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Super Street Fighter 4 tourney grand finals, Zeniside (Seth) vs. Air (Ryu)

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • March 6, 2011 at 3:57 p.m. PST
Zeniside (Seth) and Air (Ryu) had an entertaining grand finals Super Street Fighter 4 match at the Vancouver Street Battle Tournament. There is some really good play on both ends here and a lot of back and forth action.

If you're still digging SSF4, this is a good set to watch. Note: This starts off with the second set of the grands finals, hit the link below to see the first video.

Spotted on Air's blog.

Comments

Badr said on March 6, 2011 at 4:08 p.m.

ssf4
i missed you

#1
Wolfeyes187 said on March 6, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.

Wow this game looks really slow and pale now. Thx mvc3 fate of two sentinels...

#2
Banzai said on March 6, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.

true true

#3
Banzai said on March 6, 2011 at 4:14 p.m.

but im not a big fan of mvc3. im here because of sf4 :p

#4
Existent said on March 6, 2011 at 4:22 p.m.

Pale?

#5
powdertoastzman said on March 6, 2011 at 4:23 p.m.

"If you're still digging SSF4"........?????

#6
lowdojo said on March 6, 2011 at 4:23 p.m.

Who wouldn't still be digging SSFIV?!? Has anyone picked up Marvel vs Capcom 3 and actually thought it a better game?

#7
Grimmjow316 said on March 6, 2011 at 4:36 p.m.

I was rooting for the Seth but he chocked plain and simple why go for a DP when you couldn't FADC out of it bad guessing it would have been okay that first time but then he did it again come on.

#8
mavfan619 said on March 6, 2011 at 4:37 p.m.

#7 I enjoy playing both, but I wouldn't say better game, too different to compare anyway.

#9
lowdojo said on March 6, 2011 at 4:39 p.m.

#9 Enjoy playing both too, but the idea that MvC3 has come along and renders SSFIV redundant makes me laugh.

My opinion is that SSFIV is a much better game, but not looking to force that viewpoint on anyone :-)

#10
zIIGhostIIz said on March 6, 2011 at 4:51 p.m.

that seth worked his arse off in that, the ryu seemed like he was nothing special, seth deservered the win imo

i miss playing SSFIV becuase of the pure mind games, u dont get that very often in MvC3, and that seth completly mindf*cked him haha :P

#11
snoooootch said on March 6, 2011 at 4:51 p.m.

Same here, Lowdojo. SSF4 is amazing.

AND as for the matches... Zeni is my favorite Seth player, and I'm proud of that boy.

#12
The_Rock said on March 6, 2011 at 4:54 p.m.

SFIV and MvC both suck, hard.

#13
J said on March 6, 2011 at 5:07 p.m.

Crossup tatsu unblockable in Canada, lol.

#14
Pig_Red said on March 6, 2011 at 5:24 p.m.

SF4 is officially the Kunta Kinte of Capcom fighters. Now that MvC3 is out, they fanboys have their whips out and they're waiting in line to give SF4 a good lashing.

#15
Gorav said on March 6, 2011 at 6:09 p.m.

SSF4 I think is better MvC3 is all about getting that one hit in at high levels for mvc. Really I like SSF4 better because if i win in it its nice if I lose I understand and move on, but in mvc if I win I just feel like I got lucky when I lose I really wanna stop playing.

#16
lowdojo said on March 6, 2011 at 6:38 p.m.

Agree with what everyone's generally saying about MvC3. Also, I find viewing the matches boring for some reason. When I watch SSFIV matches I'm entertained by the mind games and I get the feeling I learn something a lot of the time whereas MvC3 is just a visual blitz.

Haven't bothered watching the new Gootecks/Mike Ross "Adventures" vids for the same reason yet (despite really enjoying their SSFIV stuff).

While I hope MvC3 is a success for Capcom I pray it's not so successful that they ignore "traditional" Street Fighter moving forward.

#17
BADerRules said on March 6, 2011 at 6:59 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#18
Balloon said on March 6, 2011 at 7:09 p.m.

@ zIIGhostIIz: Kinda agreed, that Seth was making plays left and right, while Ryu was almost just guessing and throwing out randoms/psychics.

No disrespect to either though, because they were both really good. I just feel that Seth should've won.

#19
VileEighty said on March 6, 2011 at 7:22 p.m.

@11 yeah. iirc ive seen air's ryu before and he plays a mean, aggressive pressure game. zeni just got into his head...

#20
spotlesseden said on March 6, 2011 at 7:23 p.m.

" While I hope MvC3 is a success for Capcom I pray it's not so successful that they ignore "traditional" Street Fighter moving forward. "

don't worry SF will always be more popular than MVC or other vs games. Alot of countries don't even care about mvc2 or 3.

#21
Endgame said on March 6, 2011 at 7:26 p.m.

Too much hate. I guess that anyone that likes both games has no need to say anything.

#22
HukGuay said on March 6, 2011 at 7:57 p.m.

mvc3 is only big in US. Rest of the world ain't into to it. You hear news of Japanese top players going to play mvc3 however, you still haven't heard a single word from them in months. No tournaments and no arcade machine setup.

#23
Poe22222 said on March 6, 2011 at 8:04 p.m.

I can see why people are saying Zeniside should have won. He did have a lot of impressive moments, whereas Air mostly capitalized on punishes with combos for huge damage on the glass-jawed Seth to go along with the occasional crouching forward into EX fireball. That said, you gotta give Air a lot of credit for hanging in there, not freaking out after the perfects, and coming through with some really clutch comebacks and close finishes to win the tournament.

Really fun set to watch.

#24
Suppi said on March 6, 2011 at 8:06 p.m.

@23

theyre locked up with the game in their secret underground laboratory guarded by camouflaged gundams.

#25
jhayze said on March 6, 2011 at 8:20 p.m.

i bought MVC3 and am still disappointed about this game!
it can never beat SSF4 how it brought back the fighting genre!

#26
Endgame said on March 6, 2011 at 8:25 p.m.

#23 It has been less than a month since the game came out.

Though yeah, there is a reason the game out in the U.S first.

#27
JIHADJOE said on March 6, 2011 at 8:35 p.m.

@26
It's kinda hard to bring back the fighting genre unless it was dead (or dying) when your game comes out.

The next big achievement will be to the upcoming game that kills it off =)

#28
jhayze said on March 6, 2011 at 8:51 p.m.

@28
TRUE!
but so far for now... im still currently playing more SSF4 than MVC3 ...cuz MVC3 is still having a lil' bit of problem playing online (specially on PSN), game and characters are still not balanced, im not to hype bias about its new gameplay mechanics and systems, so little roster (got to expect for DLC which u have to wait and pay), fun fundamental is not here compare back to MVC2, and many more! ...idk but it might just be me but i find this game so incomplete and rushed just for marketing sales or whatsoever! so i'll rather play SSF4 more than MVC3 any other day unless MVC3 get its respect like it should be !

#29
Artisaban9 said on March 6, 2011 at 9:20 p.m.

i fought zeniside once in jays stream with my makoto. i actually won the first round- then i got destroyed, mercilessly. i then became nauseous for the 3 hours after. just wanted to share that story.

#30
crispylinks77 said on March 6, 2011 at 9:29 p.m.

Majority of people that complains about MVC3 probably is not good at the game. SFIV was catered to being defensive and easy to play, that's why it's so appealing. This is the same as to why 3S fans don't like SFIV too, it's too easy and makes bad players think they are good.

Even when Blazblue first came out, I showed it to over 10 friends who are die hard fighting game fans. But all but 2 of them gave up within a week and said the game sucks. I asked them what they truthfully thought and they honestly said, "It's TOO HARD!"

#31
crispylinks77 said on March 6, 2011 at 9:30 p.m.

In my opinion, MVC3 sucks for a different reason... spectator mode.

#32
Hitstick said on March 6, 2011 at 10:38 p.m.

@crispylinks...I agree that SF4 is a DEFENSIVE game but i don't agree with it being easy to play. Because one the LINKS make it hard and utilizing the focus/FADC properly is always challenging for new players. Lets not forget about tech throwing. The gameplay is easier in mvc3; combos, specials, supers, and whoever hits first and continues combos the best wins.

I however like both games.

#33
mavfan619 said on March 6, 2011 at 11:05 p.m.

The thing is SSF4 and MvC3 (obviously) are meant to be apples and oranges yeah they're both fights but you have to drop what you know of each game to play either one. Enjoy both, or enjoy one or the other (or neither.) Shart happens.

#34
gtfopanda said on March 7, 2011 at 12:34 a.m.

If I wanted to see a random Ryu winning with wakeup/reversal DPs and jump mp into Ultra I would've logged onto XBL.

#35
Nei said on March 7, 2011 at 2 a.m.

@Crispylinks
Finally someone said it...

SSF4 is easy and even bad players can get wins with the huge input window, leciency and ultra system. THe combos are braindead easy, if you can't link well then you suck. Crouch tech is btw not hard... lol.

MVC3 has some easy combos but the rewarding combos that give a lot of meter can be a lot harder than most combos you got in SSF4. The fact that mistakes are heavily punished makes is something that can show the huge difference in skill between players. You got to know how to block well because of the high dmg, something similar to older games.

IMO both games sort of suck...

#36
Grimmjow316 said on March 7, 2011 at 2:15 a.m.

@36 people have been saying it since Vanilla probably main reason 3s online is being brought in to shut them up if they tweek that game though it might go the direction of HD remix... where barely people play it.

#37
bananainsaneface said on March 7, 2011 at 2:24 a.m.

If you think Air took this because of Ryu think again. I've seen this Seth player on the peaceful Jay stream and he murders Ryu players I've seen him destroy Alex Valle on there before. Air won because he's damn good.

#38
jhendrix said on March 7, 2011 at 2:42 a.m.

in the end like it or not street fighter will always be capcoms biggest game more people will play it all over the world what ever version is out there at the time.. mvc3 is a great game just like there is other great fighting games out there but for most ppl in mvc there is just too much happenin on the screen, for me i like 1 on 1 matchups and i think that appeals to the majority of the community,whether sf is a better game than mvc or any other fightin game, is really just down to matter of opinion so who cares lets just enjoy that fighting games r making there way into our lives again, peace out

#39
Youone said on March 7, 2011 at 3:32 a.m.

I like how no one is talking about this match.

#40
Stompnik said on March 7, 2011 at 3:58 a.m.

No offense to anyone but me and my friends hate MvC as well and i'm sad that it took over Eventhubs for such a long time :(

#41
tegstar said on March 7, 2011 at 4:27 a.m.

@ 16 yeah I agree to that, and honestly I suck with SSFIV but on the other hand combos are easier to do with MvC3 I just wish SSFIV was like that :(

#42
irrenmann said on March 7, 2011 at 4:59 a.m.

I'm still very interested in SF news, but maybe not so much if all the news stories are going to be accompanied by little passive-aggressive comments implying it's strange for me to be.

#43
ElectricBlanka said on March 7, 2011 at 5:50 a.m.

I think all our opinions are stupid are fall on deaf ears in the end so why bother, enjoy what you like and stfu.

#44
Mune said on March 7, 2011 at 7:06 a.m.

Air had an impressive Ryu, as always. Love seeing his methodical play style and an answer for every situation.

MvC3 and SSF4 shouldn't even be compared, really. Two different types of fighters, and we don't know where MvC3 will be going. I can agree with the sentiment that the game is cheap (easy combos + x-factor), but I'll also give it a chance until I know for sure that's all there is to the game.

#45
Raven said on March 7, 2011 at 7:25 a.m.

Whew, good match!

I have to say, Seth is an amazing character to watch at high level, so entertaining, his rush down and mix-ups rock.

The difference in playstyles is that Zen was going for combos, resets, and mix-ups. Air obviously prefers a classical zoning type game and as such, it's drab and dull (but effective). There was a lot going on in Air's mind and his reactions were spot on. Also, lol at 5:55, Seth rapes Ryu and doesn't afraid of anything.

#46
darkspirit138 said on March 7, 2011 at 7:53 a.m.

Those Jumping Fierce punches by Zeniside were really good.

#47
sgb said on March 7, 2011 at 8:48 a.m.

Good matches. Just one too many random DPs by Seth though.

And can we start getting bans for people who turn every SSF4 thread into MvC3 vs SSF4? If you like Marvel, good for you. There are other threads and forums for you if you'd like to talk more about that.

#48
zarakisan said on March 7, 2011 at 9:20 a.m.

Epic match!!! good job both players

#49
Rave_Zero said on March 7, 2011 at 11:33 a.m.

This is definitely one of the best Seth players worldwide, only his "triggerhappyness" cost him the match.

I wonder how much this matchup, will turn into Ryus favor in SSF4:AE, because Seth has lost his back jump hard punch.

#50
THawk said on March 7, 2011 at 1:49 p.m.

Zeni isn't bad... Poongko has a much more entertaining and scary Seth though.

#51
TheFragile said on March 7, 2011 at 2:13 p.m.

agree with #50. If he didn't try to do those few psychic uppercuts and other bad reads, then he had it. heartbreaking, but definitely one of the best matches i've ever seen.

#52
xRELLIKx said on March 7, 2011 at 6:48 p.m.

all on a frikkin pad!!!! :O

#53
Dr_Robotnik said on March 7, 2011 at 7:06 p.m.

...this was the greatest match I've ever seen. if zeniside didn't try to shoryuken air so much, he would've won.

#54


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