Also, it's worth checking out the changes and hitbox alterations made that were listed by the Japanese SSF4 AE development team here, that were posted a ways back, if you haven't looked over them before.
First! Looks like I might go back to Makoto for a little. Chun-li & Ibuki didn't change much, so I'm glad
If I am to learn anything regarding AE, this is it. Besides, I'm doing good with Oni at a D+. Still need practice.
Gotta love ibuki! and she could combo off her st mk before so thats not a change as far as i can see.
@6 i was thinking the same damn thing lol.
anyway, i think it's some real BS that viper ot like... no changes. they need to make this damn character punishable on her burnin kick or something... it's annoying as hell to fight her due to not being able to punish anything outside of her jumping lightning hand.
@shadow050
It's complaints like yours that probably got half the characters nerfed in AE that didn't need to be nerfed.
I simply cannot believe you'd want them to nerf Viper after everything that's been done to the game.
Wow can you really tell the diff between a c rank and an s rank character when ur using rose, the twins have tons of combos and tons of ways to connect their ultras and rose with no reversal and 2 sub par ultras it makes me wonder why she got snubbed in development. Well at least good for makoto! It's always great watching a good makoto user in action. Viper too. It also feels like there are a lot less juri players out there too, am I imaging things?
I do not main Rose but her Ultra 2 nerf seems totally unnecessary
@shadow050
please listen to flawlessMatador.
Then go try playing viper yourself. She's a real character
Is that everything Juri got ? Aww, c'mon Capcom, she was bottom tier in SSF4, and is even less viable in AE because of the twins. Give her some invincibility on Pinwheel Kick so it can make a decent reversal (à la shoryuken) and a better frame advantage on her dive kick. She'll still be nowhere near as powerful as the twins, but she'll be less of asangbag against them.
Ultra 2 nerf on rose was not at all unnecessary. The problem is that when they nerfed her ultra 2 they didn't buff her normals/wakeup options or whatever they could've done to make her decent.
A get out of jail free card isn't a solution for keeping a character balanced and ultra 2 is actually as it should be now.
Viper shouldn't be nerfed at all, Shadow, why don't you try learning the game? lol
Her burn kick is like Ryu's fireball, it must be good or the character will be garbage. Viper depends on mix-ups and cross-ups to deal damage and she's got low stamina. Just because you don't like the way a character is played doesn't mean they need to be nerfed. It means you need to step out of your comfort zone and learn to deal with it.
No one is going to mention the changes to Hosenka I see?
Did Rose get poked out of her U2?