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Free Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition balance patch coming

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • July 30, 2011 at 4:07 p.m. PDT
Free Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition balance patch coming At a EVO 2011 panel, Capcom's Yoshinori Ono announced that they've begun working on balance changes for Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition.

Capcom USA signed off on the patch and they will be testing balance changes it select locations in arcades in the future.

This will not cost any money, it'll be a free download, when it's released on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Ono wants to take his time balancing this, and according to Seth Killian it will be available in the fall or winter time.

Ono said since he's announcing this, he's asking people to please tone down all of the bad language and insults on his Twitter account.

Comments

RedRapperSux said on July 30, 2011 at 4:09 p.m.

For Arcade and Consoles right? Don't split up the communities again.

#1
Wander said on July 30, 2011 at 4:11 p.m.

For the love of all things holy, BUFF FUERTE.

#2
LordJim said on July 30, 2011 at 4:12 p.m.

Well, crap..
I hope whiners do not affect direction of changes

#3
RedRapperSux said on July 30, 2011 at 4:12 p.m.

Bring back Vanilla Gen.

#4
lEmptyl said on July 30, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.

at least its free i guess..

#5
Deikan said on July 30, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.

Please let Rufus get buffed. His AE nerfs were so unfair :).

#6
i208khonsu said on July 30, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.

PC?

#7
BisonBetterBeGoodInSSF4 said on July 30, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.

WOW! way to go. anyways 3SO is coming out in short of a month. have your SSF4, you whiners. i'll be playing a better game anyways (even if i get my ass handed to me a lot).

#8
Vandylizer said on July 30, 2011 at 4:16 p.m.

It really will be a mystery whether they try to buff some of the lower tier characters like Gen and El Fuerte - they're unique playstyles would be cool to see more off (rather than just gimmicky play you always see). It's hilarious how Dan got buffed so much and they didn't XD
But really all we need is a twin nerf, and some minor tweaks and this will be the best version of SSFIV yet.

#9
Oroku_Saki said on July 30, 2011 at 4:16 p.m.

Will it be available for both DLC AE and disc AE versions¿ I haven't played my personal disc AE version yet....I hope it's for all of them.

#10
DarkCyclone said on July 30, 2011 at 4:18 p.m.

#2

I'm more afraid of them nerfing Fuerte again actually. He was only slightly above the lower tiers in the last game, yet he got nothing but nerfs apart from some improved jabs =/

Not a good look honestly

#11
JJOR64 said on July 30, 2011 at 4:20 p.m.

You don't know how happy I am to hear this. Quick, someone tell Sabin.

#12
MeLLoW said on July 30, 2011 at 4:21 p.m.

Dudley having jab jab sweep? Make it happen. Also I find Tbolt to be utterly useless. Remove it or give Dudley a faster Kidney Blow, or increase its hit-box range. Kappa.

#13
SnakeX said on July 30, 2011 at 4:21 p.m.

Looking forward to it. :)

#14
powderedtoastman said on July 30, 2011 at 4:24 p.m.

@#1 and #10
It mentions free download for both 360 and ps3, being a patch should apply to both dlc and disc version.

Looks like they are gonna use the actual arcades to see how people view the changes before committing for the console patch. Probably best that way to see how what the community thinks of it before messing up the balance again ono getting bad mouthed on his own twitter.

#15
irrenmann said on July 30, 2011 at 4:24 p.m.

Excellent news. I hope whichever top brass over Ono's head demanded extra-strong characters added in AE has learned the lesson: most fighting gamers want fair fights.

#16
Nukka said on July 30, 2011 at 4:26 p.m.

Yes thank you so much, please all I ask is give Ryu his cr. mk back.

#17
THE_GODDAMN_MASTER said on July 30, 2011 at 4:26 p.m.

I am sorely tempted to post that Bison clip, but I'll settle for thanking CAPCOM.
I just hope they actually put some effort into it and don't just nerf you-know-who, but make some of the other characters viable.

#18
ElectricBlanka said on July 30, 2011 at 4:27 p.m.

Please I'm begging you, BUFF BLANKA'S BALLS!!!

#19
AndroidViolence said on July 30, 2011 at 4:27 p.m.

people will still complain

#20
Sektah84 said on July 30, 2011 at 4:31 p.m.

Just tone down yun/yang.

#21
logic_boi said on July 30, 2011 at 4:32 p.m.

So by "free" do they mean 5 dollars as compared to say 10 or 15??

#22
TehTy said on July 30, 2011 at 4:34 p.m.

Alright, I'm going out on a limb and say:
Small nerfs to Yun, Yang, and Fei. Probably some hit box changes, maybe a damage nerf
Gen buff
dudley Buff on hitboxes or something
Fuerte buff
Abel Buff
oni buff
Something's going to happen to seth. Not sure if it's going to be good or bad.
Small blanka buff or none at all.
Maybe a bison nerf.
Maybe a Chun nerf
Guile buff
Nothing's changing for most of the cast
Like a I said, a complete guess.

#23
TheRakeClown said on July 30, 2011 at 4:35 p.m.

#20

Too true. No matter what happens, people always find something to complain about and blame their losses on.

I have a concern, which means absolutely nothing because only the masses opinion actually matters.... so there's no point in me saying it? hah good stuff.

#24
JanTheMan said on July 30, 2011 at 4:35 p.m.

Hope Yang only gets minor nerfs... Yun needs major ones.
Anyway... BUFF EL FUERTE.

@22 Your logic fails.

#25
logic_boi said on July 30, 2011 at 4:36 p.m.

But anyways. Yes!! It's official. We won. Take that suckers. Nah nah nah... :D
But really I'm glad that since they're doing this, they're taking their time and not rushing some half-ass tweaks. I also trust what they do, they'll do it right.

#26
juanrock said on July 30, 2011 at 4:36 p.m.

YES, YES, YES!

#27
DestinyZX1 said on July 30, 2011 at 4:36 p.m.

I want a Guile buff. I play with Guile and him not getting much meter after a Sonic Boom is dumb.

#28
Legacy said on July 30, 2011 at 4:37 p.m.

Just dont bring back the age of the downback characters...
at least the rushdown aspect of AE is more entertaining than the turtle gameplay that was SUPER.

#29
Johnry said on July 30, 2011 at 4:38 p.m.

Please change Bison's U2 back to 2 x fireball motion! :)

#30
SteadiestShark said on July 30, 2011 at 4:38 p.m.

YES!

#31
Sektah84 said on July 30, 2011 at 4:40 p.m.

Show ibuki some love and buff please.

#32
Vulcan said on July 30, 2011 at 4:40 p.m.

The Yun divekick is the best part of this post.

#33
BestAlgorithm said on July 30, 2011 at 4:42 p.m.

DLC characters? I'll gladly pay for Elena and R Mika... but they should really let you try them out for free in the training mode and only buy the ones you want.

:D

#34
BestAlgorithm said on July 30, 2011 at 4:43 p.m.

Oh, and keep the game rushdown oriented.

#35
lordgootecks said on July 30, 2011 at 4:47 p.m.

give rose a divekick >_>

#36
ChunLi said on July 30, 2011 at 4:48 p.m.

#23

Besides from the newly found Infinite, Chun-Li does NOT deserve a nerf.

They gotta fix her U1, some characters fall out (I.e. Rose) in the corner. That is no bueno.

#37
GomuJonny said on July 30, 2011 at 4:49 p.m.

So have people been insulting Ono personally on his Twitter, because if so, even though I disagree with how he managed AE, that seems way out of line.

Buff Heavy Rising Jaguar. make it a proper DP.

#38
juanrock said on July 30, 2011 at 4:49 p.m.

@35
i agree with this, i just hope the s tier characters disapear in the new version, thats all im asking

#39
JinZo said on July 30, 2011 at 4:50 p.m.

EVO 2012, BIGGEST HYPE OF HYPE, STREET FIGHTER AE REBALANCED + WORLD END = ULTIMATE MEGA HYPE

#40
Keep_It_Flashy said on July 30, 2011 at 4:50 p.m.

Can someone just confirm me if this patch will also applies to PC or Capcom is just gonna let PC down once more?

#41
ibLeo said on July 30, 2011 at 4:51 p.m.

Oh Jesus, so he's doing it just to make the whiners shut up and not because he believes it needs balancing? Great.

In fairness, Yun DOES have a little too much going for him, with frame advantage on so many moves, but I'm actually gonna say they need to buff Blanka more than they need to nerf Yun. I don't play Blanka but I know someone who does and Blanka has nothing - NOTHING - in AE. Everything he does is horrible.
Honestly, it wouldn't even take that much to buff Blanka. Maybe you could make it so Blanka Ball and Rainbow Roll can be charged FORWARD, too - if you hold either direction for two seconds, just press the other direction and a button and PRESTO - special move. It'd make Blanka less boring and necessarily defensive.

#42
Grimmjow316 said on July 30, 2011 at 4:51 p.m.

Lol wow guess they hurt Ono's feelings watch they nerf the wrong stuff again.

Give me back vanilla Gief and all will be fine ;)

#43
Darcias89 said on July 30, 2011 at 4:53 p.m.

Shoto's need to be nerfed as well

#44
THE_GODDAMN_MASTER said on July 30, 2011 at 4:53 p.m.

@42: He and Svennson (or Killian) admitted the punch for the 'balance party' was spiked (i.e. it was in need of a patch).
I hope they did it just to see who'd defend god-tier characters in this day and age...

#45
LordJim said on July 30, 2011 at 4:53 p.m.

@#25
Many top players Consider Yang top, potentially better than Yun.
But I guess we gotta please the crowd that can play neither character properly, right?

#46
powderedtoastman said on July 30, 2011 at 4:55 p.m.

Hakan needs a 2 frame command grab like gief and hawk, oil dive(360+k) needs to be useful or atleast allow it to be used like viper and makotos feint canceling. One of his many command normals needs to be an overhead and/or allow him to have a legit crossover.

And thawk jab spd could use some damage love(his back throw does more LOL), still does 150 last i checked and the newer gief one gotta range increased and damage to 180.

Gief needs his exGH knockdown back, he needs to strike fear into the heart of people again...even if he still loses in the end.

#47
Rekkaken2468 said on July 30, 2011 at 4:56 p.m.

whats this, capcom releasing dlc & not charging for it? WHOA 0_0

#48
RoboBoomByYahh said on July 30, 2011 at 4:58 p.m.

I think they should put each character at their respective best and let it be just a crazy game.

#49
Teapo said on July 30, 2011 at 5 p.m.

43
ok you got him you now have no ultra 2 and get anti aired more and a worse jab spd in exchange for a health tier that was removed from the game and an ex banishing flats that has a slower mix up after wards.

How about ultra grabs that you cant jump out of after the flash? How about Bison getting an anti fireball ultra as useful as Yun, Yang, Adon, Dudely, Abel twice over, Cammy, Cody, dan, Ken, Makoto, and seth. Oh wait those would be to "unfair".

How about no moves that are punishable on hit like blanka ball, Hien, and banishing flats to name a few?

This game has real issues that are not typical whining.

#50
EmeraldFont said on July 30, 2011 at 5 p.m.

It used to be a no-brainer that things like balance patches would be free. It's kind of sad that new-age Capcom has to go out of their way to specify that something as basic as a balance patch will be free of charge.

Are they trying to appear generous? lol. I guess Capcom needs all the good PR they can get at this point.

#51
TannerRob said on July 30, 2011 at 5 p.m.

@46 Is that why J-Wong dropped Yang for Yun?

#52
Tabris said on July 30, 2011 at 5:01 p.m.

Still praying for Sakura's EX Otoshi to be an overhead, to make getting in that bit better.

#53
CoastalmixX said on July 30, 2011 at 5:02 p.m.

I really hope Ono looks to how balanced SF Koryu is for ideas on what to change.

#54
Teapo said on July 30, 2011 at 5:02 p.m.

too unfair*. Wouldn't want someone missing the point to insult my minor error

#55
LordJim said on July 30, 2011 at 5:04 p.m.

@#52
Or why he used RUFUS for all evo?
It's the same reason people play a variety of characters.
'Who I feel I can do better with'.
He got blown up when playing Yun and Yang, and went to his best character.
Yang is still Top Tier.

#56
CaRnAgE7157 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:04 p.m.

Since no one else is saying it let me, BUFF VEGA, Only good tools he had are gone and a damage nerf.... And if i hit you with U1 Knee no matter what it should connect, Tired of hitting people when they jump with the knee just to see that man miss.

#57
Rafabio said on July 30, 2011 at 5:07 p.m.

Make Guile somewhere between his Super and AE versions...

#58
XequR said on July 30, 2011 at 5:08 p.m.

too late in one month 3rd strike is coming out... bye bye sf4

#59
Grimmjow316 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:09 p.m.

I wonder what they wrote on his twitter I'm really curious now.

#60
Sencho said on July 30, 2011 at 5:10 p.m.

What about the PC version of the game? I really hope the patch will come out for that too O.o'

#61
caruga said on July 30, 2011 at 5:10 p.m.

Just asked on 'ask capcom' if a PC version will get it, hopefully will get an answer. Good thing I bought retail so I can sell it on if necessary.

#62
Anton said on July 30, 2011 at 5:12 p.m.

Please give Rose a little something; like simply fixing her ex soul spiral to have the properties it is meant to have.

#63
Kogia said on July 30, 2011 at 5:14 p.m.

I'm an anti-nerfer in general, so please Capcom FOCUS ON BUFFS more than nerfs. AE brought in far too many unneccessary nerfs on almost every character.

Prioritise characters who are constantly low tier (as you successfully did with Makoto), like El Fuerte, Gen, Hakan, etc. Making all characters more viable will be good for everyone for so many reasons.

Dare I say it even reverse some of the strange nerfs you rolled out with AE on characters that really didn't deserve them (eg. Abel, Vega).

Then and only then, maybe, possibly look at slightly toning down Yun, Yang and Fei Long, if they really still need it.

#64
Matt said on July 30, 2011 at 5:14 p.m.

Gouken could use a few simple changes.

Gouken flip kick - Needs to be an over-head like it used to be.

Goukens dash punch - Needs to be a lot faster, startup wise and movement speed. The light punch version needs to be able to land off a simple hit confirm. Crouching light punch x 2 into light punch palm, or something of that nature.

Kongo - return it to how it was in super.

#65
NyuBomber said on July 30, 2011 at 5:15 p.m.

@60: It doesn't take much to guess what twits on Twitter might throw towards Capcom's foremost developer.

#66
MeLLoW said on July 30, 2011 at 5:15 p.m.

Ibuki needing buffs? Gtfo.

#67
Nukka said on July 30, 2011 at 5:16 p.m.

@59

Hahah 3rd strike is dead, I would be surprised if the sales are even high. I don't see how it attracts casual gamers at all. Only people that are gonna play it are hardcore SF players and people who are nostalgic with it.

#68
caruga said on July 30, 2011 at 5:18 p.m.

I like some of the aspects of AE, a lot of spam moves were taken out, characters have to think more and play more footsies. I hope they don't simply revert back to Super when getting rid of the imbalances.

#69
Grimmjow316 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:21 p.m.

@66 Hopefully they avoided any reference towards the disasters people do like to pull of some 4chan type sh!t.

#70
JanTheMan said on July 30, 2011 at 5:22 p.m.

@59
Lol 3rd Strike already came out for me.
Maybe for you (?) and other people who haven't played it before.

#71
BlassKain17 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:23 p.m.

LOL Ono telling people to stop their hate for him , well it's nice they're coming out with a balance patch. I just ask for a slight hakan buff and of course the twin nerf.

#72
Grimmjow316 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:25 p.m.

As long as they get the input from the right players please avoid your own website Capcom Unity those forums are painful. also avoid front page of EH & SRK.

#73
SsjBizzle said on July 30, 2011 at 5:31 p.m.

''Ono said since he's announcing this, he's asking people to please tone down all of the bad language and insults on his Twitter account.''

Wow, people can STILL fcking surprise me. 99% of the changes everyone wants would be a terrrrrrible end decision, stop insulting/attacking this guy, hes like the best dev. ive seen so far by far.

#74
Taxattack123 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:33 p.m.

Buffs for Mr.Hawk, please! Faster activation and recovery on condor spires, Tomahawk have a better hitbox and maybe make the condor dive less easy to punish on block, increase walking speed and make both dashes viable. The forward dash faster and able to go farther, same with the backdash. Atleast make Hawk's jab spd do equal damage to Giefs if it can't even go as far. Maybe make his all his spd's do A LITTLE more damage because Hawk can't get back in after spd as easily as Zangief can. Maybe some of these buffs are OP, but I want some T.Hawk love in this patch.

#75
RunningWild said on July 30, 2011 at 5:33 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#76
Lemres said on July 30, 2011 at 5:33 p.m.
#77
Taxattack123 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:34 p.m.

I'm not mad really, for some reason changes to characters and giving them nerfes and buffs don't really bother me, but I would like for them to make T.Hawk a little stronger, though they would probably have better ideas to buff him than I would.

#78
powderedtoastman said on July 30, 2011 at 5:34 p.m.

@#73
Dude!!! you know what i miss most about gief, was a usable running grab. Sf2 days C.MK into running grab trap put the fear of god into people. I like how it worked in mvc1 and alpha 3 also. And not to forget hugo running grab in 3s. All useful for my playstyle. The damn one in sf4 series is too much of a give away to even think about using. Putting up the arms in slow motion then SLOWLY charging forwards makes me sick.

#79
BeUnbound said on July 30, 2011 at 5:34 p.m.

Im really excited. A lot of top tier players hate this game. And that does not affect me much since I still enjoy this game but when I tune into streams and such and see players play and dislike every part of it, it's boring.

In general players already don't like the game a lot but at least in super not every conversation was about the s tier or making corny remarks about Super street Yun fighter four: fei long edition etc. Let's get back to some of the hype that super brought and try to enjoy it all. That's what I hope this re-balance brings.

#80
DomDaDude said on July 30, 2011 at 5:35 p.m.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

#81
Ghier99 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:35 p.m.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease once again. Capcom is just another company that only cares about the crybabies. With Yun and Yang rendered unplayable, just refund my money for this awful expansion and change the title to "Super Street Fighter 4: Crybaby Edition". Evil Ryu and Oni are a joke that no one even plays.

#82
logic_boi said on July 30, 2011 at 5:35 p.m.

Also agree with 38.. well except his Adon buff. It's fine to be upset with whether you liked the game or not, but to constantly bad mouth Ono is crossing the line.

#83
Grimmjow316 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:37 p.m.

@Powdered it also needs a cancel to further add mind games.

#84
StellarSTLR said on July 30, 2011 at 5:39 p.m.

I am confident that the people at Capcom will do there best to make the game as balanced as it can be. Looking forward to it.

#85
lynx_ID said on July 30, 2011 at 5:39 p.m.

Well just nerf fei and yun and some buffs to vega and I will be ok, of course... dont nerf this time el fuerte and give real buffs to hakan and t.hawk, and please dont try to buff ken, zangief, chun, bisoon, balrog, akuma or sagat, they are fine now we dont want s tiers again.

Im playing with guile and honda and I see they are very good still, no need of buffs (well guile ultra 2 damage only)just people are too lazy and want easy high turtle damage

#86
Freyzii said on July 30, 2011 at 5:40 p.m.

Capcom? Giving away a FREE balance patch!? Capcom is losing their minds guys.

No but seriously this is really nice of Capcom, they easily realize that they can't charge for a THIRD balance update.

#87
Suppi said on July 30, 2011 at 5:41 p.m.

give cammy her t.k dive kick back please.

#88
Taxattack123 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:43 p.m.

I hate complaining to game developers, I'm sure they'll do a good job.

#89
mcfizzle said on July 30, 2011 at 5:43 p.m.

@ 82 Yeah that post doesn't sound like a cry baby at all.

@ 59 You are in for a rude awakening when 3rd Strike drops. Please see SF2:HD Remix.

#90
Darcias89 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:43 p.m.

Ibuki needs to be Nurfed big time

#91
DashXero said on July 30, 2011 at 5:44 p.m.

@77
Ibuki and Kuma?! What the heck?!

#92
Darcias89 said on July 30, 2011 at 5:44 p.m.

EDIT: Ibuki needs to be buffed

#93
NEWkidCJ said on July 30, 2011 at 5:44 p.m.

CAPCOM.

#94
mcfizzle said on July 30, 2011 at 5:44 p.m.

Respect to Capcom for doing the right thing. However the complaints will never stop. Everyone wants their main to be the best.

#95
powderedtoastman said on July 30, 2011 at 5:46 p.m.

@grimm
Na man i wouldnt want gief to go overboard even tho ive used him since i was young in the old school sf days. Would rather hakan have a more define role with that. Him being the cancel grappler, he can cancel his ex oils/dashes/oil dives would make sense for his oily ass to be able to do that not gief. Gief just needs to be able to terrorize people on wake up again.

#96
keyzerjose said on July 30, 2011 at 5:46 p.m.

Im cool with it, I prefer zoning. Hopefully they get it just the right mix

#97
lynx_ID said on July 30, 2011 at 5:46 p.m.

@Ghier99:

you must suck in this game, go and play with ciber akuma on marvel vs street fighter so you can feel better.

@capcom:

Can we get more stages too? (I really dont believe)

#98
aridarron said on July 30, 2011 at 5:49 p.m.

@79 good point about gief running grab, what's the point of a move if it's not used by players? that's when you know it needs tweaking, same goes for dudley's tunderbolt.

I would really like guile to get some more target combos along with some others, the projectile wars get boring sometimes.

#99
capcomdointhingsright said on July 30, 2011 at 5:53 p.m.

Perfect!

Shoutouts to Fireinthehole, ssf4yunedition, Hav, Flawless matador, lord jim, hell the entire Yun/Yang/Fei Dickriding army, I've heard MK vs Dc Universe is a pretty broken POS game, why don't y'all fuk off and play that?
XD

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