You can also check out the character changes that were posted by the Japanese SSF4 AE development team here.
man vega's worst match up is street fighter 4 period smh. guy gets no breaks lol
Vega's damage nerfs:
cr.MP from 70 to 60
cr.HK from 110 to 90
Vega's cr.MK still does 70 damage. A lot of people just take the change notes word for word, but don't even bother trying to see if it's all true.
He also neglected to mention that the startup for Vega's cr.MK went from 8 frames to 6 frames.
@4
He neglected a lot of things. He forgot to mention that Bison's c.LK has a different hitbox now that makes him easier to get hit when using it and Guy's c.LK is 3 frame start-up now instead of 4 frames.
Overall though, I'd say he DID nail some of the more important changes with each character.
@ #5
Yeah, but he could've at least included Vega's most important buff. I think the faster cr.MK is more important than the increased frame advantage after EX RCF.
he said Fei Longs ex chicken wing is no longer projectile invincible... Isn't it still projectile invincible? Fei lost the invincible start-up on his Hk. Chicken wing
@jinzo
f.hk now puts the opponent into jp1 state instead of jp2, this means ex cu will hit FULL. you're also able to combo mk / hk ruffian and f.mp after it [tight timing tho]. as anti air even ultra 1 or another f.hk.
he should have just said "c.lk 4 => 3 frames" not "it's a better poking tool" lol
#11 elkalam !!!!
when will you make hakan videos for AE?
You are the best hakan player weve ever seen bro. keep up the gd work and please don't tell me you dropped the character in AE!!!!! you and wildcat were the only godlike hakan players. wildcat dropped it, pelase don't do it
U know i dont really care who's nerfed or buffed..i just look at it as a challenge,,to learn something different that works in this version wit ur fav character..I use cammy and ADON!!!loland i gotta say im starting to get use to the flow of the game changes,,im good ..ill keep fighting...now checkout this sweet combo guide wit cammy..its so bogus:)http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=iNzR_G52YnQ
the main buf vega has is his cr.Mk is faster and now he can combo after an ex rolling crystal flash with a ligh or med punch. he still sucks tho. only thing vega needed was a better anti air on ex. that it.
CAPCOM! i want my money back! where the heck is that patch?! still can't even play and it's been nearly a week already!
Guy's st. MP has much better range now and his cr. LK is wayyy better.
@JanTheMan
His Ultra 2 needed mad nerfs to damage. It was ridiculous how much of a comeback move it was considering he has a really good okizeme game and mixups with his run cancels.
I'm not crying about it but it was a bit ridiculous given that he's hard to read anyway. Hell I still can't punish his body slams despite losing the invincibility lol.
@20
The thing is, I don't use U2. The big thing that impacted me is the leg throw nerf. Hey, why not nerf his escape move... that way he can't escape corner pressures...
@21
I just want projectile invincibility with his EX Q-bomb (you know, the move that no one uses -_-)
A scene from Capcom R&D:
"Hey, guys! We have a character whose speed and moveset has never allowed him to be worse than mid-tier, until the SF4 series, where we decided it was a great idea to make Claw weak as hell and significantly slower than he's ever been. What should we do with him in AE? Some people would appreciate it if he was better than Dan."
"Nerf him. He's been historically too good."
"But he's terrible now, if we nerf him the only people who will play him are Tatsu and Noel Brown."
"Good, that's just how I wanted it."
"You can't be serious!"
"It's my revenge for when he attacked me in the shower, so back off before I kick you in the eye."
'Y-yes ma'am!!"
Vega part: LOL?
Seriously, his c.MK is MUCH fater and it's far more easier to combo it with c.MP which can be followed up by an EX Barcelona.
Cosmic Heel nerf on block? Yeah, only on very close range, and people who wants to use it on close range definitly don't have an idea how to play Vega.
U2 changed because c.MK -> U2 is a possible 1 frame combo and while c.MK went 2 frames faster, they had to make the U2 2 frames slower to not make an overpowered combo (1 normal ultra setup from pretty high range).
The video didn't mentioned the jumpin HP, close range HP cancel into EX (or normal!) rolling crystal flash which can be followed up by a c.MP and an EX barcelaona -> izuna drop after that. So mainly Vega can do an inredibly high damage combo with only 1 or (if you want the rolling crystal flash to connect for sure) 2 EX bars.
Yeah Vega got totally nerfed :(.
@#24
Yea the C. mk starts up a bit faster but the +frames on hit didnt change so linking c. mp after into ex dive didnt change.I dont really feel much of a change in getting the combo off compared to super just easier to try and create a blockstring with it... and try to have c mk link from a CH c. mk then into c mp to dive.
If thats the reason why U2 was nerfed, its pretty dumb. I dont see any other way of comboing into any ultras reliably without focus attacks. Plenty of other characters are able to combo into ultras from normals without having to fadc >:(
And linking into U2 was only possible if the C. mk was a counter hit or meaty wasnt it? being C. mk is +5 and U2 was like 6f start up or something.
Dont see how that would be a overpowered combo. Sheesh even cody could link into his U2 off f+mp for more damage than vega would.
Oh and that combo you mention using 2 meters is not really an improvement on his 1 meter combo of jump HP, close HP, C MP, ex dive(which i find easier to land). The scaling on the combo you mentioned takes off too much of the izuna drop for the cost of 1 extra meter.
lol vega getting butchered for no reason, was it so much to have 1 semi reliable ultra. It was a decent anti air seeing how they refuse to do much with his scarlet terror.
Nerfing Vega and El Fuerte screams bigotry against people that wear masks.
@9
Yeah Fei Long's ex chicken wing is still as projectile invincible as it used to be. HK CW lost all of its though.
There was a rumor that his EX Rekka was projectile invincible. Let me assure you, this is not the case :)
I appreciate the guy making these videos, but he forgets things and says inaccurate things from time to time.
A big change with Cody is he has a 3 frame low short.
Woo! Vega's in this one!