Tip from Johnhasasmaill*****.
now we have one ultra for punishes. and one purely for combos, not both. Doesn't bother me too much
Not really nerf imo. His ultra chipped a lot and is often used for the chip win, not for its damage when it hit confirmed. Plus the fact you can't escape from it from wake up due to his invincibility and vertical range of the ultra made it OP.
lol at the people saying it was cheap, it was fine. People ALWAYS over exaggerate the chip it does, it doesn't do that much. Not being able to escape a tiny amount of chip isn't really broken, its just frustrating because you know your dead and most characters can't do anything about it.
I don't even play Seth and I know that this nerf was just pointless. Really not a well thought out nerf at all....Scrubs are mostly the ones who complained about this ultra in SSF4.
It still will be decent in combos, so it's fine, but again rather pointless. A lot of my friends that used seth used ultra 1 anyways, but they nerfed that like crazy too. They really messed too much with Seth.
hahaha poor seth, both of his ultras got nerfed. Took away his arms, and messed with his air stomps hit boxes LOL. Looks like seth is the new Gen.
#9:
The only one overexaggerating here is you. It may be kinda rare but U2 sets up some inescapable chip kills which is obviously not what it was intended for if they changed it. You're just calling everything pointless without any basis even though there is clearly a point to it.
I think all the nerfs are fine when you figure in he has more stamina and stun stamina in AE.
Wow, a move with 88 frames of invincibility that is inescapable at close range and does good chip got nerfed? No way! Reset > Ultra 2 was > than the last 15% of your life bar in SSF4.
Serious nerfage... looks like Seth isn't gonna be as usefula s he was in SSF4.
@#12
Lol ive seen rufus, guiles, sometimes chun li and others set up for ultra chip kills. Of course this video is about seth, but to make him seem like the only perpetrator is messed up.
@#13
lol hes gotten about 50 more health and Akuma still has more health than he does. that stun boost was much greater but its still low. I wouldnt call that a good counter balance seeing how he wasnt that powerful to begin with. Granted that U2 had too much invincibility, but to nerfed to where it probably wont beat out anything else is messed up.
@#14
i wanna see proof if it taking out 15% life bar on chip alone. ive even see zangief live thru the chip with about 5-7% life left and just U1 seth right after. A beautiful sight i may add seeing how im a gief user myself. And why would you reset to do ultra 2 when you could just simply combo into it instead, sounds like they just wanted to piss off players by chip damage.
all n all seth was a solid character, not too strong..not too weak. And they decide to put the sledge hammer to him lol. Ultra 1 doesnt counter fireballers really anymore(he gets hit now and it stops), what is it purpose then if U2 was supposed to be for combing purposes?
Why would you reset to Ultra 2? When you land a move that resets instead of a combo like an air-to-air. You get one of those and you know that Ultra 2 is going to kill, you have guaranteed that you won the match.
this is a big slap to my face since im a seth player!
i have no problems when they removed his nj.fp but this is a different story now!
btw there are some characters who can escape his ultra2 when it comes to cheap damage win,,, ryu = ex.dp , akuma,bison,dhalsim,seth = teleport , i think 'SOME' of the characters who has an ex.dp can escape .
#9:
Wow you're talking out of your ass. Seth's ultra 2 chip does the same damage as a standing fp. What's considered a lot of chipping damage to you? A quarter of your health bar? May I remind you there's no way to escape out of it from wake up (even trying to counter his ultra with your own ultra). I tried EVERY counter projectile ultras in the game and it DOES NOT hit Seth even if you use your ultra right after he uses his. In fact, you'll get hit instead. The only person who doesn't get hit is Ken. Ken won't get hit but seth won't get hit either. Ken will hurricane kick right next to seth. So yea tell me if this ultra needs to nerfed? I say so. Tell me a way or ways you can COUNTER his ultra 2 if you think only scrubs are complaining.
#22:
The only way you can escape seth U2 with ex dp is if seth is right next to you. You'll ex dp over seth and land behind him. However if you're a consistent seth player who selects U2, this person will know to stand a little further away just so ex dp with escape knowing his opponent land on his ultra afterwards.
Your statement about characters with teleport can escape out of it...it's a no brainer. That's 4 out of how many characters? 36?
John is advocating even more nerfs..what a surprise. If you end up in a position where that can chip you to death, either you're zangief or you obviously played the match wrong. Seth has so many solid attack options there's barely any way that any decent player is going to rely on chipping you to death unless it's just to annoy you.
"Scrubs are mostly the ones who complained about this ultra in SSF4."
Scrubs are mostly the reason all of these nerfs happened.Next version if they nerf even more should just be titled "learn to play edition"
Good, and saying this as someone who uses him from time to time. Had no problem with the damage, but it was pretty much a 'get out of jail free card' with that total invulnerability. There was really no reason to consider U1, as U2 was always more useful in any situation. It's back to U1 if you want a counter ultra, while U2 is for agressive players.
Wow, then what are its invincibility properties now?? That was very surprising about the Seth U2
More misinformation from Eventscrubs. The reason this works is NOT because os Seths Ultra nerf, its because Big Bang Typhoon has complete projectile invincibility FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION. At least try to level up please.
I found his ultra 2 crappy as hell. People used it for chip and for wake up options as well. You couldn't even run away because it beat out most specials, supers and ultras. Now people maining seth will have to use it for AAs or ending combos with it. Im glad.
Get real, of course his ultra 2 was gonna get nerfed, if you couldn't counter ultra with any character against seths ultra 2, then your high on the fake s#!t. I can see alot of seth mainers using that crappy ultra 2 for easy wins. Thats sad. Oh well to bad.
Ridiculous. It's like Seth isn't allowed to have one good thing about him. I wouldn't mind a single nerf he's gotten if he had the same health as at least Ryu. But seriously, one good combo on Seth and it's over. Terrible
Why would a seth mainer use this ultra for easy wins?I mean if he sucks so badly that he HAS to use this ultra for chip how did he damage you that much in the first place?
Lol@using it as a wakeup option. People are just really bad, got bodied because the dont know what they are doing, and maybe the seth player thought they were awfful so they'd add salt to the wound.
I really don't see how any competent seth player would need to rely on this for chip. Why chip when you can actually use real damage and combo it...
Yea but i see that ultra 2 as a jail bait. Most of the times its pretty even and it could go both ways, but if they have that ultra 2 its pretty much done with close matchs. Nothing could beat that crap, but anyways its old news moving on.
seths fine. he combos into ultra from everything.