Amazing Stuff

man, Ryu plain sucks now, i'm quitting

Gen getting up there I see *strokes beard*

this is also a good chart to see how much money these players have spent playing AE.

I'm surprised to see Gouken is still so low on the rankings, considering he got a considerable amount of buffs. Glad to see Fei-Long dominating though :-D

AE sounds great. Sounds, looks, and feels overall balanced. I can dig it.

LETS GO DEE JAYYYY!

Good, ryu players qutting is very good.
Or you could always learn how to play a character that is more technical lol.

i hate ryu he should have finished off sagat

Interesting to look at all the mains switched

Good thing I picked up Guy now. Chun Li ain't looking too hot :(

Well good to see that my characters are even better with virtually no nerfs. Glad I stuck with Guy, Cody & Makoto. Heck if Bison wasn't so freaking good in SSF4 I would've still played him but it got too easy honestly. st. RH rules because scrubs don't block and love trampoline tactics meaning bam, anti airs for days.

wow I really like this, such variety!! but where the hell is makoto the vega player? xD

@ Psycho
That's what I was thinking, but if you look it says he's playing Fei long so maybe Vega got nerfed so hard he switched? :(

@ 15 oh wait I saw him now, :'(

Woot! Fransujin repping Cody and nice to see Kiryu being the best Guy.

@15 and 14

Wrong makoto guys, apparently the makoto who played Vega doesn't play AE, it was metioned on tokido's blog that he has certain family business.

I'm amazed Guy is above Chun-Li and E. Honda on the "top 3 overall" rankings O_O

Talk about a nerfing!

dam japan weres usa lol bet those japan players never had a girl in bed well maybe one lol XD and am shocked too guy is above chun li dam

makoto . aojiru guile? i wonder if that's the same guy that was a beastly boxer in vanilla sf4. also wonder if tackle maeda is maeda taison who also played boxer in vanilla. if so sad to see they both switched :(

-R- is 'ice0age R' of Xbox 360 replay fame. Unbelievable Rog skills.

Hi,

You can't use "Boxer" in one chart, and then "Balrog" in another.

Thanks :)

@8 Dude... Only Balrog is the real boxer. Dudley is a fail.

On the last list Vega (Claw) isn't listed :p

Anyway good stuff I love this type of information great insight on how people in japan are playing.

Just an observation but, Kindevu is not listed as a top 3 Seth yet is shown as number 34 on the top 50 list and having 35,057 pts.

Remember guys, just because one character is really high or low on this list doesn't necessarily mean that character is really good or really sucks now. This isn't a tier list, y'know.

@#5 nobleeskimo
the amount of buffs doesnt matter when they dont really address the problems that character have. Thawk, Gen, hakan, deejay got considerable amount of buffs and i think Hakan gotten the most. Yet they all still pretty low on every chart and Hakan is still at the bottom 2.

@#12 Shonuff
lol? Chun li is still ranked higher than guy on the recent overall chart B+, compared to guys B-. What you mean she isnt looking to hot.

@#19
Guess someone had to chime in about people getting laid or not. Lol honestly how or why does it matter, apparently they dont get stressed out about it like Americans do.

@#18 top 3 is too small of a sample size, better to go off overall. Seeing mago Fei long exceptionally high (1)with the next fei long(19) just shows there is a skill/time gap.

Do they not lose points when they take a loss? 49K points in 1202 seems like a lot.

@me :cont
Makoto was also given considerable buffs, but in proper areas and she skyrocketed near the top. Makoto and Yun 3s babies looking mighty solid on the overall raking taking top 2 spots.

@#26 snakeX
True isnt an tier list but is a very good indicator how well characters are preforming over a given time.

@#28
They do lose points, but if they lose to some random with a much lower score its not gonna take out a catastrophic amount.

I haven't followed all the updates when it comes to AE, but how the hell could they nerf Vega? Are they going to make it seriously even harder to main him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbm9Pm...

Shiit, this Ken has 66000BP!! What's happening?!

Yun is the new Sagat. Fail!

this is very very outdated. daigo is 2 now with > 55k BP...
check out versuscity.net

again, daigo and mago says USA is free and how much they love the free airtickets and free fight money.lol

@28
They do lose points on loss. The points lost/earned per match in Arcade is much bigger than on XBL/PSN though, otherwise they'd need to spend $1000s just to get to grandmaster (if they haven't already).

I wanna see Momochi's Makoto!

Whoa, Shiro Itachi started playing SF4... Here's hoping that Kuroda and RX would try it as well(yeah, I know it'll never happen <.<)

Yo Catalyst. Momochi also won SBO with Makoto in Third Strike.

Not sure you can read too much into this list as an indication of character strength; these are the best of the best players and they're going to hone whoever they pick into a force to be reckoned with. It might be a better indicator of who the most popular characters are, if the game is as balanced as people are thinking. Arcade users migrating from vanilla arcade version are probably picking up Sagat again which is why we see him well repped in this list, for example.

Also would be nice if the list used boxer/claw/dictator to avoid confusion.

Seeing that Makoto appears to be at least high tier now, it would be cool to see some footage of the new Mak in action.

Good(clapping hands...round of applause)....this goes out to the ryu player who stated that he/she is quitting...lol.

Fei God Long Tier

Then the shotos with their invincible uppercut frames.

-Im not worried about Yun.

the next level is Master Baiter...ahem! 'cause they're good at baiting the opponent to their ultimate destruction...

"679"

@2 woohoo. one less shoto scrub to deal with.

Daigo is wearing diapers at the arcades

@Johnry #32

That is vanilla SFIV.

Being an ST man I prefer zoning type characters, but this game has become like 3s, where fireballs are irrelevant, and pokes are the only viable options as far as spacing.

I've always liked yang, played him in 3s so it should be a good switch for me.

Pff, we lost Sako to the Yang/Yun bandwagon. No hope left for cammy apparently.

Just a couple things:

1. This is a list of 50 best PLAYERS, not CHARACTERS!!!! Stop looking at this like it's a tier list!

2. This is also a JAPAN list. We all know that once this hits the rest of the world, we're gonna find all the loop-holes, the cheapest and lamest and abusable tactics possible and then the whole tier list is gonna get a face-lift every 3 months...(no offence to Jap players, but we think OUTSIDE THE BOX! Face facts...We are the ones who break the game and find the best way to win with the least amount of effort and skill.)

3. Two Ryus, one Balrog and Dhalsim...barely any Akumas? this is the Scub default choice and the typical bunch you always see online. (well lots of Dictator, and Kens...but you get the point) Regardless of who the Japs use, who do we think we're fooling? We all know that the beloved "Hadoken ambassador" is gonna uppercut, FDC Ultra'ing all of us at least 3 times a day on average..

4. I don't know about you, but I don't have that kind of money on me to waste at the arcades....and if I did?!? I wouldn't be at an arcade to waste it. BUT, if I did and I choose to waste money and my time at an arcade, not to mention a sex drive....I wouldn't spend my time trying to play a new character and test drive new tweaks. So with that said, with all the buffs that some of the characters got, its understandable that they aren't being tried and tested out yet. Think, while im here trying to practice cancelling a slide into an oil up, im getting my face smashed by a Mago or a Tokido or even a Uryo, who's playing to kick butt, and rank up...not to test drive new characters, and buff tweaks.

5. I can't wait for MVC3!!

Vega is absent in "the most recent overall BP ranking" at the bottom?

@28 and people who answered him : NO, you DON'T lose any BP when you loose. But still, you gain really few if you lose against somone even way better than you, and you don't gain a lot, almost not at all, if you beat someone with way less BP than you.

cool to shiro(abel) back and also shiro tachi from 3s playing.
guys dont get tackle maeda and maeda taison confused

@41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnMoty...

Shiro Itachi steps in at about 32:17

There's more vids of Shiro Itachi's AE Makoto tearing things up in the a-cho channel. He did pretty well in the Ranbats, losing only once (afaik). MDR's Rufus didn't lose a single round!

@4 You don't actually spend a lot of money when you're winning 80%+ of the time. It's the poor people losing to these guys that are breaking the bank. lol

@41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnzkWv...

This one's even better. 21 Minutes of Shiro Itachi dominance.

so Daigo has spent appx 83$ on this game so far? 330 losses or "pays" based on 25cent games.

I guess Sako don't play AE. I don't see him name anywhere on this list or mentioned at all.

AFAIK Sako doesn't play in the arcades. The guy's a recluse, so online XBL was pretty much the only place he would be seen until someone convinced him to come out and play in some tourneys.

daigo drops 100 yen a time which is actually a $1.23.

Saka has over 31000 BP with Yang....

Sako*

I laughed that the higghest ranked Cammy is ranked 39th LOL.

i like how Daigo played about 800 more games than Mago and higher win ratio YET isnt number 1.

How sad for Dan players he is the only one were neither of them have reached A

daigo played in played in 1 month the same amount of matches as me (2200), the difference is that i took 8 months to play that.

... poor Honda... :-( ... why so nerfed?!

@ powdertoastman:

I guess the difference is...level of competition? That's the only way I can see that happening. I'm sure Daigo is playing top level competition, but their points (and as a result, his points) aren't showing it. Wonder who Mago plays against...

This world is full of copy cats. Whoever is supposedly "top tier" people jump on it.

It could be that he is still experimenting with the character you never know plus Mago has defeated him a bit so the point losses add up.

@ 68 Daigo has lost 330 times and Mago has lost 232 times, maybe that's why mago is first.

This is not tiers, but AVG win percent gives a general idea assuming these players are all similar skill.

Thats why AVG win percent would be helpful to have here.

Still no news on Maeda Taison? Is he playing the game or not?

Maeda isnt playing the last time he showed up was at godsgarden

@52 : Yes, you can lose BPs. That's why you see some Masters under the rank of 35 000. If you follow the ranking it's pretty obvious.

Yup, if you don't believe that BP drops then go read Tokido's blog. http://tokidoki77.blog138.fc2.com/blo...

Even at 20 yen ($0.24) Daigo has spent 46200 yen ($559.11) on this game so far...

^ and multiply that by 4 if its one US dollar a game... those sponsors better get their monies worth at evo.

Remember it's winner stays on.
So he's only payed for around 330 games.
Also, I heard most arcades are 100 yen but the Arcade Daigo and Mago usually play at (Safari) is 50 yen per game.

I think it funny that when some of you find out that your player is no longer THE BEST well im not playing anymore :( whaaaaaaaaa im going home and telling my mommy.... try playing someone that takes a little thinking on your part to win i dont even play ryu or ken or sagot or cammy very much and i win with them one thing ex foward down downfoward ohhh look i win yeah me im sooooo good at street fighter :) i played a 15000 point ryu the other day and he took gouken and i took my 1567 point ryu and won why one word SHORYUKEN!!!!!!!

yeah... i didn't think about that. I guess he has only payed 33,000 yen or 16,500 yen. still a lot of money on a game that wont be main at evo.

This game is shaping up to be amazing....Makoto/Yun/Yang/Fei Long/Zangief/Sagat all look to be powerhouses. Naturally it's too early for anything to be written in stone, but I think we're gonna have an excellent mixed bag of good characters.

Though if Sagat gets popular, Zangief isn't going far in tournaments. lol

MY ROSE has gone down hill after her nerf :(

Funny how only one out of the top ten players is using an 'old-school' character.
Ryu was barely affected at all, but Ken was buffed so much that the game is essentially an HD Remix of Third Strike.
Thanks, CAPCOM!

Is the Buppa playing as Gouken the same Buppa who plays Hazama in BlazBlue? I hope so. He's a very strong player.