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Out of all the level 3s, I think Zero's is the lamest. It really doesn't look like it should be his level 3 at all. All he does is one fairly boring slash. That's it. Not nearly as flashy as the other ones.
I've seen a video of his level 3 in TVC, and it was SO much cooler! Not sure why they didn't just decide to use the same one. Oh well.
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Posted by TeamEHRGEIZ on January 10, 2011 at 10:07 a.m. #3
Out of all the level 3s, I think Zero's is the lamest. It really doesn't look like it should be his level 3 at all. All he does is one fairly boring slash. That's it. Not nearly as flashy as the other ones.
I've seen a video of his level 3 in TVC, and it was SO much cooler! Not sure why they didn't just decide to use the same one. Oh well.
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Sure, it may not be "flashy", but for those who have played Megaman X5, we know the true terror behind that move. It was his "desperation attack" when he was Virus "awakened" Zero. Basically, if you didn't kill him in a certain amount of time, he would use a giant shockwave slash over and over until you died.
We don't get that luxury in MvC3, lol but for those who are true Zero fans, his new LV.3 is much more awesome than Dark Hold, considering you needed to be within pointblank range to actually pull off the move. Well, almost every Lv.3 in TvC was like that, and if Zero's Lv.3 was Dark Hold again, in THIS kind of game, it would almost never work for him in comparison to a full-screen shockwave slash. It works perfect for him in MvC3.
Well to be honest let's look at Zero's lvl 3 Hyper from TvC which was very awesome, I highly doubt that's it. In my opinion that only the non animated version since we've only seen it kill people on the first hit, I guarantee that Zero's lvl 3 has an animation.
Pretty cool to see all the current level 3s. I'm kind of glad they dropped Morrigan's level 3 in favor of that clone lvl1 hyper she has now. It seems a lot more useful.
And it seems like Wolverine's level 3 was dropped in favor of his speed up super (Or maybe Fatal Claw? Idk), but I'm kind of glad about that, too, since his level 3 was just a soupped up version of his Berserker Barrage hyper. I wouldn't have minded much if it were his Weapon X hyper from MVC2.
Overall, I like the majority of these level 3s, and I like the decision to not give every character a level 3 hyper, but still have three hyper moves for every character. On the one hand, not everyone has the big decisive finish move/big comeback move, but in my mind characters without level 3s have more versatility because they have level 1 hypers that can be used in more situations
@dmgoodr
are you serious? i love it, its not flashy but its just like her, stealthy, quick and lethal imo.
i hope hsien ko gets some cool hypers, she hasnt been in a game for a while now so they can do whatever they want with her, there can be new super moves or a level 5 if they want, i cant wait to see what are they gonna do with her
I do agree that X-23 was the cheapest. It just seems too free. It's unblockable and she can nail you before your character jumps in. Also the fact that Start up Hypers have no invincibility makes it easier to punish so you can't do like a "get way" Hyper to keep her from scoring the hit. Eh, whatever im sure there will be some answer to beating it. Just seems cheesy. I still like X-23 though.
how many characters announce "this is the finale" at the end of their level 3? -_-
@Stingah using the snapback when she is about to die with 5 hypers would be a nice strategy, I think.
@ 14
The leaked list is true. It's been right about everything and there's no reason to discredit it anymore. Hsien-ko is in the game, just like Phoenix and Haggar (which were also on the list). There's no point in arguing it anymore. Unless you're just trolling.
@ 11
I've read somewhere that you can just hyper upon entering and she would get hit. Maybe that means she can't block when in the lvl 3 hyper state. Also, people are saying that Felicia's lvl 3 is another unblockable setup like X-23's. If that's true, that's pretty awesome.
@ 22
Oh alright then. My bad. But yeah, the list has been completely spot on. So, if I remember correctly, the last four characters on the roster are:
Marvel: Taskmaster, Sentinel
Capcom: Akuma, Hsien-ko
Haha all the other fan favorites like Strider and Megaman will probably be DLC.
Tbh i dont know about any other people but i think that every character should have a level 3? they help the game be more balanced, well thats just how i see it, but with how good they look and the fact they do a nice amount of damage, i reckon each character deserves one..... with a little extra animation some examples of level 3 hypers that could be made are
Spider-man- maximum spider - more damage seeming as it already looks like a level 3?
Storm - the ice and tornado thing with more damage?
M.O.D.O.K - electrocution grab with more damage and animation?
Hulk - His gamma crush?
just my opinion.....
@ 25 thanks :) any suggestions for anymore level 3s from characters ive missed? just to get some ideas going here?
Zero's Lvl 3 isn't about flash, it's about raw, beastly power. When you get combo'd out of your mind by a Zero player then he decides to cancel his Lvl 1 into his Lvl 3. You WILL know about it and it WILL hurt
thor has a level 3 its a command grab i believe its called the mighty punish where he throws the hammer at you, seth shows it in one of the several gameplay demos he's done
zeros new level 3 is the giant blade slash if you need proof rewatch zeros trailer it shows it there or watch the capcom unity recording of the tournament from saturday marn doesn it on justin in the finals
I think Spidey deserves a level 3, and I will be quite annoyed if he doesn't get one. Especially when Dante has all those moves AND a level 3.
His damage isn't great.
His health seems quite low.
His combo potential seems very limited compared to some of the characters in that video.
C'mon, the wall crawler has been given tons of love everywhere else, he just needs that little bit more of his gameplay.
I waiting for the Hulk Thor and Spencer level 3
and I swear if Hulk's level 3 involes the HCB grab or Gamma Charge I already know it's going to do a S*** load of damage which would make sense since all his other hypers have an insanely large
CBX
We know what Zero's is, it's just very f***ing lame
and No mighty punish ISN"T his level 3 because seth said it wasn't and in all the previews it only took 1 of thor's bars
Kenshiro that kinda takes away from the glammer of the game unlike Ryu in MVC1 or Sakura in MVC2 who got alternate modes(Ryu at level 1 and Sakura at level 2 the real big difference is over 85% of the cast have level 3s and one has a level 5 to exclude a few characters, ones that are more popular currently than others that do have one, like Super Skrull ha's one but yet Hulk, Spencer(He's got a game coming out next month) AND THOR(He's got a movie coming out) don't?
I doubt any of these remaining characters have a level 3. I doubt Capcom would censor their Lv 3s, and I'm sure the Lv 3s would have otherwise been discovered by now since the most recent build demo has everyone playable.
Hulk at least doesn't need one anyway. Gamma Crush is all the power of a Lv 3 with the cost of 1.
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Posted by Hrm on January 10, 2011 at 11 a.m. #9
Pretty cool to see all the current level 3s. I'm kind of glad they dropped Morrigan's level 3 in favor of that clone lvl1 hyper she has now. It seems a lot more useful.
And it seems like Wolverine's level 3 was dropped in favor of his speed up super (Or maybe Fatal Claw? Idk), but I'm kind of glad about that, too, since his level 3 was just a soupped up version of his Berserker Barrage hyper. I wouldn't have minded much if it were his Weapon X hyper from MVC2.
Overall, I like the majority of these level 3s, and I like the decision to not give every character a level 3 hyper, but still have three hyper moves for every character. On the one hand, not everyone has the big decisive finish move/big comeback move, but in my mind characters without level 3s have more versatility because they have level 1 hypers that can be used in more situations
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Morrigan has 4 Hyper Combos, did you miss her Darkness Illusion @ 2:10?
Lv.1-Finishing Shower (Missile Barrage)
Lv.1-Astral Vision (Her "Double" Dark Force)
Lv.1-Shadow Servant (Multiple Anti-Air Shadow Blades)
Lv.3-Darkness Illusion
The hulk has a lvl 3 combo its the Gamma Crush . they have vids for it. M.O.D.O.K don't need a lvl 3 because he analyze power and make his moves stronger including supers
@45: Bro, Seth's said before that every characters is going to have just three hyper combos, and not everyone was going to have a level 3. He said something about things like everyone having airdashes/level 3 hypers/things of that nature felt too much like TvC, and he mentioned how in MVC2 only some characters had Level 3 hypers.
I'll try to look up exactly when he said it, but it was a long while back.
@45 cont from 47: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/oc...
That's not the interview with Seth, but I distinctly remember him saying something of that nature. If you look, it says that every character will have three supers.
@33
i agree with you, just because the last 4 characters on that list are semi-confirmed to be in the game, doesn't mean that they will be the last ones put on the disk. the lsit is accurate, but incomplete.
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Posted by Hrm on January 10, 2011 at 9:15 p.m. #48
@45 cont from 47: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/oc...
That's not the interview with Seth, but I distinctly remember him saying something of that nature. If you look, it says that every character will have three supers.
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I'm pretty sure they won't code a Hyper to just throw it out later, but I'm up for ideas. Let's just say IF they did...which one would they take out? As far as I can tell, Morrigan isn't Morrigan without Darkness Illusion, so it has to still be in. As far as bringing Vampire Savior into MvC3, both Felicia and Morrigan have their "Dark Force" Hyper in; Felicia has her little helper, and Morrigan has her Astral Vision. Shadow Servant is a definite, and I just can't see them just cutting Finishing Shower, as it's been shown in recent videos.
I dunno, some people may have an exception to 3 Hypers, that was the case in MvC2 as well; Wolverine (Adamantium Claws) had 4 Hypers.
@51: MVC2 didn't have a standardized number of supers like MVC3 does. Like while Adamantium Wolverine has 4 supers, characters like Juggernaut only have 1.
But like I said, I remember Seth saying they dropped Level 3s from some characters in favor of a third level 1. (God dangit I'm still looking for the interview too) And it makes sense if you look at it, since certain level 3s are functionall similar or identical to a level 1 of theirs, and replacing it with a third, functionally different level 1 would make them a more varied character. Or, in Morrigan's case, imagine it more as they replaced her level 3 with her Dark Force ability from the DS games (Which is what her Darkness Illusion super was based on, anyway, iirc). It's visually the same thing, only this way you can control Morrigan during and potentially unleash more devastating damage than what the level 3 would have been capable of.
It's not really that strange for a developer to drop something like a special move or animation during the development process (And remember that up until recently MVC3 has very much still been in development). If you watch videos of Morrigan in recent builds, she hasn't used her Level 3.
Also, imo, it'd be strange for them to have a standardized 3 hyper moves on every character except Morrigan and Wolverine.
@#6/ChunLi:
Yes, only a true Zero fan (or in my case, Mega Man X) could appreciate his lvl 3 hyper. If anything, I'm surprised they even considered that as a hyper. Most X/Zero fans probably have never seen Genmurei before (or Genmu Zero, I think that's what he actually says; Rei = Zero in Japanese supposedly).
Also, whatever happened to utility specials? Wasn't every character supposed to have one, or did they drop it?
@53: I think the "utility specials" essentially transformed into non-attack abilities performed with the exchange button. Like how originall Captain America's backflip was down and all three punches, now it's like a half circle with the exchange button. And for characters like Magneto or Iron Man, they use the exchange button with a motion to go into flight mode, But it looks like not every character has one anymore, which isn't a big deal. They had these moves in MVC2, they're just set to a special button now instead of being performed with 2 kicks or whatnot.
@ Soultrigger
You pretty much said it all lol Thanks for backing me up on that! There's alot of Zero hate going on, but few actually know what's up with Zero like we do.
@ Hrm
I guess we'll have to see what the future holds, maybe in new gameplay videos or an official report of changes, but until then, here's to both of us, and no hard feelings. ^_^
I believe you might've remembered wrong when they said "every character will have AT LEAST 3 hyper combos, but not everyone will have a level 3 hyper combo." You guys are all complaining about Morrigan being the ONLY character who has 4 hyper combos, but I think you guys are all forgetting the other characters who have 4 as well, namely Wolverine and Felicia. Although Felicia is somewhat doubtful and mostly a guess right now.
Wolverine- lvl. 1's Berserker Barrage X, Fatal Claw, and Speed Boost , lvl. 3 Weapon X
Felicia- lvl. 1's Rolling Flash, Kitty's Helper, Super Sand Splash (I have not seen this hyper combo in action so I could be wrong here), lvl. 3 Help Me!
I mean hey, I've DEFINITELY SEEN Wolverine use all 4 of his hyper combos in the latest build via streams here, (can't say the same for Felicia since no one picks her). I've also seen someone use Darkness Illusion in the latest build too (but missed).
I Dont really like x-23s level 3 personally