Tip from Elburro129.
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The other person starts with one. They're not about to make lvl 5 hyper meter at the start.
It has infinite time so I'm sure they set up their own match & put p1 at 5 bars to show off Dark Phoenix, they wouldn't let a char start out with 5 bars chill the fuk out.
Phoenix seems pretty powerful
depending on high level play and how she gets in, she can be godlike
look at seth from ssf4
lowest health, nastiest mixup game
Wow I can't believe how du,b some of you are. Of course Phoenix starts with 5 bars, because she needs them. Do u see the damage she takes, one combo and she's gone, and if she has 5 bars when she dies then she regenerates and transforms into Dark Phoenix, who looses life as time goes by. If she didn't start with 5 bars then she would eat one combo at the beginning of the fight and die without the ability to regenerate because she won't have 5 bars.
I can see some people putting Phoenix as a lead and then switching out just to take advantage of the 5 bars at the start.
Wait, can't tell if you guys are really that stupid.
They just had it start at 5 for this guy, don't be stupid. She starts with one like every one else normally.
Don't know what to make of this. First off, that gameplay is TERRIBLE. I know they're choreographed to showcase the characters, but this was BADLY done, like REALLY bad. I'm also still lost on Phoenix, she takes a LOT more damage than I was reading into with low health. It seems you can kill her with 1 combo and 1 meter with just about anyone. As for Haggar...what's with the throws whiffing on Zero? Either it's a case of embarrassing range (see: Thor) or some characters can't be grabbed (amataresu? Viewtiful joe? Arthur?). Either is bad. With all the ways to push back this needs to be fixed. Throws need more range.
Pwn_Star
Of course this wasn't choreographed, this was some scrub from G4 testing out the game against the computer. And he shouldn't be trying to grab in the first place at that range. As for phoenix she has a healing super that almost heals her to full life in a manner of seconds as long as the opponents within her sphere, she is incredibly fast with a good teleport and a decent keep away game. The projectiles have a little delay so it will complement her rush down.
She will be fine, yeah she's glass, but in the hands of a good player I can see her doing some major damage.
"Skawwwwt"
Yea...one combo and shes pretty much done for. She was almost dead from a throw and 3 jabs. I dont imagine zero does too much damage either..seth looks like gief compared to her.
Phoenix= red venom from mvc1
Good hit in= dead WOOTS but if you cant hit them then you get overwhelmed.
Uuuuh, wtf???? Phoenix has very very low defence.
I realise that the video doesn't feature great gameplay, but now I see that Pheonix isn't as cheap as I thought.
Her stamina is EXTREMELY fragile and her damage output is very low. Not only that, she seems to need all 5 super bars to revive into Dark Pheonix only to have her health slowly degenerate by itself and STILL have low stamina anyways.
To make up for it, she does seem to have plenty of options even as regular Pheonix (despite the player's poor execution) and Dark pheonix seemingly gets a damage upgrade along with making her attacks even MORE effective than they already were.
She's like the new Seth.
oh wait wait nvm she starts off with max hyper meter, nevermind.
Yeah, we definitely need more explained on these 2. Whats with the whiffs on Haggars throw on Zero and a LOT more on phoenix. Does she really start lvl 5? Im not sure she'll ever live long enough to build lvl 1 to 5 much less have a chance to use her lvl 3 heal. I can't tell if she's super good or super bad? I LOVE glass cannons, but their might be too much extremes on one end and we need more info.
I am so moved hearing Jean calling out for Scott when she falls... Her stamina is WAY too low and that's pretty unfair. I mean she has too many possibilities but a low health she barely could use them....
I am pretty excited about her though, she is one of my favorite X-MEN! Now I hope for Psylocke :D
Polaris would also be a great addition...
I still can't believe The Phoenix is on this game that was the greatest announcement for this MVC3 roster
But now that I see this i think Capcom mess up a bit balancing her to have such a weak defends she possibly could die from one combo from anyone and to start with level 5 hyper i find it kind of exaggerated
WOW
Eventhub people ARE mentally challenged. Half of you still believe she starts with 5 hyper bars in a normal game. Fckin idiots.
Wow. Even Seth could laugh at Phoenix's health. 40% from one command grab...I suppose it's not unexpected with Healing Field and Dark Phoenix, but will Healing Field even be useful on her is a single combo can kill her?
@Stider/29/27
She doesn't start with 5 bars. This is clearly a demonstration, hence infinite time and CPU opponents. If that wasn't obvious enough, the screen sand feature vid from one day ago make it clear she starts with 1 bar.
@Strider
I'm a retard? LOOK AT HER REVEAL TRAILER, SHE STARTS WITH ONE BAR.
He is fighting a cpu, they have infinite time, it is clear that he just modified the game so he could show off dark phoenix. Your an idiot, accept it.
I liked the old level 3 sound effect better. Hopefully the change won't stay.
Phoenix looks pretty cool to use. Haggar is a serious waste of space. Honestly!
She Hulk's assist on Magento looks pretty good if it lands.
Yeah, too bad that assist has crazy start up.
But it could re-set a combo if comboed into, which can lead to some crazy combos and damage. I'm thinking that with c. viper if you start the assist once you start a combo, after a thunder knuckle it might reach in time, and stun them. Therefore continuing the combo without ever having to use her EX thunder knuckle
I don't know what you guys are complaining about. Haggar was pretty far away from Zero when he did his command grab. This isn't like SFIV where you can teleport grab people like retards.
Also, Phoenix's healing is a lvl 1 not 3 (the vid was just edited to look like a 3). So I guess you would have to constantly be using the healing while attacking to gain life and build meter. I think she'll be a hard character to use. But in the right hands, she might be deadly.
@#25
"Does she really start lvl 5? Im not sure she'll ever live long enough to build lvl 1 to 5 much less have a chance to use her lvl 3 heal."
She starts at level one. Put someone else on point to build meter. Problem solved. And if her assist isn't all that great, why even risk her taking damage when out due to that terrible health?
I thought it was that she started with 5 but I think this particular build allows for adjustments. The video was made for G4 so they can demo the Dark Pheonix stuff thats why it's not that exciting, sorry if earlier I thought it was 5 bars but it's clear it's not. In the reveal build she does'nt start with 5 bars so it's coo.
She starts at lvl 1 like everyone else. It shows this in the reveal trailer.
And actually, I just thought of something. Does Phoenix's healing super disappear if she gets hit. If it's a no, then I can see some great possibilities with her. You would always cloak her in the healing super and constantly rush down with a good assist like Chunli. This way, you will always be replenishing your life. Also, if you do eat a combo, the super will probably heal you either faster or just as fast as the damage you are taking. This will make her a great point character.
This is just theory though at this point cause her healing super might end if she gets hit. Which would make my theory mute.
Wow, she has probably the worst case of Glass Cannon balance EVER. I can't wait to see people pick her up and make FULL use of everything she's got.
Plus...calling for Scott as she gets KO'd made my heart jerk a bit...damn you MvC3...I love you so much.
The level 3 sound doesn't sound as epic and kinda isn't a warnning for a level 3 hell even if they reserved it for just Dark Phoneix it would be awesome, because I can imagine it just like "I got ya when you just have level 4..*old level 3/5 sound* F***"
Anyway I think that's the test reel they used on the main show, you noticed how that Spencer just walked up at the end?
The Pheonix Force's personality is surely well captured. When she says "You may Die!" I thought that she's that much more terrifying to fight againts!
So Human Torch's flames would've taken up too much memory or whatever, but Dark Phoenix is perfectly fine. Niitsuma is truly an epic troll.
Also, holy hell, her stamina makes Felicia's and Zero's look amazing by comparison.
I wish they made it so that she could withstand 2 combos at least. Considering that 2 hits from Zero took about 25% of her life, she'll probably die from just one combo into super.
In b4 "G4 suckz no moar screensaverz"