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Seth talks Felicia in Marvel vs. Capcom 3, other stuff

Posted by Catalyst
January 4, 2011 at 3:21 a.m. PST
Seth talks Felicia in Marvel vs. Capcom 3, other stuff Capcom's Seth Killian talked a lot about Felicia in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 recently on the Unity Boards, saying that the character is a lot stronger than some people have thought after playing her in pre-release builds of the game. Here's the rundown.

Is there going to be one more Darkstalker in Marvel vs. Capcom 3?

Seth: No way you're getting that one out of me :-*

Why has Capcom made Felicia weak and have a horrible English voice actor and the lowest heath in the game?

Seth: Felicia is, in my opinion, much stronger in MvC3 than she has ever been in any game before. She might seem a bit obvious so far, but she definitely has the tools to win. Right now probably the most under-appreciated character in the game (in fairness, that's mostly by people who haven't had a chance to play much). [...]

Seth, you're talking about Felicia as though she's the most awesome, deadly, unappreciated god tier character ever is really getting out of hand. — Al

Seth: ???

I don't think I've really ever talked about Felicia in depth before, but I called her underappreciated because she is, and said she was, in my opinion, stronger in MvC3 than in any game before. That's true. I don't know how you translated that to what you've written above ("god-tier"?).

Your constant implications that those who say she's bad or simply decent are fools who don't know how to play her (which, by the way, is extremely insulting to people like me who have mained Felicia in every game she's been in so far). She is not better in this game than in all the others she's appeared in, she was vastly superior in Darkstalkers 3 and MvC2. — Al

Seth: Let's take the crazy-talk down a notch here. Not sure where you're coming from, but I didn't call anybody a fool (how can I insult someone's ability to play a character in a game that hasn't even been released?). I said that nobody that I've seen in videos or playing at the various location tests, etc. has come close to tapping her potential. That's also very true.

As for Felicia's stamina, it's below average (it's not the lowest in the game), but low stamina is true for a lot of the strongest "rush" characters in terms of health, and she has a very strong rush-down game. Beyond her movelist, there are a lot of features of the MvC3 engine that she is particularly good at exploiting. I won't be able to describe her extremely fast high/low mixups in a convincing way, but here's a few other Felicia fun-facts that make her strong:

1) Being able to OTG the opponent without the use of an assist is a very valuable ability in MvC3, and Felicia's Down-Toward + Medium Attack is one of the best in that department, meaning she can easily hit-confirm into a lethal combo from virtually any situation.

2) She can also combo from a throw as well as from her command throw. Because Down-Toward + Medium Attack is also jump-cancellable, in the corner, this is particularly dangerous.

3) She has a low-hitting assist, meaning she's not just dangerous as a point character, she's also one of the most dangerous assists in the game (you can set up unblockable high/low situations).

Those aren't even the top reasons she's strong, which are better seen than talked about. Her "Helper Kitty" super is also extremely dangerous, and sets up more potential unblockables while she's on point.

Did you know those things about Felicia? I'm guessing "no" because nobody without a copy of the game would know them, and if you DID have a copy of the game, I wouldn't have to tell you that Felicia is legit, because you would know it for yourself :P I'm not trying to go, "I have the game and you don't! Neener neener neener!" I'm just pointing them out to illustrate that there's a lot more to these characters than meets the eye, or that you would necessarily discover after a few minutes of playtime. You're going to want to go hands-on and spend some time playing before you make pronouncements about who sucks, who doesn't — there are an unbelievable amount of possibilities in here.

Anyway, enough Felicia chat — let's have this argument again after the MvC3 release. If you still think Felicia is so worse than she's been in other games (and can find a rankings chart or two that agrees), I'll be happy to apologize.

P.S.: To the original poster, regarding the voice, if you don't like the English voice actor, you'll have the option to select her Japanese voice instead!

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MALDA said on January 4, 2011 at 3:24 a.m.

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JoseRufus said on January 4, 2011 at 3:29 a.m.

"lowest heath"

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ThePope78 said on January 4, 2011 at 3:32 a.m.

Always liked Felicia when I was knew to the game, easy combos, fast and pretty good damage, I looked forward to playing with her.

As for Seth Killian... Why so godlike?

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Mr_Clack said on January 4, 2011 at 3:33 a.m.

WOw...I guess we can call Seth Clack-A-Licious.

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crispylinks77 said on January 4, 2011 at 3:33 a.m.

"lowest health".... so that means there's no Phoenix. Either that or if Phoenix is in the game, then she can't be revived.

Which is actually funny. I just realized that having Phoenix able to revive (regardless of how fragile her health is) is completely broken. Because think about it. You can just save all your meter and then when the time runs out, just revive her so that you win by timeout.

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crispylinks77 said on January 4, 2011 at 3:34 a.m.

Furries :P

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Lavama said on January 4, 2011 at 3:34 a.m.

If Felicia has the lowest health, Frank will be a dull, dull boy.

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Kijui said on January 4, 2011 at 3:36 a.m.

But... I LOVE Felicia...she is my second favorite Capcom character behind Dan.... I'm seeing a trend here...

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DumbDLC said on January 4, 2011 at 3:38 a.m.

Felicia is a lame character who should have been left out and seth sounds like he is full of BS the guy is just annoying now

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Mr_Clack said on January 4, 2011 at 3:40 a.m.

Seth just said Felicia does NOT have the lowest in the game! READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT!

High Chance it's Arthur without armor.

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Kijui said on January 4, 2011 at 3:44 a.m.

Actually, the few demonstration videos I have seen that included Felicia had her darn near destroying the entire opponent's team, and she does not seem to have the lowest stamina, is this also with armorless Arthur in mind orwhat ? I mean, Seth talks abouut about her as if she is SSF2T Akuma or something. It is just like the Seth phenomena in SFIV, as long as the AI doesn't get a Felicia that has psychic command grab abilities and high stamina, I'm am all for it, it is about time Felicia got boosted enough to get nerfed (oh God, I'm mixing SSFIVAE terms!)

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crispylinks77 said on January 4, 2011 at 3:48 a.m.

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Ok, this is what I meant:

If Felicia has the lowest health, you can still have Phoenix, but she will not be able to revive (because she would need glass-like health in order to balance her out)

If Phoenix is in AND can revive, she MUST have lower health than Felicia (cause having her have the same health with Felicia AND being able to revive is broken).

So having Felicia have the lowest health would indicate either of two things... Phoenix is not in, or she is in but can't revive.

Also, remember. If she could revive, you can always try to win with a timeout... which seems highly unfair.

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crispylinks77 said on January 4, 2011 at 3:48 a.m.

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Haha, I skimmed, my bad.

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peacepilgrim said on January 4, 2011 at 3:57 a.m.

I wonder what move is Felicia's 3B (down towards middle attack)?

Everything Seth says has to be taken with a grain of salt though. As Capcom's rep he can't really say "so and so" sucks outright; remember the Gen scenario from SSF4.

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mp91 said on January 4, 2011 at 4:23 a.m.

yeah right seth, and nobody has also reached thor's potential and dante is perfectly balanced with the rest of the cast........ can't believe what i'm reading,
gen scenario indeed, did he apologize for that btw?

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LastRambo341 said on January 4, 2011 at 4:33 a.m.

Woah, that kid sure was whining like a baby. I've played the build myself, and Felicia seems way stronger than her MvC2 counterpart. Also, her English voice acting is amazing, sorry if you're too used to being a Japanophile (her JP voice, just like all Capcom characters, sound annoying and gibberish)

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Kid_Kuma said on January 4, 2011 at 4:38 a.m.

I really hope they add one more Darkstalker! Preferably Hsien Ko she was my favorite, and that way I can have a full Darkstalkers team of sexy ladies. They have to give me Hsien! It's like owning Squirtle and Wartortle but no Blastoise. AIN'T RIGHT!

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MALDA said on January 4, 2011 at 4:47 a.m.

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Kenshiro said on January 4, 2011 at 4:51 a.m.

Nice hypocrisy thar 19. You don't sound anything like the dick your criticizing.

With that said I'm glad the language option isn't as mysterious as everything else.

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Kebo said on January 4, 2011 at 4:55 a.m.

If her low assist doesn't sweep the opponent and can connect to a launcher it'll be sweet

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therealist1991 said on January 4, 2011 at 5:09 a.m.

Felicia > Modok & Tron Bonne

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MC2 said on January 4, 2011 at 5:29 a.m.

Wow, the questions asked in this article are both downright stupid and just plain rude.

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lordgootecks said on January 4, 2011 at 5:33 a.m.

what's otg?

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peacepilgrim said on January 4, 2011 at 5:35 a.m.

@lordgootecks

It means Off the Ground.

Certain moves can hit you while you are lying on the ground, or even knock you back up in the air.

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irrenmann said on January 4, 2011 at 5:53 a.m.

People who lecture and "correct" Seth about a game they usually haven't actually played yet (and if so, may not have even played a final version) need medication.

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sethkillianfanboy said on January 4, 2011 at 6:16 a.m.

Preach it, Mr. Killian! Lay down the LAW!

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LastRambo341 said on January 4, 2011 at 6:18 a.m.

@Kenshiro #22

Explain how I was hypocritical.

I am NOT glad that there is a voice option, its so stupid and unecessary.

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Apostian said on January 4, 2011 at 6:32 a.m.

Who the hell was asking the questions? Seriously, that was embarrassing.

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Mr_Clack said on January 4, 2011 at 6:35 a.m.

HOW the HELL is #31 not banned yet? Does he pay Catalyst money?

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RaiZo said on January 4, 2011 at 6:44 a.m.

Wait...

"for the original POSTER"?? WTF!!

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BATZARRO said on January 4, 2011 at 6:49 a.m.

Yeah, that Felicia no one will play as her.

Better for me, though. I like the underrateds. I don't hate people who stick to the god-tiers, but I'd rather kill ten Cables for one Felicia than Vice Versa.

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Super_Shoto_Fighter_4 said on January 4, 2011 at 6:52 a.m.

I knew Felicia would be good. The Boobs never lie.

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OhYouDontSayThat said on January 4, 2011 at 7:29 a.m.

That interviewer is a f*cking scrub. name please?

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WASSHOI said on January 4, 2011 at 7:31 a.m.

Did any of the first few posters talking about her having the "lowest health" even read this entry? Seth himself said she DOES NOT have the lowest health in the game.

DOES

NOT

Not that she DOES have the lowest health.

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WASSHOI said on January 4, 2011 at 7:32 a.m.

And in case you guys need something to ctrl+f to:
>As for Felicia's stamina, it's below average (it's not the lowest in the game)

>it's below average (it's not the lowest in the game)

>(it's not the lowest in the game)

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Creeper said on January 4, 2011 at 7:36 a.m.

Damn, I can usually expect a pretty good read out of these Q&As but this was just straight-up bickering about Felicia. It's not even Seth's fault, either.

I don't really like Felicia. She could've been replaced by Donovan (eclipsed by Trish in some respects), Hsien-Ko (if she's not already in the game), or Lord Raptor (though his constant transformations would probably hog RAM). No matter which of my Darkstalkers characters make it in, I'd still think Felicia would be a wasted slot. To each his own though, it's not just my game and there are more than enough characters I'm ecstatic about for a few (in my opinion) mediocre oddballs to really bother me. If Hsien-Ko does make it in, I'll be happy. I get a childish joy out of her and her goofy airdash.

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moemoekyun said on January 4, 2011 at 7:40 a.m.

how embarrassing. dude just got served. shouldn't have gone running his mouth like that.

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SHOGUN said on January 4, 2011 at 7:42 a.m.

My guess would be Arthur in his boxers or X-23 for the prize of having the lowest health. Hell maybe even Magneto.

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moemoekyun said on January 4, 2011 at 7:43 a.m.

@40 if shuma gorath is in the game i dont think lord raptor would have been a problem. personally i would have loved to see jedah in this game but i think there would be a problem with this game being rated T and all.

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Balloon said on January 4, 2011 at 8:09 a.m.

Mark_Morrison hits it right on the head. Dead on. Absolutely correct, and makes me proud to be an American.

In other news, Seth has been flaming since the mid 90's, it was only a matter of time before the masses drew out his true power.

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MrPavy said on January 4, 2011 at 8:37 a.m.

felicia is a waste,she looks like a stupid looking anime character

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kirbykirbykirby said on January 4, 2011 at 8:46 a.m.

wtf is felicia? i beat darkstalkers on psp with her and got the same ending i did with morrigan. is she just a human acting like a cat? she looks interesting and i wish seth had a demonstration video using her. i barley find any videos of felicia.

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Zarathos said on January 4, 2011 at 9:02 a.m.

Wow those are some stupid questions . But what's worse is that some people around here can't even read properly

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joker101 said on January 4, 2011 at 9:08 a.m.

"Your constant implications that those who say she's bad or simply decent are fools who don't know how to play her (which, by the way, is extremely insulting to people like me who have mained Felicia in every game she's been in so far). She is not better in this game than in all the others she's appeared in, she was vastly superior in Darkstalkers 3 and MvC2. — Al"

... who is this prick "Al"? Can someone please slap him for the rest of us? "Your constant implications ... extremely insulting ..." jesus what a whiner.

Seth has more access to the completed game than this "Al" or anybody else; he knows what he's talking about.

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DestinyZX1 said on January 4, 2011 at 9:29 a.m.

I don't think Felicia is that bad. I played with her at times and she's good with her variety of moves especially in MvC2 which you can come up with so many different situations that it isn't funny. I look forward to playing with Felicia in MvC3.

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MisguidedAngel said on January 4, 2011 at 9:31 a.m.

Stupid questin, but when a character can "Off The Ground" what exactly does that mean in an MVC game? I know every character has a launcher, etc...

Sorry, a bit of a noob at this.

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Icytor said on January 4, 2011 at 9:34 a.m.

its cool dude, it means that a character can hit the charcter while they lie on the ground. Like if you sweep someone in SSF4 but afterwards you could continue hitting them while they are stunned on the ground. Also i dont hate felicia in this, i just dont know her tools XD. Though she looks alot better then gen though at least, some of her moves actually look viable in comparision.

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EVOBiohazard said on January 4, 2011 at 9:39 a.m.

I'm gonna give Felicia a try and whoever "Al" is, he is stupid. How can you judge something that hasn't been released yet? It's like saying that SF3 Online Edition is worse than SF3 3rd Strike. You don't know that!

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Toykonightlife said on January 4, 2011 at 9:47 a.m.

'Is there going to be one more Darkstalker in Marvel vs. Capcom 3'?

Seth: 'No way you're getting that one out of me :-*'

yeah... we all know that one darkstalker is dlc and that is hsien ko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZUAEK...

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TwoCoins said on January 4, 2011 at 10:03 a.m.

Felicia sucks and for a half naked cat lady she even isnt that popular with these "sex appeal" qualities....mark my words you will barely see her picked online...as will She-Hulk

Stupid japan throwing in their perversions into an action pack fighting game filled with legends and we get this idiot.

Talbain, Lord Raptor, or Dimitri would of been loads more popular in the west... and Hsien-Ko is cool and all but if we get zero of the male dark stalkers cast then i say no to her if we get 3 female darkstalkers,but Hsien-Ko is loads better than Felecia though.

... i thought Darkstalkers was a game with variety of characters not some stupid arcana hearts game, and if that's the direction they want to take the game then i say no to a revival...they won't be seing my money if they make it someday...MvC and SF is all the fighting fix i need.

I still think it's laughable that Capcom added Shuma-Gorath and Felicia....they will probably be the least played characters online...and they somehow think their perverted fetish characters is gonna magically make that game become popular over there with there wank fest cast.

There's just too many legendary characters from both Capcom and Marvel that's getting neglected that will appeal to a more bigger audience, but i dont think we will ever see a true fan-requested all-star cast because some developer,creator or producer at Capcom will always like some bottom tier, unpopular, or fetish style character that will steal a spot on the roster from someone more deserving.

The Dev's at capcom always trying to throw their favorites over the fans...should of gotten their fix making TvC

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TeamEHRGEIZ said on January 4, 2011 at 10:06 a.m.

Man, whoever was conducting the interview was a real jerk. Not professional in the slightest...

I couldn't agree more with #19. I think her English voice is just fine. The people who complain about it are probably the same people who are upset that the Marvel side doesn't have a Japanese voice option. In fact, I think everyone's English voices are great while the Japanese voices are either incredibly dull or just plain annoying. Besides, it's such a petty thing to complain about that it just makes you look foolish.

I killed people using Felicia in MVC2, and I'll do the same in MVC3. She still looks fun to play.

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DxEggman said on January 4, 2011 at 10:33 a.m.

So in a nutshell, Eventhubs hates seeing "sexy" women. Somehow not surprised. This isn't the first game this "perverted" character's been in, did you know?

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SmokeRulz said on January 4, 2011 at 10:35 a.m.

Damn. People really like being dicks to Seth Killian. Whomever did that interview needs to be hit with something. Absolutely ridiculous and unprofessional Felicia crybaby fanboy.

I'm with #19 and #57, pretty much. I despise Japanese voices. Rage at me all you want, I HATE them. Very rarely are they interesting, like say, Bison in SF4. They're mostly tolerable in TvC, which is good, because there aren't any English voices in that game. But if I have the option to use English voices in a game, I'm taking it.

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TwoCoins said on January 4, 2011 at 10:38 a.m.

@58 in a nutshell sexy women in video games does not make you any less of a virgin twat.

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DarkCyclone said on January 4, 2011 at 10:39 a.m.

Interesting info but I'm curious as to why seth even bothers replying to these dumbasses who act like they know what they're talking about

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cadnexus said on January 4, 2011 at 10:44 a.m.

There you have it, there's another Darkstalker character from that Franchise. Hsien-Ko is not a Darkstalker, but a Darkhunter that hunts Darkstalkers, that character has been the most rumored in the game, but still no guarantees. I would guess if there's one more for DLC, it would be Dononvan. But more than likely Hsien-Ko it looks like Hsien-Ko is in.
Here my clues. 1. Niitsuma did say on here Eventhubs if translated right, "no more DS characters beyond Felicia and Morrigan." By him saying that, it should of been easy for Seth to say there are NO more DS characters beyond Felicia and Morrigan. Seth Not saying nothing, actually hints more that there's another one in, when it was said that there would be no more. If there's no more period, for him to say nothing,Seth is pretty much playing games with people.

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BATZARRO said on January 4, 2011 at 10:44 a.m.

When did "WE" learn she was going to be DLC? Shouldn't DLC based achievements roll out AFTER the DLC is available?

As for "mark_morrison", yes it's all about Sexy sexyness with Darkstalkes. That's Why MVC2 had that sexy, sexual sexbomb od Sex proportions: Anakaris.

On a more serious note, Nitsume seems to like the Darkstalkers, and a character from a precious game is obviously an easier sell, especially one that doesn't demand that much retooling for 34. BBH? In 3d? With all those huge hunters popping out, and a little Dog? Or Donovan, who generates huge ghastly images for attacks. I'll give you Talbain, though.

Still, it's not like there was an outpour of demand for Felicia, not like I've seen for Captain Commando or Jin. I'm guessing Jin's Sexy clothesplosion is clouding people to the fact Jin is from a Japan only mech game, huh? They put Felicia because THEY WANTED to put Felicia. Not because there was demand. So there, the moment to deal with it is at hand.

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BATZARRO said on January 4, 2011 at 10:46 a.m.

On a little correction I meant to say "previous" not "precious"lol

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Gurou_Kun said on January 4, 2011 at 11 a.m.

...didn't even bother reading the comments, but I bet most of 'em go a little bit like this:

"BAWWWW they choose Felicia over
a) Demitri(shoto-clone, who everyone seems to love, by can´t even spell his name correctly).
b) Gallon(or Talbain, who's only charm is his directional attack, which M.O.D.O.K seems to have now)
c) Lei-Lei(or Hsien-ko, do we really need another projectile spammer in this game?)..."

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 11:06 a.m.

I'm happy there was a segment for Felicia, I'm planning on using her. She was my 2nd main in Vampire Savior, and a big part of my MvC2 team, and I can agree that she's the best she's EVER been in MvC3 JUST off gameplay videos alone.

And no, I don't pick her for sex appeal, nor to satisfy any fetish, but because she's a great UNIQUE character I enjoy playing as, which is exactly what this game is going for, diversity between characters.

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Kenshiro said on January 4, 2011 at 11:09 a.m.


@30 you're dumping on the JP voice actors with a gross generalization...the very thing you criticize the gamer talking about Felicia's VA. Clear enough for you? Also I'm real glad you have absolutely no input on this game.

@58 don't even try that. The number of sexy femmes in this game are at critical mass. I main Felicia along with Talbain and Dimitri but if she's not liked she's just not.

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cvs said on January 4, 2011 at 11:13 a.m.

@19 Lol japanophile?

@34 I will play her.

@46 I like felicia.

@47 She reminds me of taokaka from blazblue,half human half cat.

@51 People are just bashing her because she probably filled up a spot that people wanted "there" character in.

@56 Lol?

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cvs said on January 4, 2011 at 11:17 a.m.

@65 That pretty much sums it up right there.

@66 Me to,minus her being my fav in darkstalkers,my fav is lilith,but yeah,it's gonna be cool to use her.

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SSJVega said on January 4, 2011 at 11:21 a.m.

cant wait for the next episode trailer!

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MetroidG said on January 4, 2011 at 11:25 a.m.

@mark_morrison
Some characters show up for sex appeal some for cool factor. There's not really a difference you like a character by looks instead of gameplay tends to equal to the same thing.

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 11:28 a.m.

@cvs

Lilith was my 3rd main in Vampire Savior, She's so cute. ^3^
Also, with Felicia having her Dark Force hyper in MvC3, her rushdown increased x10, and she kept her "splash" attack as well...she's going to be great in the right hands.

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JanTheMan said on January 4, 2011 at 11:35 a.m.

The only characters I'll probably set at Japanese are SF chars and Darkstalkers chars...

Thank god I wont hear that awful Ryu English VA...

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 11:36 a.m.

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Posted by mark_morrison on January 4, 2011 at 11:30 a.m. #73

Oh dear people are trying to tell me felicia is liked due to being unique

Jesus christ i should kill myself
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Not everyone is a pervert, shall I ready a rope?

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TwoCoins said on January 4, 2011 at 11:42 a.m.

@75

Your name is ChunLi are you a female player?

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 11:57 a.m.

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Posted by TwoCoins on January 4, 2011 at 11:42 a.m. #76

@75

Your name is ChunLi are you a female player?
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On the contrary, no, although she's been my main in every Street Fighter and VS title, and I find it fitting to use that name for a website devoted to Street Fighter, what of it?

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gosuftb said on January 4, 2011 at 12:07 p.m.

All i read was NEENER NEENER NEENER

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Battlemage said on January 4, 2011 at 12:23 p.m.

Well he Seth set that guy straight...lol

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TwoCoins said on January 4, 2011 at 12:41 p.m.

@ChunLI

Well in all honesty if your not a female player and you Main Chun,You think Lilith is too cute and you don't find Felicia sexy is hard to believe, you picked her for anything other than her being a female.

Going on a whim you main only or mostly girls in your fighting game and yet sex appeal has "nothing" to do with why you play with them? You probably like anime, and you enjoy mostly anime girls.

If so then your opinion is biased.
I dont think a character should be played based on sex appeal alone, being sexy or cute.

The most legendary figures from capcom and marvel are mostly males......throwing in felicia to "add sex appeal" just seems down right lame.... From a business stand point they could boost more sells with more iconic characters than fetish characters that rare or few will play with...

just look how unpopular R.Mika is... she is one step higher than Felicia IMO and i pray to god she never gets added to anymore games unless they have no one else to add.

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smashfury said on January 4, 2011 at 12:57 p.m.

@ 81

it would have been nice to have seen BB Hood though

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J_Hausss said on January 4, 2011 at 1:01 p.m.

People only like felicia because of her tits and the sandsplash move. That move sucks now that they changed the input so her tits better be phenomenal to justify her inclusion.

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Lavama said on January 4, 2011 at 1:05 p.m.

Damn all this hate for Felicia...

Picked her up in Vampire Savior by choosing random, and having to fight her before with my main. The look is just an add on that I don't care that much for (I mean really. Yes they are just "there" but, it's a freakin' Cat person human hybrid thingy. That's like choosing Tailban if I was a girl because he was shirtless >_>. FLAT OUT NASTY.).

So, I hope that when MvC3 comes out, a year or two will go by, and all you will be playing these so called "High Tier" gods, a Felicia, Thor, and She-Hulk team will win EVO 2013. I will do something, I don't know. Maybe even enter EVO 2014 and get my butt kicked in Round 1, maybe.

I just gotta feeling the three less picked/liked characters (Right now for SURE) are going to be beasts.

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BATZARRO said on January 4, 2011 at 1:08 p.m.

But two coins they are NOT choosing characters solely on popularity. Popularity is only one of a variety of factors. Gameplay reasons, promotional reasons and how liked is the character by the devs. Nitsuma said the plan was to have mostly newer characters from after 2000 for Capcom, but since it was terribly unbalanced in which types of characters are in(because they had to balance the Marvel side, as well) , he added more females. Specifically, I think he said more Darkstalkers.See, it's not throwing Felicia for sex apeal. It's throwing in Felicia because Marvel's gonna end up having 3-4 females in a 30 strong roster, and while you don't care, they do. So, there.

Plus, I don't see how liking characters because of sex appeal in a fighting game is wrong vs liking a character because he's "cool" or you read/played all his comics/games as a kid or because you just plain like him. There's many reasons to want a character. For some people Phoenix Wright would be a terrible, ridiculous choice, but for me it's be a fun, ridiculous choice, much like M.O.D.O.K, or Tron or Jin.

Plus, the implication that every Felicia fan is hot for some cat ass is downright creepy when you see all the fandom this game drew for other franchises. Are you implying everyone who wants X wants to screw a robot teenager? Are you implying everyone who wants Ghost Rider wants to do it with a skeleton? No? Then kindly stop implying everyone who likes Felicia is morbidly obsessed with her sexuality because that's not always the case. Thank you!

End Rant.

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foreverbadass said on January 4, 2011 at 1:15 p.m.

@85
Well said, it's nice to see someone with sense post something in a dignified manner. You have my respect.

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Pandacite said on January 4, 2011 at 1:16 p.m.

Honsetly, I see nothing worng with sex appeal. I mean we are human after all. Its a foundational (I know its not a proper word) element of attraction. I would argue that half of you bashing felicia out there, have fanboy bromances over awesome or machismo nature ofthere favorite male character. That's not all that dissimilar for sex appeal (no homo, and no disrespect, just saying). Shoot that's have the reason zangief exists, that whole "arrrrg look at my muscles" stary eyed fanboy screams: "sugoi nee. I love you zangief. Your awesome, wanna be just like you!" My streetfighter buddy has drooling man/coolgasims like that all the time... but he;s pretty gay. So I could be wrong. Girrr, I'm just ranting, sorry. Just can't stand that lack of love for my girl:
I main felicia because she is unique, has rushdown, fits my style of play and because i love kitty girls (barely fufilling a fetish, every "attacked" a japanese girl in a kitty hoodie, I'm guessing not), prefer anything effeminate to male characters bulging with way to much ugly muscle mass... ...and you know what. Nothin worng with that.

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KenScrub said on January 4, 2011 at 1:23 p.m.

I swear Seth is always defending the wasted slot characters. Shes nothing but fan service. Which I have no problem with. But the fan service character should at least be good not just only eye candy.

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Alkipot said on January 4, 2011 at 1:31 p.m.

Nothing screams "I'm destined to be a virgin forever" louder than guys arguing over consoles. Unless you're a shareholder in either company, you should probably STFU now in order to refrain from furthering your display of stupidity.

Women keep you in the "friend/like my brother" zone for a reason. Stay free. From sexual relations, that is. LOL.

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VideoKid106 said on January 4, 2011 at 1:31 p.m.

@85 Your mouth is full of truth... well, your fingers :P

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cvs said on January 4, 2011 at 1:37 p.m.

@89 lol what?

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Pandacite said on January 4, 2011 at 1:37 p.m.

& I'm fully aware of my bad grammar I'm pretty half hood kid and on a sh%$!y phone in class.

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 1:39 p.m.

@TwoCoins and Mark_Morrison

So...you think I pick female characters for ulterior motives? I can understand your argument, as it is quite suggestive, but I can shed some light for your concern.

I do play:
Chun Li and Rose for the SF titles
Morrigan and Felicia for DS
Noel Vermillion and Jin in BlazBlue
Terry and Yuri in KoF
Sub Zero in Mortal Kombat
Kirby and Link in the Smash Bros series
Morrigan and Zero for TvC

So, true, I mostly play female characters in fighting games. One reason why I do is "because" they are different, gameplay-wise, from the rest of the cast and I find myself enjoying how to use them. If Rikuo from DS played like Felicia from the beginning instead, I would be playing as Rikuo. Put that scenario for ANY character I just listed, and I would play them instead of aforementioned characters.

For Lilith, she's SUPPOSED to be the underdeveloped part of Morrigan, rather than being seductive and alluring, she's cheerful and just, simply, too cute for her own good.

As claiming that I like anime, the answer is yes, I do. Do I "enjoy" anime girls? Yes, but not in the way that you are "suggesting" that I "enjoy them". My first anime was DBZ, hardly any estrogen-spewing material. My favorite series is Rurouni Kenshin, again, not female oriented.

I do not pick characters in a fighting game based on their "appeal", just on how they actually fight. I don't play Ryu or shotos simply because they are boring, but find myself playing Sakura and Gouken because they're different from Ryu/Ken/Akuma. I play DeeJay and Dictator at times because they are similar to how Chun-Li works and I can work with them fine. I play Rose because she is really unique, being able to play nice with fireball characters, confuse the opponent and keep them second guessing their next move, I love it.

I play Morrigan in Vampire Savior because she can be very simple, yet complex, with her crazy EX button combinations and mix-ups, and I like that. With Lilith being similar to her, I use her sometimes to mix it up.

I play Zero in TvC because I'm a HUGE MMX fan, especially X4, so it's no wonder why I would pick and learn to use him. So, before anyone goes and says "Oh, another Zero scrub", I can actually say I've been waiting for the original Zero to appear in a VS title. MMZ Zero appeared in SvC Chaos and Onimusha Blade Warriors, I was just waiting for Capcom to surprise the old fans of Megaman X.

I hope that clears some things up, and for anyone who might be wondering:
No, I don't spend my free time looking up hentai of the people I play as in video games. I will not say that it has not happened before, but I kinda hit puberty a long time ago, I can control myself.

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J_Hausss said on January 4, 2011 at 1:39 p.m.

Felicia will suck in this game. Bottom-tier for sure. "Roll tier" will now be called "Felicia-tier."

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 1:39 p.m.

Also, adding Felicia for whatever reason CAPCOM has decided, that's what we're going to have to deal with. Some are happy, some are sad, that's how it goes. I, for one, am part of those whom are happy for that decision. For those who just assume that she was added for the sole reason of "Sex appeal" are those who have little to no experience OF that character, nor how popular she is FOR the Darkstalker franchise. If Marvel approved of every male character being turned into Females for Dimitri's EX Midnight Bliss, I'm sure we would have had him in MvC3. I'm sure if both parties agreed to have excessive blood and bump the game's rating to "M" JUST for Jedah, we would have him. Look at the other reasons for including certain characters before you jump to conclusions.

Thank you for evoking my longest post on the internet, I hope you go through my entire post before posting a half-baked reply.

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J_Hausss said on January 4, 2011 at 1:43 p.m.

@ChunLi: All your character choices suck and you are probably just another scrub. My Doronjo could mop the floor with your Zero in TVC

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 1:45 p.m.

Congratulations to J_Hausss for just reading my character preferences and not the entire post.

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foreverbadass said on January 4, 2011 at 1:47 p.m.

@97
After reading the entirety of your post I knew there'd be at least one 'genius' who'd do that.

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J_Hausss said on January 4, 2011 at 1:47 p.m.

Yeah i read about the catgirl hentai you watch too

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 1:49 p.m.

@foreverbadass

It's inevitable, sadly, and he even goes on to assume I watch catgirl hentai, quite the character.

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J_Hausss said on January 4, 2011 at 1:50 p.m.

It's true! I saw it when I hecked into his computer!

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Kenshiro said on January 4, 2011 at 1:52 p.m.

I don't understand this tripe. Midnight Bliss would have either been replaced or toned down to an unrecognizable Hyper. Not that I'm hating the Darkstalker reps but Morrigan is in her 3rd MvsC game. That's probably due to her being Ryu-like. Felicia IS the sex-appeal factor and no one would cry either way if she was absent from this game.

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 1:53 p.m.

Everyone give a warm welcome to J_Hausss, the Eventhubs comedian, "hecking" into your computer 24/7 for viable material to embarrass you on the internet.

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foreverbadass said on January 4, 2011 at 1:53 p.m.

@100
Can't say I didn't see that assumption coming as well; I think his assumption spawned from the fact you use Sub-Zero and Link as they're both clearly catgirls, I mean clearly the only non-catgirl character on that list is Felicia...oh wait.

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J_Hausss said on January 4, 2011 at 1:53 p.m.

I bet you would do a real cat too.

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 1:58 p.m.

@Kenshiro

I agree with you, but Dimitri isn't really himself without that EX move. He was in SvC Chaos and even *SNK* allowed it to be in, making every male turn into a female for that move. I guess Marvel is afraid to "vandalize" their well-known superheroes for a game. Which is entirely understandable, don't get me wrong, some fans would rage to see a female captain america.

As for Morrigan, she's kinda the poster-girl for DarkStalkers now, Dimitri lost popularity fast...

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J_Hausss said on January 4, 2011 at 2 p.m.

@ ChunLi: I saw a Captain America with boobs when I hecked your computer

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ChunLi said on January 4, 2011 at 2:04 p.m.

Edit: Most males turned into females in SvC Chaos, sorry, I just watched a compilation video for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJtIk9...

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