Capcom's Seth Killian talked a lot about Felicia in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 recently on the Unity Boards, saying that the character is a lot stronger than some people have thought after playing her in pre-release builds of the game. Here's the rundown.
Is there going to be one more Darkstalker in Marvel vs. Capcom 3?
Seth: No way you're getting that one out of me :-*
Why has Capcom made Felicia weak and have a horrible English voice actor and the lowest heath in the game?
Seth: Felicia is, in my opinion, much stronger in MvC3 than she has ever been in any game before. She might seem a bit obvious so far, but she definitely has the tools to win. Right now probably the most under-appreciated character in the game (in fairness, that's mostly by people who haven't had a chance to play much). [...]
Seth, you're talking about Felicia as though she's the most awesome, deadly, unappreciated god tier character ever is really getting out of hand. — Al
Seth: ???
I don't think I've really ever talked about Felicia in depth before, but I called her underappreciated because she is, and said she was, in my opinion, stronger in MvC3 than in any game before. That's true. I don't know how you translated that to what you've written above ("god-tier"?).
Your constant implications that those who say she's bad or simply decent are fools who don't know how to play her (which, by the way, is extremely insulting to people like me who have mained Felicia in every game she's been in so far). She is not better in this game than in all the others she's appeared in, she was vastly superior in Darkstalkers 3 and MvC2. — Al
Seth: Let's take the crazy-talk down a notch here. Not sure where you're coming from, but I didn't call anybody a fool (how can I insult someone's ability to play a character in a game that hasn't even been released?). I said that nobody that I've seen in videos or playing at the various location tests, etc. has come close to tapping her potential. That's also very true.
As for Felicia's stamina, it's below average (it's not the lowest in the game), but low stamina is true for a lot of the strongest "rush" characters in terms of health, and she has a very strong rush-down game. Beyond her movelist, there are a lot of features of the MvC3 engine that she is particularly good at exploiting. I won't be able to describe her extremely fast high/low mixups in a convincing way, but here's a few other Felicia fun-facts that make her strong:
"lowest health".... so that means there's no Phoenix. Either that or if Phoenix is in the game, then she can't be revived.
Which is actually funny. I just realized that having Phoenix able to revive (regardless of how fragile her health is) is completely broken. Because think about it. You can just save all your meter and then when the time runs out, just revive her so that you win by timeout.
Actually, the few demonstration videos I have seen that included Felicia had her darn near destroying the entire opponent's team, and she does not seem to have the lowest stamina, is this also with armorless Arthur in mind orwhat ? I mean, Seth talks abouut about her as if she is SSF2T Akuma or something. It is just like the Seth phenomena in SFIV, as long as the AI doesn't get a Felicia that has psychic command grab abilities and high stamina, I'm am all for it, it is about time Felicia got boosted enough to get nerfed (oh God, I'm mixing SSFIVAE terms!)
@ 12
Ok, this is what I meant:
If Felicia has the lowest health, you can still have Phoenix, but she will not be able to revive (because she would need glass-like health in order to balance her out)
If Phoenix is in AND can revive, she MUST have lower health than Felicia (cause having her have the same health with Felicia AND being able to revive is broken).
So having Felicia have the lowest health would indicate either of two things... Phoenix is not in, or she is in but can't revive.
Also, remember. If she could revive, you can always try to win with a timeout... which seems highly unfair.
I wonder what move is Felicia's 3B (down towards middle attack)?
Everything Seth says has to be taken with a grain of salt though. As Capcom's rep he can't really say "so and so" sucks outright; remember the Gen scenario from SSF4.
Woah, that kid sure was whining like a baby. I've played the build myself, and Felicia seems way stronger than her MvC2 counterpart. Also, her English voice acting is amazing, sorry if you're too used to being a Japanophile (her JP voice, just like all Capcom characters, sound annoying and gibberish)
@lordgootecks
It means Off the Ground.
Certain moves can hit you while you are lying on the ground, or even knock you back up in the air.
@Kenshiro #22
Explain how I was hypocritical.
I am NOT glad that there is a voice option, its so stupid and unecessary.
I knew Felicia would be good. The Boobs never lie.
That interviewer is a f*cking scrub. name please?
Damn, I can usually expect a pretty good read out of these Q&As but this was just straight-up bickering about Felicia. It's not even Seth's fault, either.
I don't really like Felicia. She could've been replaced by Donovan (eclipsed by Trish in some respects), Hsien-Ko (if she's not already in the game), or Lord Raptor (though his constant transformations would probably hog RAM). No matter which of my Darkstalkers characters make it in, I'd still think Felicia would be a wasted slot. To each his own though, it's not just my game and there are more than enough characters I'm ecstatic about for a few (in my opinion) mediocre oddballs to really bother me. If Hsien-Ko does make it in, I'll be happy. I get a childish joy out of her and her goofy airdash.
how embarrassing. dude just got served. shouldn't have gone running his mouth like that.
@40 if shuma gorath is in the game i dont think lord raptor would have been a problem. personally i would have loved to see jedah in this game but i think there would be a problem with this game being rated T and all.
wtf is felicia? i beat darkstalkers on psp with her and got the same ending i did with morrigan. is she just a human acting like a cat? she looks interesting and i wish seth had a demonstration video using her. i barley find any videos of felicia.
"Your constant implications that those who say she's bad or simply decent are fools who don't know how to play her (which, by the way, is extremely insulting to people like me who have mained Felicia in every game she's been in so far). She is not better in this game than in all the others she's appeared in, she was vastly superior in Darkstalkers 3 and MvC2. — Al"
... who is this prick "Al"? Can someone please slap him for the rest of us? "Your constant implications ... extremely insulting ..." jesus what a whiner.
Seth has more access to the completed game than this "Al" or anybody else; he knows what he's talking about.
I don't think Felicia is that bad. I played with her at times and she's good with her variety of moves especially in MvC2 which you can come up with so many different situations that it isn't funny. I look forward to playing with Felicia in MvC3.
Stupid questin, but when a character can "Off The Ground" what exactly does that mean in an MVC game? I know every character has a launcher, etc...
Sorry, a bit of a noob at this.
its cool dude, it means that a character can hit the charcter while they lie on the ground. Like if you sweep someone in SSF4 but afterwards you could continue hitting them while they are stunned on the ground. Also i dont hate felicia in this, i just dont know her tools XD. Though she looks alot better then gen though at least, some of her moves actually look viable in comparision.
I'm gonna give Felicia a try and whoever "Al" is, he is stupid. How can you judge something that hasn't been released yet? It's like saying that SF3 Online Edition is worse than SF3 3rd Strike. You don't know that!
'Is there going to be one more Darkstalker in Marvel vs. Capcom 3'?
Seth: 'No way you're getting that one out of me :-*'
yeah... we all know that one darkstalker is dlc and that is hsien ko
Felicia sucks and for a half naked cat lady she even isnt that popular with these "sex appeal" qualities....mark my words you will barely see her picked online...as will She-Hulk
Stupid japan throwing in their perversions into an action pack fighting game filled with legends and we get this idiot.
Talbain, Lord Raptor, or Dimitri would of been loads more popular in the west... and Hsien-Ko is cool and all but if we get zero of the male dark stalkers cast then i say no to her if we get 3 female darkstalkers,but Hsien-Ko is loads better than Felecia though.
... i thought Darkstalkers was a game with variety of characters not some stupid arcana hearts game, and if that's the direction they want to take the game then i say no to a revival...they won't be seing my money if they make it someday...MvC and SF is all the fighting fix i need.
I still think it's laughable that Capcom added Shuma-Gorath and Felicia....they will probably be the least played characters online...and they somehow think their perverted fetish characters is gonna magically make that game become popular over there with there wank fest cast.
There's just too many legendary characters from both Capcom and Marvel that's getting neglected that will appeal to a more bigger audience, but i dont think we will ever see a true fan-requested all-star cast because some developer,creator or producer at Capcom will always like some bottom tier, unpopular, or fetish style character that will steal a spot on the roster from someone more deserving.
The Dev's at capcom always trying to throw their favorites over the fans...should of gotten their fix making TvC
Man, whoever was conducting the interview was a real jerk. Not professional in the slightest...
I couldn't agree more with #19. I think her English voice is just fine. The people who complain about it are probably the same people who are upset that the Marvel side doesn't have a Japanese voice option. In fact, I think everyone's English voices are great while the Japanese voices are either incredibly dull or just plain annoying. Besides, it's such a petty thing to complain about that it just makes you look foolish.
I killed people using Felicia in MVC2, and I'll do the same in MVC3. She still looks fun to play.
Damn. People really like being dicks to Seth Killian. Whomever did that interview needs to be hit with something. Absolutely ridiculous and unprofessional Felicia crybaby fanboy.
I'm with #19 and #57, pretty much. I despise Japanese voices. Rage at me all you want, I HATE them. Very rarely are they interesting, like say, Bison in SF4. They're mostly tolerable in TvC, which is good, because there aren't any English voices in that game. But if I have the option to use English voices in a game, I'm taking it.
Interesting info but I'm curious as to why seth even bothers replying to these dumbasses who act like they know what they're talking about
There you have it, there's another Darkstalker character from that Franchise. Hsien-Ko is not a Darkstalker, but a Darkhunter that hunts Darkstalkers, that character has been the most rumored in the game, but still no guarantees. I would guess if there's one more for DLC, it would be Dononvan. But more than likely Hsien-Ko it looks like Hsien-Ko is in.
Here my clues. 1. Niitsuma did say on here Eventhubs if translated right, "no more DS characters beyond Felicia and Morrigan." By him saying that, it should of been easy for Seth to say there are NO more DS characters beyond Felicia and Morrigan. Seth Not saying nothing, actually hints more that there's another one in, when it was said that there would be no more. If there's no more period, for him to say nothing,Seth is pretty much playing games with people.
When did "WE" learn she was going to be DLC? Shouldn't DLC based achievements roll out AFTER the DLC is available?
As for "mark_morrison", yes it's all about Sexy sexyness with Darkstalkes. That's Why MVC2 had that sexy, sexual sexbomb od Sex proportions: Anakaris.
On a more serious note, Nitsume seems to like the Darkstalkers, and a character from a precious game is obviously an easier sell, especially one that doesn't demand that much retooling for 34. BBH? In 3d? With all those huge hunters popping out, and a little Dog? Or Donovan, who generates huge ghastly images for attacks. I'll give you Talbain, though.
Still, it's not like there was an outpour of demand for Felicia, not like I've seen for Captain Commando or Jin. I'm guessing Jin's Sexy clothesplosion is clouding people to the fact Jin is from a Japan only mech game, huh? They put Felicia because THEY WANTED to put Felicia. Not because there was demand. So there, the moment to deal with it is at hand.
...didn't even bother reading the comments, but I bet most of 'em go a little bit like this:
"BAWWWW they choose Felicia over
a) Demitri(shoto-clone, who everyone seems to love, by can´t even spell his name correctly).
b) Gallon(or Talbain, who's only charm is his directional attack, which M.O.D.O.K seems to have now)
c) Lei-Lei(or Hsien-ko, do we really need another projectile spammer in this game?)..."
I'm happy there was a segment for Felicia, I'm planning on using her. She was my 2nd main in Vampire Savior, and a big part of my MvC2 team, and I can agree that she's the best she's EVER been in MvC3 JUST off gameplay videos alone.
And no, I don't pick her for sex appeal, nor to satisfy any fetish, but because she's a great UNIQUE character I enjoy playing as, which is exactly what this game is going for, diversity between characters.
@30 you're dumping on the JP voice actors with a gross generalization...the very thing you criticize the gamer talking about Felicia's VA. Clear enough for you? Also I'm real glad you have absolutely no input on this game.
@58 don't even try that. The number of sexy femmes in this game are at critical mass. I main Felicia along with Talbain and Dimitri but if she's not liked she's just not.
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Posted by mark_morrison on January 4, 2011 at 11:30 a.m. #73
Oh dear people are trying to tell me felicia is liked due to being unique
Jesus christ i should kill myself
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Not everyone is a pervert, shall I ready a rope?
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Posted by TwoCoins on January 4, 2011 at 11:42 a.m. #76
@75
Your name is ChunLi are you a female player?
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On the contrary, no, although she's been my main in every Street Fighter and VS title, and I find it fitting to use that name for a website devoted to Street Fighter, what of it?
@ChunLI
Well in all honesty if your not a female player and you Main Chun,You think Lilith is too cute and you don't find Felicia sexy is hard to believe, you picked her for anything other than her being a female.
Going on a whim you main only or mostly girls in your fighting game and yet sex appeal has "nothing" to do with why you play with them? You probably like anime, and you enjoy mostly anime girls.
If so then your opinion is biased.
I dont think a character should be played based on sex appeal alone, being sexy or cute.
The most legendary figures from capcom and marvel are mostly males......throwing in felicia to "add sex appeal" just seems down right lame.... From a business stand point they could boost more sells with more iconic characters than fetish characters that rare or few will play with...
just look how unpopular R.Mika is... she is one step higher than Felicia IMO and i pray to god she never gets added to anymore games unless they have no one else to add.
Damn all this hate for Felicia...
Picked her up in Vampire Savior by choosing random, and having to fight her before with my main. The look is just an add on that I don't care that much for (I mean really. Yes they are just "there" but, it's a freakin' Cat person human hybrid thingy. That's like choosing Tailban if I was a girl because he was shirtless >_>. FLAT OUT NASTY.).
So, I hope that when MvC3 comes out, a year or two will go by, and all you will be playing these so called "High Tier" gods, a Felicia, Thor, and She-Hulk team will win EVO 2013. I will do something, I don't know. Maybe even enter EVO 2014 and get my butt kicked in Round 1, maybe.
I just gotta feeling the three less picked/liked characters (Right now for SURE) are going to be beasts.
But two coins they are NOT choosing characters solely on popularity. Popularity is only one of a variety of factors. Gameplay reasons, promotional reasons and how liked is the character by the devs. Nitsuma said the plan was to have mostly newer characters from after 2000 for Capcom, but since it was terribly unbalanced in which types of characters are in(because they had to balance the Marvel side, as well) , he added more females. Specifically, I think he said more Darkstalkers.See, it's not throwing Felicia for sex apeal. It's throwing in Felicia because Marvel's gonna end up having 3-4 females in a 30 strong roster, and while you don't care, they do. So, there.
Plus, I don't see how liking characters because of sex appeal in a fighting game is wrong vs liking a character because he's "cool" or you read/played all his comics/games as a kid or because you just plain like him. There's many reasons to want a character. For some people Phoenix Wright would be a terrible, ridiculous choice, but for me it's be a fun, ridiculous choice, much like M.O.D.O.K, or Tron or Jin.
Plus, the implication that every Felicia fan is hot for some cat ass is downright creepy when you see all the fandom this game drew for other franchises. Are you implying everyone who wants X wants to screw a robot teenager? Are you implying everyone who wants Ghost Rider wants to do it with a skeleton? No? Then kindly stop implying everyone who likes Felicia is morbidly obsessed with her sexuality because that's not always the case. Thank you!
End Rant.
@85
Well said, it's nice to see someone with sense post something in a dignified manner. You have my respect.
Honsetly, I see nothing worng with sex appeal. I mean we are human after all. Its a foundational (I know its not a proper word) element of attraction. I would argue that half of you bashing felicia out there, have fanboy bromances over awesome or machismo nature ofthere favorite male character. That's not all that dissimilar for sex appeal (no homo, and no disrespect, just saying). Shoot that's have the reason zangief exists, that whole "arrrrg look at my muscles" stary eyed fanboy screams: "sugoi nee. I love you zangief. Your awesome, wanna be just like you!" My streetfighter buddy has drooling man/coolgasims like that all the time... but he;s pretty gay. So I could be wrong. Girrr, I'm just ranting, sorry. Just can't stand that lack of love for my girl:
I main felicia because she is unique, has rushdown, fits my style of play and because i love kitty girls (barely fufilling a fetish, every "attacked" a japanese girl in a kitty hoodie, I'm guessing not), prefer anything effeminate to male characters bulging with way to much ugly muscle mass... ...and you know what. Nothin worng with that.
Nothing screams "I'm destined to be a virgin forever" louder than guys arguing over consoles. Unless you're a shareholder in either company, you should probably STFU now in order to refrain from furthering your display of stupidity.
Women keep you in the "friend/like my brother" zone for a reason. Stay free. From sexual relations, that is. LOL.
@85 Your mouth is full of truth... well, your fingers :P
@TwoCoins and Mark_Morrison
So...you think I pick female characters for ulterior motives? I can understand your argument, as it is quite suggestive, but I can shed some light for your concern.
I do play:
Chun Li and Rose for the SF titles
Morrigan and Felicia for DS
Noel Vermillion and Jin in BlazBlue
Terry and Yuri in KoF
Sub Zero in Mortal Kombat
Kirby and Link in the Smash Bros series
Morrigan and Zero for TvC
So, true, I mostly play female characters in fighting games. One reason why I do is "because" they are different, gameplay-wise, from the rest of the cast and I find myself enjoying how to use them. If Rikuo from DS played like Felicia from the beginning instead, I would be playing as Rikuo. Put that scenario for ANY character I just listed, and I would play them instead of aforementioned characters.
For Lilith, she's SUPPOSED to be the underdeveloped part of Morrigan, rather than being seductive and alluring, she's cheerful and just, simply, too cute for her own good.
As claiming that I like anime, the answer is yes, I do. Do I "enjoy" anime girls? Yes, but not in the way that you are "suggesting" that I "enjoy them". My first anime was DBZ, hardly any estrogen-spewing material. My favorite series is Rurouni Kenshin, again, not female oriented.
I do not pick characters in a fighting game based on their "appeal", just on how they actually fight. I don't play Ryu or shotos simply because they are boring, but find myself playing Sakura and Gouken because they're different from Ryu/Ken/Akuma. I play DeeJay and Dictator at times because they are similar to how Chun-Li works and I can work with them fine. I play Rose because she is really unique, being able to play nice with fireball characters, confuse the opponent and keep them second guessing their next move, I love it.
I play Morrigan in Vampire Savior because she can be very simple, yet complex, with her crazy EX button combinations and mix-ups, and I like that. With Lilith being similar to her, I use her sometimes to mix it up.
I play Zero in TvC because I'm a HUGE MMX fan, especially X4, so it's no wonder why I would pick and learn to use him. So, before anyone goes and says "Oh, another Zero scrub", I can actually say I've been waiting for the original Zero to appear in a VS title. MMZ Zero appeared in SvC Chaos and Onimusha Blade Warriors, I was just waiting for Capcom to surprise the old fans of Megaman X.
I hope that clears some things up, and for anyone who might be wondering:
No, I don't spend my free time looking up hentai of the people I play as in video games. I will not say that it has not happened before, but I kinda hit puberty a long time ago, I can control myself.
Also, adding Felicia for whatever reason CAPCOM has decided, that's what we're going to have to deal with. Some are happy, some are sad, that's how it goes. I, for one, am part of those whom are happy for that decision. For those who just assume that she was added for the sole reason of "Sex appeal" are those who have little to no experience OF that character, nor how popular she is FOR the Darkstalker franchise. If Marvel approved of every male character being turned into Females for Dimitri's EX Midnight Bliss, I'm sure we would have had him in MvC3. I'm sure if both parties agreed to have excessive blood and bump the game's rating to "M" JUST for Jedah, we would have him. Look at the other reasons for including certain characters before you jump to conclusions.
Thank you for evoking my longest post on the internet, I hope you go through my entire post before posting a half-baked reply.
@97
After reading the entirety of your post I knew there'd be at least one 'genius' who'd do that.
I don't understand this tripe. Midnight Bliss would have either been replaced or toned down to an unrecognizable Hyper. Not that I'm hating the Darkstalker reps but Morrigan is in her 3rd MvsC game. That's probably due to her being Ryu-like. Felicia IS the sex-appeal factor and no one would cry either way if she was absent from this game.
@100
Can't say I didn't see that assumption coming as well; I think his assumption spawned from the fact you use Sub-Zero and Link as they're both clearly catgirls, I mean clearly the only non-catgirl character on that list is Felicia...oh wait.
@Kenshiro
I agree with you, but Dimitri isn't really himself without that EX move. He was in SvC Chaos and even *SNK* allowed it to be in, making every male turn into a female for that move. I guess Marvel is afraid to "vandalize" their well-known superheroes for a game. Which is entirely understandable, don't get me wrong, some fans would rage to see a female captain america.
As for Morrigan, she's kinda the poster-girl for DarkStalkers now, Dimitri lost popularity fast...
Edit: Most males turned into females in SvC Chaos, sorry, I just watched a compilation video for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJtIk9...
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