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AE blog notes: Honda, Gouken, Rose, Ibuki, Seth & Akuma

Posted — February 7, 2011 at 5:32 p.m. PST

The Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition developers latest entry focuses on some of the hit box changes to E. Honda, Gouken, Rose, Ibuki, Seth and Akuma.

A rough translation of the entry is available along with the images showing you how the various moves were changed.

Hit the jump to check things out.

E. Honda

E. Honda's old Jumping Medium Punch hit box in SSF4.

E. Honda's new Jumping Medium Punch hit box in Arcade Edition. The box has been raised slightly.

Gouken

Hit boxes for Gouken's Congo (Counter) attack. First image on the left is Light Punch, Medium Punch in the middle and Hard Punch on the right.

Rose

With Rose they talked about her previously known changes and showed the hit boxes for some of her normals.

Crouching Medium Punch's hit box.

Far Standing Medium Kick's hit box.

Ibuki

The developers posted a couple of images showing where Ibuki lands now in Arcade Edition after throwing a Kunai, they also mention the damage was reduced from 50 down to 30.

When Ibuki throws a Kunai from this position...

This is where she landed in chocolate SSF4.

And this is where she lands in Arcade Edition.

Seth

Here's the new hit box for Far Standing Medium Kick. The hittable box was pulled back a bit so it's not as close to the end of his foot and the active frames were increased, to make it a better poke.

Akuma

Akuma's Ultra 2 hit box when performed on its own.

Ultra 2's hit box when performed while Canceling out of a teleport, so now it will hit crouching opponents.

Next week's entry will be about Blanka, Abel, Makoto, Dee Jay and T. Hawk.

You can find older translation notes about E. Honda, Gouken, Rose & Ibuki, Seth and Akuma by visiting these links.

Source: Japanese SSF4 AE blog.

Comments

zUkUu said on February 7, 2011 at 5:35 p.m.

seth has a poke now? he might become a viable character :3

Paine said on February 7, 2011 at 5:37 p.m.

Down to 30? That's a big jump. I hope EX does more than just 60 damage otherwise it isn't really worth the meter.

kevinc92 said on February 7, 2011 at 5:40 p.m.

"This is where she landed in chocolate SSF4."
Haha chocolate ssf4. What flavor is AE?

We already have vanilla and chocolate covered.
Chocolate chip cookie dough?

mtran said on February 7, 2011 at 5:42 p.m.

strawberry

lynx_ID said on February 7, 2011 at 5:42 p.m.

honda really need buffs? well if the nerf were somelike bigs then yes, otherwise no

Paine said on February 7, 2011 at 5:42 p.m.

Strawberry.

Paine said on February 7, 2011 at 5:44 p.m.

What do you mean buff? Do you even know what that does for Honda? The all mighty j.mp doesn't stuff everything in its path now. It is easier to hit. Way to know your stuff.

lynx_ID said on February 7, 2011 at 5:54 p.m.

ohh my mistake, so sorry for all ;)

mai_k_4_life said on February 7, 2011 at 5:54 p.m.

dude, ibuki's kunai went from 50 to scoring 30 damage? why don't you make sonic boom recovery 20frames longer? geez

capcom has no respect to female characters except for my home boy makoto for making it to the big times with 1000 health

Von_Kunlun_BOOF said on February 7, 2011 at 5:55 p.m.

We're going to need at least 4 more SF4 versions until we hit Cookie dough.

#10

MelmaX said on February 7, 2011 at 5:59 p.m.

akuma is going to be a beast in AE :D

#11

Ranshi said on February 7, 2011 at 5:59 p.m.

After AE it becomes napolitan?

#12

destruktor666 said on February 7, 2011 at 6 p.m.

@paine

I was playing a guy who was using e.honda, and he would keep me outta the air by that jumping air hit. It's very effective.

#13

G0dsl4yer said on February 7, 2011 at 6:04 p.m.

@1
People who comment on games they clearly know nothing about.

#14

terror said on February 7, 2011 at 6:05 p.m.

that's all from ibuki? what about her terrible target combo hit boxes... wtf capcom

#15

DestinyZX1 said on February 7, 2011 at 6:09 p.m.

@3: That would be appropriate but I would consider it chocolate with sprinkles on top.

#16

kontrad1cti0n said on February 7, 2011 at 6:14 p.m.

@13

Just because a moved gets nerfed doesn't make it useless or unusable. The nerf on Honda's jp mp is arguably the biggest nerf he received in AE (Low level honda players will say the loss of lp headbutt as an anti air or the damage nerf). It is still a very viable move, but now it doesn't beat Chun's st fp, Sim's st hk, Sakur'a cr fp, and so on.

#17

zUkUu said on February 7, 2011 at 6:16 p.m.

comparsion of rose's moves to choclate.
http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/39bgp...
http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/4wfgg...

props to unknown

#18

Raven said on February 7, 2011 at 6:31 p.m.

Hmmm, they doubled the hitbox size of Akuma's U2. Sweet, that move must me the most whiffed move in all of SF! I swear, picking U2 is the equivalent to throwing the match away.

#19

Ex_Ein said on February 7, 2011 at 6:45 p.m.

Akuma teleport cancel u2 has that spice with a touch of GODDAMN

#20

zarakisan said on February 7, 2011 at 6:49 p.m.

As a gouken main these new counters are gonna take some getting used to

#21

Ex_Ein said on February 7, 2011 at 6:53 p.m.

Raven they quadripled it and made it like a damn fireball

#22

KizaruOfLight said on February 7, 2011 at 7:44 p.m.

Ibuki's kunai damage nerf was so uncalled for.

#23

spiffyg said on February 7, 2011 at 7:56 p.m.

@ 18
Rose's mk looks like crap now... And I can't really tell, but does her mp have less vertical reach in AE?

#24

spiffyg said on February 7, 2011 at 7:58 p.m.

And her crouching mp's hittable box was extended out a little further it seems. :( Did she really need these nerfs along with the U2 nerf? :(

#25

lynx_ID said on February 7, 2011 at 8:11 p.m.

I really dont understand why they are nerfing rose or vega or elf, who are mid tiers, but buff fei, ken and akuma that are higher tier than those mentioned before, I just dont understand that can someone explain me?

#26

RandomJohn said on February 7, 2011 at 8:49 p.m.

Did anyone tried dp fadc teleport U2 and see if it connects with Akuma? The vid I saw was fadc into U2, no teleport. I'm curious if it works or not.

#27

Ex_Ein said on February 7, 2011 at 9:56 p.m.

Ibuki's vortex is why kunai was nerfed, simple ain't it? And with her kunai landing. By changing it its harder to do the vortex as easily

#28

Phoenixrising77 said on February 7, 2011 at 10:28 p.m.

******Yawn*******...... So ..... are they gonna release any new characters or what? I swear by the time they do Mortal Kombat and MVC 3 will be out and most of us will already have moved on most likely. Oh well... DC Universe has totally kept me busy and with Killzone 3 coming out.....Looks like Street Fighter is gonna have to take a back seat LOL.

#29

Square_eyes said on February 8, 2011 at 12:15 a.m.

needs more sagat

#30

JustEddie said on February 8, 2011 at 1:22 a.m.

@29 Unlike Super, AE is more focused on the re-tweaking of the roster, an update if you will. Extra characters are just a bonus at this point.

#31

DarknessFallz said on February 8, 2011 at 5:38 a.m.

Why nerf Rose's normals, especially one of her staple ones? They took away the main useage of her best ultra and she was only on shaky ground being considered mid tier, no wonder no one in Japan uses her...

#32

mr_e said on February 8, 2011 at 7:07 a.m.

As a Gouken mainer, I was hoping to see his buffed normals explained. I seen a vid a while back of Gouken linking his crouching HP after a couple of jabs. The Congo reversals are so like Geese Howard. Might take a little time to get used to, but I'll manage. All in all, I'm glad he got those buffs. He really needed them

#33

Paine said on February 8, 2011 at 7:13 a.m.

@28

How does reducing the Kunai damage cause the vortex to become harder? Her jump arch after the kunai only changed for the jump back kunai, not the jump forward kunai.

#34

BlankaBeast said on February 8, 2011 at 7:30 a.m.

Cant wait to cry about the blanka nerfs lol

#35

Kennn said on February 8, 2011 at 10:39 a.m.

i missed the notes on guile. can u please start putting all the previous notes at the end like u did with the AE changes

#36

BisonBetterBeGoodInSSF4 said on February 8, 2011 at 12:39 p.m.

@ #9/23

the Kunai went from 50 damage to 30. if that is such a big nerf to you guys dont play seriously. its not going to stop her from dealing damage and stunning quickly. the only true nerf she got was her distance from a neck-breaker, and even that is slightly bad for her. take it from an Ibuki main, you'll be fine.

#37

KryptonianBaby said on February 8, 2011 at 5:02 p.m.

#29 Phoenixrising

I didn't know it was casual night on eventhubs...

#38

HKsupastar said on February 8, 2011 at 5:37 p.m.

@lynx_ID #5

LOL. That's a NERF! not a Buff!

#39

Utils said on February 9, 2011 at 12:17 a.m.

DIAGONAL HITBOXES? SINCE WHEN?

This changes EVERYTHING!