Covering several questions, Capcom's Christian Svensson responded to a bunch more threads on the Unity Boards. This bit talks about a disconnect percentage problem with Street Fighter 3 Third Strike Online Edition, and a new tool that could be a factor in the future. Also, Sven covers official mascots, criteria for PC ports of their games, fair use and video content and changing inputs post-release.I haven't played SF3 3s OE in a long while, and, I know for a fact that my disconnects were never higher than 6%. I got online yesterday for the first time in who knows how long, and, wouldn't you know it, my disconnect percentage is at 66%. What is going on? — Burning Typhoon
Svensson: From Derek [Neal],
Unfortunately, I’m not sure what could be afflicting this user based upon the limited information provided. There was a bug for a while that would cause disconnect percentages to become unreasonable, but it was long since fixed. Also, it made disconnect percentages things like 303585852%, not 66% (a realistic number).
My best advice would be to continue playing, and his disconnect percentage should slowly return to normal. On the other hand, if his disconnect % spikes again, and he is able to tie the event to something that happened in-game, it might be something that could be investigated and fixed.
On a side note, the leaderboard access tool that we are working on with Microsoft should eventually give us the ability to reset things like this (on XBLA at least, anyways).
Is Mega Man Capcom's official mascot character? — Razor
Svensson: We don't have a single "official corporate mascot". You may personally have one that you associate with our company (and that's great by the way) but there's nothing official internally.
You speak of defending the PC, but why are so many Capcom games not coming to PC? Like UMvC3, Devil May Cry HD Collection, Asura's Wrath, etc. — Marcelo boss
Svensson: Three points to make here.
1. There are more PC products in the works than we've made public.
2. In the future, an increasing percentage of our titles will be coming to PC than there are today (just as today there is a higher percentage than there was two or three years ago).
3. On a producer by producer basis, we've still not quite reached every one of them on the value of the PC to their projects. In some cases, they are unable to allocate resources to PC for fear of jeopardizing the console SKU quality or schedule. And for others, handing code to an outside shop creates a source code leak risk as far as they are concerned (though I'm not concerned about that). I promise, we will get past this issue.
I want to upload Marvel vs. Capcom match videos and combo tutorials to YouTube. I would like to upload them, and if I get enough traffic, put ads up as well. Does doing this this fall under the fair use clause? — Billybob
Svensson: The minute you insert ads for profit, you run afoul of any possible fair use defense.
Is it possible to change the input of Magneto's Magnetic Blast in UMVC3? It's just to hard to do it, I'm sure a lot of players think the same. — Ray
Svensson: We generally don't change inputs or loosen timings on things post-launch. To set expectations, that's highly unlikely to happen.
weak-ass questions and whats up with this mega-man stuff again
What do Trish, Vergil, Nemesis, Firebrand, Hsien Ko and Akuma have in common?
All of their respective main characters in their game made it in UMVC3.
Dante: Trish, Vergil
Nemesis: Chris
Firebrand: Arthur
Hsien Ko: Morrigan
Akuma: Ryu
Honestly, if you look at the entire cast, you will see that minor characters had the main character from their game make it in. All of them...
Except Megaman.
Accidentally flipped Dante and Vergil/Trish, but you get the idea.
@4
Then who's Megaman supposed to be in the game?
@7
No. I argued something. You didn't. Save yourself some time and don't post until you can actually add to the topic. All you did was make a personal attack.
I wonder what kind of sweet deal Mike and Gootecks have with Capcom.
When see one of their episodes, I have to watch a soundblaster headphones commercial first. Then they talk about checking out their live show, going to their webstie to buy match footage from competitions, while wearing purchasable clothing; all of which are based upon Capcom games. Then after all that, they slap on a Madcatz stick advert for the close.
@9
You have a pretty strange definition for what constitutes a personal attack. Your favorite character didn't make it into a video game.
Get over it.
@8 agree, but we need more classic characters like omega red, gambit and capt. commando, make it happen capcom
@12
I just read my comment. Then I read it again. And again. I can't find where it said Megaman was my favorite character. My favorite in UMvC3 is Phoenix Wright. I'm glad he made it in. I posted that comment as food for thought.
When you think about it the way I put it, you might be able to see why the whiny Megaman Fanboy actually has a reason to be pissed off.
Capcom holds Rockman Zero/Zero as being higher tier than Rockman Classic/Volnutt e.t.c
So having Zero in the game is downright acceptable in my books.
Good that more capcom games are coming to PC.
(they're slowly disowning mega man, going to leave him in the 90s!)
I guess Complexity handles all the legal stuff for Cross Counter? I think, could be wrong, but I think when Complexity stepped in Cross Counter TV had all those advertisements.. though the commercials are funny, the clothes cool, and the matches are usually high quality.
@12 Come on buddy
@16 I laughed
The only reason I would want Megaman in the game is for his gameplay. When he kills 1 character he gets one of their main abilities. Same thing is applicable to Rogue from X-men when she kisses the opponent (like in the older versus games). I want a character that can obtain abilities and I don't care who it is
@3 well the same thing can be said about Jill in MVC2, Jill and Chris are both equally important characters in the classic RE games yet Jill is the only one who makes it playable
Same Sh@! different year. People wanting a character in a fighting game then once he/she is put in they play him for a bit then find out the character(s) that are the most simple/easy to use/broken and w/e and 98% of the player base flocks to said character.
Lets take a look at PW for example. Yeah I see a lot of him online.
As much as I dislike certain aspects about Svensson, I like his answer regarding Capcom and official mascots.
Change Magnetic Blast's input? You CANNOT change that! That move has it's own unique input! No other move in probably all of fighting game history (except for Charlie's Moonsault Slash in the air, both of which are introduced in the same game) activates by pressing up, up forward, forward and attack!
I can understand something like Spider-Man's Web-Swing to go from RDP back to QCB, but due to the nature of MvC3's controls (LMH, no punch/kick differentiation), this isn't really possible.
Archie comics is currently publishing a Megaman comic. Maybe there's some licensing issues that arise from a competing company getting too close to him.
I have a theory going that Megaman isn't in due to Marvel or at least tension that might arise there and that Capcom just wants to avoid the subject.
You guys are speaking to the wrong person. Try Keth Sillian.
Hearing somebody actually ask to change the input for a move sickened me. Ray shouldn't be playing Magneto anyway.
Is it possible to change the input of Magneto's Magnetic Blast in UMVC3? It's just to hard to do it, I'm sure a lot of players think the same. — Ray
Svensson: We generally don't change inputs or loosen timings on things post-launch. To set expectations, that's highly unlikely to happen.
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BullSh**. Go look at change logs for AE and for AE 2012, they changed inputs in both of those for several characters.
I can't believe the Mega Man whining is STILL going on. It's bad enough that this game has Phoenix Wright; one of the worst possible choices for a fighting game.
I'm just praying that one day we'll maybe get an X-Men Vs SF 2 or at least an HD re-release.
X and Megaman ARE NOT the same Characters!!
X is the strongest Character in the X-Series AND he is the Main-Character. Maybe Capcom hate the Rockman X series.
Capcom is destroying everything.
DmC5-Design + Twilight Gay Style
SF4-Design
No Megaman or X in MvC3
SFxTkn Design + Gems
No Megaman X9 since 10 Years.
@41 Translation: Herpa derp I'm gay for Megaman and Dante herpa derp capcom sucks herpa derpa derp.
Yep that sounds bout right. I find it humorous that almost every Megaman fanboy has a complete hatred for Capcom. That's like me saying "hey I absolutely love my iPhone, I've had every model since release and it's my favorite phone ever made. But Apple can go F--- themselves."
Makes no sense whatsoever.
And believe it or not, The first "mascot" for Capcom was not megaman, it was Captain Commando. (see the first three letters in his names... seems to make the word "CapCom" doesn't it)
@45 I also find it funny that only Megaman fans actually believe he was. (Which he wasnt btw)
Mega man was out when hot games like mario castlevania Zelda and others were making names for themselves on the nes. Those games are around to this day but mega man hasn't changed much at all. They have to do something and stop slacking. Mm10 came out not that long ago but excluding him in mvc3 is a kick in the family jewls. I guess those 20 plus years meant nothing
So, my question is, why does EventHubs report on every little detail about Mega Man? Not that I mind, I like Mega Man, I'm just curious given this isn't a Mega Man site. Is it because he's an expected inclusion in these crossover games? Fans on the staff?
As I said, I'm a fan of Mega Man. I saw a couple of comments that seem pretty negative of the Mega fans. No, I'm not new, I know why. It's just that I saw several comments that pretty much read to me as "Capcom Defense Force". The current treatment of Mega Man aside, Capcom's been doing alot of things lately that should make anyone who calls themselves a gamer pretty put-off.
Why is it there doesn't seem to be much reaction here at there being a second MvC3 already? Why is it 5 forms of SFIV is welcomed? Capcom's a company, making money, and so on; you can make all the excuses you like, but it seems to me they're making some pretty poor decisions to get a quick buck and not really considering the long term. Of course, the more people who continue to give them money, the longer they'll do it.
For the record, I bought vanilla and I am planning to buy Ultimate, used, this week but I won't see Capcom get anymore of my money until they shape up their business practices. I'm not trying to start anything, just curious what the general feelings of these points are in this community.
@Koolbiird:
Erm.. Captain Commando was in existence before 1991. He was the first unofficial mascot used by Capcom USA in the 1980s. He's on the boxes and instruction manuals of games published in that era, before he got his own game.
He's on the back of the Megaman box >.<
Megaman became the next unofficial mascot and then Ryu, then Chris Redfield, but the main point is Capcom really has no official mascot. They have a logo, and that's it.
@InitialR:
Chris Redfield is actually popular over in Japan, so he is an unofficial Capcom mascot. There are Capcom logos with his outline the same way, we've had for the other earlier mentioned characters, so....main point like I said in my first post on this thread, is that Capcom has no official mascot. Just the logo.
Capcoms Corpate Mascot was
CAPTIAN COMMANDO
If you don't remember the 80's ads(BEFORE MEGAMAN OR CAP HAD HIS OWN GAME)
@52 and everyone else bitching about Megaman being the mascot
He's appeared in 50 games, but when was he named as Capcoms mascot? he was the icon but he was never accepted by Capcom themselves that he was their mascot. But I don't see anyone excatly putting down Namco for not putting out Pacman games or putting him in Namco based fighters.
I don't remember much of a big deal being made about him being included in TVC or MVC2 beside the fact that in MVC2 he was good with projectile pressure and pretty low tier in TVC but suddenly the fact he's out of MVC3 alot of people flip their sh!t. I don't care if Capcom left him out because guess what there are more interesting Capcom characters like Arthur, Firebrand, Ammy, Spencer, Phoenix Wright,Chris,Dante(who I personally hate his DMC 1-4 self and am looking forward to DmC but I still recongize that he's got more interesting stuff to show then Megaman),Vergil,Wesker, Trish or Frank. Not to mention that they have a variety of Long range and short range attacks ,which neither the original blue bomber,Trigger,nor X(until he get's the Z-Saber, which hey already have Zero for that), really have a real solid short range varied game.I dropped Starforce and EXE because I don't really consider those megaman as you can literally change every character's name and designs and not even think it as megaman if I did so if I didn't know it was a megaman based product. nor do either series they take place in the same universe as the other games.
ALLRIGHT, WE'VE BEEN REALLY NICE BUT THAT'S ENOUGH BULLS***. THERE ISN'T ANY BUGS THAT HAS BEEN FIXED ON STREET FIGHTER III : 3RD STRIKE. THE DISCONNECTS PERCENTAGE CONTINUE TO LOOK LIKE S*** AND IT STILL TAKES AGES TO GET A RANKED MATCH. IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE CAPCOM CREATED THE FIRST MATCHMAKING ENGINE THAT'S ABLE TO BRING YOU THE PLAYERS WITH THE WORST PING FASTER THAN THE ONES WITH THE BEST PING. HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?! CAPCOM USED TO SAY THAT THIS REMAKE WAS A LOVE LETTER TO THE LONGTIME FANS. WELL, GUESS WHAT? LONGTIME FANS DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT DLC. THEIR ONLY CONCERN IS CAPCOM STATING THAT THE GAME WILL BE ARCADE PERFECT WHILE IT CLEARLY ISN'T. WHY CAN'T WE UPLOAD TO THE DEDICATED YOUTUBE CHANNEL ON XBOX 360 ANYMORE? WHERE'S TWELVE'S VOICE WHEN HE USE SA3?
(I apologize in advance to the Eventhubs.com staff for that massive capslock comment. I tried to stay polite as much as I could but things needed to be said. Giving the fact that before SFIV came out, Eventhubs was a great place to learn stuff about 3rd Strike, I'm sure you guys will understand.)
Spider to go down the list of concerns...
You might just be getitng the people with the worst ping because there's a good 100 people trying to play so people with good ping(thus a good connection) might be getting matches faster then you can connect with them.
Also beside the SA3 Voice thing you didn't state how it's not arcade prefect. The thing is 3s OE is more prefect of a port in terms of actual offline gameplay in frame data and hit boxes then any previous port and while their are voical and graphical glitches(The 2P Aegis reflector color thing) if that really throwing off your game so much to the point you can't play I'm sorry but then you're being very particular and might need to remove that branch from your behind.
Dear Ex_Ein, I live in Europe with an optic fiber cable connection. How's my ping in your opinion?
I'm playing the game since it's out and in terms of actual offline gameplay, like you said, well I'm really happy with it. The way you can create matchmaking lobbies with your friends online is also great. But the Ranked Matchmaking feature sucks hard. I mean come on! Did you see it? There's no filters at all! You're just randomly put with the first opponent, regardless of his ping. It would be great to be able to choose the country and/or at least the level of your opponents like you're able to in SSFIV. And even with that, I'm currently at level 0 due to another bug (my previous level was 24), so...
About the arcade perfect thing, we could talk about the Aegis Reflector 2P color like you mentionned or about the size of the Super Arts that changed in this version for instance.
I'm not here to throw hate, I just love this game and think this port could be updated just a little more to do it justice.
this comment has nothing to to with the edition of megaman in umvc3
juuuudas capcom u even deny megaman ur flagship character his own right hahaha sounds fimiliar
Capcom is Mega Man your mascot.
Capcom: Mega Man!? Yeah right, who the hell is he anyways
many of the comments here are very hostile to megaman, i guess most of these comments come from ppl under 25, that proves capcoms new aproach towards megaman, new kids dislike him... is a shame that such an iconic character gets trashed like this capcom, we can understand him not being in a fighting game, but the recent events of cancelations and this kind of interviews from high ranking corporatives show a bit of disrespect to a character who probably sold more games than any other (street fighter series aside)
Capcom saying Captain Commando isn't their mascot is like saying he never existed. He's even named after them.
Also, I understand this has been said many times before, but Megaman has literally been in like 100 games, so why does he need to be in another one? I saw less people cry about how they killed off darkstalkers, than half of the people do about Megaman not being in UMvC3. I don't see anybody complaining about there not being any new final fight games either.
Pretty much all I'm saying, is that 80% of the people complaining about Megaman are FANBOYS. Most of you guys didn't even play him in MvC3.
What I would like, is if Eventhubs made a poll to see how many people want Megaman in UMvC3, write the usernames down, and then if he does come to UMvC3, see how many of those people actually use him often after a month.
@64
Im 38, well versed in who Megaman is, and have played almost every one of his games. I actually like the character a lot.
What I DONT like is incessant whining by people who cant get over the fact that:
1) Megaman is NOT and has NEVER BEEN an "official" mascot of Capcom no matter how much they like to believe it.
2) He was a horrible character mechanic-wise in MvC and Zero is a MUCH better replacement in MvC3. There's 50+ characters in the damn game. Find someone else to play. Also agree with what Cab says. I bet they would put him in the game, and 50% of the people whining bout him not being in the game would either not use him, OR continue to whine because he wasnt as good as in MvC2 or that Zero was a higher tier or some crap.
3) Capcom is a good company and has always made some of the best fighters. People can whine and complain all they want about them. They still play their games and keep giving them their money and (lo' and behold) thinks this gives them the right to whine about it on every FGC front page news site there is.
Boo-hoo I spent a whole $15 on SF 3rd Strike and I cant play online. We used to spend that in a DAY of playing any game in the arcade, AND we had to actually leave the house AAAAAAAND we actually had to compose ourselves and make friends/acquaintances to have people to play with. Today it's too easy to hop online, beat some stranger to a pulp, then say "later scrub" and go eat lunch. Take that away from some people, and it's like revoking their a$$hole permit, and it has serious repercussions. i.e. they come somewhere like here so they can vent their A-holeness somewhere because obviously noone else is paying attention to them. Wonder why that is...
@58
once you stated you hated dmc1-4 but looked foward to DMC you lost all hope of being taken seriously...
ppl forget that x was designed to be much stronger than zero, but then again capcom made it clear in the last few x games that they wanted to give zero the spotlight...sad times for us X fans
@67
I'd like to touch on your 3rd point. Capcom is really not a "good company". They're DLC happy, releasing unfinished games only to release another version later, and ignoring alot of old fan-favorite properties in order to push out 5 versions of the same fighting game. They do seem to do pretty well in the fighter department, the only one I've played that I didn't care for was Capcom Fighting Evolution. Still, that doesn't mean that they're a good company.
I rather think of purchasing a franchise product like voting. I bought a new copy of MvC3 because I liked MvC2 and wanted to support the furthering of the franchise but didn't buy Ultimate (I might be, but not new) because vanilla was a disappointment. I have not and likely will not buy any of the DLC. I am a bit bewildered by people continuing to support Capcom products if they're dissatisfied, though, but maybe there's just a very vocal minority.
The only thing that really ever bugs me about these MegaMan debates is how people resort to how he played in the games as a reason to exclude him.
MvC- MegaMan was upper mid tier and had quite a bit of damaging tricks to him.
MvC2- Downgraded from MvC by a lot. Lost his insta-Beat Plane amongst other things, but still ended up being upper mid. Does well against any character below top 15, and even has some good matchups in that regard.
TvC- I can't speak for CGoH, but I know in UAS that he was at the very least a solid mid tier whose only drawback was execution. Royal Flush does a good job in showing how he can easily go from keepaway to rushdown.
Lastly, they could always change him. MegaMan from the MvC series did not represent him as a character at all. When's the last time he required Eddie to drop down and give him an item to change his weapon? When's the last time he could only cycle between 3 of his weapons at once? Where the heck did Rush Drill, Beat Plane, and Hyper MegaMan come from? The only aspect of his style they got right in the MvC series was the jumpin an shootin, which ended up being one of his strongest tactics in MvC2.
Still, they could easily give him a makeover to further match his actual style in a way that translates well to the game. Frank West is the ultimate testament to this.
All other points for and against him are pretty valid with a good explanation behind them, but the gameplay thing has got to stop. It isn't a reason to keep a character out of the game. If it was, Phoenix Wright would NOT be on the roster.
capcom just keeps screwing keiji inafune over and over
again.
SNK FTW.
well I think they will put megaman as dlc whenever they do dlc which is gonna be awhile maybe sometime after sfxtk I for one dont care if he gets in I used him in mvc2 because I liked him and he was easy to use,now if this was clapcom megaman would be in
@ 67. i understand megaman missing fighting games, but its the whole picture that worries me... seems to me that capcom is triying to kill megaman, megaman universe? megaman legends (cant remember) both canceled, now in mvc3 they could at least put him as DLC , so that way they make some money from the ppl who like him/know him, but nope the didnt, instead they put some characters with much much less history and fanbase than him. so is capcom killing megaman?
@69
Every company is dlc happy, and Capcom is one of the least frequent offenders compared to some others out there. In fact I'd say over 3/4 of their dlc content comes from the whining of fans to begin with.
In fact I think it's funny how so many in the FGC do spout hate about Capcom and saying what a bad company they are, yet they are one of the few companies who actually listen to their fanbase (the ones who have legitimate issues to spout, not things like megaman crap), and try to cater to them which frankly, they dont have to do at all. They sell enough games without having to pander to the FGC who makes up an extremely small percentage of their sales.
One of the hottest topics right now in the FGC is the whole "esports" thing. One of the biggest reasons for it not being as "official" as some may want is, having been said by lots of top people in the community both players and TOs, is the fact that Capcom hasnt jumped on board with it.
Well why the hell should Capcom hop on board with eSports so a very small percentage of their sales base can make more money playing their game, specially when you come to a major website like this or SRK and all you see is people whining and hating on your company.
Not being a fanboy here, just trying to be fair.
But agree that those who are completely dissatisfied with the company should just stop buying their games and playing them, and move the heck on to something else instead of coming here and making their daily "omg crapcom" posts.
@73 Who cares if they are? It's time to move on from 25 year old characters and come up with something new and original. Video games are as bad as movies these days. Everything "new" is just something "old" with a higher number after the title, and not necessarily for the better.
@76 see that's my point right there. Move on to something NEW.
Take out Ryu/Ken
Add new characters.
MOST IMPORTANT: Call it something ELSE other than Street Fighter. (This is where most companies fail) I guess it's the old roll of the dice mentality. Why roll a fair die with a new game name noone is familiar with, when you can roll a loaded one that has your game name already stamped on 4 of the 6 sides.
@49 Zelda and Mario haven't changed much either dude, the only reason they feel different are because of their new 3D games, other than that they're essentially doing the same thing they've been doing for the past 25 years, Castlevania is just having a conflict with itself trying to determine whether it should go back to it's point A to point B games, stick with the Metroidvanias, and in terms of the 3D titles Konami is just confused at that point
Megaman is just one of those characters that people just assumed he was a mascot, but with good reason i'll admit i mean this guy is plastered all over Capcom's stuff the same way they used Captain Commando back in the day, despite how long it's been since we've seen Commando he's probably a better fit for Capcom's mascot than Megaman considering Capcom's name is inspired from the name of their character Captain Commando, now i'm not saying he is the mascot but he might as well be, if Capcom can just bring him back with an entire game series something could come about it i mean Commando's game in the arcades was probably one of the better beat em ups back in the day that for whatever reason got overlooked
Well if Mega-Man isn't the mascot , he sure as hell is the face of the company lol.
Ryu hasn't done s**t but sell out tourneys for competitive players & sell cheap updated titles , Mega-Man is a gaming icon , a measuring stick & has a legendary library behind him , he has touched the hearts of gamers all over the globe.
You just can't beat that s**t son. Real talk.
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@55 Owned by what? Tidbits I already know? Go brush your teeth troll.
@53 I'm aware of him in manuals with his pet monkey. BUT Cap's game was a FLOP. Capcom makes fighters, and pros talk about character loyalty; and he had 3 games (only a guess) due for releases and they got canned. I would be a little upset too. I'm a huge Jon Talbain fan. Morrigan is acceptable, but Felicia and Hsien-ko were and are annoying characters to me. I would love to see him or even Demetri. I mean, aren't Vampires and Werewolves all the rage?
@EDGEucator
You noticed how you used Icon not mascot when discribing him? because Mascot is what the COMPANY accepts as their Icon, Icon is what everyone else thinks is represents the company and even then that is false. Think about how Pixar uses Luxo Jr.(the lamp that comes out and makes part of their logo) but if you asked people what they think is the Mascot they'll probably say "Toy Story" in general
@theshredder39
You are correct sir
However Castlevania the 3D ones have been switching between the Metroidvaina styled ones(mostly IGAs team) and the point A to the point B(What Lords of Shadow did) just now in 3D.
@Boogityboy
They did try to get rid of Ryu and Ken in SF3 and people flipped, also it's easier to keep the Brand name then try and start a new one and if you start a new Brand you better have something that makes it's drastically different. If you're just gonna make a fighter of people with kinda special powers fighting in varied places across the globe and your names capcom, then why not just call it street fighter? but if you want to do something drastically different then that's when you give something it's own franchise what they did the Lost Planet, Okami, viewtiful Joe, Onimusaha and DMC and now with Dragon's Dogma. which is dealing with Fantasy in a new approach especially with their grapple system and damage overtime system which makes something like a mix of Skyrim and Shadow of Colossus.
@83
Whether the company accepts it or not , like you said , the importance of the character rests solely on the majority of fans(gamers) everywhere , which see him as the poster boy for Capcom. It doesn't need to be fact for the subject to hold importance/substance. If Nintendo didn't have a mascot , it would still be Mario , because he represents the best of the company & gamers embrace him like no other. Same deal with Mega-Man.
@#83 EDGEucator:
Nintendo has three mascots. Mario, Link and Samus Aran, all of them covering the 3 faces of Nintendo.
Although Samus has recently been getting hit with the abandoned child stick.
@EDGEucator
Again you're talking Icon, not mascot, they're different (as a person who's in graphic design, I can assure you THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT)
@Cab
SNK as a company but the(1 on 1) fighting games came out after the street fighter 1 because the SF and I'm sorry but people don't think Ozma wars when they think SNK they think about Mark of Wolves, Metal Slug and KOF.
@88
They are different. Like i & yourself have elaborated on in our post(s). & they each have their own level of importance.
A mascot is no more important than an icon at the highest level of relativity , the "people" choose to favor an icon and see that as the representative of "any" company.
Just a reminder , these companies would be nothing w/out civilized peoples input / peoples money , just so your aware , so you can see which one has more impact at the least in the long run.
Mega Man is a good guy