LU|Alex Valle is guest hosting with Gootecks this week on Cross Counter Live.
lol West Coast still so salty. Crying to Combofiend for vengeance after your boy gets bodied.
Stay salty West Coast.
I just found a glitch but dont know how to record it, Fei's ex chicken wing completely whiffs on ryu while he is doing hadoken at close range (face to face), but hits while ryu standing still doing nothing.
btw the new fei is disgusting
update:
Close range (face to face) as well as close mid range, it will whiff, it will also whiff on ken's hadoken and sagat low tiger shot (but this whiff before I think).
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@ 14 it was boring
No other guests.
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History lessons.
Jago had ONE match to play at Barfights, he played it, he won. End of story.
The people there wanted to put Jago through more matches until he loses just so they can talk smack.
Jago came to play Mike Ross and only Mike Ross. Combofiend and Jago are friends them not wanting to play each was understandable, it was Jago that called Mike Ross a fraud and he proved it. Knives only played Jago because COMBOFIEND said he didn't want to play Jago so knives step up to the plate. It's nobody's fault but Mike Ross for not training enough and Gootecks being an idiot and trying to stand up for mike when he shouldn't have
Period.
All west coast has is big brothers and whiny baby brothers. Stay Free & Salty
@23 Mike named out frauds in the first place on his show and he put Jago as one of them before UmvC3 came out. Mike played with fire and got burned. End of Story!
East coast can talk smack because mike ross lost a match in a game he doesn't play seriously, but until EC wins evo this is as close as you can get to taking out the WC, Combofiend already claimed he'd body jago in the last vid he did with ross, ross called jago out because jago acted an ass on his show. if he went in ross' world (SSFIV) a 5-0 would have happened in ross favor but this time he was in jago's land.now go finish praying to PR Rog
"he you watch his videos you see him drop everything hes literally having finger cramps the name is so appropriate"
"once you realize your no longer good in game you gotta become a personality"
"do you want to see a football player punch a baby?"
- combofiend
thanks merc I didn't feel like finding the exact qoute
For the ignorant that think Jago picked a fight with a little guy:
On one episode of CC Combo and Ross were naming frauds and the FIRST name to come out of Ross's mouth was Jago's. He said it damn near immediately. Jago didn't just "pick a fight" with someone less skilled than him, someone less skilled than him called him out and Jago put him in his place. This was Ross's fault and Ross's fight alone. IIRC The Famous Frauds vid came after Mike calling him out as a response. He may have thrown jabs at Combo but that was more of an insult to CC as a whole, his only true beef was with Ross.
Jago had nothing more to prove after that 5-0 against Ross and it was completely within his rights to deny anymore challenges. It was clearly apparent that neither Combo nor Jago wanted to play the runback match by the expression on both their faces. We are lucky he even played Knives.
West Coast wanted to see him lose and it didn't happen, so they wanted him to play until he did. The only real pussies here are the crowd at Bar Fights and all the people that want to see Jago lose.
I'm guessing people forgot about that episode of CC Live where Jago humiliated Ross live. He had a reason to be salty. Why would you go to an event just for one fight? Plenty of people were having casuals, and this was a community even, people wanted to see grudge matches. Combo would've bodied Jago, that's true, but it'd be fun to watch, and as long as Jago was humble about it, it would've been fine. I really can't stand people who take one victory and then run, just to show they can stay on top.
Jago was asked to shoot for the goal.
Jago was able to shoot for the goal.
Gootecks and West coasts gets made salty about it, moves the goal lol.
Stay Salty West Coast.
@34 Totally agree with you.
The funny thing is everyone is making excuses for a grown a$$ man. I like Mike Ross as a good a player but when you going around calling people frauds or claiming you are the best player around, someone will eventually take you down. Jago called him out and Mike excepted it and from there it was up to Mike to train to the fullest. There is no excuse "well Mike isn't great at UMVC3 like Jago, it would have been different if it was SSF4 AE' well sorry to break it to ya, it wasn't AE, they were playing it was UMVC3.
It was immature of the crowd to try an make Jago fight combo because their WC poster boy got salted in front of them, Jago came to fight Ross and thats what he did, you can't call him a wuss for turning down a challenge and besides Combo didn't want to fight either. Its like someone in class calling you out to fight, you whoop his a$$ and then the crowd gets mad because you won against the popular kid, so now everyone wants you to fight one of the toughest kid in the school out of revenge, what would you do? A) Fight the toughest kid in the school or B) Say f$ck that I came here to fight trash talking kid that called me out and I whooped his a$$, I am not fighting this other guy that has nothing to do with this beef.
I hope this was a lesson learned for Mike Ross.
bar fights was like a boxing event with a fight card.
jago trained specifically for mike ross before he flew out from NYC for bar fights.
it is okay for jago to refuse the combofiend fight. he did not train for combofiend.
all you salty west coast people. its like "oh you beat me, go fight my friend." wtf???
west coast are the real pussies. just hold dat loss.
@37 there is no way you can talk about maturity when your whole post is about some kid sh!t. the whole "rivalry" is immature, so how are you going to talk about who's immature or not. everyone knows its not real beef. its all sh!t talk and random bs. if you want to talk about grown man stuff you should not be in a video game site.
@43 yea i am that you couldn't you come up with something more original. iaintevenmad.jpg
all this east coast people trolling when all y'all did was beat mike ross, someone who openly he admits he's bad at the game, ohhhh y'all big $#!% now!
I don't give a damn about the EC vs WC rivalry. The fact is, Jago took shots at both Mike and Combofiend in the infamous "Famous Frauds" video and on WWHY. He should have been prepared to back it up. He already destroyed Mike and I give Jago props for that, but he backed down live on the stream and basically admitted that Combofiend was better than him.
I agree that he's not obligated to face Combo but there's 2 reasons I don't respect Jago's decision.
1) He called out Fuudo on WWHY for admitting that Daigo was better. Didn't Jago just do the same thing by admitting that Combofiend was better and that he couldn't beat him?
2) This is at least the 2nd time I can think of when Jago broke character and didn't back up his own smack talk. The 1st was when he went on CC and commentated on the "Beyond Gaming" match. He talked so much trash about the players saying things like "these guys are trash" and similar comments. Then when they put the winner on the phone, Jago changed his entire demeanor and was saying things like "You're GDLK". This just made Jago seem really fake to me.
#47 East Coast is trolling, the West Coast is crying about the situation. Look at all of the faces at the event, Gootecks had hyped his boy Mike Ross up, and Jago bought the Salt to the table for Mike Ross to serve it for his last meal. It wasn't east coast who demanded that Jago fight Combofiend, it wasn't wasn't the east coast crowd that was excuses why Mike Ross loss.
beating mike ross means nothing. Mike Ross can't even beat Japanese players in mvc3.
@48 rather it was live stream or not he called out Mike Ross and Mike accepted it and took a loss. It was Jago choice rather he wanted to fight Combo or not. Combo didnt want to fight Jago and if Jago wanted to fight Combo, Combo would have turned it down for several reasons. The pressure from the atmosphere from Mike Ross's loss would have messed him up and causing him to lose against Jago because he would have to not only avenge his fellow CC friend but have to prove something to the whole West Coast and Combo didn't want to do that because risk was too high. Combo wouldn't mind fighting Jago if he is fighting for himself and not because others are pushing him to do it.
Lol you guys should've seen Alex Valle's awkward face when Gootecks was sh*tting on Jago. Alex valle was like "uhhh yea ok....."
And normally Alex Valle sh*ts on people for running away...obviously this time is different since Jago actually gave props to Combofiend....use your brains people.
@52 Whether Combofiend would have accepted the match or not is speculation and somewhat irrelevant anyway because Jago denied the match before Combo even had the chance to speak.
I keep seeing people say "The WC is just salty" while conveniently ignoring the fact that shots were fired at BOTH Mike AND Combofiend. Emphasis on the word "and". The point I'm making is that there was a legitimate reason (the previous trash talk) for the crowd/stream wanting to see a "Jago vs. Combofiend" match.
Maybe I'm confused of what the definition of "fraud" and getting "exposed" is, but did anyone actually think Mike Ross was going to beat Jago in MvC3? Doesn't EVERYONE know Mike Ross isn't that great at the game? So if someone beats another person at a game that everyone knows said person isn't good, is that person really a fraud? How can you be exposed about something everyone already knew?
@55
yup hes a coward. Yall can justify Jago all you want but he has ZERO pride/integrity. Who the hell cares that he flew to WC to play Mike Ross? You called out BOTH people and you run like a B. People fail to realize that UMVC3 is not Mikes strongest game...BUT he still played. What happened when ppl started chanting Combo? He shrivvled up like a sun dried tomatoe. Fraud as hell...enjoy your victory over a not so good player..sooo well earned. I forsee Jago never winning any tournys cause hes gonna duck out the badasses in top 8. Oh im not here to play him GG im out.
@53 actually combofiend was the first person to speak so its not like Jago quickly said "NOPE IM OUT". combo was the first to look for a challenger in the crowd and knives went up.
I'm noticing some inconsistencies in the story and points of view, maybe because no one, neither Mike or Jago have a 100% integrity status, and that's the first thing we need to realize. Biasing is no the best choice, this is a low class conflict where other interests from so many people are also involved, in this case the event Barfights. I'm interested in what Mike has to said about it, I remember some weird phone calls before taking the decision, looked like it was up to someone's else to decide what was the best option, after that Gootecks said the fight was not gonna happen but they didin't know how justify this, then Jago said that "Im not in his level" sh1t and we know the story.
Maybe they're creating all this beef for the sake fo the FGC, and imo it's a good thing, rivalry is always good, better if it gets personal.
I algo agree with Jago not fighting (if it was his own decision), he won the event for what he was invited for, why to take his victory apart and be overshadowed in a match you're not prepared for. People wanted him to lose and he didn't give away his rights so, respect and props for him no doubt.
Stop making excuses for Mike, he trashtralked, took a challenge and lose horribly. He is exposed now, a good move may be changing that silly team and spend serious time in trainning. A professional can't afford to be exposed like that so easily.
you sir need to look at some fingercramp episodes and see how much Jago trash talks to. So what is it a double standard? He can trash ppl all he wants and dodge ppl...but Mike goes into a losing fight like a man and is called a fraud? Yet another point...MVC3 is not mikes offical game...so how is he exposed when he posts videos of himself doing horrible in it? We knew Mike would lose no surprise there. My point being Jago is ALL talk and no bite. If hes so "awesome" take all challengers and quit being a B
I don't know why everyone is bringing up this rivalry as if it all started with Mike calling Jago a fraud. Really, Mike only did that to get back at Jago in his own way for what Jago did. Jago came on Cross Counter Live and simply was a completely ***hole, to the point that it was hard to watch the episode.
I don't care who or what personality you are selling. If you are invited on to a show, you should be polite to the host. Jago was trying way way too hard that episode to be a jerk. That's why people have pointed out that Jago was talking down on the Web Warrior winner, but then being all forgiving when the guy was actually on the phone. Jago's trying to have a popular webseries by doing what's popular, having an extreme personality just to stand out. It's a questionable practice that works occasionally ( like the insanely popular Angry Videogame Nerd), but often is a turn off.
If you go back and watch that episode, neither Gootecks or Mike Ross knew what to do, yet they were visibly upset to be treated like that on their new show with such disrespect. The fact that Mike called him out after that was expected. Mike only even brought up being a fraud in Marvel simply because Ultimate was the big topic at the time. If 2012 was the big interest when he made that, he would have just as quickly challenged him in that, and probably curbstomped him.
I don't see how people can defend Jago when his behavior would be considered embarassing in the eyes of any halfway mature person.
b4 any1 asks.
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