A ton of insight into the changes the characters received in v2012 of Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition has been hitting the web this afternoon.C. Viper has a new anti-air :) EX Thunder Knuckle! EX Thunder Knuckle = answer for those midscreen neutral jumps people love to do when they are in defense mode against Viper.
Medium Thunder Knuckle seems faster to me.
Viper can now combo 3 EX Burnkicks in a row.
Seems like Viper recovers faster after whiffed ultra.
[She] can combo into EX Thunder Knuckle from close standing hard punch on counterhit.
WolfKrone has more videos up on his YouTube page showing EX Thunder Knuckle as an anti air and another combo. Also, there's an archive of Marn and WolfKrone playing online on Own3d.tv.
0ctopus0nFire showed a new Blanka FADC combo that's now possible in v2012.
Taaj did a clip highlighting some of the new combos Rose can do in v2012.
Capcom-Unity will be running a lobby and a stream at 2 p.m. today PST, where they will be giving out copies of SSF4 AE.
Haha yeah pretty much. I which my character had a change in tool usage like that. He got buffed anyway, even though he didn't really need any to be viable(Guile), but still it must be sweet. Something like FK » fadc » airgrab for example, or upsidedown kick overhead. Again I'm not complaining, all them nerfs for his bad matchups are an insane buff for him. Anyway, this post isn't about Guile sorry haha! I'm happy for MRN.Wolfkrone.
What nerfs did Viper get? I just thought it was 10 less damage on some moves right? I thought she was basically unchanged but I guess not O_O
That Group Home - Supa Star track! Well played mate on using that tune for that Rose vid :)
as a rose player, the viper matchup is still the same if not easier ;)
That Rose video was basic & 85% of those combos could be done in AE...
and MK-cr.HP was comboable on counter hit already, that's not new to v.2012 it's just easier to do in this version.
But to be fair, there's very little new stuff to showcase with her.
@19: Damn, that didn't take long. Same day as the patch, and you're already calling for another nerf...
Viper got the Wesker nerf...
Instead of getting nerfed, she got "nerfed"
Good stuff as always from Desk. Also tried out the new stomp kick by holding down toward + kick while in the air. Now that is so much better than having to keep pressing the down button. Chun seems better. Hopefully Vega gets some love too.
Heads up everyone just found out you can geni Jin after target combo 2 thats a nice buff better from doing it from combo target 3
@24
Nope yun is still good but not godlike I still hear people crying for more yum nerfs
The Rose vid at the end was mistaken, only EX Spiral was buffed to 120 all other versions are still 100
@29
That doesn't matter if the two top yuns drop em the fact is that he is still viable you believe everything the Japanese say or do a year ago mago and daigo said Seth is low tier look now kazunoko dropped yun for him it took poongko to realize Seth was top tier if mike Ross can get 4th place with a nerfed Honda in godsgarden it's possible
@ #19
Your brain dead if you think Viper is brain dead. If she was "brain dead" everyone would use her since shes "broken". She has some abusive tools but you need to know exactly what your doing and have excellent execution. Know the character before you complain about them.
@29
Makes sense considering everyone that the reason everyone maining was because he was cheap and overpowered.... good riddance
@26 Leave that salt at the door MALDA. This is SF we're talking about.
@19 lol braindead? Play Viper for awhile and get back at me.
Stay ignorant.
@nitrocan
I actually laughed at that vitriol. To whoever said Yun is garbage. He's not, he's just not auto-pilot God-tier now. People switching chars from Yun is that now that Yun takes more work, it's easier to get success with the chars that they were using before because they got buffed or are better fits for them now compared to Yun.
@19 you are correct, Viper is Op'd all of her moves are too safe. To consecutively do those seismos should always cost meter. She needed a Yun sized nerf there is no doubt about that I've been saying that for too long. I Tbh dnt care anymore I'm just so tired of the same game to keep coming out.
#29 Ever think that they didn't actually like to play Yun but they did to win because for them its about money? Especially Daigo was never a rushdown kind of guy, and since they were actually kind of forced to play yun, i can understand why they drop him day1 and are probably over there in japan, raising the Sake cups and celebrating the fall of that overpowered pile of feces. He got dropped, and he should have been made z tier to punish all those guys who jumped on the yun train and harassed all the guys that liked to actually play AE instead of cheat through it.
Chun did not receive any damage buffs to her special moves and ultras. However, I noticed that the previously godlike df.+lk has gotten back its SSF4 hitbox properties as it trades less on most of the jump-ins that I dealt withe using it. However, the move is still airborne so trades still don't allow Chun to follow-up. Her far st.hk seems faster too like vanilla fast. It's probably just me so hopefully other fellow Chunners can confirm these. Chun does seem to be a strong contender for top tier list in rthis version.
Well actually I'm thinking about trying Yun now that he's not OP. Since I didn't try the OP one, I won't see the difference.
#29 2 top players dropping him says something, but these guys win money with the game. Doesn't say much for ppl like most of us who play with their local community or online. My guess is that those who say that Yun and Fei ain't usable no more are the ones who used them just because they were OP. I personnaly like to work for my wins. I might be wrong though, just a guess.
I was using my main Viper this morning when I went into ranked! I love the changes. Viper Nerf Fail!? LOL