Niitsuma responded to more Twitter questions today where he talks about Heroes and Heralds, the upcoming patch and throw teching during recovery.Will the patch coming out before the end of the year include Heroes and Heralds Mode? - takehito_koiso
Niitsuma: Very soon I will be able to talk about [Heroes and Heralds], so please wait a little longer.
Oh, that's great to hear! One more question... will you be able to transfer data in the Vita version of the game? - takehito_koiso
Niitsuma: There are certain places where you can transfer data and certain places you can't. Please wait for finer details in an upcoming publication...
I have a question. During certain animations it is possible to escape from throws. How did this come to pass? - kuuronn
Niitsuma: That is a bug that appeared after we fixed a bug in the previous [Vanilla] version of the game. The fix will be included with the patch that is coming out before the end of the year.
Alerted to by an anonymous poster, translation by EventHubs.
@1
X-Factor Level 3 was already nerfed in Ultimate, it doesn't last as long as it did in Vanilla.
nerf that goddamn x-factor holy sh*t it's getting ridiculous if it stays the same in terms of damage and speed boost make it like 7 marvel second max (lvl 3 that is)i swear if they start nerfing and buffing nd nerfing and buffing again then FUKK THIS GAME i really like it but are they retarded to not see that x-factor is the problem? wesker without x-factor? come one he's good but nothing to B*TCH about like everybody did the past few day so if someone makes a comeback with ANY character without x-factor give them credit....sigh
Keep in in mind that some characters have stronger lvl 3 x-factor than others. Wesker get 170%(185% lvl 4) Ryu gets 185% and Strider only gets 150% just to name a few
I hate how throws work in this game. Certain characters like Hulk and Taskmaster constantly get accidental throw techs because they're always mashing f+H, making their best moves hard to punish.
Why can't we have two button throws like every other modern game?
@5
you obviously don't know how to play the game if you're getting owned by xfactor level 3 all the time. Maybe it's time you learned to use x factor yourself, or block mixups etc etc.
and aww man I kinda liked being able to tech grabs anytime I saw them go for it
I still dont *quite* get the griping about x-factor. The way I see it is, both players have access to it so, if you're opponent activates theirs, then simply use yours. Or, dont get hit and try to make theirs a waste. I
I wouldnt mind at all if it got nerfed, but I honestly dont mind the way it is now either. Just play smart.
2 most common XF3 scenarios for me, personally:
1) They get me down to my last character, at which point I XF3 and try to make a comeback.
2) I get them down to their last character, at which point THEY activate XF3. Sure they may KO 1 or 2 of my characters, but by the time my last guy comes out their xf3 is nearly expired, so I activate my own and have the advantage once again.
lol it was kuuronn who asked the throw tech question. I want to see more of his spencer hulk doom. I see no reason for him to drop any of them other than just personal preference.
#11
believe it or not most of the time i make the stupid x-factor comebacks but that doesn't change the fact that it's retarded.
but whatever dude your name s trollinhard and you write sh*t like "and aww man I kinda liked being able to tech grabs anytime I saw them go for it" after giving me SH*T?! and also you're saying all the pro players etc. don't know how to play the game, right?! because i see them get fuc*ed over by it left and right. facepalm bro, facepalm
People still cry about x factor? If youre really losing because of x factor, I hate to break it to you, but you're just plain garbage @ the game
I wish crossups werent so easy to get and fix the netcode so you block in time like in SF4 and SF3.
people still think losing to X-Factor = sucking at the game?! ... Eventhubs :D http://www.ice-dotcom.com/wp-content/...
THIS PATCH BETTER TURN DANTE BACK TO THE WAY HE WAS!!!!!!! >:(
Theres nothing wrong with X factor as it is now, the only issue comes from Wesker. WESKERS x factor is too good, just like how WESKER is too good as a character.
Get rid of the glasses buff. and make weskers x factor the shortest in the game everything else is fine.
Also, you can kill full health chaacters out right off of throws in this game. The guaranteed damage off of throw in this game completely warrents being able to always be able to tech throws no matter what. You think its ok for Doom to get three bars off of a throw with out anyway to get out of it?
I think people are up in a fervor just because they arent used to being able to tech any time. Nobodys saying that its not warrented, but people just dont like it because thats not how they did it before. Every character in the game can function perfectly fine with this. There isnt a single character whos entire gameplan revolves around air throws.
It really doesnt need to be changed at all
If I body two of your characters and there's barely a scratch on me, the match should be pretty much over. But with level 3 X-Factor, all he needs is one hit to even up the match. He gets a guaranteed touch of death off of that hit, and maintains all his momentum on the incoming second character making the next hit easy. That one hit should not erase the 6-7 hits that it took me to get to that point.
The nerfs to X-Factor did NOTHING. The massive speed boost is still there, and the damage is still high enough to guarantee a touch of death. Level 3 X-factor needs to be around 30%-35%, not this 85%-95% ridiculousness. This would also eliminate any problem with Wesker.
Just take out X-Factor full stop. Call it.... addition by subtraction, it would make fools work for their comebacks again!
@14
the difference is, it takes skill and insight to tech grabs, which is why I would want that in the game. Scrubs like you do mindless grabs and get tech'd son. Now as for xf3, EVERYONE has made an xf comeback so that doesn't make you impressive. Read @12. X factor isn't broken unless you're too stupid to know how to use it yourself. You're probably just mad some player consistently beats you with it and you don't know how to deal with it ha. ha. ha. 7 seconds? are you stupid? You must have actually been high when you wrote your comment dumbass
#22.
If youre losing incoming characters to one character in x factor 3, thats your fault, even with the speed boost, theres no character other than maybe wesker that can consistently mixup an incoming character before they hit the ground by themselves.
The people I play with are good enough that one character x factor 3 comebacks are few, and far between enough that you give them credit for the win and mixing the other guy up enough to make that possible.
It sounds like your problem is that you just let your 2nd and 3rd character get destroyed when your opponent pops the cherry, and dont do anything to defend yourself.
@27
"If youre losing incoming characters to one character in x factor 3, thats your fault, even with the speed boost, theres no character other than maybe wesker that can consistently mixup an incoming character before they hit the ground by themselves."
Not sure if serious.
LOL...everyone is a little pringles to Xfactor LvL3, so all you "fakers" acting like its not a problem are frauds... but if your losing to that often then you need to re-evaluate your game. The best thing to do is to learn what mix-ups every character has when they are attacking an incoming character, learn to block, and....LEARN HOW TO RUN WITH ALL YOUR CHARACTERS! That is your best defense against XFactor LvL3...LOL. That is my strategy and I hardly never get randomed out by XFactor LvL 1..2..or 3!
I thought they said before they made throw techs that way on purpose, since you can combo off of throws
look everyone who thinks X-Factor isn't a problem probably relies on it to win or make comebacks. It's a comeback factor SPECIFICALLY designed for people who are less skilled as a way to balance and or random out people who are better than them.
Pros have been randomed out by this many times. Saying that someone is a fraud for not being able to deal with lvl 3 x factor is stupid because EVERYONE, even top players, have succumbed to it atleast a dozen times. Do you know how many salty tears lvl 3 x factor Wesker, Spencer, Strider, Dark Phoenix, etc. have produced?
All you people talking about omit X factor need to think of one thing that makes that comment utterly dumb.
Happy Birthday!
Calling out an assist accidentally or not and they take a whopping amount of damage with the point character, it happens...often. That would make comebacks next to impossible.
All the aggressor with 3 characters left would have to do is play keep-away and chip for the win.
Some characters need less time with X-factor than others that's all.
@32, u act like pros never use x factor. People still lose after using lvl3 x factor. It's not anywhere near the free win that people imply it is. Nobody loses just because of x factor. More often than not, it just means your pringles @ss can't block
i dont play the game much, but from what ive seen from the CrossCounter matches, with combofiend, marn, mike ross etc. X-factor is a bit too much, it makes one mix up deadly.
ive seen last guy starting a combo, x-factor mid way, finishing enemy, new one comes in, defends first attack or something, gets hit, comboed, dead, third guy comes in, misses his defense midair, and he also gets pwned...
and i dont think these specific players suck. its easy to say "wait till its over" or "it does not make much a difference" well it kinda does, it only makes it so that any single hit will probably mean death....
i think x factor level 2 is nice as it is, if it was to be level 3 i mean, or maybe lvl 1 dmge with 3's speed.
not that i dont play this game all that much, but from what ive seen, it is too much.
I thought the throwing was a little ****ed up. I air throwed someone's Taskmaster with Chris and when I shot the ground he rolled out. Thinking I was slow, I air throwed him again, but Taskmaster rolled out as soon as he hit the ground. WTF? The throw glitch is seriously disappointing.
BTW, Level 3 X-factor is not cheap because both people are entitled to it. If you use it early and die later, it is your own fault, so don't drag other people down.
If that people who think there s no problem with XF-3 must be know nothing about game.
- I played aganist hundreds of awesome players.
- I did tons of mistakes and they killed my 2 characters
- I always keep my Wolvi or Wesker or Spencer or Hawkeye as the 3rd character.
- I activate my LVL3-XF (with Wolv/wesker/spencer..etc)
- They did only 1 mistake.
- And I killed their 3 characters in 10 seconds.
- They cant even activate their XF
- Because i always attack with SUPER SPEED/SUPER DAMAGE/SUPER HEALING sh.t THE LLVL3 XFACTOR
HOW THE F... CAN YOU SAY THIS IS SENSABLE?
All these players deserve to win
Since a Phoenix team can not deal max damage against opponents.... I wonder how useful a 4 second Level 3 X Factor would be to Phoenix....STFU cry babies, X-factor is part of the game mechanic in Marvel 3, getting rid of it, or Toning it down so much that its basically useless would mean capcom has to make other changes as well
Maybe if the X-factor mechanic is such a problem for U, just seems dumb, and game braking, you shouldn't be playing this game.....Go play MVC2 or demand MVC1 for this gens consoles
xfactor isn't the problem. its built to be a comeback mechanic and it obviously does its job very well. wesker is obviously the problem. even w/o xfactor his dmg is absurd (due to glasses buff) considering his high combo potential,strong mixups and various other tools.
wesker is OP and this past NEC is proof of it.Sure ppl can say that since its umvc3s "1st" tourney so ppl stuck to familiarity yet only prob with that is if that's true, why was wesker THE char 23 of the 28 top teams ran to?
cuz players knew.most of the tops were nerfed enough to require work to use except for 1...wesker.the only top char that only got better despite being the 3rd strongest in vanilla already. A high dmg,combo heavy char that gets a buff to both speed AND dmg? OP.Wesker needs nerfing.we know it and deep down his users know it but they like their easy wins so they can easily sit back and say "just learn to play the matchup scrub. *derp*".
Wesker needs the glasses buff removed.hell he can keep the speed portion of it just remove the dmg portion of it and nerf his dmg the way CC should have in the 1st place.Nerfing his health did NOTHING. it was a prob but not the main one.his high dmg output was always the prob considering his high combo potential. chars like dante & zero don't deal weskers lvl of dmg for a reason.
HolyGhost is it? Why don't you stfu and stick to a game like Zoombinis...Might I suggest you stay free?
@HolyGhost
We (the real adaptable, able to master a game for what it is and how it is, fighting game players,) Call you a crybaby, whiney, herp-derp, complaining, free, SCRUB.
You know that, right?
They should have completely normalized the damage boost and speed boost for all characters. This would include Wesker without glasses.
Example:
Lvl 1 = 125% damage and 110% speed for 9 seconds
Lvl 2 = 140% damage and 120% speed for 12 seconds
Lvl 3 = 155% damage and 130% speed for 15 seconds
Anyome who is not a pro...but tends to base every argument off well pro says this! And pro says that! Not only a scrub, but a wannabe scrub... And of course a pro can be a crybaby (including your beloved Justin)
Since patches are available now-days its nice Capcom can appease the whinning, but I will not call it by any other name crying for nerfs is crying for nerfs...
I take it you are new to fighting games, and want everything handed to you...well nope! X-factor was nerfed for u...and what u agree to be a better game...
Wait for Ultimate AE 2012...maybe it will take another hit, Cry Some More...That might work
Or go play Clay Fighters 63 1/3
@47
Thats very close to the actual duration of the weakest X-factor character in the game...Akuma
I mean Time wise Akuma...Damage stats wise Firebrand
@26 Comments like this is why I don't like the Eventhubs community. People can't even say their honest opinions about a system mechanic without idiots immediately going attacking them looking for blood. It's pathetic. Don't make assumptions about how someone plays just because of their opinion. It's like you trolls have nothing better to do but hide behind your little keyboards like cowards and insult people whenever you want. This is what happens when the Internet gives people an anonymous voice.
Go be stupid on your own time.
or how this for an idea? we take out the X-Factor and in its place we put back in what we saw in the first Marvel 3 E3 demos of the team aerial counters where instead of knocking the other guy away when guessed right you got the chance to counter and start an air combo yourself and try swap out your character but they still have the chance to counter and combo? That would balance it out I think and put an end to this huge reward for very little effort mentality.
Wesker's damage is sub-par compared to so many characters in this game; his damage was definitely significant in Vanilla with the DHC glitch and all but with UMvC everyone hits like a tank save a few characters, making his damage relatively average. Are the people that complain about Wesker's damage too stupid to realize Wesker's solo combos do around 600k while Cap does 725k or Spencer going to like 1mil? This is why Capcom won't listen to your "suggestions" because they are really complaints in disguise and we all know how Capcom feels about complaints.
Anyway, I love the idea of #52 but he/she worded it wrong. XF was an extremely balanced mechanic back in the very first E3 demos. The way it worked was it could only be used when you were down to your last character and its benefits were equivalent to the XF1 we see now. That is how it should have stayed.
Lol @ Wesker + X-Factor was broke.
Where were all of you in vanilla?
Wesker's level 3 X-Factor in vanilla was stronger than his "zomg level 4" X-Factor in Ultimate. No lie.
He's going to teleport. Get better at the game. Throw him out of it. Snap him in. Figure out how to cover your back. Stay out of crossup range. Super jump.
There are ways of fighting it, he's nowhere NEAR as broke as Wolverine or Phoenix in vanilla (hell, Phoenix is still better than him in Ultimate, just none of you have probably played a REAL Jean player).
#54 I play Wesker and even I have nightmares of my vanilla Dark Wesker victories. Vanilla XF3 Wesker was much more vicious, he was the true "Dark Wesker." I'm with you.
But unfortunately you are suggesting getting better at the game instead of complaining, why would anyone want to do that? Just sit around and wait for Capcom to nerf Wesker and then move on to complain about the next top contender :).
@MALDA
You hang out in UMvC3 threads a lot to hate the game as much as you do...it makes you look like an emo loser with no life...please tell me I'm wrong.
@#54 & #56
I don't know if both of you play with Wesker or not, but you both talk like you do, which is why you won't care about him. Losing to Wesker doesn't mean you are not good at the game, and complaining doesn't make anybody a scrub (if it does, that means every top player is a scrub, because they all complain a LOT unless they're winning)
My gamertag is the exact same name I have here, play me online. I'm not saying I'm better than any of you, but the only things I've found I can't constantly overcome is certain keepaway games, Wesker (depending on who I have left) and cheapo air throws that save people who can't open you up with skill (I don't care what anyone says, air throwing is weak, just like everyone considered throws in SFII). I name these as things I can't overcome because these are the things that have beaten me when I am playing against people that I KNEW I was better than. Air throws have beaten me more than anything in the game tho, and that's mainly why I hate Wesker.
THANK GOD they're removing the throw tech glitch.
I actually like X-factor cause everytime I see 1-vs-3 situation, I'd hope that x-factor will be activated and the match will become interesting again. A lot of characters can't do anything on their own.
The main reason to pick Wesker is probably cause he is easy to use and has a great OTG assist. Nothing else about him is unique and the glasses buff is doesn't change his matchups. Nerf one of those and there will be less people using him. But then again, you are nerfing a character because he is popular.
The x factor is a new mechanic of the game so that's that, I'm just happy there going to fix that throw tech bug, did you guys see Chris G at NEC? He tech out of ground and air throws like 200 times it was crazy. I am going to miss that z axis glitch though.
Guys, stfu on X-factor. He was talking about patching a bug not XF. And this was more about HvH mode.
Why do people only b**** about XF? There are other things to b**** about in this game.
#62
eh nothing constructive to say in thris thread just means you have way too much free time. Go play Hello Kitty Island Adventures where you will be accepted in the community...
Anyway, X-Factor itself does not need to be tuned down yet again since both players have it since it really depends on the wisest person who activates it. Wesker i understand can make people azzsore cuz he can be dangerous but honestly compared to vanilla mvc3 and especially mvc2 lolz the game is a bit more balanced and i mean "bit" but you know what people played mvc and other crossover games at first not becasue of tier lists and looking good but the interesting concept of picking your dreamteam of favorite characters lol i swear people play with wesker and half of them dont like using him but is still necessary to win as an excuse to use him. Want a balanced game? not a fanservice game like mvc3 which appeal to both CASUAL and HARDCORE alike (the casual part was why x-factor was added in the first place so people dont feel like its a hopeless situation 1 vs 3) then go play super street fighter 4 AE if you want a game balanced and fair to a reasonable extent. sorry to say this but there are alot more casuals who play this game then Hardcore and Capcom is a buisess afterall and makes the smart decision of appealing to the arger demographic. That is just a short take of what i felt about this and the previous commnets posted not aiming to troll people to feel secure over the internet.
#63 lol true that but the thing is it talked about the game ultimate marvel vs capcom 3 and the first word that popped in their heads regardless of the relevence of the article is that "x-factor wesker is bad" and takes one person to comment that to cause a chain reaction of ranting on xfactor and wesker to join the bandwagon to feel as if they have common allies of war lolz. looking foreward to H@H when it comes out eventually (they said it was post release dlc yet more delays but cant be heped so i digress.) due to adding a more unique/fun factor that adds more replayability towards the overall game so no complains about that.
Dont worry guys i E-mail CAPCOM on how to nerf Wesker. I told them take away his shades, his gun, his coat and his shoes i hope this helps
@51
you're probably mad cause you suck too, so it's okay. I bet you also believe xfactor is op or wesker is op. Grab a tissue, cry more. All I ever see you do is complain with no real input besides your scrub ass opinion. GET AT ME
@68 Actually, I did give an arguement to my opinion but it seems you're too slow to figure that out. See that's the difference between the big leagues and the p*ssies like you.
If he nerf x-factor lvl3 too, he will be my hero