Updated again: A stream archive of the festivities from late last night have been added into this story.Tip from Rafael2487 and Nyoro.
Area qualifier right now
Fuudo + Itabashi Zangief
Mahou Shoujo Zangitan AC revenger (Abel
Shiro + Shungoku Neurosis
the word on the street is Daigo, mago, tokido, sako ... are not going to SBO. Don't quote me on it.
Posted by xeraton on August 6, 2011 at 9:18 a.m. #13
How is the event "s--t"? Fuudo was there and he was evo 2011 champ
before evo you didn't even know who fuudo was... and now you talk like he is a common name in the fighting game community... as daigo said fuudo was the best that given day that's all.
Anyone a little bit interested in the japanese scene knew who Fuudo was. 2010 world game cup champion (beating Daigo in finals,), 2d best Ryu in SFIV in arcade BP rankings, 2d best Feilong now.
I don't really care if Daigo is not there, plenty of Yuns already in SBO (Kazunoko, Kindevu, Momochi...)
Mago may be the "2DGOD", but he is too inconsistent in tournaments, and Fuudo will be there with Feilong, so...
Too bad Tokido will not attend, but Eita, another beastly Akuma player, will be there.
SBO will be a hell of a tournament even without Team Madcatz. If they did make strong result at EVO, perhaps I would see things differently, but...
@#16
Anyone that takes the slower, defensive approach gets labeled as "Boring to watch". Not like ryu used to be cause he still is generally a boring character to watch. People need the flash and high pace things to keep ahold of their short attention spans. And that anti-climatic Evo grand finals didnt help(the crowd hype compare to the previous matches speaks for itself)
Im a victim myself for having that short attention span and not to mention just about every street fighter before hand played at a faster pace. As one of my whiny friend like to say "i play fighting games to fight, not chase people around all match, i got COD to deal with people shooting things at me"
@#10
What kind of excuse is that? Sounds pretty dirty, isnt SBO in japan so whats the big deal with japanese players not attending their own big tournament? Thought the main part of tournaments was for the learning experience. Sounds very fishy if that is the real reason. Team madcatz can use the sharpening especially mago(seems to choke during tournaments)And SBO being more rigorous, wouldnt it be a good testament of skill, or they dont wanna run the risk of getting exposed for not placing thus cash payout isnt enough.
Mago is inconsistent? He is one of the most consistent tournaments. He didn't do well in this year's evo. Other than Daigo, I don't see any player is more consistent than Mago over the last couple of years.
We won two Godsgraden(1 online and 1 offline).
He won two international tournaments in Korea. 2nd at Canada cup, 2nd in Revelation only because Daigo was there.
You see Tokido won more in US because went to more US tournaments without any jp player. Poonkgo is more inconsistent. He did well in the last couple tournament, but we will probably not going to see him win anything. I never see latif won any big single tournament. I think he only win in local tournament. J wong is probably consistent player in US.
Team Madcatz has two players in top 8 at evo. that's not strong showing? I think team madcats have players in top 8 for all the games at evo.
Eita is not going to SBO. he wanted to, but SBO is not evo. Not everyone can go.
@#21
Alright i hope that was a made up reason, dont need sponsors to appear shady like that. Yea SBO single elim is harsh, but shouldnt the players want to push themselves though? The americans are still trying to prove themselves despite the format.
I'm at an internet cafe and one of the people here said that he thinks that Fuudo's online ID for SSF4 was either "HebolianSoldier," "mayas2," or "Ryukichikun."
He says that he thinks that because all three those Fei Longs have displayed online gameplay skills that are almost, or just the same level, as Mago's play. And that Fuudo most likely have played throughout SSF4's day in order to maintain and improve upon his skills.
Can anyone either confirm or disconfirm this guy's speculations about Fuudo being any ofthose three????
Matter of fact, does anyone here know who Ryukichikun is????
I ask because Ryukichikun used to main Ryu during SSF4 and he switched to Fei Long only a few months ago. The fact that Ryukichikun mained Ryu fo so long makes me suspect that out of the three online Fei Longs, he's most likely the one to be Fuudo.
But that's just speculation on my part. I don't have any solid facts about Ryukichikun is so I'm wondering if anyone else here does.
@ spotlesseden
Momochi has had better performances the last couple of years in SF than Mago, and he has done it with more characters.
3S SBO 2009 champ - Makoto
SF4 Japanese National 2010 champ - Akuma
SF4 SBO 2010 champ - Akuma
SSF4 his first tournament in America where he breezed through winners only to lose to Gamerbee - Ken
SSF4AE Shadowloo Showdown 2010 2nd place - Yun
SSF4AE EVO 2011 17th place - Yun
Daigo, Mago, and Tokido haven't won anything in SBO or the Japanese National tournament the last couple of years.
The event will be sh-t without Daigo, Mago, Tokido, Sako... why? They're not even the best players for the characters they play.
Kazunoko > Daigo
Fuudo > Mago
-6 > Tokido (although no Akumas have qualified for SBO)
Iyo > Sako when it comes to Ibuki (no Ibukis either as far as I know)
Nemo > Sako when it comes to Yang
Only draw back will be over representation of the twins, Yun especially. Maybe Fei Long as well. But you also have great players like Kyabetu (C.Viper), Michael Tan (Ken), Haitani (Makoto), and Amiyu (Gen) attenting, oh and Mike Ross, to name a few.
@ 29
Fuudo winning EVO doesnt make him the better player, I'd say they're both even...Fuudo has better reads but Mago has much better execution.
lol @ -6 > Tokido....Tokido is much better. What has -6 done in SSF4? Heres a recent match of his vs Roxas's Seth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3fz1...
Sako is much better then Iyo with Ibuki, Iyo gets blown up all the time. Just watch his replays on Youtube.
@31
Based on my observations. I think that Fuudo's better than Mago at playing the footsie game and both of them are about equal when it comes to playing the pressure game.
The only thing that Mago outshines Fuudo at is that Mago more consistently lands the Chickenwing-->St.Hp, which is a 1 frame link. But asides from that one 1-frame link, Fuudo can connect all other Fei Long combos with as much consistency as Mago can.
I think putting it all together, Fuudo may in face be better than Mago. Fei Long is not a character that specializes primarily in rushdown and relentless pressure. Fei Long is actually more of a footsie based character than a rushdown type character. If I can give a roush estimate, I would say that Fei is around 60% footsies and 40% rushdown when it comes to offense. Compare that to Yun who is like %80 rushdown.
At both Evo2k11 and the Fei Long mirror match at Topanga, Fuudo has shown that his footsies game is much better than Mago's. Though they do seem to be pretty even when it comes to using Fei to pressure.
I would have said Fuudo is better than Mago before Fuudo even won Evo. Iyo doesn't like his matches to be recorded, but many Japanese players consider him one of the best players in AE. Sako is an execution god, but his tournament placings outside of the Godsgarden online tourney don't live up to the hype. Anyway, it's kind of impossible to determine which player is actually better than another (is Latif a better Viper than Wolfkrone? Hard to say). My point was, there are players on Daigo's, Mago's level etc., if not even better than they are who are attending SBO this year. Madcatz crew and Sako still have a chance to make it SBO, there are still 2 slots left for Japan, but the tournament won't be worse if they're not there.
@fireinthehole, I looked up those two other Feis, they don't seem like Fuudo to me. Fuudo may not even play online, and if he does it's probably PSN because Fuudo plays on PS3 mainly from what I heard.
@#20, 21
I didn't, i heard it from Ken Bogard. The reason why is quite obvious: sponsors are there mainly for marketing reasons. More cash prize means more prestige, so more audience and thus more income for their business. They're in for the $$$ first, not the community.
I do wish that SBO adapts the US brackets since that 1 loss you're out is just too harsh. I kinda wish that would be the universal bracket for FG tourneys.
@27
3S SBO 2009 champ - Makoto
SF4 Japanese National 2010 champ - Akuma
SF4 SBO 2010 champ - Akuma
SSF4 his first tournament in America where he breezed through winners only to lose to Gamerbee - Ken
SSF4AE Shadowloo Showdown 2010 2nd place - Yun
SSF4AE EVO 2011 17th place - Yun
most of them are team tournaments. it depends on which how you look at it. team tournament or single.
The one that i list are single. Mago won Godsgraden 1, Godsgraden online. The Asian Cup in Korean that i talked about. Mago beat momochi in the final.
http://youtu.be/z1JOIaY6QUQ
Mago also won the similar tournament a year before that beating momochi in the semi final at SF4.
Mago finish higher than Momochi at evo.
Kazunoko is better than Daigo because he usually gets the better of him in mirror matches. Also, higher level players have more of a problem with him than they do Daigo. I could care less about ranking points. I've said my piece, don't care to argue the finer points anymore. I'm out
Well, in this episode of KSK's Kao TV: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/15732663 Kazunoko is a guest.
A summary of what he says about Umehara:
- About matches against Umehara: "I lost more than I won."
- About Yun's Genei Jin Palm Strike loop: "Since Umehara-san doesn't do it, I don't do it."
- Using the same character (Yun) with Umehara: He doesn't feel they are competing, since he thinks Umehara is at another level.
@K
What are you talking about? -6 > Tokido? Kazunoko > Daigo?
What makes you think they're better...because of the long list of tournament victories that -6 has under his belt? Oh, he hasn't...because Kazunoko won more prestigious tournaments than Daigo? Oh, he didn't!
"Kazunoko is better than Daigo because he usually gets the better of him in mirror matches. Also, higher level players have more of a problem with him than they do Daigo."
Lol...you're such an insider..."Higher level players have more of a problem with him than they do Daigo"...yeah, they told you so?!
did i... miss it o_o