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Angry Joe rants about Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

Posted by Who Is Alpha • August 5, 2011 at 7:30 p.m. PDT
Angry Joe uploaded a new rant to his YouTube channel talking about Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. He goes over some very good points as he expresses his extreme distaste for how Capcom is going about selling their games. Be sure to turn your speakers down by half if you have them all the way up.

Tip sent in by Mangosentennial, Snow, YTPHaruko and WorldWarrior2.

Comments

hugeratjar said on August 5, 2011 at 5:52 p.m.

i have been watching angry joe since the the rant on duke nukem. and he is right on almost every single point =/ most likely i will end up buying this game and trade in vanilla mvc3 although i will get peanuts for it but oh well .

#1
Reizo said on August 5, 2011 at 5:54 p.m.

I've said all I needed to say in the youtube comments already...

#2
DAVIDSIRLOIN said on August 5, 2011 at 5:54 p.m.

Angry Joe? Really? You're giving attention to this autistic manchild who throws temper tantrums over video games?

This isn't even Capcom related news, you're just putting money in his pocket by giving him free views for crying about Capcom doing the right thing for the consumer. Don't encourage this type of behavior, please.

#3
firecotton said on August 5, 2011 at 5:59 p.m.

@3
They did the right thing for the consumer? Wow, just wow. Announcing a update after 5 month isn't really doing anything for me. I love Capcom, but this is just plain stupid, he has some valid points even though he doesn't know anything about fighting games at all.
MvC3 was less than a shi**y demo or beta, now they are going for the full release, which isn't even great to begin with (yet better than the first one)

#4
apotropaic_puppet said on August 5, 2011 at 6:03 p.m.

This is my first time watching this guy...I can't even make it through half the video because his voice, mannerisms, and unneeded screaming irritate me...Does he really need to scream? =.=
And who is he to say "Spectator mode should've been in the first MvC3?"
Capcom runs things how they run it, and of course I, like a lot of others, don't agree with it, but to say that something should've been in there when you aren't part of the design team making said game is just ignorant. Work for the company then pitch the feature, that's how the industry works. Don't go around saying that it should be in there because if you don't work on the project, you shouldn't be saying what should and shouldn't be in there.

#5
hadokendj said on August 5, 2011 at 6:04 p.m.

@3
STFU!!! this is capcom related cause it's about this half-way decent game You're just mad cause everything he said was true

#6
Mangosentennial said on August 5, 2011 at 6:05 p.m.

I accidentally spaced my username when I submitted this lol

#7
novaxxblaze said on August 5, 2011 at 6:06 p.m.

it was funny to watch and hey every person will still have their own veiws on weather he's right or not but i can say that almost 75% of people that play this are completly hype about the new game and that is true plus this guy just said what he thought about the game from an outside point of view it has way and i say that lightly ,more things in the game then the first one and regaurdless of anything just like people loved MvC3 they will love this edition also and on top of that what better way to make a game better than releasing it and getting peoples view and then fixing whats wrong just like they did with sentinel at first. i know that i cant wait for this to come out!

#8
Mikeydactyl said on August 5, 2011 at 6:09 p.m.

I didn't even have to watch it to know what he was gonna b*tch about. I know its too soon to release an update to the game, I know spectator mode should have been there in the first place, I realize that we should have gotten more content for our money. But honestly, I don't care, I have far too much fun with this "incomplete piece of sh*t" to care. The more content added to this game the better. I know I'm in the minority and I'm not telling you to agree with me, but honestly, I can understand both points of view.

#9
DrewGrimey said on August 5, 2011 at 6:10 p.m.

He's right

I won't be buying UMVC3 because the orignal was so incomplete and really felt like a beta version of the game

Buying UMVC3 is basically rewarding capcom for the horrible job they did with the original.. They could have fixed the netcode and send out a free rebalance and even patch in spectator mode but they didn't because they figured they can resell the same game less than a year later right before Christmas

#10
Sonson said on August 5, 2011 at 6:12 p.m.

These things are always funny, but I don't like how he tends to "speak for everyone" when my own personal opinions are generally completely opposite of his

#11
DrewGrimey said on August 5, 2011 at 6:16 p.m.

It is funny how some people are happy that capcom is doing this.

It's cool to be excited about the rebalance and new characters... But Damn! atleast be salty about there sales tactics and how they got you hooked!

#12
SsjBizzle said on August 5, 2011 at 6:19 p.m.

#5, they promised us Spectator mode for DLC dude lol. They broke that promise.

I haven't even watched further than 3 minutes and I know he's gonna be completely right about EVERYTHING, since I did see his first video and I also agreed on everything.

If you guys look past him shouting and stop trolling you'd know Capcom is milking our money once again. Not saying I wont buy it, but I got pissed for a reason too. Still am. He's not just a troll, he does bring out some facts -continues-

#13
ultrapowerlevel said on August 5, 2011 at 6:23 p.m.

Not buying it.

@Capcom

"Don't neeeeeeeed it" :)

Also they know Mega Man X will sell most DLCs or another edition of the game so they will put him in next time along with 5 others and say
MAXIMUM Marvel Vs Capcom 3 like MvC2 56 characters MAX.
PLUS MEGA MAN X! Yay.... well, I'll get both those games but through..... ahem piracy. Cuz Capcom already has my $60.

#14
Shine3rection said on August 5, 2011 at 6:24 p.m.

I love how most of the points he made Capcom already addressed. Such as saying they were adding more solo modes, and they said why they couldn't add spectator mode, and they've made a way for it to work. Honestly, if we don't buy it guess what happens? They stop making fighting games. His whole stop buying and they'll release it in different ways idea is bullsh-t.

#15
chickenwings said on August 5, 2011 at 6:25 p.m.

hes 100% right. WHen u compare ssf4 to umvc3 theres no contest. ALSO, it was about a year or so after we got the console verison of sf4 that we got an update but with mvc3 we are geting an update within months of the original(that just tells me that mvc3 was a beta that they pushed out to cash in).

People are free to spend there money as they see fit, but they have to open there eyes and see what capcom pulled with mvc3. I feel that its disrespectful to the fans.

#16
novaxxblaze said on August 5, 2011 at 6:31 p.m.

its funny how people complained about mvc3 and noe capcom puts it in umvc3 and people still complain you guys only takes the joy out of games for yourselves when you act like that are you gonna be the same way with SFxT ?if so then just stop buying there games completly and if you dont agree with that then just deal :)

#17
chickenwings said on August 5, 2011 at 6:31 p.m.

@15

that isnt true. They know the interest is there for fighting games so they WILL continue to push them out(we still have sfxtekken, were supposed to get a darkstalkers and ono wants to do another alpha and u know there already thinking about sf5). By NOT buying it we send them a message, either they give us a solid product(like ssf4) or we will spend are money else where.

#18
apotropaic_puppet said on August 5, 2011 at 6:33 p.m.

#13 I love Capcom. Ever since I was little, and again I don't like the fact that they're milking us again, and I will definitely buy UMvC3, but ever since DLC became a big thing, almost every major gaming company is using it to their advantage. They realize that with putting out an "incomplete" game, they can make even more with extra content. So don't get mad at Capcom. Get mad at DLC. :P

When old games like Street Fighter and Darkstalkers came out, those games were complete by our standards because they added everything they could and wanted to. Nowadays, why bother finishing it all at once and get only make a profit only once?

#19
Kuai said on August 5, 2011 at 6:35 p.m.

Must suck to be poor and not able to afford 40 bucks for a game. Cry more kids.

#20
chickenwings said on August 5, 2011 at 6:36 p.m.

@17
They promised us that they were gonna support the game with dlc with characters etc throughout the games lifespan, but the game didnt last 6 months before they annouced a new verison. Do u NOT see a problem with that?

#21
Batsu said on August 5, 2011 at 6:37 p.m.

Why is this front page news? This guy sucks and isn't right about on any of the points he's made. This is something SRK would put on it's front page, not cool (still love'ya SRK).

#22
SsjBizzle said on August 5, 2011 at 6:38 p.m.

We paid 60 bucks for what? 35-ish characters, dozen modes, several stages, a completely new game, new experience, new teams w/e.

Now we're paying 40 bucks (Almost FULL price) (As joe mentioned) FOR:

- Spectator mode (Was promised to be free in MVC3)
- Stages (As mentioned..wow.. >>)
- Balancing ..(Should be free, look at MK9..If somethings broken its not our damn fault...)
- Better netcode (SHOULDA BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE)
- 12 characters where most only know 40% of.

SSF4 As mentioned by him: 4 NEW BIG ONLINE MODES/FEATURES..new titles..new everything...+ 12 chars. + IT ALREADY HAVING SPECTATOR MODE + IT ALREADY HAVING DECENT ONLINE :D

They are making more money this way than if this was DLC. I don't even believe the story about their DLC being lost tbh lol. 12 chars = 60 bucks yes, but the majority im sure would buy a max of 4 characters over the yearsssss.

Example: I like Shuma's gameplay, but I dont know or care about the character itself and I like to play chars I know so I didn't buy him nor do I think its worth the price. Im sure most did the same. Now we CANT pick lol. Not saying I wont get it tho, since I have every new fighter, just incredibly pissed. It sucks cause I know everyone will buy it

#23
chickenwings said on August 5, 2011 at 6:38 p.m.

@20

"a fool and his money are soon parted"

remember that the day u wake up in a cardboard box.

#24
Riot said on August 5, 2011 at 6:39 p.m.

This guy is a moron. Only poor people complain about spending 40 dollars for what's really a pretty good deal.

#25
SsjBizzle said on August 5, 2011 at 6:40 p.m.

I know I just repeated everything he said lol, but I said it before his vid. too! ;_;. And no im not a hater, im just a fan thats annoyed.

Although w/e. I get tonnnnnnnnnnns of hours out of my 100 dollars = 160 Euros (Dammit...for the same damn game lol) so it is worth the price. I bought games for 60 bucks that I played for an hour or two

#26
chickenwings said on August 5, 2011 at 6:41 p.m.

@23

dont forget that there giving us ssf4ae2012 FOR FREE.

#27
Dragoomba said on August 5, 2011 at 6:41 p.m.

Haha *********.

I bought MvC3 and will buy UMvC3 and enjoy it.

#28
BeUnbound said on August 5, 2011 at 6:42 p.m.

His anger is valid but myself being a huge fan of fighting games and also being a fan of the competitive scene for these games, I can't see myself not buying it. Mainly because top players who are already so invested into vanilla MVC3 are most likely going to play this game.
For the most part online features are for the casual scene and I am disappointed in capcom in that front. But generally speaking top players don't care about online features, as long as it is lagless as possible and spectating(which I completely agree that should of been in vanilla). However I am more focused on the rebalance, new mechanics concerning X-factor and new character viability.
And in my case paying a total of 100+ dollars for something I can literally invest hundreds of hours into and hundreds of hours watching doesn't feel like the end of the world. But all in all Ultimate is not a great expansion and is definitely lacking key features recent fighters have already incorporated. But this does not get me less excited about how Marvel vs Capcom 3 evolves in the competitive scene.

#29
Von_Kunlun_BOOF said on August 5, 2011 at 6:42 p.m.

This is all true. I remember when I got MvC3 the day it came out and a few days later I took a step back and saw how dissappointing of a game it was. I began telling my friends "Yeah it's a fun game, but don't buy it unless you can get it for $30 or less. It's definitely not worth the $60."

It SHOULD have had spectator mode. I still have no other idea of what to think other than it being some sales tactic to charge us for more money. That was one of my BIGGEST dissappointments for MvC3. If you have anything to say otherwise about that, then you probably don't have any friends. That's the truth; you can't deny it.

Other than that, I pretty much agree with everything he said. Capcom seriously pisses me off with their fan milking. I really don't see how their fan base doesn't get angry. I mean, they're taking advantage of you.

#30
DrewGrimey said on August 5, 2011 at 6:43 p.m.

lol #25 look up one comment

#31
novaxxblaze said on August 5, 2011 at 6:44 p.m.

@21
yes there is a problem with that but what can you do? as a fan they ,being capcom will listen and try to give you what you want but making a game perfect for all players isnt easy at all for example if you were a phonix player you get mad just to see her nerfed in this game but people who arent are happy to see that the problem isnt with the game its with the gamers who can never be pleased also know that mvc3 was actually supposed to come out when umvc3 is coming out and why did they relase it early? because us being the fans couldnt wait and became complelty impatient for the game so again dont blame capcom blame the people who couldnt wait AKA people who ripped the game files and started to disibute them early

#32
GideonWins said on August 5, 2011 at 6:45 p.m.

'He's RIGHT'! No, he isn't. Infact, he has no place to go on a dumb internet rant. Its a business model that capcom favors. We all bought SSF4 and were all going to buy UMVC3, but I mean, ok, you dont HAVE to, and if it bugs you that much then don't. An incomplete game? Its tournament viable, everyone is useful and ok, no spectator mode. Is that seriously that big of a deal. @22. As blunt as he was, he's right. You know how much COSTUMES and CHARACTERS are in Capcom games, so you would rather bitch and moan omfg this game is taking too long to come out, or would you rather shell out well over 40 dollars for all the character stage and dev DLC. They remind me of Apple. Do you want them to release all iPhone 1-5 at the same time. At the end of the day its a business. And they run it to make money. Be happy you get 12 new character 8 stages and a bunch of game changes, for 40. sorry, but I hate it when people complain about an unfinished game, thats just ignorant and stupid

#33
SsjBizzle said on August 5, 2011 at 6:45 p.m.

#14 : Oh yea Megaman is gonna be in FOR SURE. If its by DLC for 10 bucks for him lol, or for a new version, or in this version as a surprise

#34
Sev7enEleven said on August 5, 2011 at 6:46 p.m.

Okay. I'm gonna give counter-points to as many of his points as possible, in a manner as concise as I can make it.

FIRST and foremost, lack of content:
The fact of the matter is, CHARACTERS AND RE-BALANCING ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER TO THE HARDCORE SCENE, PERIOD.
If I could trade spectator mode for a new character, I'd do it in an instant, and I think I speak for the majority of the tourney community when I say that.
12 new characters is FAR better than the idea of 4 new modes and 8 new characters.

Him saying "6 of the characters suck" or are "useless" is obscene, he clearly hasn't played any of them (Save perhaps the ones playable at comic-con and EVO)

The idea of balancing through patching is a slippery slope, MK9 has had constant balance patches, though the tiers are still obvious. A perfect example is MVC2 Sentinel, at first he seemed sluggish, and difficult to play, but once people dug deep, they found he was an INSANE character.

You have to let the community try to play things the way they are before patching, so they can discover what is actually wrong with a game, you have to be as sure as possible something is wrong before trying to correct it.

The lack of replay channel is hardly even an issue, anyone who has an internet connection probably won't use it anyway (Why not just watch pro matches on youtube, with commentary?)

Sure, there were "56" characters in MVC2, how many of them were playable?

Capcom has said the retail release is due to the current crisis in Japan, though this could be untrue/a marketing ploy, I'll concede that point.

Perhaps a version of Megaman should have been added, but I believe Zero fills the slot well enough.

#35
xRELLIKx said on August 5, 2011 at 6:46 p.m.

Sorry but this is fail, 15 mins to know stuff I already know.
And the whole cop-angry-video-game-nerd thing is getting a little old -_-

Not too mention the only bad thing with UMVC3 is how it's coming out too soon, not so much which features.

You guys need to learn to simply turn the other cheek instead of making this bs 15 min video and paragraphs.

#36
samuraix025 said on August 5, 2011 at 6:46 p.m.

theres a new assassin's cred every year, theres 2 call of duty games a year, theres a madden every year, by now how man versions of kingdom hearts have you seen?

better yet, how many versions of street fighter 2 do you own that you or your parents paid full price for?

we've waited 10 years for new fighting games from capcom, 10 years people screamed about things being broken in MVC2 wishing there was an update where things can be fixed.

now with SSF4 and MvC3 capcom has the ability to do so, sure they can do like 2012 and update it freely, they did a similar update when super first came out. but with those updates there were no new characters.

with mcv3 there are 12, one of which is strider, the reason I place the first 2 MvCs and it roughly have the price of the game i first got, and if theres a dlc version that will be 15 bucks just like SSF4:AE.

I see nothing wrong with what capcom is doing, they need to make money to make games. and street fighter being successful again, having 2 million total viewer during evo is a dream come true.

because of that love of the game we may be seeing Dark Stalkers next year, we are getting SFxT. and capcom has faith is the genre once again.

now for all the naysayers go find all your copies of street fighter and try to spell "hypocrite" with them. use the extras to make exclamation marks.

#37
MonkeyCha0s said on August 5, 2011 at 6:49 p.m.

I found it funny reading the first sentence of post 16 right after reading all of post 15.

but yea captain america has a double jump.

#38
Grimmjow316 said on August 5, 2011 at 6:51 p.m.

I'm not buying it could care less but game was unfinished it's a shame they are getting away with it instead of flooding Ono's twitter they should flood these guys for that bs. Especially after the excuses they kept coming up for the first one as too why this and that mode wasn't included.

Which leads me to be hesitant about SFXT since you don't know how finished the game might be.

#39
rogueish1 said on August 5, 2011 at 6:51 p.m.

I agree with the general point of the vid maybe not everything but most of it.
The fact is consumer is king and the only time consumer isnt king is when they give away their power to be king. I wont be buying umvc3 because it was 5 months ago. Thats pretty ridiculous, its not crying its making a choice and standing up for what you believe in. Money isnt the issue its quality is I was one of the people who played mvc2 for 10 years I bought 2 dreamcasts for it and the game 2 times plus I bought it on ps3 plus I bought a joystick. 40 dollars is nothing compared to what I spent. Anyone thinking that he complained about a 40 dollar price tag is a fool. He is complaining because they took what they promised to be DLC and is jacking up the price to make even more money off consumers who have been more than generous period.

#40
Ice9 said on August 5, 2011 at 6:56 p.m.

Okay, Joe Kind of got my vote here.

I don't really bother listening to reviewers, but after seeing this: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/96...

And watching this video, I think I'm gonna stay well away from UMvC3....at least until there's enough stuff in it to warrant a purchase, but It's FAR from a day 1.

#41
Diagonol said on August 5, 2011 at 6:56 p.m.

This guy is a GIGANTIC tool. A GIGANTIC TOOL.

#42
NyuBomber said on August 5, 2011 at 6:57 p.m.

It's up to the consumer to decide if something is worth buying or not, especially if it's an entertainment item. You either ultimately do buy or don't. There's no objective measure of "right or wrong" involved.

You're either think the positives (whether that's because one of your fave characters got in, or you like the balance changes, or you just genuinely find the game fun, or you're addicted and should seek help, whatever) outweigh the negatives (you don't like the game, you're against what you see as Capcom swindling people, you're still salty about Megaman/Venom/MML3, whatever) and you buy or you don't.

#43
fawaz said on August 5, 2011 at 6:58 p.m.

To be honest, this game still feels incomplete to me. For instance, the Replay Channel is still missing. So they consider it redundant maybe? And why are Jill & Shuma still DLC? Shouldn't they be regular characters this time?

I don't think it's about spending $40, it's more about changing the behavior of companies like these making stupid mistakes(which might be intentional, who knows...), and the ones who always suffer are the buyers, of course. The company never loses an opportunity to make profit even if it comes at the cost of fooling people - "Business Strategies" you know.

My questions still: What should people do with their MvC3 copies? Will you continue support for it Capcom? OR Will you provide some exchange deal?

#44
novaxxblaze said on August 5, 2011 at 7:01 p.m.

why!? why do people think you can make a finished game lets all think for a second people. no game is perfect and there will always be someone complaning and now that they can fix it faster to shut those people up and please them you complain more!? none of you work for capcom and if you did you would probably understand why a "finished" game is impossible a very PERFECT example of this is SF3 OE the first thing fans asked for was rebalencing that game was amazing and fun to play in every was but that goes to show how even after ten year people can still complain about it...no game can be made perfect but that is where playing the game and exploring it comes in and thats what really makes the game fun

#45
HyperCombinationFinish said on August 5, 2011 at 7:01 p.m.

I swear, I don't know where some gamers get this sense of entitlement. What would you prefer? Mvc3 launching with 20 chars? Add four more to make super mvc3? Add 4 more for arcade edition? Capcom gave people twice the content of their typical fighting release and all fans can do to show appreciation, is whine and complain? Its like the snotty teenage rich girl who throws a tantrum and causes a scene because her parents bought her a white bentley instead of a silver one.

#46
SsjBizzle said on August 5, 2011 at 7:04 p.m.

Guys lets be real, stop randomly defending it, open your eyes. THEY WERE LAZZZY, that's almost fact lol. NOW IM NOT SAYING, that we're not getting the full value out of the 40 bucks, since most of us probably will play it for HOUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSS, BUT, this is not a ''GREAT DEAL'' AT ALL.

---------------------------
Compare SSF4 TO UMVC3:

UMVC:

- NEGATIVE 1 New mode (Shadow mode is gone..so were getting LESS MODES THAN BEFORE LOOOOOOL!!!!)

- 12 character (65% of which we don't give a damn about)

- BAD ONLINE: We're paying for their mistakes, what's worse is..people that won't buy ULTIMATE WILL STILL HAVE BAD ONLINE........WTF..

- Paying for Spectator mode
- Paying for re-balancing
- THROWING AWAY MONEY BY HAVING BOUGHT SHADOW MODE

SSF4:

4 NEW MODES/FEATURES ..(FOUR.....)
10-12 Characters (90% Of which were highly requested, NO ONE complained)

- FREE BALANCING
- GOOD ONLINE IN ALL VERSIONS
- SPECTATOR MODE

#47
fawaz said on August 5, 2011 at 7:06 p.m.

@44... Oh and I forgot to mention that It would be awful to see more slideshow endings rather than actual cinematic ones. I thought this time they'll pay attention and replace them, but oh well.

#48
Hakai said on August 5, 2011 at 7:06 p.m.

@3 - [mod edit, watch the insults.]

@5 - [mod edit again, watch the insults.]

@15 - 3rd Strike sales (low) caused Capcom to re focus their goals on Street Fighter
and it brought forth great results (Steet Fighter 4 series); Regardless that it took them a while.
Lack of sales does speak to development, they won't stop making they will only try to do better.
They can't afford not to have good sales and will do what is necessary. It's up to you if you will spend
money on their minimal output. That's business, you build cheap and sell expensive. In the end you bought the
exact same game twice in less than half a year.

#49
kazukifafner said on August 5, 2011 at 7:08 p.m.

@36

"You guys need to learn to simply turn the other cheek instead of making this bs 15 min video and paragraphs."

You're kidding me, right? Do you even have a concept of how market-based economics work? The CONSUMER dictates what is offered to the market with their WALLETS. "Turning the other cheek" to what company's do and sell is the most irresponsible thing I have ever heard. Letting the company walk all over you isn't going to do you any good.

I don't mind paying for balancing. I think it's great that companies offer it for free, but I think that's just a nice bonus. Balancing is incredibly difficult for any fighting game whose characters aren't perfect clones of one another, and I can understand wanting compensation for that effort.

I don't mind spending money for new characters either. Those are incredibly important to a fighting game since, well, those are what the players control in the matches. I don't mind having a bunch of characters on a full retail disc either. DLC can do wonders for it, sure; but then you've got people claiming it is too much for one character, or that they should have been in the game in the first place. So it goes either way.

What I have a problem with is exactly what Angry Joe mentioned. Regardless of what anyone wants to believe, we are getting less for the same price (compared to SSFIV, not the original MvC3). Not only that, we are getting it in a shorter interval than usual.

This is not something that the consumers should want. They should expect the same amount of content for the same price, and the companies should offer that at that price. The instant one side gives way, the balance shifts. The consumer just happens to be the one that tends to give way first. Supporting UMvC3 will make this amount of content acceptable for $40 dollars. Not what it could do, not what it would do, what it will do. That's how things work, and people should realize that before they spend the hard-earned money so carelessly.

Money has intrinsic value, so spend like you actually value it!

#50
YTPHaruko said on August 5, 2011 at 7:08 p.m.

>mfw my name isnt credited

#51
GideonWins said on August 5, 2011 at 7:08 p.m.

@47. Who the hell is we. I love Nova. and Iron fist. So. Speak for yourself, and no one told your ass to buy shadow mode, just go play mvc3 if you want it so bad. the hell. you honestly need to understand that jill and shuma were about 5 apiece so thats 50 off the bat. hurp durp

#52
MrDarkHadou said on August 5, 2011 at 7:10 p.m.

Me and my brother were just discussing the rant joe made.On some points i do agree with him about when he was comparing mortal kombat,ssf4 and umvc3.But in the end of the day nearly 3/4 of us fans are hype about this new game.Some of the added chars. are defiantly nice to see but i do wonder why gambit,venom,cyclops,cable,and of course megaman werent added.
And i also think this version should be lower in price as well

#53
rogueish1 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:10 p.m.

Okay
Just wanted to point out mvc3 netcode is *hit lol

#54
KR811 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:11 p.m.

@37
You're right about COD and SF2. But comparing Madden or any other sports game to Capcom's BS is fail.
Sports teams change EVERY YEAR. That's why a version is released annually. Their reason is actually legitimate.

And with other games, at their other companies and Ono from Capcom waited a least a YEAR to release their enhanced versions of games. And since Ono (who doesn't work on MVC3) is working on SFxT I doubt the same thing will happen to that game.

All you did is prove Joe's point. Now if you excuse me I'm going to gamestop to sell my special edition of MVC3 to preorder UMVC3/

#55
SsjBizzle said on August 5, 2011 at 7:12 p.m.

@52: We as in the majority. Ive followed the whole MVC3 thread @ SRK, and the majority was upset about the character picks. Like everyone complained lol. And dont ignore the other points

What do you mean about Jill + Shuma? I dont get that sentence. They are not free so idk why you're subtracting 10 bucks instead of adding. (Oh btw..who bought Jill + Shuma? Yea no one/ like a small % cause they didn't like them enough for the price)

#56
YTPHaruko said on August 5, 2011 at 7:14 p.m.

Why so much hate guys? Oh yeah whenever theres an article with differing opinions than a majority of the group than everyone flips there sh!t. Good this is going exactly as planned.

Now we just need angry joe to post SF3 Online rant. Then again that game is more reasonable than this cash grab. Also, Yoshinoro ono is a god send compared to TVC director

#57
rogueish1 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:16 p.m.

@50 you cant say anything to them about economics lol they dont get it. They would be the type to buy a brand new 2011 ford escort and drive it off the lot and in 5 months if it didnt work they would buy the 2012 ford escort with the added cup rest LOL. No knock on ford escort just using it as a generic car LOL.

#58
H3r01990 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:16 p.m.

All I got to say is that I'm glad I didn't buy MvC3 lol.
And yes...me and my cousin are just dying to play with Rocket Racoon, and no I'm not being sarcastic.

#59
KR811 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:16 p.m.

@56
"Who bought Jill and Shuma?"

Everyone who bought the Special Edition of the game. And we waited a month to even get them.

#60
CoastalmixX said on August 5, 2011 at 7:18 p.m.

This guy rocks. Subbed.

#61
rogueish1 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:20 p.m.

ROFL @59
@60 very true I remember that

#62
holmes15688 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:20 p.m.

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#63
GideonWins said on August 5, 2011 at 7:23 p.m.

@60 - exactly
@56
Just because a vast majority of these people dont pick up a comic but run to mvc and fight for it. Who do you want from marvel? ._. Im curious. Plus, you havent even played them.

And I'm letting you know just characters DLC is 50 dollars. Im not subtracting

And your other points?
-If you want Shadow mode go back to mvc
-Rebalancing comes because of a vast majority complaining.
-And a bad net code. *shrug* I don't really notice it and if you have a great connection which most individuals have, then. yea. :/ I just dont like how people complain like capcom owes them something

#64
YTPHaruko said on August 5, 2011 at 7:24 p.m.

He failed to mention additions like new moves and color palettes. Most of the cast is characters shown in some of the endings of the game. Also the DLC costumes are not the same value as SSF4 and therefore shouldnt cost as much.

SSF4 Costume pack 320 MS = 4.00$
*Comes with 5 costumes and 10 palletes
MVC3 Costume Pack 400 MS = 5.00
*Comes with 6 costumes and No palletes

Herp derp Captivision

#65
indeed2807 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:30 p.m.

Just because we live in the US doesn't mean everyone is rich/wealthy. I had to buy used games at time because most of us are poor. I totally agree with this guy, I'm done.

#66
HyperCombinationFinish said on August 5, 2011 at 7:35 p.m.

The SF IV argument is retarded. You only got more from their DLC because you got so much LESS with the original SF IV. Even with both DLC packs SF IV's roster won't touch UMVC3's but people complain because of the manner in which the dlc was released? Or about something lame like spectator mode? Caring about spectator mode in a fighting game is like caring about dialogue in a FPS.

#67
fawaz said on August 5, 2011 at 7:38 p.m.

@50 I agree. If we agree to this right now, this pathetic act of Capcom will be used as an example for future pathetic acts. That's what we are talking about - not that people don't have $40 to spend.

#68
hadokendj said on August 5, 2011 at 7:38 p.m.

I like how people say "You're poor if u don't want it" No we don't want a game that's not that great and could be re-made again 5 months later

#69
DrewGrimey said on August 5, 2011 at 7:38 p.m.

@64

If you don't notice how bad the net code is, you either:

1. play as: wesker, wolvie, phoenix

2. have crappy execution and therefore do simple S,A,B,C,S combos

Because MvC3 online is BAD!!!

#70
kazukifafner said on August 5, 2011 at 7:39 p.m.

@67

No, we got more from SSFIV because we actually got more. Regardless of how much we original had in SFIV compared to MvC3, we still got more new content from SSFIV than we will from UMvC3.

There's no getting around that. In terms of content, UMvC3 adds significantly less than SSFIV did for the same price.

#71
VarMa said on August 5, 2011 at 7:40 p.m.

damn...why is everyone mad at capcom its not like there the first ones to do it.

EA: A new iteration of madden,fifa,nhl,etc. every year

Activison: a new Call of duty plus map packs every year

its like you guys never heard of trading games in. im trading in my copy of mvc3 a month before ultimate it comes out, and ill probably get around $20 for it and thats half of what UMVC3 is. all you'll need is and other $20(pretty much the price of DLC's[ie. COD map packs])

#72
Doktor42 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:40 p.m.

I like Angry Joe, but I'm sure a lot of people are going to hate this video, to anybody who thinks that he's pathetic or something for getting mad over video games, the name of the show is Angry Joe, it's no different than the Angry Video Game Nerd, he's just taking personal opinions and blowing up the emotion to be entertaining, even if you don't like it, you can't deny what he's saying is pretty spot on.

#73
Sasuga said on August 5, 2011 at 7:42 p.m.

Jup, youtube. A stage where even the retards can get their 15 minutes of fame.

He's looking at it the wrong way also; you get the option, the choice, the FREEDOM to buy this game. Entirely for FREE. But this angry little boy KNOWS that he cannot resist buying it. He KNOWS his money is already in their pocket and he blames THEM for it. Even though he knows that its just a couple of stages, spectator mode and characters which he thinks suck, the option to not buy doesn't even occur to him.

Offcourse he is not serious; he is just trying to be funny. He fails at that to.

#74
holmes15688 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:45 p.m.

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#75
holmes15688 said on August 5, 2011 at 7:49 p.m.

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#76
Tensa said on August 5, 2011 at 7:51 p.m.

I agree with @5 Iam not apart of the development team and capcom isnt gonna tell us everything I agree with this guy and I dont the reason I agree is because I PAID 70 (SE) for mvc3 and the training mode is the best capcom has ever done but the online is so bad its up there with kof12 I get error creating a lobby wtf we didnt get really anything all we got was a sent HP nerf basically if you didnt have a offline scene then mvc3 was worthless and I have a feeling that we will get super street fighter x tekken in 2013 now I disagree with the guy because 12 is a good amount with fixing to balancing and online it seems that it would have been harder to do that while people are online unless they shut it off till they fixed it I know mk did this but mvc3 seems like it would be harder to fix than mk9

#77
maxs2d2ace said on August 5, 2011 at 7:53 p.m.

bison : yes! YES!! YEESSS!!!

MY MAN JOE SPEAKS THE TRUTH.

guys if you need to buy marvel vs capcom, then buy it used or rent it from gamefly for a month until it goes down in price.

capcom is trying to be sneaky by offering free Dlc customes
to make sure you buy it New.

i mean really!

#78
maxs2d2ace said on August 5, 2011 at 7:54 p.m.

oh and i meant to say costumes
srry

#79
KR811 said on August 5, 2011 at 8:06 p.m.

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#80
MALDA said on August 5, 2011 at 8:06 p.m.

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#81
MALDA said on August 5, 2011 at 8:08 p.m.

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#82
KoChief said on August 5, 2011 at 8:10 p.m.

that guys a damn moron.
you know some ppl dont have online avalible to them.
what about them peeps?
if you guys are soo much better go make your own damn MVC3 and quit the QQing or you could not buy it?

#83
MALDA said on August 5, 2011 at 8:10 p.m.

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#84
MALDA said on August 5, 2011 at 8:13 p.m.

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#85
Bynoe said on August 5, 2011 at 8:14 p.m.

While I agree with a lot of what this guy is saying, I did have a lot of fun with MvC3 and I expect I'll have a lot with Ultimate as well so I'll probably be buying it. The problem with what he's saying though, is that if UMvC3 doesn't sell well Capcom won't say, "Hmm, this didn't sell very well, perhaps we should've included more content and made a better game" or "Maybe we should explore alternative methods of getting the content to fans", they'll say "Hmm, this didn't sell very well, obviously fans don't like vs games so we won't make any more of those", or even worse, "This new fighting boom seems to be over, let's slow down production on our fighting franchises and make some shooting games since that's where the profit seems to be these days".

#86
MALDA said on August 5, 2011 at 8:16 p.m.

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#87
JustEddie said on August 5, 2011 at 8:18 p.m.

@83 Why limit yourself to getting laid OR getting a game. Why not both? <.<

#88
InitialR said on August 5, 2011 at 8:18 p.m.

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#89
GamePirate420 said on August 5, 2011 at 8:19 p.m.

Let's PRAY there is no "Super" for SFxTekken

#90
MALDA said on August 5, 2011 at 8:20 p.m.

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#91
GideonWins said on August 5, 2011 at 8:21 p.m.

@70
I play Zero Tron Sent
Like I said it works and runs perfectly fine...
Its not choppy and links are easy. s,a,b,c,s. more like a,b,c drill, flame, j.b, s, b,b,s,down c, rocks, assist, beacon up, j.c x s, beacon foward, k servbot, c, takeout. dont assume. get a better connection

#92
MALDA said on August 5, 2011 at 8:22 p.m.

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#93
InitialR said on August 5, 2011 at 8:23 p.m.

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#94
G_H_0_S_T_728 said on August 5, 2011 at 8:24 p.m.

idiots that rant about a GAME needs to get a life i mean just look he rants on EVERYTHING WTF who gives a crap like people are going to listen and capcom is going to do the same stuff so why even try

#95
Shine3rection said on August 5, 2011 at 8:25 p.m.

Let's look at some more of the facts:

-Capcom already stated they intend to add more single player content in UMvC3 that they are not quite ready to talk about yet.

-We don't know all of the details of what we will be getting in UMvC3 so don't jump to the conclusion that SSF4 is a way better deal.

-Not everyone bought the first MvC3 so, whether or not the argument of it being a ripoff is valid or not varies from person to person.

-If you know Capcom does this, you shouldn't have bought the first one to begin with.

- Lastly, even if you do spend $100 total, I'm sure you can get a lot more replay value out of this $100 than you do for the $60 single player games that you get to play through once and is considered worth it because you get to unlock some art, or some secret movie at the end.

Honestly guys, there's nothing really wrong with what they're doing. I have faith that they're releasing it as a disc because they have to. SSF4 was originally planned as DLC but got released on disc because it was too much to have as just DLC. I'm sure it's the same case with MvC3. You guys keep comparing MvC3 and SSF4, but you fail to realize that having 6 characters in 1 match as compared to makes quite the difference in the amount of data and space it takes up. I rather just pay for the disc version than get all the DLC and have it take up a sh-t ton of space on my HDD.

#96
maxs2d2ace said on August 5, 2011 at 8:28 p.m.

@75

Man your comment crack me the F*uck up dude.

i thought of a boondocks episode just the way you explain it.

keep posting bro. =)

#97
Ice9 said on August 5, 2011 at 8:30 p.m.

#73
2,665 likes, 170 dislikes (Circa Date and time of this post)

Seems like He's got the charisma, edge and voice that counts for the moment.

Numbers like that are going to be hard to disagree with.

#98
Ice9 said on August 5, 2011 at 8:34 p.m.

#75
Dude.

....Dude.

Like, dude, seriously? Where do you live? I have to get your autograph.

#99
MALDA said on August 5, 2011 at 8:35 p.m.

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