A translation of the latest Japanese Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition developer blog was posted by USD on NeoGAF. The team discusses the ins and outs of Oni, including his moves and play style. Hit the jump to check everything out.
CHARACTER INTRODUCTION
• Kuruoshiki Oni (which I shall translate as Batsh**-Insane Oni) was created to be beyond Shin Akuma.
• Created using Akuma as a base, but because of his different appearance, techniques, properties, etc., he's pretty much an entirely different character.
• Higher health, stun than Akuma.
I'll continue to main Gouken and pick up Oni once AE drops. Can't Wait!
they describe oni like he's ment to be played at mid range
@3 What did you expect? Alot of people who comment here have no idea what they're talking about.
F*CK! I knew that there would be at least one STUPID DUMB SH*T in the beginning comments who would blow Ono's statement of Oni being a different character than Gouki/Akuma due to their PLAY STYLES, absolutely NOT meaning he IS a new being in the Street Fighter universe! HOW HARD IS THIS?! By the way, to answer one of the dumb as*holes' statement, Oni Akuma would translate into Japanese as Demon Demon. Oni Gouki would make sense but hell, you'll most likely blow that out of proportion and think Gouki is another character. Seriously. SHOUSHI! -_-
Oni is as much related to Akuma as Akuma is related to Evil Ryu and no-one would suggest that they are the same character...
It would have been better though if they'd given Oni a different name what with the confusion of the demon demon argument. I would have just called him Dave.
#16 Johnry
Please refrain from speaking on the matter if you know nothing of it because you sound just as moronic as anyone else claiming Oni isn't Akuma. Oni is Akuma at his highest possible pissed off point. I'm about to be at that level myself. SHOUSHI! -_-
there just sayin ina sence its a new character i dont know much about akumas backround but there saying its him trancended past shin in the most extreme way its him maybe u can say its not him cause its another version hey think of it that way just another version of akuma like everyone was crying about when they first seen glimpeses of him on the leaked achievments and even those suggest that he has just trancended with what the achievments are listed at
from playstyle really seem to look/play more like a reimagined rushdown gouken -- and as a gouken player, i gotta say i like what i see :)
played a little AE in akihabara earlier, but actually played my other main, hawk, for a few rounds (since i suck on stick with non-grapplers). did watch another guy play a bit with Oni and it looked like a lotta fun. took damage, but dealt damage; doesn't look super-technical, but you'll definitely need a good mental game to make the most of his more novel moves (multi-way-air-dash-thingy, i'm looking at YOU)
nice.
It's Akuma, no doubt, but what if they didn't make him and put in something really random and mixed up like, Dark Sakura or Enraged Violent Ken or, even better, made up a dumb reason and put Go Hibiki in. Not only could that actually happen and be completely retarded but it would also be more Shotos. Make some more original characters Capcom!
In fact, we've yet to see any fighter, at all, from Australia. That's a country too y'know.
525 damage? O_O
He's going to surpass Ryu in the noob friendly field :P
@15
Here's the issue with that. You're saying I'm wrong, when you yourself are basing the reasoning on nothing that's ever been said. All this talk about Akuma's true form, and none of that has ever been said by anyone at Capcom.
Meanwhile there's this post, saying that Akuma was only used as a base for the character, and suddenly I'm the one who's makin this stuff up and reading too much into it. What am I supposed to read into? The stuff you made up to suit your view?
Ryu was used as a base for Ken but no one is claiming they're the same person. Also why bother giving Akuma an entirely different name and mostly different moveset?
#32 NWAndroid
Here is the real issue. See, as someone who has been all about Gouki since he first came out as a hidden boss when I was 4 years old, the little information they always gave back then for any character, I followed carefully through all the years without caring for absolutely any character but Gouki. Any Street Fighter game Gouki wasn't in after Super Turbo II, I never even bothered with.
Now comes Oni. See, they could have gone the same route with Evil Ryu and just made Shin Gouki, who is slightly more different from Gouki as Evil Ryu is to Ryu. Did you really want that? I know I personally did before ever hearing anything about Oni, but upon hearing about Oni, I knew instantly that would act as a new 'shin variant' per say that didn't exactly seem too much like a clone, but was still enough to know it's Gouki, especially by his appearance alone.
Bottom line, they changed Oni from Gouki so much so he could be LIKE a new separate character rather another Ryu. It is common sense, buddy. Pretend for a second you never even saw those different normals from him, as that seems to be the base of your argument. He has the same voice actor, same sense of evil and need for ultimate power, he has the GOD DAMN variant of Kongou Kokuretsu Zan, his ten kanji is at the end of both Ultras and he IS Gouki.
Fear not though, someone official other than Ono and hopefully someone from America so you can't say anything about translation, will kindly hold your hand and give you the straight up answer of, Yes Oni is Akuma at full power.
#36 SHOGUN
Attention douche bag, even people who could care less for Gouki can see Oni is Gouki and when noobs come claiming bull crap like they're so sure they know sh*t, especially about my nugga, best know I'm going to correct them. When they keep coming back without listening to reason and talk more bull sh*t, best beleive I will be right back calling them out for being so ignorant. Shoushi!
@34 "It is common sense, buddy. Pretend for a second you never even saw those different normals from him, as that seems to be the base of your argument."
I don't get how "common sense" or your love of Akuma just automatically makes what you're saying a fact. I think a lot of us can claim to be huge fans of this series, or characters in particular. Unless we're in the room with the dev team we won't know until we're told. To be fair to you that also applies to me as well. I can't say for sure, but to me it seems like they went out of their way to make him different. Especially considering Oni is a more powerful being than Shin Akuma according to Capcom.
I'm sure nobody played it enough to notice, but a lot of Oni's features are from Shin Akuma in SNK vs Capcom Chaos. The hair obviously, the stance, and the slight gut are from his character artwork. And his skin, bottom teeth, and slight horns are from his Red Aremeer transformation.
#37 WinstonChurchill
Been playing since I was 2. Street Fighter II was my first video game. I'm not even much of a gamer as SF and MegaMan X were the only ones I ever really cared about.
U2 does 525 dmg and it also can fadc into it. This ultra sounds like it can do as much damage as vanilla sagat's "jump in rh, cr. mp / mk, rh tiger shot, fadc, cr. mk / mp, tiger uppercut fadc forward rh into U1" combo if someone can be creative with Oni.
Standing hard punch: Forces stand? Maybe only if it happens to hit bigger characters or can reach crouched characters who are close? Because on most crouching opponents, the angle of this attack just goes right over their heads. Which is why I opt for crouching HP if I plan to combo (with the exception of far combos)
And it also says that you can't link standing HP from any normal move, but I know it links from standing LP. I use this in the event that the opponent is too far to be hit by a b+MP into the target combo, and it also doesn't need to be close. I've been using it at almost max distance canceled into fireballs or tatsus (which will connect)
As far as U2, FADC as in fireball I assume? I'm not sure you could get full animation from a shoryu fadc. Maybe you can and I just suck at timing, which is totally possible as well haha. I haven't gotten the full animation as an anti air either, so I know it's probably something wrong with my timing. I'll have to wait to run a few more experiments heh.
But U1, the air and kick versions come out quite slowly. Unless they're trying to cross you up AFTER you've already gotten up or are just standing there *which you rarely do to characters with shoryus anyways*, I've had people jump safely to the other side avoiding the fireball. Air version comes out slowly as well, read easily and countered easily by anything fireball invincible. Or can get them out of the way quickly.
All that being said, I do like the character haha. Love the design ;P
As a person who mains Akuma already Evil Ryu is looking more appealing to me than Oni. Oni reminds me Gouken so much. Def looking forward to them both regardless.
Kinda funny how Yun and Yang are being overlooked right now.
(Rumor)
So anyway what's going on with Hugo & Rolento being added?
@5, "oni akuma" would mean "devil demon", which sounds stupid.
i gotta say oni akuma is a great character althought what they said about him being higher then shin form confuses me....i say this because ssf4 takes place before 3rd strike yet in 3rd strike the form of akuma you play and face is shin not oni so why would oni be his top form if anyone can explain this to me please do ...what i get from this so far is that oni felt the way oro did and could not find his equal at his own power so he limited himself not im not saying im right and is anyone knows the real answer please do explain
@49
That coupled with the different gameplay style and what has been said in the dev blog has me wondering if Oni is someone completely different.
The story for SF isn't exactly the greatest in the world, but putting an Akuma stronger than Shin Akuma BEFORE Shin Akuma seems pretty ridiculous even for Capcom. But hey who knows, maybe they'll do some retcon work and say that during the SF3 series Akuma is actually in the process of regaining his humanity. Seems unlikely but anything is possible.
#49 novaxxblaze
Now here is a curious person I can respect. A fine line between someone who asks questions and those who blindly call out bull crap. Anyway, to answer your inquiry, the simplest way to put it is graphics, release date and storyline.
Graphically, there was no way to incorporate a fighter such as Oni back then in a game like Third Strike. Now, I guess in a way they could've really added anyone they want, but there is no way Oni would have been as different or made as much of an impact. The fact of graphics also ties in with release date as game engines and visuals weren't as advanced during Third Strike.
Even with all this aside, I believe the main thing comes down to storyline. The team obviously didn't even think up Oni back in the days of SF3 but if you want to be canon about it, like I always want to, then figure Gouken's return the reasoning for Gouki to become so pissed and unleash his complete demonic side.
In conclusion, Oni was never mentioned in SF3 because he wasn't created yet or even thought up. Storyline wise, there was no need for Gouki to even go Oni form due to the other fighters not being a fierce threat. He barely even had to go Shin or True form. I know this isn't official, but if anyone from Capcom were to ever explain it, I'm certain this would be damn close.
The indefinite reason for Oni's creation: To destroy Jinpachi. I believe I originally stated that a few days ago in the comments of Oni's Ultra's Article although I know #44 Eternal7 also made that statement.
@51
What's the deal? I've been getting flamed by you all day, not that EventHubs has noticed. I've been called a "STUPID DUMB SH*T", and even after trying to have a decent conversation you call it "bull crap".
Maybe I'm asking too much of the internet, but why keep dogging me when I've been nothing but cool this entire time. We've all got opinions, people disagree, but most people can do it without completely losing their mind over such a trivial thing as who a SF character is.
#52 NWAndroid
It was sheer coincidence that you posted right as I was typing out all of my last comment on my iPod. I didn't even see your post until after I finished, so don't get it twisted. Although you were amongst the many blaring out random things before, that part of my comment wasn't directed mainly at you, especially since I noticed you toned down the randomness. Still ain't quite there, but your skepticism is at least more tolleratable. I will admit, I was tired and growing angry with how many simple things I had to keep explaining and re-telling before but it was getting a little out of hand so I do apologize. I know it's a bit abnormal, but I do take my most favorite video game character quite seriously.
why it isnt called Oni akuma here there reason
Akuma means Devil or Fiend
Oni Means Demon
if you put them Both Together then that will make no sense
Devil Demon....
he was created to surpass Shin-Akuma??
hahaha good luck Capcom. unless Oni can not be punished off a dizzy (SFA2&3 Shin-Akuma) has faster EVERYTHING (moves teleporting raging demon (which btw your opponent cannot jump out or reversal if you are knocked down and SA raging demons you [SFA2])). more powerful moves Supers (Ultras i guess) normals specials. fires two Zankou Hadoukens, and may very well be called king of broken characters...then Capcom have lied in our faces.
@54
good question but i suppose since it is a Japanese game they went by their Japanese names i.e Oni Gouki (translate to strong demon warrior or strong demon ogre) something like that.
#55
-_- The Street Fighter Alpha series isn't even close to the same game as Street Fighter IV. The properties are completely different let alone game play and even hidden boss Shin Gouki in SSFIV doesn't move like he did in Alpha 2 or 3. Canon to the STORYLINE, Oni surpasses Shin Gouki. Hypothetically of course, Oni could be the lowest tier ever to be in Street Fighter IV but story wise, he would still be the strongest warrior of the Street Fighter universe thus far and most likely for good. -Sigh- I should really just give up on these lames. Don't ask me why I won't. SHOUSHI!
Btw, if you put oni and akuma charachters together it would probably read kiakuma or akumaki. It's not uncommon for more than one kanji with similar meaning to be put together like 激烈(gekiretsu) where both characters mean something like violent and thus te compound also means violent or 破壊(hakai) where they both mean destroy and together they also mean destroy.
But either Kiakuma and Akumaki doesn't sound cool. At all. Oni is al lot better. And it's just the second character from gouki on itself.
Please learn this from heart as you will receive a test next week.
@57
chill out dude your not an Akuma expert just because you say SHOUSHI after every post. it just makes you look lame as hell. taking a video game way out of proportion. anyways Shin-Akuma is way more original then this blue shrek so dont even bother replying, telling me Oni can beat Shin-Akuma (if somehow they could fight). and in the final game (story line wise) 2nd Impact Akuma becomes Shin-Akuma not Oni, so obviously hes found his true power. (i cant metion 3rd Strike because Shin-Akuma was never in 3rd Strike). let me end it off this way...LOSER!!!!
#59 Chump
BWAHAHAHAHA! Amusing. Anyway, did I ever say I was a Gouki expert? I mean, I am but I don't remember ever typing it out. I have been however stating well educated guesses on the matter and actually reading what developers say instead of reading past them for the sake of what you want to believe. I've said nothing against what people at Capcom have said about Gouki period because instead of going into fairytale land with the whole thing, I listen to the bullsh*t they say and try to make sense out of it.
Shin Gouki did appear in the Street Fighter 3 series and I have mentioned that if you actually want to read what I've been standing for through out the whole time I've been commenting. As I've said a thousand times in an instant, perhaps the fact Gouken's return awakened Gouki to Oni as Gouki hated that futha mucka with as much passion as I do and was most likely more pissed that he was certain he had killed his older brother long ago. EDUCATED LOGICAL GUESS.
The only reason I am not guessing Evil Ryu's return wasn't the reason is because Evil Ryu has the scar of the Meido Gohado through him, causing me to believe that triggered Ryu to awaken to Evil. I COULD BE WRONG. It is a lot more sensible then going against Capcom officials like most of you have done. I also presume but I doubt, that Gouken will be killed off sometime in SF4 to hopefully explain his absence in SF3. I just doubt it though as he is a new fan favorite and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they some how changed everything about the SF3 story and incorporate Gouken and Oni in SF3OE coming soon.
As I've also stated, it's most likely that Gouki saw no need to go Oni crazy as he had no incredible rage throughout SF3 like he had for his brother as there is NO DOUBT in hell that Gouki hates Gouken like no other. This all of course is to pamper the very simple real reason that ONI WASN'T F*CKING THOUGHT UP, DREAMED OF OR ANY WHERE NEAR CREATION DURING 1997-99 which imbeciles like YOU my good sir, cannot wrap your mind around! KOKO NI KIOMORE!
@60
Akuma doesnt hate Gouken you idiot. the only reason he killed Goutetsu (his master) and his brother Gouken was because the evil intent forces him to fight to the death. also he can only challenge worthy opponents not just anyone from the streets. E.Ryu can be triggered many ways because unlike Akuma Ryu is still very new to it (never having the chance to fully master it). and no your not an Akuma expert just because you know a few of his lines from various video games. if you were an Akuma expert you would know that Akuma wouldnt go on his period as soon as someone bashes him. so please stop saying weird Akuma lines after all your posts and just relax. your boyfriend is just a fictional character. LOSER!!!!
#61
How incredibly stupid you truly are. Seriously, read close and stay down after this. First off, I had said Gouki's hatred, which also fuels his rage, was MOST LIKELY toward the fact that he believed he had killed his brother. Ever since his return, as fierce as a warrior that Gouki is, I am absolutely positive he was after him right away to finish what he thought he had accomplished. The Satsui No Hado is a dark intent you sloppy f*ck. It fuels on rage and anger.
It's like you stretch out dumb ass reasons from wikipedia that are FROM THE PAST and think you are smart. I know those things already as far as how Gouki has mastered and is going beyond with this technique while Evil Ryu is triggered in many different ways indeed, but we are talking about now douche, and right now Evil Ryu has a freaking hole in chest from the Meido Gohado which he didn't have before. Thus causing my belief because I observe sh*t.
You will say anything to feel you have made a comeback but you are so hard on Alpha and SF3's half baked storyline when SF4 is what's happening now! It isn't that hard to see what's going on if your silly self would just open your eyes instead of waiting for it to be on Street Fighter Wiki. SHOUSHI!
I can care less about Oni. I'm still rooting for a Satsui no Hadou Dan. God Tier AWAITS!
525? jesus