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Blast from the past, early version of vanilla Street Fighter 4

Posted by Catalyst — April 10, 2011 at 8:01 p.m. PDT

A lot can happen to a game before it's released. The footage below shows a pre-release build of vanilla Street Fighter 4, when the game was about 50% completed, and it features numerous differences that didn't see the light of day when the title was first released in the arcades months after this video was taken.

Some things include jumps being a lot less 'floaty', meter placement and style and backgrounds lacking various details. Here's the clip from EpilepticGaming.

Comments

cvs said on April 10, 2011 at 8:04 p.m.

Wow,sf4 has changed so much since then.

Vanstuke said on April 10, 2011 at 8:06 p.m.

C.Vipers breasts were much larger in this build... huh. Weird.

MrPavy said on April 10, 2011 at 8:07 p.m.

is it me or did ryu's face look more muscular and kens eyes looks like he just sniffed a whole bag of coke

Jerry said on April 10, 2011 at 8:07 p.m.

Those portraits of Ryu and Ken look SO much better than the ones we have now.

Doopliss said on April 10, 2011 at 8:10 p.m.

Abel's sweep is so sick in this build. I like how air to air moves knocks down on counterhit, they should've kept that. But I guess it kills the flow a little.

TehTy said on April 10, 2011 at 8:11 p.m.

They need to make a skin patch or downloadable, that gives the choice of the skin of the life and Ultra Bar. I would prefer it at the top, but I would rather have the Super Bar in the segments. Also, I would like a better look at that original character art from the game.

Von_Kunlun_BOOF said on April 10, 2011 at 8:12 p.m.

C.Viper's boobs got nerfed after this build.

crispylinks77 said on April 10, 2011 at 8:21 p.m.

I remember first vids of SFIV looking like this. I wish the actual version of the game had less floaty jumps like this build, then the game would probably have been a lot better; mainly offensively.

Oroku_Saki said on April 10, 2011 at 8:22 p.m.

@Vanstuke

There was a community update a while back that had a link to a lengthy examination about C.Viper's breast shrinkage.

Ruiz said on April 10, 2011 at 8:27 p.m.

@ Oroku_Saki

What was the reason?

#10

cvs said on April 10, 2011 at 8:32 p.m.

What's the big fascination with c.viper's bosom?

#11

mrdrofficer said on April 10, 2011 at 8:33 p.m.

You must be psychic, Cat.

I was just thinking about the pre-release days today and here it is.

Aces!

#12

Thirtyfour said on April 10, 2011 at 8:34 p.m.

Why the hell did they slow everyone's jump down?
MY JUMP IN SWEEP COMBO WOULD BE GODLIEK

#13

Creeper said on April 10, 2011 at 8:34 p.m.

http://kayin.pyoko.org/?p=975

#14

ChunLi said on April 10, 2011 at 8:42 p.m.

The Ryu and Ken portraits looked so much better here!!

Btw: @1:50 - onwards, do you see how he's playing?

MASH DAT!

#15

Hakansoilbarrel said on April 10, 2011 at 8:45 p.m.

(It's an SF game confirmed! Get hyped!)

#16

RandomJohn said on April 10, 2011 at 8:46 p.m.

The portraits on the versus screen looks so good. Why did they change it?

On another note, shout outs to button mashing game testers. I guess we all know why MvC3 has so many glitches. Capcom's fine QC/QA team has finally been exposed haha.

Also, did anyone noticed Guile's initial start-up frames for sonic boom? It was like throwing a red fireball with akuma.

#17

Combo_Knight said on April 10, 2011 at 8:57 p.m.

I;m feeling like something went wrong after the build, Vipers face got a bit uglier, and Ken and ryu's portraits look a little worse.

imo.

#18

JasonLee said on April 10, 2011 at 9:01 p.m.

Those aren't game testers they are just people being shown the game at GDC.

I mean how dumb can you get? The game testers would be Japanese anyway.

#19

VileEighty said on April 10, 2011 at 9:02 p.m.

@2:00 just about, I love how the guy ends his flurry of stick-jerking with a little flare... as if he just ended an infinite or something.

#20

C2Q said on April 10, 2011 at 9:07 p.m.

I like how the old super bar looked.

#21

Mr_Clack said on April 10, 2011 at 9:15 p.m.

# 4 is RIGHT

Coming from an Art Background and a long time SF player.
This Ryu looked normal, like he always did.

What the hell happened with offcial SF4 art?
"Make his nose bigger, BIGGER!"

#22

MALDA said on April 10, 2011 at 9:27 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#23

RunningWild said on April 10, 2011 at 9:42 p.m.

I would of liked to have those less floaty jumps.

#24

CptMunta said on April 10, 2011 at 9:42 p.m.

I found some other footage from the same event that I used in the latest 3 Green Bars. I really like Ryu portrait art and some of the other UI elements. The reason the gameplay looks so "off" Is because the game is still using 3D collision detection at this early stage. So if the models hit each other thats what registers the hit.

They replaced it with 2D hit boxes which made a huge difference to the way the game felt. So it essentially made the engine like all the other SFs before it, just with a new posh 3D skin :)

#25

SSJ3X said on April 10, 2011 at 9:45 p.m.

From what I remember, they also had a different announcer before Vanilla came out, and swapped that announcer out with the one we had, which now is replaced by the F-Zero X announcer lol.

I could've sworn Catalyst posted something up way back when about this too, and it had some old footage too, like Abel's ultra 1 being nothing but kicks and then the slam rofl.

#26

Phynx said on April 10, 2011 at 10:15 p.m.

Man, if jumps would have stayed that fast.. this would have been such a more frantic game.

#27

Gameplan said on April 10, 2011 at 10:30 p.m.

The only jump I see less floaty on that vid is Chun's, the other ones look exactly the same as the final build to me.

Aside from Ryu's portrait (and Viper's boobs ;)), everything else looks the same or better in the final build.

#28

Sakura said on April 10, 2011 at 10:32 p.m.

I want my Quick Jumps Back...

#29

chickenwings said on April 10, 2011 at 11:20 p.m.

every time i here them mention inputs i cringe. Reversals should always require good timeing and execution. ANd then u always have the option to BLOCK. I hope to god sfxtekken does away with the shortcuts and tunes the game so that its more offensive then sf4.

#30

Sektah84 said on April 10, 2011 at 11:30 p.m.

Who came up with the gay vanilla name?! How hard is it to just say sfiv Smh

#31

Existent said on April 10, 2011 at 11:33 p.m.

I don't mind the majority of the input shortcuts, but I despise the Grand Canyon-esque reversal window.

#32

Shaggy said on April 10, 2011 at 11:39 p.m.

So, just in case you didn't see it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHfeW...
Peter needs to watch Air's guide to Ryu =D
(and yes, i know Air's guide is for Ryu in SSF4)

#33

ElectricBlanka said on April 10, 2011 at 11:57 p.m.

Blanka looks so buff here. Like Incredible Hulk.

#34

Nikon said on April 11, 2011 at midnight

I love that hud better. All it needs is the super bar under the HP bar and it would be a perfect hud. I wish the hud was a bit more customizable so you could separate the Ultra meter and Super meter and make it look just like this.

#35

draw2 said on April 11, 2011 at 12:02 a.m.

whoa...like everyone else...
those portraits are killer!!!

...anyone remember the early vids of Abel's super?
depending which punch you pressed...you got a different super!!! bring that back!!!

#36

darko_p86 said on April 11, 2011 at 12:08 a.m.

cool, sf4 is coming out. when is it hitting u.s. shelfes? ^_~

#37

SlimboKice said on April 11, 2011 at 12:12 a.m.

So the Beta-testers are mashers? hummmm... No more wondering why their recent games are mash-friendly.

#38

RandomJohn said on April 11, 2011 at 12:19 a.m.

@JasonLee:

Have a sense of humor you dumb fuk. I guess the haha at the end of my last comment didn't trigger that it was a joke, at least not to you anyway. I guess I need to write in BIG BOLD LETTERS for readers like you that I'm not being serious. What happened? Did I insult your precious mvc3 game by saying it has crap load of glitches or are you just one of those know it all people who sits behind the computer and call everyone else dumb and stupid?

#39

chickenwings said on April 11, 2011 at 1:09 a.m.

@32

the shortcut is what makes the window feel so much bigger. THink about it, in earlier sf games u would use negative edge/panio inputs to get a better chance at a reversal(in ryus case 6 button inputs) but now u can mash like a retard and get so many more chances to get it. THe current reversal window with a way tighter dp motion(ie a real dp motion) would make ALL of the difference in the world.

#40

cho10 said on April 11, 2011 at 1:14 a.m.

Viper looks better here. In the current ssf4 build i always notice her deflated breasts and her manjaw.

#41

chickenwings said on April 11, 2011 at 1:15 a.m.

@41

yea, i lol when i compare sf4 viper to the mvc3 verison(same goes for chun li).

#42

irrenmann said on April 11, 2011 at 1:20 a.m.

I love the Ken portrait visible at 0:23!

This was already post-breast reduction for Viper, I believe.

An interesting look at the past.

#43

YoshinatorZ said on April 11, 2011 at 1:38 a.m.

I miss the vanilla announcer... he was like the announcer from Marvel Vs. Capcom 2.

#44

Xykes said on April 11, 2011 at 1:58 a.m.

more old footage...check out Abel's old ultra 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkahUa...

#45

JasonLee said on April 11, 2011 at 2 a.m.

Lol RandomJohn: what are you talking about? No, you didn't insult MVC3 in my eyes. I don't even care for the game.

I was just pointing out that you were wrong. Don't pretend it was a joke. You thought they were testers... clearly they aren't. Must have struck a nerve though for you to fly off the handle like that.

As for viper looking better in the old version? Look at her face... she has giant duck lips.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e23...

Also, "man jaw" is hardly appropriate. That's what a humans face looks like. The Alpha versions pointed face looks alien like and ridiculous in comparison.

They rightfully fixed up her face for the final build.

#46

Xykes said on April 11, 2011 at 2:08 a.m.

plus Abel's old Super:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TIDZV...

they ended up taking his old super and cmbining it with his old ultra (that I linked earlier) to get his current U1.

#47

Ex_Ein said on April 11, 2011 at 2:25 a.m.

Xykes:
LOL
KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK
*ultra 1 grab animation*

#48

Runninonwater said on April 11, 2011 at 4:02 a.m.

I wonder how much arcade experience the dudes testing the game had, lol. Dat mashing!

#49

Relikk said on April 11, 2011 at 5:10 a.m.

SFIV is garbage.

#50

J said on April 11, 2011 at 6:11 a.m.

Wish they had Vipers new face with the old chest.

Also, lol @ the dude trying to mash out a hadouken and failing horribly.

#51

SFtheWolf said on April 11, 2011 at 6:35 a.m.

I really, really wish they kept these faster jumps.

Also it's pretty funny seeing a guy getting so frustrated with the controls in a promo video.

#52

MilnerWins said on April 11, 2011 at 7:27 a.m.

INDESTRUCTIBLE, I WONT LET NO BODY BRING ME DOWN!!!!

#53

Existent said on April 11, 2011 at 7:33 a.m.

@chickenwingz
I understand what you're trying to say but there is still a greater number of frames for a reversal. Alpha 3 was 1, Third Strike was 2, and I don't know the exact number for 4 but I'm sure it's a lot more than that.

#54

BrawlKarter said on April 11, 2011 at 7:53 a.m.

Man that guy using Ryu at 2:30 has THE UGLIEST hadoken form I've ever seen, just really tough to watch.......

#55

EnsignHiro said on April 11, 2011 at 8:04 a.m.

i agree. if the jumps stayed less floaty it definitly would be alot better and way less flow chart kens doing that floaty jump roundhouse into low roundhouse. just saying lol.

ken and ryu portraits look ugly in current versions they shoulda kept prerelease versions.

c vipers face looks better in prerelease version.

overall id say this version has that "heavy" look and feel

#56

EnsignHiro said on April 11, 2011 at 8:07 a.m.

@45 OMG abels face in that portrait is so sinister and makes him look like he was sniffin up ever drug like theres no tomorrow lol

#57

chickenwings said on April 11, 2011 at 9:49 a.m.

@54

it could be 10 frames if u cant do dps it wouldnt come out. thats the point behind my post. The reversal window has a big effect but when u take away the execution to the point where i can just mash them out a 1 frame window wouldnt make a difference.

#58

aj said on April 11, 2011 at 10:26 a.m.

lol that guy couldnt do a fireball in sf4

#59

MisguidedAngel said on April 11, 2011 at 10:45 a.m.

RIP good-looking Viper.

#60

caruga said on April 11, 2011 at 11:31 a.m.

They definitely hit Viper with the ugly stick.

#61

kirbykirbykirby said on April 11, 2011 at 11:52 a.m.

Viper actually looks like a women here

#62

ryodragoon said on April 11, 2011 at 12:06 p.m.

goddamn viper had huge lips. I dont think her boobs got smaller, just that tie got bigger.

#63

gtfopanda said on April 11, 2011 at 12:19 p.m.

Why did they do that to Viper, damn!

#64

NINJA said on April 11, 2011 at 12:32 p.m.

Ken's art was so much better. And his costume colors looked vibrant like they should be. Not the washed out colors we got on the final build. It pisses me off. I loved the yellow Ken and with this washed out bullsh-t the yellow color looks terrible in SSFIV.

#65

THE_GODDAMN_MASTER said on April 11, 2011 at 2:10 p.m.

Heheheh, even in the early builds, Viper was designed around her boobs.

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