Also submitted by David_I.
im glad i saw i before it was removed. which it isnt...yet.
I still want an Evil ver of Chun li or an extremly powerful good ver of her and n case anybody says this Juri does not count i consider her Chuns best rival thats it but thats just me.
@JasonLee
I don't think Capcom cares anymore, videos of Evil Ryu and Oni that were removed months ago are back up with their original upload dates and view counts.
@streetman88
There was a version of Chun-Li like that in Marvel vs. Capcom called Shadow Lady. She wasn't too interesting, though.
@gam3fr33k
how... how did you even get to that conclusion ?
Oni seems solid mid tier going off most of his normals, combos and special moves but hey this just makes me wanna use him more lool less people willing to learn his flaws
What's with this generation of street fighter saying everything is broken or OP?
@FlawlessMatador What's with this generatin of street fighter complaining about everything people have to say? You act as is air dashing into an in air raging demon looks like it belongs in SFIV. Stuff like that is why people genuinely say he looks broken.
@20: He isn't even out yet. You cannot say if a brand new character is or is not broken before release.
My only real gripe about him (apart from his DBZ hair) is his victory animation, which looks tailor-made for those ryona fetishists...
Such a beautiful sight. So this is Akuma at his fullest potential. from just watching this, Oni has crazy amount of mix up potential. Those air dashes are brilliantly made for feints and counters. wondering if those air dashes can be Tiger Knee for instants. Of course for the High damage and Stun output he would have to compensate with Low Stamina and Stun. It will take a sharp mind and steady hand to control this beast. Can't wait to face the Boss version of him.
He's alright but I'd put him in low mid tier. His pokes are great and combos do good damage but he's really slow and his mixup potential isn't hat great. Air dash is slow and completely vulnerable and wow you might bait an srk and punish with demon but then you waste your whole super and he really needs meter to do heavy damage. Fireball is worse than Sakuras and second hit of uppercut is airborne if not right in front of them (ie no fadc). His ex cross up moveis quite easy to see coming as well. And people going crazy over his airdash for baiting srks (with pretty much no punish obviously forgot about air tarsus/jaguar kicks/dive kicks. He's still very fun to use though
@#28"he's really slow and his mixup potential isn't that great" dude stop typing
His aura hurts my eyes. I also appreciate that whiff Ultra 2 is a ghetto version of Geese's Real Bout Raising Storm.
Maybe Yun, Yang, and Fei Long will be put to shame by these two character, just saying that would be a funny turn of events because they are all ranked god tier
The thing about Fei Long is that there is a reason why he is at the very top and people have tested him. Hell, on the whole he got better in AE.
Just for the record, Ono has hinted that he wanted to include an "overpowered" character for AE. Whether he did or didn't (with Oni) is left for us to decide
I have to agree and say that he doesn't seem to have much mix-up potential, which is usually a death sentence for a hard hitting character.
@Darkyellow
your right, i mean just look at cody *sigh* lool
it also doesnt help that this character has to have the opponent standing to dish out his most damaging combos
I kind of doubt that a combo involving a target combo is his most damaging combo.
How about the lightning Fireball, can you Fadc into it out of a shoryuken, and which does the most stun?
@24 surprisingly he has pretty decent health lol
His regular fireball barely goes half past half screen, and u2 is fairly useless overall. He certainly has some good normals though, and fairly damaging combos even though we've seen them all before lol. His and E.Ryu's u2 are the best looking ultras in the game hands down though, and maybe Yang's U1. I duno who is gonna be better between him and evil ryu :O!
The more I see him in action the more I think he's not Akuma. Either way he's looking really nasty.
@Darkyellow
wouldn't be suprised if it was, i mean did you see the damage he done and oni doesnt seem like the combo oriented type, kind of like abel cody zangief etc
tbh oni is looking defensive, y give him a grab that sends you to the other side of the screen? y have a move like f.hk that puts you in juggle state but then sends you to the other side of the screen ?, sagat,chun,gouken mix ?
Oni doesn't look as beastly as regular Akuma. Oni looks cool, but he suffers from Scaleitis, His combos look good but don't appear to take away that much life, kind've how Boxer works. Good BnB's but link those into ultra and watch your meter take away almost nothing. Regular Akuma looks better IMO. But stilll waiting for Capcom to release DLC for this on console.
That damn aura will freak'n blind you. It won't be the power of his actual moves that beat you down but rather all that glitz and shine just trying to make heads or tails out of what it is that he is throwing at you. Kind of reminds me of Viper only blue.
im still hoping Ono really meant these 2(Oni and E.Ryu) were the characters "intentionally made to be good" but we'll see. and the only reason i think that is because who the hell tested these 2 out you know? they were a pretty good secret imo. thats not to say yun and yang are bad(obviously target combos and dive kicks mix ups are gonna be legit) but ive been seeing more and more of their tricks getting figured out and stopped on youtube.
I don't think any of the characters are on par with Sagat in his original SF4 incarnation. Sagat had great zoning tools, high health, decent to good normals, and insane damage output. None of these characters are that complete of a package.
If I were to play Oni, ALL I would do is air dash above my opponent and cancel into tatsu for ambiguous crossups. Looks pretty broken to me.
Somehow, I don't think that is a very effective strategy.
HOLT SH1T!!! he can do his raging demon in the air
His win pose is like Heihachi Mishima from Tekken grab opponent's head WICKED!!!
@54
Oni is not defensive at all but more similar to Cody, by baiting, frame trapping/counter hitting and with the poor mixup but heavy damage combos. His fireball travels to around half screen and his movements seem quite sluggish. His air dash isn't as good as it seems and vsing the majority of Ryu's etc he would just be light punch shoryuken out of it into ultra or he would whiff the shoryuken and stay safe. I'm not sure about this though but I think ex air tatsu beats out air raging demon.
@GW
really? he doesnt seem to have much frame trapping normals, and he has slow start up on some of his normals, im getting the impression this guys offense won't be that great but his pokes will be on par with chun, i do agree with the baiting and counter hitting but i dont no about frame trapping, then again we haven't seen all of his normals so im keeping an open mind
also i could of swore ultra 2 could be done in air but it became a grab
seriously though is whispering to me and he's saying hes a zoning character lool
Danpser, that means nothing. Lots of characters have hard-hitting combos, that doesn't mean they're good. Dudley hits harder than this guy, but he isn't good. Fei Long gets 400 damage with 1 meter and the combo is only 3 moves.
Haha. Clowns saying he's broken before even trying him out, cracks me up.
Thanks for the vid, I'm gunna take him up.
Wow, Oni Akuma looks fantastic. Also, brutal...
I like him a lot more than E Ryu.
Now that we've gotten two sets of clones, let's hope Capcom gets creative and gives us something we can really be happy about. Especially since they want people to pay for it.
hmm i knew this would come. A video showing some combos and people would be aaaaah ! There WILL BE Oni madness online if AE gets to the console market.
Still tho, first time i saw him, when he was revealed ofc in that live stream, i didnt care How bad he is or how good he is, i just wanna play as him!
I still got AE gouken i guess if there´s to many onis, i can have Oni as an Alt. But believe me i will work on him O.o
He has his ups and downs ofc. I dont think he will be Top tier, well probably, decent health, and when he does a full combo it does failry alot of damage. But he seems so versatile, answer for alot of stuff, so i want to see him with Real pro players.
He´s gonna be fun....
Scrubs gonna pick him and learn some cool big combos then get dominated by people using their mains and get frustrated that they can't land their jumpin or focus to do their cool combo and they can't wake up with anything and people block their EX palm, then they'll go back to whoever they used to play.
@91 Ohh, what brilliance, Capcom should hire you, all you would have to do is look at videos and then you could balance all of these fighters out! "I'd put him at low mid tier" <lmfao, this speaks for itself. Was that scrub comment based on experience? "If I can't use this character properly, he/she obviously sucks"
@cloudstrife360
so he's a scrub for making an early assessment on a character that IS clearly mid tier... ok then lool "massi4h" made good points and anyone can tell what "those" kind of players think when they epically fail at the character there trying to use, some people blame themselves, most people blame the character.
lmao, yeah, he kind of is. You don't really know where a character falls on a tier list for until a little while after they're out. You even said yourself you haven't seen all of his normals, so how could you possibly know? Don't even try to push that act on me.
And, I want to confirm something. Since you said you haven't seen all of his normals, you at least agree that there are some aspects about this character that you don't know about? Just give me a yes or no answer, that's all I'm asking of you.
my own assessment on evil ryu and so far its turned out to be very true, not much difference here, if you've seen the majority of his normals/specials and make an early assessment its not suprising that he would be very close to what you've already thought and my thoughts on Oni is he will be higher mid tier.
Holy sh*t, I guess we don't know then!
Lol but in all honesty, I just wanted to troll. And thanks for actually answering, most would have just gone off on some kind of tangent. And for the record, I don't think your one of those guys either.
lool i knew it and i still fell for it jeeez, cant help myself i guess
Just going to say that if his other normals were notable, they probably would be mentioned in the video.
lol yeah, your probably right. watch, they'll give him a dhalsim poke
Oni's confusing, hes got normals and certain specials that make you think he can go on the offense, like f.mk that is basically like kens, then you have the cross up palm move. His fireball doesnt even reach full screen unless its charged or u use the hcb fireball, both having poor start ups, kind of messes up your thinking but hey... cody's offensive but can zone to an extent maybe its the opposite for oni, a zoner that can also put up a decent offense
but y would a zoner have a fireball that doesn't reach full screen ? getting a headache
@GUNNAH_MAN
Maybe he´s a midscreen zoner O_O
keep his opponent at midscreen all the time.
His recovery on fireballs is pretty good.
Good normals, for close fighting. and that F+HP move is so fast, same for his kick. and then when he finally gets an opening, ex slash strike, srk, jump then do the teleport cancel into tatsu for a crossup etc, for some damage.
eff yes for Ippo music!!!!!