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It would be great to be able to spar in training mode with a friend online.
Ono: We received [your] opinion. Let me think about it. Thanks!
Any chances for Poison and Q in Super Street Fighter 4?
Ono: I can't comment on that.
If Poison is added to SSF4, I will buy 10 more copies.
Ono: Wow!!
Everyone I've talked too is unbelievable stoked about Poison!!! Your the man Ono!
Ono: Hehehe....
The new alternate costume for Ken should be a tuxedo with long hair like he had in Street Fighter Alpha.
Ono: Oh! Alpha's style... Umm, good. ;)
Thanks for keeping SSF4 alive with new content! :D I hope R. Mika makes it in :)
Ono: I want R. Mika back!!
Is there chance for Evil Ryu in SSF4 arcade edition?
Ono: Do you need him?
I can't wait for Street Fighter 5. Maybe you'll put Poison in that one...
Ono: Ummm, SF 5... It's a long way off. ;)
this is turning out to be super street fighter 4 alpha omega lol.
This is a pretty clear photo I think Ono went passed the line of tease with this one.
@Clovr4Lyf
Don't be a snitch, lol.
Yun's inclusion got me hype. Him and Yang are my personal favorite characters in the SF universe.
No arm guard and a blue shirt? doesn't look like either of these to me
Um, they've already scheduled the big reveal for this weekend when the lcoation test and TGS hits. Ono is just teasing you. :)
his wrist things are there look closley between the hair
YUN
ULTRA 1 YOHOU
ULTRA 2 GENEI JIN
SUPER Sourai Rengeki
This is getting a little too obvious if you ask me... And your right about the wrist things... They take about half his arm and a part of his hand. So either they changes his outfit or it's a yun alternate costume. o_o
Some of these Ono interviews are pants. They always ask such poor questions :(
@Clovr4Lyf
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If you start going off topic on every story, if you swear every other word, you'll probably get a note from me or one of the other mods explaining what you're doing wrong, asking you to do better in the future.
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I hope that clears things up, but if you have more questions, please feel free to ask.
Plz capcom hurry up and put this out so i can download for free on "those sites" aaarrrggghhhh matey.
I see the arm bands and hat, and a leg with black pants on. That's Yun alright. I wanna see more character reveals and gameplay already. Same goes for MVC3.
Oh, and I wouldn't mind a Street Fighter Zero 4 reveal... Just thought I'd throw that out there... Hehe
Genei Jin has to be an Ultra because of the recent juggle property video. If they want anythning that was even remotely similar to GJ then the ultra will make any SKD move have a value of JPX. If someone combos you into the ultra then after the ultra ends it will probably be JP1 or JP2, so I doubt he has any JP3 moves to continue the combo madness. Overall with damage scaling I don't think this will be much of a problem. The reason I feel like it has to be an ultra is because of how vast the move property change is. Changing moves that are SKD to JPX when they are normally JP0-1 is just crazy to be a super. Combos into it will most likely involve fadc after the shoulder rush move.
NOTE: If I messed up in using the terms recently learned by the other video, please correct me. The terms are still fresh and new, and so is the knowledge.
He finally asked a good question. Can we get a spar mode online every fighting game needs that damn.
This made me lol:
Is there chance for Evil Ryu in SSF4 arcade edition?
Ono: Do you need him?
AHAHAH get pwned
Wow, there's like 4 more mentions of me!
Anyone who's a fan, please follow me on Twitter:
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Yup that confirms it wow man I just hope Alex gets some love and get into the game my list goes like this
Alex
Q
Elena
Rolento
Birdie
karen
Geki
Eagle
Testu
But now since Yun and YAng are pretty much confirmed we get 1 more stf3 character hopefully Alex or Q
@ 27 clovr4lyf
Damn dude, those vids of Strip fighter iv just blew my mind away! especially the second vid with it's ending! lol
I'm really getting tired of teaser, where is that guy who found out all of the characters before Super sf4 came out? get him on the job
Poison would be a weird addition in the game, it would be better if Hugo was added instead. I hope the announce all the characters in the TGS.
@ 61 clovr4lyf
yea, I know! I hope that game has online content in it. or does it? lol. If only they'd bring that fighter here in north america with online capability then that game would sell in the millions in a day! lol
Two more character i have to figure out how to beat XD to bad there not anti-hero which is like the only characters i use
B.T.W i wonder if there getting makotoize in this game hmmmmm...
why would poison be a weird addition if we never saw her in any actual street fighter ? we don't even know her play style so this type of argument is invalid
1 question i hope yun doesnt suck like in alpha 3 max i just hope yun strong like in third strike and hope that his GENEI JIN his best move goona be good to use
3s characters are a joke, only a few had original move sets and where newish (dudley,makato,alex) for example. Yun is a replacement for Guy,Fei long and Gen. Characters like him were made like Remy as an aftermath to original characters but to avoid creating new moves. 3s is ass, bye.
My dream compromise with the 3S fans is have Yun/Yang take up one character slot and have their ultras/super/move set operate like Gen's ultra selection and have the 3S fans vote on the most practical and favored ultras/SAs allocated those characters so we can at least get Rolento & Elena in the game (two whom barely made the cut) and everyone can be happy. One bummer is though regardless of who's DLC, I doubt they will get new trials and arcade mode stories.
Give me your thoughts guys.
@FREE1UP
I'm ready to fight you but its impossible to chase a challenge thats not on my friends list.
PSN tokyobassist
Come get some
Man I'm glad they put Yun and Yang in this game. They're perfect for this game and I KNOW Yun has his Genei Jin in this game. Maybe not as powerful but something like Juri's ultra.
Also the arguement about Poison not being a good choice is like saying Amaterasu isn't good enough because he's never been in Vs. game. People that think this fails at having an imagination therefore I'm grateful they don't make games.
@78 thats a horrible suggestions espcially for people who played 3rd strike and like either Yun or Yang not both. Besides i dont know anywhere it says only 6 characters will be added if everyone read it...it said:
• There's going to be at least 6 characters added to the game.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/au...
So everyone saying oh no my dear elena didnt get in or OH Alex is da boss didnt get in the statement said at least 6
i think they dont want poison because.. -> attention <- she was NEVER in any street fighter game. She is a final fight character and, so far, doesnt belong to SF (except her connection to Hugo). So why bother tossing a character from another game in if u just could please the fans with characters they actually demanded.
Is there chance for Evil Ryu in SSF4 arcade edition?
Ono: "Do you need him?"
Funny how Ono answered this question by asking a question back. He's basically saying do you suck that much that u need an evil version of someone to win haha?
Juri time ultra sucks Yun GENEI JIN perform alot of combos with it
YES!!! I thought I was the only one who thought it would be useful to have an online training mode with. It's so annoying trying to train some of my friends to get better and having the time run out. Make it happen Ono.
"Is there chance for Evil Ryu in SSF4 arcade edition?
Ono: Do you need him? "
In other words:
"Can I get a waste of a character selection?
Ono: Hell no."
Also @83
Cody, Guy and Hugo all where "never in an SF game". They where in Final Fight then got put into Alpha. Also Mike Haggar was probably gonna be in SF2 but there where too many American fighters so they took his moves and gave it to a USSR fighter, Zangief.
(S)he deserves to be in SSF4 the same amount as any other character.
@ tokyobassist
definitly Yun/Yang on one slot is optimal, but with 2 complete different move sets obviously.
But remember, in the original post a few weeks ago, I know i read it on this site, they said there would be
AT LEAST 6 new characters, but everyone keeps assuming its gonna just be only six....we gotta give it some time.
Get the Poison out Raven
Ono is keeping Alex in the storage to make him the big star of SF5. No one noticed it yet?
And where does this idea of Yun and Yang on the same slot come from? So stupid. Does Blanka and Ken should be in 1 slot? No. Does Sagat and Zangief should be in 1 slot? No. So Yun and Yang can't be in 1 slot either since they are completely different too.
"Oh but the dive kick!"
Seriously? How many characters use fireballs in this game? Are they the same sh-t because of that? No.
But oh well, this is what we get nowadays, when there's a lot of players that started playing with SF4 and have no idea what 3rd Strike is. Some didn't even learned the basics of Yun or Yang. Obviously.
There you go, it says AT LEAST 6 new characters, 1st bullet down...
@87 yup exactly.. u even said it. Guy, Cody and Hugo are final fight characters, but they already made their appearence as SF characters, Poison didnt and i would prefer SF characters that are "demanded" by the crowd, not just like a gimmick added, just like:
"oh i want Alex and.. ehm.. Elena.. and.. mhh lets see.. Hugo.. "
Ono: "We'll add Poison !!!"
".. oh and i want Rolent.. wha..? Poison? wtf?"
If they were to put Poison in the game, would she be born a male or female? They might even make it different by region just like Vega/Bison/Balrog. Seriously though, can't they just fix that whole naming confusion?
My guess -
Yun's Sorai Rengeki is his Super.
Ultra 1 - You Hou
Ultra 2 - Genei Jin
... Kinda worried though. With all this teasing about Yun, where's Yang? Only time we saw Yang was in a previous shot, and that's with a bit of his hair. Really hope they don't share a character slot a la SF3:NG.
Follow me if you want me in:
https://twitter.com/Ingrid_For_SSF4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BZRb1... look closely as he turns
It's not Fei Long. It's got Yun's blue and yellow hat, and has the yellow armbands, + has Yun's clothes.
Fei Long with a Yun alt outfit? Nope, your video disproves your own argument, because by the time the camera pulls around for him to be in the same position as that Yun pic, the camera has zoomed out.
This is definitely Yun, going for what is likely Youhou, though could be Sourai Rengeki.
i found this on youtube dont know if its real or not but its got yang in
@93
You Mad!
So Cody, Guy and Hugo where all Final Fight characters that made the jump to Alpha and you're cool with that. Then Poison, who is a character in Final Fight and was in 3S, gets hinted at and you get all butt-hurt about it.
Quit trolling. You can see the brim of his cap and he's starting You Hou as an ultra (Super Art I).
@112
Yeah, it's fake. From Ono's twitter account.
@Batsu
Sure. No doubt that it is Yun. And that this is a great day.
Can't wait to see him and Yang.
Can't believe people didn't seen this coming. I'm impressed that they weren't there on the SUPER retail.
They are actually in the game (Chun's endings) since Vanilla SF4.
Like ono just said, do u really need evil ryu in ssfiv, plus i hope he was also saying do we really need elena
u have to look very close in the original pic to make out the armguard portion that goes over his hand because of the way the screen is the color of the skin and guard seems very close. using the zoom function on my ps3 browser u can see it better. plus the blue shirt fasteners on his original color costume.... i mean that only for those who feel the hat isn't confirmation enough. just wondering what the ultra is going to look like.
also i'm hoping the rumor of more new characters is true and maybe the character select screen this time has yun yang slots now open but adds two more that are locked. as each location test happens unlock two add two...
@111 that could end up very close to what he ends up looking like in the real game... its a great job whoever put that model together..
as said before the character picture by the health bars isn't SF4 style. but looking too close the super and ultra meeters are from vanilla SF4
Hooray for Yun and Yang.
And I really hope Capcom just comes out with all the DLC characters.
Like a lot of people already mentioned..it drags on for way too long.
SF-fans will buy the characters anyhow and casuals probably don't care who Yun/Yang or the other upcoming DLC characters are.
So just come out with it.
Almost as annoying as the sh*t they pulled earlier this year,releasing SSF4 in april instead of march.
on second look... yeah they are SSF4 super and ultra meeters... hmmm looking too close huh XD
Just show us game play on how bad the transition from 3rd strike will be for them just like Makoto
@126 BlankaBeast
Off Course! \o/
It's natural, since this arcade system is actually a PC running windows XP. It's name is Taito type X^2.
@130
Sean is legit. Don't hate.
Just give him his 2I SRK and he'd be great.
@LearningFast
I will lol when they are actually top tier. Both.
And I bet Capcom will also release another patch, a big one this time puting some characters up there as well. Specially Guy, Makoto and Hakan.
They are able to balance this game very well.
Wait for it...
Sean is awesome, I play him every now and then in 3S. I'd play him a lot more if he had his 2I DP.
@Sketor
Because I hate yun, it's not retarded to not like something popular, or else we're all retard for hating twilight, and just to give you a figure, more people have put more money into the lastest twilight then street fighter 4(Vanilla and Super).
Plus, I feel there are more deserving characters such as NEW CHARACTERS or characters that haven't been playable before, that should get a spot in, hell if you look at street fighter's history in actual numbered street fighers(1,2,Alpha,3) there have always been more new characters playable then returning playable characters.
4 series got this backwards with having 6 new characters in Vanilla out of 25 and even more so in Super by having 8 out of 35. adding yun over a new character is just more capcom fan pleasing and less about their originality.
Ugh, no Yun and Yang... Boring.
R.MIKA, POISON, KARIN!!
DO IT!
i love how ono does this. People need to appreciate the fact that hes really invovled with the community, what u see as an annoying teaser is his way of 1)giving u information 2)keeping u interested. FOllow other companies/games and ull see exactly what i mean.
I think I just figured something out about Ono. "No comment" means yes.
When he posted a question asking of someone asking about Yun and Yang a few weeks ago his response was "I'm left speechless." Now we have the twins.
So, I think this means we aren't getting R. Mika simply because Ono said he wanted her. He's sad the busty harlot won't be in the game.
Someone asks for Evil Ryu, he trolls them back to 1999. :D
Someone asks about Poison and Q: no comment.
I think we'll at least have Poison. Speaking of which, does anyone know where her moveset looked like in that obscure Final Fight game for the Saturn?
Ono's already said he wouldn't add Poison, so why do these ass holes keep bothering him about it? His design sucks, he's a crappy fighter, he has no interesting backstory and he has NEVER been playable in a SF game. So what do they see in this stupid assed character that makes them want Ono to throw him in at the expense of someone else?
not many people are that excited for yun and yang I see... Both here and on many forums... Same here though, I really want to see Elena!! D:
@153
I have no doubt that if poison was added or appears in game at all that whole he/she nonsense would be retcon'd. She was ment to be female and the only reason that he/she crap came into play is because capcom was worried that some retarded feminist group would bitch up and try to sue. Now 20 years later having a women get punched is fine so it shouldnt be a problem.
Lol @ all of the poor SOB's wanting Yun to be terrible in this game. If you're honestly that mad about him making the cut take the David Carradine route.
This is awesome news. I'll have a whopping 11 favorite characters in this SF title.
Mains: Guile, Chun-Li, Cody and Guy
Alts: Adon, Vega, Fei-Long, Dudley
Needs Work: Juri, Dee Jay and Yun.
Mains: Fei Long, Ibuki, Yang
Alts: Gen, Dan
Needs Work: Guy, Vega
@153- How does having an ambiguous gender (which it isn't, Ono said Poison's a guy) make a character a better choice than Alex, Rolento, Elena and Karin? Hell, I'd rather get f-ing Necro and TWELVE than him. Poison's a low-level thug. He's no better than Axl, Two P, Bred, El Gado or any generic FF thug. He has nothing good to offer and he sucks ass. He's better off staying as Hugo's manager.
@157- Poison was always meant to be a tranny. He's a tranny in FF and he's a tranny in SF3. They're not gonna change that even if they do put his ass in SSF4.
Poison's first appearance in Final Fight featured her and a palette swap character named Roxy as recurring minor enemies for the player to fight. Named after the band by an unnamed female employee at Capcom, she was designed by Akira Yasuda to contrast against the bigger characters in the game and move about randomly. According to the book All About Capcom Head to Head Fighting Games, the characters were originally planned to be female, but were changed to male transvestites (or more specifically "newhalfs") due to the suggestion that "hitting women was considered rude" in America and the concern that feminist groups would sue.
quick paragraph from the wiki that sited this "All About Capcom Head to Head Fighting Games" http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-l...
I don't know what's up with the addition of Poison but the more characters that are added, the merrier. SSF4 is turning out to be a Street Fighter all stars game. The only way I'll ever accept Poison is if they put Bel Biv Devoe's song as her theme.
#167 Wikis are not reliable sources. All About Capcom does not say that Poison was meant to be female.
@169
ur citing gamefaqs?
Poison was meant to be female, its just that simple. And if poison makes an appearance retcon'ing that crap will happen. Theres no way capcom will keep with that nonsense.
Posted by JinZo on September 6, 2010 at 2:04 p.m. #161
"Well majority of the new characters are terrible anyway so you can count on it if Yun/Yang ends up being terrible."
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Well most whiners are saying it for spite but if you're strictly speaking in terms of "brand new" characters to Super...I guess you have a point. Not everyone is gonna be top tier and only tier whores put that much stock into tiers.
Anyway just because most characters don't play exactly the same as their 2D counterpart/=terrible overall.
@171
No, they will keep it up. Poison was designed to be a tranny from the beginning, and they like to be consistent with their characters.
Gamefaqs or not, that guide contains info gathered from Japanese source books, and it was written by a guy who knows Japanese. I'd trust this over some wiki that can be altered by anybody at anytime.
@173
Gamefaqs lol. Seriously, and the wiki sourced a offical capcom book aswell.
Having to explain to new fans that the chick in the short shorts with huge tits is a man wont happen.
Looks R. Mika is about as likely as Darkstalkers 4. Poor Ono.
I like how this is a post about Yun, but Poison get more discussed about. All this talk about if its a him, a her, or a used-to-be-him is making me tired.... ehhhh, who the hell cares if she got a got a penis or a vagina? Its not like we will be seeing her naked in the game.
@174
Newsflash: WIKI PAGES CAN BE ALTERED BY ANY PERSON AT ANY TIME.
If you're gonna diss a faq just because it's at GFAQs, tell that to the guy who wrote it here, if you think you're so smart. http://shoryuken.com/f12/
#175- Ono told EGM she's a guy. That's all there is to it.
@ Kenshiro
Capcom will say that Poison became post-op after a run in with Vega's claw. Now she's got an angry inch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV0tgu...
(NSFW?)
"Street Fighter IV's producer Yoshinori Ono, when asked in an interview about the matter, stated "Let's set the record straight: In North America, Poison is officially a post-op transsexual. But in Japan, she simply tucks her business away to look female."He later emphasized it again when asked about what female characters could be included in the game Street Fighter IV, stating that it would be too confusing to include her due to the region-specific gender."
either ways poison is still a huge waste of a character slot...along with yang. Bring the characters that the ppl want karin, rolento, alex, elena and hugo or urien!!!
I hope you all realize everything everyone is saying is just personal preference.
"I hate character X, Everyone hates character X (baseless asumption)"
"They should put in character Y that I love that other people hate"
Just because you say no one wants character X doesn't mean it's true.
damn murderous is still pissed about poison being in the game.
U REAL MAD
I would only want Hugo in the game after a whole bunch of other characters (Alex, Elena, Rolento, Necro, Karin) because we already have Geif and T. hawk. Yes, Hugo is pretty different but still a big, slow, command grab grappler. He don't need another one of those so soon.
Posted by Poison on September 6, 2010 at 5:05 p.m. #182
"Oh and I also like all the talk about how Poison has no place in the game.
"She's just a low level thug."
What? You mean like Hugo?
"She's just a final fight character."
You mean like Hugo,Cody, Guy, Rolento and Sodom?"
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Meh her place in the game can be in Hugo's prologue and maybe a few of his taunts.
Gotta love the way people believe all characters have the same relevance as others.
You want her so bad in a fighting game? Go play as her in that horrendous Final Fight Revenge.
@ Everyone saying 3rd strike characters are garbage in this game...Youre Wrong!! 3S tought me how to actually play fighters smart. Just think about it. In 3rd strike you had to be smart to pull off a win against a good player. There was a pary system that was scrub an idiot proof, and ryu was'nt over powered and scrub friendly either...Just look at SSF4...You dont have to be smart to pull off a win but you have to be smart to play with 3S characters and thats why anyone whos an idiot does'nt like them...Dudley.. advance play requires a brain...Makoto advance play requiers a brain...and ibuki...well enough said...
lol sean was good in sf3 before 3rd strike in fact the same went for ibuki they were good in the 1st 2 version then 3rd strike came along and killed them from being decent charaters lol
Yup def yun, On should Make yun and Yang a one character select box like SF3 Giant Attack. This way it would be 7 characters instead of 6!
@DeboMagneto
Seriously?
Why? That wouldn't change anything.
Of course Ono didn't decided how many characters are coming out by character slots quantity.
If only 6 are coming out is because they want to, or because it's the quantity that they could develop until the Arcade release. Not because Yun and Yang are in separated slots.
Posted by Poison on September 6, 2010 at 7:01 p.m. #186
"Oh yeah, that will be loads of fun.
Again, who's to say Poison has less relevance than whatever character you want?
Really, the only character I can see having any REAL relevance over any others is Alex simply because he's the hero of part 3."
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That's just it. I didn't pray to Ono that the Kung Fu Bros. Be added nor was I looking for the roster to be expanded. But you know what I'll concede what I said completely if she's included and not a total joke. Otherwise FFR is the only 1 vs 1 representation she'll get barring Mugen.
She's not a powerhouse, no supernatural abilities, no defined fighting style. She's the epitome of blah and hides behind Hugo.
To each his/her own but mark my vote under "meh" for Yun. Im glad were getting more so i guess im glad he is in. As for the whole poison thing i vote for Mayor Mike Hagger to return to office after he enters the SSF4 cast! He needs in before poison...
Yun is also in Capcom Fighting Evolution without his brother, but I do not recomend checking out that game.
Hahaha! Yang a Fei Long clone?! That's some hilarious sh-t. I can't believe this people...
Where does Fei Long has a Dive Kick? Or a rolling kick? Where does Yang has a flaming Kick?
Yang is completely different from any SF4 character right now. Period.
Also this is a new game, he will get new setups, with the FADC's or even get new moves like many SSF4 characters did. Also the ultras can be very unique and change a lot the playstyle of a character.
So, say he's a Fei Long clone has absolutely no sense. Specially before we get to even see him alive on the SF4 engine.
"On should Make yun and Yang a one character select box like SF3 Giant Attack."
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME F***ING CHARACTER ANYMORE!!!!
They only shared a slot in ONE GAME, New Generation, when Yang was just a palette swap. From that point on, Yang was not like Yun at all, and Yang is ALSO not like anyone in SSF4 either.
He's not a "Fei Long clone" just because he has Rekkas, because Rolento, Abel, and Karin also have Rekkas, but they aren't Fei Long clones either. Yun and Yang aren't that similar to each other, and aren't similar to the SSF4 cast.
After going back and playing CVS2 though, i'm really hoping that Yun doesn't get to keep Yang's rolling kick. They gave it to him in Alpha 3 MAX and CVS2, but that's Yang's move, Yun shouldn't have it.
Some people only see that Yun and Yang share the flip throw, the double palm slap, the dive kick, the overhead kick, and the super where they can attack faster, but they have a lot of differentiation too.
Yun was a lot more juggle-centric and reliant on his Gen'ei Jin. He had a lunging punch, a shoulder ram, and this set of 2 rising kicks. Yang has triple slash punches, the rolling kick, and the disappearing command dash.
Both brothers have a completely different set of normals. They only share 2 specials, 2 command normals, 1 target combo, and 1 super. They have 3 specials, an entirely different set of normals, 2 supers, and another target combo setting them apart. And even with the super they do share, they can't combo the same.
Def yun! You can see the cap and he looks to be pulling an ultra