Abel Super Street Fighter 4 guide heavily revised

these guides are great!

plz keeps these coming, best guides around for ssf4. big ups to nyoronoru and shinbison and who ever else for these.

Awesome!

Can't wait till the Honda page is revised.

Hey I dunno if this was posted yet but Video Games Live, a well-known traveling concert just recently debuted SF2 music at their show, in brazil. You could probably put this video in the Community News roundup section though, just a thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzhMLx...

I still don't understand. Every character has in depth discussions in the forum but I don't understand how you go about changing these guides.

I want the Cody guide revised next. Please do it EventHubs! :3

Great guide! Can't wait for the next one.

@5

lrn to avoid it lol. back dash, do an armor breaking move, ultra him back, or if ur point blank in front of him jump over him.

Breathless always lands because the ultra flash is extremely quick, giving opponents no time to think. I bet his super flash lasts longer than that.

Every character except for about three or four have a direct non-backdash counter to Breathless.

Just name your character, and I might be able to give you a counter. For example, Bison can teleport behind Abel.

@OdinReborn

no man I didn't mean it like that. I'm saying that people panic and make stupid unprepared decisions against Breathless because the Ultra Flash is relatively fast for an Ultra flash. That's part of the effect. There will always be a way to get out of Breathless but the reason people fall for it is partly due to the fact that it is designed to be a surprise, and activates really quick for an Ultra.
Think about other Ultra flashes. Designers expected Ryu U1 to be comboed into at all times so they made the Flash super long, so if its done randomly the opponent has all the time in the world to think about how to dodge and punish. Abel's U1 is expected to punish fireballs or be comboed into, so the flash can be as long as the designers wanted it to be.
Bison's U2 on the other hand can be used for surprise/crossup (and a combo but w/e) so its ultra flash is somewhat quick, giving little time for the other player to think. Same with Breathless. the best way to not get mindf*cked is to be prepared at all times with your counter in mind.

I don't think the quickness of the move has anything to do with why it's so good.

Basically Ultra 2 is just like Akuma's except better.

You can use it to punish a whiffed move. It goes through fireballs since it can absorb one hit. It's very powerful. Can be held or canceled and has next to no recovery.

The "Flash" doesn't really matter at all when you think about everything else it has going for it.

I refrain from using Breathless. Once people get wise to it, it's name is changed to USELESS.
Soulless is much better, plus it's combo-abel.

u c wut i did that

@14

If ur leting people cross u up with bisons ultra 2 u need help. Its to easy to just jump straight up and punch him out of it or atleast avoid it.

Lol....play Guile and grab Bison out of his U2 ftw!

Also, Abel's U2 does not need to be nerfed. It has good properties that makes it an OK ultra, but the fact that it can't be combo'd means there is always a risk in using it. Please stop sucking and learn to adapt.

@18

this

Abel players actually have a choice to make when selecting ultras and ultra 2 also gives abel a good weapon versus dive kick characters. As it stands now most characters second ultra either sucks(ryu,balrog,akuma,cammy ie) or is totally superior to the ultra 1 (bison, rose, guile ie). Instead of crying nerf u should ask to improve or adjust the other ultras. THis is why capcom has to stop the bs with patching/updateing the game every 6 months. It doesnt give people time to discover/learn characters correctly.

@17

i dont get crossed up. in fact I play as Bison and Fei Long. I know how people avoid/beat U2, i do it myself, u just gotta jump. I even killed a Bison U2 using Gen's Kick U1... However I definitely can land Bison's U2 against noobs who don't know about its crossup potential and on their wakeup for at least a chip kill. And it does have "wtf surprise" and punish uses. It's still fun to troll certain people online even when punishing nothing, cuz they dont know what to do. If Bison's U2 didn't work as such a good non-charge punisher, I'd pick his U1.

Breathless and Souless can both punish fireballs and whiffed moves. But Breathless can't be comboed into. So in high level play Souless is used more because people have knowledge on how to avoid breathless. Against those who are unprepared though, Breathless is quick and panic-inducing and people unfortunately fall for it. I only fall for it when I'm playing as a character I don't know well enough =P But when experienced guys play there are no Ultra "surprises", and Soulless does almost every punish breathless does...plus combos. So Abel U1 is better in the end imo

@20

If it works against noobs it doesnt matter. According to noobs blanka is broken. Thats the problem with capcom, there trying to balance for noobs.

@21

true that. just tryin to explain why i tend to see certain ultras land all the time when they shouldn't have. LOL at Blanka being broken, never heard that before but makes sense. I did get a online PM though one time saying "cheap" when i beat a guy as blanka haha surprise-forward ftw