Update: A second post about Yun has been added into this story, again submitted by Arc Rail.About Yun No. 1
It's been a while. The Developer Blog is resuming now!
To the many location test participants, we extend our utmost thanks.
Having taken into consideration such a large amount of feedback, we will keep on with our round-the-clock development in pursuit of the prime competitive fighting game. From today on we'll be trying to run at maximum output.
I thought I'd come tell you about the elements updated from the home version of SSF4, so first, I'll start with the normal moves breakdown for this new character, Yun!
Sounds like you you can keep pressuring him untill he has super just like in 3S. I wonder how often you could actually get in without using his ex meter.
Yes. Big thanks to Arc Rail. I've been waiting for this. Hopefully he gets the second blog post on Yun done soon.
Nice to see yun too..i m just worried about his super,i hope it is good like in 3s..!
Sh!t characters = sh!t.
Scrubs' game = scrubby.
@HanSolo
Because it wasn't in the script :)
What an odd place to ask that kinda thing.
@15 oohlookamonster
Just want to clarify that your word isn't final. Just because YOU don't want something doesn't mean nobody wants it. I know I know, asking you to NOT be selfish is selfish of me, but someone had to.
I certainly don't want to see new characters because I would much prefe to see my old favorites return. At least that way I know I get a good character rather than taking my chances (liked Uruk, didn't like hakan).
So, his HP and Attack are both below-average, and his Super makes him a combo master in a game that almost punishes extended combos...
3rd Strike fanboys, prepare to rage!
Dont care to know what moves these guys have. What I want to know is CHAGES to current characters!
Yun and yang imo were pretty lame adds. I really wish they would add the characters that people have practically been begging to see, like karin, rolento, alex, elena and urien. Mika may be considered a garbage character by most people but I really think she'd be a more interesting add bringing more personality and character to the roster as opposed to yun and bland...I mean yang.
they said that they fixed Genai Jin a little bit to make it suit ssf4 engine.. of course they saw it coming that long combos will kill him, so maybe they made his damage scaling while in Genei Jin different from normal? like every 2 moves is another scale instead of every hit like it is now :/ or his moves do more dmg in supercombos so you still can take away a good amount of dmg while juggling the opponent.
i hope it is the first one, otherwise Yun would abuse resets while in Genei Jin mode and that wasnt the plan of these supercombos^^
Some of his moves look like Rufus. If you look at the first picture, and the last pictuire.
Are people REALLY still bitching about the addition of Yun and Yang? Seriously kids, accept it and move on. You have 35 other characters to choose from. The world doesn't revolve around you. You've all spent the last however many months saying the same things over and over again. It gets old.
Actually, besides damage scaling, there is another system that makes air combos non-infinite. I'm not sure what it's called but what it basically is that it makes it impossible to combo with the same launcher move. I believe what they meant by Genei Jin changing the properties is that normal and special moves will be able combo longer. This will indirectly lead to increase damage but requires more skill to pull off.
They probably increased the length of the super so that instead of one long combo, you get more time and options for resets or mixups. This is more in line with the SSF4 gameplay anyway.
Based on what I can see, I think Yun will be to Rufus what Sakura is to Ryu. Similar moves but different playstyle.
Look at Yun's unique attacks. They were all given to Rufus.
His in RushDown style...Rufus!
Rufus WAS intended to fill the void for Yun fans.
Yang was more like a Fei-Long type with his Rekkas and his command flip. Even the Ultras now are meant to connect in the same manner.
Basically, we had Fei and Rufus, we didnt need Yun/Yang
If people didnt like their play-style before, I HIGHLY doubt adding these two will change their mind.
---Elena, Rolento, Hugo, Karin, Q, Alex...ALL UNIQUE STYLES. Nobody in SSF4 comes close to being like them!---
Heck, Even Twelve would have been a better choice!
lol @ people who think Yun and Yang play like Rufus and Fei. Honestly people need to get over the fact that they are in, we aren't being forced to play them.
And really even if they are in, other characters are in or nobody is in, it isn't going to change the fact that most of you will still be using the shotos. Those of you who "want" characters like Elena or Karin wont use them. Get real scrubs
It's not that we're being forced to play them, but that some of us feel it's resources that could be better spent elsewhere. Yun and Yang from my POV lack personality, I don't really get what they're about. In the end it comes down to whether Rolento, Karin, Mika and Elena make it in... if any one of those doesn't, Yun and/or Yang were a mistake, because they're filling a slot someone else should have got first shot at. If they all make it in, then I say regarding Yun and Yang that the more the merrier. And before anyone says it, they needn't point out that this is just my opinion I'm expressing; I am not denying it.
@25
"Are people REALLY still bitching about the addition of Yun and Yang? Seriously kids, accept it and move on. You have 35 other characters to choose from. The world doesn't revolve around you. You've all spent the last however many months saying the same things over and over again. It gets old."
...the reason why I spank my fish at night. Didn't you hear Capcom repeat over and over again," Expect the unexpected"? im keeping my fingers crossed because you never know what you're going to get. Even if it's yang, yun, or another
I really wanted to see Hugo or Alex but I know it's not going to happen because SSF4 is jam packed with enough grapple types and Hakan was just a complete waste of a slot, they should just add the rest of the alpha roster already *Geesh* A lot of the one's they didn't pick would fit perfect to the SSF4 engine.
#30: "I don't particularly wish for 2 more dive kick idiots to be added to this game."
Hate to break it to ya bro but Capcom clearly don't care about what you wish for. Probably pointless saying this but nobody's going to like every character, however that's not going to stop them being put in.
I despise characters like Dhalsim, Blanka and T Hawk and I hate playing against them even more. Crying about them however accomplishes nothing, in the end, I'll still play, you'll still play and people will continue to like and use those characters. So either cry more or deal with it.
#31: "lol @ people saying Im wrong but not how I am. Damn Flamers!"
A character having similar unique attacks doesn't make them the same. We can easily bring this argument back to the shotos who share the same 3 specials. Any argument you make about Yun and Yang having similar moves to any character currently in the game is void.
If they don't deserve to be in because of that, then neither does Ken, Akuma or anybody else with a remotely similar move to anyone else. There seems to be a serious lack of common sense around here
HATERS GONNA HATE. For all of you trying to talk some sense to the people who constantly say Yun/Yang are Rufus/Fei "clones", your efforts are commendable, but in vain. Just be happy with the fact that they're in the game, and ignore the people who continue to whine.
Actually, it's more like Capcom doesn't care about just you or the segment of the communinty you come from. The world is big enough that your opinion just might be in the minority even if it it doesn't seem that way to you.
Also, I also don't think you can reasonably say that Yun and Yang is the same character as Rufus or Fei Long just because they share a few similar moves especially since none of the the existing divekicks share the same property as Yun or Yang's. I could say the same thing about all the characters you just mentioned.
Why people are bit***ng about them,if u think capcom wasted slots then dont play them and stick to your mains..just dont cry saying people who like them should play 3s,this is lamest thing u haters can say..!
Well, I haven't played the SFIII series (I was so f*cking addicted to Capcom vs SNK that haven't played another game for about 10 years, 'till SF4 came out), so Yun and Yang mean nothing to me.
And #28, I'd main Karin if she make it in (She and Guy were may mains in SFA3), I'd play Rolento too (as I used in CvS2), don't call everyone "scrubs" for liking or disliking some chars, it's just "plain-human" behavior! As I've said, Yun and Yang mean nothing special to me, I'll spend a day or two trying to figure them out and I can even like one of them, stop playing Guy and Adon and make Yun or Yang my main, but 'till that day, those characters don't deserve any "hype" from me and I'll keep saying that I'd prefer Karin or Rolento!
I much prefer Yun and Yang over Karin, R.Mika, Q, and Elena, but I think the Twins should have been paired up. They could have had some sort of switch system (Gen) in place in which you'd have to press (Back or Down + Throw) (Gouken style) in order to activate the switch while the opponent is sent flying vertically in mid air. The switch could function in the same manner as MvC2 (Dynamic Entry!!!) allowing the two to switch without being abused. In this way, none of their playstyles would be sacrificed, no one would 81tch and you'd get 2 for the price of one.
#42. I'm addressing people generally, not anybody specifically. Yun and Yang being in wont affect anybody not using them except for maybe 2 new matchups to learn. People are blowing this thing WAY out of proportion.
Also get your facts straight, I'm not calling people scrubs for disliking characters, if you read any of my posts apart from those couple of lines, I even said myself that nobody is going to like every character. I'm calling them scrubs because they are saying stupid things like them having attacks similar to other characters being a reason why they don't deserve to be in.
Yun and Yang are great additions. Lame? Nah Roflmika, Karin and that banana hammock wearing weirdo Urien would be real lame.
Also the twins play nothing like Dufus and Fei-Long. If you bothered to play any of the 3 SF3 titles you'd know that dumbasses.
Rufus has 5 of the same move as Yang? I'm not sure if this is sacasm or not cuz I've only noticed the dive kick. The others seem like a stretch, a case which could be made for all characters. Like:
•Vega's and Gen's Rolling Crystal Flash/Jyasen respectfully
•E.Honda, Bison and Vega's Headbutt/Psycho Crusher/Sky High Claw respectfully
•E.Honda and Bison's Sumo Smash/Head Press respectfully •E.Honda/ChunLi/Gen's Hundred Hands/Lighting Kicks/Hundred Slaps respectfully
•Deejay's and Dan's Jackknife Maximum/Tornado Kick respectfully
•Gen's and Adon's Oga/Jaguar Tooth respectfully
And the list goes on. These are never called out for some reason despite being nearly aestically similar and some even offering similar properties and uses.
I'd rather take a real viable character than just some eye candy character. Good for Yun/Yang, please no Mika, Elena, Karin, or any of those true wastes.
yun is very unique he will be the only character in this game thats goal is build super and rape you, yang is less unique but still very different id say he is basically a mix of fei long, rufus, and yun mixed so he is still unique just less. I really hope they still put in alex, elena, karin and rolento tho. As they would add alot to the game as well.
japanese play marvel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5zRF8...
trust me guys dont judge a character by his...whatever you get my point. i didnt like Ibuki at first and was crying hoping she would be replaced for someone like Urien or Rolento, but now shes my main.
@ 49
"Dive Kick Pressure Characters in SSF4AE
Rufus, Cammy, Juri, Yun, Yang"
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Dive Kick Pressure from Juri? Officially dubbed a troll. Yun and Yang can't even dive kick close to the ground like Rufus and can control the distance so it's already different. Cammy can pressure, but that's just her play style. Besides you can block low on hers.
Let's look at it from a different perspective: everyone who can do cross-up airs tatsus. Ken, Ryu, Sakura, and Akuma. Do any of them have the same property? No. Is it even fair to call them the same? No.
I can tell that a lot of people ahven't played 3rd strike by all of the "HURR DURR Rufus and Fei long are liek Yun and Yang!" Seriously? Get over yourselves. Your ryu got stomped out by everyone anyways. Now you just get 2 more characters that will stomp you out.
I understand the complaining bout yun's super involving long combo's because of damage scaling and limited juggles in this game, especially after stating that he has low attack power and health. But the way i look at it is since as the developers are saying that his moves get alot of new properties to them maybe that will setup some really crazy resets opportunities, block string pressure (maybe some heavy chip damage to help it), and also (im pretty sure bout this one) easier/more damaging ultra setups for probably both ultras. A good example of the resets and block string theory is actually in the blog, since all moves are easier to combo and have new properties maybe a block string could used to setup either a flip grab for a easy combo, jump canceling for a easy over head/crossup, overhead to low mixup with little time to react with all of those options and good mind games that super could be ridiculously dangerous, especially with the flip grab being used to reset damage scaling and involving his S.MK launcher im sure will lead to damaging combos and ultra setups alike. Plus if his EX moves are good im sure there will be plenty of pressure options involving a strong mixup pressure with either block-strings or flip grab mixup. Basically to me Yun is sounding like he could turn out to be very fun and dangerous in the right hands.
@58: Yes, a character that only relies on kicking and has the only Super in any game which can actually HEAL the player is clearly just eyecandy.
You guys are almost as bad as the Steam forum...
Posted by Cornwad on October 25, 2010 at 3:57 p.m. #77
"They still haven't revealed Hugo and Q yet?
Yun is boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring with a capital boring."
You saying Yun is boring yet you mention Hugo and Q as a viable option is moronic.
@Mr_Clack
Yun and Rufus are not the same. At. All. Stop saying that. Both only got two moves in common. Does Yun have a Snake Strike? No. Does he have Galactic Tornado? No. Does he have a flip kick? No. And Rufus' Dive Kick only goes in one angle whereas Yun's go in 3, not to mention Yun's can't be done low. Does Rufus have a Palm? No. Does he have a Shoulder Tackle? No. Does he have a Lunge Punch? No. Does he have a Dragon Kick? No. They only one of the exact same move and one similar move with different properties. That's nothing compared to Ryu, Ken, and Akuma who have 3 of the exact same moves.
Personally I don't really care that Yun and Yang are in. Yun was in SFA3 and he was ok. I just really want Karin since I mained her in SFA3. I guess I'll use Yang if Karin doesn't make it since I love rekka-styled moves(except for feilong for some reason)
@Mr_Clack
i think the point that needs to be realized is that, Yun won't heavily rely on dive kicks..
Yun will however, focus on gaining meter for Genei Jin, lunge punches in conjunction with dives kick and shoulder tackles to close distance, while having a much more viable anti air with dragon kicks...
Yun will probably have a better rushdown game, but rufus will still own in pokes.
I'm already seeing Daigo main Yun or Yang.. besides, with all this arguing; people don't seem to realize that we might not even see Yun or Yang, until a DLC comes out, but i have a feeling that a new game with launch instead..
^ Don't worry to much about that guy. I shot down all his points earlier about them being the same and instead of responding he just went on to troll somebody else. Anyone with half a brain knows they aren't the same.
@ Jakulagi
You have good points about his game.
However wasnt Rufus goal was to build meter so he can use the GODLY Messiah Kicks.
But you are totally right about Rufus' main game is mainly all about Dive Kicks into combos. I do suspect that Yun's will be to close distance rather than annoying pressure.
-Speaking of annoying...I dont respond to people who have obvious anger issues. END-
@90
Yun/Rufus Similar Moves
Dive kicks with different properties(Yun cannot hit as low divekicks, different properties concerning blocking)
Most characters have a command overhead, similar animation does not mean much. Yun's is important on Genei Jin due to different properties too.
As for the PALMS, Yun's is a SPECIAL move. It also nullifies projectiles. It is only a command as the end of his Target Combo.
Finally, you do not know how Yun will even play exactly at SSF4 to claim he will be hard and/or overpowered.
Therefore, your CHECKS are retarded.
Focusing on a few similarities while ignoring the many differences is not a smart move.
@ LordJin
I wonder how many similar moves people need to see that Rufus was intended to fill the Yun Void.
"Most characters have a command overhead, similar animation does not mean much."-Troll (adding up with the other things I
mentioned)
I bet these people think Ken, Akuma and Ryu are Totally different!
Rufus and Yun only have 2 similar moves! Yun's Dive Kick can't be done low, and can be done at different angles, unlike Rufus. Check undone.
Almost every character has an overhead kick. Check undone.
That's only 1 similar move with totally different animations. Check undone.
90% of the characters are rushdown style. Check undone.
Again, 90% of characters are over-arrogant. Check undone.
Neither are over-powered. At. All. Check undone.
Ryu, Ken, and Akuma are totally different!
Sure, they may have the exact same moves, but their styles are not like each other at all. Ryu is all about zoning and pokes. Ken is about pure rushdown. Akuma is a mix of both.
Yun is looking awesome, but the horrible damage scaling + scaling based on health should be diminished a tad bit. Doing combos almost isn't worth it sometimes, and that's obviously in the game to keep lesser players from getting dominated horribly to generate more sells. Junk...it just so annoying. When you actually get good it kind of disappoints.
How about some new characters for a change?