Thanks to Mortons for the tip.
@1
Makoto and Hakan definitely need to get buffed but if anything nerf El Fuerte or remove him lol.
fuerte doesnt need any nerfs at all except for that ultra 2. but anything else could only use minor buffs nothing too big. some of his moves and normals are kind of doodoo
Wait, what? He just said Fei's ultra 1 isn't all that powerful? Granted, you can't combo in to full ultra, but it's damage is great, greater than most ultras.
But I agree, Fei Long hardly needs buff as it is, he's pretty solid.
Gen needs Buffs. I would like to see his M.kick to Hands combo back. Also vanilla Sagat.
fei long is ok as he is all we need is the following:
1. Hakan oil stack and a air attack crossup
2. Makoto EX hayate breaks armor
3. El Fuerte ultra 2 reduced
4. Dan we'll I don't know but make his EX Koryuken invincible
5. Sagat please no buffs for him he'll become god again
6. Juri should combo with fireball without holding to charge
7. All the others should stay the same
@Ingrid many of the issues you pointed out will happen. Vega got a buff, Dee Jay got a buff, Hakan got buffs, Makato got buffs,Gen is getting buffs, Cody is getting buffs. I did this interview for the Fei Long members on SRK. Yes I agree Fei Long is good but he is not great. Not everyone can play like Mago. Fei has no comeback factor. He has a very hard time against charge charaters and fireballs characters. I may be wrong becuse I never played 3rd strike, (Fei Long wasnt in it) but it was said Yun was like Fei Long and he could cr.mk into a rekka.
So again I did this fr Fei fans who got no news of changes being made to him in AE. I will interview Starnab and maybe Inthul as well this week and ask them there feelings about the buffs and I will post that for those Fei Long fans.
Gen needs some serious attention in regards to "balancing". His Ouga attacks are "semi-safe" depending on how close to the ground he is on contact. Block and throw all of his Ouga moves almost makin them worthless in high level play. No one fears standing over him on knockdown because he has next to no wake-up options...Gekiro on wake-up either gets stuffed or trades. BOTH his ultra's can be stuffed by normals and other random attacks. His Crane s.MP (overhead) should be a lil faster. EX Ouga should get it's original invulnerablity back from IV...if you don't want him to have wake-up game, as it seems you don't, at least let him have his escape tool in the EX Ouga!
That's all for now...
@koppok thanks and to everyone else who sends me thanks, I am humbled. It's my way of paying back to other Fei Long fans. Inthul has been a great help and he helped me improve my game. So this is my way of paying it forward to other Fei Long fans.
@ #18 and 22
Exactly what I was thinking.
Recently I've been using Fei Long and have come to realize what he lacks. For all the people saying "(Favorite Character) needs buffs!" Try playing as the character being discussed so you can actually have an idea about what is going on.
@25
no he doesnt. They need to need/change things to make him less of a ryu clone. Give him his command kicks, faster walk speed then ryu and give him the ability to cancel into hurrican kicks in the air(like in sf2). So u can do something like jump in strong(while in the air) cancel into hurricane kick hit the ground and continue to combo(adjust his ultra start up so that this doesnt become the easiest ultra setup in the world). Also something like that crazy belly flop move(he had it in cvs2) would be cool. Compareing ryu to ken really isnt fair since ryu has everything, they need to look other his frame data and tone done his normals, everything but his sweep is special cancelable and can combo into each other easily, he should be made more like ken frame data wise.
Its been cofirmed that guy is getting buffs as well as a nerf on his throw. It did something like 200 dmg but will go down to 180 or 150. Im not really that sure and I only play as Fei and that why I asked the questions I did. Again for Seth to mention these changes should tell all of you that that Seth and Capcom as well felt Fei wasnt on par with many other characters.
@11: I agree she's balanced, but "she's fine" to me is saying that there's no more fun a version of her imaginable, which I totally disagree with. A lot of her "improvements" were alterations to the rest of the cast. A lot of what was bad about her in vanilla hasn't stopped being true. The fact that she is pretty useless without a low cannonstrike says a lot to hilight what I'm not happy about. She has two bad moves, a mediocre one, two decent ones, and a great one. I'd rather they were all equally decent.
@33
the recovery is fine on most of them. Guile and gouken having fast recovery is fine when u consider the rest of there design.
I think cammys fine........More recovery time on her hooligane air grabs....For el fuertes his normals should b buffed....Agree on his ultras.. They take alot of damage..Nerf em alittle..Dj needs sum buffs as well so i can start using him..Dont think u should remove el fuerte-Thats just stupid---Oh & have a cancel like abels for cammys (CQC)& For fei.
#3 Guile_n_Nash-------- Why do u want el fuerte removed????? U cant beat him- is that the problem???SUSPECT----Dumbest comment yet......Your probably a guile spammer & turtler.....GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!
#Guile_n_Nash Go Home and be a Family Man--U FOOL------u TO Mr.Clack
@35
Buffs so u can use him? Honestly now, i bet u have no idea why he sucks compared to his turbo counter part do u? He doesnt need much. With his normals, his standing strong needs to be changed so that it always comes out as close standing strong(like it was in turbo for anti airs), low fierce needs to have its knock back reduced so that u can consistanly combo from it, stand forward needs to come out faster. His solid is needs to be improved, as it stands now codys solid is a faster verison of what deejay had in turbo, improve the recovery so that proper spaceing makes it safe.
The biggest change that he needs has to do with the straight kicks, they should be safe on block, this is his big pressure move and he needs to use it(it was safe in turbo), ex straight kicks needs to have lower leg invinciblity(this verison of straight kicks isnt safe on block)through out the duration to go over sweeps/low pokes(ie ryus low forward) and all verison knock down. Machine gun upper needs faster start up for more combo use.
With that deejay is no longer over shadowed by guile and has a good mix of def options and a solid pressure game(LIKE HES SUPPOSED TO HAVE).
please, PLEASE buff juri, she is my main and in general im fine but she has some really bad matchups, so i cant make up for them just training.
also fill sakura with steroids because i tried many times to use her but she has one too meny disadvantages.
#41-Usound like a scrub u peon..... Agreed on#38...Just having a hard time winning with Dj if his specials keep missing...I did all his trials but im having a hard time being aggressive with him....Hes no guile but DAMN i think he needs some buffs...DJ was awesome in hd remix...
you people have never thought that a character can't be like the ultimate character ? they need to have strong and weak spots ? I understand yun can combo into mk and rekka but why fei long must have this too ? now character must begin having some stuff other characters can do ? talk about being unique.
The only characters that should be buff so that they can actually competitive are:
Gen / Gouken / Sakura / Guy / Hakan / Makoto / little tweaks on Dudley
Fei long is perfect the way he is. Very fast, Strong, ok mix ups, good priority with some of his normals. Yes he must work his a*ss off against some match ups but he can'T just have 5-5 and 6-4 match ups now...
My 3 Mains......cammy-el fuerte-& hopefully DJ
can someone write what Seth K. said so we can read them instead of hearing them
Please please please PLEASE don't touch Rose, she is perfectly fine right now and if she gets nerfed, I'll be royally screwed. She can barely stand up against the Shoto crew and the rest of the cast. I can still pull off great wins as it is, but it’s really hard to do so, and a nerf in any sense would probably destroy her as a competitive character. Her Ultra 2 is her best buff, as well as her Reflect -> Soul Thow. Her Soul Spark is balanced, her slide is great, and her overall damage is balanced for her type of character, alongside her Throw range/damage. She is FINE as it is, leave her alone. A buff would always be nice, but I won’t expect one, nor do I care.
DJ NEEDS BUFFS........Nobody uses him online for the same reason i posted...........U cant be aggressive with him...And his specials miss half the times...Maybe not buffs but fix him or tweak his hit box....
TROYLIGHT--DUMBASS--ITS TRU----Of course your ignorance shows-U most be a shoto player-KICK ROCKS
@49
Well, i listed some stuff that would help him. Hes pretty solid as he stands but the problem is that guile does everything deejay can do but 10 times better whether its pokes,zoneing or pressure(yes guile can play up and corner guard like crazy). ALl him needs is some hitbox and frame changes. The hardest change to implement would prob be changeing his st strong(he really needs that change).
I personally think Rose needs a LITTLE tweak on her recovery on her soul sparks. except that she's perfect as she is now
I think they should just change Fei Longs walk speed. Make it faster!
His walk speed needs to be fast, he should have at least close to the fastest walk speeds in the game.
Shoot if they can leave everything the same or even sacrifice a couple nerfs on him and give him the fastest walk speed, that still would be sweet.
The fact that El Fuerte's Ultra2 was so powerful says how bad of a character Capcom thinks he is!
They nerfed him so bad in super with his special hit boxes they gave him a great ultra to make up for it now they are taking it away...As was said WAY early, ELF is the new DAN!
@56
dude she doesnt need anything. in fact her backdash should be nerfed. Wait i change my mind, ALL back dashs need to be nerfed. No more invulnerablity frames. It would still put u in an aerial state to avoid throws but if a poke is there u get hit.
I'm not gonna request that any characters be nerfed, as that would be unfair to the people who play them, and I don't think any characters need nerfs.
All I request is that Cammy be left alone and Gen be turned back to how he was in Vanilla.
Adapting to any changes that Capcom decides to make is the ULTIMATE CHALLENGE!!!!
C'mon people...challenge yourselves!!!
If you're asking to nerf someone, you obviously want a certain advantage over someone.
If you're asking to buff someone, you're obviously not confident in your own skills. Try training mode to find your TRUE potential.
@ 62 If that "abusive input trick" that loses to crouch-teching and STANDING JAB is all that your character has to remain competitive, then hell yeah those players are gonna be pissed.
Years of work, down the drain.
i've got a better idea to nerfing/buffing characters - why not just have it so every time *i* play, whoever I use is buffed, and my opponent gets nerfed. Yeah that sounds about right, do that.
Mr,Clack---------If u think hes the new Dan......Just dont embarrass yourself when u lose badly to a low tier character.........SERIOUSLY
El Fuerte is still a tournament contender,,,,,,
Thanks to all the people who gave me props about the interview. For those who had nothign but hate, I thank you too. I am not a reporter game outlet. This interview was meant for the Fei Long forum on SRK. I did this for me and them. It got picked up and posted around. I will say it again. I only play as Fei. I dont use anyone else. I dont care about any other character. If you would like to know what changes where made to your main then take the time to make the trip to see Seth if he is around your way. Its that easy. I went to the NY Comic Con 2 days in a row. When I had this interivew with Seth I had my 1 year old daughter with me. so if I can take my child with me to a big event that was a mad house and interview a person and ask what changes where made to my main. Then I dont see why cant you! For those who enjoyed the interview I will have Starnab and Interview together for my next interview. Go to SRK to see the video and even there first to 10 match. You heard it hear first from me!
Make all the characters ridiculously strong! make them the best that they can be.. add all their best moves from past SF games, within reason of course.. give everyone 3 ultras, 3 supers, keep FADC or add a newer better system.. New Stages, New Mini-Games, add all the SF character except, the ones from EX,SF1.. this way, there will be no cheap characters.. because
if everyone is cheap then no one is.. And newer, mind-blowingly awesome animation for everyone's ultras and supers..
@74 Nah, then it'd just turn into "Super Don't Get Hit Ever Fighter IV." :P
I don't understand how Abel's U2 is dominant, lol.
Vangief dodges it with a character who has one of the worst back dashes in the game.
Fei Long should get more "useful" ultras, both of his are pretty bad (with U2 being not good at all in high level play against defensive characters). Getting two hits off an ultra juggle (thus wasting your entire meter) and FADCing (wasting two EX bars) isn't something to be proud of.
El Fuerte: Highly Vulnerable,low priority, low damage, low health.
Many people are saying nerf his ultra #2....might as well get rid of him from the game. Be aware that his ultra #2 is harder to hit than #1(thats why I rarely use it)....sure it has priority and damage but consider how easy it is to avoid plus El Fuerte damage output is still garbage. I have fought a few mirror matches and still haven't gotten hit with it yet. For those who say he is tournament viable....in Japan yes since over there players learn their characters and there have a one character per fight no counterpicks. Here players often tend to go to top tiers since they are overpowered....besides look at Evo 2010 not a single one made top 25.
El Fuerte Makoto and Hakan needs buffs not Fei Long.