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FocusAttack talks Super Street Fighter 4 balance tweaks with Seth Killian

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • October 11, 2010 at 10:20 a.m. PDT
FocusAttack captured Seth Killian for a brief interview at New York Comic-Con to discuss some of the balance tweaks they're looking at for Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition.

This mostly covers Fei Long, but it delves into a few other cast members as well.

Thanks to Mortons for the tip.

Comments

Mr_Clack said on October 11, 2010 at 10:23 a.m.

El Fuerte Makoto and Hakan needs buffs not Fei Long.

#1
Struggs said on October 11, 2010 at 10:38 a.m.

If they give Fei Long a c.MK into Rekka combo he's going to be S Tier. He doesn't need it, he's already good enough.

#2
Guile_n_Nash said on October 11, 2010 at 10:48 a.m.

@1
Makoto and Hakan definitely need to get buffed but if anything nerf El Fuerte or remove him lol.

#3
Mr_Clack said on October 11, 2010 at 10:56 a.m.

@3
I know right!
If they keep nerfing one of the worst in game replace him with a contender like Elena or Q (He uses meter to Defense up now!)

#4
caruga said on October 11, 2010 at 10:56 a.m.

All I know is they need to undo the crippling Cammy has received, or give her some major buffs to her less useful moves.

#5
antisimagenius said on October 11, 2010 at 11 a.m.

yay fei long lol

#6
Adjacent said on October 11, 2010 at 11:02 a.m.

I want more of these! Keep hunting Seth down and picking his brain!

#7
MonkeyCha0s said on October 11, 2010 at 11:04 a.m.

fuerte doesnt need any nerfs at all except for that ultra 2. but anything else could only use minor buffs nothing too big. some of his moves and normals are kind of doodoo

#8
PzychoNimz said on October 11, 2010 at 11:09 a.m.

Wait, what? He just said Fei's ultra 1 isn't all that powerful? Granted, you can't combo in to full ultra, but it's damage is great, greater than most ultras.

But I agree, Fei Long hardly needs buff as it is, he's pretty solid.

#9
Sh3azu said on October 11, 2010 at 11:15 a.m.

@4

Like the idea of Q using meter to defense up, but it wouldn't be the same as taunting,it would jsut be another move.

Cool though/

#10
kondee said on October 11, 2010 at 11:21 a.m.

@5
Cammy is already EXTREMELY solid in her current SSF4 iteration and does not really need any more buffs. If they kept her the same into the AE and not remove her instant Cannon Strike (in other words leave her alone) she'll be fine.

#11
keNzo said on October 11, 2010 at 11:25 a.m.
#12
blzd said on October 11, 2010 at 11:27 a.m.

good to hear fei is gonna get a lil better i have been training with him lately and he is real fun to use hopefully they approve the dlc balance changes for consoles

#13
shadow050 said on October 11, 2010 at 11:29 a.m.

IDK why fei long is a topic of "he needs buffs"... it's vega who needs them... some others too, but not fei long lol.

#14
Super_Shoto_Fighter_4 said on October 11, 2010 at 11:46 a.m.

Gen needs Buffs. I would like to see his M.kick to Hands combo back. Also vanilla Sagat.

#15
Ingrid said on October 11, 2010 at 11:53 a.m.

fei long is ok as he is all we need is the following:
1. Hakan oil stack and a air attack crossup
2. Makoto EX hayate breaks armor
3. El Fuerte ultra 2 reduced
4. Dan we'll I don't know but make his EX Koryuken invincible
5. Sagat please no buffs for him he'll become god again
6. Juri should combo with fireball without holding to charge
7. All the others should stay the same

#16
BlackHart said on October 11, 2010 at 11:58 a.m.

Deejay needs buffs dammit

#17
pawn080 said on October 11, 2010 at 12:02 p.m.

(insert favorite character here) needs major buffs!!

#18
jason24cf said on October 11, 2010 at 12:19 p.m.

@Ingrid many of the issues you pointed out will happen. Vega got a buff, Dee Jay got a buff, Hakan got buffs, Makato got buffs,Gen is getting buffs, Cody is getting buffs. I did this interview for the Fei Long members on SRK. Yes I agree Fei Long is good but he is not great. Not everyone can play like Mago. Fei has no comeback factor. He has a very hard time against charge charaters and fireballs characters. I may be wrong becuse I never played 3rd strike, (Fei Long wasnt in it) but it was said Yun was like Fei Long and he could cr.mk into a rekka.

So again I did this fr Fei fans who got no news of changes being made to him in AE. I will interview Starnab and maybe Inthul as well this week and ask them there feelings about the buffs and I will post that for those Fei Long fans.

#19
FameDouglas said on October 11, 2010 at 12:32 p.m.

Gen needs some serious attention in regards to "balancing". His Ouga attacks are "semi-safe" depending on how close to the ground he is on contact. Block and throw all of his Ouga moves almost makin them worthless in high level play. No one fears standing over him on knockdown because he has next to no wake-up options...Gekiro on wake-up either gets stuffed or trades. BOTH his ultra's can be stuffed by normals and other random attacks. His Crane s.MP (overhead) should be a lil faster. EX Ouga should get it's original invulnerablity back from IV...if you don't want him to have wake-up game, as it seems you don't, at least let him have his escape tool in the EX Ouga!

That's all for now...

#20
koppok said on October 11, 2010 at 12:33 p.m.

Great interview Jason, thanks a lot!

#21
Sakura said on October 11, 2010 at 12:36 p.m.

*insert characters name* needs buffs!!

#22
Ingrid said on October 11, 2010 at 12:37 p.m.

@jason24cf Good to hear but im gonna hate Sagats buffs I have a feeling this is gonna be vanilla again

#23
jason24cf said on October 11, 2010 at 12:42 p.m.

@koppok thanks and to everyone else who sends me thanks, I am humbled. It's my way of paying back to other Fei Long fans. Inthul has been a great help and he helped me improve my game. So this is my way of paying it forward to other Fei Long fans.

#24
michizzle said on October 11, 2010 at 12:56 p.m.

I think Ken should have similar recovery to ryu for his fireball. I agree with giving more recovery on his LP DP. His sweep could use 7 frame startup.. please capcom.. lol.

#25
troylight said on October 11, 2010 at 1:29 p.m.

These comments are EPIC. They make me laugh the crap out of me lol.

#26
Wardog said on October 11, 2010 at 1:46 p.m.

What about Guy buffs? he really need some go buffs.

#27
Von_Kunlun_BOOF said on October 11, 2010 at 1:51 p.m.

@ #18 and 22

Exactly what I was thinking.

Recently I've been using Fei Long and have come to realize what he lacks. For all the people saying "(Favorite Character) needs buffs!" Try playing as the character being discussed so you can actually have an idea about what is going on.

#28
chickenwings said on October 11, 2010 at 1:59 p.m.

@25

no he doesnt. They need to need/change things to make him less of a ryu clone. Give him his command kicks, faster walk speed then ryu and give him the ability to cancel into hurrican kicks in the air(like in sf2). So u can do something like jump in strong(while in the air) cancel into hurricane kick hit the ground and continue to combo(adjust his ultra start up so that this doesnt become the easiest ultra setup in the world). Also something like that crazy belly flop move(he had it in cvs2) would be cool. Compareing ryu to ken really isnt fair since ryu has everything, they need to look other his frame data and tone done his normals, everything but his sweep is special cancelable and can combo into each other easily, he should be made more like ken frame data wise.

#29
jason24cf said on October 11, 2010 at 2:03 p.m.

Its been cofirmed that guy is getting buffs as well as a nerf on his throw. It did something like 200 dmg but will go down to 180 or 150. Im not really that sure and I only play as Fei and that why I asked the questions I did. Again for Seth to mention these changes should tell all of you that that Seth and Capcom as well felt Fei wasnt on par with many other characters.

#30
caruga said on October 11, 2010 at 2:08 p.m.

@11: I agree she's balanced, but "she's fine" to me is saying that there's no more fun a version of her imaginable, which I totally disagree with. A lot of her "improvements" were alterations to the rest of the cast. A lot of what was bad about her in vanilla hasn't stopped being true. The fact that she is pretty useless without a low cannonstrike says a lot to hilight what I'm not happy about. She has two bad moves, a mediocre one, two decent ones, and a great one. I'd rather they were all equally decent.

#31
Moosh said on October 11, 2010 at 2:23 p.m.

All projectiles need to be a little more punishable. I think Ken's projectile recovery is the model they should all follow, personally.

#32
chickenwings said on October 11, 2010 at 2:35 p.m.

@33

the recovery is fine on most of them. Guile and gouken having fast recovery is fine when u consider the rest of there design.

#33
denaycous_dee85 said on October 11, 2010 at 3:05 p.m.

I think cammys fine........More recovery time on her hooligane air grabs....For el fuertes his normals should b buffed....Agree on his ultras.. They take alot of damage..Nerf em alittle..Dj needs sum buffs as well so i can start using him..Dont think u should remove el fuerte-Thats just stupid---Oh & have a cancel like abels for cammys (CQC)& For fei.

#34
denaycous_dee85 said on October 11, 2010 at 3:10 p.m.

#3 Guile_n_Nash-------- Why do u want el fuerte removed????? U cant beat him- is that the problem???SUSPECT----Dumbest comment yet......Your probably a guile spammer & turtler.....GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!

#35
denaycous_dee85 said on October 11, 2010 at 3:33 p.m.

#Guile_n_Nash Go Home and be a Family Man--U FOOL------u TO Mr.Clack

#36
chickenwings said on October 11, 2010 at 3:38 p.m.

@35

Buffs so u can use him? Honestly now, i bet u have no idea why he sucks compared to his turbo counter part do u? He doesnt need much. With his normals, his standing strong needs to be changed so that it always comes out as close standing strong(like it was in turbo for anti airs), low fierce needs to have its knock back reduced so that u can consistanly combo from it, stand forward needs to come out faster. His solid is needs to be improved, as it stands now codys solid is a faster verison of what deejay had in turbo, improve the recovery so that proper spaceing makes it safe.
The biggest change that he needs has to do with the straight kicks, they should be safe on block, this is his big pressure move and he needs to use it(it was safe in turbo), ex straight kicks needs to have lower leg invinciblity(this verison of straight kicks isnt safe on block)through out the duration to go over sweeps/low pokes(ie ryus low forward) and all verison knock down. Machine gun upper needs faster start up for more combo use.

With that deejay is no longer over shadowed by guile and has a good mix of def options and a solid pressure game(LIKE HES SUPPOSED TO HAVE).

#37
chickenwings said on October 11, 2010 at 3:40 p.m.

@38

I meant cody/deejay's SLIDE not solid.

#38
juanrock said on October 11, 2010 at 3:40 p.m.

please, PLEASE buff juri, she is my main and in general im fine but she has some really bad matchups, so i cant make up for them just training.

also fill sakura with steroids because i tried many times to use her but she has one too meny disadvantages.

#39
roarmonster said on October 11, 2010 at 3:45 p.m.

damn, theres a lot of scrubs on this websight

#40
zUkUu said on October 11, 2010 at 3:56 p.m.

@catalyst
could maybe add a roundup of the confirmed tweaks mentioned in the interview to the story? I'd really appreciate it.

#41
denaycous_dee85 said on October 11, 2010 at 4:16 p.m.

#41-Usound like a scrub u peon..... Agreed on#38...Just having a hard time winning with Dj if his specials keep missing...I did all his trials but im having a hard time being aggressive with him....Hes no guile but DAMN i think he needs some buffs...DJ was awesome in hd remix...

#42
griever2000 said on October 11, 2010 at 4:19 p.m.

you people have never thought that a character can't be like the ultimate character ? they need to have strong and weak spots ? I understand yun can combo into mk and rekka but why fei long must have this too ? now character must begin having some stuff other characters can do ? talk about being unique.

The only characters that should be buff so that they can actually competitive are:
Gen / Gouken / Sakura / Guy / Hakan / Makoto / little tweaks on Dudley

Fei long is perfect the way he is. Very fast, Strong, ok mix ups, good priority with some of his normals. Yes he must work his a*ss off against some match ups but he can'T just have 5-5 and 6-4 match ups now...

#43
denaycous_dee85 said on October 11, 2010 at 4:20 p.m.

My 3 Mains......cammy-el fuerte-& hopefully DJ

#44
BADerRules said on October 11, 2010 at 4:21 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#45
troylight said on October 11, 2010 at 4:23 p.m.

lOOK AT HOW GREEDY #35 IS.

#46
ChunLi said on October 11, 2010 at 4:27 p.m.

Please please please PLEASE don't touch Rose, she is perfectly fine right now and if she gets nerfed, I'll be royally screwed. She can barely stand up against the Shoto crew and the rest of the cast. I can still pull off great wins as it is, but it’s really hard to do so, and a nerf in any sense would probably destroy her as a competitive character. Her Ultra 2 is her best buff, as well as her Reflect -> Soul Thow. Her Soul Spark is balanced, her slide is great, and her overall damage is balanced for her type of character, alongside her Throw range/damage. She is FINE as it is, leave her alone. A buff would always be nice, but I won’t expect one, nor do I care.

#47
denaycous_dee85 said on October 11, 2010 at 4:30 p.m.

DJ NEEDS BUFFS........Nobody uses him online for the same reason i posted...........U cant be aggressive with him...And his specials miss half the times...Maybe not buffs but fix him or tweak his hit box....

#48
denaycous_dee85 said on October 11, 2010 at 4:34 p.m.

TROYLIGHT--DUMBASS--ITS TRU----Of course your ignorance shows-U most be a shoto player-KICK ROCKS

#49
geni said on October 11, 2010 at 4:35 p.m.

yeah leave rose and tweak Dj a little bit, but i would strongly prefer to Nerf damn Ryu and ken! hahahahah bust seriously

#50
troylight said on October 11, 2010 at 4:38 p.m.

Ken is kinda alright for the most, but he needs more recovery with his hadouken and more range/hit-box with cr.hp. i will be satisfied like that. bringing some extras will do too.

#51
troylight said on October 11, 2010 at 4:43 p.m.

#50
Calm down...I respect what you said on #38, but try to think balance options for the characters, some people like to play.

Balance is the true nature of a game!

#52
denaycous_dee85 said on October 11, 2010 at 5:01 p.m.

I guess(el fuerte)FTW

#53
chickenwings said on October 11, 2010 at 7:16 p.m.

@49

Well, i listed some stuff that would help him. Hes pretty solid as he stands but the problem is that guile does everything deejay can do but 10 times better whether its pokes,zoneing or pressure(yes guile can play up and corner guard like crazy). ALl him needs is some hitbox and frame changes. The hardest change to implement would prob be changeing his st strong(he really needs that change).

#54
griever2000 said on October 11, 2010 at 7:58 p.m.

I personally think Rose needs a LITTLE tweak on her recovery on her soul sparks. except that she's perfect as she is now

#55
AnotherDFighter said on October 11, 2010 at 8:17 p.m.

I think they should just change Fei Longs walk speed. Make it faster!

His walk speed needs to be fast, he should have at least close to the fastest walk speeds in the game.

Shoot if they can leave everything the same or even sacrifice a couple nerfs on him and give him the fastest walk speed, that still would be sweet.

#56
Ett said on October 11, 2010 at 8:22 p.m.

Can someone please type some notes/highlines on the video?
Because I really want to know and i cant watch the video here.

#57
Mr_Clack said on October 11, 2010 at 10:39 p.m.

The fact that El Fuerte's Ultra2 was so powerful says how bad of a character Capcom thinks he is!
They nerfed him so bad in super with his special hit boxes they gave him a great ultra to make up for it now they are taking it away...As was said WAY early, ELF is the new DAN!

#58
chickenwings said on October 12, 2010 at 12:25 a.m.

@56

dude she doesnt need anything. in fact her backdash should be nerfed. Wait i change my mind, ALL back dashs need to be nerfed. No more invulnerablity frames. It would still put u in an aerial state to avoid throws but if a poke is there u get hit.

#59
Little_Goten said on October 12, 2010 at 1:55 a.m.

I'm not gonna request that any characters be nerfed, as that would be unfair to the people who play them, and I don't think any characters need nerfs.

All I request is that Cammy be left alone and Gen be turned back to how he was in Vanilla.

#60
popscythe said on October 12, 2010 at 2:16 a.m.

People requesting that an abusive input trick be left in the game need to calm down/learn to do the move legitimately.

#61
Tralarris_Smith said on October 12, 2010 at 2:33 a.m.

Adapting to any changes that Capcom decides to make is the ULTIMATE CHALLENGE!!!!

C'mon people...challenge yourselves!!!

If you're asking to nerf someone, you obviously want a certain advantage over someone.

If you're asking to buff someone, you're obviously not confident in your own skills. Try training mode to find your TRUE potential.

#62
Little_Goten said on October 12, 2010 at 2:47 a.m.

@ 62 If that "abusive input trick" that loses to crouch-teching and STANDING JAB is all that your character has to remain competitive, then hell yeah those players are gonna be pissed.

Years of work, down the drain.

#63
human_scum said on October 12, 2010 at 5:10 a.m.

i've got a better idea to nerfing/buffing characters - why not just have it so every time *i* play, whoever I use is buffed, and my opponent gets nerfed. Yeah that sounds about right, do that.

#64
denaycous_dee85 said on October 12, 2010 at 5:27 a.m.

Mr,Clack---------If u think hes the new Dan......Just dont embarrass yourself when u lose badly to a low tier character.........SERIOUSLY

#65
denaycous_dee85 said on October 12, 2010 at 5:30 a.m.

El Fuerte is still a tournament contender,,,,,,

#66
Zombie4u said on October 12, 2010 at 5:59 a.m.

Hey, fantastic interveiw dude! Thanks!

#67
jason24cf said on October 12, 2010 at 8:13 a.m.

Thanks to all the people who gave me props about the interview. For those who had nothign but hate, I thank you too. I am not a reporter game outlet. This interview was meant for the Fei Long forum on SRK. I did this for me and them. It got picked up and posted around. I will say it again. I only play as Fei. I dont use anyone else. I dont care about any other character. If you would like to know what changes where made to your main then take the time to make the trip to see Seth if he is around your way. Its that easy. I went to the NY Comic Con 2 days in a row. When I had this interivew with Seth I had my 1 year old daughter with me. so if I can take my child with me to a big event that was a mad house and interview a person and ask what changes where made to my main. Then I dont see why cant you! For those who enjoyed the interview I will have Starnab and Interview together for my next interview. Go to SRK to see the video and even there first to 10 match. You heard it hear first from me!

#68
denaycous_dee85 said on October 12, 2010 at 9:53 a.m.

All that 4 ssf4- incredible

#69
Jakulagi said on October 12, 2010 at 11:47 a.m.

Make all the characters ridiculously strong! make them the best that they can be.. add all their best moves from past SF games, within reason of course.. give everyone 3 ultras, 3 supers, keep FADC or add a newer better system.. New Stages, New Mini-Games, add all the SF character except, the ones from EX,SF1.. this way, there will be no cheap characters.. because
if everyone is cheap then no one is.. And newer, mind-blowingly awesome animation for everyone's ultras and supers..

#70
Little_Goten said on October 12, 2010 at 4:22 p.m.

@74 Nah, then it'd just turn into "Super Don't Get Hit Ever Fighter IV." :P

#71
Raven said on October 13, 2010 at 10:19 a.m.

I don't understand how Abel's U2 is dominant, lol.

Vangief dodges it with a character who has one of the worst back dashes in the game.

Fei Long should get more "useful" ultras, both of his are pretty bad (with U2 being not good at all in high level play against defensive characters). Getting two hits off an ultra juggle (thus wasting your entire meter) and FADCing (wasting two EX bars) isn't something to be proud of.

#72
latin10 said on October 20, 2010 at 10:35 p.m.

El Fuerte: Highly Vulnerable,low priority, low damage, low health.
Many people are saying nerf his ultra #2....might as well get rid of him from the game. Be aware that his ultra #2 is harder to hit than #1(thats why I rarely use it)....sure it has priority and damage but consider how easy it is to avoid plus El Fuerte damage output is still garbage. I have fought a few mirror matches and still haven't gotten hit with it yet. For those who say he is tournament viable....in Japan yes since over there players learn their characters and there have a one character per fight no counterpicks. Here players often tend to go to top tiers since they are overpowered....besides look at Evo 2010 not a single one made top 25.

#73


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