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Oni Akuma? Looks kinda badass.
I like the part where there would now be five "beat the game without continues" achievements. Perhaps the new ones are character specific? Either way, looks decently legit. Not enough that I'd go believe it, but enough that I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it turned out to be true. Odd that there are 160 new points instead of the allowed 200.
Leaning towards the 'fake' side.. Look at images 3 (Yun) and 5 (Ryu?).
Both of the achievement say to complete Arcade mode on the Medium difficulty or higher.
Oh, I also forgot the part where I complain because I don't like having more versions of the same character and don't care about Yun and Yang. For that, I must hope that this isn't true and there are more actually new characters being added instead of Angry Ryu and Oni Akuma.
If Evil Ryu turns out to be the only other new playable character I sure am happy MVC3 and MK will be out by this point so I'll never have to play SSF4 again ;).
Whaaat..!! I don't have any prob but i can see shoto hate coming,..
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO evil ryu, he's already evil, with all this METSU sh*t, would be waste of character, where the F*CK is Alex or Urien?
Probably fake since Evil Ryu has no real place here anyway. The Usual Shoto Suspects are all present, with Gouken being a nice change, why shy away from diversity with Akuma and Ryu's bastard child?
Thats what this game needs more shoto's and lets face it its been a while since weve all played a Ryu!
To easy to photoshop for me to even think about it beeing real right now....
Fake. Four of the same achievement ("Clear Arcade mode on Medium or higher without using a continue") definitely wouldn't happen.
Also, Arcade Edition isn't even out for ARCADES yet, and AE DLC was only confirmed fairly recently. They definitely wouldn't have this ready, especially since their "game" would have to be somehow connected to and recognized by LIVE for the Achievements to show dates. It's just not possible.
@Hadododouken - I agree with you that this seems completely fake to me as well.
However, technically achievements can look like that on partner-net when a game is still in development. I worked at Activision as a tester for several years so technically they'd look like that during development if these were leaked, just as an FYI.
However, I don't think these are leaked and it just seems bogus since they are all the same, etc etc what everyone else said above that I agree with!
Did it not occur to any of you that these could just simply be reskins that you fight in arcade mode? Even those descriptions make reference to fighting them in arcade mode.
It could just be Ryu with an Evil Ryu skin that you fight if you meet certain requirements(Playing on hardest difficulty, not losing a round, etc.)
CAPCOM plz add SUPER XTRA HARD MODE, this game is more easy than mario
people that are saying oni akuma.... you guys do realise that oni and akuma(gouki) means the same thing right ? which is demon....?
All those people posting fake doesn't know how games' production pipeline work.
Of course there are 4 achievements with the same text... the text must be approved and localized through other channels and is usually the LAST thing done in a game. Art and code get done much earlier.
Translation for the mentally challenged: The achievement texts aren't final.
Ch if This goona be in WTF Shin akuma evolves to Oni akuma
Actually, here's how you prove it's fake - There are 8 new achievements. These 8 achievements feature 2 worth 50 points and 6 worth 10 points. That amounts to 160 points.
DLC that comes with achievements always adds 200 or 250 points (I don't remember which) - not 160.
But first thing i won't accept the shin akuma in this now why because he looks the same as a akuma and he doesn't have Shin ragining demon and his new symbol white hair!!! if they give that to oni akuma bulls h i t its oringally shin akumas
@ #35 griever2000
Oni doesn't actually "mean" demon. The term Oni has been applied to numerous and vastly different demons and ogres in Japanese folklore, but the root meaning is actually more relevant to ghosts and spirits. And, as stated by others, Shin Akuma is already in the game. Oni Akuma looks like a new thing. He also literally looks like a new thing, in the little picture. Doesn't look at all like the Akumas we've seen in the past, still clearly the same fella, but some new form.
I agree with # 4 & 5 .....
If this IS indeed real, I am completely disappointed. SSF4 DOES NOT need ANOTHER Ryu! Of all the characters that COULD be in the game, it would be a shame that a clone of an existing character makes it in. UGh...... I havent been this disappointed since.......... the last disappointment!! LOL.
That's a little ironic Oni Akuma. Both mean Demon in different languages.
I hope this is true. I always loved evil ryu and shone akuma in alpha. I wouldn't stop maining juri,but I'd rather hunt achievements with them than Alex, Charlie, rolento.
That said, I'm sure they wouldn't be the only new additions.
Also, the achievement has the same description because its character specific. I think everyone is forgetting how vague the ssfiv achievement descriptions are. What makes me question authenticity is that some of the pictures are moving around
i think its fake..wats up with all the "beat arcade with medium"s??? ill be pissed if they add evil ryu..i mean really capcom??
if it its a Evil Character i but it will have a different move pool,a big ass hadoken that goes 1/4 distance and stuff we cant imagine.
Maybe its full potential Nothingness style Ryu or Gouken.
Can anyone here read? If these are genuine then Evil Ryu is most likely a boss character as evidenced by the acheivment text.
hopefully there just conditioned arcade bosses and they give the costumes of the bosses to the originals e.g ryu gets evil ryu costume
Most Likely Real.
2 weeks ago, someone i know with an inside source told me that Rolento & Karin are definately in the game and that they where considering putting in evil ryu and shin akuma as playable characters due to lack of time and the fact that it would just be a matter of pallet swaps and move set changes rather than a full on new character model.
I did not believe him when he mention evil ryu n shin akuma, but now that this achievement list has arisen, i'd say its real.. Unfortunately.
@Charliekun
And you sir are what we like to call a compulsive liar.
@GUNNAH_MAN
Lol hey, im just stating what i heard. so if it turns out to be true then I can point to that post and say "see, I told you so"
Really?!? U guys are scared of another shoto? The evil versions are always created just for fun. For all we know, their hp are probably will be lower than Seth's. Quite frankly, shoto's aren't bad. People needs to stop whining.
Do we REALLY need Evil Ryu he is evl enough as it is.
@CharlieKun
If what you say is true then capcom would be even more retarded than ever before seen lool the rolento and karin thing would be fine with me though.
if that IS fake they did a great job damn, i certainly wouldnt doubt that the "remaining new characters" are Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma. wtf is oni tho?
it looks like shin akuma is in too. judging by the 6th pic from left to right.
I agree with #36 there being 4 of the same achievement is just the fact that its in pre production. Maybe the 2 of the yun and yang ones have to do with the new tournament mode in A.E. and the other 2 are for something else. As for Oni Akuma or Gouken and Evil Ryu I would guess those are for a regular encounter with them as secret bosses and one for beating them on hardest
**Sigh*
People didn't notice, so I'll post it again:
"The obvious reason for 4 "Clear Arcade Mode" achievements is that each one requires you to clear arcade mode with the shown character."
That means the achievements are for clearing the game, once each, without continues, using Yun, Yang, Evil Ryu and Oni Akuma.
hey i think its oni-gouken. that second achievement has the character in a gouken stance. he has goukens bigger gut too. but now he has dragon ball z hair so its not making sense :P
i would make sense word wise... shin akuma {sastu oni hado} and oni gouken.
f**k you guys who are complaining about shotos. I'm f**king tired of all the stupid ass characters they have been putting in this game and for once we get evil ryu and oni akuma (which probably aren't even playable and just boss characters) and all you other jackholes complain about it. Just stfu and be happy we r getting ying and yang and this and possibly more. Damn it.
i hate when ppl get mad over characters, and trust when I say this much: WHY ARE YOU MAD OVER FIGHTERS THAT AREN'T COMING? LEARN to COMBO with what's IN FRONT OF YOU. there's a river of noobs that come here and not get the lessons that are here(and half the the time, these lessons are links to communites like iplaywinner.com, srk.com, etc!)IM excited to see some new matchups.
I think its safe to say that the people who play shoto characters are the same people who want more shoto characters like Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma in. The people who do not want shoto characters are usually the ones who play the rest of the cast of characters. Sure we all play with numerous characters out of the roster, but the question is ..... Who do you "main" with ? Shoto characters seem to be the majority of the characters I run across. I was playing the other day and I faced 7 Ryu's in a row! When I finally got past all of the Ryu's my next match was .......Akuma and then right after that, Ken.LOL......No wonder people say other characters like Elena are hardly ever used.
I think that each of the Medium or higher difficulties are character specific:
Yun - "Just Enough" Achievement
Yang - "Up to Snuff" Achievement
Evil Ryu - "Overwhelming Power" Achievement
Shin Akuma - "Transcendent" Achievement
(Character not yet revealed) - "???" Achievement
(Character not yet revealed) - "???" Achievement
With that being said, I think Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma are the next two characters going to be announced. And since people are saying that it's only 160 gs for all of them, I have a feeling that the next two announced will bring it to the full 200 or 250 gs.
So beggars can be choosers..How bout they give us nothing and you cry anyways.
Ha! yes evil RYU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im not even worried, i just know he's in, and is gOD tier lol.
Anyone who complains about Shotos should be HAPPY that Evil Ryu and Oni Akuma are coming. Scrubby shoto players are always gonna pick shoto characters whether there's 1 or 50 shotos. At least now there's gonna be a lot of variety: finally I won't have to face 50 Ryus in a row, now it'll be 25 Ryus and 25 Evil Ryus! So I won't get bored as easily.
Ha im not a scrub, and i don't care if i like Ryu lmfao, why do you Ryu haters comment about us liking Ryu, as if we care? LMFAO I couldn't care less about caring, about caring wether you Ryu haters died right now lol lol. You guys are THAT insignificant to me lol. Im sure to other Ryu scrubs as well lol. Ryu is the Best get over it, its why, the "BEST" SF player in the "world" uses him lmfao. You guys fail, at life.
Obviously if they are real they are character specific hence why each achievement has different pictures. I'm assuming to get to each one you have to either use a specific character or win matches in specific way (like how you unlock Gouken) to do fight them. Also we don't have a clue what either Shin Akuma or Evil Ryu play like, their moves could be completely different from previous versions of the characters. Highly unlikely but possible nonetheless.
And LOL @ "Awww but i wanted camp dan and slightly insecure ken".
Looks legit. I don't know why anyone would bother taking the time to produce...achievement icons. Evil ryu would be cool in the game, and oni akuma or an evil gouken would also be cool, whether it be playable or just as bosses. I'm hoping for giant sized DLC with new story mode, new endings, new bosses and also that anime that was shown when super was first coming out...where the hell did that thing go?
BTW, what the f happened to the announcements that were supposed to happen in Moscow? I'm disappointed that Ono has not trolled us into another character reveal. I mean s*** AE comes out, what? Dec. 20th? That's less than a month.
People screaming FAKE will have to eat their words when this is proven legit. Every time achievement lists leak early from partnernet, people scream FAKE and are proven wrong time and time again. Remember when an early listing for MvC2 showed up on partnernet months before it was ever confirmed? Countless early achievement lists have leaked early the same way and they're always legit.
Good, thanks for confirming that the DLC will be absolute sh*t so I never have to play this godawful game again. Hugo or Alex being in was the only reason I was gonna keep playing, if they're not gonna be in then I'm glad to put this terrible game down like a misbehaving dog. SSF4 can lick the collective a**holes of every person on Earth, so gonna ditch this for MVC3 and 3SOE when they come out.
@privatejoker
"I don't know why anyone would bother taking the time to produce...achievement icons."
I don't think you understand the power of trolls today, someone might even be looking to surpass ono lool
"zomg guise liek evel rye-u or onee acuma iz a wast of space guise. ill jus go bac to maraton gamin dork sessions wit WoW."
LOL at the childish, whiny twats complaining about every goddamn news tidbit or info about SSFIV: Arcade Edition. This forum resonates the rotten stench of eternal virgin basement-dwelling douchebags suffering from overinflated senses of self-entitlement. Truth of the matter is, most people are still going to play this upgrade, regardless of whether or not you cannot reimagine your pathetic Rule 34 fantasies of Rainbow Mika or Karin (or Alex or Urien, depending on which way you guys swing). Either way, it is still a month or two before its release; don't like it, move on toward another time-consuming, vagina-blocking, asocial misfit gratification game, plz k thx bye.
If this is a blog...... why can't people just put their thoughts or concerns out without the backlash and attack from the people who disagree with their OPINIONS? LOL... I personally dont care to see another shoto in, BUT that also does NOT mean that I am complaining about it. Anyone who has read my previous posts will NOT see me bitching about Shoto characters, only commenting on how many times I face them as opposed to other characters. These are facts from MY OWN PERSPECTIVE! God, I swear, sometimes I wonder why I even blog at all............
@128
Only a virgin could have the built up sexual tension required to rage as much as you just did ;). But good story, bro!
@120 lol a psuedo, intellectual, wise guy eh? Well, to rectify for those who can only read outside the lines, and not in between. I couldn't care less, about caring, about caring less about caring about caring less, about caring, and about caring less if you Ryu haters died right now. Is that better? ^_^ Just stay farce in everything you do k, thnx n have a nice day, and God bless lol. Oh, and the calling my self a scrub after saying i wasn't was intentional, buuuut im sure your big brain meant the latter contradiction lmfao. ggs
@ Malda...... Don't know what to tell ya bro... 7 Ryu's in a row. It wouldn't have stuck with me if it hadn't happened. Not complaining, as I could really care less who I am facing, just stating who I faced consecutively. Thats also NOT stating that is ALL I face. But when I play, It seems to be shoto characters more than half the time. After the Shoto's , I would say I face a lot of Balrog, Chun Li, Guile, M. Bison and Cody. I hardly ever see Hakkan, Gen, Rose, Makoto.
UGH..... let the backlash begin LOL
we already have lots of shotos. why dont u just include rolento, alex, urien or some one
Nope, I have a B average with Juri. I don't think that is scrub level. Sure I may not be a GRADE A player, But I honestly do not care to become that good at Street Fighter. I play well enough to get my wins AND my losses (especially considering Juri has little defensive options, low health, slow walk speed, and is not the strongest character). I am happy just being average. Not mad..... Not fighting. Just responding ;)
to the guy who copied my name....ur a scrub....and at @114 i agree with u totally bro....never satisfied...like little toddlers all they do is complain
Also, I highly doubt that being a 'scrub' level has anything to do with the randomness of the characters the opposition picks. Its based on favorites. Ryu is and has always been one of the Favorites of the street fighter universe. Hmmmmmm, maybe that contributes ??
Looks kinda fake...
If Evil Ryu is in, I will throw out my copy and burn it because that means that the other 20 odd characters I could pick from don't exist anymore.
Capcom needs to learn to make GAMES, not... uh...
uh... Screw it, sarcasm isn't even fun anymore. Stop whining. Or don't. I don't care and neither does Capcom.
In all honesty though it DOES look fake.
the majority of people online do use shotos the most. its usually ryu ken and akuma for me then those are followed by the infamous charge characters guile, balrog and blanka lool
SF fans don't complain about anything, except everything.
if they plan on adding Evil ryu and Oni Akuma(Demon Demon?) they better not get lazy and just recolor the characters and add a few buffs.
They need unique intros, taunts, and win poses. Like they had in CVS2. CVS2 Evil Ryu is the only ryu i've ever used.
@142
Fighting fans in general are the most hated fanbase in all of gaming as far as I know.
Hated by everyone else AND themselves.
There's probably more infighting here than in f---ing politics. But again, who cares? I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy Capcom's games.
Looks real to me, and here is why. IF it was fake I'd think they guys who made it wouldn't use the same achievement for most of them(Beat arcade on medium or higher) which leads me to believe it's character specific(as mentioned earlier by many people).
If I made it as a hoax I'd definitely make each achievement have a unique description and not the same one(just to throw people off).
Lastly on the Final Yun picture it asks to change the title and picture for the achievement. I don't know why but the fact that there is a small picture of a Japanese title and little avatar kind of make me believe it(lol).
this is starting to look like a 20$ dlc package and one hell of a download. Hope capcom dont run into issues with psn or live trying to push this patch out when the time comes.
and the whole oni akuma and evil ryu thing better be arcade mode only, if not they better have seth current health and stun stats.
IF anything if they are gonna do anything with ANY shoto they should ADD in more moves to Dan so that he fights more like Ryo and a better character overall, a version of the Zanretsu Ken which could work sorta like seths kick move would be a start.
the shotos are really clones the only difference between them is
1.Ryus hurricane kick knocks you away and ken's slap you in the face,Akuma juggles.
2.Same hadoukens except akuma has a air one.
3.Shoryukens are all the same except sakura's go in a different angle.
4.Akuma is really the better clone by having a teleport air FB and demon flip
its funny to see people get offended or embarrassed by what people comment about there comment and then try to prove them wrong by going on a rant to show how (smart, strong, knowledgeable, or not gay they are) lol
@131
What? Oh no no no. I meant by the fact of making a big deak of not caring about people hating Ryu, to the point that you would type an odd rant in which you state that you in fact don't care. But making such a statement turned on you making you in fact having the sense of actually caring about the fact people do voice hateful opinions on Ryu. Which is the contradiction I got slight entertainment from reading your statement. Might I suggest not typing a comment to show those Ryu haters you don't care at all what they think? That'll show them what for.
Isn't there already a Shen Long achievement? This really proves nothing.
@# 136
DUDE MAN get off my name with your butchered spelling of it. Seems like you had to rely on an off spelling and coping me lol and you calling me a scrub :/
@MrPavy: The only thing that is similar is the animations, nothing else. Also, every shoto have a lot of unique normals, only Ken, Ryu and Akuma share a slightly higher amount than usual, but most of them are light moves. Sakura is as similar as Ryu as Seth is similar to Dhalsim.
evil ryu, shin akuma....why? just inegrate it into different colors like sakuras Alt1 color 9 (or color 10)or let them become evil or shin by activating a taunt like guile which would change ONLY their appearance, not their hitbox, frames or anything else.
what do you guys think about this idea?
@ 136
You copied your name off of a 90's cartoon and misspelt it to try and be cool. Does that make you a scrub, as well? When you copy things you probably shouldn't accuse people of copying you ;). Just like if a thief has their stolen goods stolen from them they're not going to report it to the police...
Fail. What a waste of DLC. Might as well turn my head towards SFxT since nobody cool is getting added to this game now.
Would like Evil Ryu to be playable. I find playing Ryu pretty boring and maybe Capcom can make Evil Ryu interesting. I see this being legit but I don't think we're seeing EVERY achievement available for the DLC. Usually DLC adds an additional 500-1,000 achievement points. Maybe Capcom's planning on announcing Evil Ryu, Shin Akuma, and DLC in the next week
@156 cvs:
Given that "Satsui no Hadou" means "surge of murderous intent", I think naming a guy who gives in to that "Evil" is fine.
Y'know, Evil Ryu being in the game actually makes sense: in Ryu's ending for SF4, he's getting consumed by the Satsui and then in Gouken's ending, we see Gouken dealing him the final blow, sealing it. Now we get to see what happens in between.
As for Oni Akuma: now we get to see what happened in the Gouken v Akuma "fight for the cub".
Doopliss not when you consider he uses the original form of Ryu and Ken's moves the one that Gouken attempted to water down and Akuma was overtaken by the Dark Hadou so we're not sure how much that changed it
Anyway Oni in Japanese mythology are usually good or atleast willing to fight other demons to the benefit of mankind (Another capcom game by the name of Onimusaha played this up where you find out the main character has Oni heritage and uses it to defeat the Genma)
At the very least an acievement list is conformation that the consol DLC is in the works. We all know Ono would never of just admited it.
@20 as a developer I can tell you specifically that you are wrong A company for what ever reason can contact the service (XBL, psn, ETC) and ask them for a ghosted segment of service so that they can test the online achievements and achievements ETC. and they are not hard to get done and is a very simple string to implement in to a game.....
so saying that they shouldn't have the achievements done yet is kinda dumb as they can be mashed out in a matter of minutes I men the thing that would take longer is the art for them.
@153 DUDE MAN get off my name with your butchered spelling of it. Seems like you had to rely on an off spelling and "coping" me lol and you calling me a scrub :/.....and u talking about spelling??? come on bro...@157 was talking to you? or are u just dickriding #153?? either way stfu plz
They're probably Arcade Mode Bosses only...which would be great...neither of them are Gill, but still nice. **(^_^)**
PSN: Beatlab52Mr808
@178 C2Q: In the Alpha series at least, Evil Ryu has Akuma's Raging Demon, Akuma's teleport and Akuma's Shakunetsu Hadoken. He does NOT have Akuma's Demon Flip or Akuma's Zanku Hadoken. Basically he's a cross between Ryu and Akuma, lacking Akuma's aerial approach but gaining Ryu's Hadoken juggles.
That's from what I understand, anyway.
Don't you guys think that if someone went through the trouble to make all this fake stuff they would have at least made it more believable and not made so many of the same achievement. The fact that they are that way makes it believeable to me and just proves that they still are in development and will be changed later.
What's the rumor, 4 new characters including yun and yang? If that's the case then I really would not like Shin and evil to be the 3rd and 4th characters. It'll just be 2 different versions of 2 existing characters making it SEVEN shotos... I love the shotos but SEVEN!?!?! And ppl were complaining about Charlie cuz he'll play like Guile, or Alex cuz he'll play like Abel? hahaha... Wow. Just, wow... I really hope there's STILL 2 brand new characters brought back on top of Yun, Yang, Shin Akuma, and Evil Ryu. C'mon Capcom! Stop playing with us!
Oh ok, I thought e.ryu would have the air fbs too which would just make him like a reskinned akuma basically with more health and slower.
Anyway whats new with shin akuma then? Or oni whatever. I know Shin Akuma in the arcade mode atleast has a double air fireball and more health. Anything else?
They DONT play anything a like. But i think they ment two grapplers... i see them playing differently like Zangief and Hakan play differently. Especially if you played or if THEY played 3rd strike. Also, Charlie is gonna be different then guile in this one. It's a fact that capcom is gonna bring him back. Whatever, let's see what happens.
I personally have an idea for a new fighter.... how about someone who uses a grappling hook to cling to the ceiling and then can crawl across the top and drop down on foes? Or maybe use the grappling hook as a long range attack to pull in opponents or to knock them back?
@ Malda........ Yea, I must be a scrub then lol. Oh well, like I said. I don't care to be the best at Sf. I am happy with being average. AS long as have a chance, that is all I need. I still dont think having a B or B+ average is scrub. Average YES, But SCRUB? No. I don't lose THAT often lol.....
Off the subject..... But has anyone seen the Green Lantern trailer yet ? WOOT WOOT !! Looking forward to that and X-Men:First Class!!!! Next summer can't come fast enough!!
lol @193....couldnt have said it better myself
@193
I know such movies are stupid and for mindless audiences, but I can't help but like such movies anyway. lmao
No matter what movie you look at that's coming out of Hollywood, the storyline will be pretty identical to something. Pretty sure Batman Begins was too, since it's, you know, a Batman movie...
Looks almost exactly like what I imagine Seth would look like if he stole Akuma's powers Like that whole God Rugal business of CvS2. At least that would make the last boss a bit more interesting. Honestly I have been hoping to not see Evil Ryu (AKA less effective Akuma) in any more games for a while, so that could just be wishful thinking.
@#192 you mean someone that fights like larcen off eternal champions he does what you are describing for the most part
@162
Okay, if they do make the update, we'll obviously have to buy the characters. Who knows, they might all come in one pack instead of a seperate DLC for each 'new' character. Or they might even think of making the whole thing a new game if they're that greedy :|.
I can't way to SPD evil ryu and shin akuma once and clear 90% health. Bring it on.
Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Dan
These are the characters currently in the game that I would consider shotos.
Gouken is definitely not one.
Sakura is only AESTHETICALLY similar; however her Hadoken is more like Chun-Li's in function, her Hurricane Kick is more like Guy's Bushin Senpukyaku, her Shououken is vastly different from the Shoruken, and she even has a separate move that is utterly unique to her.
Sagat has the uppercut and the fireball but his fireball is variable between high and low, and he has no Hurricane Kick. The Tiger Knee is not the same.
Technically you could say that Honda and Blanka are too similar too - they both have a move where they launch themselves horizontally across the screen, another where they go diagonally upward into the air and then try to land on the opponent, and one where they hammer the punch button to unleash an attack the opponent has to stay well clear of.
But the fact is that little differences actually add up to different characters. Even a character like Hakan is only different from Zangief in marginal ways - they both have high stamina, both have 360+punch as an immediate grab and 360+kick as an attack where they rush at the opponent and try to grab them, but Hakan has the slide and the oil-up whereas Zangief has the green hand and the lariat. And their normals are QUITE different.
I'm actually looking forward to fighting against these new characters.
I never played Blaz Blue tho I have heard it was a really good game. And yea..... Eternal Champions was a awesome game back in the day! Would LOVE to see another version of that as well as Killer Instinct.
As for the movies.... I LOVE superhero movies. Who cares if a story isn't original. Hell, after more than 60 years of film making most movies are repeat ideas anyways or atleast borrow off of some other movies. Comedy, Horror, Action, and do NOT get me started on Romance LOL. I guess I am one of those RARE people who judge movies and media AFTER the release and not one of THOSE people who bash everything because it seems stupid to themselves. So much for expressing yourself eh?
@Phoenixrising77
"As for the movies.... I LOVE superhero movies. Who cares if a story isn't original. Hell, after more than 60 years of film making most movies are repeat ideas anyways or atleast borrow off of some other movies."
True, Lol, there's even an entire site that covers this............Tvtropes.com
I'm leaning towards fake, but I suppose only time will tell.
Hmmm, Evil Ryu, I would have guessed that Ryu had gotten past the Killing Intent by now.
And if he's playable, I wonder if he'll get the same treatment as he did in Alpha 3... I'd prefer to have him as an optional opponent that, if you lose to (Like the mini-Bosses in the KoF series (Like Shingo in 98)) you still continue (Even though he'd probably kill you in terms of reality, but, this is Street Fighter, not a KoF boss.).
In terms of Shin Akuma, 'bout time we had a Boss return. Haven't gotten to fight him since CvS2. And that's been a while. Almost a decade.
Wonder when people realize that Capcom PROBABLY knows what they are doing, and are making Evil Ryu and Shin Gouki/Akuma/What ever you wanna call him bosses only, like Bison was back in SF2 Vanilla or SF32I. Can't wait to see the new two characters (I'm pretty sure that Alex is a VERY good possibility for a new character. It isn't set in stone that any of these people aside from Yun and Yang are in.)
Love the new boss that looks worse than fighting God Rugal!
I hope it's a fake. "Set your title and icon from one of the new ones" doesn't seem like a legit achievement anyway.
Evil Ryu is fine with me as long as he doesn't replace Elena on the roster.
I saw this coming. Fanboys been waiting for this. Just thought capcom would put more effort into putting fighters people actually want. Honestly who wanted Makoto & Ibuki. Nobody even use's them. Then we have two classic fighters(thawk-deejay) and people pass right by them. I thought this was a game to counter shotos, not to make them stronger or put other versions of em. Maybe these are bosses and wont be playable. Eh who knows, when are they gonna reveal new characters already. Been waiting for alex,hugo, & rmika already. Yun-Yang-i can take,but evil ryu and shin akuma????? I already have problems against there normal versions. Now this. !~! sigh............ Next they'll announce Bisons unstopable ultra from sfa3. Gimme a break.
Y'know, it's just occurred to me that it would've made far more sense to have "Transform into Shin Akuma" be Akuma's second Ultra - if he takes that much damage, he'll take his opponent seriously and stop holding back, gaining stronger and better moves but lowering his defence even further. That way you get a (technically) overpowered character, but at the cost of having to lose half your health first and having no access to an Ultra which actually does anything itself, as well as less defence.
Sorry but if these were character specific achivments it would state otherwise. Or else we would just earn a 1 for 5 Acheivment for beating arcade mode. Just does'nt make sense, im gonna have to call a convincing fake.
The Icons do look legit but you can't put anything past photoshop ever. i'll wait for the official stuff.
I've held back from commentating but I'm surprised no one has mentioned that this may be more than your average leak.
Super went above and beyond. Tweaks, music, cut scenes and 10 new characters. It truly went above and beyond.
Now with AE we are getting a rumored tweaks, costumes (though were getting those now) and six new characters. Great
And here's my point, these characters were supposed to remain secret until much later. We will get six characters but these were timed releases like Akuma in the original arcade OR they were going to appear on both the Arcade and DLC when the DLC was released.
That's all assuming this isn't a planned leak of course, but with Capcom's fabulous track record these days I imagine they're erring on the side of more rather than less.
@220 who said evil ryu was in the game? this is just the rumor mill, as usual
If I were Capcom, I'd have killed off two out of the three true shoto clones along time ago but alas it is too late for that. They all have tremedous fan following.
There are only a handful of Shotos, whom I do not mind being presented in a game simultaneously, b/c their gameplay warrants their individuality. These include Akuma, Gouken, Sakura, and Sean.
Anyway, I would not mind if any of their character models were swapped in place of Ryu's and Ken's character model to appeal to the greater fans if that's what it takes to keep the shotos at a minimum. I think Evil Ryu, for example, could easily replace Akuma and effectively replace the standard Ryu as well. Dan and Sean could easily be fused into one character. Gouken's movesets could be split into the 4 remaining shotos; Evil Ryu, Ken, Sakura, and Dean(Lol Dan and Sean respectfully, he'd be a brown skinned, ponytailed character).
By reading the achievement descriptions, the first two are from defeating Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma in arcade mode (most likely to unlock them as playable) and then the next 4 are beating arcade mode with the pictured characters.
Maybe the text isn't finalized, like was mentioned towards the top. Maybe this is all fake. We won't know until someone tells us. Basing the text and gamerscore as the sole reason for it to be fake is stupid though. Fallout 3's DLC didn't have 200 or 250 gamerscore for each release, no reason to assume that every game has a set gamerscore rule to follow. Microsoft just likes to require DLC with achievements to cost money.
Personally, I hope this is fake. Still hoping to see 6 characters released and this debunks that rumor.
@221 no one plays with Ibuki or makoto because they're hard to win with. The execution requirements are high and most people don't have the time or skill to learn them. When ssf4 first releases, lots of people played both characters until they realized the execution barrier was too high. Those chatacters were actually picked by a popularity poll conducted by capcom.
Check. Your. Facts.
i hope its fake! well it is obviously fake! lets be clear and stop acting childish... for those who are waiting for alex or charlie nash should immidiatly stop acting idiots and stop dreaming... use your minds! there is guile so no way charlie (gonna be repetetif). there is abel (so no way alex). its obvious! they won't create the same similar characters in gameplay...be creatif and dream about others (those who are a bit unique in playing, as yun and yang)
how about we fix the god damn lag b4 we start adding ppL!
Don't know what to make of this.
Evil Ryu? More like Akuma-Lite.
@elkalam
Charlie may play like Guile but Alex does not play like Abel at all. Your judgment is soley based on name, appearance (hair color/body stature) and character type (grappler); none, save for the latter, have a direct affect on gameplay. Not even from an Akuma/Gouken(similar moves, different geometry) standpoint are they remotely similar. Bison is closer to E.Honda than what Alex is to Abel from a gameplay perspective.
@GodPride
well, i respect your opinion, but i believe that abel is a sort of replacement for alex for many reasons (its like necro replacing dhalsim).
Alex does have ground and air grapples as abel and also the crouching strong punch that make you air. The alternative costume for abel also reflects alex costume to me (the same as guile costume as charlie)
akuma and gouken are similar right but they are important to the game which makes them as a ken ryu rivalry.
i don't believe alex will be on ssf4 my friend. i really don't, neither hugo by the way lol
damn after looking at this again that is definitely not Akuma. that is Seth with Akuma hair imo, UNLESS they changed Akuma's model(which i dont think capcom would do, so maybe fake). maybe thats why they changed Seth's j.HP, cause hes getting air fireball lol.
Griever2000, you are mostly accurate in that oni and akuma are synonymous, but while "Gouki" has similar meanings, it's based on semantics. Fake or not, the idea of an "Oni Akuma" does sound redundant but then again, too many people are on the same bandwagon, ASSUMING it's Gouki/Akuma at all, and not a "super" Evil Ryu or a "Shin" Gouken. Gouki and Gouken travel opposing paths, morally, but the blue/purple skin may imply an opposite to Gouki's dark, reddish skin. It's JUST an idea, of course. Speculation trolls will get the best of you if you read too much into some of the crap in these forums. Lol
Whats better than 2 new characters? 2 new bosses!
@246 Necro "replaced" Dhalsim AND Blanka, but didn't replace either at the same time. You can compare all you want, but I can produce a bulleted list to show every difference down to the smallest detail and make you look dumb for ever suggesting that Alex = Abel or Necro = Dhalsim.
I do, however, agree that Charlie should not be in the game as he is much too close to being an exact clone of Guile.
I don't know how people say shotos are scrubby and that blanka and dhalsim aren't....
Then one of you dumbasses will be like "THEYRE NOT SCRUBBY YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO FIGHT THEM" and all I have to is well no sh*t but they still play like pu**ys
Besides characters like Guile and Bison aren't the HARDEST CHARACTERS EVER TO USE. I'm an Akuma and Gouken main (yeah they're both my mains), and I submain guile and bison and don't find them OMG SO MUCH HARDER TO USE. In fact I hate Ryu and Ken players cuz most of them do cheap stuff but I don't find the addition of shotos a bad thing.
Idk why anyone would b*tch over Capcom putting boss characters who probably aren't playable in Super Street Fighter IV.
And why the hell do people still complain like "OH I WANT THIS CHARACTER I WANT THAT CHARACTER' especially third strike characters. If you love third strike characters, PLAY THIRD STRIKE. SFIIITS is probably a lot harder game to master than SSFIV and still has a good community of players who play competitively.
The point is that most of you guys who are complaining should just shut the f*ck up and be happy we get two cool boss characters. Like wtf do you want "YO I WANT SHIN GUILE AS A BOSS CHARACTER" That would be freaking stupid, I don't know what you guys are thinking.
Let's just assume for a second that this is real. Where the hell is anyone getting that these characters won't be playable? Look at the achievements. They have four for clearing Arcade mode, one for each character. How would you possibly be able to clear Arcade Mode with Evil Ryu or this other guy if they weren't playable, you geniuses?
@RyuHado
LMFAO!!!!!!!! It's funny how you say the game needs more "Street Fighters" when the only actual street fighter is Cody.
Like someone mentioned earlier it could be Gouken, if it is real that is. Akuma has a red aura and when he unleashes his true power and becomes Shin Akuma his skin gets a dark reddish color. In Gouken's SF4 ending he has a blue aura so this could be like his enhanced version. Nothingness Gouken lol. That still doesn't explain how he got his hair though. Regardless even if the new characters are just powered up versions of already existing characters I won't care. I will still play the game. If you don't like them then don't use them.
I told you all it would be Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma. No one listened. You should.
I would imagine that the text is the same because its telling you to beat the game using that character, but because of text limits they probably didn't have space to put the character name in the actual description.
@38 (MajinTenshinhan)
Well, I don't think this is real, but your argument is flawed. Here's why;
Mass Effect 2: Revenge DLC - adds 15G through 1 achievement
Mass Effect 2: Stolen Memories DLC - adds 15G through 1 achievement
Mass Effect 2: Overlord DLC - adds 25G through 2 achievements
Mass Effect 2: Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC - adds 200G through 5 achievements
#118 is right thats the same pic from alpha 3 after you beat the game with E.Ryu. Either Capcom is recycling old artwork or it's a fake.
E.Ryu deserves to be in SSF IV! Gamestyle is different and for those who actually care its storywise different as well. I'd love to see an E.Ryu vs Akuma in SSF IV. Also E.Ryu was and still is one of the best characters in Street Fighter. Street Fighter is nothing without shotos and Capcom knows it. I laugh hard when i see comments like "i want Elena, Alex and Q plss!!!" YEAH RIGHT! You f@gs want characters you do not even use! You just say that you want them so people will think that you are pro players or something! LONG LIVE THE DARK HADO !!!
To those claiming bull because the achievement texts are extremely similar - when you unlock an achievement in SSFIV on 360, the description text changes to either a more "character specific" text or to a plain, bog standard "got all titles" etc etc. My bet is that these are SEPARATE achievements for each of the characters.
Also, stop the whining "OH I'M NOT GUNNA BUY BECAUSE OF XXXXX CHARACTER" . I hate Yun and Yang, but I'm grown up enough to put aside my personal preferences and buy the damn DLC SO I WON'T GET LEFT BEHIND AFTER THE UPDATE. Besides, It's not like any of us have, y'know, USED THEM YET, so keep your remarks till you have.
(On a random note - Evil Ryu? I'm actually okay with this. Shin Gouken - Eh, why the hell not?)
I would of preferred to see new characters rather than different iterations of the same character. Yun and Yang, I look forward to. Evil Ryu, no.
I think it's just lazy on Capcom's part to put in another Ryu, albeit an Evil one.
@EnkiduV3 246:
Exactly i agree ! as necro is a sort of replacement for dhalsim and blanka you are right ;)! the same goes with abel and alex in my opinion my bro.
ps: why saying :"make me look dumb"? we re just exchanging our thoughts about characters and because we love the game we innovate and immagine! come on, peace out bro
Some of these are clearly fake...while other could be true. 2 of them are for beating arcade mode without using continues, which is all ready an achievement in the game...so are they planning on having repeat achievements? kinda silly. I do hope the evil ryu one is real though :)
personally i think oro Q necro 12 and a few others need to make an appearance, more crazy characters like hakan :P
More scrubs to play similar characters. Hell throw in evil dan,evil sakura, and sean for the hell of it. Oh & master gotetsu. Gimme a break & kick rocks with this cr@p.(wait a minute-master gotetsu,hhmmm) well more shotos for useless scrubby players. Dont be surprised if u play 15- 20 matchs that just consist of shotos. Man give us some characters people keep demanding like hugo,rmika & alex. Forget people playing non shotos, this is a shoto fest & dont wanna be part of it. Evil Ryu is fine.Akuma is already evil, but if it helps his gameplay. And a transformed Gouken. Throw another new shoto in the mix, then fanboys would really be happy. This is ridiculous. Then people get knocked for wanting Charlie in the game. UNREAL!
Evil Ryu, can't wait to play as him. Seeing how he has two ultras will one of them be a charging Metsu Hadoken like it was in Capcom Vs SNK 2? I also recall Ono or someone from CAPCOM saying that there will be 6 additional characters, but all of them are going to be returning characters. So far it seems that Evil Ryu, Yun, and Yang are confirmed. This "Oni" character seems new, unless it's a playable Shin Akuma or better yet.......VIOLENT KEN!
I REALLY hope this is true, but it's a bit weird that many achievements say the same thing.... So there may be only like 2-3 achievements at the end. What ever! Just give us more! ^_^
LOL guys " as if u ever could defeat me in arcade mode" that means ? huh come on u know it they are new bosses after seth instead of "akuma" that can walk faster and throw 2 fireballs in the air or "gouken" that can fire a charged fire balls without chargin' so if its not a fake then expect these two as new bosses after seth
ono had post something i dont know when but the Q was
"Can we get evil ryu as a playable char"
Ono : "Do you really need him"?
If these are legit, they are arcade bosses, but also playable, no discussion. I don't know why people say otherwise.
You can't get away with boss-only characters nowadays unless they're super big or stationary or something and wouldn't fit into the game, like Azazel in Tekken 6, or they are just buffed versions of a playable character, like the bosses in SSFIV.
"If these are legit, they are arcade bosses, but also playable, no discussion. I don't know why people say otherwise.
You can't get away with boss-only characters nowadays unless they're super big or stationary or something and wouldn't fit into the game, like Azazel in Tekken 6, or they are just buffed versions of a playable character, like the bosses in SSFIV."
How can you possibly say there's no discussion without suggesting that evil ryu and shin akuma may just be upgraded versions for the arcade mode.
Is that blue one Shin Akuma or something?