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DMG Inthul Fei Long Super Street Fighter 4 matches

Posted by Catalyst
May 26, 2010 at 8:41 p.m. PDT
Seb at Frame-Advantage.com wrote in to let everyone know that a few matches of the PS3 pad playing Fei Long, DMG Inthul, who made a huge splash at East Coast Throwdown 2, have been posted to YouTube.

This includes the set against Sanford Kelly, one of the top SSF4 players in America.

You can find more DMG Inthul fights from East Coast Throwdown 2 on Frame-Advantage.com's YouTube channel.

Comments

Von_Kunlun_BOOF said on May 26, 2010 at 8:43 p.m.

amazing how that guy uses a controller!

#1
Jarkyttaa said on May 26, 2010 at 8:48 p.m.

While he didn't do quite as well here, it would be well-worth looking for videos of Wolfkrone at Midwest Championships, if you're interested in very decent pad-play.

#2
TopT said on May 26, 2010 at 9:07 p.m.

damn, he even got a trophy for the ps3. Also, that dude making the hyena sound in the background was awesome!

#3
blzd said on May 26, 2010 at 9:18 p.m.

i gotta adnit fei long feels way better obn pad for mr im not good at all with fei but pad helped me alot with his trials

#4
VegaBisonAbel said on May 26, 2010 at 9:23 p.m.

funny how sanford's groupies tried to mess up inthul by talking ish, then sanford get perfected 2 rounds later.

#5
AceKillah said on May 26, 2010 at 9:23 p.m.

The Return of PadLong!!!

#6
Kimosabae said on May 26, 2010 at 9:24 p.m.

*Trophy Unlock*

"Peed on Sanford!"

-SynikaL

#7
KAZZNORE said on May 26, 2010 at 9:31 p.m.

What's the deal with the pad? i mean i have never touch a AS in my entire life and am pretty average. Is not like iis a science to use a pad. sheessh come down. He is pretty SKILLED doe.

#8
Catalyst said on May 26, 2010 at 9:39 p.m.

Sanford was VERY classy after Inthul beat him too. Big kudos to Sanford for showing how to take a loss and do it with honor.

#9
Jigo said on May 26, 2010 at 9:39 p.m.

Just goes to show teirs are not everything. Play who you want and shut everyone up. I went to a tourney and beat a Sagat,Boxer,and a Ken in SF4. Nothing was sweeter, and these guys thought I was free..hell no.

#10
Sektah84 said on May 26, 2010 at 10 p.m.

Pads FTW!!!! I actually play better on pad with certain characters than on stick ibuki,fei and Abel.

#11
KryptonianBaby said on May 26, 2010 at 10:08 p.m.

This guy must practice 4 times as hard as everybody else to be able to do that with a pad. Respect.

#12
liluoke said on May 26, 2010 at 10:32 p.m.

lol funny how this is news, but it is newsworthy because few people have made such an impression with a character who everyone looked down upon

#13
WiNGSPANTT said on May 26, 2010 at 10:39 p.m.

The best part was not only does he perfect Sanford, he earns a trophy while doing it! LOL!

#14
caruga said on May 26, 2010 at 10:47 p.m.

I don't understand why Sanford ate all those hits in the second round. Can someone explain?

#15
akumous said on May 26, 2010 at 10:58 p.m.

PS3 controller is sufficient for SF it has always been, especially the prior controllers. As most people said already, the PAD makes using certain characters easier as opposed to the stick.

Anyway, I am glad an American player is using Fei Long and giving recognized players a run for their money and beating up the most popularized characters. As I said before, it isn't the character the makes the player it is the player. Mad props out to that guy.

#16
tmfan said on May 26, 2010 at 11:04 p.m.

Hey, no need to knock the pad. I myself have switched BACK to my good old fightpad from my TE stick. It's not that I sucked with the TE stick. I feel like I am much more responsive with a pad than a stick. I'm glad pad players like Shizza and Inthul represent pad users against arcade stick elitists.

#17
tmfan said on May 26, 2010 at 11:05 p.m.

P.S. Inthul, the time to dethrone StarNab and Mago as the best Fei Long players is now. Go for it.

#18
Hadookie said on May 26, 2010 at 11:14 p.m.

He must have a thumb callus made of STEEL to rock the pad that hard

#19
Flawless said on May 26, 2010 at 11:40 p.m.

Clovr4Lyf you must be a complete scrub if you think Justin Wong is winning tournys cuzz he had a 3 month headstart btw where are those MM's videos where Sanfords Sakura raped Inthul Fei o thats right everybody disses Sanford when he looses but when he wins no one says a thing.

#20
Fiscal said on May 26, 2010 at 11:42 p.m.

Due to the input leniency of the SF4 series players can get away with a degree of sloppiness that would not fly in other 2D fighters. Hence, the precision afforded by a joystick over a pad is not nearly as significant.

#21
ds123 said on May 27, 2010 at 12:25 a.m.

Honestly, what is the big deal with thinking you can't win with a pad? If you're character isn't doing Kara moves, it's really not that big a deal if you can get around not being able to p-link.

I remember when I first played SF4 on 360 I hated everything about the xbox's dpad. How the whole thing would wiggle in its circular housing, etc etc. I couldn't get a hadoken off more than 50% of the time.

Now a year later there's nothing I can't do on a pad that I would need a TE stick for - save Karas and p-links. (I own both) Only thing that gives me trouble for a real long time on a pad is comboing dp motion off crouching normals, but now its barely a problem.

#22
ricefarmer said on May 27, 2010 at 12:31 a.m.

(This user was banned.)

#23
Aftermath1349 said on May 27, 2010 at 12:44 a.m.

Why Sanford chooses to lower himself by playing Sagat is beyond me. His cammy and sakura are amazing yet he still feels he needs to go wong style and go top tier just for the sake of it.

#24
Johnry said on May 27, 2010 at 12:53 a.m.

I love how supposedly pro players can get beaten (or even perfected) by players who come out of nowhere. Shows the best SF players aren't even famous!
Great game, Inthul!

#25
Jej said on May 27, 2010 at 2:27 a.m.

@Clovr4Lyf
is that monkeys I can hear in the background ?

#26
Mofobuster said on May 27, 2010 at 2:31 a.m.

@28
not really...
enter inthul fei long on youtube and youll see hes been playing with the pros for a bit now...
just cus you dont know him doesnt mean he came out of nowhere ^^

#27
Mofobuster said on May 27, 2010 at 2:40 a.m.

lol @ inthul unlocking the perfection trophy ^^

#28
chickenwings said on May 27, 2010 at 2:40 a.m.

@27

Sagat isnt super man anymore. Hes good but he cant do 2 tiger upper cut combos and close out a match.

#29
Otter_of_Death said on May 27, 2010 at 2:50 a.m.

I'm not clear on tournament rules, but if he has to turn off the 3-punch/3-kick triggers, then he's doing a hell of a job.

If he's allowed to keep them on, then he's still amazing, but I don't think we should deify him yet.

#30
Suppi said on May 27, 2010 at 3:38 a.m.

inthul earned that trophy lol

#31
gitaroh said on May 27, 2010 at 4:08 a.m.

Funny how Justin knew almost everything that the players are GOING to pull out. The guy is good, don't hate.

#32
Shadowzz said on May 27, 2010 at 5:46 a.m.

"low strong low strong"

"wasn't that the jaw breaker"

"naw low strong"

.. It was the jaw breaker.. lol

#33
Hrm said on May 27, 2010 at 5:49 a.m.

Love how the crowd goes crazy when Inthul starts landing hits, but silent when Sanford's Sagat is doing well. NOBODY'S SURPRISED WHEN SAGAT DOES WELL.

#34
chewster said on May 27, 2010 at 7:11 a.m.

@ds123

You can plink and you can Kara. I can pull off karakarakusa with Makoto consistently on a pad, and also Mak's en Ken's Karathrows. Furthermore, You can also Plink. Just position your thumb between the buttons and tilt your thumb so when you press you naturally roll over the other button a fraction later. If you are using a ps3 pad and need to plink a Heavy Punch or kick. Just coordinate your trigger movement with your thumb movement. I plinked Sakura's Tatsu links all the time before moving on to the Fightpad. If you couldn't it would really be inferior to the Stick (which I don't believe).
so..

@#24
I don't believe that's true. I could also pull off Iv.y's command throw in SC with a pad just as well as on a Stick (perhaps even better). It just depends on what you are used to

In short: Pad players unite!

#35
SpARelentless said on May 27, 2010 at 7:32 a.m.

"I'm not clear on tournament rules, but if he has to turn off the 3-punch/3-kick triggers, then he's doing a hell of a job."

Afaik they're allowed since it's in the game and not some kind of 3rd party hard/software thing.

#36
fart said on May 27, 2010 at 9:08 a.m.

ULTRA 2 FTW

#37
JamRock said on May 27, 2010 at 11:57 a.m.

@clovr4lyf

when was this?? cause i havent seen justin at ctf ever since he moved and i go to ctf almost every day i'm not saying ur lying but i highly doubt he was there i only seen sanford there playing ssf4 and chris hu playing ssf4 cause i played chris hu the other day so idk when u saw justin and pr rog and all of them

#38
bananainsaneface said on May 27, 2010 at 12:43 p.m.

When did Seb from FADC get a Machinima contract?

#39
Eventscrubs said on May 27, 2010 at 3:57 p.m.

To Caruga (#18)

I think it's something like this:

@ 6:49 -- Inthul reads Sanfords fireball and punishes with EX Chicken into full combo.

@ 6:56 -- Since no CH message comes up, Sanford must have walked forward into Inthul's c.fierce, or maybe Inthul's poke caught the startup frames of Sanford's jump.

@ 6:58 -- Sanford whiffs sweep (he probably thought he had a read on a dash-forward or a rekka) and Inthul punishes with Chicken Wing combo.

@ 7:04 -- At this point it looks like Sanford is straight mindf_cked. After blocking Inthul's FA, he backdashes.... in the corner! Not a good idea. He gets reset out of the backdash by Inthul's c.strong, and then throws a rekka that lands for no good reason... again no CH message, so I guess Sanford was trying to jump away.

@ 7:07 -- Inthul hits the dizzy combo, and then baits the obvious/desperate reversal TU (not that anyone can blame Sanford for trying!) and punishes s.fierce into rekkas.

Game over.

#40
NumeroGaijin said on May 27, 2010 at 4:31 p.m.

It is funny how most of you are going crazy over him playing with a pad. I have been playing pad since sf2 hit the snes and I still play it today. It is not that difficult. And on top of that Fei is and always has been my fav and #1 main as well. The guy was just doing the basic Fei stuff. It is all about making good decision and keeping your opponent close to you and timing. He implemented all those and congrats to him. You don't have to practice 4 times as hard to do those inputs lol. Does everyone truly like down on us pad users????

#41
ds123 said on May 27, 2010 at 5:31 p.m.

#47

I agree with you there. He plays just about the most basic you can play a character. "Basic" not being a bad thing, just meaning no fancy strategy. I would say my execution is no worse than Inthul's, and he doesn't need a stick for the simple moves he does. His most complex combo was probably just a couple normals to Rekka, or maybe the occasional FADC flaming kick to chicken wing. Anyone can do those.

But to know when like Inthul? A lifetime to master. When to Rekka, when to get in with Chicken wing, when to command throw, when to overhead medium, etc etc.

#42
OhYouDontSayThat said on May 27, 2010 at 5:34 p.m.

I actually play better on PS3 pads too. I think pads are great with the exception of the new R2 and L2 triggers, and Xbox pads are for the stupids...

But now I play on stick because I'm a conformist.

#43
ds123 said on May 27, 2010 at 5:35 p.m.

Someone please tell me why you need a stick over a pad short of Kara and plink?

Like I said earlier, my main issue with pad was I could never consistently combo a dp motion off crouching normals, so I got a stick for that very reason. But I've played pad so long, I think I'm equally 50-50 pad or stick.

#44
Random_GUY said on May 27, 2010 at 5:55 p.m.

@47

Yes I believe they do look down on us.

Great vid, Inthul showed us that:
1. You can go tourney's with a pad an kick ass
2. Unpopular characters like fei can kick ass if you stick to with them, and don't give in and play with those high tier characters.

and
3. Justin is a good player but fking annoying some times.

I myself TRIED to switch to stick, i've been practicing with it for 6 months now.
Only reason was because I had trouble doing, ULTRA's (L1 and L2), FADC to Ultra, and p-linking.
I have to say the stick did the trick, but i feel slower, when I play with a pad sometimes my moves comes out faster...more responsive.
Sometimes i play with the stick online and i can FEEL the input lag i dunno, but when I switched back to pad its feels way better.

Anyway stick to what makes you feel/play better...
Like some people say, a stick doesn't magically make you better in SF, it does however make things (advance techniques) a littler easier.

Sorry guys PAD FTW this time!

Pad player since SF2 TURBO on the SNES.

#45
anddudewaslike said on May 27, 2010 at 6:16 p.m.

The ps3 pad would be absolutely perfect if:

instead of the left analong stick, there was a mini-square gate stick, instead. I like the d-pad for dashing, and most of my character movement...But it'd be nice to just move my thumb down a little bit, for some added precision on more difficult inputs, when needed. You can technically do that with the current ps3 left analog stick, but it's kind of garbage for fighting games...

#46
NumeroGaijin said on May 27, 2010 at 7:43 p.m.

@49 And thats what separates great players a good players.

In General, for me pad has always felt better. Even those so called "HARD" inputs are easy for me on a pad. Sometimes I wonder who started all this pad players suck and pads suck or this belief that you cant do everything that stick users do. Funny thing is no matter how many of us pad users show that stick doesn't always equal better we will never get any credit for it no that that matters any.

#47
EtherNinja said on May 27, 2010 at 9:46 p.m.

This game is made for pad players with all the easy shortcut inputs and long reversal windows.

#48
MANDINGO said on May 28, 2010 at 4:38 a.m.

clovr4lyf iz the new eventhubs clown.

#49
supershinbison said on May 28, 2010 at 5:11 a.m.

@55
lol wow dude the shortcut and input bs applies to stic too. i use pad and have for years and also can play on stic just prefer pad. pad doesn't make it easier. tbh its a matter of personal preference on what you use. don't knock on pad players when there are many stic users who mash inputs to get a reversal dp trust me on this i have seen it lmao

#50
Grevier said on May 28, 2010 at 6:13 a.m.

You must defeat Pad Long to stand a chance =P

#51
CMAyhem said on May 28, 2010 at 6:44 a.m.

Man, the difference between pad and the stick is only on execution wise, if your execution sucks on pad, buy a stick if not theres no need for a stick.
but just to state something, japanese players are considered the best players, and i didnt see a jap using pad so far even on championships that are on console.

#52
Jarkyttaa said on May 28, 2010 at 9:33 a.m.

@60: Japan has a more prevalent arcade culture than the US and haven't been as quick to turn towards consoles. It's inevitable that they'll stick with what they know best (sticks), and that more and more pad players will come out of Japan as console culture becomes more common there.

#53
ds123 said on May 28, 2010 at 5:35 p.m.

#60

I was at my mom's place over break and had SF4 going. A relative of her friend's was over - late 20's early 30's Asian dude and he saw me playing SF4. I could tell from what he was trying to do that he used to be pretty dang good. But he couldn't event get a hadoken out on the XBox 360 pads, declaring that back in his day all SF2 was played in the arcades.

So yea, you gotta remember that the current consoles out today are the first ones with real online play. The best SF pros today are the ones that were around the longest, back to the days where it basically was stick only, and you probably only used a pad when you were playing against your friends at your houses.

#54
CONSTvariable23 said on May 29, 2010 at 12:15 p.m.

So a lot of people are saying don't diss the pads, which is okay, but what I say is don't diss Fei Long by lumping him in with the other weak characters. He's got speed, mobility, safe moves to apply pressure with, deceptive reach, great combo potential, and unlike practically all other characters considered low tier, he can actually punish close jump-ins. The only thing holding him back is crappy Ultras, which *is* a serious problem, but far more possible to work around than the disadvantages others have.

Don't trust the tier lists to tell you who's worth playing. They're extreme simplifications of a very complex balance, not to mention subject to statistical bias, and not appropriate for much more than entertainment purposes. Serious players don't pick by tiers, they pick by who can get them the most wins, and they figure out who that is by playing the game. The answer lies in the heart of battle, not what you heard from some dude on the internet.

#55


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