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Zangief's Ultra 2 setups in Super Street Fighter 4 by Alioune

Posted — March 31, 2010 at 3:09 p.m. PDT

While this isn't the best camera work you'll ever see, Alioune has recorded a clip showcasing the variety of ways Zangief can set up his new Ultra 2 in Super Street Fighter IV.

Comments

R said on March 31, 2010 at 3:11 p.m.

That is why he got nerfed! scary!

Jarkyttaa said on March 31, 2010 at 3:14 p.m.

Since it's not shown, I doubt it work against ultras (Like Ryu's II or Sagat's I), the same way now Cammy's doesn't counter ultras.

MIRACLEfool said on March 31, 2010 at 3:17 p.m.

note to self. Siberian Blizzard denies almost everything

SF4fanboy said on March 31, 2010 at 3:18 p.m.

Zangief's ultra 2 is a little bit rigged there lol

Sakura said on March 31, 2010 at 3:19 p.m.

there goes punishing jumps with SRK > - <

Psycho said on March 31, 2010 at 3:21 p.m.

awesome!!11!!!

chickenwings said on March 31, 2010 at 3:23 p.m.

so his ultra eats anti airs, interesting. This is gonna let him jump in alot more which will give him even more chances at landing dmg. grapplers are lookin strong in super

benjee said on March 31, 2010 at 3:28 p.m.

Giving ultras such properties is really ridiculous and is a tribute to noskill comebacks.

FDream said on March 31, 2010 at 3:29 p.m.

The moment zangief gets ultra no jumping aloud

RedEther said on March 31, 2010 at 3:33 p.m.

Zangief=Turtle shoto killer

#10

NA said on March 31, 2010 at 3:36 p.m.

@benjee
C'mon now, any successful comeback takes skill, even if there are powerful moves involved.

#11

anti_nelaelu said on March 31, 2010 at 3:46 p.m.

wow zangief is replacing sagat on the tier list...

#12

kumo21 said on March 31, 2010 at 3:56 p.m.

This requires a lot of skill to pull because this video demonstrates gief's ultra when he knows the opponent is gonna do something. But in real matches you're gonna have to read your opponent so this ultra seems "crazy/scary" because this video allows it to be perceived like so... so yes, a good ultra for gief and still requires skill and reading your opponent carefully

#13

mcfizzle said on March 31, 2010 at 4:01 p.m.

kumo21 - I don't know if the motion has changed for the 2nd ultra but if the guy is just buffering the 360 motion as he jumps if you don't jump/backdash you are still eating a spinning pile driver soon as he lands. Kinda scary.

#14

Syliander said on March 31, 2010 at 4:02 p.m.

anti_nelaelu

Don't worry. Zangief already is a heavy hitting character. But the main problem is the same. They need to be in your face, to deal damage.

#15

Aeiouv said on March 31, 2010 at 4:03 p.m.

wow what a beast

#16

taicak said on March 31, 2010 at 4:06 p.m.

I don't really think this makes Gief that much crazy better. I feel event hubs and srk should shut down until the 27th. Who knows what or who this guy is doing. He could of done that 1000 times before it hit. Who knows until millions of people pay ssf4 for millions of hours.

#17

SteadiestShark said on March 31, 2010 at 4:15 p.m.

Meh, ground-based AA for me.

#18

cuttyb1987 said on March 31, 2010 at 4:16 p.m.

so whats the correct inputs for the ultra?? and did he grab a standing sagat with ease or did I miss something?

#19

MIRACLEfool said on March 31, 2010 at 4:18 p.m.

@19
720 grab with all kick buttons

#20

Tamaraw said on March 31, 2010 at 4:22 p.m.

Nice, the new Zangief ultra can grab air (ex. SRK) or ground based (ex. Fei Long ultra) characters!?!

If Zangief's got full ultra meter and he jumps closer, only option is to move/dash backwards?

#21

MetalxHealthx said on March 31, 2010 at 4:44 p.m.

ROFL GG Wake up DP, time to learn how to deal with mix ups.

#22

zUkUu said on March 31, 2010 at 4:46 p.m.

if it's a grab and not a "hit" based ultra this gona be to strong by far. dont even have to land, shut donw any reversals and it's most likely a no brainer to pull off and land it.

means even more cheesy chicken style with fireball chars against gief. and the one without are doomed.

#23

chickenwings said on March 31, 2010 at 4:55 p.m.

@benjee

if u want to get technical the whole ultra system is basicly a non skill comeback mechanism. Why should u get a super powerful attack for loseing?

Also this is only the first looks at the ultra in action. Im super grounded anti airs will beat it, or really deep specials. So u just have to be really careful when hiting him out of the air. Honestly this ultra would basicly nuetralize air to air juggles into ultra combos, Meaning bisons number 1 is totally useless veruss gief with ultra 2.

#24

ricefarmer said on March 31, 2010 at 4:58 p.m.

now thats a counter ultra, cammy and fei counter sucks and worthless

#25

CpE_Wahoo said on March 31, 2010 at 5:01 p.m.

So maybe this is why they nerfed other parts of Gief...

#26

VirgoBlu said on March 31, 2010 at 5:02 p.m.

Give him a break...he's obviously doing the vids from "work". HA!!!

#27

MIRACLEfool said on March 31, 2010 at 5:04 p.m.

@ricefarmer
Seriously rght? Counter ultras should just be grab ultras that denies almost every other attack

#28

padplayer said on March 31, 2010 at 5:16 p.m.

**Noticed**combo for green glove still looked like it does a good deal of damge. good to see. and the ultra2 is going to make the other person think twice before jumping up againist the giefer!!!!It looks like ultra 2 eats all other moves once airboned?? I like that it still gives hope for the REDCYCLONE!!! due to the fact that last week all the post about nerfing him was making people think twice about the big guy. hmmmm maybe that's way they had to nerf him to Hello balance the game!!LOL I will still Main the REDCYCLONE!!!! Can't wait to play SuperSFIV!!!!!!

#29

Pusha_T said on March 31, 2010 at 5:33 p.m.

wow that ultra's invincibility is crazy.

Lmao @ #9 spelling allowed as aloud.

#30

WorstGiefEVER said on March 31, 2010 at 5:34 p.m.

FINALLY

Thank you Alioune. MIRROR MATCH!

#31

SymetriX said on March 31, 2010 at 5:44 p.m.

Just to clarify, I was under the impression that the opponent also had to be in the air for this to work. And it does look like all the grabs are done against opponents who either jump or do some move which puts them in a jump state.

So, to people saying "the only way out is to back-dash" I would think that you could also just stand there and not do a wake-up move or any other move that puts you in a jump state, but I could be mistaken.

#32

powderedtoastman said on March 31, 2010 at 5:45 p.m.

ahh yes the shin akuma theme from cvs2 remixed? and the cvs3 joke article.... gief really is the protector of Russia's sky

#33

SoundwaveButcher said on March 31, 2010 at 5:49 p.m.

what abel suppose to do now?

i bet it catches wheel kicks FFFFFFFFUUUUU

#34

OptimusPrimeBot said on March 31, 2010 at 6:03 p.m.

okay so im not suppose to anti air him? THEN WHAT DO I DO!?!?!?

#35

DanoftheJungle said on March 31, 2010 at 6:33 p.m.

You do nothing and risk getting SPD. Or you can backdash. Unless you're in a corner. Then you have to dash forward.

#36

NightmareBooster said on March 31, 2010 at 6:33 p.m.

What do you do? Use a ground-based anti-air instead of spamming SHORYUKEN!!1!

#37

Doppler said on March 31, 2010 at 6:41 p.m.

wtk!!! why gief is too powerfull.... most of giefs players are so pussy... c'mon!!

#38

MIRACLEfool said on March 31, 2010 at 7 p.m.

@38
Why are Zangief players pussies?

#39

TheOneandOnlyone said on March 31, 2010 at 7:01 p.m.

Don't forget gief option select to guy so if you back dash.To much you goin be eating a green hand ever now and thin i think this makes gief pretty nasty.His inside game is mad sick now.

#40

Sakura said on March 31, 2010 at 7:24 p.m.

@ NightmareBooster

what about characters that don't have a reliable ground anti-air?

#41

RandomJohn said on March 31, 2010 at 7:38 p.m.

It looks like it can only grab opponents in the air. So if you a "normal" anti-air, not a "special" anti-air (ie: dp) then you should be safe, right? It makes sense to me. His ultra 1 can only grab opponents on the ground and ultra 2 grabs in the air.

#42

zUkUu said on March 31, 2010 at 8 p.m.

it also grabs opps standing on the ground...

#43

Stingah said on March 31, 2010 at 8:11 p.m.

@43

That is what I thought I was seeing too but it looks like you need to be like a few frames from touching the ground for it to work.

#44

Charlie said on March 31, 2010 at 8:12 p.m.

I feel sorry for Cammy :(

#45

Stingah said on March 31, 2010 at 8:16 p.m.

To add to my previous comment in 44.... that might be the reason why his jump got adjusted as well. Shorter jump makes his U2 more effective....

if his grab really does suck ppl from the ground within a few frames before touching

#46

TheBSharp said on March 31, 2010 at 8:18 p.m.

I just find it amusing the amount that people cried over the nerfs a few days ago and how that has changed into people crying that this new Ultra is OP.

If anything, this should really tell people to relax until the game is out. Day to day crying from one extreme to the other is ridiculous.

#47

xShonuffx said on March 31, 2010 at 8:26 p.m.

Well the best thing I can say is DON'T JUMP!! Even though it has priority in the air it has a reeeaaaaly horrible recovry time when he lands. No matter how low he does it it can't grab you unless your in the air.

#48

trog said on March 31, 2010 at 8:59 p.m.

The UGLIEST ultra in the game is also the more effective. Fantastic.

#49

Zangief said on March 31, 2010 at 9:02 p.m.

I am the RED CYCLONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

#50

kr3wman said on March 31, 2010 at 9:56 p.m.

One of the best looking ultras, and one of the most effective!

KINNIKU DRIVER!

#51

Mazrim said on March 31, 2010 at 10:44 p.m.

It only grabs if you use anything that has a 'jump frame' involved. Just use a standard NORMAL anti-air. Example: Balrog should use D, FP, instead of headbutt. Also from the looks of it, Zangief needs to do an empty jump anyway to make this work.

#52

Mazrim said on March 31, 2010 at 10:46 p.m.

ment to say grounded Normal anti-air.

#53

Ex_Ein said on March 31, 2010 at 10:56 p.m.

Things he grabbed out of the Air
Honda's:
Headbutt(normal and ex) and Butt splash
Fei's:
Ex DP
Sagat's Tiger Knee
Chun:
EX SPINNING BIRD
Shoto:
SRK both normal and EX
Vipers:
SRK thunder knuckle and Aerial burning kick
Boxer:
EX Bufflo
Guile:
Flash KICK

Every jump in opinion is SOL when Zang has ultra

#54

Remster said on March 31, 2010 at 11:01 p.m.

I'm really very confused as to why people are saying you have to back dash. There are many anti air options that don't involve jumping or getting into the air.

#55

guile_makoto said on March 31, 2010 at 11:21 p.m.

Man people need to stop complaining about over powered there's always a problem with you people first its sagat from street fighter 4 and now its zangief from super street fighter 4 witch none of us has played yet your just watching a guy do it just shut up and play the game stop being little babys and stop mashing shoryuken and u won't get caught and I feel bads for kens who love mashing them they gunna get butt raped bu gief but then again u have to learn an adapt

#56

SushiX said on March 31, 2010 at 11:42 p.m.

Zangief is going to be God Tier. Looks ridiculous!

#57

Bronn said on March 31, 2010 at 11:55 p.m.

I do like how a few articles ago the comments were full of complaints about how Zangief was getting nerfed to oblivion. Now he's a beast, apparently. Maybe Capcom actually does know what they're doing.

#58

Throwryuken said on April 1, 2010 at 12:30 a.m.

@59

Couldn't agree more.

I'm a gief main as well. He is still going to be as good as ever.

I laugh at everyone going off on every single update they feed us. omg Dudley is going to be god!!! Omg Cody is going to be god!!!! Omg hakan is going to be god. It's so funny. Just enjoy the ride and learn all you can when the game comes out.

#59

WTF said on April 1, 2010 at 12:33 a.m.

@59

*looks at guile and his sunglasses*

NOPE!

#60

Q80Warlock said on April 1, 2010 at 12:54 a.m.

Is it me or EX Green hand no longer travels half the screen !

#61

canabalistic999 said on April 1, 2010 at 1:39 a.m.

The game isnt out we dont know how good he will be. Stop complaining so far the game has gotten nothing but compliments from testers, magazines etc. SSF4 will be amazing and balanced just like they promised plus i dont see a grappler being OP unless they really wanted to make them god teir there is just to much zoning options and so on to prevent them, so i dont see him being anywhere near as powerful as sagat in SF4, which was actually deserving of the title OP.

#62

Pusha_T said on April 1, 2010 at 1:46 a.m.

@47 and 59- couldn't agree more

#63

DontHateOnMe said on April 1, 2010 at 1:58 a.m.

screw the fact that its anti air and ground..someone please tell me that was NOT a CROSSUP ULTRA at the end..if it is.. then... well.. i dont know what to say

#64

DontHateOnMe said on April 1, 2010 at 2 a.m.

@ DontHateOnMe
i ment to say on e handa.. it looks like a cross up

#65

NightmareBooster said on April 1, 2010 at 7:25 a.m.

@#41/Sakura:

Sakura has a godly anti-air c.HP. But remember that Zangief has to empty jump for this to work, so any ground-based normal will work just fine. Obviously Zangief is going to try to train you to use dragon punches et al. by jumping in with j.HP, etc., before jumping in with Ultra II, but a big part of SF comprises avoiding being baited.

#66

CONSTvariable23 said on April 1, 2010 at 10:35 a.m.

When I heard about the nerfs, I thought I might actually not hate Zangief in this game. But now, this. Oh well, at least this takes more skill for people to pull off than just hitting 3 punches every time I look at them funny.

#67

Novacane said on April 1, 2010 at 1:13 p.m.

This is gunna be alot of trouble for Fei long.....i think.

Fei long is not a grabber but he does need to be in your face to deal damage, and so does zangief.

#68

Square_eyes said on April 1, 2010 at 2:15 p.m.

I would of thought you could counter this with crouching HP with most characters and any other grounded normal anti-airs like Sagat's standing HK. @#34 in Abel's case you could anti-air crouching HP into ultra.

#69

Mambo_Sauce said on April 1, 2010 at 6:04 p.m.

wow he can hit Grounded opponents??? also I wonder if lariat-FADC- jump into

#70

Mambo_Sauce said on April 1, 2010 at 6:06 p.m.

like I was sayin Lariat FADC into ultra 2 looks like its going to work with no problem UGH!! bring it on

#71

calvinfoo said on April 8, 2010 at 11:12 p.m.

The only way I could avoid Zangief's grab is by constantly jumping around to avoid his grab, So now Zangief covers air, then how are we supposed to go around him?

Not to mention his Ultra took as much as 600 damage (at least in SF4), which is ridiculous. All the efford other players trying to hit him, what Zangief needs is just one god-damn atomic Buster and the tide changed or even win the game.

Many ultras deals super high damage (500 or more), Zangief, Blanka, Akuma, Ryu, Dan

Pathetic unsetupable high risk low reward Ultras like Guile, even could miss on wakeup cross up.

#72

NRR said on May 27, 2010 at 11:50 p.m.

You can launch this ultra from the ground by doing a 1080 spin on the arcade stick. Similarly if timed correctly nothing will hit him unless it's right on the top of his head.

That being said it can grab ANYTHING as long as the character's feet aren't on the ground: Ibuki's overhead kick, Chun-Li's crossover kick, Guile's upside down kick/floating long kick/floating knee kick. If the character is even slightly hovering off the ground you can grab them with Siberian Blizzard, timing and pulling off the 1080 are the only issues.

For clarification, lariat to FADC seems to be impossible to connect. I've spent a solid 4-5 hours trying all over the training map to connect it and he'll just ignore the character every time even if he's within grab range. It doesn't make sense to me why this can't connect especially considering you can connect a flash kick FADC into both of Guile's ultras....

#73

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