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Japanese Super Street Fighter 4 team breaks down Hakan

Posted — March 20, 2010 at 2:07 a.m. PDT

The Japanese Super Street Fighter 4 developer blog focusing on how Hakan was created has been translated by Azrael.

In this week's entry the team discusses Turkish oil wrestling and how they made this apply to Hakan, what his various moves do and some general advice on how to use him.

Last week, the intense qualifiers finally came to an end, and now all that's left is the National Tournament on April 4th! Everyone, thank you very much for all of your efforts! The National Tournament is sure to be an intense battle, the final chapter in an ever-unfolding drama. We can't help but to anxiously look forward to it!

I hope everyone is doing well. This is Tsukamoto.

The new character has finally been announced! I've been eagerly awaiting this day. Today, we'll be talking about Hakan's moves and functionality with director Okada and the man-in-charge, Sano.

First, tell us the details about how Hakan came to be.

Sano:
When development of Super Street Fighter 4 first started, we'd decided on 2 new characters. Then, the development team figured having 1 female and 1 male would be the best balance, and fairly quickly we decided that the female would take on the lead role. But it took quite a while to figure out the male's concept. Of course, the guy we're talking about here is Hakan.

Tsukamoto:
Since we moved ahead with our character considerations from Juri, we'd thought "a Korean taekwondo fighter with a dark image... would that be a guy character?!". We worried a lot about their home country as well as their fighting style.

Okada:
We wanted to give Hakan a fresh new fighting style, so we checked out various fighting styles from around the world, and what eventually caught our eye was Yagli gures. It was also a bonus that this fighting style is from Turkey. Street Fighter is all about fighters coming together from all over the world, right? So this time, we wanted to spotlight an area we hadn't featured before. So for that, Turkey is good.

What kind of sport is Yagli gures?

Okada:
It's a type of wrestling that is often referred to as "oil wrestling". It's a fighting style where they are bare at the torso, and they wear special pants made from water buffalo leather. I think many not many people in Japan are familiar with it, but its the national sport of Turkey and major enough to be broadcast on national television. The rules are basically the same as regular wrestling, but its defining characteristic is that they lather up in oil and make themselves more slippery, and then have the match.

Sano:
Using the oil really changes a wrestling match, as their bodies become more slippery and much harder to grab onto. As it takes a lot of power to grab someone in that state, Yagli gures requires more hand and arm strength than normal wrestling. Of course, there are also techniques unique to the sport. So Yagli gures fighters may look smaller than regular wrestlers at a glance, but really their hand and arm strength is something else.

How did the development team feel about Yagli gures?

Okada:
We couldn't get a lot of materials about Yagli gures, so our biggest concern was how to get a fighting style we weren't really familiar with into Street Fighter. However, the designer was fascinated by it (laughs). Yagli gures is a very impacting fighting style, so we felt that if we could pull it off in the game it would be really interesting.

Please tell us about making Hakan's moves.

Okada:
First off, Yagli gures is a fighting style that's about grappling, so we make Hakan a character who is centered around throws. As for the moves themselves, as Yagli gures is also known as oil wrestling, we decided that his moves should utilize the oil in some way. The guys in charge spent a lot of time worrying about how to utilize the oil. Some of the ideas at that time were to have both Hakan and his opponent become oily and slippery, or for attacks such as Yoga Fire to burn him easily...

Sano:
We thought of a lot of things, but most of them put Hakan at a disadvantage (laughs).

Okada:
We finally arrived at having the oil improve the performance of his moves, but it took quite a while to get to that point.

As there are other grappler characters in Super Street Fighter 4, what did you do to make Hakan stand out?

Okada:
For connecting his biggest weapons, his throws - well, this is the same for Zangief and T. Hawk as well, but I feel Hakan is particularly good at it - more than just drawing his opponents in he's good at getting close to them and staying there. Also, he's got to be really good at reading his opponent's movements, so he's a bit different from the other grappler characters here.

Sano:
Yes, unlike Zangief who can just say "if my opponent is on the ground, spinning pile driver!", Hakan's throws have to be matched up with his opponent's movements.

What do you mean by throws where he gets in close and stays there?

Sano:
Let's look at his Oil Dive as an example. To put it simply, he sort of throws himself at his opponent, and if he is able to catch them then he gets the throw. But that's not all to it - if you hold down the button during input, you can delay the timing of the move. Also, it catches airborne opponents as well, so its a good way to limit your opponent's options.

Which of his special moves would you recommend?

Sano:
Out of all his moves, I'm going to go with the Oil Shower! It looks like a meaningless act to pour oil over his head, but really it gives him a powerup that's necessary for victory. I'd say its important enough so that if you don't know how to use it properly you won't be able to beat your opponents.

What kind of powerups does the Oil Shower give?

Okada:
If you think that when Hakan does his Oil Shower his functionality improves, that's the easiest way to understand it. So a basic part of his character is going to be figuring out ways to oil up. So Oil Shower will probably be the most used move.

Sano:
When Hakan does Oil Shower, his damage output increases, his throw range improves, and other ways in which his functionality gets better. The biggest characteristic is that when he is charging his Focus Attack, he can slide forwards or backwards. So for example, you can slide forward while charging to close the gap between your opponent, or slide backwards to make your opponent's attack whiff. So now this becomes useful for both offense and defense.

Tell us about his other special moves.

Sano:
After Oil Shower which increases his abilities, and the Oil Dive we talked about before, there's the Oil Sliding and the Oil Rocket as his main special moves. For Oil Sliding, this is an attack move where he slides along the ground on his stomach - it goes under projectiles, so this is a great way of getting in close. Next is the Oil Rocket, a grab move where he grabs his opponent and with his oilyness and pops them up into the air. The strength of the button used changes the damage output and the distance the opponent flies, so figuring out how to use them will be important. For example, if you use the Hard Punch version it gives for higher damage, but the opponent falls close to Hakan, so he could be in danger of a counter attack. If you use the Light Punch version the damage is less but they go flying farther.

Okay, now please tell us about Hakan's ultras.

Sano:
First the Oil Coaster - think of it as a powered up version of the Oil Rocket. He pops the opponent up into the air, and then slides them into a wall. If you can think of some good setups for it, its a very dependable move.

Okada:
Oil Coaster has a wide range of usefulness. For example, if you corner your opponent, using it here is pretty effective.

And how about his other ultra?

Sano:
Ah, the Oil Combination. Personally, I like this one the best. When you activate it, Hakan lays down on the floor and waits for his opponent to fall into him. For Ryu players who like to do a lot of Shoryukens, or Cammy where much of her moves are air-based, this is very effective. Also, Hakan is invincible until right before he stands up, so I believe Oil Combination is the right choice against jumping opponents. It's not just functional, but watching it will also make you laugh.

Is this a counter ultra?

Sano:
It works similar to a counter ultra in that you want to bait out your opponent's attack, but its not a counter ultra.

Okada:
Oil Combination Hold is an air grab.

Sano:
If you can read when your opponent is going to jump, you can catch them with it. If you just throw it out randomly, Hakan just lays down on the ground and your opponent will think "Man, what's this guy doing?" (laughs)

Okada:
Hakan's ultras have their own unique personality to them, so please definitely try both and choose the one that best suits you.

Tsukamoto:
I like Oil Coaster, but if someone picks Oil Combination Hold then I'm going to be on the lookout for it. (laughs) He also has moves which get his opponent to leave the ground.

Are there any other Super Street Fighter 4 characters who have a similar execution feel?

Okada:
I think maybe no. He's not quite as stoic as Zangief or all-purpose as T. Hawk, so in terms of strength his execution is maybe between Gief and Hawk. He's very tricky, so if you try to do the same things over and over again its not going to work. If you like thinking up various attack plans, then I would recommend him to you.

Hakan doesn't have any projectiles, so does he have a weakness against fireball characters?

Tsukamoto:
Hakan's jump is pretty low, so if I had to pick I'd say its not his specialty.

Sano:
However, opposed to characters who have to jump over fireballs, he has his Oil Sliding which goes under fireballs, and Guard Position, which is similar to Blanka's move where he drops to the ground to avoid attacks. If you can use these moves well then you have several anti-fireball strategies.

So I don't think he has too much trouble with that. Fireballs will be a bit tough, but not very difficult.

So then Hakan doesn't sweat long distances too much. What would you say is Hakan's best distance?

Okada:
His best distance is one where the opponents attacks just miss him, so that would be mid-range I believe. As he also needs space to do his Oil Shower, he starts off at mid range and then moves from there. Of course, he gets his most damage up close.

Sano:
For example, Zangief's best ranges are up close and then right in your face. So like that, Hakan's best ranges are up close and then mid range. In order to improve your attacking power you gotta oil up, and if you're too close you can't, so this range decreases some of that burden. So leaving a bit of space between you and your opponent is the best way to fight I think.

So then, if we are fighting against Hakan, we should try to attack him when he's going for the Oil Shower?

Okada:
But if you get too close to Hakan, he'll throw you. (laughs). Too close and your normals lose, and too far and he gets to use Oil Shower.

Seems like Hakan will be a tough fight.

Okada:
There aren't really any distances that he hates. Up close is where he can hit you with his power, mid-range is his normal range where he can regulate your movements, and from far range he gets to improve his abilities. He's got moves for all the distances. If you can properly use his attacks in the right situation, you'll be able to bring out Hakan's true strength.

Would you say he's suited for beginner, intermediate or advanced players?

Okada:
As we just talked about him needing to know exactly how to read his opponents, I believe he's intermediate to advanced. His moves themselves are simple, so at first everyone can enjoy using him, but when its time to get serious you need to be able to read your opponent's movements and react to them, so in that way I feel he's more for the advanced crowd.

Do you have any remarks to everyone who is looking forward to him?

Okada:
I feel like we finally got a down-and-dirty Street Fighter in the game! I wouldn't go as far to say that he continues the legacy of orthodox Street Fighter characters, but as the concept is one of that you may see at a worldwide surprise show, for those fans who wanted the down-and-dirty character, please give him a try. While his attacks look comical, it really makes for a stoic fight and if you get comfortable with how to use him it makes for a really interesting battle.

Sano:
For those who have liked Street Fighter since back in the day, definitely give him a try. There may be people who blow him off just based on how he looks, but we've given all of his moves proper functionality, so once you use them you can understand the depth.

Tsukamoto:
Well everyone, did you enjoy this week's entry?

For those of you who want to give him a shot! The feeling you'll get with you win with him will be really great! Please use him! I'll recommend him! ... Well, I recommend all the characters, but this week is about Hakan!

Well then, next week we'll be continuing on with Hakan and talking about his appearance and sounds.

See you next week!

Comments

fenris said on March 20, 2010 at 2:18 a.m.

he looks like so much fun to play, that slid is gonna give me nightmares

Kouen74 said on March 20, 2010 at 2:43 a.m.

i say hes more el fuerte & Zangief. he can slide, grab up close, has an "AA grab" and can go through fireballs. this guy is gonna be beast.

NobleEskimo said on March 20, 2010 at 2:44 a.m.

I personally don't really like Hakan's style. He just seems like they took a flimsy concept and went with it instead of reevaluating how solid it actually was. Then again, I'll give him the benefit of a doubt.

LovelessActIV said on March 20, 2010 at 2:48 a.m.

Hakan seems like a great edition to this game. Playing a really good hakan player is really going to give me a big headache haha

DrOoo said on March 20, 2010 at 2:50 a.m.

I sense a lot of raging in my future.

I'm not playing Hakan and I will be giving Adon a spin on top of my usual Vega. I would love to know if all of Adon's specials will be punishable with the Oil Slip and the same for Vega's Wall Dives.

FuryLu10it said on March 20, 2010 at 3:06 a.m.

ithink hakans going to have really sick mind games pressure etc... basically have a solid move list hopefully he has good way of getting into his ultras without having too much off a problem

ShinZero said on March 20, 2010 at 3:09 a.m.

It seems like there will be a lot of hidden depth to this character. He's comical by design but I get the impression that they really want us to take him seriously. If nothing else, he looks like he'll be fun to play once you get a decent grip on things and that works for me.

Nice said on March 20, 2010 at 5:18 a.m.

I can see his sliding focus attack really throwing people off.

Ryu_Apprentice said on March 20, 2010 at 5:34 a.m.

Oh great, this guy's should be charged for sexual harassment (second ultra)

Pusha_T said on March 20, 2010 at 6:13 a.m.

Seems he'll have a hard time against fire attacks.

#10

Saikobooru said on March 20, 2010 at 6:42 a.m.

Seems like a lot of his stuff can easily be crouch blocked and punished.

#11

Cammy said on March 20, 2010 at 8:46 a.m.

Will it be possible to oil up in a real fight? SF4 is so fast, that I have a hard time doing a simple taunt without paying the price for it.

Don't know if the big guy will find safe moments to oil up

#12

Sakura said on March 20, 2010 at 8:55 a.m.

sounds like they were just lazy...

there are plenty of other fighting styles out there that are just as unique/interesting and don't look stupid...

regardless of how good he'll be, Hakan's design is the corniest concept for a SF character, right next to T-hawk...

#13

SephirothinHD said on March 20, 2010 at 9:14 a.m.

@ 14

Don't forget El Fuerte he is just a stupid character and i hate "mucha lucha" type characters.

#14

David_I said on March 20, 2010 at 9:23 a.m.

@14 List, please.....

#15

MuT3SiL3Nc3 said on March 20, 2010 at 9:33 a.m.

Thinking about dropping blanka for Hakan. :) or just making him my 2nd. Looks like my kind of character though :)

#16

CapcomDoingThingsRight said on March 20, 2010 at 9:37 a.m.

HAKAN IS FU*KING GAY

#17

outroot said on March 20, 2010 at 10:12 a.m.

Think of the way that daigo plays with his constant fireball barrage. It's going to be almost impossible for hakan to oil up if a player plays that way. I don't really foresee hakan being all that great.

#18

aytek said on March 20, 2010 at 10:24 a.m.

It's not yagli guRes but yagli guLes it turkich !!!

Thanks

#19

CapcomDoingThingsRight said on March 20, 2010 at 10:25 a.m.

@#19 Glad to see some one is looking at the character design and see how use less he is.

They way Daigo plays and most Ryu/Sagat/Akuma/Seth & Sim player's play Hakan will have less than an 80% chance to get in for his damage. Also EX Fireball/Tiger shot are really fast so that stops you form oiling up, if you try to jump in it will be shor-u or tiger uppercut or LK-MK with Sim and lets not for get Seth jump back HP. Think about that before you all play Hakan.

#20

imSabbath said on March 20, 2010 at 10:54 a.m.

ex oil will go through fireballs

#21

MIRACLEfool said on March 20, 2010 at 11 a.m.

Dang, alot of people are so negative against Hakan

#22

Firegod said on March 20, 2010 at 11:20 a.m.

im not trying to pull a seth and tell everyone to wait for the game, but I do think that we will have to see how the pace of ssf4 will be compared to sf4.

He seems to have a few options against fireballs, so I dont think it will be TOO bad, but we will see.

#23

Teapo said on March 20, 2010 at 11:26 a.m.

Hakan can slide under fireballs and duck under them. Hakan having a short jump both increases the chance he will be hit and makes it so a well timed jump will hit the ground quicker giving more safe jumps. Then if you have EX, EX oil makes fireballs pass through.

This easily makes him better at getting around fireballs than Zangief who has every once in a while shown amazing strength even in tournaments. Let's not forget when Wong's team got rolled by that Zangief in Japan.

I'm not saying Hakan will be the greatest, but I am also not saying anyone who throws fireballs gets wins for free. Saying he has good tools that need to be used well shows intelligence and the belief that I don't know exactly how every match will play out in a game I have never played. Try it sometime.

#24

Dan_CiTi said on March 20, 2010 at 11:33 a.m.

Juri and Hakan are looking fantastic, leaps and bounds better than the 6 characters made for vanilla SFIV(not to say I don't like Abel or Gouken but these guys are just f*cking awesome).

#25

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 11:35 a.m.

@16
though you didn't pose me this question I feel
-Dambe,Kuta: two types of African boxing that involve one hand to be extended in an open palm to block and grab the opponent and the other to remain in a fist the whole fight and you can use kicks as long as it knocks out(or in rare cases kills them).
-Kalaripayat:Indian style that comes in there variations depending on region of India
-Silat:Indonesia Martial arts
-Kajukenbo:A wide mix of martial arts
-Baton Francais: French stick fighting
-Combat 56: In fighting style from Poland
-Svebor:Siberian based martial arts that's kinda like cody's fight style but more focused
-KFM: hybrid martial arts from Spain that was featured in batman's fighting style in batman beings and the dark knight
-Yawara-Jitsu:one of the most versatile styles known to the world
-Defendu:AKA CQB a English based martial art
-Pankration:Extensive system of strikes and grapples
-Krav Maga& Kapap: Israel's contribution to the world of Martial arts
-Lama or Lama Pei:The only martial arts who origins are in Tibet

That's just the real ones fictional ones that Capcom could probably use without much legal problems:
-Omnite: the style the main character in logan's run uses
-Panzer Kunst:Battle Angel Alita

see there's alot of other styles capcom could have used but to get the SF2 feel they got by making Hakan i can only really see Oil wrestling working as weird and wacky as they made it.

#26

BrightSlap said on March 20, 2010 at 11:50 a.m.

@27
We have a stretchy indian wizard who breathes fire and says this is all the result of years of practicing Yoga of all things, and a green retard who learned to fight in the jungle and somehow gained electric powers and you're going to argue that oil wrestling is too weird?

Hakan was a great move, SF4 features many realistic fighting styles and only two crazy unrealistic fighting styles. Stop your whining we were way overdue for a character like him.

And are you seriously suggesting they include a fighting style from a manga? get out.

#27

SoundwaveButcher said on March 20, 2010 at 12:08 p.m.

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUU to another crazy matchup

#28

KenScrub said on March 20, 2010 at 12:16 p.m.

omg tired of hearing about Hakan this and Hakan that. This is always more and more news and videos about him. I want more info on changes to what they did to the cast in SFIV. But no we get this "part of the fun is finding out for yourself". screw you capcom and ps that dojo pack is balls. We want what the jp are getting.

#29

BrightSlap said on March 20, 2010 at 12:31 p.m.

@30

I AM EVERYONE!

#30

jackpot69 said on March 20, 2010 at 12:32 p.m.

can i delete this character from my copy? :)

#31

David_I said on March 20, 2010 at 12:35 p.m.

@30 Example of irony:

SF Fan: I wanna see the list of changes for every old characters that you guys can compile for me NAO!!!

Capcom: Alright. If you insist.......***upload info to the net***

SF Fan: Ah man, I wish I never read them. F@#&k you, Capcom! I won't buy your mother f'kin game comes April >:(

#32

RyuSpirit said on March 20, 2010 at 12:51 p.m.

OMG! i hate so much HAKAN, i ll destroy every hakan online player, i ll throw hadokens lik hell and when he jump on me SHORYUKEN!!! i ll make understand the players that hes a sh1t character, i actually play agressive but whit this sh1T i ll make an exception. They should put another character whit a better fightstyle

#33

tarzanbigcity said on March 20, 2010 at 1:11 p.m.

I get the feeling his worst matchups will be against characters who can Teleport. Imagine trying to get away to do your oil shower then have seth/dhalsim teleport behind you for a damaging combo.

#34

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 1:23 p.m.

@28 Brightslap
when did I say "too weird"? I said "BUT to get the SF2 feel they got by making Hakan I CAN only really see Oil wrestling working as weird and wacky as they made it." meaning it's the RIGHT KIND OF WEIRD read first dumb ass

and as for Alita if your a fan you'd know it was also shown in the animated featured

#35

BrightSlap said on March 20, 2010 at 1:40 p.m.

@36
"see there's alot of other styles capcom could have used but to get the SF2 feel they got by making Hakan i can only really see Oil wrestling working as weird and wacky as they made it."

Maybe you should learn how to better structure your sentences because this heap made little sense. All I got from you was "I don't like oil wrestling, capcom made a mistake here."

I shouldn't have to bring a moron translator to tell me you implied it was the "Right Kind of Weird"

I'll learn to chill if you learn to grammar. <hehe

#36

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 2:33 p.m.

"Maybe you should learn how to better structure your sentences because this heap made little sense."
"I'll learn to chill if you learn to grammar."
You should learn some too, because I can point out something wrong with those statements...

You assumed something wrong, if you want me to repeat what I said using grammar(not that I even care to use it most of the time when talking about something as trivial as choices the video games creators have already solidify in their product). Here:

"As listed above there are styles of martial arts that Capcom could have used to create an interesting character. However I feel Hakan and his style of oil wrestling gives me the nostalgia of looking at the unnatural characters in the original street fighter 2. Where if Hakan was created then, it seems like he would have fit in."

But you are right I don't like Hakan, mainly cause all of his moves beside oiling up, his kick grab and his ultras and super, are simply moves taken from other characters. His oil slide is Blanka's DF feirce made into a special that can be followed by a belly flop attack much like Honda's or Fuerte's splash. Oil Rocket is Zangief's Pile driver, now it throws the other fighter away from you. Guard position is equal to Blanks coward crouch with much of the same properties. I wish they did more with the character, but I am willing to support Capcom and play this character.

#37

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 2:44 p.m.

Also, in my mind yes Capcom a made a mistake cause while Hakan is a grappler with new options I want to see these kinda options applied to strikers without projectiles

#38

JinZo said on March 20, 2010 at 2:50 p.m.

Most of you complaining must not have half a brain and are shoto scrubs who never had any idea how to play SF4 in the first place but got bought into the SSF4 hype. No worries, when the good players face you on SSF4 and you get your a$$ handed to you, you'll probably stop playing and more importantly stop bitching and realize how pathetic your comments were.

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with Hakan. I actually love the fact that he is a hybrid wrestler, and his character design is great, if not, fitting into the SF roster.

Learn to accept or gtfo.

#39

J said on March 20, 2010 at 3:27 p.m.

F*** the haters.

#40

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 3:45 p.m.

"There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with Hakan. I actually love the fact that he is a hybrid wrestler, and his character design is great, if not, fitting into the SF roster.

Learn to accept or gtfo." shows how much of an idiot you are I've pointed out what's wrong with Hakan but also said I've accepted him no matter what....so I can hate and still accept

#41

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 3:48 p.m.

you need to accept that capcom f**ks up or do I have to point out megaman 4-8 and SFEX? or the fact they dropped alot of horror elements out of RE.

#42

BrightSlap said on March 20, 2010 at 4:18 p.m.

@43

Opinions are facts now I take it? Your stupidity is making me nauseous.

#43

ubervillain said on March 20, 2010 at 4:25 p.m.

What I want to know is: Can you FADC out of an Oil shower?

#44

JinZo said on March 20, 2010 at 4:41 p.m.

@EX_Ein

You need to re-read what I posted because nothing I've said makes me an idiot, rather it makes YOU the idiot.

#45

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 5:15 p.m.

@44
The things I pointed out about Hakan are true ask anyone. the fact capcom has dropped the ball when it comes to the games I mentioned in the ways I mention are true especially about EX and megaman 3-8 when it comes to reviews and commercially(how much money it makes) along with among the fans views. the debate on RE 4 and 5 is still out. so what did i state as fact that wasn't?

@46
"There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with Hakan" idiotic statement since that's an opinion that you want to express as fact

"Most of you complaining must not have half a brain and are shoto scrubs who never had any idea how to play SF4 in the first place but got bought into the SSF4 hype." those are idiotic statement seeing as you have no proof you haven't played every single person who falls into the category you put them in.

#46

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 5:28 p.m.

Just to add on to that "accept or gtfo." That right there is the most idiotic statement ever. Simply because everyone has a right to their own opinion and while you have the right to express it much as you did yours right then and there. However, you are also speaking against others who have just as much right to talk about the product as you do on this site or any other site not owned by you or controlled by you. You act like saying that will get everyone you feel doesn't accept your way should leave the site forever. That right there shows how your intelligence level in general is low.

#47

MaPau said on March 20, 2010 at 6:03 p.m.

Hakan boy

#48

MaPau said on March 20, 2010 at 6:09 p.m.

if is one thing a boss should have to me is an upercut if not u suck

#49

JinZo said on March 20, 2010 at 6:22 p.m.

@ Ex_Ein

"Accept or gtfo" means what it means because there is no other option but to accept the fact that Hakan is staying the way he is. Their not going to change his play style this late in the game. That should be clearly obvious to you.

Thanks for quoting all of my statements, because they weren't statements, they were opinions. Note that I said "Most of you complaining must not..", that doesn't make it a fact, that is just what I believe.

Furthermore by quoting as much comments as possible in an attempt to make yourself look smarter, you've not only proved to us that you're an idiot, but a stubborn idiot. You wanna hear the most idiotic statements ever? It comes from your posts.

#50

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 6:57 p.m.

@JinZO
Statemet:"a message that is stated or declared; a communication (oral or written) setting forth particulars >or< facts etc; "according to his statement he was ...""

you didn't present it as your view, you presented as fact or something that can be interrupted(correctly or incorrectly) as fact

No cause you never said that you only said "Accept or gtfo" as in "Hakan's here to stay". You presented it as "Oh your whiny little bitches need to stop complaining cause you're all no talent scrubs or gtfo" cause you never mentioned Hakan once beside to say something there's nothing wrong with him, which is of course untrue.

The funny thing is you keep calling my post or more directly me idiotic but you present no examples. Quoting you is me showing what you said and directly replying to that thing and how I feel on it instead of trying to reply to your post as a whole because not everything you say in it is untrue.

#51

Ex_Ein said on March 20, 2010 at 7:06 p.m.

interpreted* sorry messed up on that one cause I went through spell check too fast

and how dose quoting show stupidity? unless I quoted you word for word without original thought. which when it came to you claiming there to be nothing wrong with Hakan I replied with that is an idiotic statement cause I had just pointed out that half the character is made out of other characters movesets, with very little beside the oil to call his own.

when it came to you claiming most people complaining are shoto scrubs. it was an idiotic statement that didn't show it as opinion and even if it was it was very unfounded one seeing as you probably(that expresses opinion not fact), haven't played the people you speak of online or in person.

I put forth though with facts behind them. you put forth soley insults with no facts or actual ground for even most of you claim t be just an opinion

#52

AirJuggleDotCom said on March 20, 2010 at 7:10 p.m.

greeezy!

#53

561 said on March 20, 2010 at 7:13 p.m.

Yo J we aint Fu**ing the haters we gon 2 oil these niggas up lol

#54

MANDINGO said on March 20, 2010 at 8:24 p.m.

@ EX_Ein
give your asz a rest fool.

#55

Put_Elena_in_SF said on March 20, 2010 at 10:52 p.m.

Thanks for the translation. Looking forward to him.

#56

THE_GODDAMN_MASTER said on March 21, 2010 at 5:08 a.m.

Sano recommends using Oil Combination Hold on Cammy.
That's just...all kinds of wrong...

#57

Dash said on March 21, 2010 at 12:16 p.m.

Where does the Turkish sytle wrestling come into to play at? Hakan does not resemble the oil style wrestling, where the resemblace. He just has baby oil that he pours on himself and that makes him a oil wrestler now? LMAO.... Retarded, he looks deadly though with a lot of options but I guess they had to compensate for the retarded character concept.
He does not do turkish oil wrestling his moves are something else. Its all about money with Capcom they are just doing this for these new gen. of kids. They would have never put this in the game back then but times have changed and the audience they are trying to get has changed. Lets get back to the roots. People who like Hakan see his potential and they wanna give him a shot.
If you been playing SF since the beginning there's no way he fits in the game, I'm sorry but we have to be brutally honest for a min. and stop being so passive on characters capcom make. Look at SF back then and look at it now, nuff said. They are trying to draw in a different audience of people. Not saying its a bad thing(when you have cool looking characters) but old SF guys get disappointed because character concepts are not as good as what they use to be period.

#58

David_I said on March 21, 2010 at 1:06 p.m.

@61 If that's the case, then Capcom wouldn't need a green monster, a hindu Stretch Armstrong, a karate guy who shoots unrealistic projectiles from his hands, a demon who also resembles that same karate guy but with a totally, unrealistic hairstyle..........................***rolls eyes***

Come on, man, don't be so hypocritical.

#59

frankie3nig said on March 21, 2010 at 3:17 p.m.

#62 thankyou

#60

Generic_name01 said on March 22, 2010 at 3:45 p.m.

He'll just slide his way past all your fireballs! Even without the oil, the oil slide looks like a reliable counter to the fireball!

#61

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