Super Street Fighter 4 match videos from ESWC

Posted by Clovr4Lyf on July 4, 2010 at 4:15 p.m. #1

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
Seriously Wong & Marn representing America with their cocky attitudes...and they both are fat and they use Rufus...SMH...seriously SMH...

Posted by ur3shii on July 4, 2010 at 4:24 p.m. #2

@ #1
what's wrong with being fat?

Posted by Vokkan on July 4, 2010 at 4:38 p.m. #3

Alot of those matches could have gone either way for the americans. In the end, I think pressure-handling, adaptability and playing-the-best-character-in-the-game-ability was what sealed it.

Posted by Clovr4Lyf on July 4, 2010 at 4:51 p.m. #4

@2
What's good about it?

IF you are fat then that means that it must affect your mind too! I was making similarities to Rufus NOT making derogatory remarks about fat people!

Posted by Klotzek on July 4, 2010 at 4:55 p.m. #5

Why are they playing the xbox 360 version?

Posted by Dugi on July 4, 2010 at 4:59 p.m. #6

@#5

Why does it matter? Can't enjoy the matches because it isn't played on your precious PS3?

Posted by Sakanade on July 4, 2010 at 5 p.m. #7

I seriously think thats kinda weak usin the best char in the game.. but i dont have any sponsors so what do i kno... (EXTREME SARCASM)

Posted by kornbeaner on July 4, 2010 at 5:02 p.m. #8

Didn't Marn just win devastation using Dudley in the GF's. So them using rufus isn't the only reason why they won, these dudes have some skill when it comes to this game and after hearing both of them speak on multiple occasions let them have this one thing. Cause I'm pretty sure that if these guys got into a fight or did anything athletic they wouldn't be able to hang. Let them have their games that's what they do for a living.

Posted by Mourne on July 4, 2010 at 5:17 p.m. #9

@8: Exactly. They will always come up for some reason as to why Justin & Marn deserve no credit. It's the same with anytime Daigo loses--anytime Justin wins, there's always something going on.

Justin has won with any number of characters at tournament level. Truth is, these European players simply are unlikely to have nearly the under-pressure experience that Justin & Marn have at this point given how many tournaments and Top 8's they have played in. Nonetheless, these are all absolutely high level SF players and all deserve some respect, but thanks to the weeaboo bias and low level of intellect on this site, you're highly unlikely to ever see it.

And while we're on the subject: I'm surprised that all of these weight watchers that are thoroughly obsessed with Justin's physical appearance haven't noticed that he's actually lost quite a bit of weight in the past six months. C'mon, guys; you should be trying harder.

Posted by chickenwings on July 4, 2010 at 5:21 p.m. #10

@3

cause sagat, ryu and balrog are low tier? LOL

Posted by BlazinBlizzard on July 4, 2010 at 5:23 p.m. #11

Comments 1,2,4,5 & 6 made my Fourth of July----Period.

Posted by BlazinBlizzard on July 4, 2010 at 5:26 p.m. #12

btw...I live in Bronx, NY and I'm all about representin' the U.S. (namely New York) but J. Wong is honestly just too much of an ass [imo] to like/root for, similar to my view on Kanye West. {As for Marn....I hate looking at his face. It upsets me tbh} Just stating MY opinion so please respect it as I would you and don't have a bitchfit, rage quit tantrum----kthxbye

Posted by Mourne on July 4, 2010 at 5:44 p.m. #13

BlazinBlizzard: I can tell from the tone of your post that you've never even come close to meeting Justin, and hating Marn because of his appearance is, again, just immature. I'm just glad that this site isn't indicative of the overall community, or else SF would become irrelevant due to the ritualistic suicides caused by Daigo's next big loss.

You guys simply do not know him and yet hate him with such venomous, uncompromising passion. Anything and everything you know about Justin Wong, Marn, Daigo, and every other player is almost entirely from outside sources because you have never met any of them; anything positive in regards to Justin you'll sweep under the carpet, and latch onto any possible reason to hate the guy. It's unbelievable how people act here, it really is. Oh well, I just hope Justin comes out onto the EVO stage to "Stronger" by Kanye West.

Have you ever noticed that, out of the hundreds of thousands of people these guys have played with, that virtually none of them ever go spewing out about each other night after night? It's because they understand the nature and pressure of competition--unfortunately, most of the people her have absolutely no idea, because they are just simply not good enough to ever taste that. Amongst his peers, Justin has garnered great respect despite the fact that everyone wants him to lose, because they all want the underdog to succeed. That's the nature of competition, and yet you will never see Justin let it get to him.

Let's post a sample of an interview with Daigo from back in November:

"The day before our final, Justin and I had had an exhibition match of first-10-victory system, and I swept the match at 10 to 2. He didn’t use a home console character during the match, but he came up to me after the exhibition match and did tell me in person that he would use one against me if we meet though he chose not to then since he thought it was not fair. So I was able to mentally prepare for that. I was also able to physically prepare on site that day afterwards though it was just a bit. After the grand final next day, Justin came to me and apologized for using the console character."

Did Justin have to go up to Daigo and tell him that he would use a console character? Absolutely -not-. He did it because they are competitors with great respect for one another, and it's really just something you lot will never, ever have any idea about. And going up to "apologize" for beating Daigo with the console character after he (Justin) won with him? That hardly seems congruent with the "***hole" image that you lot have labeled Justin with.

(Source: http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/bl...)

So anytime you try to pretend you have some sort of idea as to what these guys are really like, try to keep that in mind. Also: Get out of the house more. At least find some people to hate that you don't have to see via pixels.

Posted by MrPavy on July 4, 2010 at 5:46 p.m. #14

I Live In bronx NY too and one day i went to the arcades(ChinaTownFair) And played Jwong And he used Sagat And when he won he started yelling and acting like a total ahole. I wanted to punch him there But he had some fanboys with him

Posted by L45R on July 4, 2010 at 6:19 p.m. #15

Just want to say this tourney just looks so sad...no crowd cheering...no live stream...no commentary...competitors play at this little LCD monitor.. it's just sad....I almost fell asleep watching this even though it's high level skill players..

Posted by BlazinBlizzard on July 4, 2010 at 6:32 p.m. #16

@Mourne #13 - lol

Posted by Clovr4Lyf on July 4, 2010 at 6:55 p.m. #17

@ Mourne
#1Is what you said about Wong and Daigo on Camera? No!?
#2 Just because he did it doesnt mean he is a nice guy. He could have been forced to say that!
#3 A TRUE champion should be able to face ALL challengers and make NO excuses as to which character they want to fight!
#4 a TRUE champion can beat ALL comers with EVERY character not just ONE like Daigo and Wong. They pick the characeter with the easiest control and the best stats! Yawn!
#5 Marn is known to taunt in his matched usually when the opponent has no chance...NOT cool!!
#6 Wong is on tape being an ass everywhere...too easy.
#7 Wong is on tape coaching his 'boys' during a match (Sanford V Inthul EC)
#8 Hu is an ass too and he is on tape coaching and yelling!
etc. etc. etc.

Posted by Sakura on July 4, 2010 at 6:59 p.m. #18

Marn losing that match after taunting was priceless...

Posted by geodude on July 4, 2010 at 7:08 p.m. #19

with all the criticism these guys get, its almost like they have to act cocky just to shut up the haters. i used to hate jwong, but when you look at all the disrespect he gets, i'm now on his team! go Justin!

go USA! can't wait for EVO!

Posted by Super_Chun on July 4, 2010 at 7:22 p.m. #20

@7 I can't speak for Marn because I'm unsure, but Justin has used Rufus on and off again since the beginning of SF4. It's not his fault that Rufus suddenly became one of the best characters in the game.

Posted by evilhayama on July 4, 2010 at 7:28 p.m. #21

You're all talking like this was a blowout for the US, but these matches were quite close, both Marn and Justin could easily have lost here.

#3 has it right, it looks like tournament experience is what got them through. If Luffy or Zak went to as many tournaments they could clean up their game a bit and be even more competitive.

Posted by IrPanda on July 4, 2010 at 7:41 p.m. #22

lol, wtf is wrong with taunting when ur opponent has no chance lol...
these guys just like to hav fun when they play, dont always gotta be 100% serious.

Posted by jjohan35 on July 4, 2010 at 8:17 p.m. #23

@2

A myriad of health problems.

@19

There's no justification for being an ass. Nobody doubts his skill and talent. But he's getting hate for being an ass, not the other way around. I don't know him personally but I do feel that he needs to change his public image/persona/appeal for business reasons. It makes a difference when businesses choose who to sponsor and whether or not they want his face on their brand. The way he acts is acceptable for a 13 year old. But for a professional in his mid 20s?

Am I the only one who is disappointed at the tiny screen sizes at this tournament? You'd think that a tournament with this huge pot would have enough $$ to afford at least a 40" for the two players to share. The players were sharing a 22" for crying out loud.

Posted by ur3shii on July 4, 2010 at 8:30 p.m. #24

@ #23
They can’t even afford a computer to stream it live so how on earth would they be able to afford a 40’’. ESW is TRASH; I do hope that they pay the winners in full though.

Posted by Mourne on July 4, 2010 at 8:45 p.m. #25

@ Clovr4Lyf: What does it matter if it's on camera? Daigo himself said it, and he said very nice things. There's no real way to twist it. If you are doubting the credibility of Seth Killian, then that's a different story and is even more reason not to pay much mind to your opinion.

Justin was obviously not forced to say anything, and by saying what you've said, you have proven that you are biased beyond belief. Again, it's people like you that give the comments on this site such a deplorable reputation.

As for the rest of what you said: What are you rambling about? Daigo not wanting to face console characters? I agree it's no excuse and hate when people say it, and that is -precisely why- it was quite an admirable thing for Justin to tell Daigo beforehand and to even apologize later.

I don't care who is "on tape" (this is starting to sound like TMZ) doing what; you're "on text" here talking like a madman, so unless you want to concede you're out of your mind, it doesn't mean much. Have you ever been to a tournament? Do you have any idea how fired up people get in them? That kinetic energy from the entire crowd is what makes tournaments as great and unique as they are. These guys are all competitors and they understand the nature of that; in a tense moment, people are known to jump up and celebrate (yes, this extends to Japanese players as well--it's called being human).

For the record: I would imagine Justin is better with more characters than Daigo is, but it's pure speculation based mostly on the fact Justin has played with a ton of characters while Daigo sticks purely to projectile characters as far as tournament play is concerned.

Also, why do you keep saying a "TRUE champion"? Is this a Wheaties box?

All your 'examples' prove is my point, and they are all not in your favor in the least. You're just another person who hates on these guys for being better than you by a landslide, and never being able to compete at their level must be haunting you pretty bad.

What do you have against what you call "coaching"? Sanford lost to Inthul in that match because Inthul outplayed him; it didn't matter what Justin said, unless Justin took up the stick himself and won it for him. There's no rule against "coaching," and -especially- the instances you're referring to when other players are merely telling them who they think they should pick. Hell, at every tournament I've been to, there's usually over half the crowd yelling out counter-picks after someone loses. You're going to need to get over it, kiddo, or just get out.

Posted by PeterTheBohemian on July 4, 2010 at 8:48 p.m. #26

@#14: I highly, highly doubt that JWong acted like an ass after beating some no name.

Bottom line: Europeans aren't as good as the Americans. How can they get as good? Most obvious answer would be to spend a month or two training with the Americans and / or Japanese to step their game up.

I know this won't change anyone's opinion, but hating on Marn and JWong for their weight, appearance, and/or character choice is just as bad as people dick riding Daigo and rationalizing his every loss.

Posted by Axefresh on July 4, 2010 at 9:04 p.m. #27

Hate on Marn all you want. Justin wasn't the one who taunted.

Posted by Axefresh on July 4, 2010 at 9:08 p.m. #28

Also, how much you guys want to bet that Mourne has never met Justin Wong in real life either? I might not agree with those bronx guys but they are more believable, since they live where J.wong used to live.

Posted by Clovr4Lyf on July 4, 2010 at 9:22 p.m. #29

@25
U watch TMZ!?
So much for YOUR credibility!

Posted by Axefresh on July 4, 2010 at 9:29 p.m. #30

Finally, reading over your last post Mourne, it's hilarious how you reply to Clovr4Lyf about true champions. "But Justin is better with more characters". LOL of course. He doesn't live in Japan or France where they enforce character lock. If you live in America or the UK, you counterpick. You leave Daigo in the dust to be called a fraudulent champion for a guy's argument you don't even agree with. You are obviously a wong d!ckrider, who claims to have daigo as his favorite player so no one calls you out on your bullcrap.

Posted by CMAyhem on July 4, 2010 at 9:31 p.m. #31

Man i will laugh my fuc*in ass off, if somebody beat marn convincingly taunting this motherfuc*er in every round!

but i really doubt it will happen , lol.

also i still dont know why ppl defend random fat guy that they don't even know, seriously.

Posted by Teapo on July 4, 2010 at 9:37 p.m. #32

Dude take it from another memeber of this site who often posts walls of text with sources Mourne sounds like a cool dude. I have seen Justin in person he blends in pretty well with the rest of the tournament crowd another occasionally rowdy guy when the hype hits, a reserved spectator when things are going slow, and a good sport when the game is on.

It really isn't like some of these players go around with long capes, top hats, and curly moustaches putting women on train tracks. They are like normal people.

Posted by illuminati1914 on July 4, 2010 at 9:55 p.m. #33

We expect to much from the "pro" players. Gaming is still fairly young in terms of organized competition, and high level players are getting an exposure that is unprecedented.

Gaming, tries to emulate the connotations of real sports, which why people expect to see a level of humility and respect from top level players. Its what we've come to expect of any professional athlete. These norms are more organizational then personal though, and until gaming has that kind of structure, we shouldn't expect a certain decorum from players. Right now, they are only being themselves, and thats something thats kind of cool, at least for the moment.

Posted by Gorav on July 4, 2010 at 9:56 p.m. #34

I like marn because of the way he looks but I think he good with a lot of charaters I think he's the best with Viper though.

Posted by Gorav on July 4, 2010 at 10:02 p.m. #35

@13 You get an A+ for that you cited it and everything.

Posted by CowboyBebopCrew on July 4, 2010 at 10:07 p.m. #36

Nice video... cant wait for the EVO stream. There's going to be a lot of heavy hitters there. :-)

-JB

Posted by jhayze on July 4, 2010 at 10:29 p.m. #37

i got a lot of friends from both Cali and NY , mostly all of them who enter/play tournaments and played with JWong (or even met/saw him) before has different story...

some of them says he's a nice guy (humble and friendly after a match! even though they loss from him! or he dominates a game from a different player!)

and some of them say he's a douchebag (even though there's hype on the environment there's really no need to be hype that much to act like a total arsehole when u win a game or even dominate a game, examples are... trashtalk, taunting personally , making ruckus with his posse, and his evil smirk! lol)

i only know/see JWong from stories, videos, and SF community! i got a lil' bit opinion about him seeing on the videos being rude and arrogant ...BUT... i haven't met the guy personally yet so... i cant really judge and hate him! i can only make a remark about him that he's a top level player and living under the shadow of Daigo (i dont have to go on details on that Daigo part!)

like him or hate him! everyone's has their good and bad side! move on...

Posted by Mourne on July 4, 2010 at 11:11 p.m. #38

See, @37 is an extremely reasonable poster. If this was the consistent tone of this site, its members would have some actual credibility. He's not speaking definitively about someone he hasn't met and qualifies it as such.

As for Axefresh, you're adorable. I admit it. This isn't even part of the discussion, but do you realize that Justin rarely has to counterpick? Myself, I only saw it once (he switched to Cammy and then went back to Rufus and won.) The point was that Justin plays with characters straight up, where he doesn't have to stick with one--not while counterpicking, but just going into entire rounds. He'll play Rufus, he'll play Fei Long, I've seen him play Akuma, and last year, he consistently used Abel (and also Balrog) as well.

Daigo is a tremendous player and undoubtedly the point-for-point legacy champion, but see, you've been conditioned to think that all fans of Daigo have to be ready to worship the ground he walks on (including the water he treads on, according to legend). Daigo is the de facto standard to me for a player that sticks to his gameplan no matter what that takes; sometimes he will have that exploited against him, but 99% of the time, he will win. The guy has reading that is better than practically everyone, hands down, and is just genuinely one of the--if not the--smartest players playing the game. Daigo's skill can be spoken for simply from the fact that no one else can imitate him, as he nearly always ready for absolutely everything. If people were hating on Daigo the same way they do other players like Justin, Marn, and Sanford, I would have to call them out as well. Fortunately for Daigo, that isn't the case right now thanks to the weeaboo factor.

I'm not surprised by your comment, though. You are a visitor to this site, where nearly everyone feels obligated to sign away all rights to personal opinions. Those of us that don't follow the mob mentality tend to form our own opinions instead of going with the people who speak the loudest and most often; you should try it sometime, individuality is a beautiful thing.

Your problem is that you aren't able to treat SF players as just regular people, but instead see them as either good or evil despite having only secondary evidence and hearsay to go on. Those of us who actually care for the matches and pay attention to the players with an open mind (and not those that are the product of social engineering) just want to see the best matches by the best players. That is why I don't feel it necessary to insult these people who are just playing SF, especially because of their physical appearance foremost--unlike you, I'm interested in Street Fighter, not Top Model or the Real World (which some of you apparently want this to turn into).

The unwarranted hatred is absurd and is more telling of you than those that you choose to (rather poorly, if you don't mind my saying) condemn so very often.

Posted by Agent718 on July 4, 2010 at 11:20 p.m. #39

I'm more into the fact that someone is representing NYC out there. I don't care how fat, nasty, or dick-headed they are..... or how people describe or think of them. Just get those wins & show the world how NYC does it. I would suggest to keep it humble though, but I'm old school. That Wong kid could of at least put a Yankees cap on, because the world DOES recognize that champion symbol.

BUCKTOWN, USA....

Posted by xexytime on July 5, 2010 at 12:01 a.m. #40

Europe got RAPED again. both 1 and 2 were US players hahaha.

Posted by valken on July 5, 2010 at 12:04 a.m. #41

Daigo and Tokido had lost against Luffy,in the last tournament, so I think, Marn and Justin have the same level that the Japanese player, may be more...

Posted by Tru1yOdd on July 5, 2010 at 12:34 a.m. #42

Europe getting beat again kinda sucks. It looks like a couple of them stepped there game up, but the geography of Europe is kinda against the players.

European players are just to spreed out to be as good as the Americans. Japanese are better then everyone because the are so close together.

The Europeans need a player like Justin who get to travel around the world playing the best. Thats probably the only way there gonna become competitive with the rest of the world.

IMO Koreans are probably gonna get tons better if SSF4 picks up in popularity over there, maybe even better then the Americans or Japanese. But that dam Starcraft.

Posted by Mourne on July 5, 2010 at 12:57 a.m. #43

@42: I think we saw some really great play in the videos above from the Euro players, but indeed, the closer knit community, the better--they get more exposure to more skilled players and get to grow as a result. I think most people (that can think for themselves, anyway) that saw the videos won't sleep on the Europeans forever. Hopefully the SF scene will continue to grow there and we'll get to see more people like Luffy and Ryan Hart making some noise at the international level.

Posted by hussasin on July 5, 2010 at 1:52 a.m. #44

I cant believe the retardness of the discussions going on here. And your probably grown men "sigh"

Posted by WorstGiefEVER on July 5, 2010 at 3:42 a.m. #45

Does ANYONE in this community know the difference between your and you're??

Posted by jwong_fan_club on July 5, 2010 at 4:33 a.m. #46

THose matches were so boring.

Posted by Artiskan on July 5, 2010 at 5:25 a.m. #47

from the matches i've seen these were pretty intense..even though j wong and marn are known to be a-holes, who cares? it's a game and the people that play it aren't robots.....

Posted by BUTTLORD on July 5, 2010 at 7:27 a.m. #48

I've met a few people from the SF community and played against a few as well on a couple of off chances. I've met Justin Wong and played with him. He was never anything but nice. The cockiness (I'm not sure where people are getting this) is all an act. The standing up and yelling after he wins thing, well, it's no different than doing a victory dance in an in-zone or pointing at the dude you just dunked over. It's part of competitive games. Why doesn't Daigo do it then you might ask? Daigo chooses not to. That's how he maintains his mindset, Justin gets up and screams and slam dances like an idiot, but that's how he gets himself hyped up. It doesn't mean that he's going to be a dick to you when you talk to him.

Sure, these guys are fat. They are the perfect representatives for this country. A huge percentage of us are morbidly obese. You walk into a wal-mart and your grandma can't get a hoveround because they are all being used by 500 pound dudes that are cramming nilla wafers by the box into their ever-churning maws. It would be unrealistic to have a fit champion as odds are a gamer who has played enough to be better than Alex Valle, Combofiend, Sanford Kelly....well, he's going to be fat if he's from America. The Japanese have much better eating habits and much healthier food selection everywhere than we do. So their best gamers aren't huge (with the exception of Kindevu).

Posted by RetromanTiga on July 5, 2010 at 7:40 a.m. #49

Wow....this sh#t is hilarious. You people must really think these guys are gods...they are only on top because the masses placed them up there...same thing goes for placing a black man in a WHITE house. U people need to grow up...its just a f@ckin game...Attitude is important...players outside of America tend to have a better attitude when it comes to SF...win or lose...they just shake hands with their opponent and go on about their day. American players could take a few lessons about humility from these guys...or girls...in the end....its STILL just a game. Grow up, people. Retroman, out.

Posted by Slaystation on July 5, 2010 at 7:49 a.m. #50

I can't believe I'm going to respond to some of the insane things posted in this thread, but...

1. Why the hell does it matter if Justin and/or Marn are overweight? This isn't tennis. Plenty of professional bowlers and golfers are overweight. Are they less deserving? Is their weight hindering their performance? Doesn't look like it.

2. Rufus is the best char? Not according to Mago and Nemo's "Global tier list", which appears on this very site. Their top tier is: Guile, Abel, Chun-Li, Dictator, E. Honda, Boxer, Rose, Blanka.

So, according to their list, Luffy and Zak are the tier-whores.

3. This is the "World Cup!?" They've really got to step it up a little.

4. Given the unfriendly-nature of things (no hand shake afterwards?), the taunt seemed a little cocky to me. Had it been a more relaxed atmosphere, I'm all for it. And, by the way, Marn didn't lose the match after the taunt. He lost the set (if we're using tennis terminology).

Posted by RetromanTiga on July 5, 2010 at 7:53 a.m. #51

....but then again....mofos are heartless these days. They could shake your hand, shoot you a smile and give u a pat on the back.....then talk s#hit about how "you werent that good" or how much of a "scrub" u are. Well...there goes the other side of that coin.

Posted by IrPanda on July 5, 2010 at 8:51 a.m. #52

Why are their taunts in the game if you cant use them with out being criticized -_-.

Posted by Axefresh on July 5, 2010 at 12:05 p.m. #53

Mourne, you have a lot of nerve to call me out on my individuality. First post I have in this section is defending J.Wong anyway. I didn't call him bad or good, most of my posts here focused on your shenanigans, where you hide your bias in a wall of text.

Besides, what do you honestly know about my posting habits anyway? I posted three times, with direct points. You have this large argument against me, like we have some sort of history where we fight against each other. Sounds like its more of you venting your unheard frustrations against eventhub trolls who probably aren't worth paying attention to in the first place.

Also, I got a real kick when you mention "people who speak the loudest and most often". Oh the irony. As far as I'm concerned, calling me "adorable", dictating whether other user "worthy" or not and the conceited tone of your entire post..you are really no different from the eventhub crazies that you condemn.

Posted by canabalistic999 on July 5, 2010 at 12:37 p.m. #54

Why the hell do you people argue bout a justins/marn/daigo/ any SSF4 tourny player attitude looks etc. its pointless. So what if they are fat or skinny, an douche or a nice guy or anything else, all i know is im happy i dont play video games for a "living". im sarcastic bout the living cause these guys make barely anything for money and for f*ucks sake it playing games, thats either what kids/pathetic people do the whole time in their parents basement or just play them as a pass time. I dont envy or really respect these guys much at all for that reason alone.

also @Mourne wtf is with you man do constantly keep an eye out for people responding to ur posts? just so that you can make a "smart statement" back at them or show ur class by saying dont judge or ur douchebag side by saying ur wrong ur dumb etc. get a damn life.

on the other hand SSF4 is fun to play when i have time :)

Posted by Mourne on July 5, 2010 at 12:59 p.m. #55

And I refuted those points. Next.

Kidding (well, not really), but I can tell you're a little hurt. I apologize if you're being kept up at night ;__;

Joking aside: It's really nothing personal--just don't accuse me of bias like you know me, considering you simply do not. The bias of the others here is thoroughly obvious given how they conduct themselves with no regard for others, and yet again I stress it's people who have never had any sort of involvement with them whatsoever.

As stated, I like all good players and want to see the best players play the best matches, instead of watching people insult those they do not know for absolutely no reason. The fact of the matter is that the jealous members of the community has cultivated such personal, vehement hate for Justin that we get comments like this on YouTube (though it could have just as easily come from here):

[In reference to Justin's girlfriend] "its a paid whore that the empire set up for him to have hang around with him to try and improve the image of SF nerds with no real jobs. Loo at triforce, a ****ing retard who walks around in public with a ****ing powerglove on his hand, this is the sort of nerdy retards we are dealing with here, no woman would **** these losers. Its not his GF, not by a long stretch, its not hard to pay for a whore/escort to follow you around wherever you go. You're another fool"

One question: What does this have to do with Street Fighter? Absolutely nothing, exactly. It's just disheartening and somewhat disgusting that -this- is what these people post about more often than they do SF, because they are driven by pure jealousy for someone who has absolutely no tie to them other than Street Fighter--which is solely what they should concern themselves with as far as this person is concerned.

Posted by Mourne on July 5, 2010 at 1:04 p.m. #56

(continued; quoting that one post put it over the limit)

And yet, these comments are even more common than discussing his Street Fighter abilities. They really just cannot take it that Justin has something over them, even though he has never said anything to them or harmed them in any way. When you promote the growth of that sort of mob antipathy, it's no wonder some people feel the need to say something. You can say I cherry picked that comment, but in fact, it was just the first video I came across. I guarantee if you look up any one of these videos, you'll see some disparaging remark regarding his physical appearance or something revolving around his personal life far more often than you'll see anything related to Street Fighter.

You are right about one thing--they aren't worth my or anyone else's time, but the sad thing is they aren't trolls. That would require some sort of cleverness, and sadly that is entirely absent from this site outside of a few users. I should clarify that you really aren't the problem compared to most of the users, but hopefully you'll understand my stance better.

I am waiting for some sort of proof that I'm biased, by the way. You keep saying it but just can't seem to substantiate it. As I said in the last post, I am merely calling out people for being audaciously hateful toward people for absolutely no reason; if they did the same to other players like they do to Justin and Marn, I would call them out as well. Thanks for ignoring that part, since blatantly ignoring entire lines really will help bolster your false argument.

And @canabalistic999: I actually have the site on Speed Dial (look it up if you're unfamiliar, it's a lifesaver), so when I start my browser, I see the amount of comments and occasionally bother checking in. We do agree on the fact that their personal appearance or personal lives have absolutely nothing to do with their ability at SF, which is exactly the point. I'm sorry if you're offended by my posts; if that's the case, don't read them (I do mean that--peace, not war! <3). As for making "smart statements," it's not about that. It's just about bringing to these peoples' attention that their hatred for this guy is completely unjustified and meritless. I have no problem investing a few minutes a day in that. None.

Posted by MrPavy on July 5, 2010 at 3:20 p.m. #57

we argue about Street Fighter Because it isnt just a Game....Its a Sport

Posted by chickenwings on July 5, 2010 at 3:31 p.m. #58

@57

Its only a sport if ur too lazy to go out and actually run. Its a hobby.

Posted by BlazinBlizzard on July 5, 2010 at 5:18 p.m. #59

@#57...well said +10 =]

Posted by IrPanda on July 5, 2010 at 6:10 p.m. #60

@58
If chess is a sport why can't Street fighter

Posted by MrPavy on July 5, 2010 at 6:25 p.m. #61

because most people think its just a simple fighter

Posted by Regel on July 5, 2010 at 9:21 p.m. #62

GS @ Mourne for trying to reason with these eventhub retards. I'd be really pained if these guys were an accurate sample of the fighting game community.

Posted by Abel_Master on July 5, 2010 at 11:28 p.m. #63

why do people argue and write whole essays on why Jwong is or is not an ahole.... he is good and wether or not he is or is not you bitching about it is not gonna change what people say or think. rather than talking about how he is why not talk about how he plays. I personally think Rufus is cheap piece of ament but thats just me. All things said am glad he is rep-ing USA but why does he have to be fat and rep-ing USA.... His sponsors should make him lose some f-ing weight or the nation should chip in for a gym membership and a trainer dietitian combo!!!! All things said gj go USA(to bad about fifa though : (

Posted by lolwut on July 6, 2010 at 12:12 a.m. #64

If you don't know already, Clovr4Lyf is the village idiot.

Posted by Nyoronoru on July 6, 2010 at 7:36 a.m. #65

Mourne's comments would be pretty godlike if she did not also take jabs at people.

A-tier it is.

Posted by voa on July 6, 2010 at 7:40 a.m. #66

@58

Your definition of sport is questionable. For example, golf is a sport. It's hardly strenuous. But the technique needed to be good takes just as much practice as trying to get good at sf. I've been playing sf for about 2-3 years and I'm still no where near as good for tournament play. You don't need to sweat to make an activity a sport. technique and brains can easily make anything into a competitive activity.

Posted by Sakulagi on July 6, 2010 at 10:52 a.m. #67

I think gaming (Starcraft) is considered a sport in Korea. The top players make over 100 000 dollars a year and are celebrities.

Posted by whitey_deluca on July 6, 2010 at 11:53 a.m. #68

Good sh#@t Justin & Marn! real nice guys, good job.

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Whats so hard about that EHubs?

Posted by JJParker on July 7, 2010 at 3:16 a.m. #69

WOW! some of you guys seriously need to get a life.

Posted by robbiefrmdabxch on July 10, 2010 at 8:17 a.m. #70

well i can tell you in honesy from da bronx and i could careless who's an ass or not, I watch these videos for high level play and that's all, so what if you think jwong is a sweetheart or you think he's an ass, how about you just watch the way they play, learn from their playstyles get better and just play the game for fun. I play ssf4 pretty decently, all i do is try to learn huge combos and land them, thats all i do, i could careless about winning everytime, i could careless about jwong being a jerk. I went to chinatown and played Sabin he beat my ass and he didnt seem to jump around like a girl. If you take this game that serious then i suggest you just get a gf and some friends who play casually, thats it. Dont worry about how fat theze guys are or how big of jerks or how nice they are, just watch high level played street fighter, we all know mago, daigo, justin wong, and nemo will probably always win, so what if some are cocky? If you are named number 1 in america and can beat top level global players, im sure you'll have some confidence as well.

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