Tatsunoko vs. Capcom wave dash glitch

Posted by NyQuiiL on February 5, 2010 at 3:03 p.m. #1

Oh Great :/

Posted by I hate glitches on February 5, 2010 at 3:03 p.m. #2

Considering I play with local friends this won't be a problem for me. I'd hate to see people online take advantage of it though.

Posted by not a glitch on February 5, 2010 at 3:08 p.m. #3

not a glitch, just a new added element to the game engine

Posted by Ayje on February 5, 2010 at 3:09 p.m. #4

I doubt folks would ever try this in any tournament. Too much time trying to even get it to work. THe video looks sped up IMO.

Posted by Pingas on February 5, 2010 at 3:10 p.m. #5

Eh...This isn't going to be overpowered. Not a big deal.

Posted by Anonymous on February 5, 2010 at 3:17 p.m. #6

Holy crap. I don't know how easy it'll be to input that in the right timeframe but it looks like this has the potential to pretty powerful.

Posted by Quit trying to ruin TvC on February 5, 2010 at 3:20 p.m. #7

Hopefully it won't be of any use... Hopefully...

Posted by Zeb on February 5, 2010 at 3:25 p.m. #8

Woo, full screen dash means a rusher's paradise. I'll no scare long time with this.

Posted by udub on February 5, 2010 at 3:38 p.m. #9

Isn't really a wavedash, at least not by the definition I know. A wavedash is where you move along the ground in a non-dashing, non-recovering animation (so you're moving, but your standing moves come out at their normal speeds, not the modified speed/moveset you normally have while dashing). Melee's wavedashing (probably the most "famous" type), specifically, is performed by air-dodging into the ground -- it cancels the landing animation but your forward momentum carries you; this allows you to jump and wavedash again (allowing for the quick back-forth motion used in many of the mindgames and movement strategies at the high level), or use any other move, without the normal penalty frames of landing. I can't tell from the video whether the person was in a dash/running animation or not (not familiar enough with TvC myself, tbh), but it looked like it.

But really, that's just semantics. This style of "super dashing" (or whatever you want to call it) does seem very useful -- depending on your read of your opponent, you can quickly cancel into it (it'll take practice, but really, it's three inputs rather than the normal two of a dash in most games, it shouldn't be /too/ hard to adjust). Seems like it has potential to level up gameplay in TvC, it'll be cool to see what people do with it.

Posted by Not Hard on February 5, 2010 at 3:42 p.m. #10

This glitch isn't as hard as the video makes it out to be. The only characters that can't perform it in some form are Gold Lightan and Morrigan.

Also, its pretty fun, and I can't wait to see how it will affect the game.

Posted by powern up on February 5, 2010 at 4:16 p.m. #11

faster movement = bonus awesome. This game gets more fun every day I play

Posted by Balloon on February 5, 2010 at 4:25 p.m. #12

Here's the SRK link:

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.p...

I literally found this thread at the same time this post came up, and I even considered posting a link to it on the forums.

Posted by Vargr on February 5, 2010 at 4:28 p.m. #13

I'd imagine that this will make the game more offensive.

Posted by YES SIR! on February 5, 2010 at 4:59 p.m. #14

The first thing that went threw my mind was Wave Dash but it is different. Still kinda CHEESE MODE in my opinion. I am sure they could patch it if they wanted to. But Capcom has a hard time patching finished games, because they want people on the same level no matter how good or bad it is. Whoopie Goldburg!!!!

Posted by yeor on February 5, 2010 at 5:13 p.m. #15

woohoo

lots of streams this weekend.

i wonder if the east coast one will go down more than zeb's mom again.

Posted by LOL@Patch on February 5, 2010 at 5:15 p.m. #16

When was the last time Capcom cared enough about patching that they would do something to fix bugs, tweaks, and obvious OP imbalances? Especially considering you're talking about the Wii whose online support is decent at best =/

Posted by ... on February 5, 2010 at 5:29 p.m. #17

just like a mvc2 wavedash

smash wavedash is different.

Posted by LazyAndroid on February 5, 2010 at 5:43 p.m. #18

Why call it a bug? Why not call it a feature?

Posted by MeleeNerd on February 5, 2010 at 5:52 p.m. #19

Man Ice Climbers would be good in this game then :p

Posted by faq you on February 5, 2010 at 5:55 p.m. #20

bug
A software bug is the common term used to describe an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a computer program or system that produces an incorrect or unexpected result, or causes it to behave in unintended ways.

feature
A prominent or conspicuous part or characteristic.

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Posted by Harima on February 5, 2010 at 6:30 p.m. #21

I'm not liking where this is going...

Posted by lol on February 5, 2010 at 6:55 p.m. #22

thats what zeb's dad said 9 months later.

Posted by chickenwings on February 5, 2010 at 7:14 p.m. #23

Its a fact, capcom testers suck. If they really wanted to have a dash that brings u across the screen it would have been put in the game. I dont want to here about "it adds a new aspect to the game", its not intended gameplay and is a bug.

Posted by Yikes on February 5, 2010 at 7:21 p.m. #24

Looks like Dragonball Z in there. Whoosh.

They had better patch it and get rid of that. Chickenwings is correct that it is clearly not intended, it's the sort of thing that would quickly factionalize online players. Fighting games on the Wii don't need this problem.

Posted by Vargr on February 5, 2010 at 7:23 p.m. #25

Maybe someone understands the mechanics behind this, but to me this looks like the player is jump-cancelling their first dash and then cancelling the startup frames of the jump with a second dash.

Posted by noko on February 5, 2010 at 7:30 p.m. #26

And so the game begins to evolve.

Bring on the butthurt.

Posted by ARJ08 on February 5, 2010 at 7:49 p.m. #27

This game is wack...

Posted by lol butthurt on February 5, 2010 at 7:53 p.m. #28

It just make rushdowns faster, for essentially 90 percent of the cast. It's not like it only benefits a certain type of character, i.e flying characters and triangle jumping or cable and the ahvb. It's a new mechanic that may be a bug, but it doesn't break the game. When an easy infinite or a frameless super is discovered you can bitch, but until then just calm your pussies down and adapt.

Posted by juxtapose on February 5, 2010 at 8:06 p.m. #29

And yet another reason why this game is bubblegum.

Posted by stop releasing untested buggy trash on February 5, 2010 at 8:19 p.m. #30

calm down? get the fcuk out of here.

consumers have paid good money for products that do not work properly.

its not evolution, nor is it lame rushdown s1ht.

fix the bug, capcom is getting as bad as microsoft releasing trailer trash.

sony should revoke capcom's publishing rights if this continues.

Posted by dfe on February 5, 2010 at 8:48 p.m. #31

Rush down

Posted by juxtapose on February 5, 2010 at 8:50 p.m. #32

Ok, the bubblegum comment I made was kinda a joke, but ^^ THIS GUY is MAD serious. He's probably murdering hookers as we speak. Calm down, guy, it's just a game.

Posted by juxtapose on February 5, 2010 at 8:52 p.m. #33

Ok, dfe jumped in there. Ignore that. Go up one more. DOUBLE POST FOR GREAT JUSTICE.

Posted by random on February 5, 2010 at 9:34 p.m. #34

that's sick. this should make high level gameplay faster and funner to watch

Posted by Um on February 5, 2010 at 9:35 p.m. #35

Game = broken

Posted by dfe23 on February 5, 2010 at 9:54 p.m. #36

this is a glitch/bug and not some BS "feature" "added tech" capcom does not throw this crap in the mix like that

i did the glitch earlier and when you press the up forward you have to be real quick with returning to neutral or forward.

dont be a faggot smash head and call it a tech or added feature

Posted by XerisMox@gmail.com on February 5, 2010 at 10:14 p.m. #37

# 35 + #1 + #2 + All similar posts.

I will quote an earlier post to all of the scrubs on these boards. To all of the gamers on here who like to complain, who like to talk about cheese this, cheap that, buggy this, broken that, blah blah blah blah...

Meh, Nobodies making you play the game, looks cool / definitely not game breaking. (Esp. "Faggot Smash Head," Wonderful stuff there. Makes me have hope that 2012 IS inevitable.)

This is for you.

" Posted by noko on February 5, 2010 at 7:30 p.m. #26

And so the game begins to evolve.

Bring on the butthurt. "

Posted by runstop on February 5, 2010 at 10:20 p.m. #38

thank god they wont be promoting garbage like this at SBO.

Posted by Balloon on February 5, 2010 at 10:24 p.m. #39

@juxtapose: I think you're a funny guy.

@chickenwings & dfe23: Unintended doesn't always mean bad for the game.

Capcom didn't intend for players in SF2 to be able cancel the ending frames of their normal moves into a special, but it made the game better.
Negative edges, charge partioning, kara throwing, roll canceling, and option selects were all once "bugs" too. I'm not saying that games are awesome because of them, but (wait for it) the features add a new aspect to the game.

You wanna see an example of a company fixing their glitches? Ask Melee players why they don't play Brawl. Nintendo "fixed" that game.

The Smurvy dash may break the game, but it just as well may not. It's too early to tell one way or another.

Posted by Pete278 on February 5, 2010 at 10:31 p.m. #40

Imagine if Street Fighter had no cancelling at all. You guys forget how easily the fighting scene has developed from glitches that were obviously unintended. Before anyone goes 'yeah, but we're better now', we'll be better in the future. If a glitch turns out to be overpowered, or makes one character dominant, or anything, it should be removed. If it adds to the game, then its fine and should be implemented as a feature next time.

Posted by DeepTie on February 5, 2010 at 10:33 p.m. #41

I don't get you complainers. Do you complain about roll cancels and kara cancels too? How about SF4 armor cancels and or Gen's parry glitch? At worst these bugs sure could break the game but that glitch is pretty much open for any character to use and all it does is a full screen dash. It's not like games haven't had something like that before (Guilty Gear and KOF-series with a run-function).

I bet you are the same people who can't play Devil May Cry with jump cancels and parry cancels because "they are glitches and break the game" when all they do is make the game more interesting and deep.

Posted by slick rick on February 5, 2010 at 10:54 p.m. #42

it has begun...

Posted by glitches are great on February 5, 2010 at 11:03 p.m. #43

like the xbox 360 glitch which lets you take full control of the hypervisor and thus piracy and hacking on xbox live.

pure gold that users pay a subscription for.

Posted by @38 on February 6, 2010 at 12:07 a.m. #44

@38: lol retard. they did have this game at SBO when it was arcade.

also for other retards here that don't know sh*t except how to complain: mvc2 has bugs 100x worse than this and is still crazy fun and competitive. cvs2 was booooring until rollcancel, which is like the worst glitch ever. glitches like this make games better 9x out of 10, not worse.

Posted by Sh1nShoryuk3n on February 6, 2010 at 12:07 a.m. #45

And it doesn't matter for Zero players anyway, he runs after his dash either way

Posted by @45, on February 6, 2010 at 12:18 a.m. #46

It still is arcade as far as we know?
And its not at this years SBO due to being garbage.

Get it right, nut hugger.

Posted by retards........... on February 6, 2010 at 12:35 a.m. #47

if capcom listened to event scrubs back in the day.. SF would've ended like Smash Bros

Posted by hrm on February 6, 2010 at 12:57 a.m. #48

looks like the arcade version of continuum shift has been cracked

the taito type x 2 has been broken?

if so then it wont be long before the proper arcade version of sf4 is available!

oh man, the possibilities, especially reversing the nesys stuff...

Posted by shinygerbil on February 6, 2010 at 3:05 a.m. #49

actually I don't think you *have* to return to neutral after the last input. I do 6,6,9~6. It only works when you hold the 9 for a very short length of time - if you hold it too long you end up jumping, of course.

AND for all you moaners bitching about this mechanic/glitch/bug/whatever....shut up and learn to do it, then go away and play with it, then come back once you know something about it. Oh wait, you're all just butthurt because you can't pull it off and you think that's "unfair".

Well...it's not.

Firstly, it's not character-specific (Lightan and Morrigan are the only ones who cant, and it's not very useful for Tekkaman Blade or Roll either) so it's still a fairly level playing field.

Secondly, it's only been a few days maximum since this has been discovered. So *IF* this thing becomes a regular part of gameplay, it's likely that people's strategies will, in time, change and adapt to incorporate this new technique. For all we know, this will end up being useless or negated by some other technique or whatever.

tl;dr: you're all whiny bitches lol.

also @49: ooooooooollllllldddddd nnnnnnneeeeeewwwwwwsssss

Posted by @50, on February 6, 2010 at 3:18 a.m. #50

yeah just checked around the place regarding the type x2 blazblue stuff... seems legit.

they shouldve done an arcade version of super sf4, cuz now they'll probably leak the arcade sf4 files in spite.

not good at all.

Posted by wer on February 6, 2010 at 6:12 a.m. #51

Another Capcom game where competitive play becomes based around ridiculous glitches. Yawn.

Posted by Wolf on February 6, 2010 at 8:15 a.m. #52

#47 UAS is not in arcade, only CGoH, and CGoH is still getting weekly vids in the arcades, so no, it's not because it's garbage.

Posted by anon on February 6, 2010 at 9:26 a.m. #53

anon comments have made this the truly stupidest street fighter site on the net. a totally amazing feat! I feel like I get dumber every time I come here and read comments.

Posted by NEWS!!! on February 6, 2010 at 9:30 a.m. #54

stop this stupid TVC crap where's the real deal ? SSF4 news?

Posted by wr on February 6, 2010 at 9:42 a.m. #55

Im guessing there wont be any news on ssf4 until a week or two from release. it keeps the audience's attention, building more suspense and hype and MORE BUYERSSSSSSS

Posted by SuperV on February 6, 2010 at 10:17 a.m. #56

Ugh, these glitches.

Posted by Tank McCannon on February 6, 2010 at 10:55 a.m. #57

Lmao at everyone crying about glitches. When life gives you lemons...

Posted by Cool. on February 6, 2010 at 10:56 a.m. #58

Cool glitch.. But im pretty sure its gonna be really hard to take full advantage of.

Posted by ccopy on February 6, 2010 at 11:31 a.m. #59

Multiple people have said you can pull this off by doing a toward, toward and then up-toward tap on the joystick, but you have to let the joystick return to neutral each time. So, it'd be toward, neutral, toward, neutral, up-toward, neutral

Posted by n00b_saib0t on February 6, 2010 at 11:53 a.m. #60

looks like a good way to catch your opponent napping. makes the game into a RTSD or very defensive game, since youre either doing this or looking to block it. given the nature of VS series titles, its going to end up being RTSD.

Posted by K' on February 6, 2010 at 1:34 p.m. #61

I just hope this doesn't break it like roll canceling did to CvS2.

Posted by n00b_saib0t on February 6, 2010 at 1:55 p.m. #62

@ #62

except roll canceling didnt break CvS2, it made CvS2. roll cancel changed the game and the tiers in a positive way. it made a lot of characters able to keep up with the top characters.

Posted by Marn on February 6, 2010 at 2:17 p.m. #63

I will be using this in tourneys.

F*ck SSFIV.

Justin, i miss you!!!

Posted by who cares on February 6, 2010 at 3:20 p.m. #64

who cares?

Posted by uoh uoh on February 6, 2010 at 3:49 p.m. #65

At least eventhubs haven't posted any more irrelevance today

Posted by Boob naybot on February 6, 2010 at 4:23 p.m. #66

I cant do it... Im selling my copy.

Posted by eh on February 6, 2010 at 8:25 p.m. #67

#67
crybaby.

Posted by nope on February 6, 2010 at 11:01 p.m. #68

broken already wont be getting this

Posted by thepirategeek on February 6, 2010 at 11:48 p.m. #69

LOL
Far from broken
And it's not so easy to do.
Even if so, it's far from MvC2 broken
TvC is worth your money and a complete blast to play.

Posted by Rock on February 7, 2010 at 9:30 a.m. #70

its not a glitch and its not wavedash.

double/trippledash is cool. i like it. makes the game faster and more chances for offensive gameplay !

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