The first video should be called "30 minutes in paradise"
Seriously though, guile got alot of uncalled for nerfs
@zukuu
thats because everyone using him in AE are really sh*t, they cant take the pressure and just start jumping to get in or out of situations, during the guile fight that guy should of just lamed it out with BS and fake BS while dashing in.
Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom Tiger shot Sonic boom
Most amazing sh*t I ever seen!
Yeah that 1st video was boring as hell till it got to the 31 min mark. I hate Guile with a passion. And hate his game, its soooo f*cking boring
Ok! we all know Yun is good. Can we see some more Yang please?
@13
Thats funny because if guile from vanilla went into AE, it's actually a buff. He'd have damage buffs on several normals, his flashkick, and he'd gain meter faster.
@14
Noone wants to see yang, he's "boring". We need not to see anymore unpopular fighters like guile because footsies, zoning, and frankly..thinking are very boring.
@17 So Yang is "boring" and spamming Sonic booms with Guile is "thinking" LMAO!
@ 20 for your next lesson try looking up sarcasm, come back if you can't understand and i'll teach you.
Seriously though, judging from watching justin wong play yang, he looks like he's got as many moves as guile if not less. Also noted is that he has some good pokes, and you and the other guy whoever he was, dont like pokes like most of the eventhubs community. Yang seems to involve more spacing than his brother yun who just seems to divekick everyone into oblivion.
Using pokes, footsies, and zoning amount to thinking in this game. There's a constant mindgame going on there which you can't appreciate so you'd just rather it be removed. If you wanted to think,you'd pick up a book,right?
@17 spamming sonic boom until they fry to jump in and taking advantage of guile's broken recovery is not thinking.
I might end up playing yun because he feels like what my main, Guy, should have been.
that being said even in third strike I was always Yang. so i'm torn lol.
@22
Guiles recovery was better in other games, was it broken then or are we just being scrubby? I bet you that 100% of the people who sound exactly like you and the other guys here who get this site it's nickname, try guile and get bodied and ask for nerfs anyways.
@ 24
everyone knows guile in the games he's in is either really good or really bad, the nerfs capcom gave him in AE are suppose to put him somewhere in the middle of those 2 extremes.
as I said above I main Guy, I don't change who I play with just because "guile is better" his recovery is stupid fast, you can hozanto under a close rage SB and he can block it before he even finishes saying "sonic boom"
now if I played guile and got as good with him as I am with Guy and I still get bodied every time your statement would be valid.
but if you are getting bodied and you main guy, you might not want to throw around the "scrubs" so much
"but if you are getting bodied and you main *Guile*, you might not want to throw around the "scrubs" so much"
is what that should say
SUPPOSED to, but like i said elsewhere alot of pro's just think he's not even worth playing now.
If you played guile, you'd realize that like almost anyone, he's only scary when you don't know the matchup. Guile has all the same weaknesses in super that he had in vanilla, and that's ALOT, but now he has even more in AE so that's why pros are talking about dropping him.
I don't main guy, i don't have the controller and that really looks like a hard person to play. I tried maining him back in alpha though.I don't really get bodied maining guile, but i bet all the guiles i come across probably do.
The 1st vid was sooooooo boring for the 1st 30 mins..especially when he was fighting sagat. "Tiger shot sonic boom tiger shot sonic boom" all day..wtf.? The guile was more of an annoying fighter than an awesome one. But things got going after guile got bested by my main.! Adon ftw.! I don't see y everyone is complaining about Yun..he looks very interesting..although I wudnt mind seeing a lot more yang.
@ samuraix025
Please disregard anything that MadnessFamilyGuile says. He always thinks that what he says is right even though it's obviously wrong. Guile is one of the easiest characters to play but he thinks you need skill to play him.
All you need to know is, how to walk backwards for charge, sonic boom / flash kick, cr. HP, and back air grab. The occasional normal pokes Guile throws in there while he is using a slow sonic boom as a force field does not constitute as mindful poking. SMH.
Did they remove Cammy's tkcs because it was free meter gain from far away? Because if they did then they messed up because Yun can run away and do an easier move for more meter.
Please, don't listen to anyone who's not a scrub. Voice your opinion guys! We need more people who know nothing about the game to ask for nerfs!
Seriously, any idiot can get into crossup range on guile...except maybe crispy.
MadnessFamilyguile is very funny, guile is very strong in super, in ae it have nerfs but they arent so big so dont cry, have you seen the buff on he crounching move? thats very insane, if you think guile have a lot of weakness so you must be a noob with him
you think guile is lame?? try to main el fuerte, gen, t.hawk, hakan, well all the medium or low tiers, you have problems with those cross up? you havent play with vega with no reversal and really poor jabs...
so please give you a favor and main another character if you cant with guile.
@ 33
That's their justification for it. I thought the exact same thing. That Yun move where he pushes the air is so awesome. If he gets his hands out, there are a lot of active frames and it beats almost everything.
I saw in one of these videos where he puts his hands out, and it beat Guile's flash kick..... O_O
Because it's frustrating that their are soo many terrible players out there that capcom feels pressured to please them by dumbing down the game.
You wouldn't understand, like you don't understand that bison isn't a defensive character.
@33
They nerfed tkcs because scrubs don't know what an option select is. Nerf can gain meter that fast...because.
Looks like Fei has frame advantage on his second lp rekka now. Key word is "looks".
@41 I am not a scrub but I personally don't like option selects even being in the game at all. Letting a game decide the best possible out come in almost every situation makes any player look good but doesn't show much skill. Anytime you can option select and get a free two for one in most situation without knowing or being able to react to someone's backdash or random air jumping naturally makes the game kinda feel like you are cheating. Just a personal opinion of mine but I guess if its in the game people are gonna use it especially if it helps them win.
As a Cody main,I really would love to see how much Cody has changed.These videos arent doing much justice,they showing the same characters over and over,I wanna see not just Cody's but everyones changes,not just Guile and Makoto beating everyone
@42
Hey it's your opinion. Atleast you actually know how it works instead of asking for it to be nerfed because it gave you difficulty.
Truth be told, i felt that way the first time i heard about them, but if you think about it the same thing exists in real life fighting..sorta.
Cody players should be pretty happy. BEfore last game came out everyone was talking about how strong he would be because of combo potential, damage and frametraps. Most characters have been nerfed while cody got some good buffs, should be pretty damn good now.
Not that he was ever bad
Retards ask for nerfs to what they don't understand, that's all.
You new kids to fighting games are so cute with your little theory fighting and tier discussion for a one week old f***ing game. It is also funny when you guys make fun of Sonic Booms and Tiger Shots.... it is called zoning children and its a big part of fighting games. Take your theory fighting and whining about zoning and get the f*** back to playing first person shooters.
well as a Vega player im pleased with the changes....he feels "better" and also playing with Makoto made me smile...can't wait to play it again.
although unrelated to this post...there's a new mvc3 trailer on capcom japan's mvc3 website; only new piece of info is that it looks like every character announced so far will appear in one of the different 'episodes'/cinematic movies -- namely felicia, zero, thor etc.
didn't anyone saw the weird landing of Ken's EX Tatsu at 08:02 of the 1st video
he floated forward
I love how every single AE vid I've seen posted on here, the comments section turns into a massive flame war. Might as well change "Post a comment" into "Post your opinion which will undoubtedly be slammed by everyone on the site".
@ MadnessFamilyGuile
dude seriously i understand you and respect everything you say shows your a true gamer and you want to help the community, but honestly you should give up on trying explain to people like crispy and samurai
Samurai wasnt too bad, maining guy even in a game as well balanced as super must take a ton of heart.
But probably it's better for me to post good news to anyone who mains characters who actually saw buffs and positive changes. So i think that's what i might do
Here's a good link to some matches for cody players
And more. Cody does a ton of damage like always, even to Thawk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CVTiw...
Actually, here. http://shoryuken.com/f330/ssf4-cody-a...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...
For the guy players
@ 41 NumeroGaijin
Don't like option selects being in the game? It's not possible to make a fighting game and not have some sort of option selects. It's not like the developers sit around and say "Oh lets make this option select, and this one lol that'll be cool". It's just based on how the game prioritises different things
@ MadnessFamilyGuile
Why even bother trying to be sarcastic when it doesnt work in text form?
I get footsies and all that. But it dosnt stop it from being boring to watch. Even a good Guile is boring to watch. same goes for Ryu. I would rather watch someone like Gamerbee or Mike Ross bcos they use characters that are more entertaining to watch. It just so happens that they dont use "safe" characters.
@MadnessFamilyGuile
Then go play/watch another f***ing game and quit whining.
@69
What the hell are you talking about idiot?
@68
Oh it definitely works. It wouldnt be boring to watch if you could appreciate the mindgame going on, like i said. It's boring to watch because you do't know what's happening, like people complaining about lyoto machida etc etc in real life
Of cause i know whats going on!!! Ive being playing street fighter since 1987. Most likely, way before you were even born.
My point is, watching characters like Guile and Ryu do it is boring bcos there 'safe' characters
If i were actually younger than you, i'd be complaining that it was boring. Only thing boring about the game is when you keep seeing the same characters over and over.
Don't know how anyone with that much experience can claim they are "safe", especially in this game with all the nerfs.
Let the scrubs complain and just leave them be, they aren't worth your intelligence (anyone who actually tries to understand the game).
This forum has the substance of why characters get the nerfs that they get. People don't realize how much skill it takes to anti-air and zone with Guile against someone who is good with Rufus, Cammy, or Fei Long. They don't appreciate thinking in steps and tricking their opponent.
It takes discipline to be good at "anything" and they do not have the discipline to be good players. Discipline in a fighting game entails adapting and learning, not whining and expecting cheap wins.
Ryu is what i call 'safe' bcos of all the options he has. and most of them arent that hard to pull off. example, one counter light shoryuken and you have ultra or super set up. And Guile bcos if you know what your doing, you can turtle all day. you very rarely see guiles and ryus taking risks, bcos the characters arent set up that way. they can hide behind theres footsies, high priority moves and fireballs. IMO thats not entertaining.
Whereas characters like Adon or C.Viper for example,have less options, less health and require strict timing for there combos n tricks to work
@73
Couldn't agree with you more. They nerf the game to prevent these cheap victories and make every victory a hard fought battle, not just a battle where you spam one move constantly and win every time.
With regards to Guile play, it's not as boring as you'd think. I've experimented with Guile numerous times before, and he's a pretty fun character to use. What many people don't realize is how crucial and difficult it can be to get proper spacing to shut down your opponent. If you can't zone the hell out of your opponent and keep him at a range where you can shut him down with pokes, you're gonna get bumrushed.
@#44 in my opinion no character is bad in this game,i get my ass handed 2 me by the whole casted,all these changes are gonna drastically change sf4,i want to see more variety ya know?its nice to see this character change and what not,but most the characters alot of ppl would like to see arent getting much time/not enough time/or some guy just rapes them,lol
Good stuff =D