Following up on the previous story, more impressions for Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition have come up, covering Blanka, Gen, Gouken, Guy and Guile along with some notes from Tokido and a few other general bits.
Just to sort of clarify something, while 10,000 BP seems like a lot and actually is, the arcade ranking system is different than the consoles online system. Around 60 wins will net you 10,000+ BP. Of course I'm not saying this to take anything away from Daigo, I'm sure his Yun is amazing. Just thought people should be aware of this.
am i the only one who feels like a lot of these changes are some what pointless, and avoid fixing the fundamental problems with these characters?
:/ i dunno
Man I was hoping Akuma can do his dp fadc U2 combo. Oh well, however, suppposely standing hp > teleport > U2 works better now. I'm curious about the damage it can cause.
Why is there no footage of Evil Ryu or his buddy yet????
@12: I think a lot of people took what Daigo said the wrong way. I believe he meant AE wouldn't be his main focus until it is confirmed for a console release. Of course he would play it, just not as seriously as Super.
10,000 huh well some reports maybe not be true right?
^^^^
yeah i was really disappointed, i thought that his light punch running palm would be what he needed to convert his pokes and light attacks into damage, but it turns out its range and priority is piss poor :(
1. Daigo Umehara (Yun) – 16,067 BP, 89% win rate
2. Matsugoro (Dudley) – 13,145 BP, 86% win rate
3. aka jojo (M.Bison) – 11,828 BP, 84% win rate
4. opa (Balrog) – 11,565 BP, 90% win rate
5. Simba (Abel) – 11,321 BP, 93% win rate
Current ranking.
If Daigo can net that many points in such a short time with a new iteration of Yun *applause*. Hopefully most players won't cry broken; then again its a new match up for most to learn. Also its only the first day :P. Can't wait to play Yun.
Hmm.. about Akuma's Ultra 2.. has anyone tried it as an anti air instead of a ground to ground ultra? Since it misses alot on the ground.. maybe it was meant to be used as an anti air.. just buffer the motions with a crouching weak/medium kick then use it?
Has anyone tried it that way yet?
"EX Rainbow Ball's distance is about 2/3rd of what it used to be, but it also changed so that he bounces a little bit back as well. You could get punished from escaping with this now, depending on the character you're up against."
Some characters (such as Ryu) could always punish EX rainbow ball before it takes off. Who wasn't aware of this, Choco or the translator?
man get ready for the next round of nerf calls for yun. you noobs.
but, man, i played my ass off couldn't get to 10000 BP on xbox live. daigo basically got it in a day,lmao....
show me some footage of daigo's ryun please. can't wait!
the FADC ryu daigo trademark is officially history now...
I'll repeat what I said before since most people don't seem to be reading it. *ARCADE RANKING SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT FROM CONSOLE*
10,000 BP is about 60 wins. Please understand that before you make a comment on how long it takes to reach that number online.
@31: Unless I'm reading what you are saying wrong, you're saying Ryu can punish before Blanka flies away from the opponent. I think what Choco is saying is that after he lands from EX Rainbow Ball he can get punished by certain characters. So it's basically not an escape tool anymore.
So... M.Bison is finally not top tier. Good. I enjoyed by character getting good, but with all the flak about being overpowered wasn't worth it.
Unfortunately... a character I've picked up a few months ago is starting to be rumored to be top tier: Fei Long. Honestly, what I can say about him is he's really fun to play as. The best thing about him is that he has the tools to take on just about everyone; no 3-7 match ups here.
I am interested in Yang though. I never played 3S, and you might call me a noob, but the reason why I took a liking to him... He's got a bitchin' hat (Yeah... I said it). Plus he's on the same page as Makoto with the nutshot :p
And @9
I agree! I thought someone would have figured it out by now. My guess is:
Evil Ryu: 3 Perfects, No continues, all rounds complete in less than 20 sec.
Oni Akuma: All perfects, No continues, all rounds complete in less than 20 sec, 3 Ultra combo finishers. (Do the math o.O)
@37
you think it'll be that long before it hits consoles?
It's going to mess with the tournament scene having 2 versions .If they want to keep the SF tournament scene as strong as it is I think everyone needs to be playing the same game pretty quick
@mark_morrison
LMFAO !!! if that is true and go ahead no 1's gonna stop you lool
• A lot of people are talking about how strong Yang and Yun are right now.
The real question is, are they balanced? Yeah, yeah, we all know how 'gamechanging' and 'breathtakingly original' the Genei Jin is, but are they balanced additions to the cast or just SF4 Sagat all over again?
@38 ahh.. I think you're referring to Yun. He's the one with the hat. Yang is the one with long spiky red/brown hair.
@47
obviously you would do that as to not risk them blocking your ex hurricane kick, because if they block it its one of the most punishable moves in the game.
so if it hit, do your medium palm, if not, do a block string, just like how if your ryu and it hits you do ultra, but if it doesnt you go for the block string
People are just not use to the match up yet, you need to give it time. I would'nt even count the first few weeks as fair. When SSFIV came out I played a little Guy and I massed about 5K BP in two days then stopped playing to build up Chun which at a point was almost 9K in a few weeks. After a month or so went buy people started catching on, I still only average about 7500 for Chun and my Guy rating has been going down.
It's only a matter of time. Still sad that the very character Daigo is using is Yun, when people start playing this on consoles they are gonna whore him. I really wanted to play him regardless of how strong he was :(
@47 Well if you can hitconfirm the 7 frame move then sure just do it empty:P Seriously though the main thing is that that probably also means You wont dash under it when ultraing and hells yes to that.
I just found out my local arcade is getting the AE machine, it's on it's way now! YES!!! Planet Zero in Houston if you're close yo!
@Malda
Don't feed the trolls, they won't ever leave if you do.
bisonisascrub
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Have you ever done a 2+ hit combo?
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GF scrub.
@38
you dirty mind f-ing dingus!
I shake my fist at you with ur theory of fighting Oni Akuma by having all perfects and 3 Ultra finishes (i did the math,i passed my calculus class) ::shakes fist harder::
Oh my god I can't believe none of you guys have said this yet but "IT'S OVER 9,000!"
@51 your kidding on Original right please tell me you are...
Really wished hondas headbutt's range would be nerfed. Honda, though, might have a tough time against yang if he can ultra 1 honda's ex on block.
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Once again theres hardly a thing given to Gen that would actually make him better. Every gen player begged and screamed and shouted for an ex oga back since the day word came out of its removal in ss4. But what do they do? Added tcs!
I think capcom has this mentality that Gen is just a hard character to learn, when they don't realize that its more than just that. It explains why they gave him target combos, which are supposed to be "easy links" We don't care if you remove his ultra 2, just give him a better option other than gekiro. How hard is that? They even let akuma keep his teleport. All you people complain about the loss of damage or less priority on a move. You think you guys got it bad? Gens crane crouching jab is punishable from a light shoryuken. A GOD DAMN JAB!
@Genuserx:
Why should Capcom take away Akuam's teleport? What's so broken about that move? He has that move in ALL the games he has been.
What Capcom should include for Gen is bring back his target combos from Alpha. Yun and Yang kept theirs from SF III. Why can't Gen? I never understood that.
@genuserx
your comment made me laugh so god damn hard lool I could feel your anger and frustration, it was delicious lool LMFAO
@74
I LOVE YOUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (no homo)
funniest one was
"have you ever decided to switch your name from blankaisascrub to bisonisascrub."
and
"do you like candy canes? up your butt?"
where do geniuses like you come up with this stuff.
LOL Bisonisascrub is a troll . I have to admit... Bison, it seems you NEVER have anything positive to say. It's always bashing. Sorry bro, but facts are facts. Why else would so many other people be calling you a troll? If I was the lone person, I could see it just being my opinion....... BUUUUUT, since there are many others who feel the same way........ Whats the old saying ? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...........
@74 Von_Kunlun -
OMG, That was like the funniest thing I have read all day. Totally made my night. Too funny!! I literally laughed out loud. good one bro. good one;>)
@ #100 BisonBetterBeGoodInSF4-
NO way bro, the funniest was when he asked " Have you ever felt a female breast" - OMG I DIED LAUGHING!! Whooo, that almost made me cry lol.
some things from jap thread http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/game/51604/
lp spd range and damage increased. fp spd dmg is awesome.much safer on 1hit exgh due to increased hit back, out of ryu c.mkexgh 2hit has 2 conditions depending on the initial hit distance.gh regardlress of ex or not will knock down on counter hit.if you hit opponent during fireball motion, it will knock down.sometimes it ends up too far like 1hit, sometimes its very close and can continue attackingu2 rage goes about half a screen, catches back jump easy. usually safe on miss by moving away too
lol daigo already has more bp in one day than most xbox live users do over the entire year.
why don't we have yun yang e.ryu and s.akuma videos, i mean japan they are playing it so what is the big deal showing yun yang and co. videos, this is stupid plot to make people yank on the cords of all the internet sites, sad. what in the world, humans are playing it in public and they thing it is precious to us that are not there. what stupidity!!!
Damn, we need WAYYY more nerfs for this game to be dumbed down enough, come on capcom
10000 BP awarded by Capcom because you can't speed run 2500 in a day let alone 10000. Capcom is just promoting Diago nothing else.
Cry more StopSpamming, you big baby. You just butthurt massively that your favorite character didn't get in, and even more butthurt that people are playing the game for themselves and not for you.
Also, lol at the people doubting that Daigo can't make point like that on his own when there is an Ibuki player and several others as well with the same BP. Stay free.
Hmmm...wonder how useful his jab running palm'll be? Though it still's a bit of a let down (according to those that tried him) it doesn't have any priority. Gouken's still my main no matter what. In the right hands, he can just frustrate you lol. Then again, I don't recall any of his running palms having any priority. It's no SRK. I still think he got some benifits.
Yo Free1Up
My Nike Dunks want to meet with your Bison's rear end. I wanna rematch you jive sucka lol. And yes I was surprised to see another Bison player that used st. HK so well in the corner.
I wish Guy had a reliable wakeup lol.
Guy's Bushin Muso Renge better be buffed. Thing has potential but sucks *** because this game rather favor regular throws over command grabs
Okey I just came back from Playing som Arcade Edition at Takadanobaba in Tokyo. I'm a cammy player so I'm glad that I get to play her finally on the Arcade.
What I noticed is that Instant Cannon Strike doesn't work. I haven't played SSF4 since Juli so I was abit chocked. Otherwise it went so so, 50% win approx.
Didn't get to see any shin akuma or evil ryu but yung and yang where there.
Well Fcuk you Capcom....for nerfing all my favorite chars.
WHY NERF GUILE you sonza bitches. Sonic boom meter build has been halved – This is probably the biggest nerf of all the time. Just seeing this I can tell that his difficult match ups will be even harder. But I will continue to main Guile. His play style suits my type.
And Why not amend Sagat?? I was really hoping they'd make Tiger Uppercut to damage at least 130-140 but it doesnt seem to happen. Akuma's still an underdog :(
I hope Ryu's Light DP -> Ultra is reality. cause thats only betterment they'd be bringing from sssf4.
Looks like some yun and yang di#k riders are working for capcom afterall. Fcuk that Sh*t.
http://www.neoempire.com/ Yun and Yang vids are up!
@116
When I did the instant cannon strike it didn't work, and when I tried to jump and do one fast I usually just flew up with a kick in the air. So they must have nerfed it to some height. But sure *I remember I got in one around head height. If I combed after, I don't remember :).
Why would they nerf a combo (Guile's flash kick FADC into ultra) that was very difficult to do and didn't do much damage in the first place? Even the best Guiles in the world weren't landing this combo with any consistency. Meanwhile, Rufus players keep their autocombo ultra basically...
I don't get their logic sometimes. If the sonic boom meter build is indeed halved, way to overcompensate there. Why not 10% or 25%...not 50% lol.
@ Bisonisascrub -
Who cares if Catalyst is gay?? Seriously bro, its 2010 going on 2011. If you still are caught up on sexuality, you really need to grow up. To even make a comment like that is childlike.
@SmoothJK
They didn't nerf the combo, it's just his overall damage that got nerfed to the point where it doesn't do much damage.
oh my SmoothJK.... dont be a scrub
Go back and look up what they nerf on Guile and you will understand why he does WEEK damage. but i will list it for you.
ALL low,mid,hard Flash kick, ULTRA,and NORMALS : back hand knuckle, upside down kick. << all of that moves are all DAMAGE reduce.
GUILE is no more good. WHEN flash kick get STUFF, WHIFF or even it connected.. its SUCKKKKSSSS.. and yea our sonic boom for low, mid, hard is all 50 damage <<< lame Guile
@Random John
People would claim that capcom is trying to get rid of free escapes from characters (gens oga, ryus tatsu escape, etc) BUT what pisses me off is that they let AKUMA keep an un-nerfed teleport. He not only has a srk but a teleport. Those are both the best escape moves in the game. They nerf vegas flips, they nerf gens ex oga, but they don't nerf that teleport. It requires no meter, its hard for most characters to punish and so on. Gen users would shout in joy if we could have a move like that. Instead we settle for a crappy ex gekiro that can be jabbed out of -_-
@ratedRsuperstar
Changes were already a while ago. No sweat though. Dee Jay got buffed like a MF and hardly got nerfed. Get hyped
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