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Oni or Shin Akuma, the official name? Seth responds...

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • December 7, 2010 at 3:48 p.m. PST
Oni or Shin Akuma, the official name? Seth responds... Many people have been arguing with the appearance of Oni Akuma and Evil Ryu in Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition, what their official Capcom names were.

Fieasco noticed that Destructoid shot that question over to Capcom's Seth Killian, and he responded with this.

Seth: Ahh, but that would be telling. Even way back in his first appearance, was “Evil Ryu” really Ryu at all? His warrior’s heart was swallowed up by the dark hadou, and what is Ryu without that pure-hearted drive? Is Darth Vader really Anakin Skywalker? All will be revealed!

Oni or Shin Akuma, Evil Ryu? What's your opinion on the matter? Feel free to speculate below, until an official answer surfaces in the future.

Comments

JEABOI said on December 7, 2010 at 3:51 p.m.

That isn't Oni Akuma! It's Ogre from Mugen!!!

#1
h00dRaTT said on December 7, 2010 at 3:52 p.m.

Satsui no hadou aka Rabies.

#2
ScytheWP said on December 7, 2010 at 3:52 p.m.

Shin Akuma

I don't know where Oni even came from, but it's not as appealing.

#3
shichi said on December 7, 2010 at 3:52 p.m.

Super Saiyan Akuma

#4
Paine said on December 7, 2010 at 3:53 p.m.

I'm very interested now. I wonder what they will officially be called.

#5
Hakansoilbarrel said on December 7, 2010 at 3:54 p.m.

(Oily Akuma? Saikyo Akuma?)

#6
Von_Kunlun_BOOF said on December 7, 2010 at 3:55 p.m.

We never hear anything about Blanka's father...

WE FOUND HIS DADDY!!!!

Blanka = green
This guy = purple

THEY'RE BOTH COLORS OTHER THAN WHAT YOU WOULD USUALLY SEE ON A PERSON!!!

#7
jhayze said on December 7, 2010 at 3:57 p.m.

purple nurple akuma

#8
Lemres said on December 7, 2010 at 3:57 p.m.

still wished that they put in previous sf chars instead of evil versions of chars we have. still hoping for karin in sfxtk

#9
Troppop said on December 7, 2010 at 3:57 p.m.

If they appear playable (I know I know, just trying to be diplomatic) and have completely different movesets...
I'll just sit and wait for the "Told you so!" =D

#10
BlankaBeast said on December 7, 2010 at 3:59 p.m.

My opinion is if AE is not brought to PC, then Slapcom is a dumb terd.

#11
geni said on December 7, 2010 at 4:04 p.m.

evil Ryu, oni Akuma still such a waste of space when so many other characters are available

#12
ChunLi said on December 7, 2010 at 4:07 p.m.

So...Shin Akuma is E.Ryu's father?

:o

#13
drO said on December 7, 2010 at 4:10 p.m.

Why is Seth acting like we care about the story? Just add characters people have been asking for. To really try to add some canon to the clusterf#$k that is SFIV is ridiculous. Even if these two characters aren't playable atm they will be later. Hopefully we see a time released Karin and Rolento...

#14
Mit said on December 7, 2010 at 4:17 p.m.

I'll tell you what, in the end, no matter what they officially name him, it's not going to be Oni Akuma.

"Devil devil"

#15
DumbDLC said on December 7, 2010 at 4:20 p.m.

seth kil is fuking stupid just answer a damn question for once!

#16
Kooki said on December 7, 2010 at 4:20 p.m.

@8
Not if u were Doug Funny... :O

I really like the name "Oni Akuma" even though it sounds redundant... I really wish they didnt make more Hadou-like characters in this game ;_;

#17
Mr_Clack said on December 7, 2010 at 4:24 p.m.

If Capcom wanted to scare people they should have put GILL!!

#18
Creeper said on December 7, 2010 at 4:29 p.m.

I think this is Seth Killian's funniest question dodge yet, I'm genuinely amused by it.

#19
JanTheMan said on December 7, 2010 at 4:35 p.m.

I don't even care XD

#20
Him said on December 7, 2010 at 4:39 p.m.

It didn't matter in CvS2, so it shouldn't matter what the name is now. Ryu, was sti 'Ryu' in CvS2

#21
WolfScar24 said on December 7, 2010 at 4:39 p.m.

I have a question...PLEASE MAKE EVIL RYU AND SHIN/ONI/WHATEVER AKUMA SELECTABLE! I don't think you truly understand how long me and so many others have been waiting for Evil Ryu to be playable in the new generation please DO NOT let us down guys because we all want to see that Ultra named Wrath of Metsu Raging Shoryuken Demon Armaggedon Hadoken...wow just imagine the input to such a move you would need 2 fight sticks I'm serious though guys make this happen for the fans (and for Wrath of Metsu Raging Shoryuken Demon Armaggedon Hadoken)

#22
Sakura said on December 7, 2010 at 4:41 p.m.

Still waiting for slightly irritated Ken and PMS Sakura...

#23
darko_p86 said on December 7, 2010 at 4:48 p.m.

Shin or Oni Akuma

Shin Akuma is just Akuma, who ONLY got more evil. Matter of fact, why create a Shin Akuma in the first place? he is already enraged and flaming just being plain akuma. whats the point of having more rage and look slightly meaner?

Evil Ryu

Evil Ryu is just Ryu, only now he is at Akumas stage 1. He hs "transcended" as Akuma likes to say it. Swallowed by Evil or hadou, whatever.

BUT WHY OH WHY PUT THE SAME CHARACTERS INTO THE TWICE???? Oni Akuma is Akuma, only more evil. SAME CHARCTER. Evil Ryu is Ryu only more evil. SAMER CHARACTER. Devil Jin is Jin, only more evil. SAME CHARACTER!!!!! WHHYYY. waste of spots.

Nevertheless, since there is no way back now, i wonder how they will play compaired to their normal counterpart. Will they be overpowered and make their originals obsolete? will they have drawbacks compaired to their originals? all that and more...stay uned

Way of the EVILNESS

Ryu ***

Akuma ****

Evil Ryu ****

Oni Akuma *****

As you can see, the evilness increases with the name. On here, regular Akuma and Evil Ryu are on the same level, but then Akuma has to always be a step ahead and go Oni Akuma. This is the way i see it. BUT, still they are the same characters after all.

#24
WinstonChurchill said on December 7, 2010 at 4:58 p.m.

moan moan, whine whine haha

#25
foreverbadass said on December 7, 2010 at 5:03 p.m.

He's clearly Smurf Akuma.

#26
NEWkidCJ said on December 7, 2010 at 5:05 p.m.

Yea what #11 said.

#27
zero2269 said on December 7, 2010 at 5:05 p.m.

oni akuma cus of the color if u see shin akuma is kind of red skin

#28
Utils said on December 7, 2010 at 5:05 p.m.

QUICK CHANGE RYU!

#29
CharlieKenSon said on December 7, 2010 at 5:09 p.m.

If they were gonna put in another shoto, they should put in Violent Ken. Let him get some shine. How many versions of Akuma do we need!? Let Gouken go krazy dark evil or something. Give us a twist instead of Evil/Shin all the time. Boooo!

#30
DestinyZX1 said on December 7, 2010 at 5:12 p.m.

I always consider Evil Ryu as a what-if, a version of Ryu who has succumbed to the Satsui no Hadou and embraces it desiring nothing more than to destroy just like with Anakin bcoming Darth Vader giving into the dark side.

As for Akuma though, him in the regular black Gi is a warrior who fights only if his opponents proves to be a challenge. Despite this, I feel he has a code meaning that he won't fight anyone weak. As for Shin Akuma aka Akuma with purple gi is Akuma at full power meaning he'll unleash his fury upon you and from previous experiences dealing with Shin Akuma especially in Alpha 3, it's no exception.

#31
SHOGUN said on December 7, 2010 at 5:17 p.m.

Evil Sakura from MvC 2 would be a good edition too.

Or Cyber Akuma! Or Shadow Lady!

#32
genesiskhan said on December 7, 2010 at 5:17 p.m.

honestly its fighting game history. remember back when all games did this or most fighting games. take a popular character and beefing them up. like nightmare from soul edge and countless others. just be cool with the fact that maybe u can kick the crap out of ryu with ryu would be funny. but im sure there not that strong either with all the user friendly adjustments there making in AE.

#33
Creeper said on December 7, 2010 at 5:19 p.m.

I'm still convinced they're both practically reskins with tweaked attributes who only appear in arcade mode, but I could be wrong. I wouldn't mind them if they actually play differently. Oni Akuma could have Misogi for all I know. I'd actually love to see Evil Ryu be more brutal and aggressive to augment his savage appearance.

#34
Zarathos said on December 7, 2010 at 5:22 p.m.

er ... Oni isnt at all the same meaning as Akuma , for those saying it's the same thing .

The Oni is the classic japanese ogre . While a tad weird , the name Oni akuma can still work

#35
griever2000 said on December 7, 2010 at 5:25 p.m.

what dont they call it True Akuma ? like from 3s ?

#36
kirbykirbykirby said on December 7, 2010 at 5:26 p.m.

you guys don't understand capcoms hustle. if they give us charlie alex karin rolento and all those characters you want in AE who else are they going to put in sfxt? then you will all complain that its just characters taken from sfiv either way so its better saving some characters for the future and i bet after sf3 online we are going to get alpha 3 online as well and see who gets picked from sf 2, 3, 4 and alpha series.

#37
GrimmjawJin said on December 7, 2010 at 5:29 p.m.

Is this capcom's way of saying, these evil clones are "different" characters? How idiotic.

#38
Zarathos said on December 7, 2010 at 5:30 p.m.

I doubt they care as much as you say . For starters i bet none of those character will appears on sfxt .

The general public wont be asking for karin or rolento

It's the first of the serie and a clash of icons , so they'll pick the regular cast for both , and maybe , at 2-3 oddballs and new guys for each sides at best .

#39
damonte985 said on December 7, 2010 at 5:34 p.m.

I hope they are playable. who would not want to play with them?

#40
duds said on December 7, 2010 at 5:46 p.m.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/de...

MARN CONFIRMED EVIL RYU:

Posted by Marn on December 7, 2010 at 5 p.m. #105
Just one comment... I said Evil Ryu was in the game months ago. Right after I moved to California in June. I have my sources.

Go to comment 105 on the link above.

#41
SHOGUN said on December 7, 2010 at 6:05 p.m.

Maybe the only difference between these 2 to the regular Ryu and Akuma is that they have the escape air tatsu. Wouldn't that be lame? haha.

#42
Jaja said on December 7, 2010 at 6:08 p.m.

as awesome as these two are, I think we need an evil Dan.

#43
Ruiz said on December 7, 2010 at 6:16 p.m.

Purple Nurple Akuma and Red Rocket Ryu sound like appropriate names.

#44
f1ip said on December 7, 2010 at 6:33 p.m.

they shoulda put GOOD akuma not no more evil akuma

#45
BlankaBeast said on December 7, 2010 at 6:40 p.m.

#24 - What was the question again? lol

#46
H3XxMAjiN said on December 7, 2010 at 6:47 p.m.

super saiyan ryu and oozaru akuma

#47
H3XxMAjiN said on December 7, 2010 at 6:49 p.m.

i just notice akuma looks like blanka with white hair

#48
AeonGuardian said on December 7, 2010 at 6:50 p.m.

Hey, if they're going back to SFA3, they might bring back the 2v1 dramatic battles here! Or not.

Shin Akuma and Evil Ryu are probably no more than hidden bosses or hidden rival battles. Wonder how many hits their Raging Demon techniques will be

#49
Phynx said on December 7, 2010 at 6:55 p.m.

I'd prefer neither. It's a dumb concept.

#50
RoboBoomByYahh said on December 7, 2010 at 6:57 p.m.

Forget their name let's see them in action. They probably got the illest ultra combos in the game now.

#51
neon6 said on December 7, 2010 at 7:10 p.m.

Add all the shoto clones you want, Hakan and Dan were created specifically to beast on these super palette swaps.

#52
RoboBoomByYahh said on December 7, 2010 at 7:17 p.m.

Here is one name I do care about, "Sean". The last Shoto.

#53
Sektah84 said on December 7, 2010 at 7:22 p.m.

I don't care what people say or complain about im sure they are gonna look really cool and have cool looking supers and ultras! Did anyone complain about alpha 3 just curious? I thought that was the best street fighter IMO

#54
robococky said on December 7, 2010 at 7:23 p.m.

Oni Shin Tokido, that's the name of this character

#55
Oroku_Saki said on December 7, 2010 at 7:28 p.m.

Finally, the Dark Hadou has been duplicated by Shadow Geist. Maybe we'll get a dictator with Psycho Cannon again ^_^

/end joke mode

#56
6ixx said on December 7, 2010 at 7:33 p.m.

Well, the name doesn't really matter. I just wonder how the character is going to play. If it's a playable character, how would the balance interfere with the original versions.

I like the name Oni better than Shin. To me, Demon Akuma > True Akuma

#57
Crazy8 said on December 7, 2010 at 7:36 p.m.

Capcom retconned that Gouken has survived his battle with Akuma and is still alive. With Gouken alive then there's no point of Ryus quest to avenge his master. It's like if Darth Vader didn't really kill Obi wan Kenobi. So, Seth, how is Ryu going to turn to the dark side with Gouken alive?

#58
RandomJohn said on December 7, 2010 at 7:40 p.m.

Evil versions are always pointless and just for fun for a very short period. I remember when I activated Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma in CvS 2. I played them both for ONE day and never touched them ever since. I hardly doubt Capcom and the SF team will add something where it's going to last a few days. My guess is it's a new ultra for Ryu and Akuma where they activate to become evil with a timer, like Juri's U1.

#59
RoggingCamp said on December 7, 2010 at 8:01 p.m.

I'd honestly rather see some character that bridges Seth and Urien/Gill. If story is so important, explain why the hell Balrog is currently playing guide dog to some kid with a glow-in-the-dark Shadaloo sticker on his hand.

#60
R4HU1 said on December 7, 2010 at 8:04 p.m.

M. Akuma

#61
cheameup said on December 7, 2010 at 8:10 p.m.

if they are playable imagine how many evil ryus and oni akuma's will be online for the 1st week . you think you fight allot of ryu's now ?

hopefully they'll have worse stamina than seth and akuma now .the ultimate glass cannons

#62
Ex_Ein said on December 7, 2010 at 8:37 p.m.

I swear if I see a Red, White and Blue Basketball, I'm going to flip because I want to use Second Impact Sean again

So is Seth trying to tell us that he won't be the same character as in a powered up version of Ryu(aka why he's putting so much empathize on ryu being a product of his pure hearted ways)?

#63
sidechar said on December 7, 2010 at 8:40 p.m.

I just hope that they would play differently from the usual shoto movesets. I mean Gouken was a refreshing brake from all the fireballs, uppercuts and spinning kicks... If it's just making them faster and hit harder then, please, just don't bother...

That's just my opinion anyway...

#64
GodPride said on December 7, 2010 at 8:44 p.m.

@36

That Misogi move along with his Air Metsu Hadouken should have been given to the standard Akuma in the first place as an Ultra 2 combo and Super move respectively. I don't know why Capcom felt the need to include 2 useless Raging Demons when 1 suffice or that crappy Tazmania inspired Ultra move, when they could have used any one of his numerous existing Super moves. His Kongou Kukuretsu Zan comes to mind, in fact it's in the game, but this animation was wasted as his victory pose.

Anyway, his Air Metsu Hadouken could have worked as a super. A Super cancel to his Tatsumaki, like in MvC2, would have been sick. While his Misogi + KKZ could have been interesting as an Ultra 2 combo, keeping his Raging Demon intact as his Ultra1 combo. But alas Capcom suck.

Sooooosh. T.T 

#65
STA said on December 7, 2010 at 9:26 p.m.

I thought Oni's had horns on their heads...?

#66
allabouthonor said on December 7, 2010 at 9:30 p.m.

Sometimes, I just HATE Capcom, Seth K has got Ono in his brain, really wanted to know something and we get Lol trolled by Seth x/ WE WANT NEWS WE WANT NEWS :D

#67
bokosaki said on December 7, 2010 at 10:02 p.m.

I'm not interested in how it's named unless they bring out Rare Akuma. I know it's mugen character but... but it's rare!

#68
cvs said on December 7, 2010 at 10:11 p.m.

All this arguing over a name?

#69
Balloon said on December 7, 2010 at 10:21 p.m.

@Creeper:

I wanted to make a comment about this, but I can't think of a better way to put it than you did.

#70
ibLeo said on December 7, 2010 at 11:10 p.m.

I take it Ryu changes his name to some demon title when he goes evil, like the way Gouki changed his name to Akuma (demon), and now Oni (ogre-demon). Ryu will probably be something like Majin or similar.

#71
AcidGlow said on December 7, 2010 at 11:53 p.m.

I wonder if this Akuma will have hard hitting attacks like Gouken since they have similar builds from the achievement list leak.

#72
smashfury said on December 8, 2010 at 12:17 a.m.

i am totally maining evil el fuerte

#73
RyuHado said on December 8, 2010 at 12:21 a.m.

Man i had ENOUGH with all you f@ckin liars! All day i see comments saying "if they are playable imagine how many evil ryus and oni akuma's will be online for the 1st week .
You think you fight allot of ryu's now?"

DAMN! What a B!TCH! So you basically want people NOT to choose there favourite character because your a CRYING F@ckin B@tch!! Its there game! There choose! Get a f@ckin life loser and all of you that thinks the same way!! What is this sh!t?? Telling people who to choose?!!!! And why not be happy about E.Ryu and Oni Akuna??

Im a PROUD SF fan that read the mangas and i saw all SF animes. I love SF storyline and cant wait to see what E.Ryu and O.Akuma will offer in the game. Just because you no-life scrubs dont like em no-one gives you the right to bash them around. You faggs kill the community.

A true SF fan, gamer, would be happy of the addition of every character.
GET A F@CKIN LIFE LOSERS. In the end of the day, its a game NOT ONLY FOR YOU but for EVERYONE!

#74
JIHADJOE said on December 8, 2010 at 12:22 a.m.

We need Tengu Gouken!

#75
hashimoto said on December 8, 2010 at 12:23 a.m.

Great...more shotos is exactly what we needed

#76
Troppop said on December 8, 2010 at 2:09 a.m.

Haven't we already gone through this ridiculous topic of "Wanting new characters" in previous blogposts?

First, if I am to repeat myself as well: Stop whining for new characters if you don't even play the lots of fighters already in the game!

Secondly, alot of people don't seem to understand the post at all. the SF-staff has their level of trolling answers but what alot of people seem to miss, is that he actually has some truth in his post. Evil Ryu is not the same as Ryu. To copy his comparison, is Darth Vader really anything like Anakin Skywalker? (Yes, they are the same, SPOILER!...)

Third, Is it just me being mean here or do people actually see shotos as a threat? It's not like sf2 where you can lock out people. Shotos are Ultra punishable by alot of characters, almost full screen, it lets you charge ultra faster (Absorb shots) etc.

So stop whining and actually play the game, to it's full extent instead of going half-assed for a character and cry out because you can't get around a damn shot.
You lot that whine about shotos and new characters, I find no reason what so ever to your reasoning. Once again, it's just stupid, immature and very very greedy.

#77
Megadautilus said on December 8, 2010 at 2:25 a.m.

It's Shin Akuma and Evil Ryu. They redesigned them to differentiate from there alternates and colors.

#78
AcidGlow said on December 8, 2010 at 4:02 a.m.

They better give him the Misogi or no buy from me.

#79
SonicShot said on December 8, 2010 at 6:02 a.m.

Reminds me of oni from Muscle Bomber Duo. Who Remembers that game? Also Known as slam masters! Which also adds, I think Scorp would be awesome for MvC3

#80
Shep131 said on December 8, 2010 at 7:39 a.m.

Uberdeath Akuma III

#81
Kimmy_13 said on December 8, 2010 at 7:47 a.m.

OdinReborn You so stupid you know capcom could of been play testing these two for months and ya know just not told us. Just because they've been annoced now does not mean they've just been put in the game. So there is every chance they are playable

#82
WASSHOI said on December 8, 2010 at 10:22 a.m.

@#4
>I don't know where Oni even came from, but it's not as appealing.

Oni are kinda like Japanese demons. Akuma obviously looks more demonic than human in this, so calling him Oni Akuma isn't like some kind of bizarre word someone slapped on because they thought it was cool. He really does look like a demon.

#83
RocketGruntMark said on December 8, 2010 at 12:48 p.m.

FIRST!

#84
omegax9000 said on December 8, 2010 at 1:49 p.m.

more evil ssj4 bison

#85
mr_e said on December 8, 2010 at 7:40 p.m.

Meh, they were cool...when I was like 15 lol. What's next...Fatter Honda? Lol. In any case, we'll see how this plays out. Whether they're playable or not, all I'm interested are the changes for my characters.

#86
imTatsu said on December 8, 2010 at 11:19 p.m.

Oni Akuma is what i order at Sushi Bars.

#87
RoggingCamp said on December 9, 2010 at 12:51 a.m.

I want Anorexic Rufus.

#88
AcidGlow said on December 9, 2010 at 4:19 a.m.

No point in adding characters people won't use....
I wanna see their Ultras =)

#89
SSJDante said on December 9, 2010 at 5:27 a.m.

capcom betta not screw up shin akuma callin him oni akuma is already playin with him grrrr and they bluddy well better give shin akuma his MISOGI super special from capvsnk 2 and if possible his KONGOU ZAN super special art from sf3 if they dont i wont be impressd. 2be honest i kant see how they will implement evil ryus moves here because as we already know gouken has arose from the dead and now has EVIL ryu's DENJIN HADOKEN and akuma has the Black out so it looks like evil ryu is goin to have a new set of ultra's grrr

#90
NazAlam28 said on December 13, 2010 at 8:12 a.m.

oooohh yeehhhh!! Long awaited characters!!! Oni/Shin Akuma and Evil Ryu in the new pack!!! Perfect timing! Now the clash between Street Fighter and Tekken should be good!
Cant wait to play the new characters! Yun and Yang look SSSICK!! Although they couldave added a few more characters to the scene, like Rolento, Karin, alex or maybe even the EX plus characters, like skullomania or garuda...but still theres time for all that

the new evil ryu combos must be crazy!!

#91


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