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Why would they not be playable? All the work to create them and not use them? lol. unlikely. Plus, there's a larger demand for them to be playable then not.
I just wish I knew Japanese.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
It's got to be just bosses. that would be ridiculous if They are playable. Well I guess there are no more characters other than Yun and Yang. I don't mind those guys. they seem fun to play yet we have no idea if it's coming to consoles anyway as the arcade scene is non existent in the US.
As long as they aren't playable I don't care. If they are I hate this.
The best part about it is that when they announced months ago they'd be adding characters to AE edition, people were joking that "it's probably just Evil Ryu, Oni Akuma and Violent Ken". Those guys made me laugh back then... and now, thinking back, they just make me want to cry. Good think so many other good fighters are coming in the next few months!
If these guys end up playable what a way to take the lazy road capcom
Capcom did an amazing communication job with Arcade Edition. Never before people were as hyped about the release of just a follow up arcade game. The rumors about the new characters and changes, everything worked flawlessly.
2 characters were added to please the hardcore fans, who played Street Fighter 3, and now 2 new characters that appeal mostly to casual players are announced / teased. This brilliant in terms of communication. Capcom gave the pros what they wanted, but the also what the casual wanted. This is the way they will sell tons of DLC on consoles. No casual players care about Yun and Yang, but Evil Ryu and Bad ass Akuma will sell like candy.
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How can you blame them? Their are so many characters that are different, and two of the characters that are selected are literally characters that are already in the game. It won't surprise me if people lose interest in AE quick.
This upsets me. I'm usually never THAT GUY who complains about DLC, but come on. We already have 6 shoto characters! Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to add two more (different variations of characters we already have, I might add) instead of some of the Alpha or Third Strike characters!?!
Well, I guess it kind of makes sense. You play online, and pretty much every other fight is against a Ryu. A Ryu with a black gi, because the player thinks it makes them bad ass. So those people are the ones who will play as Evil Ryu, which is a lot of people. Still, I would rather have Sodom, Twelve, Q, or Rolento.
Jeez, I'd rather them add crap characters than no characters at all; it ain't all that bad really. I'd love to play as Smurf Akuma...I mean Shin Akuma...I mean Oni Akuma.
Haha.. i actually think its cool they added them.. get to see em in now graphics. and if they are playable just get ready for alot of noobs hahaha! wit yea is kinda cheap.. but i main Akuma so im pretty stoked.. maybe only shin akuma and evil ryu will be played and oni akuma will be boss char only?? But what bout shin gouken?
Too many haters on this board.
I'm actually really excited to see what they do with these new characters.
If you guys don't like them, don't use them.
If they weren't in the game their still wouldn't be anyone else. Be happy we got them over nobody.
these might not be playable XD just new final boss battles. (i hope) lets hope we get Alex and Oro XD
There are gonna be more characters before it comes to the US. You guys are complaining about a game your not gonna play on the arcades and that is a long way out.
Those characters are cool but i hope that you can only use them offline.
Lame, lame, lame, lame, LAME. Lame. Did I mention LAME?
So not only did they dissapoint with a mere two characters of Yun and Yang, but they follow up with an anti-climactic duo of whatever the modern 3D equivilent of a pallete-swapped character is.
CAPCOM obviously didn't fund this properly. Give us some REAL new characters, please.
One new model (Yun/Yang) for four new characters is looking more like the cheapest/fastest way to create content than the much talked about "listening to the community". They could still fix this with Rolento though.
Anyway I don't get how they could make evil ryu and shin akuma playable without messing up the balance: just make them bosses, give ryu a teleport and akuma his third strike super thingy. And anounce the console dates/prices already.
so lame, evil ryu and oni akuma
sure theyr fun but come on, out of all characters those 2, total lameness
give us unique characters, rolento karin urien alex or someone unique classic
this is just not mind blowing or exiting
they where probably to fcking lazy to create characters from scratch, retarted scrubcom
i honestly thought capcom would wait to use these two for cvs3 (if it ever comes out)
Ryu and Akuma? Way to think outside of the box Capcom...
And people say your originality has waned...
Dead Rising is nothing like Resident Evil...
and MvC3 is nothing like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom. BTW nice job combining GGXXs RomanCancel in SSF4 and MvC3 Not to mention Samuurai Showdown's Rage Meter system, that fills as you take damage for more power.
Parry in a fighting game was ALL NEW now Capcom has to steal others. SHAME!
Almost all I see here is whine whine and unexplainable nerdwhine.
To say that Capcom are "gay" "lame" "retarded" or whatever to add these 2 are just, well, stupid. Do you see alot of Vega in game? Do you see alot of Fei Long in game? Alot of Sakura? Or anyone from the new cast (meaning the "Super" cast) that people actually play? People whine and complain for new characters when there already are alot which no ones even touch but rather stick with the mainstream of characters, Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Sagat, Chun-li etc.
And what's to dislike about shotos? they may have it easier to combo, but they are usually easy to counter as well.
Imo, it's just greedy, immature and not respective to the producers.
If their playable which i doubt,thin it take a lot of skill to use them cause 500 hit points is not a lot lol.
OMG IM SO ANGRY THEY WERE ADDED IN AND NOT ANYONE ELSE ARRRGGGGHH THEY SUCK IM INRAGGEDD! lol jk.idc that they were added in,they were in previous games,so hey why not,have a feeling there playable though,no need to complain,even if there are playable they wont be tourney legal so no big deal.
Actually, I don't think Evil Ryu took anyone's spot because they probably already had him made for Street Fighter x Tekken:
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I know those are CLASSIC characters from Alpha series (not only), and they are EASY to MAKE - they're just slightly altered versions of regular Ryu and Akuma...
However, is it reasonable to include them? 2 characters that maight be TRICKY to BALANCE (unless they are arcade mode only... or have 600-700 life for online). Alpha times were DIFFERENT and things that were cool in Alpha might be UNNECESSARY for AE.
I guess it's mostly aimed at CASUAL players - those who want to mash out few more Hadoukens. Ryu is such a popular character that making another version of him is an OBVIOUS SUCCESS (unlike making characters that are UNIQUE, but nobody will use them (unless they're top tier... maybe)).
Personally, I would just stick to LESS CHARACTERS, but put MORE WORK into each of them. By the time you reach as many as in SSF4 I wouldn't even botter adding more. I would just work with the current ones - making sure everything works well, adding some cool stuff (like 2nd supers), improving visuals (some ultras, stages), and working on details.
NO Urien NO ALEX !!!??? NO NEW STAGE ???!!!
I do not buy anything
F@CK all you motherf@kin losers! E.Ryu is way too popular not only to you "self-proclaim pros" but to every SF fan. Oni Akuma will be the sh/t! Finally Capcom put in some REAL Street Fighters! Who LIVE for the fight. That LOOK LIKE FIGHTERS - BAD @SS FIGHTERS! But nooooooo! you f@ggs still cry all f@ckin day! And you call yourselfs "Fans". Go killyourselfs pu@@ies! Have you ever thought that many people want this characters? that you DONT HAVE to play with them if you dont like them?? honestly what lowlife nerds some "people" are. At least I wont complain for a single character because I AM a true SF fan and i wont complain. Sure i think Ruffus was and still is the worst character ever but you wont see me bad mouthing Ruffus because i know theres players out there that like him and i respect that. SO, to all SHOTO'S HATERS out there here's a present from me .!.
Long Live The Dark Hado
maybe.... and i'm just spitballing here,..... evil ryu and eviler akuma will just show up as ENEMYS.
u know, if u get all perfects or something, then they'll teleport out and Rage Demon Seth and then kill you.
Like Ryu, Ken, Seth, Gouken, Akuma, Dan, Sakura, Sagat isn't enough Shotos? Yeah let's add two more! I know! The Evil version of the most noob overused character in the game! They'll probably like him! And by the way, let's add more projectiles: Ibuki, Chun-li, Dhalsim, Dee Jay, Guile, Rose... And Blanka is a projectile himself. Good for players that use Dudley, they have ducking. Why couldn't they add someone like Q, Oro or just someone from Other SF games, don't need another Ryu and Akuma.....
Marketing department at its best. They chose the safest characters that the mainstream audience will want to play & two others to satisfy the 3S players all while building hype for an arcade game.
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Altough a very good proposal, it's also a very naïve marketing plan. Because todays market is not just about those hardcore fans, it's about dragging in the casual ones.
Now, I'm not really into the "real" story behind all characters and their actual power in respective forms. But, what makes people think that these 2 won't be playable? Or to be some kind of invincible characters?
It's not like Seth is a invincible character nor Gouken, one of em is actually quite "bad" (Altough i play him...)
And about the actual play. Most likely, their hit points will be lower then average, since they will most likely be focused on offense much like Sakura or Akuma (regular). But just because they are "evolved" versions doesn't mean that they will retain their old data and have things added and boosts on top of it. Ryu for example, doesn't he basically become a different person in his "Evil" form? meaning, wouldn't it be possible for him to get almost a whole new set of moves? still having versions of his normal moves ofc.
Same with Akuma?
HA. why so much hate on shotos? What a bunch of crybabys.
The only people that complain about shotos are the ones that get beat by them.
Also, I'm gonna drop akuma and main Shin Akuma(if he's playable)
ShinAkuma probably won't have the double roundhouse kicks, they're just too good.
As long as he has an Air fireball ultra, i'll be happy.
Evil Ryu,Here comes my favourite character ..others don't cry,logic says there are even more to be announced..i still want karin hea..
i hope they are playable...that "shin" akuma and gouken from super were not different just that akuma shot 2 air fireballs without EX and gouken shot 2 of them too n stuff...if they took akuma and ryu models and changed their look a bit more than just red eyes or something they will come out great..and all you people whining it's because you already have problems with normal ryu and akuma and wont survive against their evil versions...anyways i want them to be playable but i only see 37 spots on that move list so i guess they won't be playable
always this fu***d evil Ryu !!!
for once could put
Violent Ken
whereas it appeared only on Neo Geo
How every time I look at how the arcade scene is there... I wish it were here as well... I always went to the arcade but never got to play much. Now that I am learning fight stick... I really hope in time the arcade scene here can come back.. I would like to actually be a part of it instead of being on the sidelines this time.
UNCOOL! Where is NEW CHARACTERS/STAGES! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so they gonna add 2 overpowered broken godlike godtier shoto, fck this sh*t!
instead of adding 2 more shoto on the roster, which btw are just recycled characters, why not add a more unique characters... elena, rolento, urien, karin, etc.
i bet u if this sh!t comes out on the consoles a lot of scrubs will be using them!
so i say this... fck the evil dark side version, fck u to all of the evil dark side dick sucking fags riders out there specially here in eventscrubs, and fck capcom!
But I mean they seem to make both work... I am sure when SFIV was out... they not only played console for online competitive play but arcade for tournaments and so on. I think overall we as people just have different logic. It may be just be but it just makes me think that they take the game a bit more seriously there than most people here. Now I am not saying that for the majority.. because I know there are those here who live and breathe the game here.
The trailer says 37 characters. There are also 37 movelists on the cards. Oni Akuma and Evil Ryu probably aren't playable. SSF4AE is just the arcade port of SSF4. Capcom said they didn't plan on extending the series past Super so why would. I don't get why people thought AE would add a lot.
PLEASE DON"T THINK I"M TROLLING!
SOMEONE ZOOM IN ON THE INSTRUCTION MANUAL!!!
I'm not saying I see something definitely, but if you zoom in you can kind of make out some weird looking faces, like the bottom left of the very last row and the middle of the last row in the middle next to the large yellow thing which is also suspicious.
If anybody is good with images like this, please inspect closer.
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Haha, Thanks then xD /blush
Just remembered something here...
Wasn't SF4 originally intended as a anniversary game for SF2?
God knows how many versions and who are actually in them, but haven't they covered just about everyone and even added more?
While I'll personally think it would be sweet with Evil Ryu/Oni Akuma, I'd still feel kinda 'meh' if no other new characters are in the game. Considering the big cast and the many requests for characters like Rolento and Karin, it'd be a shame not to see them in the game.
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