Actually that isn't Makoto hitbox weirdness it's more like Rufus hitbox weirdness.
Wow, you re-recorded it, and don't even give credit to the guy who found it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A-Fg7... original video
who says EH staff doesn't troll SRK forums looking for material?
I didn't know this came from someone else. Bregernan emailed it in to me and told me how to do it and asked me to post it. I've just credited Candiasis333 in the story.
There's no way in heck I could check every place on the internet when someone sends me a tip to see if it's been posted before, but if someone points it out that they were the one who broke this info, I am more than happy to provide credit where it's due, as I've done here.
Everyone knows it's real hard to google Makoto teleport.
I know it's hard to spend more than 3 seconds searching, you think you could make it all the way to the third result, which is a youtube video uploaded 14 hours before yours?
But spending more than a minute checking out your tip would be professional, we all know you're not one for that.
Who exactly is stealing who's content when a story that appears on this site first shows up hours before it does on SRK? It's not like this is new territory either, SRK always posts their news right after they read it off EH and usually an hour or two or sometimes even days later.
Troll commenters are trolls.
Silly SRK stealing stories from their own forums and properly giving credit.
People getting mad about who gets the credit make me lol.
Truth is, Makoto sucks. People are going to watch this, think "Hmmmm, this is pretty cool," wait 18 seconds later, forget about it and move on with their lives.
@joker101
I lol'd when I saw your comment for the first time after posting mine.
Truth is... It's the truth.
@Struggs
Nice read on that overhead and punishing it with a SRK>FADC>Ultra.
i noticed it alot too. srk steals so much from eventhubs and never credits them for anything. you just see the some stories that go up here go up on srk a ways after wards. sure makes reporting the news easy doesnt it?
Way to miss the point Struggs, way to be an idiot Struggs, way to not get your information straight before you post Struggs.
I don't care about SRK. Google search Makoto teleport, and you can find the video posted 14 hours before Eventhubs' video. Doesn't give credit, and won't spend a minute researching it.
Haters gonna hate. Go back to SRK with the rest of the flamers
Yeah. About that.
Facts
Candeisis posted the video 14 hours before Eventhubs
Catalyst got a "tip" and spent all of five seconds searching for the original source.
You still think I'm trying to say Eventhubs stole from SRK, I'm not. Eventhubs stole from Candeisis. Because Catalyst is an awful editor and the reason nobody likes him is for exactly these kind of reasons. The fact that you can find the source with something as simple as a google search proves that he didn't spend any time trying to find the original source. I'm even giving him the benefit of the doubt that he really did receive a tip that made no mention of the source.
Next time on the nobusiness show:
nobusiness walks into a news studio to tell them they stole their news from another local news station.
@nobusiness
"nobody likes him" - referring to Catalyst
I happen to like him, as well as his work in the Street Fighter community. I also like SRK and iplaywinner, but the point is that, well, you're wrong. I am somebody, therefore it is not true that "nobody" likes him.
As for the video, has anyone tried replicating this with other characters? I wonder if Rufus' dive kick or Cammy's Cannon Strike Dive Kick would cause the same thing.
You can replicate it with other characters. It's not really useful anyway.
Why would you take the time to make a screen name on eventhubs if you dislike the content? The news tips revolves around the event hubs community sending tips, not catalyst so I don't know what your problem is. Catalyst had he approached you like he would in person, like a gentleman and corrected you that's fine, but he's insulted you and your work, so on those grounds he should be deleted. We should all be curteous, haters should not get a free pass.
Hey..did you see that Video of makoto and her teleport overhead kick...I know I did. Neeeext!
Wow so much heated discussion over one video? Would it really matter where it is posted? Just the fact that eventually people would hear about it whether it be here or somewhere else? Catalyst is human just like the rest of us.. Just like everything on this planet... Always room for improvement but forever flawed. He seemed to own up to his mistakes when called out but honestly.. Why continue kicking someone when they are down. I am not one to try and start conflicts but you could at least just back off the guy that took the time to even put this video and countless other info onto the site for others to see...
At the end of the day... Does it really matter who posted one first? Just as long as the info is out for all others to view/read then that is a win/loss for everyone. Honestly... I could care less "IF" all the info here was copy and pasted from other sites... This was the site I found first when I wanted to learn and improve on my street fighter gameplay. And I know that this site has its share of heated topics and the everyday "troll".. Lol have no idea if I used that word correctly.. Still getting use to the lingo here.. But then again when you look at it... There are the trolls here... and I am pretty sure there are just as many trolls at SRK.. if not more. I have never dedicated as much time there as I have here so do not hold me to that..
Regardless of what... Thank you Catalyst for providing this information amongst many others in the past.. I honestly do not care if you discovered it first or if you copy/paste... Just keep up the good work and keep those of us who do not make a big deal about original source... Updated in the fighting game community.
That just reminds me when I was playing someone online, the guy was Sagat and I was Makoto. Well he performed Tiger Cannon, I simply jumped over it and performed Seichusen-Godanzuki (Ultra 1), after the initial animation I teleported through Sagat.
So I'm not even surprised with this video. I need to record that video of mine.
Thing is people will present information as there own as far as anyone knows he came across this bug himself naturally and mailed cat about it.
It's clear someone is concerned by the rise of eventhubs rise. Remember this though srks front page was the same for months until they noticed what eh was doing. Competition is win for everyone.
Ive never really seen something like bugs and glitches as the property of someone who has happened across them just seems dumb to me.
I think it's really sad that the Street Fighter community, or part of it, has come to flame war between different sources. People really need to mature and get over all these petty issues.
Shame this is completely and totally useless, as no Rufus (not even the complete crappy ones) are gonna wake up with a cr. HP. For that reason alone, I don't see why all the arguing about credit is going on. I mean, I don't wanna sound like a combo video troll and "blah blah, not practical, blah blah", but this isn't even interesting to watch.
It's not a cool instance, it's not helpful in anyway, nor does it change anything. It's just some random thing. Yeah crediting sources should be done, but if someone quotes you for using the word "the" in a sentence, why should you give a damn?
...Unless someone can reproduce in another situation where it works?
Other moves have weird "teleport" properties like that too. If you do Sagat's U2 in the corner while facing away from it, certain moves from your opponent will cause them to teleport through Sagat.
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkXJzN...
I was taking Gouken to 1000 BP for the achievement and I walked toward a Sagat figuring he would either DP or Ultra on wake up. The rest you can see in the video. Didn't end so well for me, haha.
i just visited SRK for the first time ever and didn't like it they seem so full of them selves... just listen to this regarding the makoto teleport
"This hitbox oddity was discovered here on Shoryuken.com by community member candeisis. When Makoto Axe Kicks behind a cornered Rufus doing his crouching hard punch, the resulting collision of invisible boxes will force Makoto back out of the corner in what looks like a teleport. The video below, also by candeisis, shows this in action. ..."
this was posted at 8:55 pm 12-1-10 BTW...it is a different video though :/
Im not civil and reasonable after i get my account banned for nothing. So catalyst steals the concept, uploads it and tries to pass it off as his own. Then deletes my account for making a disappointed post even tho i concluded it by going oh well at least i am getting the credit now (even tho im not rly, he words it subtly to sounds liek i tipped him or whatever).
So whats civil and reasonable about that? He can expect to be treated the way hes treating others. Didn't his mother ever teach him about biting the hand that feeds, he shoudl realise how many $$ he might lose if he keeps acting like a dick to the grass roots of the community. If he was a smart businessman he wouldnt transform EH into a complete pariah, but his repeated offenses keep doing so.
Hey cat..ignore the trolls and ban their acc..fans will stay and haters gonna f**k off..!
Catalyst is the man..!
How ive contributed a tonne to the makoto forums bro, its not about this gimmick its about the philosophy EH has with content. For example all the frame data on this site is taken from the srk wiki, which was all translated pretty much alone by gilley, yet not one word of thanks or recognition. Its a culture like this EH has fostered, and if ppl dotn call them out it will continue. Catalyst only has to make a few changes and it would be fine, yet he continues his questionable conduct....
Yes candiasis along with u..this retard guy is crying like he have discoverd cure for aids..
I got two words for ya
F**k off
(kakkarot and the spanish ninja high-five one another) lol
It's totally fine if you make comments disagreeing with me or the site and pointing out the things you think are wrong, and those comments will be left alone.
Blatant trolling, making completely negative statements without any regard to facts, being a jerk and insulting people will get you banned, each and every time.
The people and posts that were banned fell into these later categories. You can argue they were for other reasons all you want, but it's simply not the case and the people who have made their cases here in a reasonable and respectable way have had their accounts and comments left alone.
Those who haven't — aren't welcome to stick around. If you want to troll and be a jerk, please do it else where.
And listen u 2 year old kid "candiasis" frame data is not a property of srk..it is of game itself and cat and srk itself could have taken from somewhere else eg- prima guide and any other so just keep quiet..!
what defines trolling? anyone who sides with candiasis?
As far as the frame data goes, Gilley, Yeb and DannyCat all gave me permission to use it and they were the people who compiled it. So the frame data claims are crap. But, I've explained this before.
Again, if you look at the frame data pages, you'll see those people are credited.
i think catalyst needs to take a breather and drink some coffee.
Is it just me who can now see candiasis333 at top of story..how else u want credit man..!
@dhz
at ur point 3..i will be glad if cat delete my other comments too if someone is happy by it..!
I liked Eventhubs and all, but... well, you've now know of the original video that the tip comes from, and by all means, it shows the crazy teleporty thing a bit better so... why not credit this Candiasis fella and switch to his video? Then you're getting him some views, and everything is fine for everyone. It'll be a shame that you wasted your time making this video from a lame tip, but it should stop the crying.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/no...
The way you posted your sources in that article was perfect. Why can't you do that all the time?
It's just odd that you have to be told to do that. I mean, a lot of people online just know instinctually to do that.
Even odder is that you're more willing to say who tipped you to the story than link to the original source!
I'm not trying to break your balls man because obviously I like coming here and getting my news here but after Maj posted that article it's hard to ignore.
Cannot unsee, man. Cannot unsee.
The thing that some troll is creating accounts to troll creeps me out. Why the need to take down or bad mouth EH?
I don't even care about the sources, this is the place where I get my news and don't have a clear reason to look elsewhere. Even like the trolling comments. Haters will always hate, just let it be Catalyst.
@Utils
Why can't he do everytime, why should he this is just a hobby for him, if he was getting paid, if this was his full time job then by all means, you may have a point.
This site is cool nice and simple for general information of SF. Just leave it at that if you don't like the site, why even come here.
Hey guys, I had to sign up and comment since normally I just lurk.
I must say that I love EH and SRK. I believe most of the community feels the same.
I truly do not believe Catalyst was being mean spirited with this post. It is 16 secs of a glitch.
What seems to have happened is Bregernan TOLD Catalyst about this glitch. Catalyst replicated it and recorded it and thought it was cool to post. Then after the comment section arguments he saw or heard of the original source.
@Catalyst
What I believe is fair and what could make everyone happy from such a simple oversight, Catalyst, is to keep your recorded video then add below Candiasis's video below yours.
/Catalyst
It is clear that both video's are different. One is 16 secs and the other is 7secs. Both will share in the view count as if everyone is like me, I personally watch every video of any post I'm interested in. Especially if only 23 secs of my life is at stake...
Much love to Catalyst, Candiasis, and even Maj...
The community hasn't seen this much love and growth since I was a kid. Let's not spoil it with pettiness.
(Catalyst is an OG, please take your trolling elsewhere.
BTW I've never seen Catalyst post so much in a thread o-0...maybe take 79's advice?)
I luv eventhubs, been coming ever since HD Remix for adv. combo training.
Cat. is doing a DARN fine job with a the hours and days he puts into this site, I have seen it mature rather nicely these past 2 some odd years. I still remember the "here is a HEALTHY GRAB" tag lines he used (I think it was Catalyst) to intro a story/article... lol good ol' times.
Anyways my point is that there are probably thousands of article in this web sites archive, and there is bound to be a mistake somewhere. But never is it malicious or intentional on CAt's part, and it's not just clear to me but to the whole Eventhubs community.
IN short, errors will happen.... And if you (caradinsess I think) or anyone else is not happy with every single mistake being rectified in the whole amount of ONE sec of posting, well go make your own website and contribute to the community in your way.
CAt. keep up the good work,
Scary