For the pad users out there, does this seem like something that would be useful to you, or are other offerings much more suited to your tastes? Leave a comment with your thoughts below.
Posted by BlackHart on August 31, 2010 at 3:04 p.m. #1
what if you do a quarter circle forward, and the damn d-pad spins???
Posted by blacksquid on August 31, 2010 at 3:07 p.m. #2
That 65$ would be better invested in a Madcatz TE... PS pads > ∞
Posted by chunli_rules on August 31, 2010 at 3:08 p.m. #3
If people still can't use the control, consider getting a arcade stick :)
Posted by artfx80 on August 31, 2010 at 3:10 p.m. #4
hell yeah,finally i can finish up my trials easier i tried to use the arcade stick but i just couldnt adapt to it,im to used to playing with the controller ill pay for this..
Posted by KingBoxChamp on August 31, 2010 at 3:11 p.m. #5
Yeah this wont change anything for fighting games on xbox, or any game on xbox for that matter no one plays with the d pad on xbox controller. But for fighting games just get arcade sticks.
Posted by omegax9000 on August 31, 2010 at 3:11 p.m. #6
a$$hole forgot to mention this!!!
http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/pl...
Posted by zUkUu on August 31, 2010 at 3:13 p.m. #7
btw catalyst, could you write up some summary in the future about the work on eventhubs? I'm curious how many ppl are behind it, how many mails you get per day, where you recive your normal infos from, who decides what goes news or which are the criterias for it, how many time you spend working on it each day etc etc
would be cool to see such a news ^^
Posted by ShaftyCakes on August 31, 2010 at 3:21 p.m. #8
Just get an Arcade Stick >_>
Posted by samuraix025 on August 31, 2010 at 3:23 p.m. #9
I'd rather just use a fight pad its cheaper and all 6 buttons are in the face. its a cool idea though. my question is why not keep it the "fighting mode" and sell it like that, whats the use for the other way?
Posted by Arrancar on August 31, 2010 at 3:25 p.m. #10
Finally mircosoft makes a new D-Pad for fighting games!?! the world is coming to an end.. #8 has is right plz read. ^___^
Posted by FigD on August 31, 2010 at 3:31 p.m. #11
It should be noted that the new pad comes packaged with a Play and Charge Kit. So its not just the pad for $65.
My pad is from my launch console and is showing signs of where so I'll probably pick it up. Not for fighting games, I've got a TE for that, but it would be nice to have a proper D-Pad for some XBLA stuff like Megaman 9/10.
My issue is that the walls of the D-Pad well still look high enough that the edges of the pad will hit the wall before pressing down all the way. This was one of the issues with the old D-Pad (and reason for the Pringles top mods), so I hope this isn't the case.
Posted by TheShotokan on August 31, 2010 at 3:34 p.m. #12
I gotta say, i am by no means a fan of microsoft they're losing the console race (opinion) by far. They have no web browser, batteries needed for cntrl, online costs every year, no download of YT, and movies straight to system, no video uploader, and lack of accessories. Pheew, so besides that cntrl still being stupid fat, its a pretty slick design, sony should make something similar, but far better to keep beating Xbox @ almost everything. That is all.
Posted by alfarin on August 31, 2010 at 3:35 p.m. #13
...Or just get an S.E stick for the same price.
Yeah.... Didn't think that entirely through did you?
Posted by Catalyst on August 31, 2010 at 3:38 p.m. #14
@FigD
Added a note about the Play and Charge Kit, my bad, should have been in there.
Posted by FroggyMan77 on August 31, 2010 at 3:41 p.m. #15
I don't use an XBox, so this doesn't effect me either way. I suppose it's a step in the right direction, but the location of the D-Pad still irks me. I never liked it at the bottom.
Posted by Princz15 on August 31, 2010 at 3:42 p.m. #16
Ill stick to my DS3 thank you very much
P.S. Your controller still sucks microsoft
oh and i would get this over that anyday
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/Produ...
Posted by GhostTear on August 31, 2010 at 3:42 p.m. #17
Why didnt they do this before? The controller looks sick. Nuff said.
Posted by Triforce on August 31, 2010 at 3:43 p.m. #18
Pad-warrior here.
Personally I'd stick to the HORI/Madcatz ones (even though I've messed up my Dpad a bit on the Hori-it'll move itself once in awhile). Even with this "addition" the button layout doesn't quite feel comfortable. FADC will always be easier to me on the Hori compared to retail 360.
It's cool they have us in mind though-I just have a feeling there's going to be a whole new batch of frustration with the pad always going back down involuntarily.
Posted by Caj814 on August 31, 2010 at 3:53 p.m. #19
That $65+ is better invested into a Madcatz TE Stick when they go on sale for $99 during big gaming events.There should be some more companies stepping up to make decent pads though.Why hasn't someone literally take the Sega Saturn controller mold and use that for a 360 controller?
Posted by n00b_saib0t on August 31, 2010 at 3:54 p.m. #20
@theshotokan
you're focusing on all the wrong aspects of a console (aside from RROD, thats a big flaw). i have both systems, and i can honestly say i prefer the 360.
first of all, the 360 was out well before bluray was and its a sony thing. you're a couple different kinds of stupid if you think its gonna be included. second, it doesnt effect the games at all.
youtube and a web browser? who freaking cares? it doesnt effect the games at all.
the controller takes batteries? some do. the console comes with a battery pack and charging cable FFS.
as for XBL costing money, you get what you pay for. PSN online play is pure trash. XBL online is much less lagtastic and i've never had problems finding a game there either.
youre just a sony fanboy, cut the crap. the PS3 does a lot of things right, but the 360 is just better. if it wasnt for RROD, it would be hands down the better system. i just have a PS3 for the exclusive games.
Posted by Catalyst on August 31, 2010 at 3:56 p.m. #21
@zUkUu
That isn't quite something I could do a news story on, but definitely works as a comment response.
1) As far as the future of the site goes, I can't get into too many details yet, but I will say there's some exciting stuff coming. One thing coming VERY soon.
2) Right now, it's only me working on the site, although I get a ton of contributions from the community. When I first started I had some friends and family helping, but they dropped off a ways into the project.
3) I get about twenty emails a day, on average.
4) I have a number of resources I check for news. Twitter, forums, other websites, comments, etc. I pretty much try to check any where and every where that I think will have good information. Also, I do some in-house stories depending on trends or interesting things I see in the community.
5) The criteria for which stories are posted is really difficult to explain. There are so many things I look at when deciding if I'll post something, but the two most important things are quality and interest factor. If something is good quality and I think interesting to the community at large, I'll more than likely post it. But, there are A LOT of other factors.
6) As far as time spent on the site... A TON. I don't keep track of the hours I spend working on it, but besides time spent with my son, girlfriend and family... with occasional breaks to play fighting games... pretty much all of the rest of the time I'm on EventHubs. I've made a personal commitment to make this site the absolute best resource for Capcom fighting games, and I'm still trying to make sure that's the case. So, I end up spending a lot of time working on things, but I don't get burnt out because I enjoy it.
Hope that answers everything, but let me know if you have more questions.
Posted by Sh3azu on August 31, 2010 at 4 p.m. #22
#22
Your a hypocrite babes.
Posted by GerarRv on August 31, 2010 at 4:07 p.m. #23
Wow. Another sucking controller?
Let's be honest guys. Arcade Stick > DualShock 3 > 360 Controller so far, in this gen.
Posted by Moguaiz on August 31, 2010 at 4:11 p.m. #24
I'm not a frequent comment poster, but I've been lurking on this site for ages.
Thanks for your commitment, and hard work, Catalyst.
I feel you barely get enough recognition as it is, no matter how much "lol you stole news from site X" or whatever comments you sometimes get, thanks for keeping us up to date.
Posted by BisonBetterBeGoodInSSF4 on August 31, 2010 at 4:33 p.m. #25
it still wont be as confortable as the PS3 pad (not starting a war here just stating the obvious). take a look at the PS3 pad. the D-pad is not connected from the middle whereas the 360 is. it will still be kinda slippery not as much...but still. if you dont understand what im saying look at a pic of a PS3 pad and compare it to the new 360 pad. you'll see what i mean.
Posted by ChunLi on August 31, 2010 at 4:34 p.m. #26
Against popular belief, There ARE people who use the D-Pad for fighting games, for, *I* am one of them.
I do not use Arcade Sticks, I use controller, that is what I prefer, you should play according to how you feel comfortable, not how "Pro" you feel.
I do not own a 360, only PS3/Wii, so whenever I am over a friend's house that wants to play SSF4 on his 360, I do my best with the D-Pad. This is a REALLY great innovation for the 360 controllers, I'll have a better chance when I'm forced to play SSF4 on 360, but....that's really expensive...
Posted by Catalyst on August 31, 2010 at 4:41 p.m. #27
@Moguaiz
Thank you for the compliments.
As far as recognition, I'm totally cool with what I get right now. The fact I feel there's such an awesome community here who love these games as much as I do, and want to check out this site and be a part of it is all I need.
If I can help grow the scene and make it more positive, that's really what I'm after, just knowing I helped and was a part of it.
Posted by Kakkarot045 on August 31, 2010 at 4:51 p.m. #28
Is it only me who thinks charge characters can be played well with previous controller...eg..try guile ultra..!
Posted by ChunLi on August 31, 2010 at 4:56 p.m. #29
@Kakkarot
I can't do that motion on ANY controller...;_;
Posted by Sh3azu on August 31, 2010 at 5:16 p.m. #30
#28
That doesn't even make sense, I wasn't trolling. He was being hypocritical and I chose to refer to him as babes as I was trying to be informal.
Posted by Kakkarot045 on August 31, 2010 at 5:24 p.m. #31
Neither can i...the sole reason which prevents me from learning them..!
Posted by mtran on August 31, 2010 at 5:30 p.m. #32
still looks difficult to use
Posted by OhYouDontSayThat on August 31, 2010 at 6:06 p.m. #33
lol Fhawk Xbox
Posted by Gameplan on August 31, 2010 at 6:12 p.m. #34
@Catalyst
Damn, that's a lot of work! I thought there were at least 3 or 4 people running this site. You're doing a terrific job man, I really appreciate it. Keep it up!
Posted by TheShotokan on August 31, 2010 at 6:29 p.m. #35
@theNooB Lol, you're trying so hard to defend the Xbox lol i have all three systems so don't try, and lecture me child. Thanks for reminding me about blu-ray as well, another thing ps3 has on Xbox. Even the newest Xbox doesn't come with blu-ray, or web browser, or chargers for a controller. I got my Xbox in 2006, and since then have had to get 3 because of RROD. I guess you get what you pay for lol stupid. You're just a bitter, and butt-hurt douche who dislikes truth lol. Ps3 >>>>> Wii, and that other system, lol the ps3's mechanics are soo facile vs the Xbox's intricate mechanics you can't even find certain things at times. My brother also has one, and it took him 5 min to find the area with the ip address settings, and he's had his Xbox since 2005. Oh, and he's also got the RROD once, and had to get another lol. GGs douche Ps3 wins by a long shot apologies every1 for being off topic, but idiocy, lunacy, and stupidity, well, they just grind my gears lol.
Posted by JELIFISH19 on August 31, 2010 at 6:39 p.m. #36
I don't think this controller was made for fighting games. The genre doesn't have a big enough impact for Microsoft to change the design of the controller, especially when there are plenty of alternatives available. Not to mention that the fighting game community is pretty small, and the people who take it seriously probably already have a different controller. I think the controller is more for retro style games on XBLA. It's the exact same price as the older controllers and it's not like people stopped buying 360s and controllers. They just improved the design.
Posted by SoulBroRyu on August 31, 2010 at 6:40 p.m. #37
Not only does this help for fighters, but for the truckloads of Arcade games that most of us have.
Playing Castlevania: Symphony of the Night on the stock pad was a nightmare. Thanks goodness for MadCatz ^_^
Posted by Staffinator on August 31, 2010 at 6:51 p.m. #38
Ok here's the problem. There's nothing wrong with the surface of the dpad, it's actually smooth and comfortable. The problem is the location of the thing. You basically HAVE to keep your thumb 90 degrees from your fingers at all times. You begin cramping after a short playthrough when you start trying the dpad. You're better off using the joystick or just spending a lil cash on a madcatz pad or fight stick.
If Microsoft really wanted to make an official "fighting" controller they'd switch the joystick and dpad out (like a ps3 controller) and maybe increase the dpad's size just a bit
Posted by Gameplan on August 31, 2010 at 6:53 p.m. #39
@JELIFISH19
I'd say the 360 dpad is bad for anything that requires any kind of precision to hit a specific direction and only that direction. God knows how many times I've screwed up in games that use the dpad for changing spells/weapons/items/whatever because of that thing, obviously fighting games are completely out of the question.
Posted by PsychoCrusha on August 31, 2010 at 7:04 p.m. #40
So it took Microsoft about four years to act on their customer's request......not a good look.
Posted by Ex_Ein on August 31, 2010 at 7:06 p.m. #41
Seriously are they even trying?
first raising the price of live NOW finally fixing the D-pad
Posted by massi4h on August 31, 2010 at 7:21 p.m. #42
This will be far cheaper and far better quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRG3cx...
Razer Onza, made by Razer who imo make the best mice. Watch the video it looks like a crazy epic controller.
Posted by tokyobassist on August 31, 2010 at 7:41 p.m. #43
DS3 for me. I had 4 360's. The system is built for non gamers for dumb kids and one dimensional American gamers. Not every 360 owner falls under these but a majority do and in denial about its lack of understanding & innovation. PS3 and Wii are trendsetters. M$ are half baked copycats.
LOL at fanboys still talking about PSN being inferior...ISP is crucial to good online play as well. That $50 a year doesn't mean jack. Cross game chat is the only thing useful.
Posted by zores on August 31, 2010 at 8:27 p.m. #44
@n00b_saib0t
Msssive fanboism. I have SSF4 for both 360 and PS3, and there is no difference in the actual online play. PS3 is not laggier online you don't know what you are talking about. Sure you can enter rooms a litle quicker on 360 but that's it.
Posted by Loghorn on August 31, 2010 at 10:11 p.m. #45
That's what they should have done 5 years ago. And it's so simple to do, too.
Posted by Sektah84 on August 31, 2010 at 11:34 p.m. #46
Your too late Microsoft I'll stick to my ps3 pad for fighting games unless you lower the price to $40 but that ain't happening and besides xbox groupies will still cop. I'll stick with the 360 for fps only.
Posted by cuzzo on August 31, 2010 at 11:45 p.m. #47
That pad looks okay but I use the analog when I play fighting games..=/ so its pretty much a waste of money unless u don't have 4 controllers for arcade games
Posted by zUkUu on September 1, 2010 at 1:21 a.m. #48
@catalyst
thx for the inside look. That's indeed some tremendous work you pull off everyday. What happens if you are on vacation for 2 weeks? no news or do you have a subcordinator in any way?
You have respect.
You should make your name colored so anyone can see a "moderator" is active. Will stop 'em spamin.
Again, thank you and I hope you'll have this side up for many years.
Posted by n00b_saib0t on September 1, 2010 at 2:11 a.m. #49
@ TheShotokan
i cant figure out if you're is trolling or if you're just stupid enough to think that all the extra garbage matters. people like you are the reason the PS3 and 360 cost so freaking much. its a fact that the reason we're raped on the price of consoles is because of all the extra crap that goes into them to impress feeble minded people who care more about everything a video game console does that ISNT playing games than actually playing video games.
@ zores
all i find on PSN, ANY GAME, are lag filled rooms. very rarely do i come across a playable game. again, i'm not talking about SSF4 but all the games i have played.
call me a fanboy all you want, i own both systems. i have MM9 and 10 on PS3 because the controller is superior. i have both the PS3 and 360 versions of SF4, but only play on PS3 because thats what console i found my TE for first. i dont see how i'm a fanboy for the 360 just because it does the gaming aspect of things better than the PS3.
Posted by Haku on September 1, 2010 at 3:19 a.m. #50
I think they've just wasted a few thousand just on that...Still I would give the credits for the colour. Damn,if I try to do a circle input motion,nothing will come out.
Posted by FREE1UP on September 1, 2010 at 3:50 a.m. #51
They should make the new D pad standard for every xbox controller and they dont even have to have the extra plus feature. That D Pad they have now is CRAP!!!
Posted by Baha on September 1, 2010 at 4:30 a.m. #52
It still doesn't solve the j.HHS etc / Piano key problems the pad has.
Posted by mr_e on September 1, 2010 at 4:57 a.m. #53
About time. Took'em long enough.
Posted by BlankaBeast on September 1, 2010 at 9:21 a.m. #54
Nice!!
Posted by HyperFlow on September 1, 2010 at 11:17 a.m. #55
Its nice they have responded to criticism, took a while but i think its quite a neat idea.
I use analog anyway.
Posted by DRain on September 1, 2010 at 12:11 p.m. #56
It's nice to know they're listening, but that kind of money is better off going to an arcade stick.
Posted by IrPanda on September 1, 2010 at 4:22 p.m. #57
@Clovr4lyf
Its not wasting money they just need to make it the new standard control. Just like how the duualshock replaced the generic 6-axis in a sense.
Posted by RyuMinati on September 1, 2010 at 4:54 p.m. #58
well i will be getting one just to see for myself but i would question how it would work in case of certian actions heres an example
guiles FADC to ultra 1
down/back focus attack forward dash down/back up/forward 3kick
now im a pad player who puts a bit to much pressure on the pad at times so would a motion like that in addition to more pressure on the dpad or not result in the dpad changing shape (cross-circle) if so then that will deff be a problem
Posted by KO_Dread on September 1, 2010 at 5:47 p.m. #59
Im sorry microsoft but i think the d-pad will spin a little.
I think microsoft should swap the d-pads position with the left analog's position. I know why they didnt but i find it hard anyway because of the position.
The cross doesnt need raising, circular disc bit needs lowering with the current pad to give a similar effect.
Make the Conducter Pads (what ever you call them) inside bigger so we don't jump when we are just trying to move forwards - this is a strict pointer that may decide whether I buy more than 1 of those pads.
Posted by TheShotokan on September 1, 2010 at 5:59 p.m. #60
@ noob Plz im going to take this opportunity to concede to you.If you continue to show the futility in your issues, im going to show the futility in everything you stand for. You should step down before you actually get the chance to realize, and understand that execrable sputum, that you call facts, and theories, and injure yourself. Oh, and for the record i live under a bridge, and goats are very much tasty, ah forget it, i doubt you'll get it, get it? I'll just be blunt im smart, you're dumb, im big, and you're small, im right, and you're an err all in itself. Almost forgot, and there is nothing you can do about it, but im sure you won't get it. -_-
Posted by n00b_saib0t on September 2, 2010 at 12:23 a.m. #61
dude, you're trying way too hard now.
Posted by TheShotokan on September 2, 2010 at 8 a.m. #62
@ noob this is so facile for me i love showing things like you how insignificant they are. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!! where are the goats at i'll eat them all lol.
Posted by n00b_saib0t on September 2, 2010 at 1:23 p.m. #63
i love how you have nothing to back up the PS3 being the superior gaming system once i bring up that youtube on a console is pointless so you just rant like this. its quite amusing.
Posted by Brian_F on September 2, 2010 at 7:48 p.m. #64
I don't understand why pad players need to use the d-pad. I play on a 360 controller using the joystick and I beat people regularly who play with an arcade stick. Joystick rules.
Posted by Utsusemi on September 5, 2010 at 3:56 a.m. #65
@11 Red ring was dealt with months ago wake up. As for the extra charges, yeah its messed up.
Posted by MOEkoto on September 5, 2010 at 12:17 p.m. #66
I'm a pad player and I'm a bit apprehensive about whether this actually does improve execution. Seems like a gimmick to me. I'll wait on some player reviews. If this does work as claimed then I'll get it. Honestly I don't think Joysticks are worth the price so I'm glad that at least one game company is willing to alter their D-pad design to make fighting games that much easier on the pad.
On another note, I don't like how its bundled with the charge kit. That just inflates the price unnecessarily.
