Capcom's Yoshinori Ono thinks fans should collect signatures if they want a new Darkstalkers title to be made. He posted this message on his Twitter account.
What can fans do to get Darkstalkers 4 made?
Ono: [Please do a] signature collecting campaign! It [will be] sent to Capcom USA!
A thread over on Capcom-Unity has gathered a number of signatures already, so if you'd like to see a new Darkstalkers title, hit the link and let Capcom know.
Also, Ono went on to talk about the characters he'd like to see in Super Street Fighter 4.
Posted by Dany on August 11, 2010 at 4:48 a.m. #1
And Miss Nadeshiko??? http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/12/65/27...
Does he know her?!?! :P
Posted by Struggs on August 11, 2010 at 4:54 a.m. #2
Ono just guaranteed that R. Mika is going to be in SSFIV, mark my words.
Posted by heXonyou on August 11, 2010 at 5:15 a.m. #3
Yeah sounds like it, hopefully she fits well into sf4
Posted by Uracilo on August 11, 2010 at 5:18 a.m. #4
Ono has always been obsessed with Mika, this doesn't mean she will be in.
Posted by maxs2d2ace on August 11, 2010 at 5:21 a.m. #5
someone finally mention Yun and Yang. the hong kong street fighter twins. Cant go wrong with them!
Posted by raymk on August 11, 2010 at 5:22 a.m. #6
@4
It kind of does now, the sales for ssf4 surpased expectations in sales numbers so ono is probably intitled do what he wants right now.
Also why would he ask if he remembers karin, how does anyone forget top tier characters in the game lol.
Posted by MEANWHILE on August 11, 2010 at 5:28 a.m. #7
Yun and Yang won't be in, especially Yun. His basis on corner juggles, like in 3s, just doesn't apply to the game system of SSF4 IMO. From 3s, they really need Alex and Elena. As much as I love 12, if they want any hope of preserving the story of SF they won't make him in the game.
Also Rolento and Mika would be lovely.
Posted by MEANWHILE on August 11, 2010 at 5:29 a.m. #8
Also lol at #1.
And, in addition, I think they may have one or two completely new characters.
Posted by fabulos on August 11, 2010 at 5:33 a.m. #9
meh, i'd much rather have Capcom vs SNK3 than Darkstalkers. and don't forget Rolento, Ono!
Posted by DK_DOOM on August 11, 2010 at 5:34 a.m. #10
Yun, Yang, Alex, Urien, Rainbow Mika, Karin, and Rolento.
Make it happen.
Posted by Megadautilus on August 11, 2010 at 5:37 a.m. #11
In a perfect World R.Mika, Yamato Nadeshiko, and Mike Haggar would be 3 of the characters with a wrestling ring as a new stage. This will not happen.
Posted by jonnycbad on August 11, 2010 at 5:41 a.m. #12
Yun and Yang are similar to Feilong/Gen in some respects. Q is similar to Balrog, Sean is like Dan, Hugo is like Zangief. I doubt those characters will be in
Posted by Johnry on August 11, 2010 at 5:47 a.m. #13
Ono's obsession with Mika is just unnatural.
But I guess that's how the majority of grown Japanese men roll these days anyway...
Posted by Apollo13 on August 11, 2010 at 5:50 a.m. #14
well R.mika has been confirmed for ono, and i can garentee elena too, the next 4 wud probably b rolento and karin, alex and hugo, ther sum of the fan favs everybody wants, i wud lik to c yun and yang, heck they can be in the same character slot for all i care, and dependin on what costume u pick u get either yun or yang.of course they wud hav to change how theyfight and not mak them exact clones. so if u pick original costume its yung and he knows all his moves, and if u pick alternate its yang and he wud b a different and kno all his move from 3rd strike. that wud be the best way to get them both in.
Posted by halo on August 11, 2010 at 6:03 a.m. #15
Lol so basically R.Mika is 100% confirmed :-)
Posted by SabishiiRyuu on August 11, 2010 at 6:28 a.m. #16
@14: Your suggestion is kind of stupid. Giving them whole different move sets is the exact reason they're not making more characters. It's not like they can't add more because there's no more room to add.
Posted by EX_Machina on August 11, 2010 at 6:37 a.m. #17
With Street Fighter 3 Online Edition being released in the future, you can expect a minimum of 2 out of the 6 characters to be from 3rd strike...
I'm guessing that one of them is Urien or Hugo...
Posted by TheSquirrelMaster on August 11, 2010 at 6:45 a.m. #18
WTF ever hapend to skullomania? Did people 4get that game ever existed? or mayb they want to 4get.
Posted by logic_boi on August 11, 2010 at 6:50 a.m. #19
LOL. I love Ono. No homo. Did he just give away who some of the cast might be?
Yun, Yang, and Karin. :lbf
Posted by TheSquirrelMaster on August 11, 2010 at 6:53 a.m. #20
Am i the only loser who remembers that game?
Posted by SabishiiRyuu on August 11, 2010 at 6:55 a.m. #21
@SquirrelMaster: Capcom didn't make those s**tty EX games therefor they don't have the rights to use EX characters and honestly, I'm glad they don't.
Posted by CypherFDP on August 11, 2010 at 7:08 a.m. #22
Forget. Not 4get. Forget.
Anyway, Skullomania is still my favorite character in ANY fighting game, and I want to see him.
Posted by dtbighead0812 on August 11, 2010 at 7:11 a.m. #23
ugh r mika? really? why..?? well.. there's one new character i want be using.. as for 3s chars idk.. i dont want to see anymore 3s characters raped by sf4's game engine.. theyre just too different. ibuki is the only one to make a good transition imo.. but i think others like urien, elena, yun, etc wont cut it.. seeing them in super might just make you upset at the fact that they arent as good as they used to be (makoto)
Posted by Jarkyttaa on August 11, 2010 at 7:34 a.m. #24
The only two characters I really want to see at this point are Alex and Karin. I think they both would fill out the cast with more brawler-types. I think Alex would make the transition just fine, as he didn't really fit all that well into the SFIII mold all that well, as mix-ups and combo options were so important in that game due to parrying and he just didn't have them. Urien would be fun, but I really wouldn't care if the only SFIII character who made it was Alex.
Posted by daltronica on August 11, 2010 at 7:36 a.m. #25
Yeah she dosent fit in. Her super invloves a giant wrestling ring appearing from off screen, and loads of moves where she hits you with her ass... goofy and mad irritating .. but if she was toned down a bit, maybe.
Posted by Teapo on August 11, 2010 at 7:41 a.m. #26
R.Mika: 360 moving grab and 360 command grab plus a move that gives you movement, but is unsafe on block depending on what version you use. Almost sounds like Zangief without a lariat doesn't it?
Karin: Rekkas that can be mixed up on the fly and a counter. If Able had a counter and a lot less moves we would be kind of close. She we need some big changes to be strong being that all of her strength came from a pretty goofy fighting engine.
Anyone from EX: Typically a very uninspired character based off ofsomething that was cool. Darun is the Great Gama and that is cool, but playing him is just eh. Skullomania is Kamen Rider with some silliness added, and I have never seen a skullomania supporter say anything positive beyond that funny Raging Demon rip off move. I like Kamen Rider and I like humor, but looks and comedy do not make a fun playstyle.
Hugo: I am a huge Hugo supporter, but I think he would have to not be the same Hugo, or have something ridiculous to even sneak him out of the same hot water I just put R. Mika in.
Alex: Ochio throw, no priority headbutt, unsafe butt smash, no invincibility anti air grab, and Hakan's 360 kick grab. Oh yeah only one move special cancels, standing close Mid kick. Oh yeah this guy would need an Overhaul. Say good bye to playing like the 3rd Strike version.
Charlie, Evil Ryu, Obvious clones (not Yun/Yang they actually seem reasonable): Really? From the same people who complain about too many shotos? Hmm I'll have to ignore people a little more often.
Yes normals often show a characters worth but these games all used very different engines from SF4 and if your moves are junk or carbon copies of other characters than that won't save you. Do I need to bring up Makoto? I think she is decent (Good in the hands of a smart player), but I also know that she is hardly 3rd Strike Makoto because it isn't 3rd Strike.
Whatever does happen I hope for the best, but I really want some variety that is viable this time around. Like Cody, he has some cool stuff and still feels like Cody even though he obviously lost his stupid V ism Juggles and both of his supers while gaining a new move that fits in. So please let's think about how characters would work and what they would need without changing them too much to keep them fun in this game before adding votes to things that wouldn't work in Capcom polls (I know it's probably way past polling time, but hopefully this gets us thinking about the next poll).
Rolento is a good choice straight up well done.
Wall of text complete. Hating coming up.
Posted by Tsevin on August 11, 2010 at 7:48 a.m. #27
*sigh* but R.Mika is just fanservice garbage. She's pretty much guaranteed to be low tier. Especially if Ono likes her so much... they tend to make their favorites bad so they don't feel like they're being biased with character balance.
Posted by Oroku_Saki on August 11, 2010 at 7:50 a.m. #28
I'd like to see Cracker Jack or some really lethal comedy character.
I'll be happier to pay for someone like Doctrine Dark than paying for extra nonsensical costumes.
Posted by Drager on August 11, 2010 at 8:03 a.m. #29
Can someone please explain why R. Mika is such a big deal?
Posted by whinerhubs_com on August 11, 2010 at 8:04 a.m. #30
Yun Yang === Rufus. No way.
Posted by Tsevin on August 11, 2010 at 8:07 a.m. #31
@Drager
Because of her... assets
Posted by mjcd on August 11, 2010 at 8:09 a.m. #32
I would rather have CAPCOM VS SNK 3 instead. It would be more fun for me.
Posted by Android on August 11, 2010 at 8:12 a.m. #33
Alex, Rolento, Elena pleeeeeease! Those characters are fun and i think they would translate well.
Didnt Ono already post that if given the chance he would add Hugo and Rainbow?
Posted by DoomGuy86 on August 11, 2010 at 8:12 a.m. #34
And what about a signature collecting campaign to confirm once and for all the dammed SSFIV PC?
Posted by al2k on August 11, 2010 at 8:24 a.m. #35
Urien please! or Ace!
Posted by Triforce on August 11, 2010 at 8:31 a.m. #36
R. Mika for the win-can't wait to see that big ass in 3-d
Posted by bagboy on August 11, 2010 at 8:32 a.m. #37
I personally have 2 reasons for Mika:
1. I enjoy learning the more obscure and "low tier" characters of a game and beating people with them. For me, Mika was that character in Alpha 3.
2. DHAT A$$!!!
Posted by Realpolitik on August 11, 2010 at 8:38 a.m. #38
Abel needs Sean's ground and pound to make him complete.
Posted by WhiteHotTaco on August 11, 2010 at 8:54 a.m. #39
I'd like to see R. Mika, Rolento, Alex, Elena, Hugo and either Sodom or Q.
And seriously.. if we don't get Mika with all he talks about her that is going to blow. I'll bump Ono up above Sakurai on my list of trolls.
Posted by BOT2K on August 11, 2010 at 9:08 a.m. #40
Did anyon find the thread we are supposed to sign on Capcom Unit?
Posted by OhYouDontSayThat on August 11, 2010 at 9:14 a.m. #41
PLEASE NO DARK STALKERS PLEASE.... more ssf4 characters
Posted by courte on August 11, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. #42
#28 YES!! This is the perfect opportunity for them [EX] chars to come back. They can definitely be introduced and re imagined in a way that interest people who forgot about them and still pay homage to the original design. For C-Jack, he'd be a great rival for Cody, switch his BF to a QCF Glide stance where he kicks or punches after it
#41 STFU unless you mean no DarkStalkers in SFIV
Posted by Sektah84 on August 11, 2010 at 9:26 a.m. #43
^ what's wrong with darkstalkers? It's going to be sf overkill IMO release these characters and don't release a new sf for about 3-4 years IMO. Mika eh I can't deal with her no disrespect to Ono but she sucks. Karin I like so I'm cool with that. I wouldn't mind seeing urien in it to see what they make him say about Seth.
Posted by cuttyb1987 on August 11, 2010 at 9:28 a.m. #44
They should add 3 characters from sf1 and street fighter ex characters like, Allen, kairi, and cracker jack or Volcano russo and from sf1 Geki, eagle, retsu he knows Gouken from the comics
Posted by Guibbows on August 11, 2010 at 9:35 a.m. #45
Really don1t think Hugo is goin to be in. Especially cuz he appears in the Metro City Stage in the background. He's bein playable means they gonna have to change the stage.
R. Mika already in, rope for Yun OR Yang too (the other one being an alternate custume or something like)
mais Rolento and Alex will be good too. And 2 new Caracters.
1- R. Mika
2- Yun/Yang
3- Rolento
4- Alex
5- Brand New Caracter
6- Brand New Caracter
Posted by Nyoronoru on August 11, 2010 at 9:40 a.m. #46
I also would appreciate new characters.
Ones that aren't weak, of course.
Posted by Ex_Ein on August 11, 2010 at 9:44 a.m. #47
good stuff ono
1.Mika
2.Sean
3.Geki
4.Hugo
5.Alex
6. new character
aka for all of you Karin, Yun and Yang fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYP_Mg...
Posted by bagboy on August 11, 2010 at 10 a.m. #48
#45
I don't get the logic that since Hugo is in the background of the Metro City stage, he can't be in the game. Have we forgotten that Boxer is in the African airstrip stage, replaced be Claw when he fights? When Hugo fights, Hagar in the background. Done.
Posted by ChunLi on August 11, 2010 at 10:06 a.m. #49
@45
Just because someone appears in the background automatically makes them a non-usable character? You, sir, are completely blind:
-Does Balrog (Boxer) NOT appear in the airfield stage in the SF4 games?
-Does Yang NOT appear when Yun is fighting in the background in his stage?
They can patch it to where Hugo won't appear in the Construction stage when he is being used, simple as that.
Posted by ChunLi on August 11, 2010 at 10:10 a.m. #50
@48
Wow, great minds think alike, huh? You must've posted yours as I was writing mine. :P
Posted by Super_Shoto_Fighter_4 on August 11, 2010 at 10:24 a.m. #51
Yeh I;ll be using R.Mika. Can't wait.
Posted by GrimmjawJin on August 11, 2010 at 10:39 a.m. #52
Well, R.Mika confirmed lol... and Elena too since she was the one who just missed being in the game.
Posted by blahxkyou on August 11, 2010 at 10:40 a.m. #53
Ingrid please!!
SSIV needs Ingrid!
Posted by TheCreator on August 11, 2010 at 10:44 a.m. #54
Wow i cant wait 2 see r.mika back she was my fav girl in alpha 3 lol its digital boobs all over again ahahahaah
Posted by akumaking1 on August 11, 2010 at 10:48 a.m. #55
cmon EX chatracters have to be added now
1.garuda
2.shadow geist
3.skullomania
4.rolento/karin/r.mika
5.alex
6.elena
Posted by Sektah84 on August 11, 2010 at 11:18 a.m. #56
If ex characters were to be added(which won't happen) i vote for Blair!
Posted by alfarin on August 11, 2010 at 11:19 a.m. #57
ANYBODY but Yun and Yang.
ANYBODY.
Posted by Sh3azu on August 11, 2010 at 11:29 a.m. #58
@12 People say that. He just isn't.
Q.
Posted by LunaSlave on August 11, 2010 at 11:41 a.m. #59
Very happy if Mika makes it, ambivalent about Rolento. I wish there was more love for Twelve and Oro!
Posted by Meety on August 11, 2010 at 11:46 a.m. #60
#26 i really agree on dat even though i really want karin rolento nd elena n da game rolento nd karin r a great choice nd also just 1 question did they evr had any thoughts on characters from EX nd Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
Posted by MassacreKelz on August 11, 2010 at 11:53 a.m. #61
The characters i used in SfII are guile and vega. super turbo i used chun li and in SSFIV i use juri so i have all the characters i want so it doesn't matter to me who are the new characters. i just hope you people that haven't gotten you favorite, get them in this arcade update.
Posted by BlooD_MoneY on August 11, 2010 at 11:54 a.m. #62
HOW LOVELY I HATE BOTH CHARACTERS.
Posted by Keepingitclassy on August 11, 2010 at 11:59 a.m. #63
Q is probably one of the most Original character in the game (other than his charge attacks which are slightly similar to Balrog's charge attacks) So yeah, I'd like to see him, don't see why some people hate on him.
Elena is another one, she's also a great possibility since she barely missed ssf4.
Ono has mentioned Hugo before
Although I don't care for R.Mika, Ono has said multiple times he would like to see her in the game.
He just mentioned Yun & Yang
Thats six right there.
Posted by Meety on August 11, 2010 at 12:04 p.m. #64
#54 definitely ingrid i wanna c wat she can do it seems like shes similar 2 karin
Posted by Dipadova17 on August 11, 2010 at 12:06 p.m. #65
Ok one thing people we probably won't be seeing these characters until Christmas or nxt year and another thing they may realese this new content on a disc like some dlc is. It would have new characters possibly stages and all the dlc costumes. Then the would entitle it Super Street Fighter 4 Turbo or some other surname. 30.00$
Here is my character list... (5-6characters maximum)
1.Elena
2.R.Mika
3.Rolento
4.Yun(for sure no Yang)/Alex(Hugo Rivial!!!)
5.Hugo(Vs Zangief Dream match)
6Karin
6.
Posted by Shanic on August 11, 2010 at 12:07 p.m. #66
I WANT JUNI AND JULI X(
Posted by chickenwings on August 11, 2010 at 12:08 p.m. #67
i hope he makes some upgrdaes to the engine. Adding guard break would make this update worth 60 bucks.
Posted by Ex_Ein on August 11, 2010 at 12:22 p.m. #68
Mika has such a unique style that's very different in that half her special moves are started with just pressing in a direction with two punches or kicks, and she's got 3 command grabs and two other hit attack moves.
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Street_F...
calling her "like" El Fuerte is like saying deejay and Ryu are basically the same character just because they have an antiair, fireball and hurricane kick
Posted by tokyobassist on August 11, 2010 at 12:33 p.m. #69
Q is a better candidate but if you're not Kuroda then I see no point in adding him.
To put it bluntly, he's gutter trash.
Posted by JoseRufus on August 11, 2010 at 12:35 p.m. #70
THEY SHOULD MAKE SSF4 VS DARK STALKERS 4
Posted by tokyobassist on August 11, 2010 at 12:35 p.m. #71
Oh and besides if Q still has his full screen kara then you'll all eat your words and start vomiting your complaints on this site.
Posted by Lue on August 11, 2010 at 12:46 p.m. #72
I said it already and i'll say it again. Keep the 3rd strike characters out of SF4, we've clearly been shown they don't work well in a parryless world.
Posted by JMJ_Th3_Wik3d on August 11, 2010 at 12:47 p.m. #73
Man I hope they put Rolento in game because he has a unique play style in street fighter. i love his forward quarter rotation Patriot circle attack twelve hit combo, intense. If rolento is in the game his super will be his mine sweeper move and his 1st or 2nd ultra will be Take No Prisoner, then the 2nd ultra will be entirely new but neither the less I hope he's going to be in the game.
Posted by Keepingitclassy on August 11, 2010 at 12:51 p.m. #74
@74 3 characters doesnt mean jack. Ibuki has worked out great, and there are some great Dudley players. Makoto is ridiculously bottom tier, but people have still managed to tdo good with her. Excluding makoto thats 2/3. and 3 characters aren't enough to justify your logic.
Posted by BisonBetterBeGoodInSSF4 on August 11, 2010 at 12:52 p.m. #75
its actually gonna be Mika Rolento Charlie Q Elena and Alex.
if anybody noticed their avatars appeared "randomly" on PSN.
plus a few days ago a thread said he'll add 6 more characters.
Posted by BlackHart on August 11, 2010 at 1:04 p.m. #76
LMBAO @ #52
I just want Elena and possibly Rolento.
And for Alex not to be in.
Posted by gluemchen on August 11, 2010 at 1:11 p.m. #77
Knowing Karin Kanzuki is R. Mika`s Pro Wrestling sponsor. She needs to be in there.
Posted by gtfopanda on August 11, 2010 at 1:13 p.m. #78
@ 76 Keepingitclassy
Your point has dignity, but as far as Dudley is concerned, he has a point. Without parry his horrendous footsies is even more of a weakness in SF4 system, and his Rose is utterly pointless. Not to mention his useless specials, SWS and Thunderbolt.
Posted by Aristogato on August 11, 2010 at 1:32 p.m. #79
Ono, please:
KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN KARIN
Posted by asianmaster on August 11, 2010 at 1:47 p.m. #80
Add POISON!!!
Posted by Ult_Assassin on August 11, 2010 at 1:50 p.m. #81
Karin for Super Street Fighter IV! Sakura need's a proper rival!
Posted by MrPavy on August 11, 2010 at 1:58 p.m. #82
sean is crappy. good 12 players are entertaining to watch
rolento was kinda cool and stfu about elena
Posted by MrPavy on August 11, 2010 at 2:01 p.m. #83
i mean look at this crazy 12 player moto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGc49P...
Posted by MonkeyCha0s on August 11, 2010 at 2:09 p.m. #84
lol @45 saying mais instead of but. yea im taking french class. speaking of foriegn language if they are making new characters they should put a really thugged out puertorican or dominican. lol that would make me proud and insulted but when capcom does it its funny
Posted by jupiter on August 11, 2010 at 2:10 p.m. #85
as long as Elena, Karin, and Ingrid are in, i don't care about the rest. but to support my entries:
-Elena has a great moveset. she has anti-air, over head normals, 2-hit target combos, and fights capoeira style. she's straight up fun. her lunge kicks were great too.
-Karin to me has always seemed like a solid character. she has rekka mixups, counters, a command grab, and she has Sakura's body frame, so she seems to be harder to cross up when she crouches. always has been a favorite
-Ingrid...now there's an interesting character. her projectiles are floaty and useful. she has counters, and an anti-air. her spinning kick special though seems to be not as useful...at least not when i played Capcom Fighting Jam. still, she's fresh and has great potential in SSF4.
-i don't play Rolento, but i really appreciate a good Rolento-player in a match. he would just add more awesomeness to SSF4. he's popular enough and has a really fun moveset. damn, he can be really annoying!
-Hugo. i've never used him, he's not my playstyle, but he seems to be a really great addition. isn't he like super huge? even bigger than ol' Zangy? his head would overlap the life-bar! lol. i say HELL YES! i love playing against him, it's always intense. talented Hugo-players know what's up. bring him on board!
-Rainbow Mika. she can be all over the place, and can also be unpredictable close up, she'd be cool to see, but i'm not really a 'fan' of her. i could take it or leave it. seeing as Ono is in love with her, she'd most likely make it in. so this spot can go to her, i really don't care, lol.
Posted by Super_Shoto_Fighter_4 on August 11, 2010 at 2:14 p.m. #86
I want Karin in the game so it will be easier to rank up my Dan and Hakan.
Posted by Creeper on August 11, 2010 at 2:15 p.m. #87
There needs to be professional boxing/wrestling ring stage with a huge audience. Capcom said they tried to have most stages suit more than one character; many current characters would be right at home there, and the (supposed) addition of Alex, Hugo, and R. Mika is the perfect time to add it.
Posted by DarkCyclone on August 11, 2010 at 2:22 p.m. #88
I don't get comments like "this character can not fit in this game because of this." Characters can easily be modified to fit the system. I wouldn't even call that a concern
Posted by jackpot69 on August 11, 2010 at 2:47 p.m. #89
I KNOW YOU CAN HEAR ME, ONO BIG BOSS AT CAPCOM! YOU`RE THE ONLY HOPE AGAIN! DON’T LET GARBAGE CHARACTER LIKE MIKA GO IN SSF4 UPDATE!
MAKE IT HAPPEN!! XD
Posted by Guile4Life on August 11, 2010 at 2:49 p.m. #90
i dont get why people want rolento so much didnt find him all that fun to use back in the day and for the guy saying the twins wouldnt work right in sf4 system cuz they use juggles hello they will still have some sort of juggling ability and u can focus cancel in the game so it wouldnt be hard not to juggle lol. haggar would be cool but wont happen hes to much like gief and gief has his outfit so thats highly unlikely. they need 4 old school characters like karen alex yun n yang and 2 new people would be sweet
Posted by Suppi on August 11, 2010 at 3:08 p.m. #91
funny if they didnt make a new darkstalker game, and just added two darkstalker characters in ssfiv for lulz.
Posted by Kuei on August 11, 2010 at 3:08 p.m. #92
It's almost like Ono likes R. Mika....
Posted by xShonuffx on August 11, 2010 at 3:29 p.m. #93
I think a lot of people just want characters for the heck of it. They are not thinking,"Wow this character would fit in SF4". People need to ask themselves these questions when they think of their dream list.
1) Is the character unique and different from the current SFIV roster? (R.Mika possible to be in the update but she is a grappler, we currently have at least 5 Grappler types).
2) Does the character fit chronologically in the SFIV canon? (12 and Necro would make no sense because these character strongly reflect Gill's motives not Seths).
3) Will the charcter be too strong or too weak when transfering to SSFIV's fighting system. What made the character so strong/weak in the last iteration?
(Remember Makoto, IBuki, Dudley, Guy)
OK, NOW you can make your list.
And will someone Twit Ono and tell him we have a Ton of Grapplers in SFIV and to stop his obssession with R.Mika, Jeez!!!!!!!!
Posted by GiantRobot on August 11, 2010 at 3:31 p.m. #94
6 new speculated characters.
Q Alex and Elena shows up as avatars.
R.Mika Karin are onos favs, and rolento is the massive favorite.
3 from alpha 3 from 3s. if theyre going to rerelease 3s, wouldnt you WANT to see more 3s characters? same for alpha. why the hell would they use 2 spots for yun and yang when you can diversify. also like i said avatars and ono speak for yourself, and also, hugo? isnt he in the background, im SURE. SUUUUUREEEE they would of thought about these extra characters way before super was released. so?
Posted by PhinnyCupcakes on August 11, 2010 at 3:33 p.m. #95
@52 .. Lol, dude =P
Posted by GiantRobot on August 11, 2010 at 3:34 p.m. #96
and sorry for the dbl post but @97
*ahem* ryu ken akuma dan sakura (gouken)
no one complains about shotos, stop whining about grapplers, its does one good to outframe a shoto combo
Posted by xShonuffx on August 11, 2010 at 3:41 p.m. #97
@100 Well im not asking for shotos or grapplers if it makes you feel any better but grapplers seem to be the most saturated charater base in Super Street Fighter 4 we got three new characters in the world of street fighter that are grapplers and and now we are hearing that characters like Hugo and R.Mika having the best possible chance to get in. I like those characters, but I think we just have enough for now.
Personally I think they should just nix the characters and balance what they got.
Posted by Jarkyttaa on August 11, 2010 at 3:58 p.m. #98
@97:
1.) SSFIV has 3 "pure" grapplers (Zangief, T. Hawk and Hakan) then 5 characters who have a command throw that plays some role in their offense (Fei Long, Abel, Makoto, El Fuerte, Honda, with Abel and Honda being who I assume you count as the other 2 grapplers). Compare this to the 6 pure shotos (Gouken, Akuma, Ryu, Ken, Dan, and Sakura and possibly Sagat, although he's not a pure shoto). And the 3 grapplers are way more different than any 2 shotos. I don't know why you'd ever want to complain about having 1 more grappler.
2.) I don't think that's really a concern in any of the characters. They unkilled Gouken to bring him into the SFIV canon, not to mention that both Makoto and Ibuki would likely be toddlers during the events of SSFIV. The SF series doesn't exactly worry about a tightly-woven canon. They put gameplay above just about everything.
3.) It wouldn't take much to make any character top tier or bottom tier, regardless of their abilities in previous games. Give Makoto average health instead of girl health, give her EX dash punch fireball invincibility, give her back the ability to command grab after dash punch, add invincible frames to the EX axe kick, slightly increase her walking speed, and speed up her chop ability. She'd still be more or less a good transition from 3S to SSFIV, but instead of being lowest tier, she'd be mid to high tier easily. Same character with the same base move set.
Posted by RedCycloneFTW on August 11, 2010 at 4:12 p.m. #99
I want to see Rolento,Birdie,Eagle,Sodom. By the way isn't anyone stocked for a new Dark Stalkers? Jone Talbain FTW. I also think if they put new chars in game at least make some Filipino characters you already have guys from Thailand and Hong Kong show the other Asian countries some love.
Posted by OSM on August 11, 2010 at 4:52 p.m. #100
SUPPORTING A NEW DARKSTALKERS 110%
Posted by TehLazyOne on August 11, 2010 at 5:21 p.m. #101
Signed for a new Darkstalkers a while ago.
Hope that Oro and/or Q gets in.
Posted by powderedtoastman on August 11, 2010 at 5:48 p.m. #102
hugo would be a very nice edition. he has the wall throw:something no one else has.
his running grab shoves people into the corner:honda ultra 1 does that and abel super throws them back out the corner, having the ability to do so with a special move can lead to some funny corner traps with focus attacks around.
his palm claps work like no other move:stuffing out fireballs and tremendous hit stun, would be nice to see level 2 focus cancels landing from palm strikes to create a nasty loop.
Hugo can be the first grappler with a non grab super:hammer mountain.
Hugo would be the only grappler with an overhead and have multiple ones at that: second hit of s.mk,s.fp,s.fk,c.fk on certain frames.
And i would like to see ex monster lariat charge across the screen with sf4 engine.
Hugo and zangief would play nothing alike
Posted by Wardog on August 11, 2010 at 5:52 p.m. #103
They might as well put everybody in the game because people don't really care about the story that much. it's Capcom fault for keep going back in the SF storyline. also how can you main someone if they don't be in the next game?(street fighter period) except the original sf cast.
Posted by mrdrofficer on August 11, 2010 at 6:31 p.m. #104
#91
Yeah a ring is very overdue. I would also love the beach level from the opening of BOTH IV games. I live in Hawaii and let me tell you, there's no lava. Make it Jamaica if you want. And a field level like in the opening too! Europe represented!
We need Oro or a new character too. I like the suggestion for Mika's friend. Both are for the reason of having a new style of character. Oro is like Honda in a way but also like Guile so he fits the Charlie thing as well as fitting in the story (younger Oro). The point is to have new styles and I'm sure they could come up with a new character or two that are even more distinct.
Posted by Mrb20028 on August 11, 2010 at 6:54 p.m. #105
Personally, I never played a Darkstalkers game ever, but I'm aware of characters such as Felicia, Morrigan, B.B. Hood, Anakaris, Jedah, and Dmitri. If Darkstalkers 4 is a game to be made in the future, I'll look into it. I've been a Street Fighter fan all of my life, so I don't know exactly how good Darkstalkers is.
Posted by DecoyLogan on August 11, 2010 at 7:11 p.m. #106
Ono please make Darkstalkers 4, it will make up for SFvTekken.
Posted by Jarkyttaa on August 11, 2010 at 7:43 p.m. #107
Well, he's doing SFxT, so if he were to produce the new DS game, I doubt we'd see it until 2014 at the very very earliest.
Posted by Nukka on August 11, 2010 at 7:58 p.m. #108
FFF I hate R. Mika. And lol for the people who do want her, truth be told most of you ARN'T going to play with her, just like the other characters you guys wanted in super.
Posted by Jarkyttaa on August 11, 2010 at 8:09 p.m. #109
Who you play as is only 1/2 of the game. You always have an opponent. I don't readily like playing Dhalsim all that much, but I love going up against good Sims, so I'm very glad that he's in the game.
Posted by raymk on August 11, 2010 at 8:44 p.m. #110
Ingrid please!!
SSIV needs Ingrid!
Posted by bwinches on August 11, 2010 at 9:06 p.m. #111
Disclaimer: The statements below are mere opinions. Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about, but below are my reasons not to include certain characters in SSFIV.
Remy and Charlie: Jezz, just play as Guile already.
Q, Twelve, Urien, and Gill: We already have an artificial, android, synthetic, life-form thingy. Just give Seth a trench coat and a fedora as an alternate costume.
Yun and Yang: Their primary game mechanics are already found in SFIV/SSFIV. Their spirits live in the game already. Just give Fei Long, Gen, and Rufus skateboards and ballcaps already.
Alex, Birdie, and Hugo: Come on! Do we really need more grapplers?
Necro: We have Blanka and Dhalsim.
Haggar: We have Zangief and we have the mayor’s outfit to boot.
Sean and Sheng Long: Too many shotos!
Evil Ryu: Come on! Play as Akuma already. Pretend that Ryu, in color #10, is evil already.
Rolento and Karin: I just feel these character’s primary play mechanics are covered within Abel’s change of direction, Fei Long’s rekkakens, and Ibuki’s knifes from the air.
Posted by Ex_Ein on August 11, 2010 at 9:30 p.m. #112
bwinches
Remy has a high and low fireball and the dive kick move which is a great move to get across screen fast
Charlie has the air to air somersault(Jaguar kick) and is the creator of the style that Guile uses so he might end up more like Deejay in terms of moves and less like guile.
Yun and Yang: Yun and yang are expanded move sets on Gen's two styles and are effective on their own
Q,12,Urien and gill: you noticed how all 4 come from the same game
Alex,Birdie and Hugo:
Alex is Alex, I see no real reason for him since he and Abel are basically interchangeable.
Birdie wasn't originally a grapple and has charge moves that aren't grapples
Hugo actually is a very unique grappler
Necro:
He combines fun elements of both
Haggar: even I say no!
Sean:He's got his own thing going
Sheng long and Ryu:seriously people are still on that?
Rolento:He's also got his grenades and is way different from Ibuki
Karin is more of a whole thing aboout rivalry and she might have new and expanded moves
Posted by gamanoabura_at_nsb on August 11, 2010 at 9:47 p.m. #113
The sequel of vampire is hoped for also in Japan. If the signature activity is done in the United States, the same thing is done also in Japan.
ヴァンパイアの続編は日本でも望まれています。もしアメリカで署名活動をするとき、日本でも同じ動きがあるはずです。
Posted by Lue on August 11, 2010 at 10:43 p.m. #114
@76 I'll give you ibuki, since she is playable and has some good options, despite having a pretty tough uphill battle against some of the stronger characters. But you're telling me Dudley did not get raped by the lack of parry system? Get out of here.
Posted by ChunLi on August 11, 2010 at 10:52 p.m. #115
It doesn't matter who gets put in, you're still going to play against Ryu, Ken and Akumas online.
Posted by Lue on August 11, 2010 at 10:52 p.m. #116
@76 +
fyi my logic is justifiable as there is a sound point to justify it. I believe you were trying to say that it is not definitively true, which is indeed so.
However, consider how rational the opposite sound. I mean look, they put three 3s characters and a whopping 1 out of 3 is playable in a competitive level. Quite frankly I don't want Capcom wasting my precious character slots on DLC that i'll eventually have to pay for on characters that simply don't work in their enviroment.
Posted by Gameplan on August 11, 2010 at 11:18 p.m. #117
I knew it, Mika is in! Now bring Elena and Karin or better yet a totally new character.
Posted by portalsofmadnes on August 12, 2010 at 12:06 a.m. #118
#uck street fighter,hopefully theres a new DARKSTALKERS game!
Posted by Jarkyttaa on August 12, 2010 at 5:26 a.m. #119
@120:
Marn won Devastation 2010 with Dudley, and while it's not Evo, it had very considerable talent there, so I'd definitely call that the competitive level. See my post at #102. It just happens that they don't play well in SSFIV, or as well as their 3S counter parts. You could easily give a few tweaks to any of those 3 characters, or any character in general, and bump them from low/mid tier to high/mid tier instantly. Look at how few nerfs Sagat needed to be moved from S-tier to just pretty good, or how few buffs Guile and Vega needed to be moved from low tier to upper tier. Makoto and (questionably) Dudley don't suck because of their background, they suck because they weren't balanced properly. If the dev team wanted to make Makoto top-tier, they wouldn't have to do a heck of a lot, let alone change her skill set in any dramatic fashion.
Posted by Keepy989 on August 12, 2010 at 8:40 a.m. #120
@97
I know I'm going to sound really stupid saying this, but I don't think Makoto had to transfer this badly from 3S to SSF4. If they didn't throw on so many unnecessary buffs she would be at least decent.
Posted by Keepy989 on August 12, 2010 at 8:40 a.m. #121
unnecessary debuffs*
Posted by bwinches on August 12, 2010 at 9:27 a.m. #122
@Ex_Ein post #116 and Jarkyttaa post #123
To be honest, I'll probably be hyped on any additional characters so long as they're coming to the home consoles. 6 sounds like a lot. It seems that we'd have to see some re-balancing amongst the existing characters to fit in 6 more. I pray they do some some adjusting to existing characters. I'd prefer that Capcom didn't waste two many slots on characters that are too similar to existing ones, but I understand that people want their favorites. Everyone has a right to want to see their favorite introduced in the modern game.... even if that favorite is Evil Ryu.
Posted by Jarkyttaa on August 12, 2010 at 9:44 a.m. #123
The issue, as I see it, is that Capcom tried to duplicate favored play styles in new games (we saw it in SFA and then again, and moreso, in SFIII) and keep them fresh by adding them to new characters. That was fine and worked for those games, but then the issue occurs when you make a reunion game. That said, I think there are plenty of characters left in the canon that allow for adding 6 (or more) characters and keeping it diverse.
Hugo plays unlike any other grappler and would make plenty of sense, and R. Mika does too, to a certain extent. Karen has reckas/change of direction, but her moveset aside from that is pretty much completely unlike Fei or Abel. You don't say that Chun and Ryu are more or less the same because they both have fireballs. Depending on how they would handle target combos, Alex could play very differently than Abel. Abel's game revolves around applying pressure with the threat of his command grab used to control space. Abel does a similar thing, but his jumping grab (if they make it less obvious) and his chop and slash make him more menacing and able to control space from 1/2-1/4 screen and is much less mix-up oriented. While they both have similar special moves on paper, they would be played quite differently in the SFIV paradigm.
Posted by powderedtoastman on August 12, 2010 at 2:21 p.m. #124
to me alex and abel aren't alike outside having a command grab.
First of all alex could be the first character in ssf4 to have a move that forces the other to turn around and also allow him combo into his variety of grabs for beefy damage.
Alex dash elbow could be made to be use more like Dictators scissor kick pressure except it wont knock down on hit. Also could add the wall bounce on the Hk or ex version like on tvc:Juri is capable of doing so with her dive kick so why not.
His anti air grab could grab wall bounced people from his dash elbow: like rose HP reflect into soul throw.
His super should be his stun gun which could lead to some interesting results with sf4 engine, altho damage scaling would keep him in check.
Alex B+HP blockable grab should be a heavy stun dealer like zangief jumping headbutts. His command dive attack could work like his tvc counter part and be allowed to combo afterwards.
His jumping grab unlike hakans doesnt have him flopping all over the ground begging to get punished but doesnt grab aerial opponents. And his stomps could be made more safe like hondas butt splashes seeing how they both are charges and can cross over, and i loved ex stomping or stun gunning fireball spammers in 3s would be nice to do so in a game where there is alot of it.
After all that share no similarities with abel.
Posted by Put_Elena_in_SF on August 12, 2010 at 5:37 p.m. #125
Just put Elena in, and the world will be happy.
Posted by damonte985 on August 13, 2010 at 2:19 a.m. #126
i would love to see evil ryu.
Posted by Loghorn on August 13, 2010 at 7:20 a.m. #127
I would love to see a new Darkstalkers/Vampire game.
On this topic, I agree with what xShonuffx & bwinches are saying, though I would like to see characters like Rolento & Karin make it in instead of characters like Alex, Hugo, & R. Mika (because basically, we have enough grapplers in this game already & we need more characters that are apart from those, & same with shoto characters, such as why we got six of them already; so we don't need Sean).
As far as EX characters goes, guys, it's not going to happen, because those characters are owned by Arika (as a matter of fact, those characters were created by Arika & not by Capcom themselves).
Posted by chickenwings on August 14, 2010 at 2:32 a.m. #128
WE NEED GUARD METER FOR SUPER STREET FIGHTER 4
