Visual stamina and stun rankings for Super Street Fighter 4

you won't dry when a comand grab hits, even if you grab someone oiled up one third of a second before drying up, but it will dry as soon as it ends.

wasnt fuerte supposed to have 950?

also dunno why gen and fuerte are so low. nothing op about em

@#4:

Actualy, I clicked on the link just for the pleasure to see elf (my main) in the 950 stamina group...what a disapointment!

It still pisses me off that Capcom doesn't seem to want *any* female characters to go without a HP penalty. It's especially egregious when Makoto gets a penalty and a fragile speedster like Guy is right there with the shotos. I bet they'd give freaking R. Mika 950... oh well, at least the range isn't as wide as it was before, so characters with penalties won't be slogging uphill to quite the same degree.

Eventhubs is one of, if not the best SF4 news site on the net. The site is frequently updated, in addition to easy access to useful info such as frame data. I can see lots of effort have been put in by the site op.

Now only if the users base here is half as decent. This site has all the worst whining scrubs you could ever find. I wouldn't want to hang out with all these whining dumpster rats above me if it weren't for the great news and events/live stream info here provide. What a shame. Such a shame.

^ what he said. Kudos.

@whinerhubs (lol)

It's the price to pay for an open environment of commenting.

I would just take the garbage posters less seriously. I would never judge a site by its posting base, because then I would hate every website ever.

@#7/whinerhubs_com:

Maybe true, but whining about whining is double the fail.

Clovr4Lyf - on the Hakan question, I think the damage will be whatever it was when the move began, I dont think he can dry up in the middle of a move that would be too difficult to program for - move aspects cant change after its initiated, or else its not the same move.

I could have sworn they said El Fuerte went up to 950 health, which would make this chart wrong.

T Hawk doesn't have 1150?

i wont lie i find it a bit insulting that Adon has the same life as Juri... Juri should be 900.

Swore I had 1150. Oh well.. wouldn't make sense to have more than Gief tbh.

Even though I have been waiting a year to play Hawk... Zangief is and always will be... the king of grapplers. In any game.

All this stuff that eventhubs puts they don't even check to see if its correct, 50% of these ratings are incorrect.

If only they had a reliable source for the information like KMasters the leading authority on SSF4 stamina ratings.

Thanks for the support!

Wait a minute...I thought I read in some of these annoucements that T.Hawk's stamina was 1150 while El Fuerte went up to 950?

These were some changes a few months ago before the final edit copy.

T.Hawk 1150 B4 1100 Now
Blanka 1050 B4 1000 Now
Sagat 1000 B4 1050 Now
Gouken 1050 B4 1000 Now
Guy 950 B4 1000 Now
Elf 950 B4 900 Now

@7 whinerhubs_com

Stop your whining. Your ruining eventhubs with your tears.

For those people who say this is inaccurate, I encourage you to do your own tests, you'll find these numbers are correct.

Also, I believe a lot of the numbers released earlier about the stamina changes were either from early builds of the game, or just from people who didn't accurately gather this information.

Interesting. I kinda wish a lot of the people sitting on 900 got boosted to 950, but oh well. It all looks fair to me.

Glad to see Guy getting some love. Can't wait to play him!

They nerf damage and then nerf health too? all this is benefiting is the middle class. Which I don't particularly mind being that I'll be maining Guy.

Only one way to find out if this is all accurate. Come Tuesday, I'm gonna check out every fighter's health in Training Mode.

I think el fuerte still has 950 hit points in the final build, anyone who already has the game could confirm this?

Lots of people got nerfs here, not happy about getting 50 off but it could have been worse some took a 100 hit. You should be happy if you didnt take any nerf here, its a pretty big advantage considering the attack damage nerfs as well.

Dudley has above average health AND stun!? Okay capcom -_-

Yea dudley looks studley, I seen some videos, he does some mad damage and doesnt look slow either. I dont really see a weakness, he has good anti air and ways around projectiles too.

@BlankaBeast Dudley's gameplay and every advantage he arbitrarily has is based off the popularity he had when they started to implement him.

Glad to see Gief and Hawk equalized. No reason Hawk should be stronger than Gief. As for Sagat, The King must have been testing lower than S tier and they wanted him to remain up/near the top of the board. I'm not sure what Capcom ultimately wants to make of Gouken though. For a character who is both Ken and Ryu's master and Gouki's brother, he sure doesn't play as one of the best in the game. I know they want to make all the Shotos as different as possible, but I really think he should have gotten a dragon punch like the rest of the Shoto family.

An aside, have many of you seen the constant debate about Dudley's race? He's either Indian British or African British. Seems logical to me. However, there are many people who disgusted with the notion that he is African British. I really wonder why. Thoughts?

@Rudyhorse im glad gouken has no DP. lol scrubby shotos would just line up to use him. i do agree that he should be a tad higher but im ok with what i got. peace :) (btw i main gouken)

@Randyhorse ur guess is as good as mine on the whole dudley thing. we can point the finger at racism but it'll be too easy plus we're gonna need some solid proof if it is indeed racism.

Gee, I hope these aren't accurate. What happened to ElF's stamina buff? He (among others) really needed it.
With stuff like this, I seriously think Capcom has no interest in really balancing the game. Oh well, I'm still getting it day 1 :)