In an interview with VideoGamer.com, Yoshinori Ono once again stated he feels like Super Street Fighter 4 would be worth the full price for the game. This piece goes on to say that a few different ways, but towards the end he offers a hint at who could be added as future DLC.
Despite the decision to release Super as a disc-based game, Ono said that "it's completely possible" for new characters to be made available as DLC in the future. As for what characters may be up for inclusion, Ono refused to offer any details. He did, however, reveal that Final Fight's Haggar is not top of the list.
"Technically, it's completely possible," he said. "If I hear many voices of people saying, 'come on, update the game in 2011, add a character or two', I could. But in that case I wouldn't put Haggar in, it would be Hugo!"
It's worth noting that Ono pushed for Rolento and R. Mika in Super Street Fighter 4, but those characters didn't make the final cut.
Also Ono is interviewed again on GamesRadar. He doesn't really offer anything new here, he simply states what the development team will or won't add to the arcade release of Super Street Fighter 4 is up in the air.
Thanks to Mustain and Clovr4Lyf for pointing out these stories.
Posted by willrobinson on April 14, 2010 at 3:49 p.m. #1
I'd love to see Q get added, but I'm sure that'll never happen. Still, give me Hugo, Rolento, OR R. Mika and I certainly won't complain
Posted by J on April 14, 2010 at 3:54 p.m. #2
I'd rather have Q, but Hugo is cool too.
They better be free though.
Posted by ShadowKnight28 on April 14, 2010 at 3:55 p.m. #3
This would be the sick. Hugo and Alex in SSF4T. Get some more grapplers in there to provide some more gameplay variety. Add in Rolento and Elena, like he previously said, and that would make me very happy.
Posted by RyuSpirit on April 14, 2010 at 3:56 p.m. #4
Rolento is a must add, theres alot of wrestler already so R. mika its not that necesary, Hugo in the other hand is a boring character, they should add Karin or Alex they are better seriously
Posted by AnarchoElk on April 14, 2010 at 3:58 p.m. #5
The idea of Turbo as DLC adding in the extras for a "Turbo" edition of the game is a great idea, a few chars, stages, rebalancing for the addition of the characters, etc would be awesome. Just give an option at the main menu for SSF4 or SSF4 Turbo, so you can play both for people who don't want to update, so you can still play with them.
Posted by MIRACLEfool on April 14, 2010 at 3:59 p.m. #6
@2
Free? You're kidding right?
Posted by mcfizzle on April 14, 2010 at 3:59 p.m. #7
bah leave it alone. No DLC characters.
Posted by PainKiller on April 14, 2010 at 4 p.m. #8
jesus.....hugo is taller then t hawk, only chun-li and bison would be able to jump across him lol
Posted by JJOR64 on April 14, 2010 at 4:06 p.m. #9
Hugo or Alex would be awesome in Super 4.
Posted by SpartanIzzy on April 14, 2010 at 4:11 p.m. #10
YANG YANG YANG!!!
Posted by SpartanIzzy on April 14, 2010 at 4:12 p.m. #11
OR ROLENTO xD
Posted by derpsauce on April 14, 2010 at 4:12 p.m. #12
Who actually wants Haggar in? All Haggar does is piledrive people anyway, just play Gief and use his alternate and it's the same thing.
Posted by jaysenedwinward on April 14, 2010 at 4:13 p.m. #13
This makes me happy. I HATE rolento but R.Mika and Elena make my day. And Hugo is the man. (i hate haggar)
Posted by GrimmjawJin on April 14, 2010 at 4:13 p.m. #14
Elena and R.Mika/Alex along with balance patch in 2011! I would absolutely pay for that.
Posted by xiixserj3xiix on April 14, 2010 at 4:14 p.m. #15
ssf4 dlc give us Alex and Elena...
Posted by JasonLee on April 14, 2010 at 4:16 p.m. #16
Hugo!
Posted by AnarchoElk on April 14, 2010 at 4:16 p.m. #17
@mcfizzle
DLC "characters" would be lame.
But I would much rather pay a lower DLC price for a Turbo update than pay full price for SSF4T with the same additions.
It's just like how the editions for arcades were upgrades on the original code. I think this is a smart way to go through different editions of a game, so long as they allow you to choose the older edition.
Posted by J on April 14, 2010 at 4:16 p.m. #18
@6
Charging for new characters would be senseless. First off, you'd need to download them anyway if you want to play the game against people who DO have them, and secondly: people who'd buy the new characters would have an unfair advantage over people who don't want or can't buy them.
Posted by ricefarmer on April 14, 2010 at 4:18 p.m. #19
nobody is asking for hugo wtf man
Posted by Wardog on April 14, 2010 at 4:20 p.m. #20
Bring Sean and Charlie.
Posted by CammyLionHeart on April 14, 2010 at 4:24 p.m. #21
@ricefarmer
I agree
Posted by GameTrekker on April 14, 2010 at 4:28 p.m. #22
A perfect pack with a balance of male and female fighters from two games would be R.Mika, Rolento, Elena and... Q. Gotta be Q. Hugo is just too gigantic; T.Hawk seems to me to already be pushing the limits of how the SF4 engine handles limbs in character-nonspecific animations.
I am a big fan of Q, though, and dearly desire to see him in Super.
Posted by JayMed on April 14, 2010 at 4:33 p.m. #23
Karin or Necro plz!
Posted by Waynehead on April 14, 2010 at 4:33 p.m. #24
Rolento replacing one of the 2 please?
Posted by hugeratjar on April 14, 2010 at 4:35 p.m. #25
#18 i agree if u dont have the dlc and the other guy does isnt that unfair to the person who doesnt have it.seems kinda odd for dlc .. =/
Posted by RPGsFTW on April 14, 2010 at 4:35 p.m. #26
Yes! Please add Hugo. He is one of the most unique grapplers, moveset-wise for sure, I've ever seen. He is also amazingly fun.
In all honesty, I think that Hugo and Alex might be more fun than Hakan, and I wanna try my hands with maining Hakan.
<3 Hugo
Posted by yugo on April 14, 2010 at 4:35 p.m. #27
I DON'T LIKE HUGO.. THERE ARE A LOT OF WRESTLERS..
KARIN IS THE BEST OPTION!!!
Posted by Dannyunltd on April 14, 2010 at 4:36 p.m. #28
Hugo!? boo I want Urien or Yun!
Posted by zUkUu on April 14, 2010 at 4:38 p.m. #29
i think rolento and yun would be most likely as a dlc char. r mika and hugo since ono likes em. but rly. i would bet we'll see yun in sf4 enigne.
Posted by Lolento on April 14, 2010 at 4:39 p.m. #30
@#22 good point about general animations. Rufus and Zangief already have many weird positions (like arms disappearing inside their bodies) in SF4, an even bigger character would only make it more noticeable.
Plus I prefer Q, too.
Posted by LearningFast on April 14, 2010 at 4:42 p.m. #31
WE WANT ELENA NOT HUGO
ELENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and maybe Karin too
Posted by tortoos on April 14, 2010 at 4:43 p.m. #32
No Haggar huh? That's kinda sad. Now that there's Dudley, the only character dream match I have left to see is zangief vs haggar. Oh well. Hugo wouldn't be bad. He's a fun play but I think I'd prefer alex. We have a lot of straight up grapplers now, I'd like the headbutting brawling style alex has to mix things up grappler wise, kind of how el fuerte does. Though being frank, the character I want most in the game at this point is Q. I personally don't see why people want karin, you already have sakura. That's one schoolgirl, and ibuki is another. Regardless, I doubt urien will be added since he's far later in the timeline so I wouldn't get your hopes up for him.
Posted by TGSK on April 14, 2010 at 4:44 p.m. #33
I'm not surprised if they decide to add Yun/Yang in the game. They already have the basic things like Dive kick, Rekkas, custom combo engine (Genei-jin). I don't want hugo, too many grapplers if we add Hakan. We need Rolento!
Posted by tortoos on April 14, 2010 at 4:45 p.m. #34
One last thing I forgot to add. I pray Elena is never added. She's incredibly annoying to fight and it's not like she's that much of a threat. Dancing is not a fighting style QED.
Posted by Taxattack123 on April 14, 2010 at 4:46 p.m. #35
I would like to see Alex from third strike in ssf4. That would be pretty cool. Hugo would be interesting, but then he would have to be taken out of the back round of the construction stage.
Posted by Hyperbomb69 on April 14, 2010 at 4:49 p.m. #36
If they put HUGO in there they HAVE TO PUT ALEX WITH HIM!!
Posted by Kuei on April 14, 2010 at 4:50 p.m. #37
Hugo vs. Zangief vs. T. Hawk vs. Hakan vs. El Fuerte vs. E. Honda. Now that would be a match to see
Posted by Lolento on April 14, 2010 at 4:54 p.m. #38
@#37
I suggested months ago a game with this cast:
Abel, Alex, E.Honda, El Fuerte, Hakan, Hugo, T.Hawk, Zangief
SF WWF EDITION
Posted by Psycho on April 14, 2010 at 5:11 p.m. #39
new characters would be completely free cuase it makes sense
Posted by Os on April 14, 2010 at 5:13 p.m. #40
Great, Good news, i hope they bring us some stages for FREE and 2, 3 or 4 characters via DLC.
For stages i would like to see:
- a forest
- SFA2 Australia
- akumas cave
- a rooftop
Characters i would like to see:
- Rolento
- Remy
- 2 new characters
PLUS: An option to choose beetween Stage music or Character music BEFORE A MATCH BEGINS in VS mode
Posted by Yggdrasil_404 on April 14, 2010 at 5:29 p.m. #41
For me, the only character that I wanted to see in the game but did not appear is Karin. I really don't know why they didn't put her in the game. :/
I mean, for I can remember... Karin along with Cody and Charlie were the most fun characters to play with, at least for me. Not to mention that she's is the rival of Sakura.
What a waste opportunity there Capcom. Also, SSFIV doesn't need more grapplers!
Posted by Triforce on April 14, 2010 at 5:31 p.m. #42
Urien and Gill if it's not too early to work them into the story would be awesome, especially Gill.
Honestly wouldn't mind ANY unadded chars from Alpha or 3S though.
Posted by RC on April 14, 2010 at 5:32 p.m. #43
HAMMER MOUNTAIN!!!
Posted by BlackBear on April 14, 2010 at 5:34 p.m. #44
why the hell would they not put yun and or YANG
Posted by SomeDude on April 14, 2010 at 5:34 p.m. #45
I'm really hoping that,if they're gonna add more alpha characters,the first 'wave' Rolento and Karin.
3S wise,I'm hoping for atleast Alex/Elena but Q/Hugo/Urien/Oro are just as welcome.
Posted by RisingStar on April 14, 2010 at 5:41 p.m. #46
Rolento, r. mika, karin, elena, hugo, oro, DO IT!!!
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 5:51 p.m. #47
@#18:
It wouldnt be senseless to charge for dlc. It would cost Capcom time and mony to add additional content and that would be passed on to the consumer.
@ricefarmer: I agree also, but I like Hugo.
@tortoos#34:
Whatever man. Read the boards. Most people want ELENA.
Alex, Rolento, and Q are popular too.
Honestly, new and original characters and stages would be ideal.
@OS#41:
Good stage suggestions.
Posted by BlankaBeast on April 14, 2010 at 5:51 p.m. #48
Technically, it's completely possible to make a PC version, PC FTW!
Posted by EDGEucator on April 14, 2010 at 5:51 p.m. #49
DO IT THIS SUMMER ONO!!! PLEASE , HUGO MY FAVORITE CHARACTER!
Posted by RyuSpirit on April 14, 2010 at 5:53 p.m. #50
if theres 2 spots
SF ALPHA
rolento
Karin
3 STRIKE
ALEX
Elena
or why just not make an official poll :/
Posted by Guile on April 14, 2010 at 5:53 p.m. #51
definitely make Rolento number 1 on the add list
Really consider Birdie. Just imagine how well Birdie would translate into SF4, his chain moves would just look phenomenal in SF4. Plus, SF4 engine translates grappler characters very well too overall. I mean a lot of people thought T hawk was relatively lame back in SF2 (he was one of the least popular cast members), but look how cool he turned out in SSF4.
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 5:55 p.m. #52
An official (or unofficial) poll is a good idea.
???Eventhubs???
Posted by WinstonChurchill on April 14, 2010 at 5:55 p.m. #53
Skullomania and Oro!!! Hahaha
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 5:56 p.m. #54
@Guile#53: You are right. Based on that theory though, Elena would be amazing to see in 2.5d.
Posted by RyuSpirit on April 14, 2010 at 5:58 p.m. #55
MAKE A POLL EVENTHUBS!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LearningFast on April 14, 2010 at 6:01 p.m. #56
Elena would win any poll having to do with DLC for two reasons
1) She was crazy good in 3rd strike
2) Her combos would fit prefectly with SSF4
3) She is the true kicking queen not Juri >>
Posted by LearningFast on April 14, 2010 at 6:02 p.m. #57
3 I mean lol
Posted by pickboy97 on April 14, 2010 at 6:02 p.m. #58
I always wanted to see Alex vs. Abel and although the support level is low I would like Remy to make the cut ! But Im with everyone else whos wanting Elena in SS4 !
Posted by BedtimeShoryuken on April 14, 2010 at 6:04 p.m. #59
dont really care about returning characters, i am more interested in new original characters
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 6:08 p.m. #60
@BedtimeShoryuken:
"dont really care about returning characters, i am more interested in new original characters"
Finally, something I can absolutely agree with!!!
Posted by SomeDude on April 14, 2010 at 6:12 p.m. #61
Forgot to mention the retro stages I'd like to see:
Vega's classic Spain stage.
Cammy's A3 Greece stage.
Ryu's A2/3 stage.
Sakura's A2 stage.
New stages-ideas I'd like to see:
- In front of a waterfall (with animals coming to drink the water or something..with a Blanka cameo and,when Blanka's fighting on the stage,a Dan cameo - whose looking for Blanka).
- A metro city-like stage (where you're surrounded by thugs (final fight cameos optional)and they're cheering for the guy they bet on and in the 2nd they could be fighting each other..3rd stage they'd all be ko :P).
Posted by AceKillah on April 14, 2010 at 6:17 p.m. #62
only Gill Yang and Yun and Alex are worthy to be in SSF4
karin=lame
rolento= was just boring
hugo= more than enough grapplers
Charlie =......id hate to say it but Charlie IS dead
now for stages id would love dudley's 3rd strike stage and alex's stage
Posted by DestinyZX1 on April 14, 2010 at 6:17 p.m. #63
To #63
I agree as well. New characters with some unique styles would be interesting.
Posted by RyuSpirit on April 14, 2010 at 6:21 p.m. #64
wowww i dont know why noone has think about the sf alpha sagat stage with the huge woman statue that stage is awesome as vega spain cage
Posted by Charlie on April 14, 2010 at 6:27 p.m. #65
Ingrid please.
Posted by Wardog on April 14, 2010 at 6:27 p.m. #66
Sean, Charlie and Alex.
Posted by RyuSpirit on April 14, 2010 at 6:27 p.m. #67
the sf alpha 2 ryu vs sagat stage with the grass flying ans raining its pretty cool too
Posted by codename_yun on April 14, 2010 at 6:30 p.m. #68
lol @ #67, you mean the buddha statue?
Posted by fresco4eva on April 14, 2010 at 6:32 p.m. #69
necro... necro... necro...
ps... and i didnt even play 3s, just like watching pino or whatever his name is play necro...
Posted by Rorshock520 on April 14, 2010 at 6:42 p.m. #70
I'd like Q and Twelve...
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 6:50 p.m. #71
Lets do a stage poll for DLC also!
Favorite stage ever:
http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/Arcade/St...
Other good ones:
Ryu alpha. http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/...
and Gen Alpha.
http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/...
SF3 Ibuki:
http://www.gamemanx.com/forum/videoth...
Finally, I also like the stage in Street fighter 3 with the rain falling near the dock. I think it's Kens stage. Not sure. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia...
Check out:http://www.mugenation.com/index.php/cat=stages for a few more stages
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 6:52 p.m. #72
@RyuSpirit:
your talking about the Australia stage. check out post#75.
Posted by SephirothinHD on April 14, 2010 at 6:59 p.m. #73
No MORE GRAPPLERS!
Posted by Adjacent on April 14, 2010 at 7:03 p.m. #74
Wouldn't they have to make it 3 characters to keep the select screen balanced?
Posted by CONSTvariable23 on April 14, 2010 at 7:10 p.m. #75
@#59/LearningFast:
I think the real reason has more to do with her being a long legged, flexible, fun-loving warrior princess who fights in a bikini. Not that I'm complaining.
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 7:15 p.m. #76
@SephirothinHD:
More grapplers (like Abel, Alex) and less weird cartoony wrestlers (like Hugo, Zangief, R. Mika, Birdie, Sodom, etc.)
Brazilian Jiu -Jitsu, Krav-Maga, or Sambo would be cool.
Posted by RandomJohn on April 14, 2010 at 7:15 p.m. #77
It would of been cool to add Rolento. I liked him CvS2.
Posted by Justinbehungry on April 14, 2010 at 7:17 p.m. #78
I agree no more grapplers.
crapplers.
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 7:26 p.m. #79
No more grapplers? ok how about a dozen more fireball shotos?
I think the answer is neither; new and original characters instead!
Posted by RMC on April 14, 2010 at 7:30 p.m. #80
Where's Sodom? He was my favorite Alpha character : a mix between Zangief and Fei Long! Plus he looks like Optimus Prime!
Posted by Shanic on April 14, 2010 at 7:30 p.m. #81
Argh...More females please, not grapplers or more shotos.
It'd be cool if they mixed it up a bit and brought someone unexpected... hmmm
Posted by chickenwings on April 14, 2010 at 7:38 p.m. #82
The last thing i honestly want to see is more characters. Balance needs to take proirty and they will be hard pressed to make sure every character is tournament worthy, look how long it took for hdr and still certain characters are just insanely hard to win with(although a gief beat valle at one of the last tournaments).
And IF we get more dlc characters what happens to the communtiy? They will most likely charge and what does that mean for peopel that dont buy them?
but when it comes to characters its easy. Rolento is in and mika is in. Hugo would be solid too(we do need more grapplers GET OVER IT, there should be more then 3 choices for that style of play), but what we really need is more charge characters.
Posted by cyburn on April 14, 2010 at 7:42 p.m. #83
oooh hellz no. Don't waste a slot on that moron. I want them to add cool characters, man. I don't want no more ugly characters. Screw Hugo and screw R Mika. I say, Rolento, evil ryu and Maki. (MAKI, NOT MIKA. they're different characters.)
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 14, 2010 at 7:43 p.m. #84
Shoe ins: Sean(Cause 2i is starting soon from what all the fan boys are saying), Karin(Cause I rather see Her be Sakura's rival), R Mika(Udon SF4 comics showed her before Ibuki and I'm a fan), Rolento(Could fit into the Abel/Gulie/Charlie story), Birdie(Udon SF4 comic), Maki(to complete the final fight set)
Long shots:JOE(A mix of Adon and Deejay), Eagle OR GEKI(playing like a hybrid between Claw and Ibuki), Human Necro!
Posted by HarkMammil on April 14, 2010 at 8:02 p.m. #85
@Ex_Ein:
what is 2i?
Posted by powderedtoastman on April 14, 2010 at 8:07 p.m. #86
2i= 2nd impact ... ya know the second game in sf3 series. I believe that's what hes referring too.
Posted by Devil on April 14, 2010 at 8:25 p.m. #87
OMG! Please Capcom! Put Hugo in! We can have one of the best dream fights of all times! Hugo vs Zangief!
Posted by Dan_CiTi on April 14, 2010 at 8:25 p.m. #88
I'd be all for adding two more alpha and two more SF3 characters. Rolento & Karin and Elena & Alex(or Hugo I guess) would be ideal.
Posted by ShinobiShiranui on April 14, 2010 at 8:38 p.m. #89
@59 & 74
YES!!!! Bring my beautiful, adoreable Elena as DLC to Super Street Fighter IV. She was close too being added. I would love to see Elena really and second character, I really do not carel can be anyone =^). Please Elena. She has my vote and yes she's the real kicking queen!!!!=^D
Elena's movelist
-Scratch Wheel (EX)
-Rhino Horn (EX)
-Mallet Smash (EX)
-Lynx Tail (EX)
-Spin Scythe (EX)
Super-Healing or Spinning Beat
Ultra I-Spinning Beat with a more hits involved or a completely new using the Lynx Tail; maybe called "Warrior's Rave"
Ultra II-Brace Dance
Posted by DarkBurialX on April 14, 2010 at 8:39 p.m. #90
I want Ingrid in the game or in my opinion, I would love if Capcom can add another boxer character since SSF4 has two boxers Balrog(M.Bison) and Dudley.
Posted by Mambo_Sauce on April 14, 2010 at 9:05 p.m. #91
even if the characters are added as DLC, when ur not online it doesnt let u use ur dlc...or is it just me who cant use my alt costumes when not connected online???
Posted by EDGEucator on April 14, 2010 at 9:23 p.m. #92
@91 YES I KNOW!
Posted by RyuSpirit on April 14, 2010 at 9:33 p.m. #93
i couldnt be more agree #92!!!!
Posted by Aftermath1349 on April 14, 2010 at 9:39 p.m. #94
I too would love to see Q in the inevitable "update". Oro would be nice too but that is more or less guaranteed to never happen.
Posted by Joseph on April 14, 2010 at 9:40 p.m. #95
Elena, Q, Alex, Necro are awesome! For some reason I think Remmy would be really cool too...
Posted by CMAyhem on April 14, 2010 at 10:03 p.m. #96
way too many wrestlers!!!
Posted by Put_Elena_in_SF on April 14, 2010 at 10:05 p.m. #97
It's time for Elena. Seriously. #1 most wanted character now after the characters added in SSF4. Elena as DLC, Capcom!
Posted by ratedRsuperstar on April 14, 2010 at 10:16 p.m. #98
im with 83 no more grapplers/shotos. New Characters is whats needed
Posted by BisonBetterBeGoodInSSF4 on April 14, 2010 at 10:18 p.m. #99
plaese plaese plaese plaese please put Urien in. please please please please lol. seriously
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 14, 2010 at 10:26 p.m. #100
@103/Bison
I want Urien I just hope they drop the Aegis Shenanigans
Posted by CharlieNash on April 14, 2010 at 10:30 p.m. #101
Why should we believe anything this guy says? He spews crap out of his mounth everytime he opens it. First he tells us it's R. Mika that's his first option should a new character be released, then he goes to Rolento and now Hugo? I think he's just trying to create hype and give hope to fans that want their favorite character.
Posted by Cowman715 on April 14, 2010 at 11:02 p.m. #102
Enough grapplers... abel has enough problems as it is with 3 lol
Posted by MrTanooki on April 14, 2010 at 11:07 p.m. #103
Well they already have the character model for Hugo, might as well just add in some attack animations and put him in.
Posted by Justinbehungry on April 14, 2010 at 11:08 p.m. #104
Elena, Urien, Oro, R. Mika, Karin, or D Dark.
Posted by chickenwings on April 14, 2010 at 11:16 p.m. #105
wow.
we have gief, t hawk and hakan(u can even argue able and honda since they have command slams). Thats too many grapplers? We have how many quarter circle/dp motion charatcers? Seriously now
Posted by Fro on April 14, 2010 at 11:24 p.m. #106
Oro for ssf4
Posted by hugeratjar on April 14, 2010 at 11:42 p.m. #107
how bout.. no 1 :D
Posted by KenScrub on April 14, 2010 at 11:42 p.m. #108
Rainbow Mika for SSFIV go go go!
Posted by Guybrush on April 14, 2010 at 11:56 p.m. #109
C'mon Capcom! Give us Rolento, Elena, R. Mika, Karin and Urien!!
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 15, 2010 at midnight #110
@CharlieNash
He wanted R Mika doesn't mean we were going get her(especially since they're going to have to work out clipping issues with the breast as well as jiggle and how much of a pain it is to do her outfit in 3D)He's just mentioning that if someone was going to make it as DLC it would be Hugo
Posted by RisingStar on April 15, 2010 at 12:10 a.m. #111
Q is kinda cool but is basically balrog so i dont want him in...
Posted by Alrd on April 15, 2010 at 12:16 a.m. #112
Skullomania
Posted by zero2269 on April 15, 2010 at 12:23 a.m. #113
damn another damn grabing bit!@#$ come!! on
wat happen to street fighter hand to hand combat, special powers... street fighter is turning into a wwe game >.> -_-
COME ON!!!
Posted by Prophet on April 15, 2010 at 12:30 a.m. #114
Hey Eventhubs, hey Catalyst, PLEASE make a Poll about "who do you want in SSF4?" that would be great!
Eventhubs is one of the most viewed SF-sites on the net and i would love to see who would be on top.
In my opinion, Alex and Necro would be great. Hugo would also be cool cause i likes the design of him, an you can CLAP PEOPLE TO DEATH! xD
Posted by Prophet on April 15, 2010 at 12:54 a.m. #115
CLAP PEOPLE TO DEATH!
Just remember!
Posted by SomeDude on April 15, 2010 at 1:51 a.m. #116
@ 119
First,people were complaining that SSF4 wasn't DLC and now people,like you,are complaining about DLC?
lol.
well if by ''some players'' you mean casual players then I'm pretty sure that they don't really care if ''some characters'' got added (casual tend to stick with shoto's anyways..).
For people that didn't see their favourite character get in,DLC is the way to go.
*4 months later*
SSF4T announced!
- WHY ISNT THIS DLC blablabla.
Posted by daltronica on April 15, 2010 at 2:05 a.m. #117
yeah Eventhubs, get an official Poll up and running. DLC characters are very possible, id pay good money for a Hugo or sean.. I keep hearing about how this game is made for fans, based on their opinions, but where do you go to get your opinion across?
Posted by jackpot69 on April 15, 2010 at 2:07 a.m. #118
1 year update after SSF4 release and they only give us 2 characters? No way. That need include at last 4 characters! But I `m scared about what characters they want including.
The perfect selection from me will be:
Elena, Alex, Karin and other REALLY popular character.
What scare me?
The “Ono`s like that characters list”, at this moment Mika & Rolento is a instant not buy from me.
What disappoint me?
Another bunch of “nice and possible top tier movements set” in a crap characters design
Like Ruffus, el fuerte, hakan or copy and paste “look alike Angelina Jolie” Mhe!
Posted by Super_Shoto_Fighter_4 on April 15, 2010 at 2:08 a.m. #119
I'd like to see Rolento:
Knife throw will make a great vortex game similar to Ibuki and Akuma.
Also Rainbow Mika:
A female grappler that isn't your generic big guy. Elena wouldn't e bad either. Someone from a differnt country for change instead just US and Japan lol.
Karin is a cool character but there's enough 'Jail Bait' rush down characters in the game.
Posted by Pusha_T on April 15, 2010 at 3:44 a.m. #120
Rolento would be a welcome addition. I'd like to see Hugo but there's already enough grapplers.
R.Mika- Nay
Karin- Nay
Elena- Meh
Sean- haven't we got enough shotos. Why add another one.
Urien and oro wouldn't be bad.
Posted by yudhiyou on April 15, 2010 at 4:21 a.m. #121
I hope the PC version of SSFIV is the complete version of all available DLC. It is welcome to us as PC players to pay more than console version for the complete version.
Posted by xShonuffx on April 15, 2010 at 4:35 a.m. #122
@2 Free is the very reason why they WON't put out DLC characters, so forget it. I'll pay just don't kill my wallet thats all.
Posted by Conjurata on April 15, 2010 at 4:56 a.m. #123
LETS GET HUGO AND BIRDIE ralento and R.mika are cooll BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HUGO AND BIRDIE COMEBACK DOES ANYONE AGREE
Posted by drunkendan on April 15, 2010 at 5:54 a.m. #124
I hope the additions are R.mika Hugo karin Elena and Rolento if they are made of course
Posted by juanrock on April 15, 2010 at 6:46 a.m. #125
i think making dlc characters is the way to go, if they want to release a full game they will have to add like 10 new characters and 45 would be a bit too much for a balanced game like street fighter 4
but i have to say, i love the idea of having new characters
Posted by purifyweirdsoul on April 15, 2010 at 6:53 a.m. #126
WTB Karin/Rolento.
Posted by pablo on April 15, 2010 at 7:29 a.m. #127
I main Zangief so I'll love to get to play with Hugo however Hugo has always been able to parry so it will be a whole different Hugo. I agree to have anyone from SF III like Oro and Urien I guess Elena will defenetly make it but if I were to make the call I'll add Street Fighter Ex Plus characters like Craker Jack and Shadow Geist but thats just 1 Costa Rica's guy thoughts.
Posted by Funkenstein23 on April 15, 2010 at 8:13 a.m. #128
I would love to see Mika, Karin and Hugo. I love playing grapplers so Mika and Hugo, and Karin just because she's awesome. Rolento would also be pretty cool.
Posted by DatTimmy on April 15, 2010 at 8:50 a.m. #129
12, Urien, and Q would be awesome additions in my opinion if they found a way to balance them for SSIV.
Posted by UnTi on April 15, 2010 at 9:21 a.m. #130
I'd like to see Poison, not Hugo... She'd be a "new" fighter, but Capcom wouldn't have to create from the scratch! Karin, Rolento, Alex e Elena are almost "unanimous"... Besides, I know what we DON'T need: another "caricature" fighter! If they do something new, I'd like to see another projectile oriented character (chargeable would be PERFECT), maybe one with projectiles going through the ground, like Terry.
Posted by AcidGlow on April 15, 2010 at 9:22 a.m. #131
This would be awesome if they added Hugo. He was my one of 2 main characters in SvC Chaos and I love that game! XD
Throw in Alex and Yun+Yang for more different styles. Although I was really hoping Urien would make it. I wanted to see how people would use his reflector setups in SF4.
Posted by capetusco on April 15, 2010 at 9:26 a.m. #132
ROLENTO! ROLENTO! ROLENTO!
Posted by ScytheWP on April 15, 2010 at 9:48 a.m. #133
Definitely Urien, charge characters were neglected with the update of super, and he was awesome.
Had to pick a second...I guess Q. Only want Urien, but Q would satisfy others. We don't need another grappler, and I still don't understand why people want Karin.
Posted by RyuSpirit on April 15, 2010 at 12:34 p.m. #134
ADD KARIN SHES SO GREAT PLEASE!!
ALEX
ELENA
AND ROLENTO
No more sh1tty cartoon grapples
Posted by zero2269 on April 15, 2010 at 12:37 p.m. #135
NO MORE GRABING CHARACTERS!!! DAMN IT !!!! THIS IS ''STREET FIGHTERS'' NOT ''WWE''
Posted by f1ip on April 15, 2010 at 12:40 p.m. #136
capcom should just be random and put doctrine dark in there, i mean come on a swat team guy with knives and C4, AWESOME.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 15, 2010 at 12:43 p.m. #137
@Pusha
Sean isn't excatly a shoto his QCB kick work more like a tiger knee or Burning kick, His dragon smash doesn't share as many properties as a normal DP, Tackle is more of a Grappler move, and under normal circumstances he can't do a fireball(and in SF4's ex/super meter system you'll be lucky to see Hadouburst in every 1/10 offline or online matches with a Sean) and even then his ultras would probably be a choice between a Souless style version of Hyper Tornado where he has to land the first hit in order for the combo to start and a Shinkuu or Metsu Hadouburst
Posted by SomeDude on April 15, 2010 at 1:16 p.m. #138
@ ScytheWP
Then try using Karin in A3.
She's like a better version of Fei Long imo.
Her AA isn't great but she got the rekka/a sort of chickenwing/counters/some nice setups into Super and can apply pressure better than Fei Long (her rekka can attack high and low and launch opponents in the air > super).
I main FeiLong in SF4 but i'd drop him in a heartbeat for Karin.
Her appearance has nothing to do with why I want her in SSF4.
Btw I agree with the lack of charge characters in SSF4.
Posted by Wardog on April 15, 2010 at 1:25 p.m. #139
Bring Sean back.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 15, 2010 at 1:41 p.m. #140
@all grapller complainers!
counting everyone in SSF4 there are:
3 pure grapplers(Zang,T Hawk, Hakan)
6 people with grapple moves(Half Circle grabs,360s) but aren't only about the grapple moves(Seth, Makoto, Furete, Abel, Ibuki,Honda)
7 1/2 charge characters (Deejay, Chun, Dictator,Gulie, Blanka,Claw, Boxer and Gen in Crane)
6 shotos(including dan)
5 characters with projectiles who are neither shotos or charge or grapples (Cody,Dhals,Sagat,Rose,Juri)
7 1/2 charatcers without projectiles and aren't charges characters who have no grapples beside normal throw(Fei,Dudley,Cammy,Viper,Guy,Rufus Adon and Gen in Mantis)
There are two times as many charge characters then there are pure grapplers, we need hugo.
Posted by zero2269 on April 15, 2010 at 2:29 p.m. #141
NO MORE GRAPLE CHARACTERS!!!!!!
Posted by Pusha_T on April 15, 2010 at 2:41 p.m. #142
@141 - exactly I don't understand why there are so many shouts for Karin and really r.mika???? We've had enough clowns in the SF 4 series thanks.
@145/ex-ein - why have sean when we could have rolento, Hugo, alex, urien, oro . There are some characters that should remain in whichever series they were created and sean is one of em. Maybe we'll see him in SF 5.
Posted by RyuSpirit on April 15, 2010 at 2:54 p.m. #143
NO MORE SHTOS!!!!!!!
NO MORE GRAPPLERS!!!!! (OF ANY KIND)
WE NEED CHARACTERS WITH UNIQUE STYLE LIKE
ROLENTO, ELENA, KARIN
Posted by Funkenstein23 on April 15, 2010 at 3:01 p.m. #144
I haven't played Alpha in forever, didn't Karin have a command throw with a 360 motion?
Posted by HarkMammil on April 15, 2010 at 3:35 p.m. #145
@RyuSpirit#151:
Agree, mostly.
Any style ideas for completely new characters?
Whatever they do though, you know Capcom will put their own spin on it.
@Pusha_T#150:
Couldn't agree more man.
I always enjoy the more serious characters (Abel, Alex, Viper, Gouken, etc.) as opposed to the clown characters (Blanka, El Fuerte, etc.)
Sometimes it seems the only reason clown characters are in the game is for the serious characters to beat up on because they are rarely very good.
Posted by TRUEGOUKI on April 15, 2010 at 3:40 p.m. #146
i know everybody is tired of shotos.. but i would really like to see Oro, Shin akuma, n Evil ryu(since its the last time hell be in the SF series)
Posted by HarkMammil on April 15, 2010 at 3:46 p.m. #147
Oro would be alright but the problem with characters like Shin Akuma, Evil Ryu, and Charlie is that they are not that different from their counterparts/ similar characters. You could say the same about most shotos really.
Posted by Wardog on April 15, 2010 at 4:01 p.m. #148
They need to put in Sean, because his style is totally different from ken,ryu, akuma, dan and goken. so he's not another shoto characte.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 15, 2010 at 4:08 p.m. #149
@Pusha and Hark
First Pusha:
-Hugo is an intresting grappler but I don't like him
-Alex in my opinion a really unnessary character in SF4 since we have Abel AND Gulie both which take on aspects of his fighting style and personality/story
-Urien's normals have gone into Abel's normals(F.Mk, C.HP) and his specials were basically redesigned versions of Dictator's moves(Shoulder charge=Sissor kick& Psycho, Knee drop=Head Stomp)
-Oro is a good choice however story wise wouldn't work as Oro started looking for a person worthy enough to inherit his style in SF3.
However Sean story fits more into the timeline and this also where Hark comes in:
Sean in 2I was a beast nearly top tier then they for no reason other then complaints, nerfed him to be the worse against almost every other character but alex(who he has a 4-6 in alex's favor still), Karin is very strong when used correctly(much like Sakura in alpha and 4),Mika was good just no one took the time to get to know her really. Also Hark, Blanka is a strong character he dose decent damage, had great options, his story is just silly doesn't make him a clown character like Dan or Rufus whose meant to be funny.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 15, 2010 at 4:14 p.m. #150
@ Wardog
Har har har/sarcasm
the concept of Sean is expressed through Ken in the SF3 series, Ken in attempting to train Sean make his own style using the shoto style as a base, that's what the developers were shooting for and my opinion succeeded, cause I like his Atypical nature hat you can't use Shoto tactics and hope to win. I believe if they didn't nerf sean as bad as they did in 3rd strike and gave him a chance with 5/5 match ups the character would be considered less of a joke character and the new generation of SF characters like he actually is.
Posted by mr_e on April 15, 2010 at 4:33 p.m. #151
more rumors...great. this should get the community all hyped uped. well...i suppose an online poll would be nice to determine the character(s) add on. im not a big fan of grapplers but SF can use an extra one so hugo (or alex) should be considered. my vote goes to elena, rolento, alex & hugo. here's an idea for a new character...he (or she) should be a master at Shaolin kung fu. peace :)
Posted by mr_e on April 15, 2010 at 4:36 p.m. #152
i only have one suggestion for a charge character type...Urien
Posted by HarkMammil on April 15, 2010 at 4:54 p.m. #153
@Ex_Ein:
You make good points.
I played a lot of SF2 but mostly missed on SFIII (was playing VF and tekken) so i'll admit to not being that familiar with the game. I did use Elena though.
Another thing you are right about is Alex being a bit pointless due to Abel being in the game - I just really liked the character. Also, I agree, Blanka is silly and a silly looking but a serious character. Rufus is a total clown that makes me sick to even look at.
I come from the design side so I admire the strongly designed characters like Hugo and Elena, who had suberb animation. Also, Sean (who I don't really like) would be a good SF5 character due to the storyline.
All I really want is something original and new frankly - something unique like Hakkan.
Posted by HarkMammil on April 15, 2010 at 5:02 p.m. #154
@mr_e:
Good suggestions.
Shaolin Kun Fu would be cool.
Others:
- Drunken Kung Fu
- Russian Sambo
- Israeli Special forces Krav Maga
- Brazillian Jiu Jitsu, or Shoot boxing (not MMA)
- Pure street fighting, dirty boxing (no pun intended). Wait, I guess Cody already does this.
- Filipino martial arts
Just ideas. Of course Capcom would take those styles and Street Fighter-ize them. I mean, this isn't Virtua Fighter and I know it.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 15, 2010 at 5:06 p.m. #155
Hark,Abel uses Sambo...
Posted by HarkMammil on April 15, 2010 at 5:45 p.m. #156
@Ex_Ein
Maybe/ Kind of.
I train in traditional BJJ, and MMA (Sambo, Muy Thai,etc.)He dresses Sambo for sure but doesn't really use the guard, his feet, or any leg/body locks. I guess he does kind of fill those gaps though.
Dammit, quit being right today!
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 15, 2010 at 7:22 p.m. #157
You do MMA and BJJ that is different then just training in Sambo(which is actually rare% of grappling style used in MMA) The gaps you speak of aren't there if you just do Sambo(watch Sambosteve on youtube)
Posted by Funkenstein23 on April 15, 2010 at 7:43 p.m. #158
If were throwing in our hats on what new fighting styles shoot get in I'm saying krav maga all the way. it's a fast vicious grapple centered fighting style that, once it got street fighter-ized, would be amazing to play. Plus, Israeli men and women are trained in it equally so they could put in a tough-as-nails jewish military chick and it'd be legit. Sorry, geeking out a bit, I just think this would be pretty cool.
Posted by HarkMammil on April 15, 2010 at 10:35 p.m. #159
@Ex_Ein:
Do you disagree with me just to do it or what? When it comes to street fighter its one thing but martial arts disciplines? I know my sh**T. Cmon, just youtubing or wikiing about something is one thing. It's not rare, Fedor Emelianko, and some of the best Fighters in the word us it. It's just mostly a Russian and Eastern European discipline. The Russian army invented it and still teaches it for Abel's sake!
Posted by zero2269 on April 15, 2010 at 11:27 p.m. #160
EVIL RYU AND SHIN AKUMA FUKING AWSOME I WANNA SE THE ''MISOGI'' ON SSF4 VERSION WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Posted by chickenwings on April 16, 2010 at 1:06 a.m. #161
@harkmammil
drunken boxing would be great. I seen on another board someone suggested it and said he could use the same idea that hakan has. But instead of oiling up to increase power u drink. Now that would have been hilarious. And when u think about it, every fighting game franchise has one drunken boxing fighter(just like everyone has a bruce lee). Its about time we get a capcom versus. I could prob sit here and figure out his move set right now lol.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 16, 2010 at 1:59 a.m. #162
@Hark
Just cause Fedor uses it doesn't mean it's not rare..... don't believe me? how many MMA fighters us Sambo in any form you'll see it's like 5% out of a Heavily Greco-roman saturated field.
anyway dude you said it yourself you do MMA which means your trained in mutliple disciplines at once your not thinking of it in pure Sambo terms, I point to the videos to show what pure Sambo is on only Sambo rules not MMA rules
Posted by HarkMammil on April 16, 2010 at 2:43 a.m. #163
@Ex_Ein:
Actually, I did give it some thought.
Sambo is not rare. Maybe you just watch too much UFC garbage. It is the official fighting style developed by the Russian army and the most practiced style in the country.
No effective modern martial artist or MMA fighter uses one pure style anymore. Most MMA fighter use parts of Sambo and don't even know it. Sambo isn't even an original form and is derived from Judo, Karate, American wrestling, and other forms. It's a bit like Jui-Jitsu but with a bit more of an emphasis on leg locks and (in combat Sambo) dangerous submissions. Thats just to start. If you know what Jeet Kune Do really is, what Mr. Lee intended it to be, you could say that it's a practical version of that philosophy: an evolution of only the effective forms. Unlike, lets say, Kung Fu, in which all styles are modified to combat other impractical and obsolete styles to the point where it isn't even effective in a real situation.
Also, I'm thinking of Sambo in at least three terms. There are three basic types of Sambo; sport, freestyle and combat.
The point of this argument is to decide if Able is a Sambo character. Maybe he was but, other than looking like one, name one submission move that he does that resembles a Sambo move. His throw doesn't count - It's more of a Judo throw. The only thing that could work in your defense is that Capcom does take liberties with character styles and usually modifies them to the point that they are practically unrecognizable.
I'll show you a Sambo move when I meet you one day . . . But you'll have to give me 5 minutes to look it up a Sambosteve vid on youtube first. lol.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 16, 2010 at 4:17 a.m. #164
@Hark you missed my point at the start there...
I said and I'll repeat this one more time
"IN >>>MMA<<< Sambo based grappling is not that popular...I know as it's own style it's popular but in >>>MMA<<< it's not.
"
read that before posting again, I know that it's the biggest Martial art in Eastern Europe and Northen Asia
Let me point out another something else, "American Wrestling".....Do you mean Greco-Roman? cause there's no such style as American Wrestling beside "Pro" wrestling which came after the invention and deployment of SAMBO in the Ex Soviet Union, I know it's derived from Judo and such.
Why the rant on Jeet Kun Do, especially when you kinda missed the point, the philosophy was to take out traditional movements that seemed unnecessary and go the most direct route with smaller movements that can be changed on the fly to become more defensive. the Kung Fu you spoke of was still very deadly but very tradition based to the point it not meant to be taught to those outside of direct decedents,(so people would make the more showy imitations) again Bruce tossed out those principles when he taught friends using the method he made.
I know the types of SAMBO so don't try to give me a lesson on them.
You said it yourself SAMBO is derived from what Japanese Martial art? Start's with a J end's with an O, bad spy movies though it had strikes, when it's all about the throw mainly...The name...it escapes me.
Just take a look at this:
http://www.ehow.com/video_2367388_hip...
Look at that throw he dose the full real time throw now look at Abel's Back throw....LOOK FAMILIAR?
How about this:
http://www.ehow.com/video_2367375_for...
I have never ever seen a move like ever in Abel's moveset/Sarcasm
then theres this:
http://www.ehow.com/video_2367384_gri...
Give you a hint which move that first grip is:Tornado
These are basic that are on the internet dude and they're all in Abel's moveset. While his moveset is an extrapolated version of it there are some that have similar apperance to their real life counter parts.
I'm using Sambosteve as a point cause the man in the videos above is the Sambosteve on youtube
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 16, 2010 at 4:47 a.m. #165
And if you want to discredit it as SAMBO you might want to discredit Elena's style as Capoeria or Dudley and Boxer's boxing styles.
Or you could shut up and just accept that it's the closest street fighters getting to SAMBO just like Elena's the closest we're getting to Capoeira and the two boxers to Boxing.
It's just a game where people shoot fireballs out of their hands, mouths and can produce eletricity out of their body as well as cover themselves in Enegry called "Psycho Power". If it really bothers you make a game yourself with a better SAMBO based character, that or get into capcom and have Abel or a new character appear with a more true to real life moveset
Posted by HarkMammil on April 16, 2010 at 12:20 p.m. #166
@Sambo "Detective Wrestling Master" Ex_Ein:
Uhh . . .
Better drink my coffee before this reply.
Last one for you though.
You ever hear the expression " If you win an argument against an idiot, you are only winning an argument against an idiot?" Well neither one of us needs to be the idiot in this case. I've tried to keep civil debates with you but you and I've tried to give you credit where credit is due but you end up taking this all too personally and eventually end up insulting the person you don't agree with. Saying "shut up" just means your angry. Chill out man.
I come here for the community discussion. It's a small community Bro. By proxy, most of these people here are your friends. Sounds silly but go to a competition and all those people you meet/hang out with/ play against all come here.
Sometimes you have to know when to say when and I've already given you too much credit. Your pattern is to flame and troll anyone who disagrees with you, so from now on, if you cant make a valid point without being an arrogant troll about it, your not getting a response.
Posted by HarkMammil on April 16, 2010 at 12:21 p.m. #167
par 2: Here are my final (very clear) responses:
1.) You obviously don't know anything about Sambo man. Give it up. Internet vids and wikipedia don't make you an expert.
2.) I will try this again. Read carefully. You CAN look up the Tao Jeet Kune Do. Bruce Lee said that Jeet Kune Do is not a style but a philosophy that combines the most effective elements of any assimilated style. Sambo has the same basic philosophy which was is to only use the most effective elements of borrowed styles. Before he died, Bruce Lee started throwing out more Kung Fu and started using more American Boxing and Grappling techniques derived from Judo and American Greco Roman Styles. Look it up. It was evolving away from Kung Fu. This is What Brazilian Chute Boxing did and what all style must do to stay relevant and effective. Sambo, Jeet Kune Do, and modern Jiu-Jitsu do this. The is what MMA strives to be. THAT is the similarity and point.
3.) Your quote: "IN >>>MMA<<< Sambo based grappling is not that popular...I know as it's own style it's popular but in >>>MMA<<< it's not." - I already made this point but your not listening. Sambo is not widely used in AMERICAN MMA, but it's in there. Fedor Emelianenko is arguably the best pound for pound fighter in the world today. Do you know who he is? Others: Andrey Alrovski (some Sambo)
-Igor Vovchanchyn
-Vladimir Matyschenko
-Dennis Siver
-Sergei Kharitonov
-Aleksander Emelianenko
-Oleg Taktarov
-Viacheslav Datsik
-Sergei Kharitonov
-Karill Sidelnikov aka baby Fedor
-Mikhail Zayats
-Roman Zentsov
These are all MMA fighters. MMA doesn't mean U.S.A.
If you are talking about UFC, Strikeforce, etc. then it is under represented but by no means rare. Theys guys cross train and borrow styles anyway and many of the fusion styles DO contain a Sambo influence. What the heck do you think MMA means???
4.) Yes American wrestling is the blanket term for Greco Roman wrestling and used often in MMA and by fighters from other countries when describing the version of Greco Roman used in the USA. Of course I don't mean WWF.
5.) I WILL give you a Sambo lesson. "eHOW" doesn't make you an expert.
Side roll: This is the basic position taught in all grappling styles. It allows you to snake move into the guard or another defensive position.
Hip Throw: It's close but just look up a JUDO hip throw. Abel does a Judo hip throw.
Windmill throw=Sambo, Greco Roman=Fireman's Carry, Judo= Shoulder throw, Jiu-jitsu = shoulder or Fireman's. All the same move man. cross polination.
Posted by HarkMammil on April 16, 2010 at 12:22 p.m. #168
6. Your quote; "And if you want to discredit it as SAMBO you might want to discredit Elena's style as Capoeria or Dudley and Boxer's boxing styles.Or you could shut up and just accept that it's the closest street fighters getting to SAMBO just like Elena's the closest we're getting to Capoeira and the two boxers to Boxing."
My quote; " Capcom does take liberties with character styles and usually modifies them to the point that they are practically unrecognizable. "
YOU ARE MAKING MY POINT FOR ME! I know I'm not playin Virtua Fighter man. Please read what I say carefully before making an argument.I love that Steet Fighter doesn't take itself so seriously. It doesnt bother me at all that it is unreal.
And yes, I have worked on videogames but never a fighter just lame FPS's. Sure, I'll go make the worlds best fighting game and I will fill it full of a bunch of Abel clones that throw fireballs, no wait - they will tear out their jock straps and throw those. All the fighter will be Sambo - no I mean Judo, or Jiu-Jitsu, or Greco-Roman. Wait! They are all so similar compared to Abel that I'm confused!! . On second thought, I'll just go help Capcom make Saturday Night Slam Masters 2!
Heres Abel in SNSM2: http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/slam...
Abel (im my humble opinion) is Capcom's version of a MMA fighter with a skill set that has Judo, Greco Roman, and the infamous ground and pound style. He is a brawler-grappler man - with a Sambo outfit.
Ex Ein, I'll give you this- until you stop flaming and trolling people, I'm not even going to give you the courtesy of a civil response. Grow up man. It's ok to be wrong sometimes.
My Jiu-Jitsu teacher once told me something I will never forget: "While training, You learn more from losing than from winning. If you always try to win, you never improve."
Posted by mr_e on April 16, 2010 at 3:47 p.m. #169
@ HarkMammil good suggetions. it would be great to see somethin like that.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 16, 2010 at 4:32 p.m. #170
1.You dont know that for sure cause you only assume it from the way I speak to you and the examples I use
2.Not sure why your explaining what I explained partly about the Jeet Kun Do
What I said:"the philosophy was to take out traditional movements that seemed unnecessary and go the most direct route with smaller movements that can be changed on the fly to become more defensive."
What you said:
"Bruce Lee said that Jeet Kune Do is not a style but a philosophy that combines the most effective elements of any assimilated style."
You however expand that into SAMBO which I'll say okay whatever it's relvant
3.Again they only make up %5 of all modern professional MMA(WORLDWIDE) You list 13 well known names I know there' 400 other MMA fighters(amateur or pro) world wide who don't use SAMBO philosophy as the foundation of their fighting styles. NOT JUST USA BUT WORLD WIDE. So please stop thinking I'm just talking about the united states CAUSE I'M TALKING WORLD WIDE.
4. then GRECO-ROMAN is it hard to say Greco-roman Wrestling again I'm talking world wide.
5. Where did I said it made me an expert, where did i say this is how I learned SAMBO? I'm just showing how even videos you can find online which incorporate SAMBO philosophy based techniques, and those basics appear in Abel's style. his official profile says his fight style is Basic Judo with mixed martial arts sounds alot like?
6.Cause I agree with your point maybe not exactly disagring on the fact it's not 1;1 with the philosophies of SAMBO. It's good you worked on any video games it's better then working on none(I've worked on 3 titles for EA games, 2 gta clones and one hack and slash).That links broken.... I was just saying if you believe you can do one better do one better
The funny thing is this all started out of you stating you trained in SAMBO and BJJ, I simply pointed out that He doses use a SAMBO base and that you don't know which gaps he would have since you train in multiple disciplines at once and used a video I had of one of the heads of the US Sambo federation in order to give you reference on what to look for. and you jumped on me saying "I Know my sh** you just wiki and youtube everything" THAT'S DISRESPECTFUL. The thing is I can't prove my knowledge cause we have never met or fought and I don't think we ever will. You were "flaming" saying that to me.
Your BJJ instructor would be sadden by your actions you showed disrespect toward you enemy and based their knowledge on what you see them do and not what they might be capable of.
Look over this whole series of responses we've been having since I pointed out Abel's SAMBO you took the more aggressive route, I defended. I never disagreed with you on the principal that his style are loose based on SAMBO. you then attempt to laugh at my point of reference when I pointed you toward a liable source of information on the world of SAMBO. I didn't get mad I just felt sad for you like I do now.
Posted by HarkMammil on April 16, 2010 at 6:04 p.m. #171
@Ex_ein:
Jesus man. Your nuts. ha.
. . . .
I'll just say this - I hope Ea treated you fairly because they are mostly horrible to work for (Especially if you do contract work for them). A few of my buddies lost their jobs when they closed down in Culver City.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 16, 2010 at 6:20 p.m. #172
I was just QA, stuff at Redwood Shores
and what's nuts about what me?
Posted by HarkMammil on April 16, 2010 at 6:43 p.m. #173
You were tester? I see. Whats redwood shores? Nor Cal? Redwood City?
Not nutz just over it.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 16, 2010 at 6:46 p.m. #174
Both it's just on the southern edge of Redwood city,CA it's the original EA studios and the studio that made Dead Space, Dante's inferno, one of the teams the worked on Godfather 1 and 2 as well as alot of other big games
Posted by HarkMammil on April 16, 2010 at 7:51 p.m. #175
I can see why you like Sf then. Some of the best arcades and teams are from that area. I grew up in that area. Palo Alto, HMB, etc.
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 16, 2010 at 7:55 p.m. #176
I was almost working for Namco and as a kid I been by the Capcom buliding that the Tomo Tape was shot at
Posted by cuttyb1987 on April 16, 2010 at 8:12 p.m. #177
I thought Zangief uses Sambo Kind of and Abel uses but I thought Sambo was submission based? They need to have a chuck Norris character An American fei long lol if were talking grapplers how about a BJJ fighter he strikes but his command grabs chokes you out and gives out massive stun or something
Posted by Ex_Ein on April 16, 2010 at 8:15 p.m. #178
Ken is suppose to be the Chuck Norris and explains why he's so good in every game
Posted by alfarin on April 18, 2010 at 8:45 a.m. #179
R. Mika would be cool.
Say what you want about her, we all know that more totty would hardly go amiss.
Posted by Helgen on April 18, 2010 at 11:14 a.m. #180
I really hope they put Hugo in this, I like him better than Zangief, and he is one of the most versatile grappling characters of most fighting games in my own opinion.
Posted by OhNingYooh on April 18, 2010 at 7:57 p.m. #181
Twelve and Gill are way too far in the Timeline, Q rises when Bison (Dictator) is dead so we wont see Q in with Bison together. I know if another wrestler come in after Hugo it's Mika... probably a Grappler pack, then Rolento and Eagle would be looked at later on.
Posted by AnsatsukenChamp on May 25, 2010 at 8:46 p.m. #182
Oh man, anybody but hugo plz!!!! I never liked him, same with alex and elena, if they add anybody it should either be Q or yun/yang
Posted by JetX on May 25, 2010 at 10:54 p.m. #183
Yeah Id like to see Q and Karin. Q pwns and another great mystery :P
Posted by emaculatej650 on May 30, 2010 at 11:44 p.m. #184
DLC Wish List:
D. Dark
Skullomania
Karin
Yun
Yang (Completely Different than Yun)
Charlie?
Maki
Kyosuske, Shoma, Roy, edge, & Batsu from Rival Schools
Capcom: PUT RIVAL SCHOOLS ONLINE!!!! you'd make a killing I guarantee it!
Posted by OvaltineHot on June 5, 2010 at 12:17 p.m. #185
I think Yun would be perfect for DLC.
Posted by Keepingitclassy on June 6, 2010 at 11:22 a.m. #186
@OhNingYooh
I personally disagree with you on the Q part. I personally think he would be availible for ssf4 because don't forget, he was an easter egg cameo in ken's stage in Sf2 (or so I've heard many times). So basically imo Q existed before Bison's death.
Posted by Megadautilus on July 5, 2010 at 1:56 p.m. #187
Elena, Hugo, R.Mika, and Rolento would be the most obvious choices.
Posted by skemes on August 10, 2010 at 8:15 p.m. #188
SKULLOMANIA!!!!!!!!
