While a lack of an arcade release isn't a big shock for fans outside of Japan, as the original title wasn't 'officially' released elsewhere anyway, the competitive arcade scene in Japan is still very big, and Capcom deciding against releasing this upgrade over there likely means they don't expect to make the kind of money they'd need to make it worth while.
Posted by J on September 29, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #1
I wonder how this will affect the tournament scene. Will Japanese players start using console characters more now?
While I'm not an arcade player myself (I live in Europe, arcades are VERY scarce here), this still sort of is unsettling news.
Posted by yaniboy on September 29, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #2
sad :(
Posted by Ouch on September 29, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. #3
Good thing then is that the Spring release date is for the consoles not the arcades...I can live with that...
Posted by oi on September 29, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #4
I hope this doesn't split the userbase.
But this doesn't de-confirm an "update" as opposed to a full release,right?
Posted by Peloun on September 29, 2009 at 4:10 p.m. #5
hell yes, now i hope for good online coding
Posted by jleadership on September 29, 2009 at 4:12 p.m. #6
Well it looks like you will have to be a on-line player.
A few months ago People said you need to play in the arcade to get better, I guess capcom thinks other wise.
Posted by No pc? on September 29, 2009 at 4:12 p.m. #7
So is there no pc version? hmm
Posted by chickenwings on September 29, 2009 at 4:20 p.m. #8
Wow, thats surpriseing that there not doing an arcade verison. THats not gonna be good for the arcade since.
Posted by king on September 29, 2009 at 4:20 p.m. #9
DEE JAY
Posted by Violent Lucidity on September 29, 2009 at 4:22 p.m. #10
Boooooo!
Posted by MRT3ABAG on September 29, 2009 at 4:25 p.m. #11
Dam I remembered I had a cheap $20 dollar arcade stick, i still went to the arcades to improve, it worked!
( ;) love sanwa parts ) now i have a HRAP3 with sanwa buttons don't go arcades anymore, their really dead and over priced around australia. Very sad news for the japanese communitiy.
Posted by Nyoronoru on September 29, 2009 at 4:25 p.m. #12
Really don't like this. I subscribe to TRF weekly and now no matches to improve my play or impress me?
I really hope this isn't a foreboding conclusion that TvC will not be updated in arcades either.
Posted by tidestick on September 29, 2009 at 4:26 p.m. #13
Man that sucks i love playing in the arcade back in the day thats how i found sf2 waiting in line just to play. Now i can hardly find one. I been dying to play sf4 arcade but theres not one within 150 miles from where i live. thx alot consoles :(
Posted by xanavi on September 29, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #14
I haven't played a single game of SF4 in an arcade but this f****** sucks and it does bum me out. The arcade scene is invaluable when it comes to us wannabe competitive players. We get to see what are probably the best players' small iterations over time and adapt them to the way us common folk play the game. This is how the game evolves and how the depth is teased out of it. Without SSF4 coming to arcades we'll rarely get a glimpse of the most brilliant fighting game minds playing any of the newer characters and the competitive scene will have been worse for it.
Posted by halo on September 29, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. #15
This is bizarre, what will happen to all the tournaments now?
Also doesn't anyone else find it strange that the game shots and gameplay footage we saw so far is from the XBox 360 version and that even when Ono get's asked about when we can expect the game again he mentions the 360 first. I just think its kinda strange that a Japanese company refers to the 360 first and shows the game on 360 first even during the TGS show.
How do i know its the 360 version shown? I read it on Gamespot if not mistaken
Posted by oooh on September 29, 2009 at 4:41 p.m. #16
this means the game will suck
Posted by OG on September 29, 2009 at 4:41 p.m. #17
I think the 360 has been the lead platform on all of Capcom's multiplatform games for awhile now.
Posted by Minphesto on September 29, 2009 at 4:44 p.m. #18
Wow..no arcade..so SF4 won't be in SBO...Daigo better use his winning and get a PS3!
Posted by Lolento on September 29, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. #19
I don't know the Japanese culture, but I suppose an arcade version isn't strictly necessary. They could just go to places like the Game Bar A-Button.
Posted by Flawless on September 29, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. #20
This is damn shame so many people in Japan don't even own an PS3 or and Xbox. I guess the SBO 2010 can't do SSF4 they just stick with SF4
Posted by Minphesto on September 29, 2009 at 4:47 p.m. #21
It's the lowest common denominator. You build the game with the weakest system in mind because you can then port it to the more powerful one. PS3 rarely is pushed for performance...
Posted by Aho on September 29, 2009 at 4:48 p.m. #22
no arcade? thats SUPER bullshiet that I ever heard!!!! >:(
how about arcade players who don't have consoles & how's the competitive in japan without arcade? This decision is SUPER mega fail, what makes Ono to take SUPER dumb decision like this???
Posted by darksydephil on September 29, 2009 at 4:49 p.m. #23
i couldn't watch the video it's waaay to laggy and the translator is too delayed, f*ckin capcom, online bs lag
Posted by @1 on September 29, 2009 at 4:50 p.m. #24
If this is the case, the top Asian players will not spend time on SSF4. SBO will probably keep the current SF4 for the next year tournament.
Posted by huh on September 29, 2009 at 4:50 p.m. #25
what about PC, guys?
Posted by Baltimore on September 29, 2009 at 4:50 p.m. #26
NO PC either? someone asks Jackie Chan Ono, please...
Posted by @21 on September 29, 2009 at 4:55 p.m. #27
Well, except the PS3 is the lowest here (if you ignore lower-end PCs). If you pay close attention to the visual effects like blur and distortion lines, the 360 and PC versions are slightly superior to the PS3 version.
A big array of low-end processors (which, when used correctly, give you huge processing power) helps very little when your video card is crap.
Posted by Afro Thunder on September 29, 2009 at 4:56 p.m. #28
The last major fighting game without an arcade release was Soul Calibur 4... and look how that turned out at first (aka, infinites and spotty character balance).
Posted by Lolento on September 29, 2009 at 4:57 p.m. #29
I'm worried about a PC version too… I know they didn't have the best of sales, but I hope Capcom factored in the fact that when you release a platform version 5 months after the others you lose a portion of your potential buyers.
Posted by ThunderThighs on September 29, 2009 at 4:58 p.m. #30
Odd, one would think another arcade release would be viable. But I guess its the money margin, if the company don't see much profit coming from it I really can't blame them.
time to save up that cash! I wonder if there would be a collectors edition? I curious as to what "additional" goodies the original SF4 purchaser gets in conjuction with this. Like the extra costumes for free or exclusive Icons,Titles ( I know these are stupid for some but they just might)? Please Capcom, DO NOT DISAPPOINT.
Posted by Aho on September 29, 2009 at 5 p.m. #31
ok, if this true then anyone who want to play the game have to buy console, rather than just pay for 100 yen or 50 cents or whatevar for 1 plain game, how brilliant is it.
Posted by Lolento on September 29, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. #32
#31, I guess you could just visit a gaming bar/meeting. Not that different from going to an arcade.
(Btw, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most arcades in Japan these days just charge for an entrance fee and let you play as you wish. This is great for playing for long periods of time, but most probably not "100 yen for 1 plain game")
Posted by WOW!!! on September 29, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. #33
This shocked me, are the Japanese abandoning arcades as well?
Posted by Jason on September 29, 2009 at 5:20 p.m. #34
I don't know why they wouldn't do a PC version... the x-box is basically a pc. Can't be that hard to port.
Posted by Garuda on September 29, 2009 at 5:21 p.m. #35
I don't really think this is a good decision... It's all in their hands now. I guess that they could still issue out an update to arcades, instead of making the new arcade boards (or whatever arcade games are on). DLC for the arcades I guess.
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. #36
How do you no the games were played on 360?
Posted by SteadiestScrub on September 29, 2009 at 5:38 p.m. #37
This is a horrible decision. The arcade players are gonna ignore this new release...unless they can find a way to update the machines themselves or actually use consoles in the machines...
I guess I won't be seeing the tier lists shift due to the Japanese getting ahold of the console characters...
Posted by WG on September 29, 2009 at 5:40 p.m. #38
omg was full waiting for new characters to play at arcades but this just screws me over. playing the limited 17 characters will be gay when there are tonnes more out. think i should start playing Tekken 6 now Q_Q
Posted by Diago on September 29, 2009 at 5:47 p.m. #39
ahhh f**k, no arcade?!!? how the hell am i supposed to pwn people now?!!
oh well, back to playing mahjong
Posted by fmYAP85 on September 29, 2009 at 5:52 p.m. #40
I'm going to kill myself
Posted by PC on September 29, 2009 at 5:52 p.m. #41
The only reason they didn't sell as many as they wished for on pc, is that they waited 5 months after all the hype calmed down to release it for pc. I don't understand, why the interviewer didn't pick up on his statement and asked if there will be a pc version.
Posted by Nice on September 29, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. #42
Sounds like online lobbies are CONFIRMED
Posted by desu on September 29, 2009 at 6:07 p.m. #43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ApfS4...
new trailer i guess
also sucks for arcades...
Posted by LMAO on September 29, 2009 at 6:08 p.m. #44
Look at all these cry babies that don't even know what the **** they are talking about haha.
Who gives a damn about the arcade players? Seeing as Arcades are dead here in the US and in most parts of the world. And no, the same 20 players who always play at Arcade Infinity don't make up the whole SF4 comunity.
90% of the SF4 fans actually play this in their homes on their consoles.
The only one that I can see who will get affected by this will be the Japanese, but who gives a ****? I live in US so I could careless haha.
Capcom is rather smart and they are looking at the bigger picture here (the console players). Face it people the arcade scene has been dead for years now here in the states and in many other places outside Japan.
Bawww MOarr!~!!
Posted by cake on September 29, 2009 at 6:15 p.m. #45
I forsee PS3/Xbox360 stations in arcades that you can purchase time slots at or something... maybe. Who knows.
Posted by geodude on September 29, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. #46
Yeah agree with #45... this just means in japan they will use consoles in the arcades
Posted by yoyoyo on September 29, 2009 at 6:29 p.m. #47
xbox + TE stick + japan = arcade
Posted by owtlaw63 on September 29, 2009 at 6:33 p.m. #48
wow no arcade release well that sucks I wonder how the game will turn out overall. Also what about SBO, will Japanese players just neglect Super Street Fighter 4 and stick to the original then?
Posted by PC version on September 29, 2009 at 6:36 p.m. #49
Ah wanna hear about the PC version!
Posted by japs on September 29, 2009 at 6:36 p.m. #50
They better start using console in Japanese arcades or those fools are going to fall behind the times...
Posted by Mr. Derp on September 29, 2009 at 6:42 p.m. #51
Erm, retards! I doubt that the only way the Japanese play is through Arcades. Sure, this will mean something different for tournaments, but there are plenty of tourny worthy games that don't come out for Arcades. What the hell is wrong with you people? Looking for more ways to bitch?
Posted by stupid ppl on September 29, 2009 at 6:44 p.m. #52
It would be 50x cheaper to just hook up 20 360's w/sticks and bigger profit margins..
Posted by JuzJoe on September 29, 2009 at 6:45 p.m. #53
This is absolutely shocking news; I juz hope that we will still be able to see the a strong japanese community in the fighting genre.
But hey, back home here, there are ghetto arcades that has a PS3 in an arcade cabinet.
Posted by Jose on September 29, 2009 at 7:04 p.m. #54
The only thing I hope I get to see is the fact that they should update their online with at least better coding similar to HD remix.
Posted by :P on September 29, 2009 at 7:05 p.m. #55
They still have 3rd Strike, that's the most important thing.
Posted by Trauma Radio on September 29, 2009 at 7:14 p.m. #56
although i'm sadden that they would not release an arcade version, but it isn't their fault x_x
I guess Arcade Scene dropped world wide except Japan
But all is well for ps3 and 360 players although i question if their would be a PC version
SO far they kept talking about Juri and T.Hawk i saw a design board with Deejay in it but no screen shots or videos of him playing
hopefully the other 7 would be release soon as possible when they are almost complete (cross my fingers for some 3rd strike characters) <- would be funny if they can parry in ssf4 x_x lol
And hopefully they would release a update on when it might be out like exact date because I'm going to try to pre-oder the PS3 SSF4 (JAPAN) version and still order the english version XD lol
Can't wait for the next update
Posted by tainted on September 29, 2009 at 7:19 p.m. #57
this no arcade release really hurt me. what does this mean for people like daigo? Are they still going to be competing in regular tournaments but on PS3 or xbox360?
Posted by DaigoWillfindaway` on September 29, 2009 at 7:28 p.m. #58
Seriously i dont think that Daigo or any top player will be done. They will probably still have some kind of card system for the Console Versions Tournaments wont have to worry either. Cant they just start something in someones house and play there *thats the new arcade*.
Posted by Albert Wesker on September 29, 2009 at 7:33 p.m. #59
I do not give a damn about an arcade release. Arcades are a thing of the past, even for the most part in Asia.
Posted by owtlaw63 on September 29, 2009 at 7:34 p.m. #60
Well besides the fact that there is not going to be an arcade release which sucks, hopefully they fix the awful net code this time around.
Posted by Trauma Radio on September 29, 2009 at 7:36 p.m. #61
or make a cabinet out of your ps3 or x360 lol
me and my friends are planning to build one
can't the arcades build a home cabinet version of a ps3 or x360 and play like that XD via home/ arcades
@Daigowillfindaway
I still believe he will play in tourney's and other places as well because he enjoys playing sf4 and other games he plays
people shouldn't give up just because their won't be one for the arcade
if you enjoy playing then play that's all their is to it
Posted by Mr.NiK on September 29, 2009 at 7:39 p.m. #62
Street Fighter IV has proven popular in the arcades here in Sydney. If a home version of a newer edition of SFIV is released this will cause less people to play SFIV in the arcades and it may cause a removal of the machines (happened to 3rd strike!). Tekken 6 is unfortunately more popular here.
What a shame, this is really bad news.
Posted by Trauma Radio on September 29, 2009 at 7:41 p.m. #63
so far in Arcade Infinity near fullerton, CA they still have games like blublaze, KOF XII, SFIV, SFIII: 3rd strike, MVCS2, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom and other games either in english or japanese
Posted by Goblin on September 29, 2009 at 7:41 p.m. #64
This is the worst possible news.
Posted by str8tek (psn) on September 29, 2009 at 7:44 p.m. #65
Everyone should shut up!
Let the japs worry about the arcades.
U finally got what u wanted:
More balancing
More characters
Lobbies
Better coding
Etc
Arcades are a dieding breed.
At a time of recession, who wants to waste money
If ur not happy, make ur own game or buy another
Posted by Trauma Radio on September 29, 2009 at 7:50 p.m. #66
@ Str8tek
Agreeable!!!
Posted by B-jamin on September 29, 2009 at 7:52 p.m. #67
str8tek is too right. You people wine way too much.
Posted by kc on September 29, 2009 at 8:06 p.m. #68
This really sucks, basically doing this would completely kill off the arcade scenes.
@str8tek
This doesn't only impact jpn, we have a few arcades in america with huge street fighter scenes.
Posted by Panda on September 29, 2009 at 8:11 p.m. #69
With no arcade testing, console release will be imbalanced.
Even IF they buff Guile, Fuerte, Vega, Rose, and all the other weak characters, the 'new' characters will likely suck.
Expect T.Hawk to be bottom, along with juri and anyone else they throw in. (I'll still main bottom tier dudley, I don't even CARE. GIMME!)
LOBBIES though....nice.
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 8:15 p.m. #70
People who bash people for wanting arcade consoles , i mean why bash them. Only having them on the ps3 and 360 would limit you to playing friends and people at tournaments( lag free play i'm talking about) Arcades are places you can go and play other people who are good at the game and not have to worry about lag messing up your timeing, so it is completely understandable to being dissappointed that would not be relised in arcades.
Posted by owtlaw63 on September 29, 2009 at 8:18 p.m. #71
Correct me if i am wrong but wont this be the only street fighter game to not go to arcade first? I thought from what I remember all the other versions being ported to the arcade then the console. At least we got what we asked for an updated Street fighter 4 version with new characters, game play revisions, and better online. Im sure Japan will figure out something.
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 8:21 p.m. #72
Street fighter ex 3 never made it to arcade also lol
Posted by owtlaw63 on September 29, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #73
Oh yeah forgot about that ex 3 lol. Did anyone really play that one though?
Posted by TRUTH on September 29, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #74
"Look at all these cry babies that don't even know what the **** they are talking about haha.
Who gives a damn about the arcade players? Seeing as Arcades are dead here in the US and in most parts of the world. And no, the same 20 players who always play at Arcade Infinity don't make up the whole SF4 comunity.
90% of the SF4 fans actually play this in their homes on their consoles.
The only one that I can see who will get affected by this will be the Japanese, but who gives a ****? I live in US so I could careless haha.
Capcom is rather smart and they are looking at the bigger picture here (the console players). Face it people the arcade scene has been dead for years now here in the states and in many other places outside Japan.
Bawww MOarr!~!!"
Truth right there!!!
Arcades are DEAD no one cares about them cept for Japan and about 20 players in the whole US haha.
Posted by HalfAsianGuy on September 29, 2009 at 8:28 p.m. #75
Wait, wait, wait. They're going to do locational testing IN ARCADES. Why the hell wouldn't they put out a full version on a machine when most of the work is already done?
I think there's some misunderstanding in both the context of what Ono is saying and his Japanese. Even insane people would know that not including Street Fighter in Japanese arcades is too ridiculous.
Posted by B-jamin on September 29, 2009 at 8:35 p.m. #76
@IRPanda
Who's to say that all the players in arcades are even good? Especially in America? It could be the same thing as online excpet for online has slight lag, which to me, I don't even find very noticable most of the time and still end up pulling off all of my moves just fine. To me, especially since I believe everyone posting is in America, this is just another thing people here want to complain about even though it barel effects us. I am sure the precious devoted SFIV players in Japan will still be playing, no problem. People just hear one thing and get all crazy like always with their assumptions. For god sakes, lets just see what happens. Can the game come out guys? Will you allow this before you keep bashing it with nonsense?
Posted by dan on September 29, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. #77
How come arcade players are still dominating in the US? The best players are still guys from CTF in NY, or FFA/Denjin/AI in Socal despite over a million people having access to consoles over a few hundred or low thousand with arcade access. Fighting games are about seeing who pushes the game to its limits, and that is best achieved with arcades where you have to perform under pressure and something(cost for 1 credit, pride from other players watching, and time it takes to get your turn again) is on the line.
Posted by stubbs on September 29, 2009 at 8:44 p.m. #78
No Japanese arcade release = no Japanese players
No Japanese players = Evo and SBO are lame as hell
Posted by Ryu on September 29, 2009 at 8:45 p.m. #79
so i guess i won't be seeing ssf4 in sbo, and japanese won't be coming to evo anymore....
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 8:48 p.m. #80
@B-jamin
Yea alot of the time the lag online is unnoticeable but when u try to pull your move off when you are offline you would see where the trouble start, i play all the time online and when i go small tournys my timeing is off because i am accoustum to the timeing of doing my moves offline.
And no everyone does not live in America. I'm from trinidad
Posted by ¿? on September 29, 2009 at 8:56 p.m. #81
http://www.destructoid.com/guide-how-...
Posted by t-mac on September 29, 2009 at 9:01 p.m. #82
Dan #77 is right. Playing online and playing against someone right next to you is completely different. Playing online will never be as fast as playing on an arcade machine.
Posted by Maan on September 29, 2009 at 9:05 p.m. #83
Here is a new video interview with ONO, he talks about rebalance of new sf4 , and recognices that sagat and ryu are overpowered.
Here is the link , its translated to spanish.
http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_not...
Posted by classy on September 29, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #84
i think japan is skipping this iteration for the arcade.. and when a bigger update comes out.. they will make an arcade version
Posted by fmYAP85 on September 29, 2009 at 9:10 p.m. #85
No arcade? Is there any point in living anymore?
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 9:12 p.m. #86
@classy i was thinking the same thing
Posted by aw on September 29, 2009 at 9:16 p.m. #87
even though i dont mind the console only.. i truly believe some of the biggest tourney players in japan might retire form this because when i was there this summer most of the grandmasters didnt even have a ps3.... all their skills came from the arcades... so i believe some of the great players in japan will drop due to relbalances and enw characters that they wont have a chanc eto play with unless the full out cough up the money and buy a console and stay at home to practice even when in their culture its very normal to go out in the scene to compete.... this will have greater impact then mos tof you think to the elite players
Posted by po on September 29, 2009 at 9:28 p.m. #88
yea i see how the elite players will bail out.... you're right its not in their culture to just trap themselves at home with a SF game.... SF is an ARCADE game there. the arcade only thing should only upset peeps who actually admired the skills of players in JApan.... if not... then yea no big deal. Jwong Sanford, and etc will actually be the best now.... kind of a crappy way though
Posted by rick astley on September 29, 2009 at 9:28 p.m. #89
I got inside information saying that this is just ono's version of a rick roll.
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 9:28 p.m. #90
Maybe the japs might just make there own arcade console.
Posted by NO ARCADE?!?!?! on September 29, 2009 at 9:40 p.m. #91
WAAAAAH!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!! OOOOWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!! -Kicks crib demanding bottle- WAH! WAH! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Simply great how Juri was the problem of yesterday and today, no arcade is the issue. You people are disgusting.
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 9:44 p.m. #92
@91
If people always accept things as they are things would never improve :).
Posted by Trauma Radio on September 29, 2009 at 9:47 p.m. #93
well for the people in arcades in different locations, a good idea is that the owners or workers in the arcades can make homemade cabinets of ps3 or xbox360 version and there you have it play side by side against anyone
this of course if they wanted to
I mean it won't be exactly like the real cabinets, but at least you get to play people who come right may not be your average tourney, but hey make the best in the arcade tourneys or other places etc
Posted by LOLOL on September 29, 2009 at 9:50 p.m. #94
@92
But this is suppossed to be an upgrade for improvement and has been officially announced yesterday, only so people could already find flaws in it?! Gimme a break!
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 9:53 p.m. #95
@94
Some people just like to complain i guess lol.
Posted by Tony on September 29, 2009 at 10:10 p.m. #96
I can see why Capcom made the decision but I do see it both ways.
I am a relative SF noob and have been trying level up and going to different arcades helps. I have been to CTF, my home arcade, London (relatively scrub land) and Vancouver. I made it to G1, but honestly, like #77 suggests, you get more out of 1 hour getting beat up into the ground than you do in 1 week anonymously in your room on Xbox live. It's like singing or playing the guitar. At the arcade, you are "on stage" so to say an no amount of bedroom jamming on your guitar can compare to real pressure situations
Posted by n00b_saib0t on September 29, 2009 at 10:11 p.m. #97
i may be wrong, someone feel free to correct this, but SFZ3 upper didnt get an arcade release at first, then ended up getting one, didnt it? if SSF4 sells well enough on consoles and has good enough reception, we might just see an arcade port.
Posted by owtlaw 63 on September 29, 2009 at 10:35 p.m. #98
I agree I would not be surprised if Capcom released the arcade version after the console version just to see how everyone felt about the new characters and upgrades to the game play.
Posted by wat the f on September 29, 2009 at 10:51 p.m. #99
they better make a tournament edition arcade machine after the console release for japan. The US and every other country will probably destroy that 3 month gap in skill they use to have in the tournament scene.
@16 i hope u dont jinx it. i still remember what happened to soul calibur
Posted by ¿? on September 29, 2009 at 10:55 p.m. #100
#97, AFAIK SFZ3 Upper started exactly an arcade release, with the main purpose of bringing back to the arcades the console exclusive characters. But these re-releases don't count, anyway; SFA3 MAX was never (re-re-re-)released in the arcades (as far as I know).
Posted by ¿? on September 29, 2009 at 10:56 p.m. #101
Also, I agree it makes sense for Capcom to release on the consoles first as a means of balancing the game out before getting into the harder-to-upgrade arcades.
Posted by n00b_saib0t on September 29, 2009 at 11:13 p.m. #102
#100, i'm not sure what you mean by "re-releases" not counting. a re-release is the EXACT same game being put into production again. the home version of SFA3 was technically an upgrade to arcade SFA3, but the title never indicated it. that upgrade was ported exactly from the dreamcast version to include dreamcast version engine changes and naomi hardware for arcades. IIRC, this was never the definitive arcade version because most players felt the DC version messed with the "beauty" of SFA3(leaving the saturn and PSX the closest home experience to SFA3 arcade). on top of that, to the best of my knowledge, the GBA version(double upper?) and PSP version(MAX) both use the arcade engine with the home version characters added, plus 3 more for GBA and one more on top of that for PSP. so none of them are re-releases, but upgrades. MvC2 for PS2 and xbox was a re-release, SFA3 home versions werent.
similarly to SFA3, SF4 home versions are technically an upgrade to SF4 arcade, but its not getting an arcade release. as of now, SSF4 also isnt getting one, but if dreamcast SFA3 can become SFZ3 upper i dont see why fan support cant persuade capcom to make an arcade version of SSF4.
Posted by cake on September 29, 2009 at 11:18 p.m. #103
I'll say it again, relax. There's no reason arcades won't set up consoles stations or something... it'll be cheaper for them to do it that way anyway.
Posted by No more on September 29, 2009 at 11:18 p.m. #104
No more "Arcade Perfect" Street Fighter.
Lot more spam diagonal and 3 Punch/3 Kick shortcuts, online kids and too old people who still act like kids screaming when they win or lose.
Lot more "This guy is cheating lag online omg my name is dark syde I don't lose - buy me games!!" youtubes when he wins one round then gets Double PERFECT'd.
Posted by LOL on September 29, 2009 at 11:29 p.m. #105
I can only remember the fools who would yell "Online wins equals jack". Well, join the rest of the community son. LOL
Posted by black thuesday on September 29, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #106
well, thats mean a ban from me.
no arcade version means no good player in japan ( arcade still work great there, good player wont leave the arcade), so no great match to watch to improve,
that also means no real balance in the game ( they won't balance it using playtest from the pro player in japan like they did with sf4.)
and more, that mean that game is becoming more and more casual. We should except more shortcut, less tactic,....
Really a bad decision.
I know that won't change anything, but anyone want to start a petition ?
Posted by gouken on September 29, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #107
@32 (Lolento)
I have never seen an all-you-can-eat arcade in Japan. not saying they don't perhaps exist, but i have NEVER seen one (I live in Tokyo; once in a while I play SF4 in the arcade, but I suck on stick and my main Gouken isn't selectable -- so I usually play Zangief in the arcade as he's the only character i can play acceptably without a pad, heh. sad, but true!)
Posted by DARKWORLD on September 29, 2009 at 11:45 p.m. #108
Heh, you can complain, but cant decide that for them.
Somebody understands what are they saying in the video?
There will be 2 ultras per character?
Posted by gouken 2 on September 29, 2009 at 11:46 p.m. #109
it's important that they also improve akuma's raging demon
Posted by ddd on September 29, 2009 at 11:52 p.m. #110
SF4 is going to die in Japan with no arcade version.
How will arcade players play the updated version? Buy the console version?
I think not, this is a dumb move by Capcom. This cuts the user base in half then.
Half console players and half arcade players.
Posted by IrPanda on September 29, 2009 at 11:55 p.m. #111
Whats wrong with the raging demon?
Posted by Should be DLC... on September 30, 2009 at midnight #112
The way he talks is like this game is actually going to have some sort of story mode. If only the cut-scenes would look like the trailers they put out.
ideas
-don't nerf Sagat/Ryu (they're strong for a reason)
-lobby tournaments wouldn't hurt
-better yet a real lobby system would suffice. lol
-costumes on the actual disc (don't release it a week after the game comes out)
-get rid of the anime, use in-game cut-scenes instead
-reduced lag-free :)
Posted by Perspective on September 30, 2009 at 12:01 a.m. #113
I see lots of people bitching about not being an arcade release, when these same people have never played SF4 in a arcade. Times are changing, and I suspect we will see more "gaming bars" in the future rather than arcades. As long as it is a venue where you can play face to face, that is good. The system it runs on does not matter, what matters is a place to have a social gathering between people that share the same passion for a game.
Gaming bars are becoming more common: cheaper for people to set up, more profitable and easier to have new games / change games depending if it is a PES night, a Tekken night, a SF4 night etc..
Just look at how good Gods Garden turned out. That could be the sign of how things will become in the future.
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 12:02 a.m. #114
What is the reason for them being so strong, if it is the reason i think you mean then seth should be stronger.
Posted by cuttyb87 on September 30, 2009 at 12:02 a.m. #115
@Irpanda u know whats wrong with the raging demon its hard to land and its sucks and it pushes u across the screen Akuma needs the MIsogi technique on the update
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 12:11 a.m. #116
How else would you expect it to be. As it touches you , you get hit? The raging demon is perfect imo.
Posted by stop whining on September 30, 2009 at 12:13 a.m. #117
To all the people complaining about every single change...get lost and go play tekken or something.i mean it's getting ridiculous now.Fixing broken characters or adding lobbies or genuine suggestions for improvement fine I hear that, but now "no arcade ,or fix this minor inconsequential detail, Juri sucks etc"...you haven't even played the game so please use rational experience based arguments instead of speculative " toys out pram nonsense ". Be grateful Street Fighter is back after such a long wait you weasely whiny scumbags geez louise give the game a chance...
Posted by DaBakerMann on September 30, 2009 at 12:16 a.m. #118
GREAT...... now justin wong will dominate evo :/
Posted by lawlz on September 30, 2009 at 12:32 a.m. #119
You guys complain too much. this is life beyond this game you know.
Posted by Hooded on September 30, 2009 at 12:37 a.m. #120
lol this is life byond this game lol what ? !?!?! :P
Posted by the frog-splash lives on September 30, 2009 at 12:39 a.m. #121
Life without sf? que
Posted by cnt spell on September 30, 2009 at 12:53 a.m. #122
:@ 119
i think he/she meant
"you guys complain to much. There is life beyond this game you know."
Posted by Kabbila on September 30, 2009 at 12:59 a.m. #123
I think more important than arcade,
is that he said PS3 & xbox ONLY = no PC ?
Ah comon =/ damn exclusive sh*t
Posted by Chymer on September 30, 2009 at 1:04 a.m. #124
Bad we want arcade version !
For credibility of Capcom, for the tougueki.
New stuff are nice, just do it perfect !
Posted by eXtonix on September 30, 2009 at 1:15 a.m. #125
Some reporter should ask Ono about the PC version, please!
Posted by ok on September 30, 2009 at 1:15 a.m. #126
So whats the big announcement that was going to be said today?
Posted by Takayanagi on September 30, 2009 at 1:18 a.m. #127
ok my Q is do they really have 2 diff ultras or ultra 1 and ultra are the same ultra but more damage scale or what?!
Posted by PC love on September 30, 2009 at 1:27 a.m. #128
What about the PC -_-
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 1:41 a.m. #129
In one of the videos you can see Juri with a II by here ultra gauge which says to me that you pick your ultra before the fight.
Posted by Turbonium on September 30, 2009 at 1:42 a.m. #130
Console: Super SFIV
Arcade later: Super "Turbo" SFIV
Then more crying.
Posted by halo on September 30, 2009 at 1:58 a.m. #131
Most people play games in games bars/cafe's or at home. Someone here said "what about all those Japanese gamers who don't own a PS3 or XBOX"..WTF?? HOW MANY Japanese people do you know that do not own a console? And even so, what about all the Americans, Europeans etc who haven't seen a SF arcade in years?
Consoles can be used at home, game meeting places as well as in arcades which makes it more reasonable.
Sure i was surprised at the announcement but it does not mean the game will die cause of it. Diego can buy a console (as if he doesnt own 10 already)
Also to those saying that without the arcades they will never be able to study other players...again WTF? Have you ever heard of YouTube and other game uploading sites? You can find all the videos there just how we all did, who cares if it will be of the arcade or console versions?
Posted by Jink on September 30, 2009 at 2:06 a.m. #132
Online consoles, are the new arcade scene.
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 2:20 a.m. #133
@132
You can only go so far online.
Posted by Smorgasboard on September 30, 2009 at 2:20 a.m. #134
Just out of curiosity, did anyone who commented here actually played SF4 in the arcade? I suppose the Japanese won't be happy with this decision but then again Capcom is a Japanese company so they should know better... or not. Meh.
Posted by halo on September 30, 2009 at 2:29 a.m. #135
#134 no i haven't, that's the point. Outside of Japan who plays it in the arcades as much as on consoles?
Only thing that bugs me is knowing that the biggest majority of Asian SF players will be using the PS3 version which means us 360 players will not get to compete against most of Asia's best. Well, i suppose the same thing is happening with SF IV so...
Posted by @ halo on September 30, 2009 at 2:32 a.m. #136
"Diego can buy a console (as if he doesnt own 10 already)"
-
Diego Umejuarez?
That guy's soo badass.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost....
Posted by Kc on September 30, 2009 at 2:34 a.m. #137
@134 I would like to know also. I play at the arcade and it's a totally different experience than just playing online. Even when having a group over at a friends house won't be the same feeling.
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 2:36 a.m. #138
Trinidad has no SF4 machinces :( i would of played if they did though, i used to live in the arcade before i got a ps3
Posted by AtTheGates on September 30, 2009 at 2:40 a.m. #139
terrible news for all pros and semi pros, both console and arcade.
watching matchvids is not only a lot of fun, it also saves you possibly months of versus and practice, and maybe even shows you stuff you would have never figured out yourself. besides that, the level of play is significantly higher when you have an arcade release (both on console and arcade), this encourages good players to try out the game. the more players play a game on a high level, the less likely it is that a random player can win by only learning offense, and not having any real matchup knowledge.
basically, arcade release = higher level of play = more fun for everyone except scrubs (they don't care).
since hardcore players, although being the minority, often do shape opinions, capcom shouldn't be surprised if this update doesn't sell very well. unfortunately, they'll probably use poor sales to justify their decision to not release it in arcades.
Posted by J on September 30, 2009 at 3:15 a.m. #140
Why would arcade releases automatically translate into a higher level of play? If the game isn't in the arcades and people play it at home, why would the level of play from those same people suffer? If anything, the ability for at-home players to observe other online matches will likely translate into an overall improvement in the level of play.
Posted by k on September 30, 2009 at 3:38 a.m. #141
you just dont know
Posted by darksydephil on September 30, 2009 at 3:41 a.m. #142
everyone should add my friend str8tek (psn)
if u want some good matchups
hes extremely helpful
Posted by Mr. Big on September 30, 2009 at 3:42 a.m. #143
#140 read post #77.
Better yet I'll just copypaste it for you:
Posted by dan on September 29, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. #77
How come arcade players are still dominating in the US? The best players are still guys from CTF in NY, or FFA/Denjin/AI in Socal despite over a million people having access to consoles over a few hundred or low thousand with arcade access. Fighting games are about seeing who pushes the game to its limits, and that is best achieved with arcades where you have to perform under pressure and something(cost for 1 credit, pride from other players watching, and time it takes to get your turn again) is on the line.
Posted by Big Fish on September 30, 2009 at 3:42 a.m. #144
This is an horrible decision from Capcom.
It doesn't matter if Capcom does not make any money from the arcade version or even if they loose some: they should consider it as marketing investment that impacts the console players nonetheless.
Don't they realize that the japanese arcade scene is a great window for their game? Can't they see that many console players in the US and in Europe would probably not be playing SF4 anymore if they did not have access to the inspiring videos of the japanese tournaments, that keep the interest for the game alive even for casual players?
This looks like short-term reasoning, unaware of the harm it will to the SF franchise in the end. Sad.
Posted by Guile player on September 30, 2009 at 3:59 a.m. #145
The arcade scene here in Europe were great when World Warrior, Champion Edition and SSFII were out. For some reason, they never really embraced the Turbo-variants here. SFII Turbo and SSFII Turbo were only found in smaller rooms in casino's over here but not in the large arcade parks.
Now, the arcades here are all abandoned. The smaller ones disappeared. The larger ones are still present but they only have the typical genres like racing and shooting. During the day and evening only a handful of people play Dance Dance Revolution or Outrun 2.
I wonder what impact this will have on the Japanese skill level. The lack of an arcade release doesn't affect me because the last machine we had here that ran SF was the CAPCOM CLASSICS multi-games machine. It had SFII Turbo set on Hardest Insane level. If you entered a round and got like 3 hits you already lost.
Posted by Perspective on September 30, 2009 at 4:12 a.m. #146
I say we blame the french
Posted by 145 on September 30, 2009 at 4:13 a.m. #147
does anyone know what ono said?
Posted by 146 on September 30, 2009 at 4:19 a.m. #148
in this spanish video of course
Posted by 148 on September 30, 2009 at 4:20 a.m. #149
in this spanish video of course
Posted by 146 on September 30, 2009 at 4:21 a.m. #150
bet u know france best country in world best players better than americen
Posted by lol on September 30, 2009 at 4:45 a.m. #151
lol as if it says anything if you're better than the americans
Marn and Justin Wong got beaten in the Tougeki tournament in the 1st match.
Posted by lol on September 30, 2009 at 4:46 a.m. #152
Oh and france sucks. It's a dirty swamp full of scum.
Posted by Maan on September 30, 2009 at 4:54 a.m. #153
Ono sais lot of stuff in the spanish video, but the most important for me is, that there will be a rebalance in SSF4, also that they will add 8 new characters becuase is, some of them of sf3 strike.
Posted by Smexy Millz on September 30, 2009 at 5:18 a.m. #154
you guys love to complain lol just be happy you got a new version and stfu
Posted by Gibbon on September 30, 2009 at 5:45 a.m. #155
This is depressing. Yeah, it's fun to practice console online, but in the end, it's just practice for the arcade. There's nothing like the arcade experience.
Posted by mudkipz on September 30, 2009 at 5:50 a.m. #156
omg this is terrible no arcade version. even though i have never even made an attempt to go to an arcade and there are non in my local area, this is very terrible possibly 8 new charactersd and rebalancig and lobbys arent enough to stop me complaining. lolz
Posted by owtlaw63 on September 30, 2009 at 5:55 a.m. #157
Capcom will probably bring out a arcade version later after the game hits stores. But arcade version or not at least we got a new updated version of street fighter 4.
Posted by Da Son on September 30, 2009 at 6:08 a.m. #158
If Capcom is committed to balancing the game via DLC after seeing extended data online and via message boards and at tournaments then I see no reason to care if it doesn't come in the arcade.
Its like people goes, well the top Japanese players may abandon it. And I'm thinking to myself "WHY DO I CARE." Seriously people, why do I care if people in japan will have to buy it on the PS3 or 360 and if they want use it in the arcades or some other meeting place.
Why do I even care about SBO???? Sure it was ok to see how the US players do against the Japanese players, but that only lasted like 1 hour. After that, I'm not having sleepless nights about it. Why do I care about if the japanese come to evo or not, or forced to play on PS3. It doesn't affect me playing SFIV or Super SFIV in one bit.
Next thing you know, people might say, I'm mad, The Iphone 2 won't come out in Japan, now the japanese won't be able to use it. While that is messed up for them, it doesn't affect me in any way. At least in the SSFIV case, it isn't like they won't get the game, just in a different way.
Posted by THawkFTW on September 30, 2009 at 6:19 a.m. #159
I am very disappointed with this news...this will certainly split the user base..I hope all the top players in Japan will concentrate on SSF4 when it comes out for console. I really want to see high level players playing SSF4. I consider myself a casual player and an audience.
Capcom please re-think this...isn't it possible to just upgrade the current SF4 cabinets with SSP4?...
Posted by stfu on September 30, 2009 at 6:32 a.m. #160
@150
y did the french get peaced out by marn and justin at sunfest then?
Posted by Luk_Edge on September 30, 2009 at 6:33 a.m. #161
Here's Juri's intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8mhBT...
I liked the slow mo, I could see very well the details @_@
Posted by hobohitman on September 30, 2009 at 7:02 a.m. #162
capcom prob figured it be a better investment to just do the home verison over an arcade release. I mean where would capcom make more money world wide? Home consoles? or a arcade manchine that 90% of current sf4 player base hasnt even seen. Plus no arcade release is prob one of the reasons they can do ssf4 for a below retail price which again i think is a great move by capcom. Maybe they can get some type of update for the arcade manchines later but honestly how many people play on those to begin with?
Posted by mukus on September 30, 2009 at 7:14 a.m. #163
Terrible decision, arcade release is more like a beta test with the best players in the world, this could make that some characters and gameplay decisions could be really broken and ship into the console game.
Posted by The Question on September 30, 2009 at 7:32 a.m. #164
Real concept art?
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/48...
Posted by Get lost, "The Question" on September 30, 2009 at 7:40 a.m. #165
Stop sending ugly fakes that you made.
Posted by Androo on September 30, 2009 at 7:40 a.m. #166
^^^ Yeah, if you look in the artwork section of street fighter 4 you'll see more pictures of that guy, although whether he'll be in the new one remains to be seen...It didnt mention his name though
Posted by lol on September 30, 2009 at 7:46 a.m. #167
I don't think it's that bad, obviously fake but made wish we would see him though
Posted by man y people on September 30, 2009 at 7:51 a.m. #168
manypeople already said this, but... i want a pc version :(
and more stages! =P
Posted by damo69 on September 30, 2009 at 7:53 a.m. #169
Street Fighter was not successful in Japanese arcades when you consider how large the budget was. And Capcom's upper management will not tolerate something that loses too much money. take a look at Arcadia magazine's top 10 lists for this year http://www.versuscity.net/?s=arcadia+...
Posted by Androo on September 30, 2009 at 7:56 a.m. #170
Haha, its not fake! He's in the artwork section of the street fighter 4 game! have a look. Am i the only one that looked there? lol
Posted by V on September 30, 2009 at 7:57 a.m. #171
The Japanese don't care that I don't get Virtua Fighter 5 R outside of Japan.
Soulcalibur IV didn't have an arcade release, yet the high level play is... well, high. Also the top players in US don't play "only" arcade version. Didn't some of them, like Sabin, pull out console characters at EVO? :P
Posted by keep it coming on September 30, 2009 at 8:01 a.m. #172
looking forward to super in the mean time i will rank up my honda.
ono seems to be a real sympahetic person, keep doing your thing!!!
the decision of not releasing the game to arcades is of course a business decision and of course its a bad one. but hey at least we will be playing another street fighter title by next year, thankx ono, thankx capcom!!!
Posted by jeff on September 30, 2009 at 8:16 a.m. #173
The real question is, what will happen to your BP and GP? Do you need to start all over again in SUPER SFIV?
Posted by ? on September 30, 2009 at 8:33 a.m. #174
Over again, i'm sorry have you already played SSF4?
Posted by zig_zag on September 30, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. #175
Guys, just because this isn't gonna be released in jap arcades doesn't mean the next one won't be or an alternate in the future.
If i read correctly, jap arcades aren't going so well at the moment (they've seen better days) and owners aren't willing to always shell out for a new game board or what not. There is no real issue, as street fighter iv is still going strong at arcades.
I believe they will upgrade arcades eventually, and obviously they need to fix some balance issues (like sagat kara abuse) but they will probably do it when the game is starting to die down.
Do keep in mind, they have already planned the next national tournament. They still support the arcade game, they haven't lost the faith and we shouldn't in their decision.
Posted by Daisuke on September 30, 2009 at 8:56 a.m. #176
I am outraged that there will not be an arcade version. How else will we all receive the hype by watching pros like Daigo play?
Posted by arcadesaredead on September 30, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. #177
SF4 was arcade beta tested and is still unbalanced.
Posted by yes4me on September 30, 2009 at 9:05 a.m. #178
I personally think all arcades will be a thing of the past for fighting games...
Posted by Double K.O. on September 30, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. #179
PC version please and not too long after the console versions like SF4 was, my money is ready, I'll buy 2 copies.
Phuck the console versions.
Posted by king on September 30, 2009 at 9:16 a.m. #180
@165 that was the old rufus! he was gonna be black but they changed and made him fat then changed again and made him white. also made his cos ken alt cos notice the gold chain and pimp fur(something a black man would have on)
Posted by retarded on September 30, 2009 at 9:27 a.m. #181
they're just catering to console scrubs cause thats where they'll see the most profit, ultimately thats all they care about, profit. They dont give a shiit about what happens to the whole pro scene as long as they can rake in money.
Posted by ... on September 30, 2009 at 9:28 a.m. #182
SSF4 will die out VERY quickly because of this, mark my words.
Posted by king on September 30, 2009 at 9:29 a.m. #183
this how i see it everyone get the game around the same time no Japanese arcade release mean they are not gonna be months ahead of US players. Japanese players always has been getting there hands on games before we can even preorder. well lets see how the evo and turny look now.
'ps im not badmouthing japan but its true
Posted by Stfu on September 30, 2009 at 9:37 a.m. #184
Stop making it seem as if everyone plays on teh Arcade machines. Only the Japanase give a **** about the Aracade.
No one else does (aside from a VERY limited user base in the US)
You people are idiots. The huge user base is at the consoles.
You guys wanted T. Hawk and DeeJay? Well you got them. You will also get atleast 6 other characters. Now stop crying like little b****es.
Posted by sucky on September 30, 2009 at 9:57 a.m. #185
So no PC version confirmed? So us PC gamer we 're again owned in the ass and we will have to play an outdated version of SF4? The online of PC will dissapear(It's already rather low on population) when this version will appears.They can't even Fix the hacked point on pc. .
ROFL and they still sell sf4 for PC .. I purchased it 2-3 month ago and i'm already told that i wasted 50 bucks for nothing because this version will be void in 5-6 month .. Thanks you capcom .. You can ... . .....
I won't purchase a playstation 3 just for an *update* of SF4.
Posted by WHO CARES on September 30, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. #186
screw the arcade.
Posted by LOL on September 30, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. #187
90% of these morons moaning don't even use the arcades. Like the rest of the world. Arcades are a thing in the past. They are just whining because they want to see earlier game footage.
If you want to watch high level of play either use your internet or work your way up to that playing field.
Posted by dude with an opinion on September 30, 2009 at 10:14 a.m. #188
well it's not too late, they might change their minds eventually and make an arcade release.
hehe, maybe they don't want to release this one to the arcades because they already know that a third iteration will come out eventually. Dun dun duuunnnnnn!
hehe
but seriously, I understand that japaneses might be upset about this.
As far as I'm concerned, here, it's not like the arcades are still running strong so it doesn't make that much of a difference. Sure it would be cool and I'd like to see this version come to my arcade, but it's far from being the end of the world.
and to the people crying out about the PC version, seriously, shut up.
There's still chances it'll come to PC a little later, just like the first one, they just didn't talk about it, so calm down.
blablabla, my version will be void in 6 months blablabla.
if you play a game for more than 2 months, that's way more above average than regular games so get a life instead of whining about everything
Posted by Reality Check on September 30, 2009 at 10:18 a.m. #189
This will make SSF4 one of the only arcade-based games that are joining the console-only section next to Soul Calibur 4. With rising costs of building thousands of dollars on arcade machinery and the financial crisis going on, this is a more safe decision for Capcom to ensure they save money rather than place a high risk (though wonders if software updates would cut the costs dramatically using the same Taito X2 board). While arcades are very strong in Japan (though 2009 took a hit), globally it isn't.
With this in mind, with other potential future development projects from competing companies, will Tekken 6.5/7, BlazBlue 2, King of Fighters 13, etc. follow the same strategy (if confirmed)?
Posted by BOBBA LUI on September 30, 2009 at 10:21 a.m. #190
The top points earners in Japan right now should be happy all their current BP won't go to waste as soon.
Posted by Valter on September 30, 2009 at 10:28 a.m. #191
Stop adding new characters! Just make an SF game with every fighter from third strike and alpha 3. Tai Kwon Do isn't even a real fighting style, it won't help you in any kind of defensive situation. Boxing, Muay Thai, and Jo shin ru FTW.
Posted by Poe22222 on September 30, 2009 at 10:40 a.m. #192
Wow, this totally DESTROYS the excitement I had for SSF4. What a downer. CF has been one of the most exciting things I've experienced in NYC, and to think that it will instantly be so outdated when it comes to the most important game in a decade is really really frustrating.
It's also heartbreaking to think that the game might be a complete footnote in Japan. The popularity of anything stems from where it is most popular... NFL Europe only exists because of the NFL. If the NFL were disbanded, NFL Europe would become even more pointless than it already is, and Capcom is basically about to pull the plug on the NFL of competitive fighting game scenes (Japanese SF4 arcade scene).
Wow. I am really upset about this and it almost makes me want to quit playing, because if this is how seriously Capcome is taking SF these days, why should I care either?
Posted by pretty lame on September 30, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. #193
not that there's any arcade around me anymore, but i wish there were, and i feel it for the players in asia, coz i know how awesome it is to playthere
i WISH they'd do this coz console players will get patches to fix oddities, and arcade port will come after that so they don't release a buggy super version too early
Posted by @192 on September 30, 2009 at 10:46 a.m. #194
Don't care then! Don't give a f*ck and stop playing! Along with all te other mindless F*CKS who think that the only real SFIV is in the god damn stupid piece of SH*T ARCADES! F*CK THE ARCADE and F*CK YOU for being so naive! PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE YOU LOVE STREET FIGHTER! NOT BECAUSE YOU LOVE WHAT IT COMES OUT ON! Jesus Christ you idiots are so whiney that even if this announcement wasn't made, you pieces of incoherent SH*TS would STILL be COMPLAINING about NONSENSE!!! QUIT YOUR REPETITIVE CRAP AND MOVE ALONG IF YOU ARE SO UPSET! ASSH*LES!!!!!!!
Posted by SuperV on September 30, 2009 at 10:47 a.m. #195
This is a bad decision.
The best players are the ones that play in arcades lets face it, and i was planning on going to the arcade that had Street Fighter IV, so i can actually get good at the game but i guess there is no need to anymore because they arent going to follow the game up in the arcade.
Posted by Big Fish on September 30, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. #196
I hope the good news for the SF4 owners is tath they do not to unlock all the characters AGAIN.
Posted by CRY BABY on September 30, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. #197
WAAAAH! WAAAAAH! WAAAAAAAH!!! NO ARCADEZ?!!?!!?! WAAAAAAAAAH!!! WAAAAAAAAAH!!! I DON'T EVEN PLAY THE ARCADEZ BUT STILL WANTZ TO TALK FOR ALL OF JAPAN ABOUT HOW THIS WILL RUIN EVERYTHING! WAAAAAAAHHH!!! WAAAAAAH!!! SOMEBODY CHANGE MY DIAPER! OOOOWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!! BABY GOTZ A RASH!!!! I AM ONE OF THE LUCKY FEW WHO HAS PLAYED TEH ARCADEZ BUT SWITCHING TO HOME CONSOLEZ WILL BE TOO BIG OF A CHANGE AND I DUN'T WANT TO PLAY WIF TEH SCRUBZ!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! EVERY CONSOLEZ PLAYERZ IZ A SCRUBZ!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!! YOO CAN'T RECORD MATCHEZ THAT GOOD ON CONSOLEZ!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
Posted by yeah on September 30, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. #198
@ #191
I prefer Saikyo.
Posted by Maddtix on September 30, 2009 at 10:57 a.m. #199
Is there any info to the tweaks they have made thats what i want to know
Posted by turkish boy on September 30, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. #200
#191
i agree..
Posted by Maddtix on September 30, 2009 at 11:13 a.m. #201
the new players are cool WHAT ARE THE TWEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Maddtix on September 30, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. #202
THEY CANT BE SO TOP SECRET....OUT WITH IT MY FAV CHARACTER HAS SOME ISSUES THAT NEEDS FIXED AND WANT TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE DONE ANYTHING WITH
Posted by Should be DLC... on September 30, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. #203
"The best players are the ones who play in arcades" what a total joke. Maybe you didn't realize that not many people here in the states have a local arcade around to waste money playing per turn.
How can us in the states have a chance to be the best at something we DON'T have? Like the rest of the world except Japan.
Arcades are dying down for a reason. Why waste money on them when the Masses themselves uses consoles. Clearly it's a MONEY decision. Good decision too, the only bad one is making this a stand-alone disc when this is clearly just a DLC update.
Posted by @203 on September 30, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. #204
It should be on a disc and not DLC cause some people don't have online and people who are making SSTF4 put a lot of hours into the game so they should get payed to so they should make us pay for the game
Posted by Maddtix on September 30, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. #205
just my thoughts but i think that all ultras should have priority over a JAB!!! A basic move thats stop a ultra is crap ! the only way should be to block or the other ultra done to counter the move. You Take hits for the meter and takes time to build up it is not like you can do it over and over
Posted by halo on September 30, 2009 at 11:36 a.m. #206
#203 how is this clearly just a DLC update? You made such a lengthy argument about how not everyone has access to arcades outside of Japan and completely ignored the fact that in many parts of the world people do not have super high internet speeds and expecting from them to download a total of 10 new characters as well as all other updates, stages etc needed is a joke. If Capcom released all this as DLC only they would NOT sell as much as offering it on disk and as DLC it would also probably cost us gamers even more considering how expensive the costumes where. So what's the fuss? They specify it is priced just as an update and not a full game and good for them, i would much rather walk to my local store and buy the sweet package for around $30-35 than spend hours downloading content
Posted by Should be DLC... on September 30, 2009 at 11:47 a.m. #207
Maybe you guys are right. But one thing for sure is that this WILL split up the community.
Side one
-feels ripped off
-won't buy because of the inevitable Super Street Fighter IV Turbo in 2011
-too CASUAL to have multiple copies of the same game
-brings in more money than the hardcore
Side two
-buys anything Capcom puts out
-Street Fighter addicts
-wants new experince
-brings in less money than the casual
Oh yeah, I'm buying it ONLY for the lobbies. Nothing else.
Posted by dbcm on September 30, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. #208
Thanks CAPCOM keep up the good work!
Posted by Xurkey on September 30, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. #209
By Ono not releasing an arcade version of Super Street Fighter IV, they are making the same mistake Blizzard is making but not including LAN in StarCraft II.
Gross.
Posted by Xurkey on September 30, 2009 at 12:04 p.m. #210
By Ono not releasing an arcade version of Super Street Fighter IV, they are making the same mistake Blizzard is making by not including LAN in StarCraft II.
Gross.
Posted by LOL on September 30, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. #211
I would like to know where these T Hawk fan raves Ono speaks of is at.
Posted by oro on September 30, 2009 at 12:14 p.m. #212
where is oro?
Posted by SSF4THDR on September 30, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. #213
Yes most of us don't use the arcades. But we realize Japan does and console versions might as well not even exist over there. The best players use the arcades because all the best players live in Japan. The amount of people playing and the skill level thereof will be a lot less without an arcade release. If you don't realize this, you must some scrub who knows nothing about this community and just plays flowchart style Ken on XBL. Hell, I've only been SF for about a year and I can tell this isn't a smart move.
Posted by DLC Glitch on September 30, 2009 at 12:35 p.m. #214
@207
There are a few big wrongs with DLC'ing SSFIV:
- Hogs a LOT of hard drive space, if done from scratch.
- Since SSF4 has a lot of changes and additions in the game's balance, if there's a lot of upgrading problems occurring and it became a DLC upgrade, it will be hell not only for programmers to fix, but players as well to exploit or deal with. If people know how programming works, people would understand about conflicts with continuously overwriting and recompiling the game's core.
- DLC patching is simply an excuse to fix later stuff. This only encourages laziness in development.
- The bandwidth and hard drive standards are incapable of doing such massive download.
Also, Ono said it isn't a full-fledged $60 game.
Posted by Guile is a joke on September 30, 2009 at 12:36 p.m. #215
still is
Posted by @213 on September 30, 2009 at 12:45 p.m. #216
Shut the f*ck up! You've only been into SF for a god damn year and think you have the right to talk about anyone else not knowing about sh*t and calling them scrubs? The issue isn't about whether it's a smart move or not. The issue is a bunch of bitchy people complaining when it's completely irrelevant to them. You are obviously a major scrub for even THINKING that Japan doesn't have consoles when they are basically created over there! Get your facts straight and bounce out, because the fact that whether it's a smart move or not is THEIR PROBLEM! They are giving us true fans enough with this re-release and dumb asses as f*cking it up for us anyway they can. All we've asked for was Super Street Fighter IV and now we want even more once it's been announced?! F*CK ALL OF YOU CRYING BITCHES!
Posted by @#216 on September 30, 2009 at 12:50 p.m. #217
ur stupid
Posted by pfft on September 30, 2009 at 12:58 p.m. #218
All this arcade noise. Evolve or die. What is going to happen is that the SF4 youtube trend is going to grow. You will have players making names for themselves while playing other well known players and posting on youtube.
If anything this will increase interest in the big tournaments like the Devastation and EVO because people have been exposed to the players and their personality on youtube. They are looking out for more than just the J.Wongs, John Chois, EdMas and other "pro" gamers. You grow the base of top level players as they get to challenge each other online instead of just in arcades. Yes there will be some lag its unavoidable but its suffered by both people and they can settle it for real during real tournaments.
All this arcade elitism only helps segregate new talent. You can improve your game online as long as you hook up with players at your level or greater. You had a couple of "online" players make waves at EVO.
Posted by Why the fuss? on September 30, 2009 at 1:13 p.m. #219
I don't get all the fuss.
All those people crying out for Japan because they won't get an arcade release so that they won't play it ...
Seriously, why would you care ?
99.9% of the people here will never play with the people from Japan...
Just shut up and enjoy the new game, I know I will
Posted by 2010 on September 30, 2009 at 1:15 p.m. #220
This is the 2010 era
online lobbies > arcades
Posted by Hooded on September 30, 2009 at 1:16 p.m. #221
@212
He is in the conrner playing with his rocks and spying on ryu, he should be out in SSF4 tourbo strike
Posted by Rave_Zero on September 30, 2009 at 1:32 p.m. #222
"XBOX360 & PS3 only this time", what the ....?!?!?!
They should release a PC-Version at the same time! and not 4-6 months later, when all the "hype" has flatten down.
Posted by @222 on September 30, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. #223
hell yeah, cant wait! plus its alot cheaper to just set up a console anywhere u want rather than buying a 20,000 dollar arcade cabinet.
Posted by @222 on September 30, 2009 at 1:42 p.m. #224
i meant @221
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. #225
How many people even play it on the PC?
Posted by Hahaha! on September 30, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. #226
The 10% of the Arcade players got owned!!!
Capcom obviously cares about the 90% (console).
All you f@*gots crying like sissies don't even play on the Arcades haha. Why are you even crying? xD
Posted by robbles on September 30, 2009 at 1:51 p.m. #227
ive had many fond memories going to my local gameworks and playing the arcade version of sfiv. theres just something special and cool about sitting around with some dudes and playing/talking about sf and other fighting games. ive learned more during my sessions at the arcade than i ever have playing on xbl. this announcement is pretty disappointing to me, especially since the street fighter series really made a name for itself in the arcade scene. hopefully they change their minds.
Posted by SF4 GAMER on September 30, 2009 at 1:58 p.m. #228
IN WHICH COUNTRY WOULD U SAY R THE BEST PLAYERS?
(GENERALLY OVERALL)
Posted by Jeremy on September 30, 2009 at 2:04 p.m. #229
I get why Japan might be upset with this, but really it doesn't affect me it all. I'm not going to say anything stupid like "WAAHH!! Capcom doesn't take this game seriously, why should I?!?! *#&$ CAPCOM AND @#$^ STREET FIGHTER!" At least we're getting an updated game, I can't wait.
I'll be enjoying SSF4 come this spring, arcade release or not.
Posted by ROFL scrubs on September 30, 2009 at 2:08 p.m. #230
lmfao listen to all these faggot ass. console scrubs talk as if they're the shiit hahahah, have fun with your flowchart kens xboxlive scrubs, you guys are good.
Posted by classy on September 30, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. #231
wow people here are dumb, like this is gonna affect america, arcades are pretty much dead here and u act like its the end of the world and weve been playing in arcades this whole time... shut up already
Posted by Meh. on September 30, 2009 at 2:29 p.m. #232
The strongest scenes in AMERICA are (without a doubt) NYC and SoCal. Do you think it's any coincidence that both of these scenes have legitimate arcade communitys?
There are alot of good online players, no one can deny that. But to say an arcade community is irrelevent... that's stupid, because the best players in the world -- dudes in Japan and top players in America -- come from the arcades.
Posted by The article from Destructoid: STFU on September 30, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. #233
http://www.destructoid.com/guide-how-...
Posted by Rave_Zero on September 30, 2009 at 2:55 p.m. #234
@ IrPanda
_________________________________________________
QUOTE: on September 30, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. #226
How many people even play it on the PC?
_________________________________________________
Enough to get a sweet afternoon in Europe, I'm sure there would be even more when CAPCOM released SF4 earlier for PC.
_
Hell I can even play on my Notebook online anywhere I want without the need for an XBOX360 or PS3.
And now they say SSF4 will be for XBOX360 and PS3 only, simply ridiculous to leave the PC scene behind and force even more people to move to consoles to be able to play the newest release as soon as possible.
Most people buy games only once, either for PC or console... SF4 was released months earlier on consoles and CAPCOM is still wondering about lower PC sales???
Just a reminder: most households nowadays have a PC and there are also tons of USB gamepads/joysticks without having to play on a keyboard.
Posted by Haha stfu LOL. on September 30, 2009 at 3:06 p.m. #235
@233
Oh yea the Arcade scene is big? **** out of here with that shyt LMAO.
Yes there's players in NYC and in SoCal but a select FEW. The total amount of ARCADE players over here in SOcal that take it seriously is only about 20-30 players. The ones that always play the same tourneys etc etc. They are always the same one I never see a new face.
Same goes for the East Coast players same 10 players they have everytime haha.
However, on consoles there's thousands of players compared to your 30 hardcore arcade players.
How stupid can you be?
This is plain first grade match here. Why will capcom waste their time on 30 american players when there's thousands on the console versions? LMAO.
Stop crying f@ggots :D
Posted by LOOL #236 on September 30, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. #236
rofl damn arent you that pro flowchart ken on live? damn you guys are good. lawl hahaha, you guys are all just pussies that cant play for shiit so you stick to your lame ass scrubby live play hahaha.
Posted by ARCADE = #1 on September 30, 2009 at 3:13 p.m. #237
Who cares?
As long as they still have that machine with the crane that lets you win stuffed animals and House of the Dead 2 I'll be there playing REAL games!
You whiny little biyaches!!!! I'll beat ANY of youz at air hockey!
What?!
Posted by @236 on September 30, 2009 at 3:16 p.m. #238
Uh, dude, those few players who make use of the arcades in NYC and SoCal are the best players in the country.
J-Wong.
Sabin.
Santhrax.
Ed Ma.
Valle.
Combofiend.
etc.
Posted by Meh. on September 30, 2009 at 3:20 p.m. #239
@236:
Thats exactly my point dude, you just dont see the beauty of it.
Those scenes that have "a few" regular arcade players are turning out the BEST players in America.
Note the correlation between an arcade scene (of any size, whatever) and skill level.
Dumbass.
Posted by Stop Crying :) on September 30, 2009 at 3:27 p.m. #240
@239 and who gives a shyt? Wow 6 players? You really are a ****ing idiot huh?
Capcom is a company and all they care about is MONEY yes that's right money :)
Why the **** should they give a damn about 6 players? Do you honestly believe that Capcom is going to make aracde machines just for 6 ****ing players>? Muahahahahahahaha!!!
Hahahahaha!
That was an awesome laugh man thank you ^_^
You are more of a ****ing idiot than I thought haha.
Like other people have posted already, the ones who will cry and have more of a right to do so are the japanese since they have a much greater population that actually PLAYS on the arcade machines. Outside of Japan it does not matter at all.
I'll make it simple for your retarded mind. It's just not worth the effort to put this out on the arcade just for 6 players that want it. Get it? :)
Haha.
Posted by ROFL on September 30, 2009 at 3:30 p.m. #241
its funny that all the people that are for this also happen to be shiitty ass xbox live scrubs, lawlz.
Posted by Lonely Virgin on September 30, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. #242
I love to complain about video games because I can't get laid. No girl wants my morbidly obese, pimply a$$. True story.
Posted by Bobba Lui on September 30, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #243
What's an arcade?
Posted by roflz #243 on September 30, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. #244
rofl what a fckin scrub, obviously you havent been to one and therefore you are scrub. jack off to your xbox live more kthnx
Posted by waya121 on September 30, 2009 at 3:56 p.m. #245
Ono thought SFIV was perfectly balanced? Gota be kiding me... he must not of tested SFIV by himself.
Posted by Bobba Lui on September 30, 2009 at 3:57 p.m. #246
uh oh, someone sounds poopy. did u get your nap today rofl?
Again what is an arcade, and why should I care?
Posted by Stop Crying Pt2 :) on September 30, 2009 at 4:05 p.m. #247
Another thing I would like to mention is the fact that in EVER tourney that i've seen here in America they always seem to use the CONSOLE version of the game and NOT the ARCADE version haha.
****ing f@ggots crying about the Arcade version, but yet they use the ****ing console version in tourneys hahahaha.
Face it f@ggots the arcades have been dead for about 10 ****ing years now. Truth hurts doesn;t it? :)
Now cry maor!! xD
Also, for that f@ggot who tried to say that I was a flowchart ken scrub...WRONG! Just proves that you are a ****ing idiot as well.
I main Rose in Sf4 and i'm actually pretty good with her. One of the most lowest tier characters in the game and I still put it down on most Ryu's, Sagat's, and Blankas. No Scrub here f@ggot.
Now go suck Ono's d1ck maybe then he'll want to put this on the Arcades as well.
Posted by lawl @ jerry lawl-er on September 30, 2009 at 4:18 p.m. #248
takes one to know one...ooooooooooooww (knuckle snaps)
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 4:53 p.m. #249
Irony lol, people complaining about people complaining .
Posted by @IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 5:19 p.m. #250
We are sticking up for the game that everyone wanted and bashing those who can find anything wrong with the new iteration and want to bitch.
@245
I am all about PSN which I've never had a problem with messing other people up with no noticible lag whatsoever. Get off your bull sh*t XBOX Live talk because there are many more like me who use the PS3 and are still fine with no whack Arcade enough to the point where we wouldn't turn our backs on a game just because of no Arcade release. People like to talk about how the best players use the Arcade? I bet they have their sticks at home and are looking forward to the new release because they LOVE THE GAME, NOT THE ARCADE. They might prefer Arcade, but I am sure that if they saw so many of you trying to speak out for them, they would laugh in your faces and tell you to face the fact that no matter how much you b*tch online, you won't be getting your Arcade release at all or at least anytime soon. I find it extra fantastic that the majority of you bitching won't have anything changed if they were to even release an Arcade version except gawking at other guys playing it while you masturbate. Get friends who play the game, get their code, and play against them if you don't want to wait in a lobby and possibly fight against a scrub. POSSIBLY. Get real you clowns. I am glad to have a new release rather than no release. How about you think about that?
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 5:42 p.m. #251
@251
Wanting it in the arcade isn't saying anything is wrong with the game. Thats like bashing people who want it on the pc?
Posted by sorta silly on September 30, 2009 at 6:03 p.m. #252
I think it should go to arcades as well as consoles/pc.
So many top players in america only play in arcades, that being said many of them have purchased consoles for extra practice...
Most of them do not play online because of the lag and lack of real competition.
I see where they are coming from with not making this an arcade title though. There just isn't enough people who actually play in arcades anymore.
I guess everyone will just have to switch to tekken, blazblue, or go back to 3s.
Posted by arcades!! on September 30, 2009 at 6:10 p.m. #253
I'm not an arcade player but I am bummed that they're not going to release this game in the arcades. I play SF4 casually online and I also enjoy watching top competition battling over supremacy. What I mean by top competition is not only the guys here in the states (such as Justin, Ed Ma, Valle, Marn, etc...) but also the guys in Japan such as Daigo and Mago.
In Japan the top level guys are only playing arcades so they have a huge disadvantage over console characters. A good example is when Dan from Japan got his ass whooped by Sanford's Cammy at Evo this year. Not taking anything away from Sanford but I feel if Capcom had updated the arcades with the console characters maybe Dan from Japan might have had a better chance. Even Daigo himself has admitted that he hates fighting the console characters.
With Super Street Fighter 4 not coming to the arcades I think what we're going to see in the future are less battles between top level Japanese players and top level US players since the Japanese are probably going to stick with the arcades and the US will adapt to the new Super SF4. As a fan of watching EVO its gonna be a bummer to not have these epic international battles.
Posted by lawlawlawlawl on September 30, 2009 at 6:18 p.m. #254
lawl all fckin console nubs, come out and play you pussies
Posted by Hahaha! @ 248 on September 30, 2009 at 6:52 p.m. #255
Best post ever LOL.
As rude as that guy sounds, he knows what he's talking about.
Posted by @IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 6:55 p.m. #256
There is a difference in wanting and whining. How many of these turds are saying how they would abondon SSFIV because of no Arcade release? To those who are being cool about it and understanding their place, I don't insult. It's the cheap asses like #255 who want to try and turn everything around on the Console players when the people like him started up all this drama.
@255
What argument do you have, chump? Nothing! The only thing you keep blabbering about is saying that all console players are scrubz wen in reality, I can gaurantee that even top Arcade players play the console version at home with TE Sticks when they don't want to go out. I'd rather spend my gaming time playing at my house or even at a friend's personally, then after I am done playing for a bit, I will really go out and do other things. I don't care to go to someplace to play a game that I can easily play at home. The only 'nub' is your disgraceful ass and your petty insults with nothing to back them up. As said before, it's one thing to want, but to sit there and bitch and complain when unneccassary in as retarded as you are seeming.
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 7:14 p.m. #257
@257
Yea i see what you mean....fine example btw lol...
Posted by irony on September 30, 2009 at 7:18 p.m. #258
PPL COMPLAINING BOUT PPL COMPLAINING
I LOVE IT
BITCH MORE PLZ !!!!
Posted by Douchebag on September 30, 2009 at 7:46 p.m. #259
I don't see what is the big f*cking deal. Come Spring 2010 (if Super SFIV comes out that time), I'm gonna waltz right in my local GameStop and grab the PS3 version of the game.
Posted by f*ck the ARCADES!! on September 30, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. #260
F@GGOTS!!!!
Posted by @IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 8:08 p.m. #261
I am very glad you see my point. I know you are one who wants the Arcade as do I, but the fact that it isn't being released isn't going to cause me to bad mouth and bitch at Capcom. Then again, I am also a person who actually enjoyed SFIV and wouldn't have had a problem had it been the only version released. Even though I am completely stoked about this new release, I guess I just might be too leniant or whatever. The only problem I really ever had anyway was Gouki's Super and Ultra since I main with him. I believe right when it touches you, the move should activate, similar to how Dan's Ultra does. Also, I am happy to see someone like you who can actually take a moment to understand the other side and talk it out rather than get angered and keep bitching like a lot of these arses. :3
Posted by Wow :O on September 30, 2009 at 8:12 p.m. #262
Ono's English is really good :O
Posted by Arturo Sabin on September 30, 2009 at 8:24 p.m. #263
Come on guys, let's not forget that Capcom is a franchise. This is a silly dispute and really should be put to rest already. Please don't be mad at Capcom even if it is rather sucky that they won't have an arcade release. They still are giving us an update and I for one will surely be purchasing Super Street Fighter IV and playing it at home on my stick. I will still be hoping that Capcom will release it later on for arcade, but if not, who am I to be so angry and hateful?
I might not agree with a lot of foul language being thrown out here for those getting angry at the people who are mad about not having an aracade release, but they truly have a point. Most of you are taking this too far and too seriously. It's a video game. I will definitely be posting videos once I finally get to play and I am almost sure that other top players will be still playing and posting videos too that we all would love for you to watch and learn from. It is not the end of the world nor is it the end of Street Fighter. Let's keep it together and keep on having fun. This doesn't need to be a war. Thank you.
- Sabin
Posted by IrPanda on September 30, 2009 at 8:53 p.m. #264
@262
His super does connect as soon as it touches , and if the ultra connected the same way that would be broken because akuma already has great combo ability. you just have to learn to bait them to do certain moves and learn to cancel from certain things o catch them in it.
Posted by delicious on October 1, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. #265
Im delicious
Posted by AnD PC on October 1, 2009 at 7:19 p.m. #266
and PC?
Posted by J on October 2, 2009 at 12:24 a.m. #267
@143: So the claim is "spending money and having people watching produces better fighters?" LOL. A serious player gives every match his all.
This is a childish idea that was played out many years ago in the FPS community, where a few spazzes claimed that the only "real" FPS players were at LAN parties and no one good played on the Internet. No one listened to them, either.
Posted by Madness on October 2, 2009 at 1:49 a.m. #268
I really hope PC version comes out at the same time as all of the others this time. It's just a better game with better connections,more costumes,customizable music and portraits and stages...plus, pretty much EVERYONE has a computer! It's the obvious choice really,consoles are just trying to be like PC's anyways.
Posted by Ryan on October 7, 2009 at 7:04 a.m. #269
Does it mean that arcade sales of the original SF4 was lower then expected? Thats really sad.
Posted by Flashy on May 16, 2011 at 11:32 p.m. #270
No arcade release huh?
Damn.
