Rumors: Super Street Fighter 4 details

Posted by mike on September 24, 2009 at 3:50 p.m. #1

what about blanka, no information about improving his pokes and combos?

Posted by stubbs on September 24, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #2

Why would they need to improve a high tier character

Posted by hmmm... on September 24, 2009 at 3:52 p.m. #3

Pretty sweet stuff.

Posted by Trent on September 24, 2009 at 3:53 p.m. #4

WOW THIS IS BIG NEWS
I HOPE ITS REAL
BUT IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO B TRUE

Posted by Peruvian Turd on September 24, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. #5

I'm liking what I am hearing so far!

Posted by Peruvian Turd on September 24, 2009 at 3:56 p.m. #6

Seems like a lot of detail for it to be totally fake.

Posted by xbanditx on September 24, 2009 at 3:56 p.m. #7

So...

I'm guessing we won't see this "new game" until atleast FEB 10'.

Posted by B-jamin on September 24, 2009 at 3:58 p.m. #8

Damn, I hae to gree with Trent. Thi sounds waaaaay to good to be true, but I am definitely supporting this and behind it all the way! Go Super Street Fighter 4!!!

Posted by The Question on September 24, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. #9

I want this to be real. The only questionable thing is the baby oil obsessed Arabic grappler. He'll have some hold that will disturb you... :P

Posted by Alex F. on September 24, 2009 at 4:01 p.m. #10

Please let this be real.
I'll buy even if it's on a whole different disk. cause with all these additions (Sonic Hurrican FTW) I don't about it being compatable with SF4 and then if it was a download how could you possibly play with those people online who don't have this. Either way I'm buying.

Posted by Jem on September 24, 2009 at 4:02 p.m. #11

Baby oil? Where does it say that? I think they mean oil out of the ground.......

Hope all of this is true and Able and Dudley become top tier! ;)

Posted by Peruvian Turd on September 24, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. #12

I'll bet this 95% accurate...."Ibuki has a run command". Who the hell would make that up?

Posted by Vaarp on September 24, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. #13

Awesome!

Posted by Peruvian Turd on September 24, 2009 at 4:12 p.m. #14

Definitely enough content for a new disk....if all the rumors are true.

Posted by Low Quality UK on September 24, 2009 at 4:14 p.m. #15

If even a portion of this is true I will be a happy boy next year !

I was only expecting a slight update with a couple of new characters .... but if they give us those bunch of characters and all those gameplay additions ... I have a new favourite fighting game next year !

Posted by sad on September 24, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. #16

Wow, I was wondering that if someone wanted to spread rumours, why wouldn't they write a short to seem even slightly plausible, instead of slamming down everything they can pull out of their asses. But I guess the 13 gullible idiots above me answered that.

Posted by okaleey on September 24, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. #17

I'm waiting to hear from the "I'm not giving another cent to CAPCOM" :).

Posted by conchuatz on September 24, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. #18

They need to improve Fei Long, why is Abel out of all characters have dynamic movement and Fei Long still retains these "90s" special moves that are boring and ghey!

Plus where is Yang & Yun - these guys have unique moves and have a following? seriously Cody & Makoto and even Ibuki
waste of time characters! nobody will use these fags,

improve El Fuerte combo game!

Posted by ddee on September 24, 2009 at 4:19 p.m. #19

Sounds like MUGEN if you ask me.

Posted by i will on September 24, 2009 at 4:20 p.m. #20

^ i'll use makoto

Posted by Peruvian Turd on September 24, 2009 at 4:21 p.m. #21

Damn #16 you are sad. Someone give this guy a cookie.

Posted by Nyoronoru on September 24, 2009 at 4:21 p.m. #22

Holy smokes! They did an amazing reconstruction!

But no Dictator news... curses

Posted by halo on September 24, 2009 at 4:22 p.m. #23

# Hakan - An Arabic grappler obsessed with oil."

Judging by the name and the whole oil-wrestling thing this guy would be from Turkey and not Arabic (not the same) which is wild cause, believe it or not, i was thinking it would be interesting to feature a Turkish wrestler and given the population of Turkey it would also garner a lot of potential buyers for Capcom

Posted by Don on September 24, 2009 at 4:26 p.m. #24

I'm not gonna put my hopes on this.

Seriously. If it's real, then, COOL, but I'm really not counting on it.

Posted by Madness on September 24, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #25

The version of sonic hurricane from Marvel vs capcom 2? Wow that's gonna be freakin crazy

Posted by pray4fuerteairultra on September 24, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #26

I HOpe that Fuerte is one of these Air Ultra ppl. And I know this games not coming out this or next year if it does have that much new content. Maybe 2011.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 24, 2009 at 4:32 p.m. #27

woow that is alot of characters to choose from :O and alot of new stuff to learn

Posted by Ave on September 24, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. #28

Its missing Alex, thats about it. Oh and air block.

Posted by rede on September 24, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. #29

Oh street fighter gods hear my prayers. All of the above to be true and lots of stages and much better animation for cut scenes.

Posted by HUGO on September 24, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. #30

HUGO

Posted by geez on September 24, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. #31

screw air block

Posted by Flawless on September 24, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. #32

Big Ups to EVENTHUBS for always being the first ones to tell us these rumors much respect. TIME TO GET HYPED!

Posted by sweetley on September 24, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. #33

sweeet but does that mean dudley is after Vega and not Lolrog?

Posted by @32 on September 24, 2009 at 4:42 p.m. #34

these rumors been circulating all day and event hubs just posted it.. i doubt they were the first to tell us.. LOL

Posted by Jar on September 24, 2009 at 4:44 p.m. #35

I suppose I am in the minority here, but I really didn't want any drastic changes in the game this soon. This almost seems like an entirely new game.

Who knows how adding so many extra moves is going to balance the game. I disliked ultras to begin with. How many matches do you need to dominate akuma and then make a simple mistake and lose half your life bar to his ultra?

That being said, to have a leak of this much information at once seems fishy.

Posted by yes4me on September 24, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. #36

rofl... that's how they balance the game? By making it more complicated... well I guess people need a reason for buying it. I dunno know if Zangief air ultra will be guard breaking... or more like suddenly annoying for the Zangief player. I am glad for Gen... anyhow first of all they are rumors and I don't think we will see them in the next 6 months/1 year on PC. SF4 is still going to be the same for a while...

Posted by Correcting #23 on September 24, 2009 at 4:48 p.m. #37

He's obsessed with oil like you put in your car or manufacture products with, not the kind you slather on your baby mama's onion booty.

I don't understand how so many people interpret this incorrectly.

Posted by The Question on September 24, 2009 at 4:52 p.m. #38

Damn, i was joking. People take me too seriously ( & fyi we use KY). However, Hakan is actually a turkish name. Turkish wrestles do lather themselves up with oil before they fight to make it harder for their opponents to get a grip on them.
I'm just throwing out (see what i did there) what someone else said on SRK but I would really like to see this guy being unthrowable. HAKAN THE ANTI GIEF!

Posted by The Question on September 24, 2009 at 4:54 p.m. #39

Also doesn't Juri sound like Juli? Evil henchmenette?

Posted by Correcting Correcting on September 24, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. #40

Oilwrestling is a Turkish national sport. Its a bunch of guys covered in olive-oil, with that they wrestle.

Posted by Jcool813 on September 24, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. #41

@26
it shouldn't take that long if they are going to have arcade tests.

this sounds crazy. im happy about the rufus news. i can't wait to play with all of the new characters.

Posted by lobby guy on September 24, 2009 at 5 p.m. #42

as long as there is a lobby room if not this sucks!

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 24, 2009 at 5:01 p.m. #43

its alot of new everything on this and hopefully we can finally choose what ultra and super art to choose from and I hope Akuma raging demon is invunerable or he can choose a different super and or ultra

@ shin arnoldo we need to practice man so we can be ahead of the class on the update

Posted by Kurdminator on September 24, 2009 at 5:03 p.m. #44

@38

Not trowable, exept command trows. im guessing.

Posted by ryan on September 24, 2009 at 5:04 p.m. #45

are you serious? MAKOTO IS AWESOME. GODLIKE. I HOPE SHE'S JUST AS GODLIKE

Posted by 9H73M on September 24, 2009 at 5:08 p.m. #46

Makoto is Gouken's daughter.

Posted by AKDizzle on September 24, 2009 at 5:11 p.m. #47

please please please improve ken's FB

Posted by zafo999 on September 24, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. #48

Tanden Renki?! That's awful. We need Makoto's SA2!

Posted by WTF! on September 24, 2009 at 5:21 p.m. #49

Rufus can now cancel break some last hits now!? Quit giving that gay ass character shiitt to gain advantages with. He can already ultra link from his a-hole and every where in between.

Posted by ERNESTO "CHE" MANDINGO on September 24, 2009 at 5:21 p.m. #50

Would've rather had Urien and Q (among others) than Cody and Guy, even though I'm sure they'd turn Urien into a projectile spammer.

Posted by Jayy on September 24, 2009 at 5:22 p.m. #51

Q would have been awesome.

Posted by Pepperpot on September 24, 2009 at 5:22 p.m. #52

Air ultras? I'd rather have air blocks.

Posted by Hadouken on September 24, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. #53

Hmmm if this is true, I wonder how many of the new chars would be console only or if everyone who was previously a console char in SF4 would be in the arcade version with some of the new ones (like Cody) as a console char or if everyone would be in the arcade version?

Posted by ZeroWolf on September 24, 2009 at 5:25 p.m. #54

I still dont believe this is legit.

Posted by OMG on September 24, 2009 at 5:26 p.m. #55

This better not be fake....

Posted by MC Ed McMahon on September 24, 2009 at 5:27 p.m. #56

Objective #1: IMPROVE THE DAMNED NETCODE.

Posted by OG on September 24, 2009 at 5:27 p.m. #57

@ 49

Agree. Rufus can already cancel too easily into his Ultra.

Posted by Kingfisher on September 24, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. #58

As long as Makoto has all her stuff from 3rd strike I'm happy.

Posted by Violent Lucidity on September 24, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. #59

Not to worry, frugal folks. Most likely, even if this were all 100% confirmed, it probably wouldn't be released for a good 3-5 years.

Of course, that's pretty much just wishful thinking and estimation on my part. *sweatdrop*

Posted by @59 on September 24, 2009 at 5:34 p.m. #60

The revisions to 3 and Alpha were roughly a year apart, give or take. This is nothing new.

Posted by YOOWWWWWW! on September 24, 2009 at 5:36 p.m. #61

Was hoping to hear something about Vega :/

Posted by geodude on September 24, 2009 at 5:38 p.m. #62

New alt-costumes would be appreciated (free of charge pls?).

Looking forward to Tadan Saving! And Chun's new ultra!

For consoles, a better tournament mode and lobbies!

Posted by Champion on September 24, 2009 at 5:39 p.m. #63

48 Speaks for truth. Makoto is too amazing to pass up on this game. Possibly an extras disk that plays off of your sf4 save file or install.

Posted by SuperV on September 24, 2009 at 5:40 p.m. #64

Wow Im really overwhelmed, im still learning a lot about SF4 and they have to bring in a second ultra for each character. I'll be ready for this game when they release it.

Posted by Anonymous on September 24, 2009 at 5:50 p.m. #65

If Capcom does this right, this may be the best fighting game of all time.

Kanye West: "OF ALL TIME"

Posted by mike on September 24, 2009 at 5:58 p.m. #66

respond to #2

well, if you look at tournaments you barely see blanka players. Now, i'm not saying to make him stronger but make him combo/poke more. There is a reason he is not in many tournaments.

Posted by Jaf on September 24, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. #67

So it'll be Dan and Sakura with 2 Supers then?

Posted by Kanye West on September 24, 2009 at 6 p.m. #68

im really happy for you super street fighter 4, and imma let you finish... but street fighter alpha series had one of the best updates of all time!!!!!!!

Posted by SureYouCan! on September 24, 2009 at 6:09 p.m. #69

'Gief with air ultra sounds like a nightmare.

Posted by Gravler on September 24, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. #70

This seems pretty fake, well - aside from a couple of points at least.

Sonic Hurricane could be the one thing that saves Guile :S

Posted by This was worth it on September 24, 2009 at 6:15 p.m. #71

LOL @ Kanye West.

I love that meme...

Posted by Ty Webb on September 24, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #72

We need more ultras! I want to be able to win a round without doing any non-ultra moves.

Posted by Some Guy on September 24, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. #73

this theoretical Hakan character could be from Iran, as they have a rather rich wrestling tradition. Now if they allow him to "place opponents in camel clutch, break back, [threaten sodomy] and make humble, just like old country way", I'd mark out.

Posted by Serious Bet on September 24, 2009 at 6:27 p.m. #74

I think this game will be ready for console release by January of 2010....past expansions for the SF series took less than a year to be released.

Posted by yflow on September 24, 2009 at 6:36 p.m. #75

Wow. That would be an entirely different game. I don't buy it, and I'm not sure I want that to be true.

Posted by @59 on September 24, 2009 at 6:37 p.m. #76

lol i don't want to be your employer if you think that sort of update would take 3-5 years.... probably wouldnt be very productive...

Lol you said 100% true... did you even read the rumors... that they're already having Arcade Location Tests.

Posted by Igotdembombs on September 24, 2009 at 6:42 p.m. #77

Lol Arabian thirst for oil? That's pretty racist. Although my name makes it kinda ironic.

I really want that Kikosho. The ultras being the same ish as the supers seemed like a lazy compromise on capcoms part.

Posted by Graphi on September 24, 2009 at 6:47 p.m. #78

Thanks for listing all the rumors.

One tip to Dudley: go to a flower shop.

Posted by JerseyFame on September 24, 2009 at 6:56 p.m. #79

Sonic Hurricane improves Guiles Punishment and combo game greatly...

but the question is:

Will he have a plethora of ways to juggle you into his new ultra. Also...does he still hit like a girl and get stunned like a baby.

If you actually made him "Man enough" to fight then Im happy. Giving an extra move thats already nerfed before I even get to use it will suck major ass.

My two cents.

Posted by fdsfg on September 24, 2009 at 6:58 p.m. #80

Sakura's Shinku Haduoken shoots in the air please....

Posted by -anto. on September 24, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. #81

"There's a new gameplay system called Tadan Saving, the phrase implies a multi-hitting or multiple-level Focus Attack"

Nice! With the current FA absorbs, This sounds like it
could be used as a form of 'parrying'.
I hope it costs Ultra meter as well as life meter at risk.

FA in the air would be nice too.

* sf3~leading to ~sf3,3s

sf3 = 10 characters

sf3,2s = +3 characters, EX moves were added. parry
tweaked.

sf3,3s = +6 characters. (+1 in consoles)
some moves were gone, some new ones were in.
red parry..

I'm not sure how long it took before sf3,3s arrived, but
adding 10 characters to their roster as next expansion
sounds like a possibility, wouldn't u say?

Posted by ARJ08 on September 24, 2009 at 7:04 p.m. #82

wow man, all in all, I just hope that it's balanced as much as possible and not like f*cking SF3

Posted by Terence on September 24, 2009 at 7:05 p.m. #83

to #73

Oh yes ! and i hope they make Guile topless.
cos that'd be the only consolation price for me right now.

Posted by Lolento on September 24, 2009 at 7:06 p.m. #84

@#51

No need, Balrog's already in the game.

Posted by i love capcom and eventhubs on September 24, 2009 at 7:10 p.m. #85

i freakin love you guys, why do you two always have to get everything right, and just when you think you cant get any better...BOOM...you surpass your previous achievements...keep up the good work and this game sounds like 1 million times better than the first one, bye

Posted by shannaro!!! on September 24, 2009 at 7:15 p.m. #86

"Juri - Evil Asian girl fighter working for Seth."

I LOL'd!
If all this is true, then Viper needs to watch her back!

Posted by Yunzi on September 24, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. #87

This is only good news if they can balance out the characters...and their ultras..which I think is going to be almost impossible..

They better buff the weak characters in this game...like Blanka, Rose, Sakura, Fei Long, Bison, Honda, Gouken, ...or basically every character not named Sagat, Ryu, Balrog and Akuma.

I would even go as far as nerfing these 4 characters so players might actually try out new characters...it is so boring to fight the same few characters over and over again online..

Posted by Me on September 24, 2009 at 7:21 p.m. #88

The main thing I would love to be included in this game, a better online experience.

1.Automatic match making system(no longer can you choose who you play in ranked and championship games.
2.Lan-latency online experience.
3.If you disconnect you'll get lose, and the other will get win(this will for sure stop/discourage disconnects).
4.Pc and xbox players should be able to play against each other.

I'm sure there is so much more that can be improve upon. But right now i think this is the most important.

Posted by MJ on September 24, 2009 at 7:22 p.m. #89

wow u guys believe this sh1t? lol ya funny
quit spreading dumb rumors eventhubs just to get hits

Posted by vega on September 24, 2009 at 7:24 p.m. #90

so claw will still be useless and that sucks cause no one is similar to him. he aint gotta be godlike but a lil stronger. chip on claw pokes and slight hit box fixes pls and im happy. oh keep bloody high claw and add another ultra. that seems good.

Posted by respond to vega on September 24, 2009 at 7:26 p.m. #91

chip on claw poke.
That would for sure be unbalanced.

Posted by NIG on September 24, 2009 at 7:31 p.m. #92

i hope sf4 is faster pace... some of those rumors seem odd too. I would rather see selectable super styles like 3s over 2 in one ultra options.

Hope it turns out well

Posted by vega on September 24, 2009 at 7:31 p.m. #93

@92. if not that then something that bumps him up to b tier rank

Posted by Bwahaha!!!! on September 24, 2009 at 7:36 p.m. #94

Please buff sagat he needs to be stronger than ever. also ryu' balrog, give akuma 1200 stamina and nerf rose, fei long, sakura. and more invicible frames for ken. make him godlike

Posted by Rufus is fat on September 24, 2009 at 7:38 p.m. #95

I'm sure atleast half of the above is true...I love living up the advantages of rog but it would be great to see the playing field leveled. And what's with fast fat guys? Rufus and Bob from Tekken 6 must eat at the same meth enhanced steroid filled burger joint or something... Rufus does not need any enhancements if anything he should b slowed down or other chars should b sped up. Does Rufus follow the physics of a planet where he weighs less than cammy?

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 7:45 p.m. #96

@84
I guess you can wait to see a topless guile lmao.

But why no gouken in arcades.

Posted by Harima on September 24, 2009 at 7:51 p.m. #97

IBUKI!!!!!!!!
GUY!!!!!!!
yes, yes, yes love how they brought back the characters with more quick, mix-up game.

<3 Capcom <3

Posted by lingy wings on September 24, 2009 at 7:51 p.m. #98

yo what kind of is that, the wii is for mario and u guys from capcom should be brining it out for ps3 an X360. that is not fair but since yall doin hd version u shud do an version of capcom vs snk high def darkstalkers high def.

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 7:53 p.m. #99

And to all you who are jsut assuming that they didn't change the other characters , its obvious the would of nerfed and buff some characters do you really think they would of left sagat so powerful and leave characters like vega and fuete where they stand at .. come on. Plus i'm sure the extra ultras and the new FA would also charged up the game a bit, so i don't think much people need to worry. For all we know Vega my be next top tier >_>.

Posted by dell57 on September 24, 2009 at 7:53 p.m. #100

am a blanka player g1e.his pokes is crazy c.mp and standing mk or mp puts u in a distant where no1 can mix u up.have great range. he just need his light kick to be longer cause i get grabbed easily wen doing it unlike da other characters that prevent u from grabbing.more priority on vertical roll.even though mk links wid ultra timing and distance strick.needs a link or combo into ultra.and allow him to kick,punch after a block ball wen he recovers or control da movement like bisons head stomp.

Posted by blah on September 24, 2009 at 8 p.m. #101

Zangief is said to have a 720 degree motion Air Ultra called the Siberian Blizzard.

LMFAO YEAH CAUSE HE REALLY NEEDS THIS.

Posted by SSJ3X on September 24, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. #102

Well... all I can say is, this is gonna get another National Tournament... I'm sure of it, and we'll all be ready to take on the world again.

I'm so excited!!

Posted by mJ on September 24, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. #103

i can see this game becoming so unbalanced...

Posted by wat on September 24, 2009 at 8:05 p.m. #104

No playable Seth in the arcade update? :(

Other then that, this update looks great.

Posted by Jay on September 24, 2009 at 8:09 p.m. #105

Lol people thinking Akuma's Ultra is too strong when there is only one way to land it with out a reversal. How many ways can Ryu land his ultra? Oh, only about ten.

Not to mention thinking Blanka is a "weak" character.

You people are lunatics.

Posted by Maan on September 24, 2009 at 8:12 p.m. #106

Dont worry , sagat and maybe blanka will be top tiers as always.

Posted by idiots on September 24, 2009 at 8:14 p.m. #107

seriously

Posted by Takayanagi on September 24, 2009 at 8:17 p.m. #108

A Arabic Character Damn im down to this!! :``) because im ARABIC GUY :P

Posted by CPT SHOTO on September 24, 2009 at 8:17 p.m. #109

I was really hoping to hear something about reducing Sagat's power in someway. He's too overpowered and coupled with online lag he can pretty much just do what he wants in some match-ups.

Posted by Jose on September 24, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. #110

If all of this is real, then this will be one more reason to enjoy Street Fighter 4. I just wish that they would have Blanka's Verical Rolling Attack like in SF2 Turbo.

Posted by this is fake on September 24, 2009 at 8:21 p.m. #111

lol sagat isnt overpowered your brain is underpowered

Posted by the truth on September 24, 2009 at 8:26 p.m. #112

wow...no sagat will not stay top in a game with 34 chaaracters excluding him. he will upper mid tier but not top. if anything 3s characters will be top with guy cody if they fix claw he will be to. possibley dee jay and boxer will top also. boxer is top already and dee jay is gonna be to because he will be to solid. fireball solid normals and of course cross up cr.jap cr.jap cr. short up kicks into ultra.lol

Posted by Ahmed on September 24, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #113

Hmmm, Metsu Shoryuken? Do you think that is going to be Akumas new ultra? I would rather they gave him his Metsats hadouken/Zanku metsats Super, like he had in 3rd strike.

I bet they are giong to F*** over akuma and give him his ground smash ultra from 3rd strike. Damn you capcom!!! Give akuma a hit confirm special!!!

Posted by Vinnie on September 24, 2009 at 8:28 p.m. #114

@2: because he's not high tier? Look at any of the recent tier rankings, he's no way near high tier as he was when the game first came out.

Hell, look at how far Blanka gets in *any* of the SF4 tournies of this year. Given his specialty consists mainly of pokes and his Ultra (while near-lethal) is unreliable, the pros are finding he's not nearly as powerful as they once thought.

But then again, at the level the anti-Blanka players here seem to play at, they just can't see his weaknesses.

Posted by JerseyFame's Boyfriend on September 24, 2009 at 8:30 p.m. #115

Agreed with "this is fake"

Posted by TheBedroomBeast on September 24, 2009 at 8:31 p.m. #116

LOL agreed.

Why the hell should someone already high tier be buffed?

If anything, Blanka should be nerfed, along with ryu, sagat, balrog, Zangief etc

Vega and Sakura should be buffed

Posted by Jay on September 24, 2009 at 8:36 p.m. #117

They could start by taking away every combo ultra ryu has except FADC or Crumple.

Why does he need ten ways to confirm an ultra? Hell he can trade an srk and still land an ultra. Why should he be rewarded for a traded hit? That makes no sense at all. Not to mention everything else about him is completely solid.

Ryu is worse then Sagat imo.

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. #118

Everyone complaining about who got buffed and who didn't is dumb because they probably changed at least one thing with all the charcter i doubt any would be coming back exactly the same( excluding 2nd ultra). They just don't add stuff they may also take some stuff away.

Posted by the thruth on September 24, 2009 at 8:41 p.m. #119

i second this. ryu is better then sagat. ryu is to good in this game. not everyone works on him either. all the top characters need to be either nerfed or the rest of the cast all 20 of the present cast needs to be buffed up by alot. all the top characters can combo into ultra or have god like normals. while everyone else struggles just to keep up.

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 8:44 p.m. #120

Ryu is better but sagat has better match up against the rest of the cast.

Posted by loldotcom on September 24, 2009 at 8:45 p.m. #121

Rumors.

But rumors with details on EVERY SINGLE DETAIL of said rumored game.

Give me a break.

Posted by Blanka on September 24, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. #122

I am a very weak character in SFIV...I never win big tournies and I get hit even when I hit ppl(ball is punishable on hit)

agree with 119... Hate Ryu and Sagat...they're equally overpowered..

Posted by the truth on September 24, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. #123

blanka isnt that strong already he has ok short normals and no way to land ultra. his balll attack can be beaten by well timed normals. once you learn his tricks his lame and easy to beat. get life lead on him and find out how easy he becomes to beat. if anything they need to buff his normals to compete against characters that have all the tools to keep him out

Posted by me on September 24, 2009 at 8:57 p.m. #124

respond to #125

I can't agree more. The only time you would see a very strong blanka player, is one that is in a low bracket. But once they reach the upper brackets blanka players get raped left and right.

Posted by Antonio on September 24, 2009 at 9:24 p.m. #125

I really hope they add a thong alternate costume for Vega, one that really rides up that tight butt of his, cuz i am soooooo gay for Vega!

Posted by JoontheBaboon on September 24, 2009 at 9:24 p.m. #126

Please don't upgrade high tier characters!

My Ken needs faster/recovery Hadoken, faster walking speed, or faster crouching fierce kick!

Posted by Deeznuts on September 24, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. #127

Yeah this is great and all...
But I can't just pull another 60 dollars out my ass for a whole new game.. Maybe 40 bucks, then I'm cool. Would be pretty sweet to have some small discount on people who already own the original. But I'm just sayin.. I'm sure you guys are rich.

Posted by WOWmidtierJERKS on September 24, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. #128

I am mad cuz some of the ppl here are asking for faster fireballs when they already have everything they need. Fix the ones that really need the boost.

Posted by This Sucks on September 24, 2009 at 9:31 p.m. #129

these so called improvements sound really really really bad

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 9:37 p.m. #130

@Deeznuts
From what i read here it seems like basically a whole new game.
Its like complaining that you should get a discount when you owed one of the Maddens or that you want the next God Of War free since you have the other 2 lol.

Posted by Machineking1313 on September 24, 2009 at 9:39 p.m. #131

I am not down with some of the changes, especially the news of parries and multiple ultras....sounds really stupid. The Japanese SFIV blog updates in about 3 hours as well.

Posted by zig_zag on September 24, 2009 at 9:45 p.m. #132

to be brutally honest, this sounds fake.

too much changes, it is not an upgrade at all it seems like a whole new game.

personally, this game doesn't seem like ST much anymore with all these changes. I want ST :(

plzplzpzlplz most of these things be fake

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 9:48 p.m. #133

@133
Parries? wtf u talking bout.

Posted by Dave on September 24, 2009 at 9:49 p.m. #134

Dont really believe all of what was mentioned will be in the game.

However, 2 ultras and 2 supers sounds good. Maybe Vega will get new versions that are somewhat decent.

I'm especially excited about Makoto.

And whoever said bison (dictator) was weak is a moron. He's upper-mid tier at the worst.

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 9:53 p.m. #135

Never played Makoto but i always liked her style can't wait to play her.

Posted by Th3 JoK3R J on September 24, 2009 at 10:03 p.m. #136

lol it's me again Dave and no there are no 2 supers
and i really hope they beast up Vega with some new goodies
xD even tho i been beasting up alot of Ryu/Kens all day today with him.
I really hope they put more interest into Vega.

Posted by Chaotic Micah on September 24, 2009 at 10:11 p.m. #137

I'm gonna make a logo out of this lol.

Posted by Romzen on September 24, 2009 at 10:23 p.m. #138

People don't see these things are all rumors. It is written in the first sentence and many of those details do not even sound in any way possible or trustful.

Posted by Dave on September 24, 2009 at 10:26 p.m. #139

@ Joker

Of course there are not 2 supers right now, im just saying that if they did add supers, he should get one that is at least usable in high level play.

Dan's is easier to land for crying out loud.

Sadly, Vega is really not very interesting right now because of his limited playstyle, based on his moveset.

No real options to be offensive or to apply pressure, besides pokes, which can easily be over-prioritized anyways.

Makoto's playstyle would be a great mix to sf4

Posted by Gouken beard stroke on September 24, 2009 at 10:32 p.m. #140

He's getting unblockable Denjin hadouken now?
That's Ryu's steez. SF3, spin the joystick charge it faster

Of course its all rumors and saying its Gouken's Denjin, when there was no Gouken in any game before.
-
Fix Vega's "Yo-da-lay-hee-hoo" after win voice acting quote.
Biggest nerf of all time. Worse than Sean nerf.

Zangief's English Voice actor = A+
Vega = F---
Fei Long, multilingual screaming as Hong Kong native Kung Fu Bruce Lee style "Wa-tahs!", perfect diction English? Grade Incomplete.

Juli/Juni and now Juri? Yeah, no. Not a "Japan moe game," fix that almost made it(almost looks like sean) black karate-ka. Give him a real name, some MMA stuff like Judo.
MMA in Japan forever, now big in US, why only Shotokan/Thai Kickboxing still in Street Fighter, and whatever mixed stuff Abel gets?

Posted by jin on September 24, 2009 at 10:43 p.m. #141

I dunno...I'm pretty excited to see how it turns out, but on the other hand the beauty of SFIV was its simplicity, I fear they might be overcomplicating things with all these additions. The character balance is good, but can be improved (Blanka and Dictator are "weak" characters? huh?). Still a day one purchase for me, though.

Posted by Eugene Krabz on September 24, 2009 at 10:52 p.m. #142

No Hugo, not interested.

Posted by habs on September 24, 2009 at 10:55 p.m. #143

I doubt this game will come out very soon, since TvC is being released in Jan 2010, they wouldnt release another fighter one month later and lose sales on their other game.

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 11:05 p.m. #144

But TvC is for wii i doubt that would affect ps3 and 360 sales.

Posted by MustHaveRolento on September 24, 2009 at 11:09 p.m. #145

OMG, if Rolento isn't in this Super SF 4, i plan to have this entire franchise boycotted!

VOTE FOR ROLENTO TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN NEW SSF4!!!!

MUST HAVE ROLENTO!

WHERE DA F!*#$ is MY ROLENTO?!

Posted by 0_o on September 24, 2009 at 11:14 p.m. #146

"The game takes place one year after Street Fighter 4."
"Dudley was searching for his car in Third Strike, in this game he's searching for a rose."

Put all resources into the game. Seriously, who gives a crap about the story. Please no more stupid cartoons that only (2% of the total consumers) nerds will jack off to.

Posted by jin on September 24, 2009 at 11:23 p.m. #147

TvC has already been out in Japanese arcades for a while, I don't think that will affect the arcade release of SSFIV.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 24, 2009 at 11:26 p.m. #148

I have another quiter this time I beat his ass with Ryu and on his land he got hit with my mestu-hadoken lol

HIs gamer tage on the PSN is Oscarcastellanos and he was Gouken he sucked lol
Tell him Cuttyb87 sent u lol

Posted by Mario on September 24, 2009 at 11:36 p.m. #149

It needs more HUGO!!!! Come Capcom, please bring HUGO into this game!!!!

Posted by Metal Health on September 24, 2009 at 11:54 p.m. #150

whoa... ADON... ADON... ADON... ADON!

Posted by IrPanda on September 24, 2009 at 11:56 p.m. #151

A gouken rage quiter! what an embarrass mean i hope he sucks and would never amount to anything

Posted by amorale30 on September 25, 2009 at 12:13 a.m. #152

Hyped on the fact that they r vaping the game up to SSFIV... BIG FAN!!! Any word on how Adons moves and super/ultras are going to be like?? To me he was a lil corny in Alpha noting like the KING of Muay Thai SAGAT. I'm wondering how the transaction from Alpha Adon to the style of SFIV moves and game play are going to be for SSFIV Adon... I fore see a much cooler sytle and good tier player if it is done right. Please make the jaggertooth move look alot better.LOL He's a pretty cool character given the fact that in Sagats story sceen he makes a cameo, gets dropped by the KING!!!!! LOL....

Posted by Hugo Fans on September 25, 2009 at 12:13 a.m. #153

Enjoy Yoshi Ono and his dev crew giving you no ways around fireballs if he ever gets in and now the fave SFIV vice by regular ol players "fireball spam" which you might repeat too and sound crazy with that group.

Or you know, write how you think he should get around them with a new move you thought of.

T.Hawk doesn't have much more but has at least something. 3 Punch Hawk Dives. But keep fighting for that Hugo and tell them he has more fans than T.Hawk.

Posted by icecream man on September 25, 2009 at 12:24 a.m. #154

Hugo's wack....sorry fans..But the RED CYCLONE ZAnGief and T.Hawk are the BIG MUSCLES of the SF world!!!!

Posted by Scorp & Oni TagTeam on September 25, 2009 at 12:33 a.m. #155

Almost all the Saturday Night SLAMMASTERS wrestlers were better designs than T.Hawk.

Kinda why he's only in 2 SF games, or series.
Super/Super Turbo/Alpha 3 that's it. And in Alpha 3 not very useful. DeeJay didn't make that transition well either, but got some new moves & another super & uh a boombox/new Jamaica stage more memorable than T.Hawk's Alpha 3 stage.

Posted by shinmaster on September 25, 2009 at 12:37 a.m. #156

tone down sagat and ill b happy

Posted by BS on September 25, 2009 at 12:37 a.m. #157

So, let me understand, is this going to be a whole new game or just a downloadable patch you can buy for 5$?

Posted by shinmaster on September 25, 2009 at 12:40 a.m. #158

this is going 2 b awesome adon rocks

Posted by @157 on September 25, 2009 at 12:41 a.m. #159

157:

You actually think any developer would ever give a game 10 new characters, 25 new ultra (not including the new characters ultras), and a couple game changing new features in a 5$ download?

Why are you retarded?

Posted by Madness on September 25, 2009 at 12:47 a.m. #160

-Cammy's divekick should be like everyone elses, along with an easier motion and you can perform it front and back. Give her a normal overhead and her anti-fireball moves should be a hell of alot faster on startup
-Rose needs an overhead and more combos, as well as making her reflect have more active frames so she can challenge sagat and ryu.Soul throw needs to be better obviously,different hitbox
-Guile basically needs to be alot more like the way he was in any other game.Up his health to 1050 and blankas to 1100
-Dan needs faster pokes and advantages other shotos have
-Gouken needs faster pokes probably
-Sagat needs to do less damage, and sagat and ryus ultra can also do less damage since they are so easy to connect,possibly rufus too,definitely if this change is true(why would it be?)
-Gen needs abit of a damage boost,not sure about the specifics
-Dhalsim needs to be able to attack out of his teleport right away instead of a weird motion
-Hondas handslap should be moving normally
-Feilong needs less startup on chickenwing and maybe more range on command throw
-Ken needs abit less recovery on fireball
-Vega needs to be more like previous versions, easier ultra to connect and more rewarding
-Blankas ball should NOT be punishable when it hits...wtf. Overhead needs to be faster
-Auto-correct either removed or given to characters sorely needing them. Easy motions either removed or given to characters needing them
-Links normalized

Posted by Hugo on September 25, 2009 at 12:48 a.m. #161

I agree. More Hugo please.

Posted by meh on September 25, 2009 at 12:54 a.m. #162

Everyons can stop saying ish like 'put Rolento in it!' and 'put Hugo in it!' and ish.

This news leaked in our city a few days ago. The characters that are listed are in it. Characters not listed are not in it.

What you see is what you get. Take it or leave it.

Posted by onose on September 25, 2009 at 12:55 a.m. #163

I was praying they would completely get rid of ultras but now they're supposedly adding more??

Posted by Jennero on September 25, 2009 at 12:56 a.m. #164

Sounds like this should have been SF4 when it first came out.

Posted by Unessential on September 25, 2009 at 12:57 a.m. #165

I've been surfing all day (when out of class) due to the rumors of an announcement at TGS.

Nice that I found this right before going to bed... Quick reminder of all the rumors I heard which is WHY I was surfing all day...

I've never followed TGS before, the only reason is the possiblity of SF4 dash

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 25, 2009 at 1:02 a.m. #166

@Irpanda he did suck and he did the meduim punch in the air and it is a juggle to his ultra but he missed it and I raped/owned him on my way to another g1 championship and a another video upload check it out... But the PSn network is a crappy and I don't whats wrong wit it now tho.

@ Metal health Adon is the man with his different play styles it will be awesome and hopefully he can fight Akuma as his Rival. And I hope he plays like Aplha with his moves and I hope he can either do the Jaguar assassin as his ulra

Akuma needs to have the Misogi attack and I want to see the raging demon have invulnerabilty like other chracters ultras

BTW with all this content is this goig to be a second disc or what?

Posted by bwahwaawa on September 25, 2009 at 1:03 a.m. #167

over 160 gullible pricks. It will soon go over 9000.

its fake..... been confirmed by capcom 2 day.

Posted by TC on September 25, 2009 at 1:06 a.m. #168

bring back Allen from EX Plus Alpha.

Posted by Truth on September 25, 2009 at 1:07 a.m. #169

#16 nailed it...all BS

Dear Eventhubs: I like your site, but I don't think turning Eventhubs into the rumor mill is a good idea. If fans want to discuss the rumors in forums and such, fine, but doing news items about them before they are confirmed lends credibility to stuff that shouldn't have it.

Posted by BS on September 25, 2009 at 1:08 a.m. #170

@195
mmh, be nice pls? In order to keep the community going it would make sense to release this new addon as a patch, and for a low price. Old SF4 players would still be able to fight against those who purchased tha addon, and they would buy it themselves eventually as it's not pointless like alt costumes.

The other possible scenario is this: they release a new game => casual players don't buy it as they're statisfied with SF4 => Player base is divided among 2 games => Super SF4 will struggle more to find a good-connection online match.

Of course I said $5 as in "low price" but in reality I'm willing to spend more than $10-12. The lower the better if you want to keep players interested in this product.

Posted by Tony on September 25, 2009 at 1:09 a.m. #171

I'm pretty sure they'll try to balance out the characters, its just not noteworthy to announce each change to each character. Im sure you would rather hear about new moves, characters, and gameplay changes than Sagat being toned down.

Posted by hmong on September 25, 2009 at 1:22 a.m. #172

this game sounds awesome! sf4 was already a great game. all these improvements will make it even better

Posted by IrPanda on September 25, 2009 at 1:25 a.m. #173

@160
What do mean like everyone elses , as far as it goes i think she has the best 1, the ex version can be used voer and over again in combos and it has good priority and the only other dive kick thats i can think of that hits you while crouching is goukens own coming from demon flip. Faster anti-fb move maybe be good but only for ex version.

Posted by the frog-splash lives on September 25, 2009 at 1:26 a.m. #174

why can't there be a grappler with average health who is as fast as fei long? anyway most of these changes seem unlikely but if it is true can dee jay please be as good as ryu seriously. sagat needs a major nerf and i hope guy is as good as his alpha 3 incarnation. also hope that chun li will be a bit more like her alpha 3 counterpart and her fireballs will be qcf while her other moves remain charge alpha 3 chun was my favourite. vega needs a buff as well as el fuerte those two are good but require ridiculous amounts of play time to get good with them unlike shotos and sagat.can't wait to try out dee jay and guy oh and possibly hakan ( who i'm sure doesn't exist). salt is being very firmly pinched though.

Posted by Not finished.. on September 25, 2009 at 1:37 a.m. #175

You guys keep in mind that they said it is under development, so assuming nothing is done to (Claw) Vega and such.

@Madness, Your Ken and Honda suggestions are bad ideas.
Ken is supposed to have slower hadouken recovery, but has a faster shoryuken (which is really the trade off between ken and ryu.) With Honda, there is no use of jab, strong, or fierce hand slap, and actually in some cases the jab or strong have different purposes.. like dashing forward trying to go for a command grab? or something. its different..

Posted by OneStep on September 25, 2009 at 1:56 a.m. #176

I just hope they don't break the game! we don't need another alpha 3! that game was a disaster! 2 ultras and 1 super? 10+ characters? a new game play/FA system? air ultras? gief has a 720 air ultra LOL! the last one was actually funny!... sounds too much to me!

Posted by gaoser on September 25, 2009 at 1:56 a.m. #177

@ 175

uh no use for fierce hand slaps? Honda's bread and butter is low jab --> fierce hands.

Posted by AntiRyu on September 25, 2009 at 1:58 a.m. #178

You need to buff Ryu so people like cuttyb87 on PSN dont have to ragequit when they are about to lose. cuttyb87 .. ragequitter FTL

Posted by Acku on September 25, 2009 at 2:02 a.m. #179

@the frog-splash lives
'why can't there be a grappler with average health who is as fast as fei long?'

Ever noticed Fuerte?

Posted by JWong on September 25, 2009 at 2:35 a.m. #180

Maybe I'll find an imbalanced char to beat Daigo this time !

Posted by Absurd on September 25, 2009 at 2:41 a.m. #181

@Madness
I disagree with all your points except maybe for the blanka ball.
But some points sound really stupid to me.

Posted by dante on September 25, 2009 at 3:06 a.m. #182

man this sounds very good. so in terms of story this will take place after 1 year so Capcom better give us a new anime movie better than the previous. Also it seems that with all this SF 4 will be the best and most complete fighting game ever. Cant wait! Long Live Shotokan!!!

Posted by baz on September 25, 2009 at 3:11 a.m. #183

@madness 160, you see I wrote a list like that, and everyone on the forum got pissed, I agree with some of it like the cammy and Gouken part. this is the bad part, a lot of people don't want their character to get weaker, but if you tried to make them all as powerfull as Sagat, The game would end up like "MUGEN" with all these overpowered freaks or worst(MvC2). It is a bit of a conandrum to figure out, I guess the most needed change is theres certain combos and kara cancelling moves that just need to get the axe, and then add moves and hope people don't notice, which is usually what happens from one SF to the next.

I'm excited, I really wanted Rolento and Haggar, but I really like Cody and T.Hawk so I'm satisfied.

Posted by lol on September 25, 2009 at 3:14 a.m. #184

@ #180

that was funny! JWong did go through a few characters just to beat daigo, he said in an interview that he really wanted to beat him badly! no wait.. thats not funny.. its actually sad..

Posted by Youknowigohoohoo on September 25, 2009 at 3:27 a.m. #185

Was hoping to hear something about fixing it so cheap-ass players can't focus their entire game strategy around jabbing and then immediately throwing...

Posted by the frog-splash lives on September 25, 2009 at 3:30 a.m. #186

@ acku #179 fuerte's health is just awful and his damage output even worse.by average health i mean ryu,ken,fei long etc levels.fei takes damage far too easily.

Posted by the frog-splash lives on September 25, 2009 at 3:33 a.m. #187

correction fuerte takes damage far too easily

Posted by oRo on September 25, 2009 at 3:47 a.m. #188

@ #185

why not just Counter-Throw those "cheap-ass players"? slow reaction? try improving on that first and you'll be better not only at countering throws, but at everything else!

Posted by bossman on September 25, 2009 at 4:37 a.m. #189

dead... ssf4 sounds like a new learning curve... sf4 has taking enough of my life as it is... bringing out ssf4 might destroy my family life completely... oh dear me! the wife is not gonna be feeling this sort of talk... people are saying new year feb... ? im thinking new year feb for arcades then probably summmer july/august for console???? im thinking this sounds about right na????

im hoping ryu is still top tier lol

Posted by jayy126 on September 25, 2009 at 4:51 a.m. #190

i think they should bring parrying back

Posted by RS Rules on September 25, 2009 at 5:02 a.m. #191

we need air parry! think about it, no more unbeatable, insane priority wake-up/reversal DPs/AA's.. they'll have to think before they just mash a wake-up DP.

Posted by Question on September 25, 2009 at 5:16 a.m. #192

*There's a new gameplay system called Tadan Saving, the phrase implies a multi-hitting or multiple-level Focus Attack.*

So, the pary system? Really Capcom? The Parry System?

Posted by jeff on September 25, 2009 at 5:32 a.m. #193

"The commands to execute your Ultras do not overlap."

Sure, but then they should remove that stupid dragon punch shortcut which does an EX SRK instead of a Metsu hadouken.

Hakan is not an Arabic name. It's Turkish.

Posted by jeff on September 25, 2009 at 5:35 a.m. #194

If all these goodies really make it into the game, I'll buy that Super Street Turtle IV for sure.

Posted by Jcool813 on September 25, 2009 at 5:37 a.m. #195

balrog's ultra juggle should do slightly more damage.

Posted by Youknowigohoohoo on September 25, 2009 at 5:46 a.m. #196

I'm against the jab/throw combo not just for cheapness reasons but for aesthetic reasons as well. It makes the game look retarded. But this is coming from a Claw-only user. You know there's something wrong with all of us...

Posted by Dave on September 25, 2009 at 5:56 a.m. #197

@ Jcool

I think we all agree that boxer doesnt really need many improvements, if any. Especially not the one you suggested

Posted by GGPO Fan on September 25, 2009 at 6:43 a.m. #198

No mention of GGPO. :(

Posted by Jessika Benton on September 25, 2009 at 6:52 a.m. #199

No Dictator news =(

Except something about a Psycho Punisher? (Totally an Air Psycho Crusher that is diagonal, smashing into the ground)

Posted by Thamanator on September 25, 2009 at 7:29 a.m. #200

Did someone just bring up tick-throwing? In SFIV? Really?
I hadn't noticed it was a problem. Teching seems to be easier than ever now.

Posted by roshi on September 25, 2009 at 7:55 a.m. #201

i think capcom should be looking to improve this game not by nerfing good characters to balance things, but by looking to improve every characters abilities. the one reason i love to play sf4 is because of how lovely a character boxer is! im not saying its a good game, but if they managed to get every character up to the standard of boxer and ryu then it might just be.
no good will ever come of nerfing! just a boring game!

Posted by @170 on September 25, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. #202

#170,

Every single year, a new iteration of a football, basketball, hockey (whatever) game comes out of EA Sports. Even though some years the changes are insignificant, it has never been issued through a downloadable patch. It's always a full retail release, and people always buy it.

SSF4 will be a full retail release. 10 new characters/TONS of new features is an unreasonable amount of stuff to put in a patch -- especially one you'd like to pay 12-15$ dollars for. Consider this a whole new game rather than a Halo-esque "map pack".

Posted by Firegod on September 25, 2009 at 9:10 a.m. #203

I would like to belive this list but i doubt it. I just want the game balanced.

Posted by bossman on September 25, 2009 at 9:45 a.m. #204

sf4 is pretty well balanced...
top tier
sagat
ryu
balrog
bison
rufus
viper
akuma
gief
sims?

mid tier
honda
blanks
chun
ken
guile
abel
gen?
gouken
cammy
sakura

low tier
vega
fei
el
dan

this is in no particular order

i think thats pretty well balanced... you got a lot of chars in each tier... if people are saying there should be NO tiers and everyone should be equal... then you must have not played alot of sf... there are always tier groups in sf and in fighting games in general... its only a F up if there is one char that is superior to everyone else... therefore that char is usually banned from touneys... as far as ive heard no char has been banned??? therefore the game is pretty well balanced na... ? i think people that moan about balancing all chars... are mad upset that their main char is not so good... my idea would be to change your main char

Posted by bossman on September 25, 2009 at 9:52 a.m. #205

the only thing i want this christmas is to have lagless online play... but ive been told this is more or less impossible... boo hoo!
so the only other major thing would be to have more chars...
im hearing 10 so im hoping 4 top tier 4 mid tier and 2 low tier... fingers cross there aint no char that gets banned
keep it like this and the game will be safe and liked by good sf4 gamers... oh and all the little bits outfits, stages, bonus stages, rival matches etc... but thats the small details

Posted by M.rio on September 25, 2009 at 10:01 a.m. #206

I can't stop staring at this page for no apparent reason. Creepy.

Posted by kona on September 25, 2009 at 10:23 a.m. #207

God, I'd love to see Makoto's SA2 in Ultra form. So gdlk.

Posted by DDX0 on September 25, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #208

Where is my SSS-Tier Cyber Sagat!?

Posted by Madness on September 25, 2009 at 10:43 a.m. #209

baz183

None of those changes make anyone overpowered, just about all of that is getting weaker characters up to speed. And sagat does too much damage....seriously.

Posted by sfa3 rulz on September 25, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. #210

@176

Why is SFA3 a disaster? That game is certainly better than SF4.

Posted by nemo on September 25, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. #211

@ #207

i don't think it'll work as an ultra. not if they will be using the current ultra properties. first in 3s, the best way to use SA2 is to cancel a standing FP into it, which can't be done as ultras cannot be canceled/linked/comboed for the most part... and then in 3s, you could juggle after the super, again not possible in the current ultra system...

im starting to think this list is fake.. too many improvements, additions and characters to be true! and if it is true, then it'll either be an imbalanced mess.. or capcom actually did an almost impossible job and the game will be the best fighter ever!

Posted by bloodriotiori on September 25, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. #212

overall i think most of this looks great. Capcom needs to spend it's time fixing the netcode first and foremost. Secondly it needs to invest money in a company OTHER then madcatz to make new controllers (i seriously can't even enjoy playing online anymore between the netcode and the crappads).

Nerf down a bit some of the overpowered characters, balance out some of the weaker ones. There's nothing wrong with Sagat being better then other chars, but there is something wrong with a complete idiot noob being able to win with him solely based on the fact his moves do uber damage and his priority is broken. Things of that nature need to be addressed, however totally raping a character to the point of him sucking does not.

And i agree, screw the stupid story. We all know the story, and love the story, but they need to put 100% of their money and effort into fixing the netcodes, getting a non crappy partner to make controllers, and balancing out and fine tuning the fighting aspect of this game 110%.

Posted by aswe on September 25, 2009 at 11:13 a.m. #213

@#204

your list is way too over simplified! here is a more realistic top tier list one!

GOD TIER

sagat
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
A+++

ryu
rufus
gief
.
.
.
.
.
A++
balrog
.
A+
bison
.
.
A
viper
akuma

the same goes for the rest.

Posted by Eugene Krabz on September 25, 2009 at 11:15 a.m. #214

This game needs to show the ultimate wrestler match-up:
Zangief vs Hugo
Everything else is extra

Posted by zomg on September 25, 2009 at 11:21 a.m. #215

plz make vega not suck. that is all i ask.

Posted by i agree with aswe on September 25, 2009 at 11:27 a.m. #216

And Fei Long isn't low tier, i have no idea who thinks that. Fei can be very badass if you know how to use his FA & CW well. can obliterate shotos if you know his tools well enough.

that said:

There's no reason to think these 'leaked' rumors are set in stone and final edition.
There was a leak that mentioned that if enough noise was made to have Rolento, they would add him. He's definitely a necessity to SSF4. Can't imagine adding Ibuki, Guy, Cody and not rolento...he better be a hidden character or something then...and what about Charlie/Shadow? I still feel he's a kool version of Guile with a few more tricks.

I think Rolento deserves to be in this game, and i think this next installment of SF4 needs to have better balance. No character should have GODTIER-like dmg like Sagat does, and if their connection to Ultra is so simple, dmg should be actually less. See they got it wrong in this game: Guile has it tough just to pull out his ultra, it doesn't link easily at all, unless you link it to Super...his dmg should be alot higher than Rufus/Sagat's ultra that easily links from nearly anything.

Posted by KenNeedsBuff on September 25, 2009 at 11:30 a.m. #217

All Ken really needs to be closer to balanced is allowing his full ultra to connect to a MP-SRK > FADC> Ultra instead of working only on F.SRK (that MUST be a counter hit).

Ken NEEDS the following too: His hurricane kick, EX MUST have knockdown added to it. The fact that it leaves him at 50/50 makes his game too risky and limits his strengths. At least make EX-Tatsu a knockdown if anything.

That's all.

Posted by Charlie on September 25, 2009 at 11:32 a.m. #218

I want charlie in super street fighter 4... cmon he should be baseline like ryu

Posted by italirish57 on September 25, 2009 at 11:34 a.m. #219

What is with people suggesting if their current character is "not so good" - to just switch characters? Why should we just switch characters we like playing instead of a concious effort on Capcom's part to maintain balance by therefore making ALL characters equally worth using? I have played many a fighting game and I just so happen to main low tier characters the majority of the time and it is extremely annoying that I (and others I'm sure) have to struggle that much more because of a lack of balance against someone using a high/god tier char. A companies main objective in a fighting game SHOULD be balance.
Ever play a Mag's, Sent, and Cable/IM combo in MVC2? As broken as my wiener after "stabbing" Megan Fox nonstop for 48 hours. ;p

Posted by chickenwings on September 25, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. #220

@italirish57

because admitting that there main character is broken or easy mode is too hard for them.

Posted by Lane on September 25, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. #221

If you can't keept a stiff one for longer than 48, then you are freaking joke, Italirish.

Posted by MAKOTO on September 25, 2009 at 12:17 p.m. #222

OMG! MAKOTO!

Posted by JerseyFame on September 25, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. #223

If you think that Sonic Hurricane only makes Guile better I disagree.

A useful sonic hurricane will make Guile better.

Honestly Guile is a great character that pushes his user to use technique and skill while constantly anticipating the movements of the particular opponent. If you dont know the matchups youre screwed. Guile has to be played a specific way versus each different character.

So giving him an extra move wont change that...improving his attributes is what will make Guile better.

He has low stamina and a meager health bar. He also does not have damaging moves. You have to have excellent execution and a knowledge of his combos to take chunks of damage at once.

In comparison Rufus EX Snake strike will take as much life as Guiles ultra move alone.

I just hope that his sonic hurricane has an immediate startup, unlike flash explosion and does actual damage.

If Guile is denied various juggles and ways of hit confirming into his Ultra, like Ryu has, at least make Guile strong and repair his flash kick.

If he had those improvements even this version fo Guile would jump up in the Tiers. Turtle Guile has been phased out so let us use him as an offensive weapon.

Posted by jalapNo on September 25, 2009 at 1:05 p.m. #224

Quit being angry, just wait and see.

I personally was hoping Twelve and Urien would be in the game, but I am not holding my breath, neither should you.

I was also hoping Seth would carry over into the Arcade version, but I am not holding my breath.

I was hoping Seth would get 1100 vitality/1050 stun, but I am not holding my breath.

Get used to it guys, take everything anyone says that isn't in a Capcom official press release with a grain of salt.

Posted by LOL on September 25, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. #225

This is hilarious, There is no way that this can be true just for the sheer fact that this could make the game so imbalanced. Sonic Hurricane? That would be ridiculous in SF4.

Posted by spongebob squarepants on September 25, 2009 at 1:10 p.m. #226

i just want spongebob in super sf4 and have u seen the new te stick guys?????????????????

Posted by Lamar on September 25, 2009 at 2:03 p.m. #227

This better be nothing like the original Street Fighter 4 if it's true. I don't want ANOTHER disappointment. The music was below generic, the story almost gave me a seizure, the game stole alot of crap and had no innovation, even the FOCUS ATTACK was practically stolen from another game. All around, the game was just the most generic thing to be build in fighting game history. It was probably the BIGGEST disappointment I've ever played. Most of the people that play the game and enjoy it alot are newbs and scrubs that don't even know much about the world of Fighting games. Hell, I bet they didn't even know what DAMAGE scaling was or that it even existed. I don't care what anyone says, Street Fighter 4 is a disgrace and a shame to fighting games. Super Street Fighter 4 better be good, the only reason everyone likes everything about SF4 is cause they're fanboys. Hell, they probably like the storyline too. I hear "Oh, the music is so great", as a musician, I can determine that the music is GENERIC, and that's objective. It's not the worst thing I've ever heard, that would go to Kate Perry, but it's still below decent. If they screw this one up, I swear to God that I wish Yoshinori Ono burns in Hell.

Posted by Guile is a joke on September 25, 2009 at 2:09 p.m. #228

Guile= Turtle

turtle players=NO SKILLS AT ALL

just telling you the truth

Posted by PSN ID - YoungSifu on September 25, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. #229

They should add a lot more stages & put hard work into the 3D backgrounds.

i.e. picturesque backdrops, stars in the night sky in a remote setting, a beach fight at dusk or sunrise with the sun appearing over the horizon as the fight is progressing. Japanese gardens, great architecture, a hotel lobby or corridor, high cliffs, under a giant waterfall, beautiful senery, outside Goukens Dojo or maybe Chunli's/Cammy's HQ, forest or woodland setting, similar to Ryu n Sagats opening fight in the original anime with the dark sky, lightning, long blades of grass etc, really visual, imaginative, and enjoyable 3D landscapes possibly with slightly interactive backgrounds for certain characters to launch off when they're doin air attacks or double jumps off the sides of the stage like Chun li, Vega, Gen etc, (similar to how how Chunli launches off the Chinese tiger/dragon in the opening FMV fight with Viper)
All stages should all have HELLA CRAZY DETAIL AND DEPTH!!

They should also fix the network lobby system & make it 1000 times more EFFICIENT & less time consuming to find 1 DAMN Game with a DECENT CONNECTION! A key config change in the lobby would also be NICE.

More alternative costumes, like Ken in a Tuxedo.

Dont forget Adon, he was REALLY USEFUL. Fei long needs more range and less startup on Tenshin and maybe some added edge in some way because he's loved but lets be real, how could he ever beat a Serious SAGAT!! hes suppossed to be reppin Bruce Lee at the end of the day, he Needs to be made greater!

Maybe Ryu Should be given the ability to level up to Evil status upon accruing AHELL OFF A LOT of points or completing an array of tasks to show you've mastered him on all levels as a side mission like World Tour on Alpha3? Even a world tour mode would be great to level up players individually so that you can customise which different attributes you want each character to have (which ultras/supers etc), so each player can have a character with a unique skillset, thus adding a lot more depth,personal variety and diversity to the game!

A tourny mode with a spectator option like HD RMX would also be kool or a last man standing mode where 2 groups of 3 or more face off in a lobby of 4 groups or something, & have one character step right in only after the proceeding fighter is defeated (none of this jumpin in when u want stuff) & have a last man standing.

You should have the option to record any game you want whether on or offline.

If they do what ive stated along with all we have already read, as well as a few hiden extras we'll all be good for another decade! AND ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER BEAT EM UP WOULD BE ABLE TO COMPARE!

Oh yeah 3rd strike & full Alpha3 with World Tour NEEDS to be on PSN!

My PSN ID's Youngsifu - add me if you wana spar & feedback from this wud be gr8 cuz im sure im NOT the only 1 who feels this way.I hope the RIGHT people are reading this!

Posted by Geese on September 25, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. #230

I want Terry Bogard along with Alex, Elena, Yang, Urien, Q, Karin, Rainbow Mika, Cracker Jack, and Skullomania then SFIV would be the the perfect SF game at least in terms of roster. Maybe throw Hugo and Sean in there too.

Posted by monkeydhugo on September 25, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. #231

yo man read ur post...and I agree with you in most parts but this
YoungSifu: "Even a world tour mode would be great to level up players individually so that you can customise which different attributes you want each character to have (which ultras/supers etc), so each player can have a character with a unique skillset, thus adding a lot more depth,personal variety and diversity to the game!"

its not that i think that its stupid or anything..that would be amazing...But that would never happen.
but yeah hope you don't take my comment the wrong way bro....everything else you wrote would be awesome (especially the recording any fight whether online or offline)

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 25, 2009 at 2:48 p.m. #232

This game has alot of turtling and stf 3 didn't I noticed noobs turtle up alot and stuff but stf4 is a offense game and on the update I hope they can do something to the defense part of the game the focus doen't do it for me honestly

Posted by bossman on September 25, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. #233

i do feel sorry for all you guile users... he did get shttd on in sf4... he is a very propular char... i must agree and say capcom slighly flopped with him... my guess is they'l bring charlie in and make him top tier... would you guild heads be content with that?

but do remember guile is not the only char they shtted on ken got dumbed down too he is standard mid tier... personaly i think capcom jap didnt want to make the usa chars too good??? ken, guile, were strong chars but not in sf4

then they made boxer real good... maybe to balance it out a bit and he's black... ticking two boxes with 1 char??? just an opinion tho

oh and to the guy that said kens ex hurri should knock down... ken is very aggressive and has strong mix up game... and strong hitting combos it is sort of 50/50 but thats kens style... very aggresive! bit of a down fall but thats ken... mid tier! after the ex hurri you can throw... or slip in a cr.lk into a meaty combo ending with another ex hurri... then mixing it up dash back, sit and wait??? few options... most ken players like it that it doesnt knockdown... i dont thats why i play ryu lol

another theory
reason why ryu and sagat are real strong... they are slighly the main chars sf4 is a rebirth so ryu being the main sf char... and sagat being the 1st boss and his rival... ???? your thoughts????

to the other guy that broke down my tier list to god tier a+ etc... i wouldnt say sagat is god tier yes he is very strong but the top jap players can beat mago's sagat quite casually and vice versa... i brake my top tier list in a solid group because i;ve seen jap players beat each other with these chars back and forth... top tier chars all stand a good chance against each other if there all on the same level of play

and people pls think about what your saying... you want all the chars to be blanced the same... ? this is what im picking up??? that dont make sense???? sf games have always had unblanced chars... its only a flop when say sagat is overpowerd and cannot be beaten even if the same level of play is played with another char such as ryu... that is not the case with sf4 iyo (sims) beat mago (sagat) in the jap finals... top tier chars are for torneys really and the others and for more casual play... remember not everyone plays tournys so having group tiers make the game more open to play... i love playing my friends when there using their main and i use a low tier char... it sort of pans out the match and play to be fair... im better but i have to work harder due to my char this makes the game good na???

to the guy saying fei is not low tier... my bad he is mid tier its just i havent seen him progress to far in console tournys but yeh as far as i know he is a pretty strong char

wow i wrote alot... i bet no one read this lol execpt for me!

Posted by monkeydhugo on September 25, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. #234

@bossman
I read it all......good read

Posted by Douchebag on September 25, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. #235

Here is a suggestion about Guile. They should give him another special move or two. Seriously, the novelty of his scant movelist has worn out over the years. Guile needs to stop living in Charlie's shadow, grab his nuts, and evolve.

Posted by Haha cool on September 25, 2009 at 3:52 p.m. #236

So new Rivalries I'm guessing?

Juri and C.Viper

Dudley Balrog?
some pretty cool developments..

Posted by Some Guy on September 25, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. #237

You'd think this thread would have stopped seeing posts after the news.

Posted by Tom on September 25, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #238

What Capcom needs to do is improve of all the speed characters. They all take damage like a bitch and can't do much againt top tiers. If they're gonna be fast, they need to be able to at least do meatier combos. Fei Long is one character that would benefit from this. He needs some more moves, maybe even a counter like his foot grab so people can combo manually after countering instead of it just be an auto counter-hit.

Posted by lareka on September 25, 2009 at 4:21 p.m. #239

Yeah Hakan is not an arabic name, it`s a Turkish name. My brother`s name :-p

Posted by Destiny on September 25, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. #240

Please add Evil Ryu and Evil Sakura

Posted by Sain on September 25, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. #241

THIS IS FAKE SH!T U FUKIN FOOLS!

Posted by SF4TURBO on September 25, 2009 at 5:35 p.m. #242

Why include some dude from Turkey? That dont even have electricity there!

Posted by J on September 25, 2009 at 5:41 p.m. #243

This is SO not going to happen. If you really believe this has even the slightest chance of being legit, you are delusional and you deserve to be disappointed.

Posted by Yoga boogie on September 25, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. #244

"Dhalsim's new Ultra is called the Yoga Shangri'la."

Sure it is. Like someone watched that old movie "The Cooler" and thought they'd make up this rumor with that casino name.

Posted by TM on September 25, 2009 at 6:05 p.m. #245

Hot off the press! New character confirmation.

DarkSydePhil aka THE_KING_OF_HATE is currently being motion-captured for the hotly anticipated sequel to SFIV.

The selectable character "Fat_Fook" is rumored to be the long lost sibling of Rufus.

Stay tuned for more info.

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 6:08 p.m. #246

The SF4 game's engine/system, character moves, hitboxes, and damage ratios of supers/ultras, needs fixing badly.

Tweaking the characters for the better, is Cacpom's main concern though.

Fei Long would badly need his ST cross-up arcing 'chickenwing' back and not his SF4 stiff upwards moving version. Sagat and Balrog 'nerfed' in their levels somewhat, enough to balance them out rather than overpower them in comparison to everbody else. Then we'll see if any average joe person wants to really 'main' them or not. And if they'll be tournament favorites anymore?

And like Lamar says, the music could be given a huge spruce up. There are plenty of specialised collection edition tracks or tribute tracks based on the Street Fighter series, that SF4 Dash could easily use as BGM tracks in the title rather than the original SF4's bland BGM tracks that don't stand out as much.

Far as the rumors go? Some of it probably true while others aren't. How can it say they'll be only one super and two ultras for characters. For example; Guile's got his Sonic Hurricane? So if characters still only have one super option open, does that mean they ditched his 'Super-Flashkick' for the Sonic Hurricane instead then? I hope not! No sign of Charlie, but Cody's said to be in Dash? (*shakes head*). All the rest i don't mind, but Cody has no business being in there, if more Final Fight characters are turning up in SF4, why no Hugo or Rolento then?! When SF fans keep on asking for them to show up for SF4:Dash!

The new wrestler character sounds like Capcom want to create a SF:EX - Darun type? Why don't they just go out and purchase the Street Fighter EX copyrights from Akira. Then you'd finally get a "El Fuerte Vs Skullomania" matchup for the series to take place in SF4 Dash. Fighting game players love those kinda matchups between those kind of characters. We'd then also get to see, the real Darun go up against Zangief, Abel, T-Hawk etc. We'd also have more Shoto's like Allen Steiner and Kairi. And who's gonna forget that badass in a hat; Crackerjack! Or D.Dark!

Alas more Capcom lazyness!

No mention of Sean, Alex or Oro from SF3 putting in an appearence. Those fan matchups aren't going to be answered anytime soon until SSF4:Hyper Fighting at this rate!

No Sean Vs Dan matchup neither. (Sad face)

Far as the rest of the news goes. Yup, take it with a grain of salt.

[Juri - Evil Asian girl fighter working for Seth.]

Although i hope this one true! Hope she dresses in black suit (similar to M.Bison's dolls) showing off her body, and that she's sexier than both Cammy and Chun Li, lol. And uses a unique fighting style from the other SF4 characters.

J-King

Posted by @246 on September 25, 2009 at 6:11 p.m. #247

Conveniently left Ryu out of you nerfs eh?

I think Ryu needs more attention than Balrog.

Posted by Madness on September 25, 2009 at 6:37 p.m. #248

Yea...ryu has some stupid advantages such as being able to knock you out of your own combo into his ultra, the auto-correct BS,his normal jumpins out-prioritizing supers etc....

Balrog isn't better than ryu so why would you move past ryu to get balrog nerfed? He can't just mash and knock people out of their combos, he doesnt have that auto-target BS, he has a low jump arc but it's not mysteriously overpowering like ryus is. Why is he needing to get nerfed again? Balrogs ultra doesn't even really do much damage when it connects.

Compared to "everyone else" hey? Yea buddy probably plays ryu.

Posted by Lolento on September 25, 2009 at 7:14 p.m. #249

> No Sean Vs Dan matchup neither. (Sad face)

Oh, come on. There's enough joke characters and more than enough shotos in SFIV already. I mean, even if Sean recovered from the crapfest they made to him in the SF3 sequels, I certainly don't want yet another shoto wannabe taking room from an original character.

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 7:36 p.m. #250

[@246: Conveniently left Ryu out of you nerfs eh?

I think Ryu needs more attention than Balrog.]

I have no idea if you even play the SF4 game properly or not @246. or that you or Mr Madness have ever truly played the arcade version enough. But far as tiers go, Balrog is easily up there with Sagat and Zangief in damaging combos and cheesyness factors etc.

Now, you may lose to plenty of Ryu's in the arcades, and yes he has the strongest Ultra combo (only character with *level 10* Ultra) by far. But far as the tiers chart goes for the offical SF4 tiers list and their ranking of levels and whatnot etc, Balrog's is quite high next to Sagat, Gief and Ryu's etc. The delay on Ryu's Ultra leaves him quite vulnerable to being countered by another ultra without a delayed startup, or a well timed EX-move that has frames of invincibility to allow a counterattack on the Ryu player executing their ultra combo etc.

So no, i know my SF4 matchups and Ryu although quite overpowered isn't as nearly as damaging as Sagat or Balrog, not by far in truly high level play matchups! Balrog can tag a 'Buffalo Headbutt', to most of his small jab/EX combos and get an opponent ready and setup for his "Violent Buffalo Ultra" combo which has major priorities over fireballers like Ryu etc and the delay isn't nearly as troublesome for Balrog as it is for Ryu on the other hand.

So no, like i said before elsewhere's on Eventhubs, most cheesy people will go for Sagat and Balrog etc. Ryu and Zangief players's coming in behind them. I know the matchups, and Balrog would need to be nerfed moreso than Ryu. You guys try telling Capcom of Japan to 'nerf' Ryu down, and see if they listen to you, lol!

North America has way too many Balrog players to boot! Why is that? Ask yourself. Balrog was quite the top-tier in ST, but wasn't so easy to use. SF4's out, but has a blatantly broken system etc. And the U.S. and Canada have tons of Balrog players all of a sudden? Is that because the character truly popular, or just easy to use and has damaging combos to get cheesy wins! Nuff said! And please me use Ryu? Only in ST pal. And Balrog was also quite a handful in that game, and i wouldn't ask for him to be nerfed in ST. Maybe he already is in HDR, but i don't even talk about that game, lol. Don't know what game you two are playing, but everyone already knows Balrog is far more heavily used in SF4 than any other SF game he's been in. Ryu does need to be nerfed, but Balrog moreso.

J-King

Posted by purphaze on September 25, 2009 at 7:57 p.m. #251

@ j-king dude ur crazzy for thinking balrog needs to be nerfed b4 ryu lol ryu lp shory TRADE into ultra... nuff said

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 8:08 p.m. #252

[lolento:Oh, come on. There's enough joke characters and more than enough shotos in SFIV already. I mean, even if Sean recovered from the crapfest they made to him in the SF3 sequels, I certainly don't want yet another shoto wannabe taking room from an original character]

Stop whining, and what original character exactly are you on about. That terms so cliched already? Geez!

When an original character in any fighting game's out you'll know it etc. But i don't have to ask to see one. SF3 came out in 1997 and had plenty of original characters, didn't make the game better than the SF2 that fans bemoaned didn't put out a SF3 soon afterwards (1991) and made them all wait so long for SF3, which didn't really set the arcade on fire or alight, as the SF2 series did?.

Sean's better than Dan, but both are appreaciated by SF fans anyhow. If you want to play a great Sean, play 2nd Impact where he's top-tier! Whether they be; Shoto's Grab characters, Wing Chun stylists or Ninjas, theres plenty of room in a SF title for several of the same kind of characters with similar styles, with minor differences making them interesting and unique overall.

We're getting Makoto in Dash which pleases me to no end. and yet people on here, bitch too much about the most inane things, 'two boxers (Dudley/Balrog), no and the game will be *pants* etc?' Or too many grab characters in SF? What; Gief, Fuerte, Abel, T-Hawk and the new SF4 Dash character, says who exactly, that hardly half a dozen in a game thats going to have a lot more than the existing 25 or so plus in SF4. Play the KOF series and whine bout too many grab characters. Without shotos it probably wouldn't be a SF game worth playing in anyway, shape or form etc. And for the record Sean's style is kinda unique, yet when played at high level, he can easily *buss up* on Ryu and Ken types, but in his own way! Rather than the ultra cheesy Fireball-Dragon Punch fest Ryu and Ken have cliched and mained so much over the years.

Shoto's with different techniques and playstyles, would lead to interesting matchups in SF4 Dash, so quit all the 'Shoto hating' already!

J-King

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. #253

[@ j-king dude ur crazzy for thinking balrog needs to be nerfed b4 ryu lol ryu lp shory TRADE into ultra... nuff said]

Like him so much, then play him in ST. Where he's equally as powerful somewhat. But, not so easy to use. Thats the whole point. Why have such a damaging character that so easy to use and he's top-tier by a lot of players who hardly put much or an effort in casual play etc?

So you whine about Ryu needed to be 'nerfed/weakened', yet Ryu's not as used as much as Balrog is by North American players? Who over obsess on using that character cos of his damaging style of play, and ease of getting many wins.

O.K. if you say so. Laters.

(*Goes off to local arcade where everyone's mostly maining, Balrog, lol*)

J-King

Posted by :P on September 25, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #254

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/13...

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 8:34 p.m. #255

Lol.

That imageshack is too much.

Should be saying ST though not 3S!

J-King

Posted by CFab on September 25, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. #256

Can there be parrying now?

Posted by purphaze on September 25, 2009 at 9:41 p.m. #257

im not whinning about anything ur the one tht made 3 long ass posts whinning about rog.. im just simply sayng ryu has more abuseable traits then rog....

Posted by sffourfanboy on September 25, 2009 at 9:42 p.m. #258

Sagat makes everyone get an ego.

Posted by Madness on September 25, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. #259

"The delay on Ryu's Ultra leaves him quite vulnerable to being countered by another ultra without a delayed startup"

Maybe if you suck and you're one of the 10 people in the world who can't combo it. Like i said before, balrogs ultra gets an f as far as damage is concerned, but an A as far as landing it. What tier lists are you reading?

You can't even tell me why balrog needs a nerf so badly, or what needs to be nerfed, you just say "hes popular" like ryu and sagat aren't? J-king must be short for joking.

Never seen balrog mash and knock someone out of a combo,probably because he can't. The only place balrog is overpowered is against blanka.

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 10:17 p.m. #260

Long but to the point posts purphaze, unlike your disrespctful comments (with alot of lacking 'grammer' and i might add) about how i'm crazy cos i'm telling it as it is etc. You don't even know me and your going on as if your automatically right, no dear sir, you have whats called 'an opinion'. That doesn't put you in the "i'm always right" book, however though. And i put points down and argued them, thats not whining. Your attitude on the other hand would be classed as whining ALOT!

And what exactly have you learned about Ryu that you haven't from previous SF's then? Traits my ass, i like the character, always have, but lets not act like there's vast room of new stuff people haven't done with him before. Balrog's at least luring new players cos of his cheapness and easyness of use factor, but come bet most wouldn't have used that kind of charge character until SF4 though.

Go on name Ryu's traits in SF4 thats so original? (for real? besides Super/Ultra juggling?) And if not, then don't bother boring me with any more defensive nonsense from your lousy perspective. Least with Balrog, people are learning the rush-in combos, links and chain-strings/EX moves etc, with that melee character, that they haven't done so before though in SF. And his name is Balrog, or (Boxer) for short (Cos of the name change from 'M.Bison' in Japan). Whats all this 'rog' business?

Want to sound cool or anything, then at least get it right. "Boxer", 'got it'!

J-King

Posted by purphaze on September 25, 2009 at 10:35 p.m. #261

i love this site and i dont ussauly troll but j-king is a freaking moron

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 10:44 p.m. #262

[Madness:Maybe if you suck and you're one of the 10 people in the world who can't combo it. Like i said before, balrogs ultra gets an f as far as damage is concerned, but an A as far as landing it. What tier lists are you reading?

You can't even tell me why balrog needs a nerf so badly, or what needs to be nerfed, you just say "hes popular" like ryu and sagat aren't? J-king must be short for joking.

Never seen balrog mash and knock someone out of a combo,probably because he can't. The only place balrog is overpowered is against blanka.]

And i guess madness is short for; no manners i.e. your mad in that sense then? Or did you escape from the Looney bin? hence the; Mr Madness title! Seeking arguements with people you don't know, even when you could be posting about something else, *sigh* how sad.

Why should i tell you about balrog being nerfed? your not listening to me now. Its so obvious you don't play the game at all, if you think he doesn't. And can't even tell i was talking about Ryu Ultra being used on the ground where its most vulnerable, not about it being a 'juggle' where its mostly guaranteed 90% of the time. And Madness, ALL Ultras have a delay on the ground, Ryu's is chained together as are most ultras, but its not something that combos, supers combo, ultras are chained together in a string that form a larger combo, duh!

Yeah something sucks alright, you and your attitude! Maybe your gameplaying too sucks too, since you don't know or read whats being said on a webpage of all things, or know what actual combos are from chain-links and string combos etc, lol.

Go lie down son and rest your little head, o.k.! Geeez, kids.

[madness:The only place balrog is overpowered is against blanka.]

LOL (o.k. enough jokes) if you say so. And when will those wetdreams of yours stop, any time soon would be good, and you'll sit down to play SF4 for real huh? anytime might be good Madness. Then you'll actually know what your blabbering on about.

[you just say "hes popular" like ryu and sagat aren't?]

Man, this is your arguement? What are you 5 or 10 years old now! This is pathetically bad, even for you madness, guess the title suits you though. Won't even shame myself by answering that one, its so crap, i actually wonder if your serious at all.

'Move on, nothing to see here, except madness from Mr madness'.

J-King

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 10:59 p.m. #263

Yeah purphaze, cos i'm smarter than you and put my arguements into perspective rather than lamblast random folks on here like you do, i'm the moron.

Wow, so according to you, anyone you don't agree with is a moron. Wow ('sarcasm'), how logical. Or is that just how you like to think when your online. Least i don't go round seeking arguements out of the blue with strangers i meet online like you do, since you've admitted to being a troll now. A disrespectful troll, bet you couldn't pass grade school with your level of spelling mistakes no doubt.

Or maybe your pissed cos i put you in your place and corrected you too many times tonight! Simply cos of a difference of opinion.

Awwww!

Well laters, dickhead! Come on even you know, you are one right! Thanks for coming out though, you being a troll now clears it for eveybody else to know who you really are.

Cheers.

J-King

Posted by IrPanda on September 25, 2009 at 11:14 p.m. #264

@joking
I didn't know that how easy a charter is to use affected them in the tier list :S. I guess Viper should be last and dan should be a whole league above her because dan is alto easier to learnt than her

Posted by IrPanda on September 25, 2009 at 11:19 p.m. #265

I just got it, its Friday night J-King is drunk lol.

Posted by J-King on September 25, 2009 at 11:31 p.m. #266

Why are you starting on me IrPanda?

Two idiots start some beef with me for no reason (go back and look at their responces), i'm i not entitled to defend myself or something. Oh wait i got it, it is indeed Friday night (well Saturday morning in my part of the world anyways, internet and all *wink*), and IrPanda just got out of the jail after his drunken night out, with two whores.

Tsk!

Well if i must go there i will!

J-King

Posted by IrPanda on September 25, 2009 at 11:57 p.m. #267

If only there were 2 whores damn...but any ways i don't mean to be on you i just think its kinda dumb to say balrog is high tier the ryu when he obviously isn't , did u even check the tier on this site? No mean to offend lol i was just kidding around.

Posted by Burger King on September 26, 2009 at 12:01 a.m. #268

J-King fumbles, Burger King Randy Moss returns it all the way to the house.
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Mike "Balrog" Bison's jabs and frame advantages are ridiculous, beyond his Super Turbo form. But I never read that in this guy's massive complaints. I did read how Balrog can't be shortened to rog or you are not cool, cool like large posts soo defensive using the just my opinion 'cept you can't have a diff one or call him "rog" shorthand! Coolest guy on the internet except in keeping his cool.

Also read Balrog players seem to know about offense in the game? Or learn it with the character? So he still needs to be toned down, but now how exactly. You know moves or something changed.

JWong Balrog v Daigo Ryu and Balrog made worse, would have been unwatchable, probably what he wants. His Ryu's to win more and Balrog to not touch him. Claiming knowing everyone N.American uses Balrog and saying its bad as such, adding to the crazy.

Posted by Gaf on September 26, 2009 at 12:46 a.m. #269

I got a list of the real changes right here:

Fei Long - Chicken Wing nerfed.

Zangief - Improve damage on Lariat, and reduce recovery.

Sagat - Gets a second ultra. Tiger shots fill the screen for the remainder of the round or until you die of chip damage.

Honda - Headbutts don't even come out against fireball characters.

Rufus - Can link ultra after cr. jabs.

Seth: New ultra that summons Silver Surfer's surfboard.

SF3 characters that make it into the game:
Ryu, Ken, Akuma and Remy

Other added characters:
Shuma-Gorath, Arakune (watch out Sagat), Kitana

Posted by J-King on September 26, 2009 at 12:56 a.m. #270

*Yawn*

You said something Burger King?

Whatever!

And call'em 'rog' all you want, or 'rug' since your heading that way with your ignorances etc. 'Boxer's the usual smart term he always gets refered to though. Oh and i never said everyone, majority of isn't everyone. *sigh* get a dictonary while your at it.

My posts are long, but at least they're smartly put. Can't say the same the rest of the haters with a speeling 'bee' problem though! Or inability to read a post i've made and quote it back properly.

Everyone? Please....lay off the whoopers a bit, and try not to take everything so literity!

J-King

Posted by @J-King on September 26, 2009 at 1:29 a.m. #271

I see lots of words by you but no sense.
If rankings were based on how many people play a certain character Ryu would be able to pull a nuke out of his ass and blow the rest of the cast to pieces. Oh wait..! he pretty much can.

Just admit it, you're hard for Ryu/Daigo.

Just to reiterate - Rog is fine.

Posted by IrPanda on September 26, 2009 at 1:31 a.m. #272

Does anyone notice how similar Makoto and Goukens fighting styles are?

Posted by IrPanda on September 26, 2009 at 1:37 a.m. #273

A punch that hits low, a kick that hits high, a simlar over head, dive kicks (makoto own is a super), san type of ruching punch , a grab which can be combed into after, similar style mk

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 2:21 a.m. #274

@ Irpanda how I was playing stf3 early and I don;t see it?

Posted by delux on September 26, 2009 at 2:23 a.m. #275

lol j-king needs to shut up real talk

Posted by Carlo on September 26, 2009 at 3:33 a.m. #276

@IrPanda

i can see the correlation, her uppercut or what ever u call it is very similar to Goukens, her reflex backhand also!

Posted by Quake2815 on September 26, 2009 at 5:54 a.m. #277

SONIC HURRICANE. I hope this guile is fixed.

Posted by Garuda on September 26, 2009 at 6:41 a.m. #278

I don't know what to think of this. If it happened, it would be good, but it would change everything SF4 has been for me since launch. SO many new characters and ports of characters, a completely different system (2 Ultras?)...

If it is true though, I WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE GETTING THIS. On the launch day too. Also, Shnku Hadoken for Sakura? Sex.

Posted by Garuda on September 26, 2009 at 6:46 a.m. #279

PS.: Makoto AND Ibuki!?!? YES!

Posted by J-King on September 26, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. #280

[@J-King:I see lots of words by you but no sense. If rankings were based on how many people play a certain character Ryu would be able to pull a nuke out of his ass and blow the rest of the cast to pieces. Oh wait..! he pretty much can.

Just admit it, you're hard for Ryu/Daigo.]

Wow, how original that you couldn't come up with your own username? And never did i say, ranking or flow charts for tier lists, were based on how many people use a character, duh! And whats the Ryu/Daigo part based on exactly. Your overactive imagination perhaps. Wonder if your not all just the same user with a grudge against me? You're an idiot! Just admit that @J-King and your other usernames, and you'll be fine. Same goes for delux (or is that another of your 'hub' usernames *rolls eyes*). Don't hate the player, hate the game!

Zing.

Moving on from the kids, trolls and losers.

Far as the game goes, as said before its probably partly rumors mixed in with some truth. News of Ultras being performed in the air along with some of the new characters (Juri) sounds like it'll be add to the rather straight forward SF4 thats out now, with multiple choices of 'Ultras' to use within juggles/combos in the SF4 fighting engine.

But with the addition of some of the SF3 characters like Ibuki, Makoto and Dudley, along with some of the SF Alpha ones like Guy, and ST's Dee Jay. These combo heavy characters, are the ones that'll add a new flavor to the game, and certainly bring all-new mixups to the pre-existing matchups. My only sadness is that they've left out Charlie or Rolento in favor of Cody.

Still if, as they say the Dash version will have a new system, and the SF4 problems are tweaked considerably, this'll be something to look forward to indeed! Hopefully news will come that Capcom will give characters a 2nd 'super' option as they have done with the Ultras. Would add even more to the overall combos links/chains and EX potentials of characters, long as the life gauge is also tweaked to balance things out in that manner as well. I don't mind Guile being given back his 'Sonic Hurricane' move, long as the 'Super Flashkick' remains. Doesn't seem likely if they say they've kinda traded it and only one super remains in the game though?

I also hope they've dropped the 'draw game/last round' business, if the first round ends in a tie? And go back to the final 4th round of the previous SF2 games, or would fans on here prefer the judgement grading of 'SF3' to decide draw games again?

J-King

Posted by PSN ID - YoungSifu on September 26, 2009 at 9:04 a.m. #281

Akuma should have the parry he has in MvC2 where he flies down from the sky and chops his fallen adversary in the back, similar to one of his throws.

Im sure the image of Garuda's face (from Ex Plus Alpha)is in the background of one of the menu windows. That would be interesting because he'd definitely be top tier.

There should be a way that you can customise different button configurations and save them so you can switch between them in the network lobby.

The stages should have aspects of weather like fog, mist, rain, snow, leaves falling from trees etc. Not anything too over the top, but something pleasing to the eye and noticable without affecting the fight itself, just for visual purposes.

Alt costumes like chunli in sum very tight jeans with a lil T-Shirt and he hair out

The animation in the cut scenes need to be a Hell Of a Lot Sharper

Bisons eyes should ooze purple psycho power on the start up of his ultra, and he should have that dragon punch command move ghe has in MvC2, to negate projectiles (that move was brilliant)

Posted by J-King on September 26, 2009 at 9:06 a.m. #282

[J-King: But with the addition of some of the SF3 characters like Ibuki, Makoto and Dudley, along with some of the SF Alpha ones like Guy, and ST's Dee Jay. These combo heavy characters, are the ones that'll add a new flavor to the game]

Oops forgot to add Adon!

J-King

Posted by IrPanda on September 26, 2009 at 9:24 a.m. #283

@cutty
Mainly how the moves look no how she plays, but maybe i just notice it cuz i mian gouken a well.

Posted by Madness on September 26, 2009 at 9:48 a.m. #284

"Why should i tell you about balrog being nerfed?"

Yea this kid is an idiot. The post was sooo long and said nothing but "balrog needs nerfed,but im not gunna tell u y cuz it's true"

I don't even use the word scrub but asking for nerfs when you have no reason sure makes me want to. omg he needs nerfs because people are learning to rush people down? idiot. Ryu is seww balanced because you still can't combo into his ultra...

And it's unfair for blanka because blanka basically can't use any of his moves against balrog. Hit or miss, it doesn't matter.

Posted by Yakazuchi on September 26, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. #285

This uptate will be on CD or i must download it(like alternative costumes)

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 10:21 a.m. #286

@youngsifa its called the misogi and its for shin akuma and that would be cool if he had it becuase he can land it after the dragon punch focus dash cancel ultra great success and Akuma wouldn't be a joke character like Dan was

Posted by GUY on September 26, 2009 at 12:47 p.m. #287

DO I GET TO KEEP MY NIKES

Posted by purphaze on September 26, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. #288

madness hit the nail on the head lol

Posted by lol on September 26, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. #289

@280

You moron, it was "@J-King" in response.

wow stop typing, idiot.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. #290

@Guy I thought he wore chuck taylors instead of nikes cuz he is a blood right lol

Posted by GUY on September 26, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. #291

THESE LOOK LIKE SOME NIKE DUNKS YA FEEL ME
http://media.strategywiki.org/images/...

Posted by Danny on September 26, 2009 at 2:05 p.m. #292

I thought they'd be announcing it on TGS since yesterday

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 3:11 p.m. #293

those do look like some nikes lol the rasheed wallace dunks stf has to pay nike right?

Posted by Madness on September 26, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. #294

Michael jordan used to wear those in like 1986, and then apparently they were made illegal in the NBA

I remember wanting a pair when alpha two came out

Posted by so high on September 26, 2009 at 5:10 p.m. #295

I NEED TO KNOW SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

CAPCOM! COME TO ME!

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 5:10 p.m. #296

when is this annoucement happening cuz TGS is almost over and nothing yet but rumors

Posted by kornbeaner on September 26, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. #297

Please Improve Honda, Capcom. He can be an awesome character with some simple tweaks.

Posted by SureYouCan! on September 26, 2009 at 7:59 p.m. #298

no one ever said anything would be said at TGS. Capcom just kept saying "soon" and that lead to wishful thinking. I think one of the leaked rumors said October 1st or something. And some of the text on the Capcom blog that said to check back frequently for the update was colored orange... October... Fall... Halloween... Orange. Hopefully something is said soon =/

Posted by In cyberspace nobody hears you cry on September 26, 2009 at 9:19 p.m. #299

The Street Fighter way is not to cry everytime your Ryu loses to Mike "Balrog" Bison, his name isn't boxer - that's his fighting style/occupation.

Nor is the Street Fighter IV way to cry online to everybody that you lose to Balrog.

Try an RPG game or that Final Fantasy fighter so you can feel like a King.

Posted by IrPanda on September 26, 2009 at 9:42 p.m. #300

@299
They call him boxer because his name is different in the jap version of the game.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 10:58 p.m. #301

Monday MONDAY MONDAY I hope Akuma plays like a true Demon and alternate ultras and supers please and all this stuff seems to be on another disc not a downloadable content BOSS!!! TRILLA lol

I hope for the Metsu Shoryuken and I hope Ken can have his kicks again and I hope for the denjin Hadoken lol I love the Shotos

Posted by CrySpacedotcom/J-King on September 26, 2009 at 11:49 p.m. #302

@300 IrPanda

Yeah, and I called him Mike "Balrog" Bison because of his Balrog-M.Bison JP (not Jap = racial term when you shorthand it to Jap and faster shorthand is just JP, learn yourself) to US name change.

I know people say "boxer" but I didn't there.
Mike Tyson was probably the boxer they were thinking of, why it sounds looks similar - espec. back in the early 1990s so I say Mike instead of M.

Posted by Riggidig on September 27, 2009 at 1:23 a.m. #303

"Street Fighter 4: Mo' Money for Us, SUCKAS!"

Posted by some dude on September 27, 2009 at 5:08 a.m. #304

to people saying this is fake: the last big rumour was the ps3 slim and that turned out to be true. i'm not sure how accurate this list is but in some way or form it will also be true.

anyway, give akuma his aerial fireball super. i love that shizit. and nerf shoryukens please... way too spammable, especially with all the fkn shortcuts. [insert more complaints]

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 27, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. #305

@ some dude with all the new chracters people will switch I'm pretty sure I will try more people and hopefully some new characters will be worth playing instead of being a rascist mexican... I mean El fuerta was a diss to all Mexicans hopefully they dont' do it to a black dude hahaah

Posted by Douchebag on September 27, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. #306

Racist Mexican, cuttyb87? You mean racially stereotyped Mexican by any chance? Speaking of ethnic stereotypes, you got the jingoistic military meathead Guile, loquacious obese American Rufus, Bruce-Lee wannabe Fei Long, money-hungry African-American Balrog, and Spaniard effemininate twat Vega. Not to mention if pothead Dee Jay (why else would he be always smiling?) and Geronimo-inspired Thunder Hawk appear in the next installment.

Posted by where on September 27, 2009 at 1:52 p.m. #307

Where is Elena?!?!

Posted by Jimbo13 on September 27, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. #308

DO NOT WANT NEW DISC

New disc =

split community and smaller player base at a time when fighting games are in need of expansion in the audience.

PC release lag

It's a premium expansion agreed, but after waiting for 6+ months for a Lobby/filter by connection patch for online play they can go screw themselves.

How bout supporting the game they released with a few simple UI improvement/filter options that would make online play less painful.

And to the yearly sport analogy, people have been sick of that crap for awhile to but when you have a broad non-gamer audience you can get away with it.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 27, 2009 at 2:40 p.m. #309

Dj wasn't a pothead he was a DJ that dances thats all Balrog is a boxer thats for the money and no one cared Mexican should be mad at El fuerta because they finally get a full blown mexican character aand he is that douche bag cook lol and he sucks so wtf

Posted by Trolling4Suckers on September 27, 2009 at 5 p.m. #310

Capcom should be more realistic with character dialogue in the next game. It would look something like this:

Balrog - "I'mma 'bout to git my mothafukin' paper, nigga!!!
An' wat, nigga?"
Vega - "My, aren't you a cutie [directed towards guys of course]. Let's have anal sex."
El Fuerte - "Si senor, yo tengo tarjeta de verde."
Guile - "I'm a little pussy who likes to wait for people to attack, and then I strike."
Dee Jay - "Ya mon, you wanna git a hit of my finest Ganja weed?"
Sakura - "I would like to violate Ryu, but I think he favors virginity. Oh well."
Fei Long - "Ha ha. Stupid Amelican no good at Stleet Fightel Foul."
Rufus - "I'm a fat f*cking American. 'Nuff said."

Posted by Cascadian on September 27, 2009 at 5:30 p.m. #311

If only this sequel involved returning the beasts who were SFA2 and SF3 3S Chun Li. At least, give the girl back her anti-air special adn most of us Chunners will be happy.

Posted by Munchy on September 27, 2009 at 10:55 p.m. #312

Watch Hakan get cut out of the American version because OFFENSIVE URRRRRRR

I'd be sad if they did that, though. The game needs more grapplers.

Posted by fullspectrum on September 28, 2009 at 7:43 a.m. #313

Juri Confirmed!

http://www.jv247.com/games/3387-NEWS1...

Nick

Posted by Damascus on September 28, 2009 at 9:25 a.m. #314

I hope they nerfing Sagat a bit.

Posted by Anti-Islam on September 28, 2009 at 9:28 a.m. #315

(Hakan - An Arabic grappler obsessed with oil.)
omfg arabic terrorists in street fighter? hahaha

Posted by Burak on September 28, 2009 at 11:53 a.m. #316

Hakan is fully Turkish name and oil wrestling is an old Turkish sport.

So if this rumor is true then Capcom is making a big mistake Hakan is a Turk.

Posted by lordzro on September 28, 2009 at 12:13 p.m. #317

please anybody could chun li ultra be fix i hate that it almost never connect with combos thanks

Posted by gaf on September 28, 2009 at 1:11 p.m. #318

When was the last time rumors turned about to be 100% accurate

Posted by Happy Boy on September 28, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. #319

Happy Boy is a happy boy, even though he sucks at SF Four.

Posted by ryu lover! on September 28, 2009 at 4:55 p.m. #320

i hate graplers..... like gief....... his ultra is way overpowered and always hits online no matter what your doing... seriously try randomly ultraing offline and then do it online theres no way you can react online.... gief and all graplers = broken online... fix the netcode plz?

nerf blanka.... why the hell does all of his attacks have no punishment time... and how come when ever i land on top of blanka when he does that slide thing i get hit??? i guess blanka has spikes on his face or something =@

guile.... boring to play,boring to use

sagat... do i even have to say anything?????? insane prioty, to many air intercepts, his tiger upercut does insane dammage, he can spam fireballs like theres no tommorow, ex tiger shot goes to fast, and his ultra does to much dammage

ryu... while i do main ryu, i think his srk into ultra is the cheapest thing ever and ex tatsu into ultra

sakura: needs more hp and needs to be buffed up

gouken: number 1 why the hell does he have a regular throw that links directly in to ultra??? wtf..... number 2.... whos freaking idea was it to make all his fireballs so you cant go through them.. even if you projectile spam back at him he still has that lil force palm thing that goes full screen... or his ex jumping akuma thing :@ and number 3... why does he have that stupid @## counter thing.... it does waaaay to much dammage and instead of the dammage healing back i think it shouldnt and be more like a trade.... and no knock down....

there should be a thing so you can actually see the challenge being done in challenge mode.. i shouldnt have to go on yt to look it up

the end :@

Posted by @ ryu lover on September 28, 2009 at 5 p.m. #321

I think you should go play something else.

Posted by Serial on September 28, 2009 at 5:15 p.m. #322

Needs more Q...

Posted by Lolento on September 28, 2009 at 7:35 p.m. #323

@ J-King (#152)

You have a fair point about shotos still bringing some diversity into the game, and that Sean isn't even close to being the worst offender. But your comparison to SF3 is flawed.

First, because while SF3 had plenty of new characters, it failed to take advantage of the series popularity by throwing out all the popular ones. SFIV, OTOH, already has them all; so it has a safer ground for trying out something new. And face it, Sean is by no significant means a popular character (he's not even that popular in SF3, which is the least popular game in the series after SF1). That means he doesn't have neither the positive value of being a returning, well-known character, nor the value of being a newcomer, AND he's not even among the most unique. 3S would have much better representatives to pick in these regards.

Posted by chickenwings on September 28, 2009 at 8:39 p.m. #324

@ryu lover

U seriously make me not want to play these games. Blankas moves cant be punished? Seriously lrn2play. But then again u pick ryu and scrub out with easy mode combos and ultra setups.

Posted by Simon on September 28, 2009 at 10:11 p.m. #325

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/jin115/...

Posted by unrooolie on September 29, 2009 at 1:47 a.m. #326

A arabic wrestler? Did nobody say anything about darun mister?

Posted by Burak on September 29, 2009 at 4:35 a.m. #327

Simon #325 that looks good mate you have other pics as well?

Posted by MRT3ABAG on September 29, 2009 at 7:17 a.m. #328

lol #325 is fake (look at ultra bars)

its still awesome though, would like to see others.

Posted by streetfighterpro on September 29, 2009 at 7:17 a.m. #329

this all sounds good but give me air blocks and guy and thats all i need. guy is the freakin man BEST CHARACTER. screw blankas and balrogs. hell even ryu and ken. use a real character that takes skill none of this i can attack while i block and i have the easiest moves to pull off bull. lol. i have played sf for a long time love it but didnt really care too much for 4 but if they release this i might have to see how it turns out. so watch out for Guy, cause it will prob be me and i have no mercy for the weak

Posted by yes4me on September 29, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. #330

Personally I feel Capcom is copying on SNK. I am not 100% sure, but it sure does feel like it. Juri look like Kim in KOF and Hakan reminds me that other OLD fighting game in SNK... I forgot the name but it came out around the same time as SF2.

Posted by mitrum on September 29, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. #331

hi , super street fighter 4 coming in pc 2010 ?

Posted by JerseyFame on September 29, 2009 at 11:26 a.m. #332

I hope you guys realize that focus attack helps charge characters in almost no way, except for chun li who has moves like her forward flip kick and can advance on you directly from guard.

Guile gains nothing from absorbing a focus hit and dashing backwards. He gains little from absorbing a focus hit and dashing forward because he loses his charge. So you must pray that you can land a jab and then a 1 frame link into a medium punch so you can chain into flash kick or sonic boom for reset.

In other words its like foolishness to incorporate the focus attack into his gameplay. (Unless your Gilley or Geom Modinside or Fuson and you can cancel sonic booms consistently but even they will tell you that due to damage scaling its really a useless tactic.)

Focus canceling a flash kick can save you from being punished but there is not potential to juggle for extra damage.

So basically Ryu, Akuma, Sagat, Balrog, Rufus, Ken, Gouken, Abel, Gen (who can do his super and ultra back to back), Cammy, Seth, Zangief (yes even zangief) seem to benefit greatly from the new gameplay system while Guile players have to either outsmart and outplay, outsmart and out turtle or just survive to get a win, while everyone else can concentrate on hit confrim cancelling into an array of attacks.

Ono you are no fool. Repair that issue. I dont need a mega power buff liek Sagat got and I dont need 10 (literally) different ways to cancel into my ultra like Ryu has.

Just make a revolutionary update to Guiles gameplay so I dont have to run away or block everything. I want to smash the errors of these shotos and their safe moves (weak shoryuken, weak tiger knee, also balrogs dashing straight)
with precise knowledge of my destructive capabilties. Right now Guiles destructive capabilities are low. We all know this.

cmon man. fix him. let us play to win too.

Posted by arabianstreetfighter on September 29, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. #333

to all the dumbasses saying that turks are not arabic, they speak arabic and have similar customs, the country that is not considered arabian is iran which is a persian country, turkey is in the middle east and is considered an arabic country, if the people that said that were turkish themselves and they are ashamed of being arabic go suck on some falafel u dumb pricks, HAKAN 4 the WIN bout time they put a arabic guy up in street fighter

Posted by yoll on September 29, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. #334

@ #332

You can buffer ultra in a forward dash after focus attack.

Posted by Meta on September 29, 2009 at 12:23 p.m. #335

They really need to make new cabs for street fighter iv, with the 8 button lay out as well as for super street fighter iv, for the ppl who bought tha se n te, because if I go to the cades(what ever is left of them) ima get merked because I learned iv with 8 buttons :(

Posted by Ian on September 29, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. #336

This is so exciting. I'm gonna get it the second it comes out!

Posted by Deamon on September 29, 2009 at 4:56 p.m. #337

Please tone down Sagat for gods sake...(Lower his health to 1000, his stun to 900, and lower the damage of his moves i.e- heavy tiger uppercut to 150, Tiger shots to 50)

Posted by Hash on September 29, 2009 at 6:20 p.m. #338

Remove Seth and Gouken from console versions..they are very cheap.

Posted by Chun-Li-User on September 29, 2009 at 7:56 p.m. #339

Yeah I understand you about Gouken, but he is beatable. On the other hand. If you lose to a Seth user then you shouldn't be playing Street Fighter at all.

Posted by @^n00b on September 29, 2009 at 8:18 p.m. #340

I'd like to see you play Artura Sanchez's or Poongko's Seth and you tell me how crap he is.

Seth and Gouken are both good characters, but Gouken's definitely not near the top atm.

Posted by blart on September 30, 2009 at 5:31 a.m. #341

lol @310

Posted by Valter on September 30, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #342

@ 329

You are a skilless noob for wanting an air block. Stupid scrub. Guy's good but nevertheless, a pussy. Don't remove Gouken, he's a very unique character.

Posted by ChunDunLi on September 30, 2009 at 4:33 p.m. #343

To JerseyFame:

You can absorb a hit with the focus attack and then Ultra, flash kick, (untried) sonic boom + back fist combo, or go for a stylish dash forward jump back holding air grab for 10 more damage points and a little more stun.

You can also just do a full focus attack and miss. Most players will think that you're doing something retarded when...as soon as they try to attack you, you pull out the flash explosion ultra you've been charging the whole time. I do it with Chun-Li on rare occasions (because its a relatively new idea to me) but you may wanna try it.

Because of the hit range of the flash explosion, you can hit them for the full ultra even when they're lying down fully from the focus stun.

For everyone else talking about their favorite new additions or their favorite oldies (enter colloquialisms) it don' matta son. Chun-Li, read the name, say the name, bow down to the character sprites after google image searching..the name, will always be the Queen. I've never played sf3 (heard she was top tier in that game) and I've only ever played her in alpha, sf2, and sf4 so its not like I play her cuz she's easy.

But thats not all children... Guy, if introduced in SSFIV will be the new King. Sagat who? Never heard of him.

Ps. Why do Sagat players get mad when you call them a Sagat?

Posted by Locusta on September 30, 2009 at 5:29 p.m. #344

^
Truth about Chun being the Queen, but I can't wait to smack some testicles with Juri. She pimp.

Posted by Trolling4Suckers on September 30, 2009 at 8:15 p.m. #345

@#333 - Yeah, I can see Hakan's Ultra now. More than likely it will be "Suicide Bombing of the Infidels". Hakan will especially get pissed off when facing off against a female fighter with her "loose morals". Ha ha. Arabs are intolerant jacka$$es, plain and simple.

Posted by J-King on September 30, 2009 at 8:54 p.m. #346

[JerseyFame: Guile gains nothing from absorbing a focus hit and dashing backwards. He gains little from absorbing a focus hit and dashing forward because he loses his charge. So you must pray that you can land a jab and then a 1 frame link into a medium punch so you can chain into flash kick or sonic boom for reset.

In other words its like foolishness to incorporate the focus attack into his gameplay. (Unless your Gilley or Geom Modinside or Fuson and you can cancel sonic booms consistently but even they will tell you that due to damage scaling its really a useless tactic.)

Focus canceling a flash kick can save you from being punished but there is not potential to juggle for extra damage.

So basically Ryu, Akuma, Sagat, Balrog, Rufus, Ken, Gouken, Abel, Gen (who can do his super and ultra back to back), Cammy, Seth, Zangief (yes even zangief) seem to benefit greatly from the new gameplay system while Guile players have to either outsmart and outplay, outsmart and out turtle or just survive to get a win, while everyone else can concentrate on hit confrim cancelling into an array of attacks.

Ono you are no fool. Repair that issue. I dont need a mega power buff like Sagat got and I dont need 10 (literally) different ways to cancel into my ultra like Ryu has.

Just make a revolutionary update to Guile's gameplay so I dont have to run away or block everything. I want to smash the errors of these shotos and their safe moves (weak shoryuken, weak tiger knee, also balrogs dashing straight)
with precise knowledge of my destructive capabilties. Right now Guiles destructive capabilities are low. We all know this.

cmon man. fix him. let us play to win too.]

Excellent post Jerseyframe! Agreed!

Guile also needs his damage output/Strength, Stamina, Dizzy, Super/Ultra's fixed. Those levels need to be raised so badly, seriously!

Posted by ScytheWP on October 1, 2009 at 4:35 a.m. #347

Just read over about half of the posts, since I have nothing to do this morning...and the oddest thing seems to be how you didn't put your name at the end of post 346 J-King.

A very unfortunate thing, that even I am sad to say, is that I can't picture Guile getting a giant buff. The sonic hurricane move is definitely an improvement, especially if they don't require you to charge the move (as in MVC2, down forward, down forward, punch)

JerseyFame, I know you like Guile. I main Guile in STFA3, just because I loved his play style since STF2 Turbo. The problem is in these current days, there are inevitably characters who will be worse than other characters, despite what the get.

If a character gets buffed, do you seriously believe he would receive a large reworking of his damage output, stamina, dizzy, super, and ultra? I don't believe they would change his super, since his game revolved around his EX moves. His new ultra would be enough to satisfy me, so I would stop worrying about the other one. His stamina is average, that won't change. I agree with the dizzy...it is unfortunate that they believed he would be too aggressive, so they gave him a low stun. Hopefully that is fixed. His damage output is fine, realistically.

These are just my views...don't take them to heart, I'm just saying...don't expect too much of a buff if you don't want to be hurt.

Posted by AfghanAnt on October 1, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. #348

Thanks for stealing details and not giving credit.

Posted by ihateracists on October 1, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. #349

@345 u r one ignorant prick, get edcated

Posted by Noob on October 1, 2009 at 5:38 p.m. #350

I say cut some of the lame chars first. Like that f*cking Seth. Useless char. Capcom should be ashamed for introducing him.

Rufus is SH*TE aswell.

BTW, Turks speak Turkish, and are "almost" a part of Europe. Nothing Arab about them. Exept the incorperation of the Moslim belfief and culture.

I'm pro airblock and Guy.

Posted by Noob on October 1, 2009 at 5:39 p.m. #351

And against ULTRACOBOS. Make them all super.

Posted by ChunDunLi on October 1, 2009 at 8:56 p.m. #352

If you play as Guile and you cant LINK COMBO then you need to learn how to LINK COMBO. Guile is plain deadly how he can take a light punch all the way to a flash kick, super, or super-to-ultra.

For those that don't know what a link is:

A link is doing a basic move right after a basic move finishes. Example: (crouching) light punch ----> (crouching)medium punch (then after that you can just easily combo a flash kick or ----light sonic boom --> spinning backfist)

Guile's light punches and kicks are freaking fast as hell. Score just a single crouching/standing light kick/punch and you could be slamming down an EX flashkick or a super long combo involving...ex sonic boom + focus attack + flashkick + super + flash explosion + attempted or completed suicide of your opponent.

TIMING -------------------

The key to linking is good rhythm. The typical link starting from a crouching light punch + light punch + (wait about the time it takes for a light punch to launch off then hit the medium kick and....immediately bust a flash kick or something.

The second your latest crouching light punch hits, you need to wait out 1 imaginary light punch time and then hit your crouching medium punch.

Posted by ScytheWP on October 2, 2009 at 12:38 p.m. #353

ChunDunLi

You sounded like you're trying to help, until I realized you don't know too much about Guile in his STF4 persona. It's obvious timing is important, so you wasted quite a lot of time posting this. Lets compare Guile to Balrog...arguably the best charge character in 4. Guile's light punches and kicks come out almost too fast to punish. If a Ryu shoryukens, and you're from the distance, you need to approach then do this. You're probably not going to be able to punish that well at all, just getting in 1 SB, or 1 or 2 light punch/kicks. Balrog's punches come out perfectly, where you don't need to mash the buttons, instead you can assess if you actually have a connect on an opponent.

ex sonic boom + focus attack + flashkick + super + flash explosion + attempted or completed suicide of your opponent.

1 - EX sonic boom means you can't complete your super in this string

2 - His ultra already does no damage, so you want to get it where it only clips with a total of 3 hits, and is completely damage scaled?

3 - If you could do his super...why would you. It's terrible, and any good guile player knows that.

4 - The amount achieved for the damage dealt you might as well just....(Sagat) cross up, light kick, light kick, medium punch, uppercut, focus cancel, spin kick, ultra

5 - It isn't practical at all...in fact, if you can show me a professional guile using that combo, EX SB aside, I'll retract everything I've said in this post...and won't think of you as retarded

Posted by sam1456 on October 2, 2009 at 4:58 p.m. #354

f*** capcom hakan is turkish not arabic there's a big difference character stereotypes anyone capcom is the biggest for that

Posted by Sonic Explosion on October 2, 2009 at 5:57 p.m. #355

Fix guile, plain and simple

His fighting style is one of the very best (after all, how else has Guile almost always gone along fine with so few moves?). He's the kind of guy that would always be B to A tier if his moves weren't so much more broken. Which is exactly what some of them are (ultra, flash kick among other things). Its just sad to see his kind of potential go to waste because of obvious nerfing and broken attributes that could easily be fixed. I'll put it this way: Guile currently is a lion in shackles. People see the lion he could easily be by merely removing these simple shackles - hence his high position in the popular demand for characters needing fixing.

Besides, hes a veteran (a popular SF face) that started out as A-tier and a lot of people like the character (has got a lot of aesthetic appeal) but most are afraid to actually use him in battle because of his broken attributes. Still, he has a pretty dedicated fan base in spite of his current difficulties. What im trying to say here is this: if his fighting game were up to his aesthetic appeal (improving his fighting game is a matter of simple fixes as ive earlier mentioned and many Guile fans have elaborated about its details on forums all over the internet), then you would see huge crowds of other-wise Guile fans return back into his fold overnight (more then you would with the other characters). Just dont make it such a burden to use him! Fix him and they will come!

Sincerely,

America.

Posted by J-King on October 2, 2009 at 7:23 p.m. #356

[Just read over about half of the posts, since I have nothing to do this morning...and the oddest thing seems to be how you didn't put your name at the end of post 346 J-King.]

I didn't put it down last time, cos i ran out of space after quoting jerseyframe! There is limited amount of letters that can be posted afterall.

Stop going on about trivia matters man, and get back to talking about Super SF4?

J-King

Posted by Great Gama on October 3, 2009 at 2:23 a.m. #357

@ #246 and #326
Darun Mister wasn't Arabic - he was from India.

Posted by Junior da Silva on October 3, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #358

"Hakan - An Arabic grappler obsessed with oil."

...and I guess Balrog and Dee Jay are obsessed with fried chicken and watermelon. Grow the f**k up.

Posted by ChunDunLi on October 4, 2009 at 8:30 p.m. #359

ScytheWP

I clearly outlined the fact that there were plenty of link options that did not involve using the Super combo. I believe that linking is a rather unexplored aspect to Guile's strategy and I'm simply trying to put the suggestion of its use out there.

I'll admit that i did make a mistake on the ex sonic boom then super. Just me getting carried away in the excitement. Only the ultra is possible after the focus attack and the combo can be found in one of his hard challenges.

His ultra does around 500 damage which is the average ultra damage in the game. So it does not, by any means, do "no damage".

The super is clearly a style finish if you were able to get away without using meter and the purpose of using an ultra after is to finish off the opponent.

Finally, you could learn a lesson or two from most of the good ladies and gentlemen of event hubs and refrain from calling people you've never met "retarded".

Posted by AusheyForever on October 5, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. #360

Why was Fei Long made so weak in Street Fighter 4. You have a character based off of Bruce Lee, arguably the greatest fighter known to man and the character based off of him can't get any love???? My brother is the best Fei Long fighter that i ever seen and he has major trouble with the fighters in SF4, especially Blanka. Fei Long's moves are outdated and aren't powerful enough, his ultra and super sucks becomes you can only do it with his focus, they can't be link in any combos, i just don't get it. Everyone says Fei Long is their favorite character, but hardly ever see him played online. I hope they bring Fei Long up with some better moves and Ultra's. Hey i was wondering if Fei Long was made so weak because the Japanese who design the game aren't big fans of Bruce Lee, he did kick their ass all through out his movies. I guess payback is a bitch!!!!

Posted by fei long on October 6, 2009 at 6:28 a.m. #361

'i do not fight in championship mode cos of all the dirty cheats tat use lag.i find it hard doing any of my combos dashes and focus attacks.only moves i can do get canceled out and whiff and with the damage from their moves (sagat,gief,blanka and some of the female fighters)i just cant cut it' yours truely fei long. wattaaaa

Posted by ssf4 fan on October 6, 2009 at 6:32 a.m. #362

cant wait super lag fighter 4 coming.so will it have lag turbo.like 1-5 or just randam lag speed online.

Posted by KARIN on October 10, 2009 at 9:20 a.m. #363

KARINNNN

KARINNNNNNNNNNN

KARINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Posted by OCs on October 10, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. #364

dear capcom, no old characters! nothing but new orignal characters!! thanks.

Posted by :/ on October 14, 2009 at 5:57 p.m. #365

what happened with karin being in it and the supposedly goukens daughter?

Posted by casan on October 15, 2009 at 4:10 p.m. #366

seth the worst annoying boss in a steet fighter game and to easy. not only that but lack of imagination by capcom

bring gill as a final boss ten times better than stupid seth.

who wouldnt want to see seth vs m bison? huh

Posted by casan on October 15, 2009 at 4:11 p.m. #367

my bad
who wouldnt want to see a gill vs m bison fight? that;s what im talking about

GILL BRING HIM BACK

Posted by RLE on October 17, 2009 at 8 p.m. #368

hmm i'm not overly impressed with the character additions. Hakan and Juri sound intriguing.. i guess i'll wait for more info on them. as for the returning chars, i'm only excited about Dee Jay, Ibuki, and Guy. T. Hawk and Adon are ok. But Dudley, Makoto and Cody? Lame. I'd much rather see Yun, Yang and Sean (WAYYY better than Dan IMO) than those 3.

Posted by Cerberusfx on October 20, 2009 at 6:10 a.m. #369

bring akuma's Tenma Gou Zankuu back !_!

Posted by what on October 20, 2009 at 2:37 p.m. #370

I hope they make a sequel anime to the Ties that Bind. But only better this time.

Posted by Me on October 21, 2009 at 9:11 a.m. #371

Let's Talk about Street Fighter some more.

Posted by Lord Anubis on October 22, 2009 at 3:01 p.m. #372

LOOK-----Capcom just needs to bring sagat down from olympus!!---And keep GOUKEN in the game!! After that I dont give a F*** what they do!!

Posted by SWEET!!! on October 22, 2009 at 9:54 p.m. #373

COOL STUFF HOPEFULLY ALL THIS WITH NO EXCEPTION CAN COME TO LIGHT... I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE 3RD STRIKERS... YANG AND ELENA ARE A COUPLE OF CHARACTERS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN A SF4 VERSION... BUT I DON'T WANNA ASK FOR TOO MUCH LOL!!!
KICK ASS!!!

Posted by Nicky Do on October 23, 2009 at 12:23 p.m. #374

Capcom, here is what would be the best character set to add for your last Street Fighter game:

-Karin
-Elena
AND

-A character that compliments Cammy's story line, besides Bison. A super Shadowloo Doll would be ideal. Cammy needs to have a thong set with really tall boots and make it optional to put her hair down. That would be AMAZING.

Remix the themes and make the graphics better and smoother.

Posted by Kaze No Stigma on October 24, 2009 at 1:47 p.m. #375

umm this dude just named 10 characters from what i heard and an actual video there are only 8 new characters and if they add all thoughs moves it has to be a new disk if not it will jack up the system and crap on the game soo alot of this is fake to me because they only announced deejay t hawk and that juri chick which looks like she could be my fave, lover her ultra so yea we just got to wait and see so we cant trust rumors

Posted by ummmm on October 24, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. #376

umm cody dudly and adon are kick ass real good fighters better than the y bros and any of the girl characters so yea cant wait

Posted by 13 - 1 = on October 27, 2009 at 9:26 p.m. #377

Twelve needs to be in this game.

Incredibly fascinating move set. Who wouldn't want to fight a gliding, morphing freak that can turn invisible?

Posted by maya on October 28, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. #378

that tatoo is sick

Posted by dayasha on November 1, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. #379

they need to make sagat stronger he ain't got enough moves and his ultra should do more damage and he should have more energy also finally make his fire balls faster they can and should be faster that will make sagat playable.

Posted by xnj on November 1, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. #380

has anybody seen this picture of Hakan?
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5292...

Posted by Javier on November 4, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. #381

that's not Hakan, that's Darun from SF EX.

Why do Americans think Arabs and Indians are the same?

Posted by kleptodathief on November 7, 2009 at 12:13 p.m. #382

i just hadookend in my pantz!

Posted by knuk-soo-cow on November 7, 2009 at 12:31 p.m. #383

SSF4 better be faster!!!

Posted by elFER on November 10, 2009 at 12:28 p.m. #384

I think Hakan is going to be like the Assassin's Creed caracter. We dont have any with a hood, and knifes.

=OD

Posted by unknown on November 12, 2009 at 8:35 a.m. #385

cody has a knife...

Posted by kumo on November 15, 2009 at 8:26 p.m. #386

i think capcom should read these rumors and make them into fact =P

Posted by darko_p86 on November 16, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. #387

They should bring Charlie back. There is so many characters who perform the shoryouken move. Why not bring Guile's buddy to the mix? And I'd like to see Ken's 2nd ultra to be the one from Marvel Superheroes vs. SF where he starts out fire spinnkick and then takes it to the air, then finishing up wit a heel kick from above that slams the opponent to the ground.

Posted by elFER on November 17, 2009 at 10:22 a.m. #388

Zombie Charlie?
Hasan or Hakan? this is curius....

I want new caracter, i crazy Aztec guy that want collect the blood of his oponets, maybe like Evangelion caracter with his moves..=oD

Posted by K_Y_0 on November 17, 2009 at 7:21 p.m. #389

Why not "SHUN", Ryu's brother!!!... Or... "GOUTETSU", Gouken & Ryu senseï. I hope Gouken's got a normal Shoryu...
rrrrhhrhhrh, I CANT WAIT!!!

Posted by anon on November 18, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. #390

More of this is true all the time. I'm a little dissapointed by the lack of Karin though.

Posted by BlazBlue on November 21, 2009 at 12:57 p.m. #391

Capcom please fix Vega and Fei Long and leave out the proposed "oil grappler" and replace him(if he ever existed in the first place) with Alex from sf3.

Posted by Shoryuken987205 on November 22, 2009 at 9:41 p.m. #392

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RELEASE THIS GAME ON PS2 OR PC!!!!!!!!!!!!
(And also, I think its great with the new Korean Juri character!!!)

Posted by Shoryuken987205 on November 22, 2009 at 9:49 p.m. #393

I think Hakan the second new character should be like this...
.Stubble and a Genie hat thing
.Dark skin some covered in oil
.Oil grapple producing attacks
.Not a huge wrestler (Not like Zangief or Darun more like Abel)
.White pants
.Colorful vest top
.Mabye a moustache

AGHHHH!!!!! I can't wait a small bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(If anyone from Capcom is reading this, I doubt there not but please take my ideas into consideration.

Posted by Shoryuken987205 on November 22, 2009 at 9:57 p.m. #394

And another thing NO! Alpha Counter! It was designed for SFA, SFA2, SFA2G, SFA3 ect. And if Cody has one why not give Guy one!!!
I agree that the SFA characters work well with the game but the 3rd generation...? I don't know about it...
New Focus system now, i'm all up for that!!! Awesome! Man just awesome!
and Siberian Storm what a smacker maybe it is a spinning pile driver with snow whirling around it and its strats in air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well thats enough for today but still please take my ideas into consideration.

Posted by Shoryuken987205 on November 22, 2009 at 9:59 p.m. #395

And now for the full version...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RELEASE THIS GAME ON PS2 OR PC!!!!!!!!!!!!
(And also, I think its great with the new Korean Juri character!!!)
I think Hakan the second new character should be like this...
.Stubble and a Genie hat thing
.Dark skin some covered in oil
.Oil grapple producing attacks
.Not a huge wrestler (Not like Zangief or Darun more like Abel)
.White pants
.Colorful vest top
.Mabye a moustache

AGHHHH!!!!! I can't wait a small bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(If anyone from Capcom is reading this, I doubt there not but please take my ideas into consideration.
And another thing NO! Alpha Counter! It was designed for SFA, SFA2, SFA2G, SFA3 ect. And if Cody has one why not give Guy one!!!
I agree that the SFA characters work well with the game but the 3rd generation...? I don't know about it...
New Focus system now, i'm all up for that!!! Awesome! Man just awesome!
and Siberian Storm what a smacker maybe it is a spinning pile driver with snow whirling around it and its strats in air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well thats enough for today but still please take my ideas into consideration

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 24, 2009 at 1:45 a.m. #396

Now all this game needs is a way to prevent all the turtles from stealing victories lol ;)

Posted by fightclub on November 24, 2009 at 2:02 a.m. #397

Actually all I heard was reasons that benefit turtling more.And reasons that balance is going to get thrown out the window.Even with their bias the game is pretty balanced compared to other horribly unbalanced capcom games.Blanka is solid but the fact is you have to play him lame same for half the cast. Honestly sagat and ryu are the only ones that need a nerf.And not huge ones they shouldnt get free ultras for trading ,sagats damage on ultra, and stun does not block for you (which helps sim land his ultra)thats it.Time for some tekken.

Posted by darkness on November 24, 2009 at 3:45 a.m. #398

Too many new characters of american/european or east asian descent. we need some from africa, australia and the middle east.

Posted by Becoming True on November 24, 2009 at 5:38 a.m. #399

So this list is becoming confirmed more and more...

Posted by THATS NOT HAKAN on November 24, 2009 at 6:27 a.m. #400

thats not hakan thats , Darun from street fighter ex

Posted by Cakeair on November 24, 2009 at 6:40 a.m. #401

wow, if Hakan does turn out to love oil

they should just call it "super stereotype fighter"

Posted by OMG on November 24, 2009 at 6:51 a.m. #402

Makoto,
Adon,
Guy
Ibuki
Cody

M
A
G
I
C

Coincidence? I think not!

Posted by xnj on November 24, 2009 at 7:16 a.m. #403

Guy and Adon!?! Wtf capcom. Nobody cares about those characters.

Posted by Everyone knew it on November 24, 2009 at 8:16 a.m. #404

This list should have been confirmed when the threads on SRK were completely removed instead of closed...

Posted by Dub on November 24, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. #405

I would like to see some of the street fighter ex alpha characters like Kairi, and volcano rosso, and hakuto, and nanesse

Posted by Cvs on November 24, 2009 at 12:43 p.m. #406

I love the fact that Cody, Guy, and Adon are in it! Great job capcom!

Posted by freebsdpowa on November 24, 2009 at 2:17 p.m. #407

What we all need is a PC version of the game... and they should add pc vs xbox online features... And they should try to make the online experience less laggy, just like GGPO.

Posted by crosscounta on November 24, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. #408

@406
I'd like to see those characters too except we wont because capcom doesnt own them, which kinda sucks cause kairi and garuda are pretty cool

Posted by Bushiryu_junkie on November 24, 2009 at 2:56 p.m. #409

Now that Guy is in I don't care who else makes the cut. I hope that Guy is a beast. I don't need S tier just solid A or High B. Then again he was considered low tier in SFA2 but, I still rock, and see people rocking high tiers with him. I guess it all comes down to player skill. Anyway...
3 CHEERS FOR BUSHIN!!! LONG LIVE THE NINJA!!!

Posted by Quancro on November 24, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. #410

i belive in this 100% ihope is like that

Posted by yesss! on November 24, 2009 at 3:56 p.m. #411

i can not wait till this game gets cause adon, guy, cody, and dee jay

Posted by tekkenallday on November 24, 2009 at 5 p.m. #412

rambo should be in the game

Posted by Lamar Namou on November 24, 2009 at 5:53 p.m. #413

Ah... The racism of the Street Fighter series

The asians look badass, the a spoiledish American guy with a Yatch, a patriotic american guy with a weird hair style and a mohawk, a fat slob American who's stubborn, an indian who practices Yoga and wears paint on his face along with skulls around his neck, a Mexican that's wearing old native american style clothes, an angry black stubborn boxer, Juri is a stereotyped Tae Kwon Do practition because all Korean people use Tae Kwon Do which apparently only involves your feet even though it's suppose to involve both your fist and feet (Thus the name), a Chinese Dude who looks like Bruce Lee, and now, what is this? An ARABIC guy who has an obsession with Oil, are they gonna make him fat, have Aladdin clothes and make him breathe fire too?

Posted by Quancro on November 24, 2009 at 7:05 p.m. #414

a want to see more and more and more

Posted by DNA on November 24, 2009 at 9 p.m. #415

@ #414,

Fei Long isn't racist depiction of Chinese, he's a tribute to Bruce Lee. Just as Balrog is a tribute to arrogant ass Mike Tyson. El Fuerte is tryin to represent the amazingly underrated Luchador culture in Mexico. Koreans use Tae Kwon Do, so why make a character to represent them and not have them use Tae Kwon Do, especially since SF needed to make a Tae Kwon Do character (such a well-known style)? So they hit two birds with one stone by making Juri. Dhalsim is noble and wise in the game, I don't find that racist. Hakkan's features and attributes are just speculation at this point.

Only thing I could mildly agree with u is the way they made T.Hawk and Rufus. But overall you're just acting a little tight.

Posted by hey on November 24, 2009 at 9:40 p.m. #416

wheres alex

Posted by kartisungrwqql6523 on November 25, 2009 at 6:47 a.m. #417

What's gonna happen with Characters like

Ingrid,D.D. and Rook from capcom fighting All stars ???
and will other capcom characters have Cameos in the game ???

Posted by GOUKEN on November 25, 2009 at 8:35 a.m. #418

i wonder if it will be an add on or will we have to unlock all the characters again?

Posted by GOUKEN on November 25, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. #419

i wanna see ORO brought back, as well as Q!

Posted by Holy Oracle's Pants on November 25, 2009 at 11:18 p.m. #420

It looks like this article is absolutely perfect in predicting the future. Dudley and the arab guy haven't been announced yet, but since everything else in this article has been right, they will be. Wow, whoever wrote this gets a 10 out of 10 for Precognition. Good Job.

-eSaR211 <- is my brother

Posted by Random Guy on November 26, 2009 at 5:16 a.m. #421

To Holy Oracle's Pants:

Well not everything is ture, they(article) said that both Ultras are avavilble at the same time, but its not true you have selectable uiltras

Posted by elFER on November 27, 2009 at 10:42 a.m. #422

will be great a Jackie Chan character with funny moves,
or a figther that plays soccer
or a new boss like Geminis Gold Saints Seiya
or a crazy guy thats belibe he is a superheroe

Posted by molee on November 28, 2009 at 12:06 a.m. #423

new moves:
RYU: joudan sokuto geri.
KEN: ryusenkyaku
GOUKI: teleport parry(where he comes from the sky)
GUILE: any new move plz!
CHUN-:LI:i want her hoyokusen with the same sf3 command!
(qcf*2+k)
and old kikoken command (qcf+p)
GOUKEN: plz get him an original ultra!(some denjin move)
BISON: i want the psycho shot back!
and an ultra with is unique
(diff frm his special moves)
FEI-LONG: get him a flash kick type move
(similar to law frm tekken)
characters whom i want 2 see:
RETSU and
GEKI(with all of ibuki's moves i.e with no claw this time)
want the 2 japanese chars frm sf back.
and a kalaripayattu fighter from india.

Posted by Jopperz on November 29, 2009 at 7:39 p.m. #424

I would be over the moon if Dudley being added is true how ever i don't like the idea of them over complicating stuff with two Ultas but like it will matter, if you main in a character you get used to him and i didn't see much trouble in choosing between supers on Street Fighter III so it will be all good.

Any way i don't care what they do as long as Ryu and Sagat get nerfed slightly.

Posted by ActualProof on December 6, 2009 at 7:06 p.m. #425

@molee actually Gouken's ultra is original lol... the reason the Shin Shoryuken exists in SF3 is because of him (The power of emptiness)

I feel that the ultra system needs to be seriously evaluated again. At least characters ultra meter should build differently from one another. Like Gief he wins by getting his ass beat. Or characters like Rose and Chun-li where when they get their ultra you have to change your working strategy because one well timed zoned fireball = chun-li blasting you from across the screen.

Posted by hyperbomb on December 6, 2009 at 9:12 p.m. #426

so cody has an alpha counter so how will it be used by super meter or ultra?

Posted by @427 on December 8, 2009 at 9:55 a.m. #427

Looks like the counter was his "Bad Spray"-going by the interview today. Probably just a regular move-might be EXable (super meter)

All along I thought this rumor list meant it was the same counter you used to do while blocking in SFA-but this still works out. :-)

Posted by K_Y_0 on December 8, 2009 at 7:46 p.m. #428

Plz, gives normal SHORYUKEN to GOUKEN, plz!!!...

Posted by Shoryuken987205 on December 10, 2009 at 9:27 p.m. #429

Wait it just came to me...What if these characters had these moves...AWESOME!!!
Geki,I agree with molee, he should have comeback but mate, leave the claw so Vega can be mashed some how into his story, make him have a Ulrta Combo like this...
Geki kicks the opponant up into the air and then teleports up himself then he throws heaps of nija stars and some hit the opponant, ink flys everywhere!!!
Eagle, YES YES YES, IF dudly the English boxer does make a comeback it would be great to have these 2 posh English guys fight each other plus Eagle was a great character with the stick and all!!!
Make Eagle hvae this as an Ultra...
Hits the opponant with sticks, then whacks them hard and goes into slow-mo impact, Eagle and enemy jumps and Eagle smashes them to the ground, COOL AS!!!
Goutetsu, he is really a ghost bought back by the sprirt of the Dark Hadou and fights Ryu, Ken, Gouken and Akuma to teach the real meaning of the murdering art.
Well there all my ideas recently for the game so keep up the good work Capcom!!!
(ooo!!! I'm wetting my self with joy that The Street Fighter legacy keeps fighting on...)

Posted by hehe on December 11, 2009 at 4:47 p.m. #430

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/7086/z708648...

Posted by elFeR on December 11, 2009 at 8:05 p.m. #431

Hey!! in the END of the game a little boy with powers appear..... he will be in the SSF 4????

you remember?????

Posted by elFeR on December 11, 2009 at 8:56 p.m. #432

here is the video, SSF 4 is one year later??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMFbYP...

Posted by up300tv on December 12, 2009 at 6:38 a.m. #433

they need to bring back Bison move wit the little psyco energy ball lol

Posted by 8 faces Mcgee on December 14, 2009 at 5:30 p.m. #434

1)Dudley *
2)Birdie
3)Ibuki *
4)makoto *
5)Dean (From Final Fight 3)
6)Elena *
7)R.mika *
8)Karin *
9)Rolento *

Retsu,eagle,yun,yang,mike,joe and all them others can have
cameo appearances.

Like Sean from SF3 should only be in Ken's ending or intro

Posted by Lourge the 21st on December 14, 2009 at 5:39 p.m. #435

Shadoloo VS S.I.N.

M.bison Seth
Sagat Adon
Vega Juri
Balrog Birdie

Original 8 VS New Challengers 8

Ryu Fei Long
ken Dee Jay
Chun Li Cammy
Blanka T.hawk
E.honda EL Furete
Dhalsim C.viper
Zangief Rufus
Guile Abel

Akuma Gouken
Guy Vs Cody
Makoto Ibuki
Dudley Alex

Posted by Dante on December 16, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. #436

This list is looking pretty real to me.

Guy, Cody, and Adon have all been confirmed. It looks like Ibuki, Dudley, and Makoto are up next.

Posted by ZERO2269 on December 18, 2009 at 9:16 p.m. #437

sweet!!

Posted by 4everbuffy on December 19, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. #438

This list was so true. I kind of wish that the guy was wrong about Dudley. But anyway.

Posted by 433 on December 19, 2009 at 11:51 a.m. #439

@ 433 I think the boy in ending in Balrog is Abel and the Abel in the game is a failed experiment of Seth Bison's new Body so they did some things to him and messed the Kid up so now one year later the story will either finish the story or start a new one but did he have Satsu no hado powers or Bleece powers cuz the movie that the game came in showed Seth trying to steal Satsu no Hado but who knows... I just want an Anime movie

Posted by TENINCHLUVABOY on December 19, 2009 at 1:47 p.m. #440

you fools only i know the truth about candy.

Posted by Loverboi on December 20, 2009 at 2:16 p.m. #441

Yes, it seems to be following the rumor list:

Next being Makoto, Ibuki, Dudley and Hakan

Posted by Anon on December 21, 2009 at 12:24 p.m. #442

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/su...

If you watch this fight between Juri and T-hawk, check out their ultra bars. T-Hawk has a I in his while Juri has a II. Does this mean we will have to choose our ultra?

Posted by Edy on December 21, 2009 at 7:13 p.m. #443

ELENA

Posted by 4everbuffy on December 21, 2009 at 7:36 p.m. #444

@ Lourge the 21st

In fact is something like this

Shadoloo VS S.I.N.

M.bison vs Seth
Sagat vs Juri
Vega Vs C. Viper
Balrog vs Hakan

Street Fighter 1, 2 vs Street Fighter 3, 4, and Alpha

Ryu(SF1) vs Rose(SFA1)
ken(SF1) vs Cody(SFA3)
Gen(SF1) vs Guy(SFA1)
Adon(SF1) vs Dan(SFA1)
Chun Li(SF2) vs Sakura(SFA2)
Blanka (SF2)
E.honda(SF2)
Dhalsim(SF2)
Zangief(SF2) vs El Fuerte(SF4)
Guile(SF2) vs Abel(SF4)
Fei Long(SSF2) vs Makoto(SF3TS)
Dee Jay(SSF2) vs Dudley(SF3FI)
Cammy(SSF2) vs Ibuki (SF3FI)
T.hawk(SSF2) vs Rufus(SF4)
Akuma(SSF2T) vs Gouken(SF4)

Posted by notsureifserious on December 22, 2009 at 12:39 a.m. #445

@ 423
there are at least 2 characters form your list already in Capcom's universe (3 if you count the comic books):
"a figther that plays soccer" -Roberto Miura from Rival Schools
"a crazy guy thats belibe he is a superheroe" -Skullomania from Street Fighter EX
"a Jackie Chan character with funny moves" -in one of the new Street Figther comic book there’s a fight between Fei Long and a group of martial artists that look like famous kung fu film characters - amongst others Jackie Chan in “Drunken Master” look alike, Jet Li in “Once Upon a Time in China” look alike and the Master of The Flying Guillotine - the big bad from THE movie that inspired Capcom to make the Street Fighter itself, and where the idea for Dhalsim came from.

Posted by el Fer on December 22, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. #446

woww great

his guy from Prototype game remember you something?

http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uplo...

Posted by gostw on December 22, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. #447

There won't be "Hakan" in SSF4. There will be Elena also.

Posted by fighter generator on December 23, 2009 at 12:56 a.m. #448

I'm sure there will be one new character and Hakan seems probable.

SSF4 character selection screen:
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np3...

As you can see there will be at least 4 more characters, and probably one of them will be a new one.
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np3...

The ??? field will be filled with 3 SF3 characters.

Posted by nomalit on December 31, 2009 at 6:47 a.m. #449

Hakan is Turkish Fighter...

Posted by PCPCPCPC on January 1, 2010 at 12:46 p.m. #450

dont see PC.

Posted by -_- on January 4, 2010 at 8:12 p.m. #451

"Dudley was searching for his car in Third Strike, in this game he's searching for a rose."
WTF!!

Posted by ZERO2269 on January 5, 2010 at 12:16 a.m. #452

YES MAKOTO FTW

Posted by joe on January 6, 2010 at 4:24 p.m. #453

i think you should change ryu's Ultra combo because it's easy to dodge.

Posted by to #8 on January 8, 2010 at 12:37 p.m. #454

SUPER STREET FIGHTER 4 IS GONNA ROCK! I'M WITH YOU ALL THE WAY!!

Posted by Mambo Sauce on January 8, 2010 at 11:41 p.m. #455

Im gunna s**t!!! i cant f--kin wait for this awesome spectacle xD

Posted by NUGGRUGGABUSS on January 9, 2010 at 12:02 a.m. #456

DUDLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and plz give fei long/vega(claw)/and guile some improvements kthx

Posted by Woah on January 10, 2010 at 7:03 a.m. #457

The fact that this thing got a crazy name like Shangri'la right means no one should be doubting anymore by now. Can't wait to see the remaining chars. :-)

Posted by Jin Saotome on January 13, 2010 at 3:47 a.m. #458

Im Gonna Take Ya 4 a ride
METSUUUUUU................. ya know whut happens next hahaha

Posted by New Characters! on January 15, 2010 at 9:34 a.m. #459

Hakan FTW!! =]

Posted by SFhowling on January 15, 2010 at 9:45 a.m. #460

it's great to see something may be coming soon confirming the final roster (rip karin). but i'm still trying to build some steam for tweaks to other things to. for fei long i'd like to see improved speed on the rekka ken and maybe return of that step forward kick he had in ssf2t and alpha3. also maybe ryu get his from 3s. maybe two rival fights in single player like alpha3 which had a mid rival and end rival before final boss (rip karin). dramatic battle would be dope too. two players co-op vs powered up forms of bison(dictator), seth or akuma or something like alpha1 ryu and ken together. or any character combo. maybe even 2 on 1 all player controlled. and finally, bring back karin. sakura needs her own ken.

Posted by Nelaelu on January 15, 2010 at 5:19 p.m. #461

More characters DOESN'T mean better! They should spend time making new moves/ultras look better instead of adding more and more characters with poorly looking/poorly developed moves.

Posted by Sukiyw on January 16, 2010 at 12:02 a.m. #462

@Nalelu
Looool cut the crap man, so you are saying that better looks are more importante than gameplay variety?
Go play something else if you are that much of a graphic whore, go play naruto, you'll get your "good looking moves"

Posted by Machineking1313 on January 16, 2010 at 1:22 a.m. #463

It is funny to see some the things on this list and how they were wrong such as Cody having an ultra that requires the knife or that he has a counter move, that there will be an arcade release, or that the focus attack has changed.

While the list has not turned out to be 100% perfect, it has been 100% correct on what matters most so far, the new characters.

Posted by George on January 16, 2010 at 4:40 a.m. #464

DUDLEY IS COMIIIIING!!
DUDLY vs BALROG (BOXER) WHO'S GONNA WIN?...

Posted by sad-ssf4-only-for-consol? on January 18, 2010 at 1:09 p.m. #465

will be there any pc version of ssf4??
only for console sucks like hell... campcom PLX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAKE A PC VERSION OF IT

Posted by buy a console on January 19, 2010 at 8:45 a.m. #466

C'mon if you really love SF you won't play it on PC. PC is good for Shooters and RTS but if you want to play Action Adventure or Fighting Games, Console is the one and only way to go.

Posted by sad-ssf4-only-for-consol? on January 20, 2010 at 1:05 p.m. #467

hmm if theres no money to get a console^^
only way pc. ill hope if im lucky theres a pc version
when im unlucky not^^
50/50 %

Posted by TJHooker on January 23, 2010 at 1:55 p.m. #468

...of course it won't be console exclusive, just because they decided not release it the same time as console releases doesn't mean they won't release it AT ALL...i even gonna bet my LIFE that they will release it 5-6 month after console releases ! ...

Posted by tevron on January 25, 2010 at 4:24 p.m. #469

huh? people are saying it wont be good on pc and its meant for shooters? you could buy so many pc gamepads and the one that would be suitable for your need...and the console ones have only a few of there own designs?

Posted by awesome on January 28, 2010 at 9:54 a.m. #470

hopefully they'll balance out sagat he's way overpowered, and maybe blanka too

Posted by 1986 SF MASTER on January 29, 2010 at 5:11 p.m. #471

YANG! ELENA! MAKATO! AND I DONT CARE WHO THE 4TH PERSON IS!!! PLEEEEASE CAPCOM AND DO WE REALLY NEED A ARABIC 5TH WRESTLER? WE ALREADY GOT 4 WRESTLERS IN SF4 THERES ZANGEIF,ABLE,EL FUERTE AND edmond HONDA! AND PEOPLE BARELY USE ANY OF THOSE CHARACTERS ONLINE BESIDES ZANGIEF THIS OIL GUY IS GONNA TAKE UP A GOOD SLOT JUST LIKE C VIPER SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH Q HE WAS THE ORIGINAL MASTER OF GADGETS NOBODY ONLINE RARELY USE C VIPER JUST PLEASE MAKE A GOOD DECISION ON THESE LAST 4 CHARACTERS CAPCOM IM STILL GONNA BUY IT NO MATTER WHAT!

Posted by elFer on January 31, 2010 at 5:40 p.m. #472

i was playing sf3 and i analisis the players and i think ..................ELENA, MAKATO AND DUDLEY are in the game... capcom like variaty soo elena has only kicks atacks

Posted by terrorblade on January 31, 2010 at 9:50 p.m. #473

I HOPE ON STREET FIGHTER 5 I'm GONNA see GARUDA

Posted by Jordan on February 1, 2010 at 5:06 a.m. #474

Still waiting for Makoto... Can't wait to hear all the scrubs complain about her "cheap" karakusa. Should be fun.

Posted by CHARGE E. HONDA on February 1, 2010 at 7:05 a.m. #475

makoto is my woman and my woman only

Posted by CHARGE E. HONDA on February 1, 2010 at 7:08 a.m. #476

1986 you should really go back to 3rd strike and stop bothering the modern times talking crap .

Posted by moondoggy88 on February 5, 2010 at 6:04 p.m. #477

dudley ftw!!

Posted by ... on February 8, 2010 at 12:44 p.m. #478

i really hope Juni or Juli or not in any of the last slots....

Posted by chickenwings on February 8, 2010 at 11:16 p.m. #479

This had to be someone from capcom intentioanly leaking info to guage fan response. Theres stuff here that nobody could have know back then, like siberian blizzard or that juni/juli have a part in t hawks story(the dolls are in the new anime). Of course things change in development so all of it aint true, but imo this had to be the dev outline from day one for this game.

Posted by Him on February 9, 2010 at 3:25 p.m. #480

I wonder if this Arabian wrestler is related to Darun from SFEX...

Posted by Dudley is Coming! on February 9, 2010 at 9:56 p.m. #481

Well, it's no confirmation, but when you lose to Seth as Boxer, Seth says that he already has boxing moves more refined than those of Boxer's. I'm assuming he means Dudley, because that is the only other boxer in the Street Fighter Series. As I said before, this isn't a confirmation, but I think that Dudley will be in SSF4

Posted by E2J on February 11, 2010 at 9:43 a.m. #482

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6479...

check out the link above. it's from the SSF4 select screen. i changed the brightness /contrast & you can almost make out the shadows/faces of the hidden characters... what you think???

Posted by Kero on February 11, 2010 at 4:22 p.m. #483

@483

E2J, check this link out.

http://i46.tinypic.com/qqcxm9.png

It's pretty much guarrenteed, who's in.

Posted by Johnathan F. on February 12, 2010 at 9:14 p.m. #484

I have a theory and I will explain. I expect much flame.

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/701...

This screenshot shows the three official unreleased characters. Well, four. I do not have a theory on the one new character, might be Hakan, but he we also from that April Fool's release. My theory is on the other three.

I believe it to be at least one of, it not all of: Evil Ryu, Shin Gouki (Akuma) and Goutetsu.

Why I don't think it's the Third Strikers: Two boxers? Really? Also, 3 takes place after 4, the story canon would be very noncontinuous. It wouldn't even make sense. How young would Sakura be? And Ibuki for that matter, she's in high school in 3.

The three spaces are next to the boss characters, who are now normal characters you do not need to unlock. Much how the Shadoloo team and Dictator (Vega/M. Bison) were not playable, then were playable in Super. With the addition of a new, non-playable Boss (Akuma). Could be played with a code. Much how modernized versions of games have unlocking, rather than a code. Ryu is struggling with his Satsui (evil side) still, and it isn't beaten/overcome until the next game in the timeline (3). He even has a Metsu Hadouken that is purple. And a lot of the official anime and in-game cutscenes deal with this. This would explain Evil Ryu. Ryu and Sagat also have their score to settle, and it originally (SF1 and SFA1-3) was based around Sagat wanting to fight him AFTER he overcomes his Satsui and fight as his "true self."

With the presence of all this Messatsu/Satsui purple energy deal going on, Shin Akuma is bound to show up, he often does show up in some add-on versions of games. With the presence of him and Gouken, and the proof that the Raging Demon (ShunGokuSatsu) can be survived, Goutetsu may just resurface. Capcom brought back Gouken from the dead on command, why not Goutetsu. I mean, Goutetsu invented all this, including the Shungokusatsu.

I've also heard some talk of a Shin Gouken type deal, but I don't buy it. Although it would be very, very nice to have another alt. costume of his, where he looks the same as all the previous canon. Beads, darkish beard and hair, not as long, brown suit like Akuma's.

I've also talked to some people about the fourth chatacter, maybe it will be a tie-in bridging 4 and 3, Seth to Gill, S.I.N. to the Illuminati.

That's just my two cents. Now I know some arguments against this. Gouki already has a double-air fireball (EX). He already has another Ultra coming, maybe it's Misogi or the groundpound. Why would there be Shin? Evil Ryu's never been too much different from Ryu, I just can't see them putting him in the game, etc. etc. Goutetsu is dead. He is long dead. Capcom wouldn't be so cheesey as to resurrect TWO characters, man!

See, I've weighed all the pros and cons in my mind, and I still think that my theory holds some ground is a definite possibility.

Posted by Matt on February 14, 2010 at 3:06 a.m. #485

Sorry Jonathan, but game journalist have been receiving boxing gloves with roses... pretty much confirms Dudley.

Posted by Rumor list will fail you on February 14, 2010 at 5:24 p.m. #486

==Wrong with the list:
-They will both be available at one time, not selectable like with Third Strike's Super Arts.
-This will be an exclusive arcade release at least for a few months.
-Expect the return of the many familiar >>Supers<<, and a few new ones like Metsu Shoryuken. So I consider it half wrong
-All characters still have one Super, except Sakura
-He supposedly needs his knife to perform one of his Ultras.
-The console characters are all said to be added to the upcoming arcade release, with the possible exceptions of Seth and Gouken.
---------------------------------
Total: 6 wrong
---------------------------------
====Still Uncofirmed:
-The previously leaked characters are all said to be in the game,Dudley(1), Ibuki(2), Makoto(3) The new characters are rumored to be:
Hakan(4) - An Arabic grappler obsessed with oil.
-The commands to execute your Ultras do not overlap.
-It sounds like the characters from Third Strike are set up with their prior Super Arts(1). They had three in that game, so one will be their Super and the other two their Ultras(2, tricky thing is if one 3S character is and another isn't that means it's wrong).
-Ibuki has a run command.(it could turn out wrong even if Ibuki is in the game)
-Dudley has his Chain combos from Third Strike, plus one additional Chain combo.(Just like Ibuki's Run it might not be correct even if he's in the game)
-Cody is the only character with an Alpha Counter
-Rufus can cancel-break the last hit of his Spectacle Romance, or the launch kick of Space Opera Symphony.
-Makoto has her Tanden Renki Super from Third Strike.(*points to ibuki's run and and Dudley's chain comments)
-Dudley was searching for his car in Third Strike, in this game he's searching for a rose.(*points to last 3 rumors about third strike characters)
-there's a new gameplay system called Tadan Saving, the phrase implies a multi-hitting or multiple-level Focus Attack.
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Total=14 Unconfirmed
------------------
In total theres 44 rumors
24 are correct 54.55%
20 are wrong or unconfirmed 45.46%
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Posted by Rumor list doesnt fail on February 14, 2010 at 6:17 p.m. #487

Obviously theres a inside man in the company who told someone somewhere about that list. Things change over time due to balance issues. Btw dudley has been confirmed.

Posted by Rumor list will fail you on February 14, 2010 at 6:38 p.m. #488

in game proof of Dudley fighting would be nice full video of him using his moves

Posted by elFer on February 16, 2010 at 9:01 a.m. #489

Capcom please!! can we play with "fans made costumes" online?? please!!!

Some....
http://interateaki.blogspot.com/2010/...

Posted by el chido on February 16, 2010 at 11:44 a.m. #490

New Stages

El Fuerte: wrestling ring
Elena: africa
T.Hawk: el Zocalo in Mexico
C. Viper: outside his office or in a builting ceiling in the city night
Guile: aircraft carrier
Adon: thailand bets ring
Cody: streetss
Gouken: in the mountains
Fei Long: his mantion gym
Honda: sumo ring (you lose if you out off it =oP)
Dan: his gym (students wathing)

Posted by Master Marik on February 16, 2010 at 4:20 p.m. #491

Where the hell is Alex?!

Posted by @ 491 on February 16, 2010 at 6:30 p.m. #492

"C. Viper: outside his office or in a builting ceiling in the city night" holy shi-t shemale.

Posted by Get over yourself Rumour list will fail you pt 1 on February 16, 2010 at 7:46 p.m. #493

Wall of text incoming. But don't worry it is about setting facts straight so only read it if you like being exact and learning.

-The previously leaked characters are all said to be in the game,Dudley(1), Ibuki(2), Makoto(3) The new characters are rumored to be:
Hakan(4) - An Arabic grappler obsessed with oil.

+3 All but Hakan were confirmed today 3 more go unto the correct pile

-The commands to execute your Ultras do not overlap.

-1 This would apply to the original thought that you would have both ultras at the same time and belongs in the wrong pile

-It sounds like the characters from Third Strike are set up with their prior Super Arts(1). They had three in that game, so one will be their Super and the other two their Ultras(2, tricky thing is if one 3S character is and another isn't that means it's wrong).

+2 This was proven true today. 2 points to correct.

-Ibuki has a run command.(it could turn out wrong even if Ibuki is in the game)

? Still unknown, but sounds a little silly to me.

-Dudley has his Chain combos from Third Strike, plus one additional Chain combo.(Just like Ibuki's Run it might not be correct even if he's in the game)

? Still unknown and I notice your cynicism is really showing in these side notes instead of trying to appear like a skeptic you show your extreme emotional bias at every turn. I will start showing more of my logical bias against illogical people here.

-Cody is the only character with an Alpha Counter

? I really doubt it but still unconfirmed.

-Rufus can cancel-break the last hit of his Spectacle Romance, or the launch kick of Space Opera Symphony.

? Once again really werid and unconfirmed

-Makoto has her Tanden Renki Super from Third Strike.(*points to ibuki's run and and Dudley's chain comments)

+1 Confirmed today (points at previous comment about emotional bias in a list showing progress)

-Dudley was searching for his car in Third Strike, in this game he's searching for a rose.(*points to last 3 rumors about third strike characters)

? Unconfirmed and I wonder why I would care about a guess at the story of 1 character this hardly seems as important as anything else.

-there's a new gameplay system called Tadan Saving, the phrase implies a multi-hitting or multiple-level Focus Attack.

? Unconfirmed and I really want to know about this one more than anything else. Even though it could still be in this seems like something that would be mentioned right away or early on.

In total theres 44 rumors
24 are correct 54.55%
20 are wrong or unconfirmed 45.46%

Posted by Get over yourself Rumour list will fail you pt 2 on February 16, 2010 at 7:47 p.m. #494

(way to go on pairing wrong with unconfirmed to make wrong look bigger even if this wasn't your intention it really looks like you are grabbing for any chance to look right).
6 were wrong and 14 were unconfirmed

Dang I almost missed this from the wrong pile

-The console characters are all said to be added to the upcoming arcade release, with the possible exceptions of Seth and Gouken.

On several occasions the devs have said they are trying to do an arcade release and doing so would be pretty easy. No matter how you spin it this is unconfirmed. There could still be a SSF4 arcade release and given that it would be Super all characters would probably be there, but nobody knows yet.

I'll even let you have your battle of context and semantics about supers being used instead of ultras because that is an uphill battle when against someone who would refuse to acknowledge other wasys to read things (quick example kikosho is a familiar super but now it is an ultra this would be the return of a familiar super. Kind of like metsu shoryuken from SFA3, oops I fought back a bit more than I wanted).
-----------------------
The new results.
In total there are 44 rumors

30 are correct 68%

7 are wrong 16%

7 unconfirmed 16%

If we could just keep a list update without extreme bias maybe this would a be a little more civil. instead we have lists like rumor list will fail you (They really want it to fail almost as if they would gain something from it failing). Or my list which has a big bias too it is totally against insane claims and as a result was made just because I don't care for the rumor list will fail you.

Posted by Samir on February 16, 2010 at 11:17 p.m. #495

If you want every single Capcom character in the game, give Mugen a shot.

Posted by um... on February 17, 2010 at 5:14 a.m. #496

tadan saving is already in SF4, how could it not be in SSF4?

Tadan means multi-level. (which the SF4 saving system is) If there were to be a new saving system, they would name it in a way to show its difference from the SF4 saving system.

Posted by List on February 17, 2010 at 6:33 a.m. #497

list was 100% right at one point in time.

If capcom wants to remove features etc (change) there is nothing I can do.

Be happy i gave you the list to begin with

Posted by watver on February 17, 2010 at 8:32 a.m. #498

If theres alot of characters then we REALLY need balancing because theres too much characters!!! Imagine guile getting his ass kicked by all the characters in the roster or proboly he just sucks ,but i really want every character to be balanced so the game wont get heavily critizized

Posted by akuma on February 17, 2010 at 9:33 a.m. #499

man that sux they nurfed akuma

Posted by Dejavu on February 17, 2010 at 3:26 p.m. #500

Rumour list is truuuue!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zY1WG...

Posted by Steve on February 17, 2010 at 5:22 p.m. #501

I would really like to see urien on this game as the last boss it would be cool

Posted by Rumor list will fail you on February 18, 2010 at 7:27 p.m. #502

I didn't want to make a return but you made me

@494/495
How is there emotional bias? it's simply a yes or no rumor that is unconfirmed doesn't matter if it's silly since it's on the list and it's a rumor. If you don't care why make the message?....hmmm BECAUSE YOU DO, simple as that. The reason why I wanted it to fail(and it still did with the arcade release part) is because I don't like Dudley or Makoto(I however am a Ibuki fan and use to main her) and wanted to see Capcom do something original. While that is semi personal bias, I still just though it was untrue with SI and 3rd strike taking place in 1998 and 99 respectively and SSF4 taking atleast in 95/96(since the rumor of it taking place later in timeline is somewhat true, they said a year, and Mel was old enough to walk while in SF4 he's not even born yet). You believe you can read my emotions but you can't, there was no cynical intent in any of my post beside people like 501 who are like "The rumor list is true!" or "it's 100% true" with specifying.

@497
Tadan saving as in mutlihit absorb

Posted by Rumor list will fail you on February 18, 2010 at 7:30 p.m. #503

And even with Ibuki(who I'll probably play since she's confirmed) I didn't want her in I wanted new characters or to play another interesting character from the Capcom backlot like Geki who has never been playable in any SF

Posted by Rumor list will fail you on February 18, 2010 at 7:32 p.m. #504

I wanted to play Lee or Joe even shoot even Maki or Karin would have done

Posted by umm... on February 19, 2010 at 7:27 a.m. #505

@503, that would be parrying now wouldn't it?

Posted by CANTSAYNOTOATHROW on February 20, 2010 at 3:37 a.m. #506

FUC U GAY ASS CHEAP THROW FUKERS I HOPE RYU CHOKES ON SAGATS TIGER SHOT OR BALROG HEAD BUTTS HIS OWN NUTTS

Posted by Fan Girl : I'll Defend My Faves To Pieces on February 24, 2010 at 4:44 p.m. #507

@ 403 I care about Guy and Adon. Guy is a ninja, I spell ninja a-w-e-s-o-m-e. As for Adon, I hope he beats Sagat.

You know what I want to see? The confirmed new characters little things that no one cares about. This would be:

1. Game Over/Retry animations
2. Entry/Win Cutscenes
3. Taunts
4. Win poses
5. Time out loss poses
6. Ko poses (ex. Dan says "Father!" When Ko'ed)
7. Stuns
8. Certain sounds and facial expressions due to ultra combo moves (ex. the first punch on Dan's SFIV ultra gives opponent a funny facial expression / Akuma's SFIV ultra make the victim scream)

If my hunch is correct, Cody has the potenial to have a very pathetic looking (sad pathetic not stupid pathetic) Game over animation.

Also @471 I agree, Q is awesome. However, I like Abel and El Fuerte and I'd play em I had the game

Thirdly, Capcom should bring back Charlie, I think it would be very intresting to see how he'd be like (and what he sounds like...)

@ 435 I hope it's Fei-long Ryu and not vice versa. I'M TIRED OF RYU PICKING HIM! RYU, GO FIND THE FIGHT OR something...

Also, I think the Capcom needs to try to diverse the fighting styles more. Ya know, do some research, or make more Rufus type characters, where there fighting style is listed as "Weird Karate"

Plus, Juri makes me afraid for my fave characters. Not just because she's strong, but because she's provocative.

Posted by ed on February 28, 2010 at 11:38 p.m. #508

we want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryuwe want evil ryu

Posted by Raheem on March 1, 2010 at 12:01 a.m. #509

I would love to play Charlie again, he was great.
Evil Ryu with blazing eyes would be sweet.

Posted by Rave_Zero on March 1, 2010 at 4:55 p.m. #510

Give us a PC version and I'm sold four-times (1 copy for me and 3 for friends - new 4vs4 multiplayer mode is going to be awesome).

XBOX360 vs PC players would be too good to be true, I think Microsoft blocks this, because XBOX players have to pay for online play and PC players use different online servers which are "free".

Posted by KK on March 3, 2010 at 9:23 a.m. #511

I read the first post... a guy wants blanka improved????
COME ON!!! What else you want that freaking beast has all you can ask in a fighter, Anti-ground attacks, anti-air attacks, a pretty sweet come-back hit using the freaking electricity shock... I hate blanka's dont get me wrong I think is an awesome character.. but I hate to face those guys... i got pissed off at myself when I lose to them specially when they're more deffensive than offensive.. I hate when people just walk back and wait...
anyways...
What is your favorite plate!?

Posted by John Yuen on March 3, 2010 at 8:58 p.m. #512

I don't care about the new characters introduced in SSFIV since my all time fav is Chun-Li. I won't buy it unless they make Chun-Li more powerful in SSFIV.

Posted by Silver_srk_of Italia on March 7, 2010 at 6:58 a.m. #513

Is it true that Hakan will be revealed on March 11?

Posted by keroberus2 on March 17, 2010 at 1:35 p.m. #514

"Posted by Correcting #23 on September 24, 2009 at 4:48 p.m. #37

He's obsessed with oil like you put in your car or manufacture products with, not the kind you slather on your baby mama's onion booty.

I don't understand how so many people interpret this incorrectly."

Isn't it funny that although he was so cocksure, he was ACTUALLY wrong? =D. Yeah. It was the kind you slather on your food and people, for oil wrestling.

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