Capcom V.P., Christian Svensson, hit the Unity Boards taking time to answer some questions from the fans.Did Street Fighter 4 fail on the PC, dooming all future fighting games on that platform? — PKT
Sven: Performance that Dooms? No. Performance that assures that future fighting games will be on PC? Also No.
I had a much longer post written here that covered a host of issues, but I'm not sure the team would be comfortable with me sharing so I'm going to have to keep mum a bit longer. Let's chat about it again in a few months.
Has a release date been announced as to when Street Fighter Alpha 3 will hit the Playstation Network? — Woodlandbunny
Sven: Alpha 3 we've been holding back a bit on and haven't set a date for it. There's a number of other PS1 titles we'd like to get out first that we're waiting on Sony to finish up on. I'm HOPING to have some more PS1 news before the end of the month.
Who are your favorite Street Fighter characters? — Tryken (Ryan)
Sven: I tend to play Sagat, Ken and C. Viper in SFIV. From a character design standpoint, I love Viper's design and I think she's only going to get cooler in Super Street Fighter IV.
Considering Svensson's comment, what do you think the odds are that Capcom will release Super Street Fighter 4 on the PC 6 months or so after the console versions hit?
Leave a comment with your thoughts below.
Posted by hope on October 2, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. #1
Hope for PC stills! \o/
Posted by Gief_Mobile on October 2, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. #2
He didn't say it outright, but there's no way Capcom is going to release SSF4 on the PC. There's too many pirates out there. It just like how Gears of War 2 wasn't released on the PC.
The hackers have ruined the PC market for some PC game makers, not all, but enough. When a company takes the time to release a game on there, it's pirated to all hell and doesn't sell that well. Why WOULD you want to release a game on there?
It sucks for some fans, but unless they can kill off the pirates, which isn't going to happen, the games there are always going to fail. Too bad.
Posted by NLS on October 2, 2009 at 2:49 p.m. #3
yea theres a question i wana ask... im a 1500 bp playa an im fighting 5hit 200bp 5hitt kunts y is dat ???
Posted by DomDaDude on October 2, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. #4
To Gief_Mobile
Ive been playing the PC version for a while now the only thing that is pirated are the rankings but it doesnt really matters i never fought an hacker ever and i think its cool to see some of the hacking possible on SFIV like moveswaps and skin mod but it is useless online so no the game is not dieing because of hacks.
Posted by Soulfighter on October 2, 2009 at 2:57 p.m. #5
@gief_mobile Stop talking nonsense , gears of war 2 wasnt released on PC because it's a console game with a console gameplay , it doesnt stand a chance on the PC shooter market. By the way PC is still the number one gaming platform.
Sf4 PC sales have been more than nice, if it didnt sell more it's because of these poor online features which are cleary not PC standard. (games which are 10 years old had waaaayy better online features).
Posted by lulz on October 2, 2009 at 3:08 p.m. #6
lol @Soulfighter, you do realize that gears 1 is a console game with console gameplay... that was released on the PC don't you?
epic fool
Posted by Soulfighter on October 2, 2009 at 3:10 p.m. #7
@lulz and you do realize it failed hard on PC don't you ?
Posted by Cranky on October 2, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. #8
Why doesn't he just answer what everybody wants to know. Whether there will be a pc release or not.
Who cares about the reason behind it or whether he can talk about those, just say whether it will be released for PC or not.
Posted by ??? on October 2, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. #9
Just asking if anyone knows or have heard/read something concerning it. Exactly how big percentage wise is the PC SF4 community?
Posted by TRAPeeze on October 2, 2009 at 3:39 p.m. #10
Online experience is too variable with the pc platform (ie opponents with widely different pc configurations). That is partly why consoles tend to have an advantage in the fighting game realm.
Posted by :P on October 2, 2009 at 3:43 p.m. #11
Releasing Alpha 3 as a PSOne Classic is an epic waste of time.
Posted by yes4me on October 2, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. #12
Cross finger for PC... it would be cool to get to enjoy super SF4.
Posted by 32 on October 2, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. #13
pc version is a waste of time
Posted by Haggar on October 2, 2009 at 4:10 p.m. #14
Please, let there be a PC version !! The price will be lower, even the damn pirates will buy it.
Plus, piracy can't be the only issue, since XBOX360 games are also pirated all over the place.
Posted by Loko3dg on October 2, 2009 at 4:13 p.m. #15
WTF MAN! Yes or No.
Posted by Another look on October 2, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #16
You have to consider these people are told not to say too much or else their job is being risked. They won't step over boundaries like that. Why do companies do that? Simple, they want to build hype and not start weird rumors (this happens with sooooo many games). They didn't tell us now because A.They haven't invested enough time to give a straight answer (no rumors) or B.They are stringing you along trying to keep you anticipating (hype).
Also pirating SF4 for PC gives you no online play. That takes out quite a bit of the game don't you think? Why bother.
Posted by dh on October 2, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. #17
heres hopes for PC version
Posted by Takayanagi on October 2, 2009 at 4:52 p.m. #18
WTF.... why dont they release 3rd strike on PS3!!!?!?! with online option!
Posted by Pico on October 2, 2009 at 5:08 p.m. #19
@ :P
Agreed. Alpha 3's a major highlight in the history of 2D fighters and the Street Fighter franchise in particular, and the "best" version of it is for a handheld. It makes no sense. This game needs and deserves the same treatment that MVC2 got.
Posted by clickchikcn on October 2, 2009 at 5:26 p.m. #20
LOL ALPHA 3 is not ever comming out...
Capcom wants you to focus on the games they already released.
Sorry ps3 faggboys.
Posted by Jack on October 2, 2009 at 5:26 p.m. #21
::prays to every deity for a SSF4 PC version::
Posted by clickchickn on October 2, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. #22
I don't see why they wouldn't the game looks best on ps3 anyways
Posted by !!! on October 2, 2009 at 5:36 p.m. #23
HOMG. PLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE SSF4 ON PC!!!
Posted by Gief_Mobile on October 2, 2009 at 5:36 p.m. #24
Here's Cliffy B saying Gears of War 2 won't be a PC title because of piracy.
http://kotaku.com/5056532/why-no-gear...
You can't tell me this isn't a huge factor for companies releasing their game on this platform... period! Gears of War 2 was one of the biggest games ever! No PC release, because of pirates.
How many other games are PC gamers not getting because of pirates? Pirates are ruining the PC gaming industry. Take a look around, it's reality.
Posted by @Gief_Mobile on October 2, 2009 at 5:43 p.m. #25
Man, that Xbox360 thingie sure can't be modded/hacked and its games sure can't be copied either.
...
Okay wait a minute.
Posted by yes4me on October 2, 2009 at 5:46 p.m. #26
From what I understand, Gears of War 2 is more an offline game than an online game. SF4 is more for online than offline. I will be delighted if the PC version is made. If not, we are stuck with a balance problem and less features and less characters... and that sucks =(
Posted by pico on October 2, 2009 at 6 p.m. #27
@clickchikcn
Look... I'm sorry, this isn't going to work out... it's not you, really it's just... it's just I require a semblance of literacy from people who troll my posts these days. I'm just at that stage in my life right now, y'know? Hey, hey, don't look like that...we can still be friends...!
Hoping you understand,
Pico
Posted by meh on October 2, 2009 at 6:04 p.m. #28
SF4 is basically a multiplayer game. piracy means sh-t in this case
people who pirated SF4 to play offline to finish the singleplayer, wouldn't have bought the game in the first place since they're totally missing the point
Posted by also on October 2, 2009 at 6:08 p.m. #29
Capcom ported and will port a lot of their singleplayer games to PC which REALLY suffer from piracy, because you get the full experience and you don't miss something big as ONLINE play
multiplayer games like SF4 should be the safest games to port, because they're not fun to play alone or offline.
Posted by Predator on October 2, 2009 at 6:08 p.m. #30
Who to the hell would download Street Fighter 4 and play it the whole time in offline mode? The fun factor of Street Fighter 4 in my opinion is the online mode and I DO hope that we will get a PC release. PLEASE, please!!!
Posted by theclickin on October 2, 2009 at 6:16 p.m. #31
lol @ previous troll.. I don't care about your posts one bit. I only posted to let you guys know what is happening with Alpha 3.
Get lost. + There was no incorrect grammar in my previous posts M.D Smart Guy lol
Posted by :P on October 2, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. #32
@ clikchikcn
Alpha 3 WILL come out, but not in the form that people want it, i.e. a Dreamcast port with online play. It'll come out as a PSOne classic. A port, and a rather bad one, that was released for PSOne in '98.
Posted by Picosucks on October 2, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #33
Pico thinks because I wrote about Alpha it has to do with him....
Look at this threads title. You must need at least 10 years of college to miss that.
Posted by @ ;p on October 2, 2009 at 6:21 p.m. #34
Yes you are correct about alpha ;P
Posted by pkt-zer0 on October 2, 2009 at 6:32 p.m. #35
There's only one minor problem with the GoW2 argument, namely that CliffyB is a colossal idiot. You see, he says that anyone savvy enough to have a high-end PC is savvy enough to know how to pirate software - the implication being that the people who actually buy games are too bloody stupid to operate BitTorrent. Yeah, I'm sure that the PC gamers that let Epic get to where it is today see things that way, too.
Another thing you'll need to notice is the publisher of Gears of War: Microsoft. Delaying Halo 2 and limiting it to Vista with the explicit purpose of having the XBox version sell better, turning PC-exclusives like Alan Wake into console exclusives, and shutting down their PC game development teams - this isn't a surprising move from them at all.
I don't think that keeping the game from people is the proper approach to take against piracy, either. On the contrary, you'll have to give people a reason to buy your stuff. Cutting off support for SF4 and working on SSF4 instead, and then announcing it three months after release exclusively for consoles isn't exactly doing that.
Posted by gearsofwar2 on October 2, 2009 at 6:35 p.m. #36
Gears of War 2 wow, now we are talking about sh@t games
Posted by ca on October 2, 2009 at 6:50 p.m. #37
lol no one wants a dreamcast port of zero 3,give us the arcadeport with 16:9 finally
Posted by Understandable! on October 2, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. #38
Hacking a PC game is just too simple these days. Thank the Pirates fellas.
Posted by Dummy on October 2, 2009 at 7:05 p.m. #39
Some of you people are incredibly ignorant.
DomDaDude - He said pirating not hacking. Step your reading comprehension up.
Soulfighter - Geif Mobile is entirely correct about Gears. Gears 2 along with Halo 3 are not being ported because they are simply not worth it. They will be pirated and the costs they do recoup would be negligible.
While console games can be pirated it's not as easy as using bittorrent. They have to go through the hassle of modding there console and for a lot of people its not worth it.
"gears of war 2 wasnt released on PC because it's a console game with a console gameplay"
Lol that's awful. How can you take yourself seriously?
Gears 2 outsold pretty much every PC shooter in existence. EVER.
Even Half-Life(9 million sold) barely beat it and that's including PC, PS2 and Dreamcast sales. Not to mention it's been around on Steam and overall for 10 years.
Your stupidity is astounding.
Posted by cuttyb87 on October 2, 2009 at 7:32 p.m. #40
I hope its the dreamcst version of alpha 3 that would be awesome because of the online play and dramatic battles sweet
Posted by $EXY JURI on October 2, 2009 at 7:49 p.m. #41
man they should of ported CvS2 is much better balanced game than MvC2 where only marvel characters are any good and the street fighter characters are all just lame imo. its a very underrated game also alpha 3 they shouldn't bother with it who's gonna play that with when there is SSFIV.
Posted by gluemchen on October 2, 2009 at 7:57 p.m. #42
I think getting an illegal copy of street fighter iv for the pc is the worst thing that should not happen. Not just because of the netplay. The big problem here is. When was it the last time a "beat em'up" hit the shelves for the pc plattform? Doing this would only bring the complete demise of even playing these kind of games in the future on the pc plattform. If people would actually understand this we might see much more developers port to the pc in the future. Which would be great. :-D Oh and i really hope Super Street Fighter IV hits the Pc :-)
Posted by Look on October 2, 2009 at 8:26 p.m. #43
Pirating on the pc was kinda pointless, since you dont get online with pirated copies. The only concern is cannibalising the console sales, which didn't happen because of the delayed console release. The online pc sales would have had little overhead, they still made money on pc sales.
Posted by yes4me on October 2, 2009 at 9:06 p.m. #44
Personally, I would even pay higher than $100 for the game. I am serious. I have played around 200 times for each character in the game or roughly 5000 times. If I went to the arcade and pay a quarter for each game, that's $1250 - $50 for the game... In a way, I "saved" around $1200 so far.
The PC version of SF4 is really cool for many reasons: You can play online, and we can "make/add" our own skin. I don't need a ranking score board (knowing that some kids will hack it anyhow). All I wish is to play SSF4, check my own person stats, and let Capcom know if someone is hacking. That's all. And they already have the engine done in some way for the PC. So it is less work.
Capcom sugar please?
Posted by Hiryu02 on October 2, 2009 at 9:32 p.m. #45
I really hope they are reading threads like this one. I would hate to think that a PC version is out simply because the PC version didn't break sales records. I play on PC and am very pleased with the amount of players, so I can't help but think that the PC version sold a significant amount of copies.
Please Capcom, reconsider. There are many people here who wouldn't have had the chance to play SF4 if not for the PC version. Give us hope.
Posted by zig_zag on October 2, 2009 at 9:33 p.m. #46
anyone hook us up with sales figures of sf ic pc in its release week or something like that. thx
Posted by Madness on October 2, 2009 at 10:34 p.m. #47
Durr. I'll bet PC sales would be best of the 3 if they actually released it on time. Why wouldn't it be? It's the best game out of the 3 and unlike playstation or xbox, just about EVERYONE has one.
Sales are really no excuse not to release it on PC considering anyone that would love the PC version bought another version only because it was out so much sooner, and a good number of people STILL bought PC because of the mods.
If they don't release it on the PC i guess we had a fun few months, because i'm not going to waste money on a console that wishes it was as good as the PC.
Posted by Lolento on October 2, 2009 at 10:45 p.m. #48
I agree with many others here. I REALLY hope they took into account the fact that releasing the PC version only 5 months after the console ports (which in turn came several months after the arcade version) did no good to its sales. I own the PC version, and I regularly play with 5 friends who all own the game: 1 360 and 4 PS3s. Three of them would actually have preferred the PC version (superior graphics potential, for starters), if only they had a choice back in February.
Posted by The truth on October 2, 2009 at 11:39 p.m. #49
Well
I really hope for a release on PC
and yes if it would have been released at the same time as the console versions it would have sold better.
BUT:
The sad truth is
You can play online with a pirated copy of SF4
I have some (ex-)friends Who pirated it and played via GFWL..
Well now they arent my friends anylonger.. I really hate pirates especially when capcom trys something new-.-
Posted by StHubi on October 2, 2009 at 11:41 p.m. #50
I relaly hope for a PC version of SSF4. SF4 is the best fighting game, I ever played, and I do not have a home console :(
So please, Capcom... Even a few month after the initial console release, there still would be buyers. But to believe, that the game could be a hot seller on the PC, when the console version was out long before, is just an illusion. As said before by others, everyone, who wanted to play SF4 and owns a console, bought it LONG before the PC release.
Releasing it on all three platforms at the same time would equalize the sales on all three plattforms. But probably because the XBox360 and PS3 are much more expensive (at least on the German market), this would not be so ideal for the company. Hm... Perhaps they are just indicating, that it will not come for the PC to encourage buying the more expensive XBox360 and PS3 releases?
Posted by StHubi on October 2, 2009 at 11:43 p.m. #51
@The truth: This is really a shame. But remember that the new version of GFWL allows online authentification, if the used copy of the software is legal. I do not know the technical specifications yet, but if that works, Capcom could be encouraged to try again on the PC...
I also hate software piracy a LOT.
Posted by $ on October 2, 2009 at 11:57 p.m. #52
Wouldn't pay a dime for a PC release, since the PC version of SF4 came out less than 3 months before they announce a revision that makes the current game obsolete.
Posted by J on October 3, 2009 at 12:11 a.m. #53
#8: "Why doesn't he just answer what everybody wants to know. Whether there will be a pc release or not.
Who cares about the reason behind it or whether he can talk about those, just say whether it will be released for PC or not."
The reason he doesn't confirm or deny a PC release is that the answer is not determined yet, and he doesn't make that decision alone.
I bet you could have figured this out on your own.
Posted by Hooded on October 3, 2009 at 12:17 a.m. #54
Who the f*ck cares about the PC release
Posted by Madness on October 3, 2009 at 12:58 a.m. #55
Who cares about better graphics,stages,music,costumes, less lag, and an undivided user base? Pfft lets spend hundreds of dollars to buy a system that will be obsolete in a couple of years instead!
Whoooo when is the PS2 release?
Posted by daniel gonzalez on October 3, 2009 at 2:10 a.m. #56
#54
capcom cares...
Posted by Relentless on October 3, 2009 at 2:31 a.m. #57
quote #16
Also pirating SF4 for PC gives you no online play. That takes out quite a bit of the game don't you think? Why bother.
That's not true. Thanks to the awesome system that is Games for Windows Live which gives you the ability to use ANY code from ANY game for ANY game MULTIPLE times -_-
Posted by wc on October 3, 2009 at 3:46 a.m. #58
Not buying a console just for 1 game sorry Capcom. Hardware inevitably fails and with a PC I can fix and maintain the hardware myself by getting replacement parts. With console it's too much of a hassle with all the RRoD's and other problems.
Posted by prayers on October 3, 2009 at 6:11 a.m. #59
CAPCOM! u heard us since the beginning of SF4! Here us once more for we awaits the PC release!
Posted by Maluco on October 3, 2009 at 6:27 a.m. #60
I really hope they release it for PC. I have many friends that bought the first one and I think it´s very bad if Capcom don´t allow us to play this sequel.
Posted by @Dummy on October 3, 2009 at 6:32 a.m. #61
They never released HalfLife2 on the DC, they developed for it, but never finished it..
It will be the PS1ver. of Alpha 3, and I'm glad, 'cuz the World Tour mode in the PS1ver. is way better..
Posted by Caramujov2 on October 3, 2009 at 6:33 a.m. #62
I think it would be not smart to keep PC away from this. At this point they already know how much money they will gain because at least 80% who bought the first would buy the second as it´s cheaper and adds a correction of balance and new characters.
Posted by greyhoundbus on October 3, 2009 at 6:49 a.m. #63
I don't own a console and won't for a while. Even if I do get one it'll probably be a Wii. Please let it come to pc!
Posted by lolz0rz on October 3, 2009 at 7:10 a.m. #64
I don't really care, fighting games are more fun on the console anyway. also since the first day of pc release there are countless hackers in the ladder with 99999999999 points and names change every day but capcom can't do anything against it.
i will definately buy a ps3 when ssf4 is released.
Posted by arrr_me_heartys on October 3, 2009 at 9 a.m. #65
piracy; that old chestnut. That's developer talk for " We're greedy bastards"
Posted by imbeciles on October 3, 2009 at 9:07 a.m. #66
Don't make the mistake of releasing the PC version MONTHS after. Maybe the you'll get the sales figures you desire.
Posted by Knows a few Tourney players that are in Fullerton on October 3, 2009 at 9:08 a.m. #67
I would by the game for all systems lol
just for the fun of playing other people say for pc users we can still play offline with friends or sessions we make with other tournament players
Posted by idiots on October 3, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. #68
But we know you won't do that because you wants to twist the wallets of the of the console market. Greed>Ethics.
Posted by ImApc on October 3, 2009 at 9:46 a.m. #69
Hoping for a release of SSF4 on PC.
I wonder if the fate of an Arcade release has any bearing on whether a PC version is made. I know (or at least I think I know) that the Arcade version is it's own thing but seeing as the arcade system uses PC hardware surely that could be consideration to think about?
Some SF4 PC sales figures would be nice.
Posted by SF3: 3rd Suck on October 3, 2009 at 10:44 a.m. #70
Gamep play if fine for 3S, but the characters are so LAME. Doesnt ever look or feel like a SF game. Alpha 3 is way better than SF 3rd Suck
Posted by gwaga on October 3, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #71
yo not that Ono would be reading this i appreciate how we can change the eng/jp voice track on individual character
but we REALLY need the option to turn on all the arrange tracks during versus and what not,
Posted by yes4me on October 3, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. #72
I hope they release also on PC.
The engine is already done. "All" they need to do is add new characters. And if someone is downloading the game to play offline, it is not like Capcom is losing money: Sooner or later, that player will want to play online and will have to buy the game or go play at the arcade. Finally Capcom could take opportunity to get the fan made skins and resell them for consoles. Therefore, while Capcom may not win much out of the PC platform, it may help publicize the game in other platforms.
PS: We don't need a leader board, just personal stats. Get rid of it... less work for Capcom. People will hack it anyhow.
Posted by Darksim on October 3, 2009 at 12:02 p.m. #73
Reply to #73
Unless the supposed new gfwl system is actually put into effect, anyone with a valid activation key from ANY OTHER gfwl game can play a pirated copy of ANY OTHER gfwl game. Its a really sad system that only encourages pirating every single game that will ever be released under gfwl. Capcom needs to make sure microsoft gets their crap straight before they release SSF4 on pc, other wise the same thing will happen again.
Posted by @ #71 on October 3, 2009 at 12:45 p.m. #74
Alpha 3 is nowhere near as good as 3rd Strike. 3rd Strike is the truest SF there is. It feels, and plays perfectly. It's pace, mixup game, technique, graphics, sound and characters are all fantastic. Why do you think 3rd Strike characters were in such high demand (and still are) when fans were asked who they'd like in the game? It's still one of the most played games in arcades in Japan, even after 10 years. Stop talking out of your ass. Dudley, Makoto and Ibuki are almost guaranteed to be in SSFIV. At least two of them will be in it. It's what the fans want.
SFIV is the only SF game that doesn't feel like an SF game.
Posted by miaou on October 3, 2009 at 12:47 p.m. #75
f@ck ssf4 on pc! its better on console any day. pc beat em ups suck
Posted by yes4me on October 3, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. #76
SFA3 is much better than SF3 imo. It has more combo including air combo, and more characters and they were much better balanced than in SF3.
Posted by Forges on October 3, 2009 at 1:40 p.m. #77
@ #76 Why exactly? If you use the same gamepad, it's the same game.
Posted by Rave_Zero on October 3, 2009 at 2:22 p.m. #78
Hacked SF4 ladders on PC are there because:
1) stats/savegames are saved locally and not online.
2) GFLW doesn't generate money for Microsoft, so they don't care about fixing. On XBOX360 people have pay for GOLD accounts to play online.
________________________________________________________
Microsoft fixed the GFWL bug with version 3.0, which allowed to play online with any activation key.
Pirated copies are possible on all 3 platforms (PC/XBOX/PS3) - but only offline, so this is not a valid point in my view.
Most people buy games only once, either on PC or on consoles.
More households have a PC than XBOX/PS3 and can connect USB gamepads/sticks to it. Leaving PC scene behind by not releasing SSF4 on PC or releasing it months later is a big mistake.
Posted by sanwa man on October 3, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. #79
No one cares about pc release, why play on pc when everyones on consoles? Atleast most people on sf are anyway.
And @forges
Dont know much about pc's but I do know that although many if not everyone has a pc or laptop, they all arent good enough to play games are they?
Posted by John on October 3, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. #80
The transfer to PC is done already, they just have to add the same stuff they do for the console versions. Graphics, gamesystem and so on is there already. It would be a massive waste of money if they don't do a PC version of SSF4, which is little more but an update of an already existing game. And it doesn't have to be a six month difference again either, due to what i already said.
Seriously: Additional console content + whats there already = SSF4 for PC!
And i don't buy the "piracy" argument. PC sales for any game would have stopped years ago, if Pirates were the sole reason a game isn't developed for PC. PC games are more difficult to do, due to the many hardwere versions, that costs more money than console versions and big companies like to play it safe. But in this case, the core programm is avaiable already and can be sold again with some changes. Hell, i would buy two if it helps! The PC version was sold for only 1/3 as much as the console versions in some online shops!
I agree with what was said by many, whoever had a console already bought the game month before the PC release, and after the Resident Evil 4 desaster, no one knew what a PC version of a Capcom game would look like, there doesn't seem to be any point in waiting for a PC release.
Well, it looks fantastic with more detail and a general sharpness due to the higher resolutions and effects on PC and the mods are simply wonderful. To piss of a fanbase that spends hours to embellish their favorite characters (the Mrs Signorita Chun Lis are fantastic stuff! To name just one of the many beautiful mods.) wouldn't be a good idea. I doubt any of them would buy a console just to have a game that changed in just a few ways, but cannot be modded anymore. Capcom throws money away if they don't do a PC version, piracy or not. PC games like Operation Flashpoint or The Witcher, and whathaveyou prove for years that mods keep a PC fanbase alive and kicking.
Posted by sanwa man on October 3, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. #81
Correction:
No one cares about pc release, why play on pc when everyones on consoles? Atleast most people on sf are anyway.
And @forges
Dont know much about pc's but I do know that although many if not everyone has a pc or laptop, they all (PC'S) arent good enough to play games are they?
Posted by Correction on October 3, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. #82
A good laptop can play the game via highest graphics, although the price of the laptop is pricey ( i have a decent one) without any lag i bring it to college and play with some tourney sf4 players and a bunch of my friends
this is if we cancel sessions and etc
don't get me wrong i have other systems like ps3/360 etc
Posted by yes4me on October 3, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. #83
@82:
FIRST of all: I don't own a console. I don't plan to. I am sure I am not the only one.
SECOND: PC version will OBVIOUSLY come out AFTER all consoles... meaning 6 months later minimum (I expect ONE year after). It is not like the idea of the game coming out on PC will delay you getting it on the console.
THIRD: If you own and play SSF4 on console, how the hell does it matter if this come out on PC or not? Do you also care if it doesn't come out on other console you don't own?
FOURTH: Why should anyone listen to your worthless rubbish post if you don't plan to play on PC? It would be like me saying I don't have a console, and I hate console, and I don't want SSF4 to be on console. This is a stupid non sense argument.
I don't think anyone sane would say no to have a PC version, except if Capcom may lose money by making a PC version. But just saying that you don't want a PC version just cause PC is garbage, or the game is garbage, or noone care about PC is retarded. It is far from being a valid intellectual argument.
Posted by blahblah on October 3, 2009 at 5:15 p.m. #84
I don't own a good computer, and I play on PS3, but honestly, PC's are better (if you have the money to buy good parts..)
Posted by your mom on October 3, 2009 at 9:49 p.m. #85
They better be releasing it on PC...consoles have the edge in the fighting game market because hardly any decent FGs are ported to PC. It's called a niche, and should prove profitable.
It's easy to say consoles have the upper hand for games that aren't available for PC. PC gaming is going strong, capcom better realize.
Posted by bleah on October 3, 2009 at 11:12 p.m. #86
the PC version lasts forever.. you fagg0ts will buy the game again for PS4, PS5, Xbox720.. whatever crappy gaming console you transition to next
also on PC i don't have to worry which stick/pad i use since it's all plug & play, not like that turd-in-a-box 360 that only accepts peripherals "approved" by Microsoft.
not to mention i can play in resolutions far greater than anything consoles could offer.
Posted by ook on October 3, 2009 at 11:17 p.m. #87
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Posted by kulo on October 3, 2009 at 11:18 p.m. #88
consoles are toy-computers for kids
Posted by Juggle Systems on October 4, 2009 at 12:10 a.m. #89
Posted by yes4me on October 3, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. #77
SFA3 is much better than SF3 imo. It has more combo including air combo, and more characters and they were much better balanced than in SF3.
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Alpha 3 was the most broken, soo many characters get infinite juggles game. More broken in a way than Marvel Capcom 2 everyone cries about.
Sure maybe you just played on your own or with friends of similar skill, never knowing all that was capable with that V-Ism - thinking it sucks. But see online V-ism 40 second nonstop juggles, infinites that the video editors fast forward themselves so they won't see it for 2 minutes straight.
Those are 10 times worse than anything Yun or Oro could do.
Most balanced Street Fighter? No.
Pro players hate that game.
Posted by yes4me on October 4, 2009 at 3:36 a.m. #90
Well you have your opinion. I have mine.
It takes quite a lot of skill to pull infinites off, and infinite makes the game quite entertaining with tons of possible comebacks if you got the skills.
The parts I like the most about the engine is the guard break and the air combo: There is no happy camper in this game unlike CvS2, SF4, and to a small extend SF3. Maybe it is not the most balanced street fighter (I didn't say that), but I still believe it is well balanced... btw all characters have infinite in MvC2 to my knowledge. Finally, it is thanks to SFA3 that I heard of Daigo, and the US/Japan competition.
Now I think about it, it would be nice if we have a guard break in SSF4... make it a big guard break but the presence of a guard break would change the pace of the game.
Posted by Kyrax on October 4, 2009 at 10:14 a.m. #91
I really hope we can get a PC SSF4 .. I bought SF4 and I love it. I just don't feel like wasting money on a console AND a TV ( unless I can plug a XBox in my computer screen ) exclusively for SSF4..
Also XBox Live ..
Posted by ssf4 on October 4, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. #92
Please capcom make this work man!! You did a amazing job for the pc dont fail us on this one :(
Posted by prorook on October 4, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #93
Well, I'm going to blame microsoft on this one. The PC version is just as popular as the 360 version and way more popular than the ps3 version. The only way capcom arent making money from the PC version is because people are buying shadowrun or some shaz off ebay for $1 and using that key instead of actually paying for sf4. Ugh, even if it does come out on PC, theres no reason for it to be released so long after the console versions.
Posted by @yes4me on October 4, 2009 at 8:57 p.m. #94
The jumping jab variety infinite in Alpha 3 is no skill.
Please see youtube for them. Why compare to MvC2 ("everyone has infinite" which they don't) when the topic was you've compared from Alpha 3 to SF3 balance? You are wrong with your knowledge and don't acknowledge other people who know about Alpha 3? How about we both learn from eachother here?
V-ism style juggling takes much more skill, yes, but is very overpowered. Top tier very small group, Akuma Ryu Sakura, few others, Zangief and Cody are up there too.
Alpha 3 is not more balanced than Street Fighter 3 which has a much more balanced juggling system, pardoning a few exceptions, as mentioned Yun, and some that take exact skill timing like a Dudley or Necro (yes Necro has juggles) which balances it out since not everyone can do them every opening.
30+ characters in Alpha 3 (with soo many ports and revision versions at that) ensures way less balance than SF3 with 18, and air block is not balanced. Guard break is cool though, except again when you're stuck facing a V-ism rushdown where you can't escape. Guard break helps V-ism overpowering too in that way.
Posted by Geese on October 4, 2009 at 9:35 p.m. #95
The PS1 version of Alpha 3 may be the worst version. They should just take the PSP version(probably add anything needed like online) and make it a PSN/XBLA game.
Posted by mmm on October 5, 2009 at 7:23 a.m. #96
#89 man you just talk crap when you open your mouth,i bet you get raped thats why your talking so much bullcrap and lol pro gamers hate it?are your stupid or something?go to japan and say that agian,they play it more then your stupid street fighter 3 dirt strike
Posted by ^ on October 5, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. #97
Any major Alpha 3 tournaments anymore in Japan?
No. You don't know nothing, least of all how to spell on the internet, which actually automatically helps you with that. Who's too lazy to press spacebar inbetween your run on sentence after every comma? Why are you even using a comma then?
Any more SF3 tournaments in Japan?
Yes.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2009/au...
"Try again kid" - Sagat
Posted by phoque off on October 5, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. #98
Noone gives a damn about your petty arguments.
It's so far offtopic you might well go post on a different website. Knobs.
Posted by sfa3 on October 6, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. #99
Is there any confirmation SFA3 will have online play?
Posted by ^ on October 6, 2009 at 10:53 p.m. #100
Should be the PS1 port. Just like previous ones, no added features.
Posted by Photon on October 7, 2009 at 9:35 a.m. #101
people relax, we will get it - they just dont want to announce it yet to respect the consoles. Its not that much work to make it for PC since its very similar to SFIV. Profit is there, it will come.
Posted by Princos70 on October 10, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. #102
They realized that custom skins prevents them selling useless clothes DLC.
Posted by Hobbs on October 11, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. #103
why don't they just release the PC version as a DLC? Every time it's downloaded it's like free money to Capcom. It won't cost them anything to distribute it; they've already spent the money on marketing for the other systems, and it can't be that expensive to port the game to the PC considering they already did it with SFIV. How much could it possibly cost to port the game to PC and then distribute over impulse. Even if only a couple thousand people bought it, they'd still make a profit and make their PC fans happy. From a marketing and business perspective, I can't see why they wouldn't do it. There must be other considerations at work here.
Posted by Joe on October 14, 2009 at 9:12 a.m. #104
Anyone saying the PC version sucks is being ignorant or has an outdated computer. The best graphics, less lag, less input delay, quick matchfinding (request mode anyway)...all better than the PS3 version at least. Not to mention the awesome modding community.
The main reason the sales were modest was...HELLO...it was released SIX MONTHS after the console versions. Anyone with a console bought it already, and a few hardcore people had to buy a console just for this one game. The rest bought it for the PC. If the release was closer to the console's, you'd see much better sales.
Not releasing SSF4 for the PC just makes the current version a virtual dead end. A lot of people won't be buying consoles just for the next iteration, so Capcom will be losing potential sales there (as well as a ton of goodwill in the PC community). Pirating is an overused, lame excuse, especially when it comes to secure online games like SF4. The ratio of pirates in this game is probably super low (and the ones who do pirate probably never had any intention of buying it anyway since they don't care about online competition).
Posted by Yakazuchi on October 27, 2009 at 12:16 p.m. #105
I belive they create SSF4 on PC if not i *****.
T_T
Posted by a man... not a child ! on November 13, 2009 at 5:53 p.m. #106
I think the biggest difference between Console
and PC users... must be the Age & Mental gaps.
I saw what the average 360 & PS3 user looked like on Youtube
the other day, it actually looked worse than i had imagined.
An over-weight, spoilt, dull minded 10 year old having
a hissy fit due to loosing whilst playing on xbox live.
I don't want to play with kids... I'm a man, ffs !
"Consoles, are toy-computers made for children".
Posted by nik on November 27, 2009 at 7:13 p.m. #107
"He didn't say it outright, but there's no way Capcom is going to release SSF4 on the PC. There's too many pirates out there. It just like how Gears of War 2 wasn't released on the PC.
The hackers have ruined the PC market for some PC game makers, not all, but enough. When a company takes the time to release a game on there, it's pirated to all hell and doesn't sell that well. Why WOULD you want to release a game on there?
It sucks for some fans, but unless they can kill off the pirates, which isn't going to happen, the games there are always going to fail. Too bad."
What you say is totally stupid. First, consoles are also easily cheatable nowadays. and XBOX is THE hackable console, still they will release it on XBox.
Second, the hacked PC version of SF4 like all hacked versions, CANNOT be played online which removes the first aim of versus fighting wich is: playing against other players. I'm sure that proportionaly, SF4 is one of the less hacked games because of that.
Basically all games destined to be played on the internet are UNTOUCHED by illegal downloads and cracks. Is W.O.W going to close because of pirates? Its the most played game ever, and only for PC ;)
Third: After doing PS3/XBOX version i can't see any reason not to port on PC, it would cost something like nothing for them. I'm sure SF4 pc was a success because all the work was done yet they just needed to port and then free money.
If they didn't sell as much as they wanted PC, maybe that's because they delayed it 6 freaking months and so everybody had bought an console version yet plus no cross plateforme PC/XBOX fghting, thus pc version no point buying.
I think wwhat he says MAY be a commercial maneuver: Saying PC version is unsure will make people more easily pre-order and buy the more expensive (price is twice) console version
or forget the idea of getting the PC version for the thousands of free skins made by players.
Posted by nik on November 27, 2009 at 7:49 p.m. #108
Posted by Hooded on October 3, 2009 at 12:17 a.m. #54
"Who the f*ck cares about the PC release"
Just everyone in this topic you dumbass
"And @forges
Dont know much about pc's"
Then why you talk?
"they all (PC'S) arent good enough to play games are they?"
You are the stupidest guy ever. And even if what you say was true, this isn't a problem for the game to be sold.
Also as someone stated coming to insult another plateform and put hater is the most non-sense and childlish thing ever. Just get a life dude.
Posted by another man.. not another child who agrees on November 28, 2009 at 4:01 a.m. #109
Even with the online community and all of its mods, I'd have to say, I'd buy it. I would rather they make it an expansion pack... but hey, I'd buy it. As long as they give us the DLC on disk (like before), I'd buy it. Hands down.
As for PS3 and XBox users... meh. Good luck. Most of them lag horribly. I am actually using the network mod for PC rather than connecting through Live. I think that says something... but is Capcom listening?
The PC community is here for SF4, even if it goes Super'Tard on us... we can afford it. Just like our monster machines. ;-)
Now to finish installing the nude skin mods... *blush*
Posted by B on December 24, 2009 at 2:25 a.m. #110
PC FTW!
Posted by sf4fan on December 29, 2009 at 5:15 a.m. #111
To 109
What mod?
3DM's LAN-play Enabler?
Posted by Drakendodertje on December 30, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. #112
Hmmmm, i sure hope this gets released on PC ...
i'm no expert in the branche, but a release seems to have two great things going for them:
*SSFIV seems like an upgrade on an existing engine, so although i wouldn't want to downplay the amount of work involved, it sure seems less costly to me and in effect greatly reducing the risk
*I can imagine piracy is a much bigger problem for developers in PC gaming than on other consoles, but i always tend to frown a bit when i read interviews where it is more or less portrayed that 1 pirated download equals 1 missed sale. Intuitively i'd expect more of a 15:1 ratio, wich of course still is a lot considering 1.8m downloads. I think there is some compensation for people playing a pirated copy and eventually the buying the game who wouldn't have otherwise. I don't know how much though.
Anyway, basing on some articles and as someone who dowloads pirated games as well (yes yes i am evil but hold your guns, not SF4 if only to support the beat-em-upmarket), the key-issue for the potential buyers seems to be the multiplayer aspect that is lacking in pirated copies (mostly). Street Fighter has such a great advantage in this respect as it embodies the ultimate multiplayer wet-dream for lots of players: 1 on 1 against anyone in the world in a straight up duel that challenges both mind and skill. As a developer you can't get much of a better sellingpoint than that in the industry. For your targetaudience that should be enough to sway most with proper marketing.
Posted by Nik on January 5, 2010 at 9:06 a.m. #113
SF4 has been the 5th most downloaded game on PC 2010 and THE SECOND most downloaded game on XBOX!
the f**king second after MW2!!
And they are still releasing it on Xbox!
So stop with the PC pirated bullsh1t
Posted by Nik on January 5, 2010 at 9:08 a.m. #114
When i said downloaded in last post i meant downloaded illeagally:pirated.
Posted by yeahtyedo on January 21, 2010 at 2:49 a.m. #115
The problem's quite simple.Street fighter IV will just become a ghost city when SSf4's released.
Already there's not many ppl playing SF4 PC.After the release of SSF4 ..Don't expect to see anyone.
Anyway they can go to hell . They never fixed the exploit,hacker,Trainer and ranking problem .. Capcom sucks.
