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Character strength comparison for Street Fighter 4
In an effort to compare how strong the fighters are, there's a new character strength chart for Street Fighter 4.
Here's a grab from the page to give a little background on what this is — and isn't.
Because it's difficult to create an apples to apples comparison for how strong each of the fighter's Special/EX Moves are when compared with the rest of the cast — these attacks were NOT factored in. When Specials/EX moves were in the charts, the numbers for projectile throwers and other low damage attacks skewed the results quite a bit.
Instead universal moves that all characters have like Hard attacks, Supers, Ultras, Throws and Focus Attacks were used to tabulate the data.
So while this will give you a general idea of how strong each of the characters are, it doesn't factor in things like recovery time, speed and the overall efficiency of a move. Some attacks may have really high damage, but are very difficult to land in an actual match.
Even if a character's overall strength rating here is low, it doesn't necessarily mean their damage capabilities are. Things like combos and how easy it is to connect with your attacks also play a very key role.
If you notice any errors or problems with the list, please send me a heads up via the contact form.
Posted by Gief_Mobile on November 2, 2009 at 5:11 p.m. #1
Well this is interesting. I think everyone knew Gief was the stongest character by far in this game, but it's good to know how much stronger he is than everyone else.
You can see from these charts his moves by far outdamage the rest of the people, which is how it should be. At the same time, should Sagat be that far above everyone?
The guy has massive amounts of tools at his disposal, and making his moves take off so much damage on top of his moves kicking ass is just dumb. This proves this guys needs a big time nerf!
Posted by sanwa man on November 2, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. #2
sagat should be only one loosing strenth in ssfiv, everyone esle is fine I think, strength-wise..
Posted by SteadiestScrub on November 2, 2009 at 5:53 p.m. #3
I honestly don't see the point of this list at all...
...It's just so...redundant.
Posted by Cooksta on November 2, 2009 at 6:04 p.m. #4
"I honestly don't see the point of this list at all...
...It's just so...redundant."
Well yet another chart people can use to analyse character strengths and weaknesses. It is definetly worth a big thumbs up to the Author for the time and effort put in :)
It is just another iteration of information that we already know though, so yes, it is kind of redundant.
Posted by blahblah on November 2, 2009 at 6:07 p.m. #5
Woah... Cammy is pretty high up there... She is a mini-wrecking ball, huh?
Posted by ninjastar on November 2, 2009 at 6:15 p.m. #6
Seth needs to be buffed and akuma needs to be brought down a bit.
Sagat and Zangief obviously need to be lowered a bit also.
Posted by J on November 2, 2009 at 6:38 p.m. #7
Ninjastar is so wrong it hurts.
Posted by Steinmania on November 2, 2009 at 6:41 p.m. #8
I agree with J 100%
Seth's mixups are a pain, I'm glad he has to land 20 hit combos to be a real threat.
I'm surprised Cammy is so high on the list. I'd figure Chun would be "the strongest woman in the world".
Posted by scott on November 2, 2009 at 7:41 p.m. #9
Interesting and has some important things to tell us,
But not indicative of anything really as far as how characters perform or anything.
Posted by EMP_Sabin on November 2, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. #10
I agree with Ninjastar 100%
J and Steinmania are obviously Sagat scrubs that get butthurt when they lose to Seth players.
Posted by Soul Bro Ryu on November 2, 2009 at 8:50 p.m. #11
Forget the Dow Jones. Sagat's stock just went up.
Posted by J on November 2, 2009 at 9:03 p.m. #12
I was actually commentating on Akuma and Gief being brought down.
They both need no nerfs at all.
Seth is borderline broken as it is. Sagat well.. yeah he of course needs some fixing.
Posted by J on November 2, 2009 at 9:07 p.m. #13
Also, what made you choose to attribute Sagat to us rather then the other two?
Posted by what?! on November 2, 2009 at 11:33 p.m. #14
the list makes no sense at all :S ryu third weakest? I dont think so :s
Posted by @What?! on November 3, 2009 at 12:56 a.m. #15
People hate on Ryu because he has no weakness, Thats about it Ryu just have some of the best zoning in the game. People just lose to him a lot because they get impatient. Everyone loves offense but never like defense. But people knew his ultra was weak from day one compared to everyone else, thats why is so easy to land.
Posted by Dafro1989 on November 3, 2009 at 1:21 a.m. #16
No real surprises to me there - even Cammy being strong wasn't that much of a shock.
Like the author said, this doesn't factor in arguably more important elements like recovery, ability to combo, ability to even hit the damn thing.
Fun read all the same, if only because it indicates a need for a very slight Sagat nerf. Great moves, crazy recovery AND super strength? Even just a 3-5% strength nerf would arguably even it up.
Also, I'm completely against a Seth boost. He's already a combination of great moves (command throw, stretchy limbs, quick no charge fireball, high damage DP, teleportation), he doesn't need more. He's still very able in a fight, and definitely holds his own, why mess it up?
Posted by CAPS LOCK RAGE on November 3, 2009 at 1:34 a.m. #17
THIS IS JUST A MEASUREMENT OF POTENTIAL OUTPUT. THIS DOES NOT COMMENT ON THE OVERALL "ABILITY" OF A CHARACTER.
Posted by In Gief We Trust on November 3, 2009 at 1:41 a.m. #18
Switched from my usual Boxer to play Gief online recently--why do people say he's such a great (online) character? Yeah, if people decided to (1) jump into lariat for some reason or (2) throw a close fireball while I have meter, I was golden. But most people just poked and zoned the hell out of me, and Gief is so damned slow.
Posted by ... on November 3, 2009 at 4:25 a.m. #19
This is very interesting but as it states, it says nothing about the effectiveness of the moves.
I switch between E Honda, Ken, Chun Li and Ryu. However Ryu is the most effective character for me simply due to the options avilable. This is despite him being one of the lowest in average attack strength as the chart shows.
Posted by Megatonbeef on November 3, 2009 at 7:22 a.m. #20
Now i know who would win the arm wrestling compititions.
Posted by @Megatonbeef on November 3, 2009 at 7:44 a.m. #21
Well in that case, Sakura and Cammy to both win against Balrog/Boxer in an arm wrestling match!!
(He apparently punches like a girl according this chart)
Posted by #18 on November 3, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. #22
Gief is terrible online. To master Gief, you have to interrupt pokes with a SPD. This works, to a lesser degree with Honda. Not so much with Able has he lacks the range and has a relatively huge startup time.
The problem is that Gief is too lag dependant. You need perfect timing to SPD a poke. The trick is to grab the arm or leg as it is in the recovery frames, which also increases your grab range. For example, Honda can literally Ochio Throw the lariat on a local/arcade game. It's too laggy to do online.
The reason people think Gief is good online because most people online are stupid. They get caught by the larait trap or come close into Gief because they are a flowchart Ken and trying to DP Gief into submission.
Posted by Madness on November 3, 2009 at 4:38 p.m. #23
Ryu's average damage is nowhere near that low, it's just they coincidentally picked moves where the damage was low. You'd have to be a complete idiot to think rose outdamages him, please make this list useful
Posted by @23 on November 4, 2009 at 11:18 p.m. #24
You're doing it wrong.
Posted by Steinmania on November 16, 2009 at 6:51 a.m. #25
Hmm, just read Sabin's comment. I'm a pretty scrubby Sagat. Good thing I don't use him...
I disagree with everything NinjaStar said with the exception of the Sagat nerfs. I do think his damage output is high considering what he has. ComboJak just showed me an 800+ damage combo with Sagat.
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