6:56 p.m.
SF4 Championship Edition all but officially confirmed
FallenAngel on the SRK.com boards has translated a recent post from the Japanese Street Fighter 4 development blog, where they again heavily talk about an update to Street Fighter 4.
Here's the run down.
* More hints by Capcom of a Street Fighter 4 sequel, they even refer to it as SF 4 Dash, which is the Japanese name from Championship Edition.
* Shiowaza says she realizes Karin is very popular but she would like Ibuki to be added. Cody is also mentioned as a possibility.
* Someone says that the arcade version seems faster than the console release. Shiowaza answers that they both run at the same speed.
* Bonus stages (smashing the car, etc.) will probably be added in the next iteration.
* Capcom says that in Trial Mode they wanted to add a function where it would demonstrate how the combo should be done. They will add that next time.
* There are no plans for stage background music DLC right now.
* PC version automatically determines language by reading Windows language preferences. If you have Windows in English, SF4 will be installed in English. The game supports English, Japanese, French, German, Spanish, Italian and Korean.
* Talk about people double dipping (already bought console version, thinking about buying PC version). Capcom obviously says go for it, the extra touch brushes look great and the leaderboards are different, so you get a new start.
* A PC with all the recommended specs for SF4 will be released, at least in Japan.
* Capcom is paying attention to all the suggestions/requests posted in the blog and the internet in general.
*One question about the, "great merchandise available overseas," (It's assumed these are the Tournament Edition / Standard Edition Mad Catz sticks) Shiowaza says that Japan will have their own goods soon.
* Arcade version: Your Battle Points (BP) decrease over time if you don't play often. After a month goes by without you playing vs. fights, BP is deducted every week.
* There is no way to do blind character picks in the PC version. Shiowaza says consoles don't have this either. Championship mode has this right?
* "Compared to today's fighting games, SF4 is pretty easy to get into, but some things are still very difficult for beginners". Capcom says that it's hard to maintain a balance there.
Considering this is the third time the Japanese Development staff has heavily talked about an update to the game, you can pretty much take this as confirmation that there will be an upgrade to Street Fighter 4 released in the future.
Rumor has it that the game will be officially revealed to players at this year's Super Battle Opera (Tougeki), which takes place from August 14 - 16.
Posted by Muffin Man on June 19, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. #1
I really want to see how the storyline will go considering there's a high chance Ibuki (a Street Fighter III character) will be in the sequel. While we're on the topic of characters I would rather have Adon and Yun & Yang come back than either Ibuki or Cody. In fact, there's a lot of Street Fighter III characters I'd rather have like Oro, Q, and Dudley, but Ibuki's still cool.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19, 2009 at 1:51 p.m. #2
who likes karin ? they should add the two missing sf2 ce char and 2 sf3 char.Urien and makoto would be awesome
Posted by I want to Fxxx Karin on June 19, 2009 at 1:57 p.m. #3
They have to release more infos soon to let the sf-hype alive. and i want NEW characters! no comic-style, more hero guys like kyo or terry bogard from kof, maybe 0815 for some people but i like it! maybe rufus is effective but his design isnt good imo for example
Posted by stubbs on June 19, 2009 at 1:58 p.m. #4
I'll be happy if there's at least 4 new characters.
6+ would be awesome, as long as they balance them correctly. Hopefully the new characters won't be as bad as most of the console characters.
Posted by Jordan on June 19, 2009 at 2:38 p.m. #5
NICE. im down for ibuki. she was always one of the cooler character designs that came out of 3S. im pretty much ok with anybody from the 3S roster makin it into the game. lets get some dudley and alex along with ibuki
Posted by Jerseyfame on June 19, 2009 at 2:38 p.m. #6
Noone cares about Karin or Ibuki....give us Dudley!!!!
Posted by Jerseyfame on June 19, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. #7
Also....
Are you kidding me....Cody is horrible!!!!
Posted by Elipsis on June 19, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. #8
For the love of christ I hope they put local replay save in.
Posted by Jordan on June 19, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #9
considering the japanese fetish with underage schoolgirls... i think we can see why she says karin is popular. we may not care for her cuz stuff like that is against the law here... yet we still got sakura in the game T_T
Posted by Graham on June 19, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #10
"Cody is mentioned as a possibility."
HELL
****ING
YES
Oh man, my days of playing Alpha 3 will now come in handy.
Posted by B.A.L. on June 19, 2009 at 3 p.m. #11
Oh My F*cking God
THE RETURN OF THE BONUS STAGES!
How I loved to smash those cars and brick walls.
Posted by Jeremy on June 19, 2009 at 3:11 p.m. #12
I would love to see Dudley, but any other 3S character would be nice.
As for a Final Fight character, I would love to see Mike Haggar, he's never made an appearance in any SF as a playable character and he's in every Final Fight game! I suppose nobody wants to see another Zangief-type character.
Posted by truth on June 19, 2009 at 3:20 p.m. #13
SF3 was the reason for the 10 year drought, it didn't feel like a SF game....so why add characters from it?
Posted by Cody is top tier on June 19, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. #14
In Alpha 3. See V-Ism tournament videos.
But that jailbird outfit needs to go. Guess there's going to be a lot of Final Fight characters.
After they were asked by JP players last time about Rolento and his cane weapon. Now someone asks for Cody. We're at the whim of random players from Japan (whom use that blog site) asking for new characters. Since that Dudley winning the poll on Capcom Unity didn't mean jack.
Posted by honda on June 19, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. #15
It'd be cool to see the added characters in the arcade as well to see professionals play as them. I mean, it'd be cool to see console characters like cammy and fei-long be used by professionals despite how bad those characters are.
Posted by -anto. on June 19, 2009 at 3:27 p.m. #16
Pls don't have 'Evil' versions of characters take the spot of characters to be added in the selection screen.
If Evil Ryu were to make an appearance, why not make Ryu be able to turn 'evil' by using his Ultra?
* Selectable Supers ( and Ultras ) a la 'SF3' would be great
too.
Posted by BiiKiller on June 19, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. #17
Evil Ryu is the man! Also gimme some air block or at least air recovery to negate some of those redonkulous juggles!
Posted by yang man on June 19, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. #18
new attacks would be cool too. There has to be a new voice for the announcer. A cooler one from the first sf2.
Posted by Rave_Zero on June 19, 2009 at 3:53 p.m. #19
Ibuki and Makoto are fine for me, coz they have a unique fighting style.... just stay away from the akward looking characters which don't fit into Street Fighter (like: Twelve, Necro, Gill etc.).
The last thing SFIV needs, are another "style-clones" of existing characters (especially dragon-punchers / fireballers)... there are already too many of them. You can throw out Dan and add Dudley ;-) LOL :-P
Having different Ultras is a nice idea, which will definitely bring some variety to the fights.
I hope that the PC version will have an option to change the language after installation (english/japanese) and also includes blind select in championship mode.
Posted by ultracombo on June 19, 2009 at 4:01 p.m. #20
OMG Cody FTW he the best sf character
Posted by sleepyedgar on June 19, 2009 at 4:02 p.m. #21
remake some old stages like Akuma's 3S, or Claw's ST2
Posted by TreasureDen on June 19, 2009 at 4:19 p.m. #22
Is this going to be done via DLC?
Posted by Boing! on June 19, 2009 at 4:21 p.m. #23
Capcom can you please add all the KOF, MK, Killer Instinct, VF, Tekken, Darkstalkers (insert more fighters here) and all of the SF cast because people will complain if you forget to add one character.
Oh and if you can make a character out of the Street Fighter announcer I would be the happiest person in the whole wide world.
Thank you Capcom
Posted by Ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. #24
They need to add at least 10 - 15 more characters to the roster and go ahead and make this a kick ass game worth buying. How can you guys say you would be okay if they added only a few more characters. I want a total of 30 - 35 characters in the game. Balance should be secondary to fun, bring back all the characters that aren't already in sf4. I don't even know them all. But what I do know is it would be beyond badass to have that much variety in sf4. I love the game already, but i would be truly dissapointed with only a few more characters. The car bonus stages are a must! Its like they release sf4 the beta and now we are telling them how to make this game rock. All Capcom needs to do is listen. And anyways if they want everything so perfectly balanced, maybe they should remove all characters other than Ryu, wow that would be fun.
Posted by Ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. #25
Also Capcom needs to add the character rival commentary but have unique ones for every character vs. character, and in special situations like for instance when someone shoryuken > FADC > Ultra with Ryu, he could say some extra badass thing instead of just the plain metso haduken. Or perhaps the commentary would be life based and when one character gets low on life the other automatically starts talking trash. They should change the lobby system to allow more people to watch matches if they want. And allow poeple to record more than just championship mode matches! like 15 per person or something. Definitly add more stages. some tropical stages. maybe a stage on a mountain top. a stage on the roof of a skyscraper. a stage in a snow storm where the characters slowly collect snow on them if they stay still and projectiles melt through the falling snow.
Posted by Shinroken on June 19, 2009 at 4:57 p.m. #26
I really hope they make the update DLC. Even if you have to buy it, I really don't wanna buy another 60 dollar game.
Posted by Shinroken on June 19, 2009 at 5:02 p.m. #27
@ Ganamoy - Yeah, I'd much rather balance. You know what kills fun? Unbalanced characters. Cause when it's just a bunch of your friend dicking around, having fun, it's cool. But when you're going against people who are only looking for a win, no matter what, they have no problem abusing the unbalanced stuff. You can never have perfect balance in a game, but they did a pretty good job at balancing the roster of characters(with the exception of Seth) So that's why what your saying is kind of an oxymoron. I mean, dude, a lot of what you say is stupid. The suggestion for more stages, and bigger lobbies is the only thing I can get on board with you with. But if you'd much rather more characters over balance, then you're a bit slow in the head.
Posted by Ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 5:08 p.m. #28
. Also they need to add more taunts and BETTER taunts. what is the point of making 10 personal actions if a few are just doubles with different audio! that is lame. they need to have at least 10 DIFFERENT taunts and they need to be badass and relate more to the characters personalities it makes a huge difference, also the animation for entering a taunt is choppy and not as beautiful and natural as the rest of the game. This should be fixed. They should come up with a way for the ps3 to sense what controller is being used and this should be displayed under the player name. For instance JJcoolBeans88 - TE Street Fighter IV Arcade Stick
or Jrock34 - Sixaxis / Dualshock 3 or ganamoy - Hori Real Arcade Pro 3, and all they need to do is make a custom title option and so people can put Custom stick or Akuma Demon Blade or whatever they want really. This would help people express their personality to each other when playing online because most people even those that have mic's don't say anything at all really during a match. They should give all existing characters an overhaul, they should not worry about gimping characters to try to balance things. Give every character the tools they need to win, and the best player will win, or some random idiot may win, but it will definitely be more fun with more moves. And I don't just mean some stupid new animations to moves or something even though those little touches are very much appreciated. I mean moves that will make an impact and help characters be more fun to play and have a better chance at winning against Ryu and Ken . I know it is very possible to beat Ryu and ken but what I'm saying is all the characters should be badass and strong in their own way, not some strong and some literally unable to attack you at all if your holding db. Also they should bring back the parry but have it cost an ex bar, if you try to parry an ultra or super with multiple hits you have to parry each hit successfully and this is the only instance in which you can parry multiple hits in succession, this would be badass and create huge moments and awesome comebacks. If you attempt to parry a multi hit special attack you nullify the hit parried but take the rest of the damage like usual. The parry animation needs to look flawless and flow with the fight and momentum of the movement. A heavy breathing animation should be added to characters when they are at low health, and maybe even a different overall stance animation that looks beat down. And yes I am aware of Focus Attacks! Parry won't replace them, Focus attacks move you forward, parry should work like gouken's where they knock the other away if successful but you can't combo off of it. So if you parry the ultra you need to successfully parry each hit and at the end the other player would get knocked away possible with damage of some % of the attack parried. If you parry like a hit then mess up you should just eat the rest of the ultra.
Posted by Jerseyfame on June 19, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. #29
Street Fighter 4 isnt balanced off the principle oalone of Guile being low tier...thats stupid. His attributes and history in the game should make him tougher, less easier to stun...a better stamina and of course more strength....
He was translated into Street Fighter 4 if you ask me...he is the perfect fighting game character but sadly got dumbed down in this game. If you are technical and patient you can wield him, even play him aggressively, but that still doesnt count for how weak he is and how succeptable he is to something that almost every one in the game can play against....projectiles and crossups...
fix Guile in the new game...get respect back from his playing community. make the shotos earn their victories.
Posted by Ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 5:22 p.m. #30
what? In a way it is a paradox to say a balanced game is fun.
Would basketball be more fun to watch if all the teams had equal talent. Would there be unexpected comebacks and things like that?
And contests would be fun to judge if all the entries looked more the same?
What are you talking about man? I agree their should be no exploitable moves or characters that are horribly bad. What I am saying Sir is that I want a SF game that is not afraid too have 40 characters because even if all the characters are just copies if they at least have unique looking moves and attributes and styles it will be awesome. Oh yeah, and chess would be more fun if all the pieces were the same. Oh wait thats checkers. Oh wait thats like a game evolution. Oh wait thats what Im talking about not Idea stagnation and preservation and feeling good thinking "other people" are "slow in the head." Street Fighter already is Street Fighter it doesn't need to "try" to be Street Fighter. wtf.
Posted by Ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. #31
Oh yeah, and it would be really fun if all the players in the NBA were just like Le'bron and he was not one of a kind at all.
Posted by Madness on June 19, 2009 at 5:36 p.m. #32
Buff weaker characters, period. Rose's reflect needs to be reliable and she should have an overhead, el fuerte needs to rely on more than infinites or loops to win, Guile needs reliable anti-air back, vega needs less weaknesses period, etc etc etc
Everyone having a second ultra would be really nice. I'm sure capcom realizes where they went wrong with balance, so lets hope they do what needs to be done
Ps: bring back Gill...lolz
Posted by TOM on June 19, 2009 at 5:41 p.m. #33
it would be really retarded if they add karin and cody over any of the following Dudley, Alex, Yun, Hugo, Rolento, Ibuki,
Posted by KARIN? on June 19, 2009 at 5:43 p.m. #34
and who the hell likes karin? WHY NO LOVE FOR SF3 Characters does Dudley have to win a poll again to be ignored again by CRAPCOM to just add characters THEY like?
Posted by ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 5:47 p.m. #35
stop dirty talking me
Posted by Shinroken on June 19, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. #36
@ Ganamoy - Balance as in a character not being over powered. Each character has their own special quality, but it's possible for any character to beat another with the exception of match ups like Seth VS Gief. Either way, when I say balance it's to avoid having character with Le'Bron James calibur skill going up against a grade school kid playing Basketball. When I say balance it's to keep everyone generally balanced, not 100 percent the same, but balanced to the point where everyone has a good chance. Not a game where there are 3 or 4 high tier characters that everyone uses and 26 that almost no one uses once the game gets older. Like, Third Strike was super fun, but once it got older and all the tricks were figured out, it became Yun, Chun fests sprinkled with Ken, Dudley, and Matoko. Yeah, you'd occasionally see some other characters, but 99 percent of the time, it's those 4-5 characters out of 18. So you tell me, is it fun having a game limited to 4-5 characters cause of the balance? And I'm starting to think you're either a troll or a complete retard.
Posted by Ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. #37
You said what I said.
So you agree with me then that their should be like 40 fairly balanced characters that rock because everybody likes cake but what's better than cake? more cake.
We did not escape evolution or become evolved we are evolving. things are evolving, ideas are evolving. I would gladly take the opinion of a retarded person above yours.
Posted by Shinroken on June 19, 2009 at 6:04 p.m. #38
You're the one who said Fun over Balance, which is why I thought you were stupid to begin with. That's the thing I challenged you on. I'm all for a big roster of balanced characters, but that's not exactly the easiest thing to do. I mean, the rest of your suggestions aren't bad, they're just kinda minor, or things that don't change the game play in any way. I'm all for minor, cool things, but we have to be realistic.
Posted by SFIV fan on June 19, 2009 at 6:11 p.m. #39
take the joke chars out Dan ,ELfu, Blanka i'd much rather have chars that have a real chance at winning .Compared to Shoto clan and Zangief all the chars are jokes, bring Alpha 3 together with 3s to make Ultamate Street Fighter
Posted by Ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 6:14 p.m. #40
Also you made the analogy of a grade school kid playing against lebron? what is that and how does that apply to SFIV in any way? Sagat VS Dan isn't even an analogy for that. But Daigo with Dan VS me with Sagat IS that, but that's because of experience and talent, not because of the characters. What I am saying is, you people say that you hate unbalanced games where a few characters dominate, yet that is how it is now. And I say that I want more characters with more moves that are badass and can hold there own and you still "think" you disagree with me. When it gets to the competitive level where players can hold their own, a few characters stand out. Some are just downright unusable. ??? All I'm saying is add back all the existing SF characters up to this date from every game. If some are too powerful, hey guess what, i am pretty sure they can tone them down they are not immortal beings living on discs that can't be altered they aren't even designed in 3d yet for all we know. would it not be awesome to have a SF game that is as complete a game as something can get. I mean don't SF games only come out every few years should this one not be as intense and extensive as possible? why do we need to wait to get what we can already imagine?
Posted by Vargr on June 19, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. #41
The next iteration of SFIV better have Dudley and Alex.
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #42
Ibuki please.
Dudley please.
Urien in a suit please. M I RITE?
Get Chun li to smarten up and act her age.
Give Sagat 10% more Ultra damage and an air throw.
Posted by sakurafice on June 19, 2009 at 6:25 p.m. #43
@ Jordan
actually...sakura is older than cammy in sf4 XD
not that she looks like it but whatever
Posted by Shinroken on June 19, 2009 at 6:25 p.m. #44
But Capcom likes to follow storylines, and cannons, despite how messed up and crappy they might be. Though adding every character up until now into SF4 would be nice, a lot would be under powered, or over powered. Though it's true that they can be toned down, that's more work then just flipping a switch and making them stronger or weaker. They have to make sure they don't make them too weak, or too strong, or be able to abuse something on specfic characters. Such as Fei Longs infinite combo on Seth and Abel. Though that one wasn't really bad since it was hard to get down and only worked on two characters, it's stuff that has to be taken into account. And when you have ever character from the SF universe crammed into one game, balancing it becomes an even bigger problem. So that's why I say it would be cool, and fun at first. But to anyone who is competitive at the game, tournament caliber or not, it will eventually boil down to a select few characters that rule the rest, which isn't fun for anyone. So it effectively cuts down all that variety you had into crap. I mean, don't get me wrong, you can still pick any character you want, but you know as well as I do if you're going against someone of similar skill, them using a good character over you bad character they're most likely gonna win most games. Just like in Super Turbo when I use my Bison. I know he's a really good character, but when I got against anyone with a tick throw, or command grab, once I get caught in those loops, unless I have a super, I have no chance. That's crap I want avoided in SF4.
Posted by Franamoy on June 19, 2009 at 6:30 p.m. #45
Making fightings games is what Capcom does. If they cannot even make their own characters work in their own game then what the hell is it that they do? Did some crazy alien make SF and then leave and now all we have is people back engineering SF trying to not have it go off and destroy earth?
Posted by Rave_Zero on June 19, 2009 at 6:34 p.m. #46
@Ganamoy
quantity doesn't always mean quality!!!
SFIV has 25 characters (console version) and EVEN NOW the majority of players play only a fraction of the same character set (mostly Sagat/Ken/Ryu/Boxer). Adding more characters won't change this situation dramatically, especially if they all use the same fighting style.
Capcom needs to take a look at the existing characters and fix their remaining, undesired weaknesses/exploits first - before adding new characters.
For example: some characters are lucky when their moves connect or have miserable anti-air counters, while other characters simply steam-roll everything just with 2-3 moves and even gain a "vacuum-effect" to connect moves without problems).
To come back to your own example, would it be fun to see the same basketball team playing/winning over and over, with the same boring combo scheme again and again ?!?!
I think you can figure out the right answer, in case you want to play SFIV for many months or maybe years.
If just want more different visuals/outfits, then Capcom should add a character customization into SFIV , similar to Tekken 6 (hair/cloth/skin style+color).
Posted by ganamoy on June 19, 2009 at 6:34 p.m. #47
WOW i love the post above having Chun Li have an aura of intelligence and experience rather than stupid girly whatever it is now. Her comedy could be from the perspective of a intelligent confident experienced woman rather than what it is now. I mean is she a interpol person or what? a dancer? lol
Posted by ARJ08 on June 19, 2009 at 6:49 p.m. #48
What worries me is that they didn't even mention any update or maybe nerfing or beefing any characters. I don't want them to mention any names but I hope they adjust some characters seriously.
Posted by richard on June 19, 2009 at 6:49 p.m. #49
I bet the leaderboard is much easier to rank up in pc than on console.
Posted by Flanamoy on June 19, 2009 at 6:53 p.m. #50
1.Give Ken a jacket with a pretty detailed dragon on the back. Dragon punch right.
Also fix his hair it needs to look more like 3s. Ken deserves to look cool. He's kind of mullety. haha
2. Chun li in the oufit from that SF movie where she fights vega after the shower. Yesss! I mean come on they put sakura with no pants so why would that be wierd? lol
3. Give C.viper a heel clicking sound to her foot steps sometimes that make sense seeing as she is wearing high heeled shoes.
4. Morrigan from Dark Stalkers. Duh.
5. Felicia from Dark Stalkers. She could be a charge character like Blanka. Duh.
6. Duh
7.
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 6:58 p.m. #51
Holy crap ganamoy, I didn't think ANY of you foos would agree with me or even bother to comment.
Ya Chun's a space case in this game. Need's fixy.
OH and I REALLY am compelled to once again mention URIEN IN A SUIT. Like gee whiz I'm not a professional game designer or nuffin but URIEN IN A SUIT certainly sounds like a masterpiece of a fighting game character.
CRUSH
KILL
WAHHAHAHAHA!
Posted by Muffin Man on June 19, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. #52
Thank you ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing you're last point gave me a great laugh.
Posted by 47drift on June 19, 2009 at 7:17 p.m. #53
Gotta love the generalization made by folks in these comments that "no one likes Karin."
...
*mained Karin in SFA3*
Posted by baz on June 19, 2009 at 7:18 p.m. #54
I know this is probably gonna piss people off for me saying this but bring in 2 players vs 1 from alpha3!
Posted by Lamu on June 19, 2009 at 7:35 p.m. #55
Hey I love Karin!! You have any idea how many of us wanted her in SFIV?? These kids even started one of those online petitions to amuse themselves with. Anywho, Sakura mentions Karin in one of her victory quotes. So I believe she will make her debut sooner or later. This latest piece of news gives us fans hope.
Posted by derek on June 19, 2009 at 7:47 p.m. #56
its always some weirdo weeaboo kid who plays nothing but anime girls in these fighting games who is obsessed with school girls, hentai, and lolies that want karin in the first place..... theres tons more interesting characters than karin...thats for damn sure in both SFA and 3, hell add some Rival School chars(Batsu, Kyosuke) over her lame ass.
Posted by T on June 19, 2009 at 7:50 p.m. #57
God i hope it becomes DLC, not a whole other game release
Posted by Dudley on June 19, 2009 at 7:59 p.m. #58
Dudley.
That is all.
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. #59
derek dude, have you ever used Karin? She's foockin awesome.
I don't main her but she has a slick moveset. Nuts to all that stale poo you wrote. I'm none of that which you described, yet see her as a solid addition and enjoy playing her.
Still, there are others I would much rather see in a new SF4, such as URIEN IN A SUIT.
URIEN IN A SUIT.
CRUSH
KILL
WAHHAHAHA!
*engulfed in pillar of flame*
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 8:05 p.m. #60
URIEN IN A SUIT
Posted by URIEN IN A SUIT on June 19, 2009 at 8:06 p.m. #61
URIEN IN A SUIT
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 8:07 p.m. #62
Ok sorry I'm done. Just sharing my incredibly sensible idea with the good people of teh internetz. Thank you and good day.
Posted by WHY on June 19, 2009 at 8:10 p.m. #63
Why a new game when this one was released not that long ago.. I don't feel like paying for this again, Capcom should just add the new content to original game (even if not for free) and stop this fa**otry.
Posted by pitufo on June 19, 2009 at 8:12 p.m. #64
ibuki \o/
I love this (weak T_T) chara so much
ibuki - ibuki
Posted by Jonny Modlin on June 19, 2009 at 8:13 p.m. #65
We hope that Street Fighter IV Dash will be a downloadable upgrade and a downloadable update? Will Street Fighter IV Dash be a retail version on a retail disc or will they be able to upgrade the street fighter iv disc to street fighter iv dash as a downloadable upgrade?
jonny
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 8:16 p.m. #66
WHY, Capcom takes care of it's fans($$$$$$$$$), and after scanning teh internetz they have discovered that an overwhelming number of SF4 players would like to see various changes made to the game(adding URIEN IN A SUIT for instance).
If they are willing to make these changes, why the hell wouldn't they be entitled to make us pay for them in the form of a new game? A lotta salaries to pay.
Posted by Ibuki on June 19, 2009 at 8:17 p.m. #67
Ibuki
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 8:19 p.m. #68
Poster #64 URIEN IN A SUIT was not me btw. Just a kindred spirit who sees the clear, crisp brilliance that is URIEN IN A SUIT.
That was pretty clever. And he was FAST too. Nice one bro.
Posted by derek on June 19, 2009 at 8:22 p.m. #69
ECSK ok like i said theres a million different better characters than karin and even you said it.... you rather seee Urien in a suit than karin...
That just proves my point, I WOULD definitely prefer Urien in a thong/suit whatever than Karin. Sure when there's filler, add karin idc. But you honestly believe that there's no more than ATLEAST 6 other characters that arent prefered over by the MAJORITY of the community..
It just really irks me that they mention karin/cody being a "possibility" when Dudley isnt even suggested.... its like developer fan favorites here who are making the list... they are saying "F YOU" to the fans and doing what they want.. Its probably why Sagats such a GOD tier and isn't changed.
console characters were pre-selected by probably by ono or the staff whatveer before the poll started.... the poll was probably a fixed poll.....correction was DEFINTELY fixed since it was fact DUDLEY who won the poll in high numbers i might add....
ya no one plays Fei Long, Dan.. sum pick rose and sakura online and somehow they made it over DUDLEY ROFL. and i don't mind these characters so much cept DAN his novelty was funny at first but quickly wore off... You get to thinking ehs just a really weak shoto that could of been DUDLEY or URIEN or YUN
Does CAPCOM really give a fuhhh? or this SHIOWAZAt just saying crap out her ass.. im sure some people are asking for karin and cody... but MORE THAN DUDLEY, YUN, IBUKI which i see everywhere? god she just trying to piss people off with this "POSSIBILITY" crap
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 8:31 p.m. #70
Karin coo.
If URIEN IN A SUIT, Dudley, Ibuki and Rolento get in I'll be delighted and amazed. Anyone else to me is just a bonus. I dunno who else people want in cuz I'm not them, but I hope they get in too.
Hell they should double the roster. HEAR HEAR!!
Posted by Expooosif Sypher Sum errr guy Kid on June 19, 2009 at 8:33 p.m. #71
HEAR HEAR!!
*nods vigorously in agreement*
Posted by 47drift on June 19, 2009 at 8:33 p.m. #72
Hey there, fella above me with the love for caps lock and such.
Here's a detailed analysis of why he ain't fit for SFIV:
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/cha...
Posted by Digital on June 19, 2009 at 8:34 p.m. #73
My vote goes for Makoto and Urien... no one cares about Ibuki or Cody.
Posted by HIm on June 19, 2009 at 8:35 p.m. #74
I wonder how the game will look visually. FORGET NEW CHARACTERS. Its obvious new characters are going to come. visuals and other stuff ftw!!!
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 8:36 p.m. #75
Hmmm....
That's a good argument 47drift, but it supports Dudley's inclusion over his exculsion....and I don't think I should really have to explain why.
BALROG VS DUDLEY
Posted by haha! on June 19, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. #76
Yes! Ibuki! Now we can have a Ninja vs. Ninja battle (Vega vs. Ibuki)
And Cody! Now... uh... well... maybe Capcom could add someone else other than Cody... maybe make another new character? idk
Posted by 47drift on June 19, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. #77
Hell, I'd wanna see the two of 'em in Fight Night Round 4.
Gufawwww.
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 19, 2009 at 8:41 p.m. #78
YO Digital!!!
I am actually representing 4 peeps right now and we all want Ibuki in the game, so I guess you're completely wrong, huh?
Still, we totally agree. Makoto and Urien are awesome are deserve to be in. As long as Urien gets to keep his suit for one of the costumes so that we can know the joy of pwning fools with URIEN IN A SUIT.
OH and smarten up Chun li, and act your age. kk I'm out.
PEACE
Posted by Digital on June 19, 2009 at 8:42 p.m. #79
Urien in a Suit
Makoto in some sexy ass hotpants with some karate gear on looking like some american gladiators
Oro
I gotta dissagree with people wanting Dudley simply because it would be too much of a copy of Mike Bison.
Posted by Dudley`s Dignity on June 19, 2009 at 8:52 p.m. #80
Digital you`ve never used Dudley I guess. He`s nothing like Mike Bison. The matches between the two would be epic.
Posted by Min on June 19, 2009 at 8:52 p.m. #81
Create a character! lol
Posted by Christian Vega on June 19, 2009 at 8:57 p.m. #82
Before its all said and done there will three maybe four versions of street fighter 4. Capcom will probably add T.Hawk, Dee Jay and Charlie for sure. And I'm guessing from the cut scenes Adon and maybe some fighters from SF3. I just hope they remove that crappy short cut for all of the uppercut motions. It sucks that all of these shoto players can pull off uppercuts without entering the F,DF motion. Come on Capcom make everyone have to actaully learn how to play the game the right way.
Posted by Dudley on June 19, 2009 at 9:04 p.m. #83
I wouldn't mind a release of Street Fighter IV where every character was replaced with Dudley.
Posted by @47drift on June 19, 2009 at 9:17 p.m. #84
your argument fails dumbass, yah no dudley because of balrog? a boxer who plays different? hmm i guess they can add like 6 different shotokans bunch of which play similar with some various tweeks.... but its not okay to add another boxer with a different playing style? wow some people are just too dumb
Posted by log-log mastR on June 19, 2009 at 10:23 p.m. #85
SHOOUUUSH!
Posted by SF-FAN on June 19, 2009 at 10:42 p.m. #86
sf iv is wack.... ya i said it. Sirlin's HDR and SF3S ftw. I dont like these clay fighter looks and their stupid facial expressions.
Posted by Spin on June 19, 2009 at 10:52 p.m. #87
Will there be a record match option for the PC version of sf4?
Posted by go away on June 19, 2009 at 10:58 p.m. #88
..Turd Strike kids
Posted by JTYMEUSA on June 19, 2009 at 11:12 p.m. #89
Why are you dumbasses bitching about adding old characters? Add some new faces to the mix, this isn't MKT.
Posted by moe5000 on June 19, 2009 at 11:25 p.m. #90
why ibuki makoto add makoto
Posted by spengali74 on June 19, 2009 at 11:25 p.m. #91
all i really want is arcade lobbies.
Posted by JpW on June 19, 2009 at 11:59 p.m. #92
I think the game needs a better Cel Shading effect!
It looks less and less 'hand drawn' the more i play!
Posted by Dantastic on June 20, 2009 at 12:21 a.m. #93
I don't care what they do to the new edition, as long as Dan is in it and untouched from the current version. All you Dan haters are just jealous of the real God tier character in this game.
Posted by bla on June 20, 2009 at 12:48 a.m. #94
I would love it if Guy, Makoto, and Ibuki were in this game...My life would be complete.
Posted by bla on June 20, 2009 at 12:57 a.m. #95
@ #87....he wasn't saying that there wasn't going to be Dudley because of Balrog(boxer)...he was saying that there won't be Urien because Balrog's play style is similar to Urien...(I think that's what he was saying)NOTHING to do with Dudley
And in post #80 47Drift said it himself that he's like to see the two boxers square off...
Posted by Fix Bad Charcters First on June 20, 2009 at 1:26 a.m. #96
Everyone was talking about this in the DeeJay/ T.Hawk thread as well. I rather have Guile not suck than have new characters. Everyone who actually knows about the technicalities of fighting games is in agreement.
Seems like every scrub or person who uses a better character complains about the people complaining that the lower tiered characters in the game need buffs. More characters does not equal more fun. Geez...Blazblue only has 12. That's still fun right?
Posted by Fix Bad Charcters First on June 20, 2009 at 1:28 a.m. #97
Plus, if you end up having a ton of characters and only a few of them are good, it will be MvC2 all over again.
Guile only has 4 moves and 3 out of the 4 are pretty much useless. *sigh*
Posted by JD on June 20, 2009 at 2:36 a.m. #98
Alright for everyone whos saying add this guy from KOF and this guy from every other company, They can't do that unless Capcom goes to the company and gets permission. Thats going to cost them money and I don't think they would want to spent a lot more for a game that is already really good and has a good roster although some characters are quite unnecessary (Dan, Sakura, the likes).
Posted by godosme20bux on June 20, 2009 at 3:25 a.m. #99
give balrog a tatsu kick, and have him shoot fireballs out of his toes... or a post nutra-system diet rufus, all skinny and sh1t...
Posted by stubbs on June 20, 2009 at 3:30 a.m. #100
URIEN IN A SUIT
(URIEN IN A SUIT)
Posted by 47drift on June 20, 2009 at 3:33 a.m. #101
You're all silly.
SFIVCE needs Terry Bogard. ARE YOU OKAY?
Posted by Amelio on June 20, 2009 at 4:01 a.m. #102
KARIN IS AWESOME.
List of characters I want to see back:
1. Karin
2. Urien (probably won't happen since there is no place for him in the story line)
That's it.
Posted by Bong! on June 20, 2009 at 4:07 a.m. #103
Needs more Jiggle Physics™, and Evil variants. Especially Dictator.
Posted by Dudlike on June 20, 2009 at 4:30 a.m. #104
DUDley. I have hardly played sf3 but his name alone. DUDley def. a champ!
Posted by kanped on June 20, 2009 at 5:08 a.m. #105
If anyone asked me to pick one character to be in a new SF4, it would be Ibuki. If they asked me to pick two it would be Ibuki and Cody. This is awesome, if it turns out that way.
Posted by F Dragon on June 20, 2009 at 5:15 a.m. #106
God all the people going about "who likes Karin?" are morons.
Who wants her? people who want a character with an awesome moveset and pretty cool design. Se was one of my mains in Zero 3, pissed off that Gouken stole her counters, take HIM out I say and replace him with her :P
However I also REALLY want Guy in too, suprised not many people are mentioning him. We need some Final Fight love!
Posted by please on June 20, 2009 at 6:26 a.m. #107
2 characters and balance would make me happy. sagat is to strong.
Posted by Dudley doesn't have on June 20, 2009 at 7:17 a.m. #108
Gigaton Punch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBHxXu...
Or a cousin in the OG SF2 intros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTGEvd...
& doesn't hate Zangief like ol Mike "Bison" Balrog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uIBRA...
Posted by SFIV fan on June 20, 2009 at 7:45 a.m. #109
i say again leave the joke chars out this time(they're dumb) to the guy Dantastic you whether have Dan or Cody than a more cooler looking new ones like CViper or Ibuki. I want new chars that show of skills and artwork (than these joke chars that are never used) and if the next street fighter has these joke chars i'm not excited about the new one
Posted by Smexy Millz on June 20, 2009 at 8:02 a.m. #110
how about a guard crush meter for turtling fags and different ultra choces
Posted by Nijohc on June 20, 2009 at 8:08 a.m. #111
I hope for the PC iteration they release it as an upgrade/addon disc for less than a full game.
As for new characters I'd like to see Guy along with all the obligatory tweaks to the current cast. Any other chars are just gravy... throw Shin Gouki in for the laugh :D
Posted by derek on June 20, 2009 at 8:19 a.m. #112
im not saying KARIN sucks hard but im SAYING there's like 8 other characters that would definitely be outpicked by the majority...
I don't care if some weaaboo/perv loving only picks the cute asian schoolgirls in fighting games players wants Karin because he wants to be unique in the small margin of players who would pick her to the rest of the cast or just thinks anime girls are teh hawt.... and i understand theres a following of you fans...but to say karin is "VERY POPULAR" is an over statement.
She will be like Fei Long and Dan in CE... those guys are like 1 to every 100 players.
I can bet the nubs who see Ibuki, Dudley, Hugo, Alex, Rolento will be like wow what cool characters and they could suck major ass... but they will garner a cooler response from nubs and pros. anything to widen the gap of Ken/Ryu/Sagat spamming players.
And theres some Hardcore Tournament Hugos out in the Japanese 3rd Strike scene... I'd like to see him juggle Zangeif with a wall bounce clothesline combo thats for damn sure.
Posted by Tommy Vandersant on June 20, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. #113
hmm i like the fad where people think Dan is awesome... yet they suck with him and or rarely play him and clearly think it to be to the cool when they spam taunt...
in the end Dan is just a joke shoto. who could of been Ibuki or someone who plays differently and good :(
Posted by This isn't a place to ask Capcom for patches on June 20, 2009 at 8:51 a.m. #114
"I rather have Guile not suck than have new characters. Everyone who actually knows about the technicalities of fighting games is in agreement.
Seems like every scrub or person who uses a better character complains about the people complaining that the lower tiered characters in the game need buffs. More characters does not equal more fun. Geez...Blazblue only has 12. That's still fun right?"
"Plus, if you end up having a ton of characters and only a few of them are good, it will be MvC2 all over again.
Guile only has 4 moves and 3 out of the 4 are pretty much useless. *sigh*"
I can feel my skull caving in just being the same species as the person who posted this. BlazBlue is one of the more broken games released in a while. Arakune and Carl can start combos and keep going until they win. So at least do a little research before you go nuts.
Speaking of research lets take a look at where Guile is in the tier list (which does not determine if you win). Oh my, he is in the middle. He is in the middle of the list to one of the most balanced games released (look this stuff up. Reading can make you smarter).
Ok lets take a look and see if anyone is good with him. Oh dear, a team using him and E.Honda are going to super battle opera and they have done some great things already.
Also nice non argument saying anybody who thinks Guile is fine doesn't use him/is a scrub. Making outrageous uninformed out bursts based solely on opinion doesn't sound scrubby to you I guess.
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 20, 2009 at 9:27 a.m. #115
derek's still trying to jam his opinion down everyone's throat. Dude people love Karin, even people who don't think she's attractive in any fkkn way.
Anyway, more importantly, URIEN IN A SUIT that's right URIEN IN A SUIT.
Oh and Ibuki.
And for cryin out loud CHUN LI SMARTEN UP and ACT YER DAMN AGE. Once again.
Posted by blahblah on June 20, 2009 at 10:11 a.m. #116
Just toss in Makoto, Dudley, Elena, Gill and Urien. Add 5 other original characters. Balance the game coughsagatcough. Add bunos stages. New[free] costumes. Lobbies. Save replays. And, hell, even another collectors edition, id be all over it like R kelly's pee on 14 year old girls.
Posted by Blazblue is not broken... on June 20, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #117
Hey, uh...#57. I know this isn't an Aksys website or anything; but, are you out of your mind? Blazlue blue is far from broken. I dare you to go to the dustloop forums and try to say that! They would chew you up and spit you out with your ridiculous statements. And the people who make Guilty Gear are especially good at attempting to balance their games!
Oh, and Carl has 1 "semi-infinite" and is STILL the worst character in that game. You're a bad kid.
Posted by Oh, yeah... on June 20, 2009 at 10:39 a.m. #118
And Guile is bad. You're probably on of the kids I referenced earlier. lol. Ask anyone who actually plays guile, look at the frame data, watch videos. Guile gets raped 90% of the time. There's a reason he's towards the bottom.
Bad start up, bad recovery (minus LP sonic boom), bad super, bad ultra. When Guile starts winning tournaments, then you can talk.
Posted by howtoread on June 20, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. #119
I don't mind more SF characters, but please none from 3, they have a wealth of others to choose from.
Posted by ultracombo on June 20, 2009 at 11:30 a.m. #120
I won plenty of time with guile.
Posted by bla on June 20, 2009 at 11:49 a.m. #121
Like I said...Guy, Ibuki, Makoto would be alright too...bring in some more "serious" characters...I'm looking at you Cammy and even Rose and maybe Sakura.
Posted by Madness on June 20, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. #122
Or just buff the characters already in the game....
Posted by Joeone on June 20, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. #123
Sounds great Im just hoping they will add more chargers and more grapplers there are waaaaay to many shotos in sf4 atm imo. Would love to see deejay t.hawk birdie and urien
Posted by ...what? on June 20, 2009 at 1:37 p.m. #124
"Arakune and Carl can start combos and keep going until they win."
There are no 100% infinite combos in blazblue... Douche to the max. -_-
Posted by moe5000 on June 20, 2009 at 1:52 p.m. #125
im all for Urien in SF4 just give him pants
Posted by ExplosiveCyberSamuraiKing on June 20, 2009 at 2:09 p.m. #126
URIEN IN A SUIT
Posted by Christian Vega on June 20, 2009 at 2:12 p.m. #127
For everyone who hates on Guile stop it. Tier charts are what they are but if you find your own style with a character you can compete with anybody. I have 1285 wins with guile compared to 484 loses, I would say thats not bad. But when SF4 dash is released I'm sure they will speed Guiles flash kick up and will go SF2CE and give him a two hit firce flash kick as well.
Posted by The Biggest Wooopooo on June 20, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. #128
URIEN WITH SOME MEAT
Posted by pioneere99 on June 20, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #129
Dee Jay and T.Hawk probably will be in considering they've at least done some of the prelim wireframe stuff. Those two at least are definitely ahead of the curve in terms of development.
Posted by aesthetiks on June 20, 2009 at 3:08 p.m. #130
where the hell are the lobbys at?!?!
Posted by enygma12000 on June 20, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. #131
Leave Cody Alone. I for one want him in the game. I played him all the time in zero 3 and would love to have him in SF4 Dash. As for Ibuki... Doesn't Viper kinda remind anyone of Ibuki playstyle wise? I would think Urien would get be a better choice if they were going to add a 3S character to the roster. I would vote for him in a suit as well. Or Yun and Yang. I would love to have them in SF4. Or how about they make Haggar from FINAL FIGHT a character. That could be interesting... But...
CODY IN SF4! THIS HAS TO HAPPEN!
Posted by Maan on June 20, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. #132
Yes , please, fix this game and make it playable, new and good testing for the best balance.
Posted by Ibuki-o-gee-san! on June 20, 2009 at 5:34 p.m. #133
To me releasing a new game doesn't seem like a very good idea for Capcom. It would appear to the public and to critics as if they were trying to milk their loyal fans. It's much more likely that this will be premium downloadable content, that you will have to install regardless of whether you buy it or not. this will stop issues from some people having the new stages, players, etc
Then when you buy the update (you know you will) it will end up being the 200kb unlock codes were seeing more and more in games.
I think that 4-6 new characters would be good. I was always partial to Ibuki.
One thing that i pray they bring back is the matchup specific character animations. Who remembers the lighting that struck after E.Ryu and Akuma tried to r.demon each other in their opening? More of that please!
Posted by moe5000 on June 20, 2009 at 5:55 p.m. #134
am i the only one who wants skullmania in the game
Posted by Dudley on June 20, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #135
Don't you ever mention Skullomania ever again. Ever. Never ever.
Posted by @ #137 on June 20, 2009 at 6:30 p.m. #136
Yes...yes you are.
Posted by @capcom on June 20, 2009 at 7 p.m. #137
URIEN IN A SUIT
+
NAKED IBUKI
+
PINK DUDLEY
Posted by Gurley on June 20, 2009 at 7:06 p.m. #138
what I think is that capcom should hold a character design contest....of course i think everyone would send a pile of URIEN IN A SUIT >_>
Posted by MrShowBoat on June 20, 2009 at 7:25 p.m. #139
Capcom should just add every character in the game, so they dont have to release another beta version after the proposed next one.... it will be so worth your money!
Posted by Smexy Millz on June 20, 2009 at 7:26 p.m. #140
urien in a suit.. and some ex series characters please!!!
Posted by wow on June 20, 2009 at 7:31 p.m. #141
i cannot believe this idiot said skullmania
Posted by fightclubnearu on June 20, 2009 at 7:38 p.m. #142
I would love a parry system with the cost of one ex bar per parry.
That being said Dudley is a motion character and would provide diversity against a charge based boxer especially compared to the shoto fest(Gouken,Akuma,Ryu,Ken,Dan) who all inputs are similar and play similar.
I would Dee JAY,Dudley,Makoto,Ibuki,Rolento and the Great Muta.SF needs a japanese wrestler.Ultra Combo = Shinning Wizard
Give Vega his testacles back or give him one of Zangiefs and Bison a faster teleport,reliable antiair, some more damage or if not atleast a gun and make sure he can combo into it from the ground.
Can Zangief not have ten feet of range on his spd or two feet smaller he looks like a russian godzilla taking an eigth of the screen.
That being said buff Sagat because wining with two combos and a fireball is not easy enough even when performing the inputs with my pinkies. Whatever you do do not add Remy or Alpha 1 Adon because they are Sagat killers and the whole world would explode if Sagat wasnt top because it is the last sign of the apocalypse.You've done it before making a great Sagat better(sf2,sf2t) I am sure you will do it again.
Posted by h on June 20, 2009 at 7:49 p.m. #143
this game is just gonna be even more cheesier with rolento,t.hawk, and the existing characters and more characters smh cant wait to play online
Posted by Dantastic on June 20, 2009 at 7:52 p.m. #144
Dantastic here. Just wanted to let you know Dan is a serious character. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their asses whooped. By Dan.
Posted by no seth kthx on June 20, 2009 at 8:41 p.m. #145
Anyone for this?
"REMOVE SETH!"
Posted by bla on June 20, 2009 at 9:51 p.m. #146
Seth is ok...if Capcom would remove him at least don't put Gill in his place...he's biggest broken mofo alive.
Posted by URIEN IN A SUIT on June 20, 2009 at 10:53 p.m. #147
Lobbies.
Posted by World Tour mode on June 21, 2009 at 12:13 a.m. #148
World Tour Mode. World Tour mode even though Urien in a suit is fine, but prob. = costs $2 in microbux. $1.5 bux if you buy later and buy another combined pack.
And yeah World Tour Mode. Not Alpha 3 version which was good, but VF4 Evo style going to different "arcades" fighting the AI of the best Japan players. If not also many international players, and these North America guys.
So that random dummy on youtube can finally say he (can, has) beat Diago or Justin Wong omfg, and post the video. Then the next youtube dood says, yeah you beat the AI not in real life in a tourney. Level up, man up, get out your mom's basement FTW.
And hey get those Mike Ross/Gootecks/Mago/Iyo players etc. immortalized in Video Game form.
Yoshi Ono - Get a Nike contract and - Just do it!
Posted by moe5000 on June 21, 2009 at 12:23 a.m. #149
damn people took the skullmania comment to heart i was just messin around, do u really think i was serious
Posted by Moe5000 on June 21, 2009 at 12:27 a.m. #150
they shoukd add makoto, yang(i think he would fit better in SF4 than yun) Urien(wearin pants) dudley(love to see balrog vs Dudley)Rolanto and Ibuki
Posted by Rlydoe on June 21, 2009 at 12:34 a.m. #151
Skullomania, karin, and cody in a dress
Posted by Moe5000 on June 21, 2009 at 12:52 a.m. #152
they should make dan a broken character(im jokin before someone gets angry)
Posted by lol on June 21, 2009 at 4:46 a.m. #153
Lol wiggers/wannabe thugs want Dudley so they can pretend to be black. Having 2 boxers is hella redundant.
Posted by @lol on June 21, 2009 at 6:36 a.m. #154
@ #156
Yeah, add more shotos already \m/
Posted by Shin Blanka on June 21, 2009 at 7:04 a.m. #155
SF3 bombed and sent the franchise into a coma for 10 years, they arent bringing it back as you can tell by all the political answers they ALWAYS give. The generic sf3 cast probably wont make it in another street fighter, maybe in 50-60 years. SF4 is the new engine, less complicated and the cash cow. Most people who complain about sf3 superior teching and all cant even play very well. Japanese players are so much better at it, why even bring it up??
Posted by vegafan on June 21, 2009 at 10:14 a.m. #156
plz make vega (claw) not suck and i will purchase day 1
Posted by Chun lover on June 21, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. #157
Make chun stronger. Give her the rising kick back she needs anti air. Whoooooo kikoken!!!
Posted by al2k on June 21, 2009 at 11:30 a.m. #158
Cody would be great! bring in DJ and T hawk, Guy, Alex and Ibuki, make the super more acessiable and fix the priorty on some move, like the dp and the flash kick, speculation on online matches, and orginal music
Posted by URIEN IN A SUIT on June 21, 2009 at 12:35 p.m. #159
Poster #160, Chun is fine as she is, but she needs to stop acting like she's 13.
Poster #156 is a complete idiot. Dudley is the bomb, fool
Poster #158, SF3 haters commonly use this argument, yet SF3 is loved by masses of peeps. Just because you suck at it and hate the cast doesn`t mean your silly ass opinions are worth beans.
Posted by Madness on June 21, 2009 at 2:25 p.m. #160
It's not really a coincidence.....
You make a game called streetfighter that is really nothing like the streetfighter people loved, and suddenly alot of people don't even play anymore.
Then in the "sequel" many years later, they bring back everything people previously loved as if the last game was never even made.
Now, why would they do that...
If balrog is tyson the dudley is holyfield...whatever if really want to see that matchup in game
Posted by KazDa973 on June 21, 2009 at 5:25 p.m. #161
Glad to have ibuki she is my 2nd in 3s and i missed her mucho. but i also want some character fixes roses... sakura... gulie... vega.. the list gones on those are just the majors
Posted by #156 on June 21, 2009 at 6:07 p.m. #162
What? Dudley responds to your whole comment with one of his phrases:
"Gutter trash."
Dudley plays nothing like Mike Balrog Bison.
"You have no dignity."
Plus Dudley isn't even black, plus British and not stereotype thug like a Birdie, shows what you know.
Posted by Madness on June 21, 2009 at 7:31 p.m. #163
Amen 164, can't wait for fixes.
Sakura there's barely anything wrong aside from damage taken and dealt from what i can see. Maybe make her fireball more competitive
156, honestly i didn't have any taste for the game at all, but i don't know what he's supposed to be if not black, and he really does remind me of holyfield.
If they want to put him in the game, whatever
Posted by URIEN IN A SUIT on June 21, 2009 at 8:11 p.m. #164
I think that Dudley is Arab English. Lookit his profile!
Posted by Umm on June 22, 2009 at 10:04 p.m. #165
I want brand new characters...
Posted by ShinKiHauYuu on June 22, 2009 at 10:27 p.m. #166
I'm done with Street Fighter 4 unless Poison, Karin, Elena, Makoto, any of Bison's dolls or a new female that's actually cool are added in this way too early and unnecessary update.
they should have made the game right in the first place.
Posted by SF Fanboy on June 23, 2009 at 12:47 a.m. #167
Bring back Karin, put Elena in.
Dudley would be cool, but Karin and Elena first. We need more females. Plus, Elena is a unique character design with a unique fighting style. Karin is cool, even if she is a mixup of a lot of other styles (rekkas, shoryus, counters).
Posted by SF4.5 on June 23, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. #168
Adding bigger lobbies, Yun, Ibuki, Mokoto, Dudley, Urien, Alex & 4 NEW characters.. Adding an option to play a character with the option of charge inputs or shoto inputs.. I think that would bridge a huge gap for people to use more characters that are unused right now, because they are not comfortable with the inputs.
Posted by kk on June 23, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. #169
how about they improve the game b4 adding more crap. For instance lobbies, why does two older games like hdr & mvc2 have them but not a brand new game like sf4. How about fixing the ps3 version. Add blind picking for all modes except champion mode. How about we save our own replays instead stupid ass top 5000. Finally fix da damn theme song, its so gay, what happened to the sounds frm sf2.
Then you add more people, like dudley makoto and yun. But of course capcom will fcck us over since we will have to buy another $60 game, instead of being smart enough to put it as DLC, which I wouldn't mind paying for.
Posted by URIEN IN A SUIT on June 23, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. #170
OMG yes that theme song is awful. NO lyrics plz. ty
Posted by Elena is fun on June 23, 2009 at 7:37 p.m. #171
plenty of crossups, mixups, overheads, special overhead (that I hope won't get nerfed like Chun's who can get swept out of it - IN THE AIR), specials with multi hits, that work very nice as EX version, fun Super Arts too.
Ever make a turtle player down to no life, then run away yourself and heal SA3 to full life and watch as the turtle finally has to come towards you. Funny stuff.
Back+HK >>>> SHOTOs
Blue eyed African does have some strange racial connotations to it I read somewhere. If not boring black/brown, how about Hazel eyes Capcom? Right that wrong and still look anime color style/uncommon.
Posted by Kshbyo on June 23, 2009 at 7:48 p.m. #172
I agree with #173, they definetly should fix a couple of things, especially idk maybe some goddam PLAYER LOBBIES so we can play several matches with friends like HDR has. I think you people should come to the realization that we would like play with our friends and maybe save our replays, I dont even care about posting them I would like to see me versus my friend, and only post one n if I want to post the other one, than that gets removed from the replays.Totally agree with you 173 especially the gay ass theme song lol
Posted by Fu*k the new commers on July 7, 2009 at 6:28 p.m. #173
If you haven't been playing sense 1992 the orignal SF2 fu*k off SF4 is sh*t they made that sh*t to easy for these noob to fu*king win. P.S. Sagat is not broken ever Capcom game Sagat has been in he has always been Top Tier From SF2 CE, CVS2, and now SF4. F*ck SF4 they should have named that sh*t (Fight like a Bitch 4)
Posted by Albert Wesker on July 7, 2009 at 9:14 p.m. #174
I hope they show us this new version of SFIV in August.
Posted by gwano on July 8, 2009 at 3 a.m. #175
R.I.P. MJ K.O.P.
Posted by exCELL on July 8, 2009 at 8:42 p.m. #176
By all means they should milk this for what it is worth. I think the SF4 rivalry were kind of sorry (why does a good bit of the characters run into Ryu?). I was really pissed the treated SF3 like the kid with lice. There are some worthy rivalries to be had in there.
Dudley could have easily been there to rival Balrog because of how he ruined boxing (in his eyes)
In the Alpha series, Karin is an obvious choice. I do not know about Cody though. My best player in Alpha was Guy and considering how he plays different from other characters (maybe el fuerte is closest), I would have loved to see him in it. He is not popular though, so I am not expecting it
Posted by Omar Cloma on July 9, 2009 at 3:59 a.m. #177
If only this update would contain a heavy balancing of the characters i.e. nerf Sagat, Ryu and Zangief down a bit, increase Chun's stamina and give her back her decent anti-air, I'd be very happy.
Posted by dreadl0000rd on July 13, 2009 at 12:44 p.m. #178
If they plan on adding chars, im praying they add Dudley and DeeJay
Posted by anyadat123123 on July 14, 2009 at 5:39 a.m. #179
Ye i understand now, Capcom made a game called Street Fighter, i started to love it, they make new series, now we have Street Fighter 4, as they mentoined WHY NOT A 2D FIGHTER ANYMORE? CAUSE THEY DID WHAT THEY CAN, u can play 3rd strike, and hd turbo.... great games, now we have sf4, not the old, we need new things, a new motor, they made it, and its friggin awesome, and we even got a PC version. We don't need character balance, we need good matches, if we would have good balance, then the games would be boring to watch... they even implemented a "DMG-reduction-system" in SF4, to balance things out, and ppl still complaining... i mean WTF... U want new chars? Why? Cause u don't see ur overpowered 3rd strike char? Like Urien(RX) Tackle abuse? Most of your real problem is that u still can't go from 3rd strike or sf2, just watch the top players like "Daigo" "Iyo" or others, even "Justin Wong" managed to be good in SF4, while u still cry for old things... I can tell u, there are people who liked SF3:2nd impact more then 3rd strike... Its your opininons, and what the years kicked into your brains. I wanna thank Capcom for releasing this nice game SF4 for PC, and i hope this 3rd strike ********* stuff won't come into SF4 just like other people wants... and if something is true about what i read in the first some comments, i'm up to seeing "Dudley" in the new version, but have no clue how can he be implemented, since we already have a nice boxer...
Posted by Goja on July 14, 2009 at 5:47 a.m. #180
Anybody who is complaining about Guile, is just an old Guile player who still wants his beloved doll to be top tier... Comeon, we don't wannt god tier chun back in the game again... I think the current rooster is nice, Ryu is top tier, not like in sf3....
Posted by Guy on July 14, 2009 at 3:55 p.m. #181
Add Guy to the game and all of SFIV's problems will be instantly solved
Posted by DustMan on July 15, 2009 at 4:49 a.m. #182
A SEQUEL??!!! ARE U F*CKING WITH ME??!!! I JUST BOUGHT SF4 AND I SHALL BUY A SEQUEL!!! ALL OF THIS CAN BE FREE UPDATES FOR ALL!!! WHERE ARE DEEJAY AND T.HAWK!!!!!F*CK U CAPCOM!!! AAARRGGHHH.... SEQUEL WILL ONLY BE BOUGHT IF ITS REDUCED TO 10 BUCKS!NOTHING MORE!
Posted by Charlie on July 15, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. #183
Charlie, Adon, Makoto, Karin, Urien. They kept implying Charlie isn't dead in the game so have him already.
Posted by asdf on July 20, 2009 at 3:16 p.m. #184
STOP MAKING IT SO NOOB FRIENDLY YOU IDIOTS
Posted by DUDLEY on July 20, 2009 at 3:46 p.m. #185
they need to just add dudley he would be perfect and make just like 3s dud with upgrades. i cant choose who i want to main in sf4 but if they add dud then my choice is made dud ftw. karin wouldnt have much and would get raped but dudley has a nice dp and very good supers. good normals,combos and juggles 6cr.fk in the corner karin is weak. ibuki would be soild also they need to add dj and t.hawk maybe some guy
Posted by shannaro!!! on July 20, 2009 at 10:17 p.m. #186
I have a tendency to ALWAYS pick girl characters over guys. I don't think they're any better, but i have way more fun using them! I really want to see Karin (from SFA3) for sure. She was fast, strong, and has a lot combo-friendly potential. Damn, she'd be SOOO good in SFIV!!!
Don't get me wrong. I mean Cammy, Sakura, and Rose were all great additions but in the end, only FIVE girls made it to SFIV and that's it! Capcom needs to put more girls in the roster and I'm glad that they're considering Karin and Ibuki into this.
Posted by shannaro!!! on July 20, 2009 at 10:22 p.m. #187
Cammy and Sakura are my favorites. If Karin's popular enough to make it, Sakura's rivalry with her will be just as fun to see as with Ryu's rivalry with Ken.
If you Think about it, Sakura and Karin can be seen as female versions of Ryu and Ken respectively, even though they all play very differently.
Posted by Muerto on July 21, 2009 at 2:05 p.m. #188
I really hope that they keep my main man with the (keep em' guessing game plan) EL Fuerte!..Dude is great...Super fun to play and his infinite...MUNNY!..
that is all..
Posted by Theo Profeitis on July 24, 2009 at 3:04 p.m. #189
Who the hell cares about "Urien in a suit" that's ridiculous.
Bring on:
Haggar
Guy
Adon
Birdy
Damnd (first boss from final fight)
Sodom
Axel was pretty cool
And yeah... Guile needs a boost, he plays nothing lie he used to, slow and disjointed - no fun anymore.
Posted by imthebestsf4playerintheworld on July 26, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. #190
lets get bulbasaur in this
Posted by wasabiChunk on July 27, 2009 at 3:48 a.m. #191
i would like 2 see morrigan...
Posted by Never on August 5, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. #192
Haggar
Guy
Adon
Birdy
Damnd (first boss from final fight)
Sodom
Axel was pretty cool??
that! is ridiculous, URIEN IN A SUIT OWNS ALL!
Posted by Guile_Player on August 12, 2009 at 10:03 p.m. #193
For Guile, do the following:
NUMBER 1: -Improve Flash Kick- Give it higher priority, a larger hitbox, less recovery time (ultra/super as well), and more damage. (Half his move list, a classic anti-air, and yet gets slammed by other anti airs in the game)
NUMBER 2: Give him a normal/special move>>> ultra setup (more specifically, normal/special >> FADC >> Ultra) like Ryu, Sagat, etc (rather than merely super >>> ultra setup as it currently is).
NUMBER 3: Return the sonic hurricane (could work perfectly as a part of a flaskick >> FADC >> Ultra setup, but might require Sonic H. not to require charge)
NUMBER 4: -Make him more nimble - that is, faster moves and less recovery time, less charge time, better crossup. Making him faster will improve his ability to zone. The crossup game is worthy of an upgrade because his currently broken defensive game makes being offensive more useful than ever.
NUMBER 5: Improve damage for his moves so u dont have to bust a gilley combo to match a newcomer Sagat's combo in damage.
NUMBER 6: Ultra/super easier to input like HD remix.
Number 7: Higher stun/higher health
Number 8: Make linking moves easier as they are currently very difficult.
First 3 suggestions are prolly best. Im sure there are a lot of people that would be interested in playing with Guile, vets and newcomers alike, if only he were easier to play with. At LEAST fix the flashkick, surely that could be EASILY fixed (like its entirely unnecessary million year recovery time). So please restore him to his old high tier status - it shouldnt be that hard. Same goes with Vega. I'd say Vega is most in need of improvement, Guile second.
Posted by Danny34 on August 16, 2009 at 9:58 p.m. #194
How about the three most popular characters from 3rd Strike like Dudley, Yun & Yang, and Urien. Imagine the crazy battles with those!
Posted by TiNoKus on August 18, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. #195
i really wish they would improve the AI of the cpu for arcade mode, i remember SF super turbo being more difficult on easiest than SF4 on hardest
Posted by Karinfan on September 21, 2009 at 1:56 p.m. #196
For the love of God, please add Karin.
That they could have the Ryu-clone girl Sakura in the game but not her rival with the unique and fun fighting style was an inexcusable oversight!
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