
"Look like it's time to oil up!"
"I love my daughters, they are so pretty"
Lol Hakan xD
lol, i think hakan makes a fine addition to street fighter :) and any 1 who decides to main him is quite smart considering the fact that 1, he eats up hit w/o a problem, 2, delivers a a hit w/o a problem, 3, hes a balrog counter. but i think differently, when i select my top 3 faves i pick them because i like them not because of there moves. and i currently main vega but will prolly bump him to 2nd seat on my team leaving guy as team leader and juri as 3rd seat. well thats bout it and if any1 wanna add meh my psn is xXStealthSneakXx
Maining Hakan for sure...Great close up with his grabs, has awesome close down from mid range while oiled up, far distances gives him the opportunity to Oil Up(Ex version eats fireballs)...good options at all ranges...AND AN ANTI AIR ULTRA!!! He's gonna be so beast!!
Why is his command grab doing so little damage?!?
I haven't seen his slide going under a fireball yet...if it doesn't...Hakan is going to have big trouble with fireball characters....the slide does not have a fast start-up...the slide itself is not fast...horrible recovery frames and if it doesn't go under fireball WTF is this move is suppose to do?
Oiling up is tedious... and risky...they are already saying that lp command grab(throw the opponent furthest) => lk.oil up is already not save vs certain characters...
I can't see him being even a mid-tier character...only thing going for him is his U2...I think he needs to be way more powerful being in his oiled up state...
Ok, I've been messing around with Hakan and I found out a few things about his oil. When he's oiled up, his command grabs are better overall, in range and in damage. His Oil Rocket goes from 150/160/180/210 to 170/180/200/230 and his Oil Dive goes from 150/180/210/240 to 180/200/220/250. His Ultra's also get a damage boost too. Oil Coaster goes form 480 to 530 (I think that makes it the strongest ultra in the game) and Oil Combination hold goes from 401 to 450. His dashes improve in speed (especially his back dash) and his F+HK knocks down on hit. As far as I know, those are the only benefits he gets from his oil. If anyone else knows anything more, tell us.
As a side note, Hakan's wife is a babe.
Is anyone having a problem with his inputs? FOr some reason more times then most when i want to get the slide he does a grab instead, i checked my input in the training room the and its a dam qcf. Are the inputs that freakin forgiving? I mean i dont have problems with gief or any of the other motion characters(with the exception of seth, but too many of his moves over lap as it is). How in the hell do u get a 360 out of a 90 degree turn?
@15
Ur forgeting his normals really improve. Honestly i understand what they were going for with hakan but hes too reliant on the oil. He really didnt have to suck that much without the oil, i have seen too many times where the throw whiffs infront of there face and its not like hes throws are that dmging either. Hes fun to use but if u want to actually win ur fighting with ur foot in a bucket. Ur honestly better off picking zangief, which is sad because hakan could have been good.
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I'm still messing around with Hakan, I found out a few new things since yesterday. CW pointed out that I forgot about his normals. When oiled up, the range on his normals get a big increase and he can link his normals better to. And I also for got about being able to move in his focus attack. His Super gets some beffs too, it goes from 400 to 450 in damage when oiled up.
Out side of that, I don't think I can find anything else. His Slide move doesn't seem to get any benefits from being oiled up, except for the EX version, which gets a BIG speed and range boost, allowing Hakan to hit fire ballers from full screen. His air moves don't get anything it seems like, but if someone out there can find out, please tell me.
Oh, and he does get a stamina boost when he's oiled up too (about 10% if I had to guess).
As a side note, his Hakan Spear (F+HP) is REALLY GOOD. Has a lot of range even without oil, and it does 150 POINTS OF DAMAGE (to put that in perspective, the light version of his Oil Rocket is 150)
Overall, Hakan with out oil sucks and is probably the worst character in the game. He's slow, the range on his moves suck, he doesn't have a cross up move, and for a grappler he doesn't do a lot a damage. But with oil, he's solid. He does the most damage out of any character with single moves, he's much faster, and in the right hands, a very tough character to fight.
Also, did I mention that his wife is hot? Seriously, she has like 8 kids, and looks like she should be on the cover of SI's swimsuit issue.
The thing with Hakan is despite being categorized as a "grappler," he plays radically differently. Like even when he's oiled you shouldn't really try to play him like Zangief.
His normals are pretty damn good when he's oiled up, so I've been practicing using those more. His oiled Forward + HK is great.
Hakan is a character that you have to pace yourself with to win. You have to take your time. He's not a character that score you a quick victory. With Hakan, victories are earned... patiently.
My biggest gripe is his overlapping inputs. I can't count the number of times I've lost matches when I wanted to do chip damage with the Oil Slide, but instead got a whiffing Oil Rocket. I hope this is fixable through a patch or something because people who want to use Hakan competitively are going to go through hell if this problem of his stays like this forever.
LoL @ #24
I had the same problem, get your oil on then try again.
After doing some extensive testing with him....He has a lot of problems even with oil. Why does he not have a cross up? Plus I found a nice little secret about him that could severely cripple his "solid" status quite a bit.
I play Hakan a lot. I love him. people really have no idea how good this character is. he has 3 offensive moves not counting his super or ultra and thats all you need with him. his 2, 4 hit combos are easy to do and put out a lot of damage. the truth is all you need is his Oil Slide and your set. now most people will think wow you suck if you think that. but what i have found is you can train people to block low to set them up for your grabs. Hakan is tricky and in the rights hands is DANGEROUS!
Oiling up is very important. when he is oiled up he truley is one of the best characters in game. his reach and dmg out put is amazing. He cant be zoned with fireball spammers. if you try to cross him up youll get punished. if you jump at him youll get punished. Hakan is a BEAST. on top of all of that he makes you laugh with almost everything he does!
My style with Hakan is VERY aggressive. 90% of most people online jump at the start of a of fight. so i catch them in the air with a medium slap and oil slide combo. then i JUMP and walk straight in their face forcing MOST people to try and meaty wake up. They then get tossed on the other side of the screen when i can then oil up. thats where the fun begins!
First off i ALWAYS save my ex to get a super. only rarely do i use EX. and if i do its to let a fireball go through me. most of the time i just duck and taunt fireball spammers. Focus absorb the 4th fireball and then slide under the 5th. People seriously, if you cant win with Hakan your doing something wrong. Also you have no idea how HILARIOUS it is to duck under peoples ultra fireballs and then super oil slide them to death! lol
OH! and ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS pick his Oil Combination Hold. or as i call it the Red Rocket. why? because it takes away their ability to even THINK about jumping. having a problem with Blanka spamming rolls? Red Rocket him, Ryu, Ken, Akuma spamming hurricane kick? Red Rocket. Juri jumping too much and doing that dumb move were she dives at you and kicks you into the wall? Red Rocket. did you just bait a random DP? Red Rocket. Oh is that your ultra you are about to do cool... Red Rocket. lol it trumps so much in this game im surprised i dont see more Hakan players.
Hakan = win. Learn him and be ready to win a bunch of matches simply because people think he is a joke. If you dont believe me add UsaySH0NUFF (thats a ZERO) on the PSN network and come get oiled up with me ;)
P.S. i ALWAYS fight in the dark back ally cause i love the feeling of being some big oily dude getting all up on you were no one can hear you scream. Just you me and some oil... ITS OIL TIME!
I also notice the lack of a cross up... unless anyone knows otherwise?
I have found the oiled up focus attack to be particularly effective, as if u hold forward while you are charging the attack, you slide along while charging. You can hit from almost half a screen away if you hold forward and charge to level 3. His oiled up forward and back dash are also suprisingly nimble for a gent of hakans stature.
As mentioned above the range increase on his command normals is massive, f+HP and f+HK are very useful when oiled up, especially his f+HK as this hits low, takes a massive stride, and if they mange to block and you're oiled up you can quickly follow into his oil rocket command throw, which also benefits in effective range substantially; you will be very suprised how often you are within range to get an oil rocket throw out if you oil up regularly.
I play less agressively with hakan, I get close and get the opponent to the floor, then oil up and repeat. Stuff you can do to put the opponent to ground further from you is a bonus. Oh yer and if you're oiled up, EX oil slide will hit full screen with the follow up, and slide under most fireballs.
like #28 says, when he's oiled up hakan really is quite a strong player, though obviously this can be of greater consequence in the hands of a skilled player. (Check the replay channel for B grade or higher hakan replays and you will see some cool techniques people use; I've found it really useful)
Just a minor question, has anyone found an anti-air attack, and jumping attack that are of high priority? Im good at blocking, itd just be nice to swat some people out of the air to put extra damage on the table and restrict that avenue of potential attack.
hey guys i think Hakan is going to be in street fighter 5 b/c of his unique moves!! Who agrees with meee!!!!??
Well seeing as how I like Hakan as a main do you guys think I should let everyone know about what I found out about him that brings him down slightly? Asking for real opinions on this one!!
@ #30
Hakan's HP and MP are decent anti-airs when used properly. So is F+HP if done early enough.
After playing a decent amount of Hakan, I love the guy. I'm a die hard Zangief player to the end, but the Turkish God of Oil has won a special place in my heart.
Here's a piece of advise to all those aspiring Turkish Wrestlers out there: F+MP link to oil slide. That is a bread and butter combo right there my friends, and NO ONE expects it.
Also UsayShoNUFF has a very good point with picking Ultra I. Ultra II is FANTASTIC for the lulz but overall is a harder to pull off and WEAKER ultra. Not only does Ultra I put out more damage, you can play mind games by canceling an oil slide and hitting your opponent with the infamous Red Rocket (yes, you CAN CANCEL the oil slide!!).
People should be less concerned with Juri and more with Hakan, because in the long haul he'll be the one to worry about.
With Hakan Ultra 2 is more usefull than Ultra 1 although i am not good player.
So yes, we can punish when people are doing air attacks but we can punish with other way.
First, people doesn't know that Focus to Ultra 2 works very well, because when players are touched by Focus, they are falling, so Ultra 2 works :).
Then you can do when you jump MP to Ultra 2 (jump MP to low slide).
Ultra 2 punish also Ultra 1 of Ken etc... And when people see animation of Hakan they often jump to escape but it's a mistake punished then :p.
A combo very usefull that surprise other players who doesn't know he possess combos is Jump HK (over head), down MK or LK then slide.
For crossup, only one is known but very difficult to use, the HK. I succeed to do it not often but it works. For anti-air HP but must be done at the right time.
I'm still discovering this character who is really power full, even without his oil.
Hi, i just done other tests.
Cross up works for HK and MK and ... HP
But another works well and i have it in replay (done by myself) without thinking i will success, but HP works like a real Cross up not like the other two. You must be like mid size of the other player when you fall behind him. Not on the top. I combo HP cross up to Oil Dive.
I done it only oe time.
Dunno if you guys have mentioned it yet but his lk super is invulnerable to hits,mk to throws, and hk to projectiles.
he should get buffed soo he can get more popular, wonder how dan became soo popular i still wonder cause alex couldnt even get in ssf4 and Dan did while he's supposed to be the lamest character ever.(even though I mega main the man in pink lol).
Hakan is a ridiculous character. Just like all the other new SFIV characters in that game.
But with Hakan, how stupid. To my knowledge he's the first character in all of the entire series (SFII,EX,III,etc) where you have to do something first with that character, in order to carry out the rest of his commands in order to use him to his full potential.
Imo, I just can't get over that as I think it's very silly. Not only that, the guy is trash. No wonder why he's on the bottom of the tier list.
I hope changed the fact that Adon can literally dash forward and go through ultra 1 on reaction.
I really like Hakan as well, I used to use Sakura a lot, but I decided I needed a change.
Please Check out my youtube channel, I'm posting some of my wins with Hakan for help and critique. I'm having trouble understand why 360+punch misses all the time even if I'm standing right next to them??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ_Alb...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAFx6x...
its sad that the majority of you bad mouthing hakan are too dumb to realize you know nothing about fighting games. Tiers don't make the character the players make the characters. I've hakans that would rock the majority of you on this post who are sittin there bad mouthing a character you prolly don't have enough patience for because your to used to spamming uppercuts.....
Hey, while the PSN is down i made this ghetto video of some of my fun times i have had with Hakan. Check it out. its got some pretty fun moments in it.
I believe Hakan is totally looked over by a lot of gammers. Hakan truly is unique. ITS OILTIME!
There is another part of his mixup especially with oil dive that should be included. During a normal knockdown, (with a sweep or an oil slide) as the opponent gets up and he is holding back and crouching, there's a frame where the opponent is standing before he crouches. During that frame, and oil dive can catch the opponent.
error in this guide, he does not need oil to combo his light punch, it's just a very small window to do it.
Im having a hard time with his grabs. They are not zero frame grabs like T. Hawks or Zangiefs and Im getting beaten at the Oil Rocket by things as idiotic as pokes even when I empty jump into them. It's driving me insane. Why won't they make him a bit more useful?
oil dive tech→http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKTE1zxJEFQ&feature=plcp
i have an idea about an oil projectile hakan throws oil on the ground making the person slip also forcing them to stand up the person flails in place for a few seconds based on the button pushed allowing you to oil dive without a problem
@flyingGOAT
Tottaly disagree.So was seth at vanilla before poongko beat the crap out of daigo and his "imba" whitedragon (and a littlebit earlier cos we had some "signs" of some solid seth users fro online xp).
after patch Hakan is as solid as a rock. Starting oiled-up becomes a lot easier to begin aplying pressure and intimidate opponents with one of the best ground "beasts" of the game from the very first frame of the battle.
No hadoken issues either. i had an A+ sagat cowering at the other side of the screen looking at me with awe having meter to performe oiled ex-slide to panish him at spliti second.
metter-building is awesome u can B "generous" to your opponent with EXz.
Oil dive very underestimated. It can be a powerful tool if know-how to use along with early-jump air grabs that also punish backdashes since during BD player is considered airborne!
I literally just picked up Hakan...He is an awesome character...I usually go for grapple type characters..I find him a bit tough to learn though compared to my other mains Abel and El Fuerte..But he really is a powerhouse....I definitely want to get better with Hakan..
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