Seth Street Fighter 4 Moves, Combos, Strategy Guide
Last updated on March 12, 2010
Character Overview
Strengths+ Excellent defensive game.
+ Lots of great combos and ways to juggle his opponent.
+ Master of zoning tactics (can keep his opponent where he wants).
Weaknesses
- Outright horrible stamina ranking — the lowest in the game.
- Also gets stunned very quickly.
- His foot speed is slow.
- Damage on some of his attacks is bad, especially his Ultra.
- His Special Move commands overlap, sometimes causing you to execute a move you didn't intend to.
Special Moves
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• Sonic Boom •
Throws out a projectile that looks acts quite a bit like Guile's Sonic Boom, but doesn't have as big of a radius and travels at a faster speed. That rate at which this travels depends on the Punch button you use, Light is the slowest, Hard goes the fastest. Medium is a mix of the two.
While your Sonic Boom isn't as large as Guile's, it still has solid priority for knocking jumping characters out of the air and it's not easy to avoid.
This is a very good tool in the right hands though, especially when coupled with Seth's anti air attacks and Teleport. You can zone out a lot of characters with your projectile.
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• Shoryuken (Dragon Punch Uppercut) •
If you land this, you can repeat the motion 2 more times to hit you opponent 3 times total.
A great move and a good anti-air attack as well. The Light version can be use for combo setups after Seth lands his Crouching Hard Punch. The Medium and Hard versions are your best bet against jump in attacks. Not only do they do more damage, but they offer better a better invincibility window, so you don't trade hits.
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• Spin Kicks (Hyakuretsukyaku) •
*Armor Breaking*
You can combo with the Light and Medium Spin Kicks after a Crouching Medium Punch, or Crouching Medium Kick. Your Hard Spin Kick has too much start up time and won't combo after these moves.
A good attack to end combos with, plus it causes a healthy amount of stun. If blocked though, this move isn't safe, so you should only execute it if you know you're going to combo.
The Light version has the least amount of range, but fastest start up time. Hard has the most range, but worst start up time.
• Tanden Engine •
Each button corresponds to how far the Engine will go to bring your opponent close to you. Light goes the shortest distance, Hard goes the farthest, and Medium is a blend of the two.
This move isn't bad, but it has a somewhat low priority when used in a match. You want to use this move when your opponent does something stupid and is on the ground. If your opponent blocks this move, you can be punished.
Most Seth players avoid using this move, the EX version on the other hand...
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• Yoga Teleport •
Doing a Shoryuken motion and pressing 3x Punch (Forward Teleport) will place you behind your enemy, while the same motion plus 3x Kicks makes you appear right in front of them.
On the other hand, doing a reverse Shoryuken motion and 3x Punch will teleport you backwards about half-screen's distance and 3x Kicks will move you away to full-screen's distance.
This is a fast move, but there's a very small window of recovery time where you can be hit out of your Teleport as you're reappearing, but as long as you do this from the proper distance and set this up right, you should be safe.
Since Seth has a VERY low stamina rating, proper use of your Teleport is important to get you out of rough situations and give you a bit of breathing room. But it can also be used on the offensive end of things when coupled with your Sonic Boom.
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(360 motion when close)
• Spinning Piledriver •
To execute the Spinning Piledriver (360 motion) you must hit 6 points on the joystick, you do not have to do a true 360 motion, 225 degrees will work — and you can start from any direction. This is different from other Street Fighter games where doing a Spinning Piledriver usually required hitting 7 points on the joystick.
A decent command grab, but the damage output is nowhere near Zangief's Spinning Piledriver. Still, it has a quick start up time and can cause some havoc when coupled with your Sonic Boom and Teleport commands — among other tactics.
The Light Punch version has the most range, but offers the least damage. Hard Punch has the smallest range, but takes off the most damage. Medium is a mix of the two.
(In the air)
• Dive Kick •
You have to jump forward to execute this move. Seth changes the trajectory of his jump and instead of going forward, goes downward and hits.
This is a somewhat good and bad move. You don't want to be doing this move regularly — however — you can use this attack coupled with his Wall Dive to bait trigger happy Dragon Punch users. Do the Wall Dive and immediately use the Dive Kick to alter the trajectory of your where you land. If you opponent is used to doing a Hard Dragon Punch, they'll whiff it and you can punish.
EX Moves
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• EX-Sonic Boom •
Instead of throwing a single projectile that hits twice, Seth throws two Sonic Booms. If both connect, this does more damage than the regular version, plus it's harder to avoid. These also travel faster than the Hard Punch Sonic Booms you normally throw.
The drawback is that it takes longer for Seth to throw both EX-Sonic Booms than it takes for him to toss out a single projectile, so if your opponent can anticipate these, you can be punished.
Regardless, these work well in combos and also to bait jump-ins.
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• EX-Shoryuken (Dragon Punch Uppercut) •
You can do the Shoryuken motion up to six times to get six hits in on your opponent. A great anti-air move, and a handy way to finish bread and butter combos.
This also does more damage than the regular version, offers more vertical and horizontal distance, has invincible frames while the move is starting up, and works pretty well when trying to juggle. A great circumstantial move, but very punishable if you miss.
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• EX-Spin Kicks (Hyakuretsukyaku) •
*Armor Breaking*
Almost the exact same as the Hard Kick version of the move, but this offers some invincible frames of animation while starting up. Unless you need the invulnerability — don't use this.
• EX-Tanden Engine •
Executing this move requires two EX bars instead of one. The primary advantage with the EX-Tanden Engine is that it can be used to grab the other player as they're falling down from your attack (like a juggle) and will also grab them out of certain moves your regular Tanden Engine would not.
One example is after juggling with a 6 hit EX-Shoryuken, you can follow up with an EX-Tanden Engine and continue your combo.
The Tanden Engine doesn't count as a hit, as far as combo damage scaling is concerned, so it can be handy to add a bit of extra damage to the end of your combos, if you don't mind cooking two EX-bars.
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(360 motion when close)
• EX-Spinning Piledriver •
This offers more damage than the Hard Punch version, and a tad more range then your Medium Punch Spinning Piledriver. The main benefit here is the extra damage though.
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• Tanden Storm (Super) •
Seth creates a ball of energy which will suck your opponent in hitting multiple times. The Punch button you use controls the range of this attack and the start up time, with Light having the least distance, but shortest start up period, and Hard having the biggest range, but longest start up time.
The closer you are, the more damage this does, but even from near full-screen distance, the damage difference isn't large compared to if you were standing right next to your enemy — assuming most of the hits connect.
From max range though, this tends to miss a number of hits, so always try be at least a few steps in when you execute your Super.
This can work well as a long-range punishing attack, but it may not be something you want to use your whole Super bar on unless it gives you a decided advantage.
Also, the energy ball will destroy any projectiles it touches, and this move can also be used to juggle your enemy. Like most Super moves in Street Fighter 4, the damage isn't terrific, but this is still a good situational move.
• Tanden Stream (Ultra) • *Armor Breaking*
Other Resources
Contributions to this guide by SSJ3X-II, MrWasabi and Sleazoid.
Posted by joey on January 19, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. #1
wonder if u can play as him online
Posted by G Manifess on January 19, 2009 at 6:41 p.m. #2
Yeah, that tandem engine looks like a problem.
I forsee much abuse if this character is playable online.
Looks cheaper then Gill.
Posted by Devin on January 20, 2009 at 10:24 a.m. #3
IS he even supposed to be balanced?
Posted by craven on January 20, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. #4
can anyone let me know sum combos for seth plz.
Posted by StayCrispy on January 22, 2009 at 5:57 p.m. #5
he's not really "balanced" but he takes damage like Akuma
Posted by Telvanni on January 23, 2009 at 6:45 a.m. #6
Also heard his damage is pretty crap as well. The tandem engine is also supposed to take 2 slots of his Super Gauge to pull off, but that's just what I've heard. Speculation and such.
Posted by ED on January 23, 2009 at 10:53 a.m. #7
Yes, the big question is: "Is this guy balanced enough so we can play with him?" Overpowered characters can't even be used against our friends in freeplays, without risking set up their rage.
This was always the problem with SNK bosses, for ex. Problem with Gill, too. Don't know much of my friends who would accept fighting against Gill. =/
I think all chars should be balanced. Period. But I'm okey into giving the CPU a hand (like Kain in Mark of the Wolves)
But... does he really takes a lot of damage? The final boss? I don't know if it makes much sense. The last boss cannot have the danger of a sudden death with a lucky combo. =p (unless his CPU encarnation is somehow like Kain, as stated above)
Posted by Devin on January 27, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. #8
Like you said, he probably only takes alot of damage when he is chosen by a human.
Posted by juhayemeyaenee on February 2, 2009 at 3:02 a.m. #9
Let's hope he's balanced so we can use him. Sounds beastly, but balanced oddly.
Sonic boom, shoryuken, 360, yoga teleport... what more could you ask for? I know there are other moves, but that's like Gouki/Akuma with a 360 move. :D
Posted by bazil on February 4, 2009 at 12:05 p.m. #10
maybe he will just play like a cheaper urine....... oh I mean Urien.
Posted by julio on February 7, 2009 at 12:17 p.m. #11
I wish dee jay,T.hawk,Adon and ingrid were in this game
so seth could fight them.
Posted by DaCow on February 11, 2009 at 9:05 a.m. #12
Will definately be playable in multiplayer, im guessing his moves wont do as much damage as others considering he has taken moves from other players. If you go to gametrailers.com there is seth in training and you can see how powerfull all his moves are his super and ultra moves do quite alot of damage but these may change in multiplayer.
Posted by 3 hours at it... on February 12, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. #13
how do you beat him?
Posted by lala on February 17, 2009 at 4:59 a.m. #14
You empty his health-bar to beat him.
Posted by unknown on February 17, 2009 at 7:36 p.m. #15
you can play as him online he pwns XD I got killed like ten times by him online he's evil.
Posted by Kaizen on February 18, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. #16
Damm Dr. Manhatten poser! But there are worse bosses out there then him, he's actually pretty low on the bar in my book :P But I do like his move set, I am looking forward to trying him out.
Posted by jehlei on February 18, 2009 at 9:42 p.m. #17
how do you beat him, besides emptying his health bar???ive tried numerous times and each time i go near him, he beats me.
Posted by zhang on February 18, 2009 at 11:28 p.m. #18
triple fkin dragon punch!!! imba
Posted by monkey bwains on February 19, 2009 at 12:55 a.m. #19
assuming u guys are playing him on medium. first round is easy.
second round, do a jump in, he will most likely do a yoga HP. just hk and sweep. dont try to beat him in the wake-up game youll just get shoryukened X 3.
When he teleports around just do a back jump until he stops and follow up with a combo. you can try crossing him over but you gotta make sure it connects or else youll get piledriven. its pretty much just practice. i beat him on the hardest dif with no continues (used bison)
Posted by Rumors! on February 19, 2009 at 6:10 p.m. #20
Just speculation but I think his story is going to wind up with him being an early version of Gill/Urien. His force attack looks just like Urien's Tyrant Shoulder, and since Abel is just another copy of Seth he has Uriens d.FP elbow. Seth and Abel both have a bunch of the same moves of Urien/Gill.
Posted by Jon on February 19, 2009 at 6:55 p.m. #21
I went through the entire arcade mode with no problems till him. God he made me want to throw babies off buildings.
Posted by AlexEnAbled on February 20, 2009 at 12:34 a.m. #22
So, Seth is a pansy when he goes against Sagat, that match up almost says he should be playable, because the fireball zoning + Tiger Destruction tracks teleports = one dead Seth. SFI Boss FTW.
Posted by Arrogance on February 20, 2009 at 8:02 a.m. #23
I've been picking Seth randomly against online opponents (mostly for the intimidation factor), and I can easily confirm he takes damage heavily--in a vs. Akuma match, I was beating him around pretty handily and still lost because Seth takes even more damage than him! Play him keep-away though (except when you teleport in for an SPD), and he could be a terrible pain in the neck.
In the hands of a well-trained player, I can see him being very abusive. One of his Normal trials has him doing a copy of Chun-Li's triple head-stomp two-in-one into an Akuma-like downward kick. A Hard trial has him comboing this same string *off of a jab Dragon Punch*. Might be a future member of the Banned from Tournaments club...
Posted by B on February 20, 2009 at 10:57 p.m. #24
He's bogus as hell on hard. When the computer decides it wants to kill me it just does. He'll use his ultra at any given time regardless of the situation and once ur downed ur not getting back up. There's a difference betwen being hard and boarderline impossible.
Posted by Krishaw on February 21, 2009 at 2:04 p.m. #25
I hate him. Simple as that. I have been waiting for this game for almost a year and a half now and all I think of it now is how I want to return it. No boss fight should be that hard in any game.
I started playing as Ryu first of all and swept through the campaign with maybe a bump or two along the way. Then I hit Sagat who handed my hole to me on a platter and I managed to overcome him eventually.
Then I reached Seth. Now I can't play the game without thinking of finding the Capcom executive who came up of the concept of Seth, slit his throat and throw his body off the Grand Canyon.
Posted by nick on February 21, 2009 at 5:23 p.m. #26
wat the hell he is to strong why should we like him if he is real well i hate him
Posted by nick on February 21, 2009 at 5:25 p.m. #27
ryu is strong my dad likes to play him and yes im the one who said wat the hell he is to strong why sould we like him if he is real well i hate him
Posted by i hate seth on February 21, 2009 at 5:27 p.m. #28
im nicks brother i to hate seth he is an @$$ hole
Posted by i hate seth on February 21, 2009 at 5:28 p.m. #29
hey remember me my real name is not i hate seth i just hate him
Posted by nick on February 21, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. #30
hey krishay do u know how to beat seth? cuz i need help alot of help oh and my brothers real name is troy dont tell him that i told u
Posted by on February 21, 2009 at 5:33 p.m. #31
you ass hole seth
Posted by Sagat on February 21, 2009 at 7:31 p.m. #32
I've played one person who used Seth in an online battle and I perfected him with Sagat.
Posted by im a noob on February 21, 2009 at 11 p.m. #33
how do you do a triple kick?
Posted by Krishaw on February 22, 2009 at 6:23 a.m. #34
Nick,
I haven't done it yet. To be honest I only get through the first round be spamming the EX focus punch. At round two, I get served. Seth-style.
Posted by Seth Hater on February 22, 2009 at 10:37 a.m. #35
Seriously i hate fuking hate seth. I HATE HIM WITH THE FURY OF HELL !!!
STF4 is a great game, but the standard boss ruins a good game, his stage and styling are so corny and dont suit the rest of the game, the fact that he is so cheap and just spams repeatively again and again the same $hit is so early 90's video game style.
CAPCOM if u want to make a challenging end boss ?? u dont it completely wrong, u failed miserably. He isnt challenging at all, there is no challenge in involved in beating him, we dont feel challeged just FUKIN PISSED OFF AT YOU for ruining the game with seth.
Make a end boss that is technically challenging, even if he is hard at least we can admire him, seth looks like $hit and is just cheap and corny to play against. Unlike AKUMA OR BISON who might be hard but u still respect them as the games boss.
SF4 ? - WIN
CAPCOMs character of design Seth ? EPIC FAIL !!
This isnt 1990 video games, we demand sophisticted gameplay, LAST CHANCE CAPCOM! OR U WILL LOSE THE LAST BIT OF RESPECT AND ESTEEM I HAVE FOR U AS A GAMER DEVELOPER. OTHERWISE I WILL BOYCOT EVERY AND ANY GAME U PRODUCE AND WILL INFLUENCE MANY OTHERS TO DO THE SAME!
Posted by Kakita Tatsumaru on February 22, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. #36
Or not.
I always did like overly strong final boss in SNK games, and it seems like I will be envoying SFIV even a little more. ^^
Posted by die_seth_die!!!!!! on February 22, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. #37
I would prefer overly strong. On medium difficulty he's virtually f@*king impossible. Medium is basically the same as setting the game to normal. If a moderate player can't beat it on normal then it's TOO DAMN HARD!!! I don't want a perfect on him or anything like that I just want to complete an arcade play through on freakin medium. I play with Ken and the closest I've come to beating him is when he had critical life left and when I started my ultra combo he was in the middle of teleporting right in front of me. Guess what happened next. My ULTRA "REVENGE" ATTACK was Counter by his GRAB. WTF!!!! Capcom if you ever release the name of the programmer who designed Seth to be this hard I will personally put his head on a platter!
Posted by seth hater on February 22, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. #38
i agree capcom sucks so bad for making seth so hard
i have beaten him with Ryu, Bison, Abel,
it took about 15 tries to get it done with each guy.....
i have tried with sakura at least 50 X, its not that i am a bad player, seth is just too hard!
bull crap to capcom, they can suck lemons and hope they burn in hell
Posted by Chris on February 22, 2009 at 10:14 p.m. #39
LOL! You guys make me laugh so hard. Seriously. All you people with problems killing him must suck. And I am no SF master either. Ryu + 2 tries = Dead Seth
Posted by zircon on February 22, 2009 at 10:27 p.m. #40
Nah, Seth is pretty damn hard. I play a pretty good game of HDR on and offline, but even on Easy mode I have a lot of trouble with Seth in SF4 using some characters. E.Honda, I got him on my first try; with Abel though, it was next to impossible. His priority is just insane.
Posted by Care.. on February 23, 2009 at 2:46 a.m. #41
He isn't really strong in network battle's.
A Few hits take ALOT vitality.
But if you can play pretty good, then its a beast.
Posted by Sam on February 23, 2009 at 6:07 p.m. #42
Seth does indeed suck balls, big, hairy balls, but i have a way 'The Awesome Combo Of Cheapness' with ryu (jumping hard kick, crouching hard kick, run away) worked so well it's not funny, and i'm a chun li player through and through, first time with her. took me 94 tries on medium with c.viper (LOL), i suck with her though.
Posted by gunnah on February 24, 2009 at 1:28 a.m. #43
i use seth alot online and it took awhile to get used to him because his defence is quite poor but a good thing about him is he is quick if u learn wen to teleport, and i dont think he was that hard cuz i got him in a day and ive defeated him on hardest mode but i could understand your fraustration if u were using a 360 controller.
Posted by sam on February 24, 2009 at 7:40 a.m. #44
360 controller it was! d-pad on those things sucks, shame, i'll have to buy a fight pad methinks, or a fight stick, depends how rich i'm feeling.
Posted by DieSethDie on February 24, 2009 at 6:34 p.m. #45
I totally agree with seth hater 200%. Seth is not hard he is insanely cheap. I grew up on the NES which has games way more challenging then the stuff they are coming up with now so I am no stranger to hard games and do enjoy them very much. Once you finally beat a hard game you can sit back and enjoy your win, but beating seth has nothing to do with skill or ability, just pure luck. Every ultra move I use on him he can cancel with just a regular kick, does that make sense to ANYone???? the next match I want to see is SFIV disk vs my microwave. You lose, Perfect!!
Posted by lonesome planter on February 24, 2009 at 7:10 p.m. #46
The only way I could find was to play as Blanka and just do the electric shock non-stop. It takes a bit of luck but is sometimes enough on normal.
Posted by capcomisthedevil on February 24, 2009 at 7:15 p.m. #47
I have offered all of my street fighter buddies 50 bucks if they could beat seth with viper on easy and 200 if they did it on hardest, needless to say I have not parted with any of my money. And these guys were all street fighter vets
Posted by Nutcase on February 24, 2009 at 10:41 p.m. #48
Just spent 2 hrs playing thru arcade with Sagat for practice. One thing about the AI in this game is that no matter how good it seems, you just gotta find that one move they can't counter well and just spam the hell out of it. I was getting my ass handed to me by a medium hard Cammy and I beat her in the end by doing nothing but standing HKs, I literally did no other moves. I beat medium hard seth by spamming tiger knee crushes throwing a few ex ones when I had meter. I literally took him from 70% to 0 with 6 straight knees in the final round. Its a little retarded how the AI works sometimes.
Posted by Nate on February 25, 2009 at 3:08 a.m. #49
Seth sucks. Horrible boss. You don't win because you learn a pattern or play around his moves, because he does things randomly. This leads to frustration because there is no real strategy in killing him. You just go at it, hoping to land high damage moves and you win by being lucky. How did Seth get through play testing? My only guess is Seth is for the arcade owners (once SFIV doesn't have a crowd around it).
I do have two tips though:
* When he does his Ultra, block high. I thought it was unblockable for the longest time. Blocking this makes a big difference.
* Abel beats him easier than anyone. Stay next to him when he gets up and do your tornado throw. After the throw dash to him and do it again when he gets up. The AI has no way out and you can do this until he dies. This was on easiest anyway, I was beating it for unlocks and found this.
Posted by Kakita Tatsumaru on February 25, 2009 at 7:02 a.m. #50
@die_seth_die!!!!!!:
He's not that strong.
After only the unlocking process (in the easiest difficulty) and 7 hours of play with a friend I tried to finish the arcade mode on the higher level of difficulty and finished it with only 6 continue (4 were used for Seth).
Plus when Seth is used by a player he becomes a lot less strong: decreased vitality and priority.
Posted by Seth=ruiend gamepad on February 25, 2009 at 3:19 p.m. #51
I want my god damed money back.
I was locking forward to this game for so looooong, and then, Seth.
It totatly ruines my psych.
There is no pattern in that guy, and YES I have beaten him, but If you learnd from it, you should be able to do it agin, on Seth, no FACKING way.
He just go into to "destroy" mode, and you dont stand a chance for maby 50 rounds. That's totatly unacceptable
for a game. I have playd my share of game, and never been so pisst off! I never trown a controller in to the wall until now. HaTE this- I want my money back. This makes Street fighter 2 HD remix a nice game!
Posted by Mollie Grins on February 25, 2009 at 4:02 p.m. #52
Found Seth stage two to be a hard nut. Am at it for 4 hours now with mainly Rufus :)
beat him with hona and bison on medium but was hoping to find some good tips here for the second stage.
first round is a breeze by just jumping towards him after is long arm attack and hit him twice and go def again till arms :)
So have 2 tries every fight for stage two Hahahah!
Posted by I main Seth on February 25, 2009 at 4:38 p.m. #53
You guys whine way too much. Boo hoo, the end of game boss is more powerful than playable characters. Get over it, and use easiest to unlock characters.
Posted by one dissapointed gamer on February 25, 2009 at 11:06 p.m. #54
ok first of all seth is probably one of the worst names for a boss character ive ever herd of and secondley hes way to hard. beating him with any character other than a select few comes down to sheer luck (for the casual player like my self)also hes just not ya know intimidating or cool hes just a pain its not "oh no its seth" its "aww jeez now i gotta fight seth *plays fallout 3*" gill was scary "the mark of my dignity shall scar thy dna" that was freaking hardcore. seth is just some naked blue guy like so many other nameless faceless lame naked blue guys you have to fight in other fighting games, soul calibur umm 2 had one i think and super smash brother brawl had one as well its just lame and not nearley as cool as who ever is makeing these half tard bosses up thinks they are.
Posted by one dissapointed gamer on February 25, 2009 at 11:11 p.m. #55
oh and i almost forgot his ultra is stupid
Posted by I main Seth on February 25, 2009 at 11:30 p.m. #56
Dear one dissapointed gamer,
Your grammar sucks. You used one full stop in that entire paragraph, making it a pain to read. When I did read it, I realised your opinion probably isn't what Capcom was considering when they made a game for nostalgic SF fans.
First of all, Seth is named after Seth Killian, who you'd know if you were involved with Street Fighter, and not just a casual. More importantly, Seth does, in fact, have a name, and a face, making him not nameless or faceless, and 'lame' is just an opinion.
I could go on, but no one's going to bother reading this, probably not even you, making this rant worthless, but to cut a long story short:
tl;dr, Seth is awesome to people who like him, and lame and cheap to people who only play Arcade Mode.
Posted by Ariez on February 26, 2009 at 6:52 a.m. #57
ok seriously fellas you are just noobs. And im not even close to playing. Seth is tough but hes not that hard. If you know how to BLOCK, and how to maximise each hit (combos)you should be fine. Granted it took me like 6 tries on hard wit sakura, but thats just cuz i hate and suck wit that chic. This page has frame data on it for goodness sake! read it study it, apply it, and do more than PLAY ARCADE MODE. JEEBUS!!
Posted by Spinning piledriver on February 26, 2009 at 8:01 a.m. #58
Spinning piledriver Seth to death...
You bring the spin and you shall feel no sin...
Posted by DevinAmir1 on February 26, 2009 at 8:13 a.m. #59
Hit seth once, and then play the keepaway game until the time runs out, make sure you have it on 30 seconds. Also I am a Seth player, and he is FAR weaker when a human player uses him. He takes more damage than Akuma, and his damage output-even from his ultra, sucks. The trick is to keep people away with stretchy moves, projectile(s), and teleporting. Seth isn't hard to beat on arcade mode, even on hardest. The trick against him in that case is to pick Gief', and spinning pile drive the holy s--t out of him. Seriously, stop whining, and ask for tips. I don't want to hear people say "I did ask for tips..." because if you did, I am obviously not speaking to you.
Posted by Seth PWNS on February 26, 2009 at 1:27 p.m. #60
A-Men to above comment. I i just started playing sf4 last week and i have progressed so much with the help of this sight. i was losing like 100 times to seth with chars before i could beat him, now i can go medium and once even got a perfect, mind you i have good friends that taught me well and still woop me.
To all those bitching about seth with regards to him being cheep, not to be rude but realisticly your probably not as good as you think you are. sure seth has some anoying moves but he becomes SO overly predictable after some point.
Posted by F.U.C.K. H.I.M. on February 26, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. #61
F.U.C.K. S.E.T.H.
Posted by kiddbuu on February 26, 2009 at 3:41 p.m. #62
Bottom line is that seth is not a good boss. I know its people out there that are like "oh you must suck if you cant beat seth" but if you look at the big picture it shows that seth is harder than he should be. no matter if you are a noob or vet you should be able to agree that hes too hard. Ive been playing SF a long time and I shouldn't be able to lose on easiest...just a thought....oh and i should mention that i have a good online record and haven't been beat by a seth player yet.
Posted by MakoKenova on February 27, 2009 at 2:36 a.m. #63
Seth, once you analyze his patterns, isn't so difficult. I was like you, going "Darn it! He's too hard! This is impossible!" on Easiest. Now I'm working my way up and kicking his ass in Hard with Vega.
Lemme say that again. With VEGA.
As in CLAW. Worst character in the GAME. (Though I have no idea where they get that notion. My Vega hurts people online)
Just read him. You'll get down what he does, when he does it, and what you do to provoke him to do what he does. After that, cake walk.
Posted by x Who Is Alpha on February 27, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. #64
I think you guys are complaining a bit too much about a boss, hes pretty damn cheap in the hands of a skilled player but seriously guys have you ever actually tried distancing then doing a jump hardkick? Im not even lying, I just jumped and hard kicked over and over again on the hardest setting and destroyed him. I beat the game essentially with just about every character using that. Though I used Vega and destroyed him the good old fashioned way. My Claw is pretty insane.
Posted by Nick B. on February 27, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. #65
Seth single handedly knocks the quality of this game down a few notches, and the above post only goes to prove that.
Seth is impossibly hard, even on the easiest setting. The developers have sold out casual gamers in exchange for hardcore players that have little more to do with their time than spend 24-7 mastering this game.
Further Who is Alpha points out that Seth can (although only occasionally in my experience), be taken down by a series of repetitive kicks...which is completely contradictory to the point of the game. You run through the campaign learning a few key moves here and there, only to have to toss them aside in favor of repetition and cheap shots, because, frankly, Seth won't give you even a split second to execute so much as a sonic boom. He removes all finesse from the game, and seems to illustrate that either the creators have turned their backs on the casual gaming audience, or are simply too ignorant after four years of developing this game to understand the concept of difficulty settings.
Posted by SCABracadabra on February 27, 2009 at 5:34 p.m. #66
I have had more trouble with Challenge Normal 8 against Akuma and Gouken then beating Seth. Not to say Seth is easy to beat but you can get to him easier then the former. Oh, and Seth is a horrible character to play with, no speed or defense.
Posted by Former SFFan on February 27, 2009 at 7:53 p.m. #67
Seth is cheap an that's that. The only way I beat him with Guile was in a "less than epic" Sonic Boom match where I stayed in the corner firing Socin Booms and throwing him if he came near. In the end I agree that Capcom has missed out on the point of difficulty settings and that's well and good for hardcore fans who want to play on hard to have such an extravagent challenge, but for those who just want to enjoy the game, they really made it hard to do so. I hate being cheap and even more than that, I hate when the game forces you to be cheap to win, and as was mentioned before, there really is no pattern!
Posted by Just FYI on February 28, 2009 at 12:56 a.m. #68
There is a bug or a conflict when the game is installed on the system(PS3). For some reason having the game installed can set Seth to Hardest no matter which difficulty you choose. The only fix known, that has worked for me, is to delete the install from the Game Data Utility file on PS3.
Sure the loading times will be longer, but Seth will be a cake walk on Easiest.
Posted by PunchingBag on February 28, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. #69
IMPORTANT:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmes...
It seems that there's a bug which ramps up the difficulty of Seth in the easier modes; it can occur if you have both the game and the 1.01 patch installed.
That said, as a newcomer to the series, it still takes some practice to beat the game on Easy even without the bug. To beat Seth I basically had to find something his AI couldn't handle (at least, in easy mode) and spam the hell out of it. In the first round, I used focus attack to absorb his stretchy yoga punches and then hit his arms; round two (with Ryu) I jumped in with a hard kick then sweeped him to the ground with crouching hard kick, over and over. (Normally I'd frown upon such tactics, but after the 40th continue, honour holds no meaning to me.:3 )
That said, I personally like his design and ultra, so I'll reserve judgement on him till he's unlocked.
Posted by OldSFfan on February 28, 2009 at 11:42 p.m. #70
I can understand the frustrations all you guys are talking about with Seth as the end boss. I haven't gotten this angry against an opponent since Bison at the end of Alpha 3 with his spontaneous psycho crusher X-ism.
Nevertheless! He doesn't knock down the quality of the game, just makes beating it more delicious since it's so hard. Besides, he is more then an evened out character when you unlock him for use in play.
Online I believe he honestly is one of the weaker fighters. He has absolutely no stamina, it's almost pitiful that Akuma can take hits better. His Ultra online is absolutely laughable for it's damage. It looks amazing and does almost as much damage as a REGULAR THROW. His super is good... if it connects. Oh, and my favorite nerfed ability of his is the "piledriver" he gets. He has FAR less range then Zangief and if you pull it off online, you deserve a damn trophy/achievement.
Good luck with him!
Posted by Floodgates on March 1, 2009 at 12:10 a.m. #71
I got the pleasure of seeing street fighter hit the market with the very first one and played almost everyone to date. i must say i will return this game to gamestop for the following reasons:
1. Seth! of course, i beat him but he spams destroying attacks that can barely be dodged (Hint: spinning slam) and his characters design is a fatal flaw. just a horrible design and cheesy character.
2. Online: when searching for rooms it almost never connects due to some odd reason. (only a question mark and the saying: cant connect.) out of a 100 tries i battled only 25. thats GAY! capcom failed here aswell. instead of using a good design like soul calibur did with the 4 player rooms....
3. Cheesy Storyline. the cut scenes are just to short and thats it, no more after that. gay aswell.
This was suppose to be a big hit, but its a fluke! thanks for bamboozling me capcom. appreciate it. i will go back to my streetfighter xbox live game instead....
and to the guys supporting Seth! your gay, and get off capcoms dick.
Posted by ex2 on March 1, 2009 at 2:44 p.m. #72
Seth is not hard, just that some of stink at SF. You think that you can throw fireballs and that makes you amazing at the game.
I mean I picked Blanka on medium and got through with full rules on and finished in 10 mins.
Posted by I main Seth on March 1, 2009 at 9:26 p.m. #73
Basically, the post above me says "I don't like games that don't have auto-aim, and since everyone else is clearly having a massive problem (that isn't Ken) with the online service, it isn't my own fault. Also, I expect detailed stories in my multiplayer fighting games."
Posted by Voice of Texas on March 2, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. #74
Seth isn't difficult, you just need more practice.
Yet there is infact certain ways to beat him.
1. If you're an advanced player, you'll win eventually.
2. Focus attack, forward, down heavy kick REPEAT (cheap)
3. Special Move spam, into combo, if blocked grab repeat.
4. Pick Zangief and just spinning lariat the entire time.
(If you can't do any of those, please turn in the game.)
Also, you can just put it on an easier difficulty and put 1 round.
Posted by oops on March 2, 2009 at 1:08 p.m. #75
I'm with floodgates on this. I don't think this game has much replay value, and will turn it into game stop for probably Halo Wars. I prefer the Street Fighters on Live Arcade over this game.
Posted by SethSucks on March 2, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. #76
While I can beat Seth, and have with most characters at this point, he is not a good boss. You say what you want about your awesomeness, but a boss that requires you to resort to repetitive patterns to win is just not well designed, and that's the way you have to beat him. Beatable? Yes. Good boss? No.
Posted by NotAFanboy on March 3, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. #77
To all the SF4 fanboys who say that 'if you can't beat Seth, well then you just suck at SF4' . . . the reason that SF4 has a variety of settings ranging from easiest to hardest is because it is supposed to be appealing to newcomers as well as seasoned vets - otherwise Capcom wouldn't have created those options. Telling the people that they suck at SF4 doesn't really change the fact that they spent money on it and should have been considered by the game designers when they were setting the difficulty.
If a person wants to fight a really difficult Seth, then the expectation should be to fight him on one of the harder settings. However, in the easier settings the fight should be beatable in the hands of someone who is inexperienced to the game. When a person complains that Capcom should have scaled their difficulty better, they aren't trying to say you should lose your setting, they are merely saying that it should be appropriately labeled.
Posted by Zeekin on March 4, 2009 at 3:10 a.m. #78
I have to say when it comes to bosses I was somewhat disappointed by the balding muscle bound smurf with the cut+paste move list with a few bumper stickers slapped on.
What happened to Gill? Now there was a boss you could set your watch to! Not to mention having a better attitude too, none of the condescending bs Seth goes on with which just makes me pity him more when I use him to mop my floor.
Is this boss hard? no.. lol @ the people who say he is.
Posted by Bill on March 4, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. #79
He's not very good when you play with him
Posted by Nick on March 5, 2009 at 4:36 a.m. #80
Guy who said " jumping hard kick " you stopped me from destroying everything i own. *Bow*
Posted by Nick on March 5, 2009 at 4:42 a.m. #81
Oh yeah by the way, i'm completely new to the SF series. I bought SF4, thought ahh why not, played through on medium. After i learnt a few moves etc. i was fine. I can pretty much own everybody up until Seth (a few hundred tries usually does it). I must say though, the guy is a nightmare when using characters your not familiar with.
Posted by Unknown on March 5, 2009 at 10:11 p.m. #82
WOOT!!! SETH FTW!!!
Posted by Seth's lover on March 6, 2009 at 1:37 a.m. #83
Seth in the right hands is pretty awesome.
You can have alot of fun with him,
Doing a sonic boom then teleporting behind the opponent to do another special move to make a combo is fun.
also bouncing off the wall then landing next to your opponent going straight into a spinnning piledriver.
His Ultra moves are great!
I love the one where he sucks them in and spits them back out to splat on the screen.
Posted by Seth + Hard = me own on March 7, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #84
WTH looks like NONE of you have played SF 2 or an arcade game. in arcade games, the boss is ridiculously hard. IN SF 2 M BISON = IMPOSSIBLE. I OWND SETH AFTER ALOT OF TRIES ON HARDEST. took me less than m.bison though. the DICtator...
Posted by UKNOWN on March 8, 2009 at 3:04 a.m. #85
there i no "bug' or "glitch" caused when you install the game. i uninstalled SF4 and proceeded to get the holy hell beat out of me just as before
Posted by Azuro on March 8, 2009 at 2:20 p.m. #86
Question...how in the world are people losing to him on the easiest setting? I'm throwing fireballs at him the entire time on EASIEST...that's it...he just walks into them.
As for the playable version...he's got some stuff, but he takes so much damage and doesn't deal enough back. I'm surprised anyone would bother banning him at tournaments.
Posted by shin_vae_victus on March 8, 2009 at 3:34 p.m. #87
Seth's a difficult boss until you find that one character specific move you can spam to keep him stunned / knocked off his feet.
With C. Viper, I used qcb + MP. The move will not knock down, but Seth is stunned long enough for you to do repeated ones.
This is not a real combo, mind you, but the AI is too stupid to defend it.
A simple link like Jump + HK, Crouch + HK works too as long as you know when to use it. I wouldn't do this if Seth has an EX bar. He loves using the EX Shoryuken as an anti-air.
Seth is a joke on any difficulty against top tiers like Ryu, Sagat, or Zangief.
Posted by damn not what i tough on March 8, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. #88
seth is garbage he takes alot of damage and deal no damage at all the cheapest character is akuma he can take 75 percent of you health with raging deamon the only good bout seth is hes a mix of most of the characters
Posted by . on March 8, 2009 at 10:53 p.m. #89
Stop whinging you slack jawwed yokels.
Seth is a good F**king end boss because he is actually really tough to beat and is not predictable like other end game bosses. That is how a boss is supposed to be... Really, really hard... not give it enough tries, work out the pattern and then he is really easy to beat from then on....
Posted by Mr. Grimm on March 9, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. #90
Is it possible to block or dodge Seths Tanden Stream?
Posted by shin_vae_victus on March 9, 2009 at 6:07 p.m. #91
Seth's Ultra, Tandem Stream, can be blocked both high and low.
It just seems unblockable because Seth does it at the most inopportune time for the player (i.e. during your move recovery).
It's priority and range is decent, however, so don't expect to counter it too often.
Posted by ColdStone on March 10, 2009 at 4:47 a.m. #92
Ok, Seth is hard. He's a child molesting sun of a bitch. However, first round is usually a piece of cake. So if you want to unlock characters, set teh fights to one round. When you get to him, you can easily beat him.
Now he's tough, but can be beat. It may take 2 tries, or 50,000. But at the end you're like "I just beat that motherf*cker!" At least thats what i did, as well as run around the block naked. That makes it a challenge.
Posted by Omega Shintaku on March 10, 2009 at 6:06 p.m. #93
Seth is a strange one to me, neither hard nor easy. I wasn't totally able to beat him with Dhalsim and C.Viper at medium, whereas I beated him with all the other characters at this setting. By the way, I knocked him out with Sagat or E.Honda or Sakura at my very first try and had to repeat about 30x with Vega... but the time I won I was nearly going perfect. Sometimes is really annoying, he kills you straightly without you able to do anything..., the next time you play, instead, it is cheap and you can defeat him easily. His AI is not very well balanced, happens too often to be too much difficult or too much easy (pending on "too much difficult").
I think he has spawned from a good idea (one character who has copies of other fighters' moves, the same idea I had when I created my SF clone with FighterMaker2D and put on my final boss) and his character design isn't that bad as people here say... but I'd see him as a PRE-Boss, like was Neo-Gego / Neo-Dio in World Heroes.
To me, in fact, Seth seems really like Neo-Gego. It may have been copied from there.
Shintaku
Posted by Tookers on March 11, 2009 at 2:08 a.m. #94
Unlocked Seth last night, had a good practice with him and a few fights online. I agree with some of the comments above. He certainly is evened out and his Ultra is weak, weak, weak. Good fun for a short time.
Posted by Morbid on March 11, 2009 at 4:07 a.m. #95
The worst thing for me, is that I actually don't even get satisfaction if I DO beat him. The computer feels so cheap that you have to be more cheap in return, and add in a load of wasted time, wait for that one round where he turns his "Impossible" switch off momentarily, then pray for a ton of luck, and hurrah... But most of the time I get raped on medium difficulty. If I pick hard or hardest difficulty, then please bend me over and stick it in- but on medium? The crap he pulls is so over the top, it's really not even fun.
Posted by Barry on March 11, 2009 at 6:43 a.m. #96
I also hate seth, though I'm beginning ro be able to beat him. I pray that Bison returns as the boss in SF4 ^^. Some of the endings seem to suggest he might. I know full well he was hard in SF2 but he was so awesome I didn't mind being slaughtered.
Seth, well winning against him is boring and the only reason I keep doing it is to unlock him... (weird)
Posted by Barry on March 11, 2009 at 6:43 a.m. #97
I meant SF5 >.<
Posted by Kanped on March 12, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. #98
Personally, I'm of the opinion that Seth is too cheap. I'm well used to hard end boss fights (who remembers Eyedol?) and I really don't mind too much, but I'd rather have an end boss that had some thought put into it rather than the cut/paste 'This will be hard to dodge' mentality applied here. Its a shame because every other character is really well designed but it's really not that much of a problem; its only arcade mode.
Posted by TBUG on March 12, 2009 at 7:02 p.m. #99
Id like to play as him online but i hate him in story mode when ure fighting him all he does is freakin spinning piledriver
Posted by Aquacate on March 12, 2009 at 8:29 p.m. #100
how do u get seth??
Posted by Baldhead on March 14, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. #101
Forget playing as Dan to handicap yourself. Seth is the way to go if you want a real weight tying you down. Absolutely abysmal damage output and something as tame as a throw hits him like a Spinning Piledriver. I've been trying to use Seth online because nobody seems to, but even the worst of players can kill him with a lucky punch into Shoyruken combo.
From what I can tell you have to play him a lot like Dhalsim, but with a different style of "keep away". Guarding something and hitting back with his 360 grab isn't even worth it half the time since chip damage feels like regular damage to him.
He combos nicely from a Shoyruken or Sonic Boom into his Super, but is it even worth it? His EX moves are the only attacks that hit like attacks should, and from my experience make a lot of difference. His Ultra is only decent when your opponent fires off a projectile, and it is entertaining to counter Projectile Supers/Ultras with it.
Lets stop moaning about Boss Seth and discuss how to use crippled Seth.
Posted by Kanped on March 14, 2009 at 4:01 p.m. #102
How to use cripple Seth? If they jump at you, 3x Shoryuken. If they don't, telepot into spinng piledriver. What else is there to do?
Posted by Baldhead on March 14, 2009 at 5:18 p.m. #103
Shockingly enough, people can react to his teleport before he gets the grab off. I tried it, with probably a 30% success rate. It's not worth the risk of getting hit by an EX Shoyruken.
Maybe I just suck at pulling off the teleport to the piledriver, but it definitely isn't as easy as the computer makes it look.
Posted by Kanped on March 14, 2009 at 6:33 p.m. #104
It might make you look like a fool, but you can just randomly spin the analog stick and hammer the punch button while you teleport. I thought the piledriver had priotity over just about everything? Is Seth's priority crippled as well as his health?
I'm having a really infuriating problem in his 3rd trial- the last one; crouching hard punch into Ultra. I have all 3 punch buttons mapped to a single button but when I try to do the ultra, it just does his super. I tried it with the 3 punch buttons pressed together, I even mapped 4 different buttons ALL to LP+MP+HP and hit them at the same time. Again, it just did his Super. Anyone else had this problem? Is it just the crappy xbox controller again?
Posted by CommonAswhole on March 15, 2009 at 1:10 p.m. #105
I dislike this fellow. His AI is not that hard to beat, not even on hardest if you know his weaknesses. I don't like playing this guy. He looks too robotic and characterless.
Posted by Baldhead on March 15, 2009 at 8:50 p.m. #106
A bit of practice and my success with the 'port to piledriver has increased. It will get them unless they pull of a light punch or kick, which usually happens because they're flailing around. Charge characters can usually do a special move before it too.
His Tandem Engine has made my success much higher. It rips turtling opponents right at you, and sets up a bunch of combos. You can grab people from it for some reason, but you can combo into his kick or uppercuts.
Posted by seth on March 16, 2009 at 8:46 a.m. #107
I've been trying real hard to get a workable seth strategy, he makes el fuerte look like zangief. Here's what I've got so far: wall jump. By that I mean, jump backwards, using hp in air and when landing to keep range, when you get to a wall, jump off it. You have 3 main options at this point: down mk for the headstomp, down hk into crouching hp into shuiyuken x3, and spinning piledriver.
Use headstomp to set them up for the other two, if you time it right, you can even wall jump off the opposite wall to return to the starting position. This move is nearly zero risk, unless they jump and kick you midair or shuriyuken you.
If they do either of these two things or unblock, use the 2nd option. This is where you do actual damage. If they shuriyuken, land the down hk in front of them. Do not connect, it will outpriority your kick. Now that you are in front of them nail any combo you like.
Eventually, your opponent will try the "block and retaliate" strategy. If you sense them blocking options 1 & 2 hit them with the laughably weak pile driver. After two of those most people will go back to attempting a counter attack, which will lose to options 1 & 2
Posted by Baldhead on March 16, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. #108
It helps to start wall jumping after you've been teleporting at them a lot too. Once they get used to the fact you keep pooping over there, they'll use their counter move as soon as Seth does anything. That way, they'll try a move only to whiff it just as you make it there with the wall jump to mess them up.
And, once again, Tandem Engine somebody trying to bait you into stuff.
Posted by brode on March 17, 2009 at 7:56 a.m. #109
This is directed at post #72. (Just addressing his reasons for taking the game back)
1. Who cares about Seth? Are you really going to play the arcade mode once you've unlocked everyone. Challenge mode is a better way to play the game single player. I've played about 500 games online and I've only played Seth once.
2. It takes around 20 seconds to get a game.
3. You are returning a fighting game because of the story. Really? Really? Wow.
Posted by BeaM on March 17, 2009 at 11:49 p.m. #110
@Kanped
His crouching hard punch hits twice, and the Ultra will only work if you do it after the second hit, doing it after the first only yields the super.
Posted by K.I.M on March 18, 2009 at 1:10 p.m. #111
my bf just bought the game and i have never even played xbox before i picked the girl with the tatas on her head cause she was waaay cuter then the muffin top girl ewww and beat the last silvery guy the first time on medium wat a fun game = ) but they need more girls hellooooooo and cuter clothes to
Posted by LazyNG on March 19, 2009 at 6:49 a.m. #112
Casual Gamers FTL
Posted by SuRf StOrM on March 20, 2009 at 9:18 a.m. #113
Well, i found this conversation quite interesting because i'm a Seth player online, ya he takes a severe beating, but his ability to control the fight is ridiculous. he can poke from three quarters of the screen away with stretch arms, counter hoppy's with jumping away stretch arms or dragon punches, pull turtlers out of their corner with tandem engine, or yoga port 360, with people who toss fireballs all day yoga port 360, for focus spammers you've got ex hurricane kick, and if they are expecting your teleports he has el fuertes wall jump for crossing the whole screen for a j.hk into whatever combo you want...
i usually save his ex meter for super combo because if you have them cornered its pretty lethal, and his ulti i usually set up with focus crumples, or after whiffed dragon punches from the millions of crappy ken players online. you can also time his ulti for projectile immunity.
As for AI seth, ya hes a bastard when its a fight he can lose, first round you can literally start the fight with a j.hk sweep, then wait till he is about to get up and charge a lvl 2 focus attack, EVERYTIME he will try to stretch arms punch you, you absorb the hit and stun him, dash forward after it lands and throw him... rinse repeat, toss in your ultra when you have the meter and there you just got perfect on AI seth, works on hardest difficulty... now the second round, you can do this UNTIL ***!!!** he has a bar of ex for an ex hurricane kick... then he'll break armor and youll be in trouble cause he'll be pressuring you. in which case your best bet is still to counter teleports with basic throws and hope you land one until you can get back into the routine...
Posted by Baldhead on March 20, 2009 at 9:35 p.m. #114
I've beaten Seth just by repeatedly grabbing him every time he got up on Medium. It works sometimes and other times he can get out of it.
Posted by Shayn on March 20, 2009 at 11:11 p.m. #115
I dont know if someone else wrote this but at the settings screen just change the amount of wins to one. you wont have to play him twice. He is still hard but you just gotta get lucky once. and why isnt anyone complainin about Zangief? Yea i know he is beatable but he is ridiculously strong for no reason. So far i beat the game with four people; Bison, dhalsim, Ryu and Abel. so far the easiest was Abel then bison. But bison is the character that i use. Now im playin wit Ken and beat everyone easily except seth. Ive been tryna beat him for four hours. Is is just me or does kens Ultra revenge attack have a flaw in it?
Posted by mooky10 on March 21, 2009 at 7:39 a.m. #116
i swear i could of thrown xbox, tv and wife out the window doing this on hard mode. the teleporting he does is just beyond belief!
Posted by thebombays on March 21, 2009 at 3:11 p.m. #117
Even on hardest you can beat Seth easily by just spamming GIEF's spinning lariat. I don't understand why the AI in this game can be so good at times (ie: predicting low sweeps and following up with a Focus Attack) and so shotty at others (ie: infinite lariate ftw)
Posted by PRICELESS on March 22, 2009 at 2:40 p.m. #118
hes very easy to beat with akuma as well, just teleport behind him all the time and he will usually do a sonic boom or his spin kicks and you can punish him with super, ultra, combos, whatever
Posted by Kanped on March 22, 2009 at 6:11 p.m. #119
@BeaM
Thank you so much; you are an intergral part in the fight to keep me sane during these trials... on to Chun Li... eek.
Posted by rob infinity on March 23, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. #120
i cant beat sethh on easiest with ryu am no pro gamer just casual and it pisses me of do you need an arcade stick to have a chance or what
Posted by rob infinity on March 23, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. #121
finaly beat seth it was doing my head in. how do you invite other players online for a fight on street fighter 4 ? am new to all this technology cheers
Posted by rob infinity on March 23, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. #122
finaly beat seth it was doing my head in. how do you invite other players online for a fight on street fighter 4 ? am new to all this technology cheers
Posted by ILL on March 23, 2009 at 11:19 p.m. #123
I agree with most comments, Seth is a little extreme even on Medium difficulty. I have no problem beating him with my mainstays (Ryu, Ken, Sagat), but he's a pain with characters like El Fuerte and Chun Li. His grapple moves drive me nuts, especially when he performs them as I am in the middle of kicking him. And his Ultra move is Ultra lame...seriously what's with the yin/yang symbol for a stomach? Why do game companies insist on creating generic, "future science project" bosses like Seth? Give me a meaningful boss that I actually care about beating. I find his character and level design to be extremely tacky.
Even for those of you who don't find him tough, you have to admit they could have done much better in terms of a final boss.
Posted by MarkyB on March 24, 2009 at 12:43 p.m. #124
Just jump at him from a good range and he'll throw out a sonic boom or dhalsim punch. try not to get knocked down cuz thats when he teleports. His ultra is also very weak when u use him as a character. don't find him overpowered at all
Posted by Seth on March 25, 2009 at 8:31 p.m. #125
What cry babies lol how do you all expect to get all the trophies? Seth ai easy to beat when turtling, Seth human player not so easy to beat unless you know how to fight off seth.
Posted by lljb3 on March 25, 2009 at 9:22 p.m. #126
For some reason Ken was the only one I beat him first time on Hard mode. Prolly 'cuz Ken is the master.
Ryu = 2 tries
C. Viper = 800 tries (slightly exaggerrating)
Chun-Li = 4 tries
El Fuerte = 2 tries (really?)
Rose = 1st try (ok so I lied, just got done doing this)
Seth against Seth sucks even worse. LoL.
Posted by lljb3 on March 25, 2009 at 9:24 p.m. #127
And I hate Seth's trial.
Every time I hit the motion for HP into Shoryuken x3, I end up with the first one canceled into Tandem Storm.
Man, I suck and he sucks worse.
Posted by lljb3 on March 25, 2009 at 9:25 p.m. #128
And finally did that one trial.
Posted by streetfightergeeza on March 30, 2009 at 5:55 a.m. #129
Seth is a weird one. Ive noticed that sometimes you can beat him so easily, like people have said jumping HK + crouching HK rinse and repeat. But then sometimes when you fight him he turns into a super destructive pile of shizzle.
I remember playing through with Gen on easiest, getting like 7 perfects on the other characters, when i reached seth....about 40 continues, angry emotions, revenge wanted.
He is definatly beatable no doubt about it, im just dreading it when i have to do it with my remaining characters Sakura and Rufus... :(
Posted by Urul on March 31, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. #130
anyone ever fight him with dan? Freaking nightmare.
With ken or akuma its really easy, and especialy sagat, I never play as him though
Posted by cat on March 31, 2009 at 6:41 p.m. #131
BECOME A PART OF ME!!!!!
Posted by Seth would say... on April 1, 2009 at 6:25 a.m. #132
"if you make me jump, hold down then tap the middle kick button as you are over the opponent you shall bounce on his head three times... Thankyou for your time..."
Posted by Dan (real life name =) ) on April 5, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. #133
seth is easy, beat him on medium with all characters, unlocked him , if u can do his combos he's a beast.
I am no sf veteran but I am a good gamer, picked up akuma, ryu, ken and sagat, did all their trials and beat seth on hardest with each.
If you are having trouble beating him (i.e in your dreams you can repeatedly hear "Become a part of me!!") he can be hk sweeped with every character over and over, even on medium.
Posted by Paul on April 5, 2009 at 2:40 p.m. #134
My God, how are people this frustrated with Seth on the easiest difficulty? It's not hard at all unless you have no clue what you're doing. I'm far from an SF pro and Seth wasn't even much of a problem on medium. You want cheap, play 3rd Strike Gill on the hardest difficulty. There's "cheap" for you.
Also, I lol'ed at the user who's returning SFIV because "the story sucks". Yes, because logical people buy a competitive fighting game looking for a Shakespearean drama. It's just funny that a seemingly hardcore SF site like this is mostly attracting the cesspool of idiotic casuals that lurk the internet.
Posted by cleaningkratos on April 6, 2009 at 5:10 a.m. #135
I used to play Street fighter and I have to admite I was quite suprised by the difficulty of Seth in Difficult mode. That took me 10 games to beat him the first time. But there is not secret to beat him,after a few games against him It's very easy to predicate his moves.
But in comparison to the other boss in street fighter I m a bit disappointed by the way of playing of Seth. This way of playing look like Krisalid in KOF 99 and Gozenith in KOF 96 with less style.
PS: I bit him on my first time on Master mode with my favourite player ABEL!!!!
Street Fighter IV is a really good game!!! thanks for site
Posted by Olaf on April 7, 2009 at 1:33 p.m. #136
well, to get this where it should be, im going to name off some of my strategies AS Seth. Some have been stated above, but this is how i play him.
1. Sonic boom. A lot. All fireballers have zoning abilities, and seth is far from an exception. Especially with his terrible HP in consideration, its a necessity. Moreover, if you have the spacing right, standing HP can combo with it, and prevent focusing through it.
2. jumping or jumping back HP. one amazing GTFO move. especially at a moderate range, vertical jump HP is a surprise overhead.
3. Wall jumps. Jump off the wall - he has fuertes wj range.
A - d. MK for headstomp: it keeps the horizontal speed, giving a free cross-up into escape. only use this in moderation tho, cuz it asks for a dragon punch.
B - d. HK for Akumas kick - This is mainly used as a mix up. Get the opponent to start predicting the head stomp or normal attacks, then do this to CANCEL horizontal momentum. also, combos well.
4. j. HK is an amazing cross up...its just not right.
5. Watch Seth match videos - there are some amazing combos, such as: d. HP, into hard trial #2.
6. Keep mental track of the opponent's stun meter, moreso than usual. Hyakuretsukyaku does absurd stun, and can be comboed off of d. HP.
7. Make use of teleports. Teleport on them for a 360 grab, teleport escape (sometimes on wakeup), know the teleports.
8. Bait the Revenge super. sonic boom to make them jump, make them EX, whatever. Also, it comes out retardedly fast - if they start a revenge without comboing into it, just mash the revenge out - youll almost always win.
9 - another most notable combo - c. LP, c. LP, c. MP, hyakuretsukyaku.
Posted by philippa brown on April 8, 2009 at 12:45 p.m. #137
on arcade mode i am struggling to beat Seth on the first battle. is there some kind of special way to beat him or do you just have to try alot.
thanks
philippa
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co.durham
Posted by ljay103 on April 9, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. #138
@ philippa brown
sorry dude, you just gotta try alot. i wish there was a trick to beating him, unless you want to be zangief and do LARIATS the whole time. when i played arcade mode for the first time i would be seth the first round and get destroyed in the second round. then i figured i'll put it on easiest, 1 round, 30 seconds - and i got all the characters. now i play on hardest and have a semi-difficult time with seth. its totally doable. combos is what will help you, single hits wont do the trick, complete your character's trial challenges.
Posted by SRSLY on April 9, 2009 at 10:08 p.m. #139
Seth is annoying, but he is very vulnerable to characters with a high jump arc, long reach, and good jump-in ability (the shotos, Bison, Sagat). Just keep kicking him in the head and sweep him or standing HK. Hit him enough and he'll get dizzy fast and you can finish him off.
Zangief is the easiest to beat him with because of SPD and the long reach of his jumping HK. Actually, Gief's jumping HK killed Bison dead in SF2. I guess Gief just owns boss characters.
Anyone whining about Seth should know Bison was unbelievably hard in SF2 - he'd throw out scissors and Psycho Crusher with no charge and his throws did obscene damage. He got easier when I used Gief on him and finally learned the Dragon Punch. I watched one of my friends lose 50 straight matches to Bison on level 0 on SNES.
Posted by ljay103 on April 10, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. #140
@ SRSLY
yup, i agree, bison was hard as crap back in the day. you had to be like super professional to win. speaking of seth. i finally used him last night against a ken. it was too hilarious only because i've lost to seth a million times in arcade, i tried to mimic the way he plays and im sure the ken i was playing was thinking "why is he fighting like an arcade seth?" it was sweet. lots of teleports, spinning pile drivers, and Hyakuretsukyaku (Spin Kicks). fun fun!
Posted by Gpunisher22 on April 16, 2009 at 6:40 p.m. #141
Seth Ruins This Game!!!! I've been playing Street Fighter since early 90's. I've owned ever SF game there is and yes Bison was hard in particular Alpha 3 but he was beatable, but Seth blocks the unblockable, he is beyond cheap, for any one that says that its because i dont know how to play SF can suck it. I think by know i know how to pull off some combos but i digress. Seth Sucks and Ruins the Game also this character has been done soooo many times in other games.
Posted by LoyalSol on April 18, 2009 at 6:06 p.m. #142
Honestly people, Seth is not that hard.....
Posted by FaNboyzSuk on April 18, 2009 at 11:58 p.m. #143
No Capcom ruined this game! Screw all you fanboys who can't point out how much this game sucks!
Posted by Gpunisher22 on April 19, 2009 at 6:59 p.m. #144
Seth isn't that hard if you have certain characters, Ryu,Ken,hell any of the shotokan characters make this game easier. Funny thing though i can beat Seth on my 1st try with Blanka and Ehonda but not Chun Li. Either way i think he really cheap character to fight my biggest problemis the way he is programed.
Posted by SRSLY on April 19, 2009 at 9:02 p.m. #145
I'm going to guess FaNboyzSuk hasn't graduated from high school, plays Ken, and does nothing but try HK cross-ups and DPs all day.
Jesus. What game are you guys playing? I beat Seth with Bison on the hardest level in Arcade without too much trouble, and I'm not all that hardcore of a player. Once you figure out his patterns, he's not that bad.
Can't beat Seth? Let me try language you scrubs might understand: UR DOING IT WRONG. Why don't you losers take a look online at the rather gigantic number of people with the World Champion achievement? That means they beat the game - meaning Seth - on the HARDEST LEVEL.
Try sacking up and practicing more before whining. You'd be surprised how effective that is.
Posted by ljay103 on April 21, 2009 at 1:47 p.m. #146
haha, seth isn't cheap, he just has more moves than the average SFIV character. I am a Guile player, yes he has two moves. Seth isn't bad at all, like I said, he just has a lot of moves, which make him more unpredictable, what do you expect? He's the final boss! Its all patterns, know when he teleports, and know when to counter with a move or when to charge. I use Seth online and he owns!!!!! Not because he has a lot moves, but because no one has figured out how he plays.
Posted by GuileUser on April 24, 2009 at 5:09 a.m. #147
Seth is pretty tricky to start with but, you just need to learn to intice his moves. If you do certain attacks he will counter them with the same move every time. I'm no expert but, I beat him on med with ryu, ken and guile without too much trouble (after a lot of trial and error) on the easiest setting, he poses virtually no threat at all, just pick a special and keep doing it till he's dead.
Posted by Red on April 27, 2009 at 2:41 a.m. #148
The Question is, Is he Really balance?
Posted by Mikey91 on April 28, 2009 at 9:52 a.m. #149
I use him for fun and to me I think he is really balanced. Well, maybe up his health by like 50 - 100 stam. He has a lot of tools and if you know how to use those tools, he is pretty much hard to touch. That's just me though.
Posted by ShiftAws on April 30, 2009 at 10:21 a.m. #150
Hello i want to bring some sense to the noobs who think he is cheap (arcade).
If you haven't read it yet, on easy mode Seth is destroyed by jump sweep.
Also if you pay attention to the game at all, Seth is programmed to react to where you are. If you are further than his stretchy arms chances are you are going to get yoga tele-SPD to hell or sonic boom spammed.
Also online he IMHO is slightly unbalenced. Sure, he has all those moves but his health is just terrible. As Mikey91 said "maybe up his health by like 50 - 100 stam"
Posted by GeneralHannibal on May 2, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. #151
Seth isn't that hard, even on the hardest difficulty. Especially because he does the same thing over and over. Online people do things totally different with him.Most likely because it is not possible to all the things that Seth does as a CPU. At least he doesn't do the jump HP. That would be annoying.
Posted by EDGEMASTER on May 2, 2009 at 12:14 p.m. #152
RIGHT in the online mode there is a guy that uses seth and he is a tought one i couldnt beat him he is really good i know that seth take more damage but i lost a lot of times
Posted by SETH WANNABE KUNT on May 3, 2009 at 4:58 a.m. #153
EXPAND THIS GUIDE CUZ!!!!!!!!
Posted by balla05 on May 3, 2009 at 11:11 p.m. #154
i cant do seth 4th trail normal tha last one...focus attack crouch hp mk,mk,mk while in tha air
Posted by toilet on May 4, 2009 at 5:10 p.m. #155
@balla05
when you do the focus attack dash right after then crouch hp then jump straight up and mk mk mk
do it in the corner
hope that helps
Posted by balla05 on May 5, 2009 at 7:27 p.m. #156
@toilet thanks man i was haveing trouble and i just read it and it worked on tha first try...
Posted by jesus on May 14, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. #157
CPU plays seth like a beast but he sucks online
Posted by Oh Ning Yooh on May 17, 2009 at 12:11 a.m. #158
I only use him online... XBOX 360 OH NING YOOH!!!! get at me ;)
Posted by . on May 17, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. #159
seth has the habit of being fairly abusive on EASIEST, the ai for easiest makes him reverse everything and his 360 has pretty good priority. Try him on easy and he should be weaker. Also i unlocked every char including seth, and i can tell you, seth is far from abusive. 1 raging demon sends me down to 5% health or so.
Posted by zeckostylez on May 18, 2009 at 2:55 p.m. #160
wow, i've never laughed so hard from all these comments lol. indeed seth is quiet abusive. first time i fought him, took me like 10 tries...almost gave me flashacks of bison abusing me on snes. with vega it took me like 80 tries(cause i suck with him and i hate em lol) but truly to unlock all toons, easiest is the way to go like so many people have posted. i play with seth online in championship mode. seems to be the only toon that can really go up against anyone. he puts a stop to that zangief's grab fest. but his energy is so lame lol, sagat hits me like 4 times and im close to death. he is fun to play with when you learn how to play with him, and i find since i played with him so much that when i play the arcade mode i have no trouble beating him. He is predictable. The noobz should definetly do the challenges and learn some combos to better prepare yourself. hope to see some of yah in the ring if i haven't already. PS3 version
Posted by Edmund Honda on May 18, 2009 at 6:10 p.m. #161
I'm glad they balanced Seth out for the multiplayer matches, i figured out that in the campaign the character has a DEF and Gauge regen boost. So in arcade mode it is not the same seth you face in a versus match.
Posted by Stanlow on May 20, 2009 at 11:06 a.m. #162
Having completed Seth on hardest setting, and fought gouken beyond for legendary champion, I can definately tell you he is easily killable, and as a player who has unlocked him, suffice to say this applies to every character. I personally found him easiest with vega who can clean up on seth with his speed, and if used propperly, or chained with a focus attack, his heel drop to EX izuna drop is fast and damaging. When playing with seth, its important to remember that they made him hard 2 play, but remember his teleport (he's so slow on his feet its upsetting)and the gief reveral he uses. If combo'd properly his shoryuken is devastating, and can combo into super nicely. Its also usefull to note, his super hits harder than his ultra... Compared with the power of, say, zangief; both suck, but with the super cancel, if u can get up close, u can unleash quite some damage!!! Remember: You're NEVER gunna be the boss of arcade mode! In hardest setting moves are fired at you at ridiculous speeds... This is because arcade mode doesn't have thumbs!
Besides which; Happy Hunting
Note: I fully recommend (as Zeckostylez has) Trial setting, to gain an in depth knowlege of play before attempting the harder settings.
Posted by MJ on May 22, 2009 at 1:54 a.m. #163
At full revenge, his Ultra does 350 on Ryu, the same as his super!
Posted by Zondac on May 23, 2009 at 9:54 p.m. #164
I can defeat him with every character, except Seth...
Posted by im betr dan u on May 25, 2009 at 4:34 a.m. #165
oi thomas kid
Posted by Duane on May 25, 2009 at 1:05 p.m. #166
lol are you lot being serious? i killed seth with every char on hardest and i unlocked him in best of 3
Posted by danman on May 28, 2009 at 10:40 p.m. #167
i can beat seth on hardest with all chars except seth, they really balanced him in multi.
Posted by Seth on June 1, 2009 at 2:34 p.m. #168
Become apart of me!
Posted by Seth Pro on June 2, 2009 at 10:47 p.m. #169
Seth is the best character period! There is no argument against that.
Do a fireball? I can do one right back or appear behind you can beat you up with a spin or uppercut.
Jump? Triple uppercut or even more then that!
Hide? Long arm you from a distance.
There is really nothing that can beat Seth theorically!
Of course, a human is slow and makes mistakes, but if one can just execute his move just by thinking about it, Seth dominates all!!!
Posted by Don on June 10, 2009 at 9:52 a.m. #170
In every Street Fighter game there is a character who requires no skill to actually be GOOD with.
Seth is that character. The chains of moves he can pull of are extremely unfair.
Posted by Demonbreeder on June 18, 2009 at 10:16 a.m. #171
Seth is kinda easy to beat in arcade mode,dont understand all the posts about him being impossible to beat, and on medium difficulty its nothing special... And the fact that he takes so much damage makes the matches online fair too.
Posted by sonny on June 18, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. #172
lol so many scrubs bitching about seth hahahaha
and why do his c.lp have such gimped hit boxes
Posted by moe5000 on June 19, 2009 at 9:24 a.m. #173
he is a pain to play against but he is beatable just hit him twice and u win. Atleast he's not as broke as gill
Posted by Kryptic enigma on June 23, 2009 at 6:30 p.m. #174
Sagat is more broken then Seth. @Don you are retarded.
Posted by Don on June 24, 2009 at 9:49 p.m. #175
To Kryptic enigma
Sagat's actually NOT broken. I have a much easier time beating him than Seth. By the way, calling people retarded doesn't prove your point. :D
Posted by Byah! on June 24, 2009 at 10 p.m. #176
lmao @ all the cool kids who think they kick ass because they use Seth.
@Kryptic enigma, you're freaking lame.
Posted by seth guy on June 27, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. #177
i use seth and i dont think i know iam cool BYAH1
i could perfect you to
Posted by ng on June 27, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. #178
I understand how annoying seth can be but i finally got him as a character and his hits and defence are pretty sht so his no where near as good as you've expect him to be compared to when u vs him,he can be fun to play him but i died a fair bit using him and when you vs abel, it will make you want to throw the controll out the window,Saget remains my fav in SF4
Posted by Nemesis on July 4, 2009 at 9:06 a.m. #179
I completed game with All characters (yes, unlocked all by normal way)... Seth isn´t big problem on any difficult with any character. only time when I was thinking about thowring computer out of the window was at unlocking Gkouken, when he finished me with no visible lives.. so again, prefect, three ultra... you know it..
Posted by Ken on July 5, 2009 at 3:46 a.m. #180
Well just played my 1st game of SF4, got through the game with ken on hardest, losing 1 run to seth. i can only conclude that all of you complaining bout seth are lame and should go back to you tekkens and doas
Posted by jamheald on July 5, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. #181
i perfected him with chun-li on hard. hes easy i just cross him up. but tbh i dont like to play as him
Posted by The Captain on July 8, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. #182
Seth seems tough because he can appear unpredictable at times. Personally, I don't think he is no were as near hard as Gill from the SF3 series. I smash Seth with Gief and tons of other characters. I think the only character I had trouble beating Seth with is El Fuerte.
Posted by Roman4328 on July 9, 2009 at 12:28 a.m. #183
Seth Is a monster in the right hands he has all the tools to take care of all players SETH OWNS!!!!!!!! FTW!!!!!!!!
Posted by John on July 11, 2009 at 12:02 p.m. #184
some of you need to use your brains. seth usually gets harder and more crazy on the second round if you beat him the first round. the first round he's more relaxed and thus easier to beat. so set the game to 1 round only and you'll have no problem beating him with any character.
key to beating any boss in fighting games is to learn their patterns. that's what more advanced players do. here's an example, seth likes to do his piledriver move whenever you're closed...so stay at a distance away from him! and learn when to be defensive and when to be offensive...and not try to be offensive all the time. more advanced players should know this.
Posted by serth owns on July 11, 2009 at 7:42 p.m. #185
seth owns these ryu nubs
Posted by . on July 13, 2009 at 6:40 a.m. #186
everyone complaining about seth being difficult to beat in arcade mode gotta suck really hard, I can beat him with FA+throw and repeat it until he is dead on hardest, or just Lariat the entire game with Zangief.
Posted by Dude on July 13, 2009 at 7:05 a.m. #187
Jesus. So much hate for Seth. Yes, you do all suck. Seth CPU is not a difficult match once you realize its flaws. This is not your typical CPU matchup, or matchup period. Be aggressive, but not close range. Simple as that.
Posted by FOCUS ATTACK! on July 13, 2009 at 10:21 a.m. #188
Me and my friends found a really cheap way to beat seth on medium.The first round just K.O him w/e way u want cuz its really easy. Than second round, somehow get him down with either jump HK to crouching HK. Than just keep on focusing attacking him down.When his health drops to his last quarter and the stage starts to flash, jump back and keep on jumping and doing jumping HK and crouching HK. But dont stand near him after u get him down because he will 3X shoruyken(sp?) you or that other move that he kciks you and it looks like ur getting shot.
Posted by Tyler on July 14, 2009 at 1:38 a.m. #189
I hate this game because of Seth, worst boss/character ever created in any video game
Posted by Truth on July 14, 2009 at 11:04 a.m. #190
Yea, i really want to know which characters these guys main.
Ryu and ken players seem to think everyone needs a nerf if they get beat..wow.
Posted by . on July 16, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. #191
@Tyler U hate the game cus u dont like the boss? U gotta be totally retarded.
Posted by Hordak on July 23, 2009 at 2:09 p.m. #192
I also think fighting him is no fun. Sometimes you just can´t escape his ongoing combos when he goes rampage with this high priority. The problem is you can´t switch difficulty during the game. It´s not that hard to beat him on the easiest level (with the wrong character like someone who doesn´t do much damage its tough on the easy level as well though) but then you won´t even get hit by the "normal" guys....that kills the fun additionally
Posted by lolseth on July 23, 2009 at 7:18 p.m. #193
seth's ultra is funny when ur face gets slammed on the screen
Posted by Cranberry Fish on July 28, 2009 at 10 a.m. #194
@John
If you set the game to 1 round, althought it´s easier, seth will go mad on you the firt round.
Also, again I am not saying that beating him is hard but his piledrivers are a dickmove thanks to the priority and his teleports.
Posted by Hobbes on July 28, 2009 at 6:06 p.m. #195
This game is a 9 out of 10 if Seth was not included; with Seth, the game (at least the arcade mode) is unplayable. Seth is a terrible character especially if you made the mistake of playing with a character who has to charge to do his moves like E Honda.
Posted by LSD on July 28, 2009 at 6:36 p.m. #196
what is everyone bitching about? seth is a joke of a boss. i beat him on my 2nd try. all you need to do is sweep kick followed by a dozen more sweep kicks.
Posted by EternalMelody on July 29, 2009 at 9:49 a.m. #197
To all of you that thinks that Seth is a hard boss, you probably have never played Guilty Gear (specifically referring to Slash), or SNK games, or older SF games. He is WAY easier than Gill, Shin Akuma, M Bison 2, Igniz, and so many other bosses (well.. Guilty Gear survival boss (Gold Sol)).
Some tips:
Use Akuma, at the start of the round teleport back, and spam HCB + HP. If he tries to get close with the bounce jump, punish him with a shoryuken.
He doesn't avoid raging demons, so if you do it at a close range he will get hit (the same applies to many other supers/ultras such as Cammy's).
If you can't beat him because you're a casual gamer, then stop being one. You think this is hard? Go play Monster Hunter, or Touhou danmaku games. "I Wanna Be The Guy" is also a good game to catch.
Posted by . on August 1, 2009 at 3:02 a.m. #198
@EternalMelody I couldnt agree with you more, if anyone have trouble beating seth in my opinion they are just scrubby noobs that probably dont even know how to do a ultra.
Posted by deak on August 1, 2009 at 3:15 p.m. #199
i totally agree with the people that say Seth is easy. all u gotta do is learn the patterns like one of the guys up above said. stop bitching and learn how to play
Posted by Really? on August 6, 2009 at 10:44 a.m. #200
Seth is. amazingly easy. You just have to find your main.
For me. Rufus.
Falcon Kick. light punches. messiah. etc.
Posted by seth on August 9, 2009 at 5:56 a.m. #201
u all are sad muppets because u cant beat me
Posted by Artsu Bloodspine on August 12, 2009 at 4:07 a.m. #202
Wow, from the moment I saw the boss I thought of Dr. Manhatten from Watchmen. He was a really pain in the @$$ when I was trying to beat him for the first few times, but you get the hang of the AI if you closely observe his move pattern. It`s not really a pattern but he tends to do the same things over and over again. Good luck fighting him online, I got owned big time :| ( I play with Cammy :D )
Posted by Low stam is good on August 12, 2009 at 9:13 p.m. #203
If you want to beat Seth really easily on hardest, pick Akuma, chill out at max range and use lots of air and red hadoukens (hard red goes through 2 of his sonic booms which is what he normally does when you're at max range). If you manage to stun him, do a demon flip, dive kick, hard punch, light hurricane, hard shoryuken and repeat with fireballs. Try not to let him get close or he'll start his never ending yoga teleport + piledrivers.
Got him first attempt with this method.
Posted by BECOME A PART OF ME! on August 15, 2009 at 8:31 p.m. #204
Seth,yes is very abusive,sooo... PUT THE DANG GAME ON EASIEST AND SPAM LOW KICK!
He is balanced in human players because he has 700 hp. Akuma has 400 more,his attacks crap damage, and because this happens when I play him on human: dhalsim punch=jump in.Lariat teleport = step back and goutatsumaki-senpuu-kyaku. jump-in shoryuken = downward kick. Wall jump= Shoryuken Tanden engine = Raging attacks. Despite this I love seth. best combo- lk,lk,lp,lk(all crouch) then chun-li move OR if blocked standing lk.
Posted by Emmanuel C on August 16, 2009 at 9:35 a.m. #205
Oh my goodness. I did it with Viper on the easiest setting in less than 5 tries. Maybe 2. But when I played medium difficulty with Ryu, it took me like 20 rounds or something. I played from 10 something pm to midnight.
But I'm happy that I beat him. I just used some combos of hadoken, jump and hard kicks and stuff. It took me a long time, but I did it.
I think he's not impossible. We gotta time our attacks well and know when to do what.
You can beat him too!
Posted by wtf.. on August 17, 2009 at 3:08 a.m. #206
Well i play on a keyboard and i've beaten the game on hardest with ryu/akuma...
Posted by YOUR MOTHER! MY NAME IS YOUR MOTHER!! GAH! >.> on August 17, 2009 at 3:50 a.m. #207
Hes...like...awesome.
He has Teleport of Dhal, S. Boom of Guile,Piledriver of 'Gief...
et cetera.
SUCK MY BALLS!
SUCK THEM!
GAH!
Posted by .New. on August 21, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. #208
I finally unlocked him
Posted by Stinkor on August 27, 2009 at 7:34 a.m. #209
Ha. Don't know why so many people are complaining about Seth. I beat him the first time I faced him.
If you haven't yet, then try fighting Akuma in SSF2T HD Remix. Even on easy he's still a bitch. Seth is tame in comparison.
Posted by zappy598 on August 29, 2009 at 5:04 p.m. #210
he only takes alot of damage if chosen by a human player or something the game reconises as a human player (hacks, but it would make it easyer to beat him), example, two throws from abel and his altra's already chrage up, another one and and ANY other move and hes down, period.
after unlocking him i can safely say this is his best psydo combo: tendom engin, backwards throw, and (EX)sonic boom, distence and solid damage.
Posted by yes4me on August 31, 2009 at 8:17 a.m. #211
wow I am starting to play Seth and I don't see Seth the same way as I used to. I think his low health and low damage combo make him risky, with lots of opportunity to combo, and fairly balanced.
Posted by deeznutz on September 1, 2009 at 10:08 p.m. #212
Son of a bi@#% man how do you do seths EX shoryuken????????
Posted by deeznutscantplay on September 2, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. #213
...2 punch buttons just like every EX move in the entire game
Posted by When you think about it.. on September 2, 2009 at 11:16 a.m. #214
Seth sucks so much, it's not even funny.
He can beat you up all night long and one move can take away half of his life bar. You cannot OWN with Seth, even if you think so.
Posted by Seth Player on September 2, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. #215
oh really... ;]
Posted by Kich on September 3, 2009 at 8:24 p.m. #216
Just to clarify something: in the Street Fighter arcade modes (all of them as far as I know) the characters you fight against get not only progressively harder in terms of AI, but harder in terms of health.
I've read some things being like "Zomg why does Seth have such low health he's the boss" <-- it's because he's the boss. By the time you get to him, he has a lot, lot more health.
The same thing applied to Third Strike. Playing against Ryu towards the end of Arcade mode in that game was generally harder than fighting Gill (Gill's AI made him pretty easy to double perfect, all you had to do was a meaty knock-down attack on his wakeup and it's game over, shoryuken spam worked well for it).
Posted by 10lol on September 7, 2009 at 4:57 p.m. #217
its the vvvvvvvvveeeeeeeessssssssttttttt
Posted by fb1907 on September 13, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. #218
First of all i don't think the developers know the meaning of the word easiest.I dont wanna complain but i cant agree with ppl who say seth is easy to beat.If ur a good player or a great player u can beat him but dear good players if it takes a few hours to beat him on easiest level there is something wrong with it.Good players are not objective because it s not that hard for them but if u buy the game and play it for the 1st time or after a long long break and see a boss going crazy on easiest level u may not like it.If i m behind him releasing the focus attack button while he s standing up i wanna repeat behind him and he can grab me to do the pile drive i dont think it wrong to think there is something wrong with it.just maybe it s fukking hard sometimes maybe.i just wanna play with other characters and have to deal with him.You can make him stronger than god on hardest i'm ok with it but on easiest if i cant practise n play i must say it s annoying.Correct me if i'm wrong but the easiest level is not for good players.You can beat him with certain characters i read the comments and didnt see any person saying i kicked the sheet out of seth with el fuerte on hardest or with viper(and she is pretty strong i think)Why dont u try it i bet there are some ppl who did it but dont think it s the majority
Posted by Kawalorn on September 19, 2009 at 10:49 a.m. #219
It seems you havent played any other fighting game. Seth IS easy in comparison to any other Boss especialy because he fights seourisly only in last battle. BTW he isnt a better fighter on hardest the only diffrence is that he fights seourisly from the beggining but you can help that with having only one set in match.
Posted by RSS on September 20, 2009 at 6:52 a.m. #220
I have never played a Street Fighter game before and my only experience with this genre is some casual Killer Instinct on N64 all those years ago. I beat Seth in a couple of tries on Easiest, Very Easy and Easy. Giving Medium a go later today. I was even playing on PC with a keyboard, making it even harder.
You guys must be terrible.
Posted by Kawalorn on September 20, 2009 at 11:02 a.m. #221
Keyboard doesnt make you weaker it only takes longer to master some moves. Thanks to my previous training with Guilty Gear XX i could make any combo except for Vega/Guile's Ultra on Keyboard.
Posted by Average Joe on September 24, 2009 at 3:14 p.m. #222
Personally I don't like Seth, the runaway game is not for me. He is fun against friends when we do random vs random. Only because wall jumps and an amazingly low defense add to the fun. Ultra combos are usually 60% to 70% of his health, namely Sagat's. Beating him WAS hard 100 hours later not so much.
Posted by gg on September 29, 2009 at 8:59 p.m. #223
Seth is a COPYCAT LOSER. "Become a part of me hahahahaha," how gay and pathetic is that ultra. Like stealing other character's moves is so original. What a stupid boring loser. Ken can shoryuken Seth's blue ass anytime.
Posted by Waldemar on October 4, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. #224
Cant beat him on hardest LV. to heavy.....
Posted by Ryu vs Seth AI on October 4, 2009 at 9:07 p.m. #225
Jump+HK. HK. J+HK. HK. J+HK. Down+HK (for variety!). J+HK. HK. Win. Perfect. n.n
Posted by Mike on October 7, 2009 at 3:19 p.m. #226
Some people mentioned that they're having a tough time beating Seth when playing against the CPU in arcade mode. Below is a strategy that will work with any player that makes him a joke to beat.
Strategy:
Become a turtle. I literally want you to low block (down and back) the moment the round starts and try work your way into the corner to prevent him from crossing you up with a teleport attack.
Seth will proceed to attack you like a wild monkey, but it will cause minimal damage because you're turtling. Attacks will include throwing fireballs, disappearing, etc.
When to attack:
There are three times when you will attack: 1) When he tries to jump in on you (any attack that comes out quickly with high priority will do) 2) After he tries to sweep you (sweep him back) 3) After a failed uppercut attempt (sweep him). After you successfully hit him, GET BACK IN THE CORNER and continue to turtle.
Any character can annihilate Seth at any level using this technique.
Posted by WDDV on October 10, 2009 at 2:31 p.m. #227
First off, for everyone saying seth is too hard...this is because he has AMAZING triggers ie he can counter most things you throw at him. This is why turtling against him makes it easy to beat him because he can't punish you on counters...instead YOU'RE punishing HIM with counters. In my oppinion it makes fighting seth very boring, but for those of you that just want the win, thats the way to do it.
Second, for those saying playing as seth sucks...thats because, honestly, you suck with him. At first i thought seth sucked too but later realized that if you know how to execute his moves VERY WELL he's a decent character. He's extremely hard to use but that doesn't mean he sucks. If he had more health and damage he'd be overpowered. And yes, his ultra is pretty gay.
Posted by seth sucks on October 12, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. #228
seth is just a piece of garbage he's impossible to beat on arcade mode, but I don't think a Seth player has ever beaten on line. If they deleted him from SSFIV, the game would be better for it.
Posted by seth sucks on October 12, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. #229
for all you people who say that seth is easy, good for you. You are better at this game than other people. Congratulations. Alas, capcom sold this game to everyone, not just the people who are good at it. the rest of us think seth is too F*cking hard.
Posted by seth-is-cool on October 12, 2009 at 7:54 p.m. #230
seth is amazing wen u know how 2 use him hes a zoner not a rusher and 4 u seth haters ur just mad cause he owned u in arcade mode lmao
Posted by WDDV on October 12, 2009 at 9:41 p.m. #231
@ Seth Sucks
It's pretty rare to find a good seth player online so more often than not you're gonna beat them. But I do agree with you that Capcom sold this game to everyone, I don't think you should have only the option of turtling in order to consistently beat him all the time. I don't have any problems with him as a playable character though.
Posted by Seth on October 15, 2009 at 10:03 p.m. #232
LOL AT ALL YOU NOOBS, BOW DOWN BEFORE ME THIS WONT TAKE LONG.
Posted by asd on October 19, 2009 at 7:46 a.m. #233
if you think seth is hard to play then dont play him easy as that ^^
Posted by Seth/is/nice on October 20, 2009 at 11:16 a.m. #234
Lol Pussys...dont cry guys
Seth is so weak because you can make good combos with him idiots..
add me on PSN:antondeine
and i show you how to play like a pro with seth
Posted by Garuda on October 20, 2009 at 2:24 p.m. #235
I'll play you tomorrow antondeine. I'm trying to learn Seth and it's good to have some mirror matches :)
Posted by SethisEasy on October 27, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. #236
How is seth hard people? The game has been out for a long time by now. All it takes is for you to know how to jump forward and high kick him. Sweep him right after. when he wakes up he's never blocking. So, keep hitting him. Sweeps work. He's the easiest to beat once you jump in hit him sweep him hit him sweep him. This works even if you're so new that you cant even perform a hadoken. It's really that simple people. Stop getting sensitive because other people are telling you Seth is easy to beath. HE'S EASY. try it for yourself and then comment back!!!
Posted by Valter on October 29, 2009 at 7:44 p.m. #237
@58
LOL!!!! HAHAHAHANI66ERHAHAHAHAH!
Posted by Lazar on October 30, 2009 at 6:01 a.m. #238
HI kick ASS
Posted by Lazar on October 30, 2009 at 6:02 a.m. #239
HI kick ASS!!!
Posted by SethsCool on October 31, 2009 at 9:18 a.m. #240
@seth is unoriginal
Welcome to the sf series my friend. So people say Seth is unoriginal yet don't complain about Ken, Ryu, Akuma, Dan, Sakura, Gouken, ect having the same/similar moves? Yeah they're used differently for each character but the same goes for Seth. Seth doesn't just steal characters moves, he used them in his own unique way. Also Seths desigh, "he looks like Dr. Manhattan".. Okay yeah he kinda does but Ryu, Ken, Akuma ect wear the same type of clothes but different colors. Why complain about Seth being unoriginal when the main characters don't have originality themselves?
Posted by @SethsCool on November 1, 2009 at 9:41 p.m. #241
you hit the nail on the head there my friend
Posted by n0-Ha'doh' on November 2, 2009 at 2:01 a.m. #242
if you ever see the 200 ninja characters in mortal kombat you wouldn't think street fighter characters were similar at all.
Posted by Sevga on November 2, 2009 at 1 p.m. #243
I think light blue seth looks like tabuu off ssbb
Posted by SethMeijin on November 6, 2009 at 10:11 a.m. #244
you're make an error, seth can't chain after six hit on the ex dragon punch,cause he can after 7 ,and only when u success the 7 you can chain the ex-tandem !!
Posted by locats on November 7, 2009 at 5:37 a.m. #245
seth is the crappest character, only reason hes good on a computer is because they can be fukin cheap and do moves within the half frame to disrupt ur moves. ive perfected him with sakura, el fuerte, blanka and sagat, loser character, gill kicks his ass hard
Posted by handbanana on November 7, 2009 at 9:16 a.m. #246
Dude red seth at volcanic rim... nasty. hahaha
Posted by =bananaboy on November 21, 2009 at 4:19 p.m. #247
i dont like set his a noob
Posted by arcade on November 21, 2009 at 11:49 p.m. #248
i know this is a lot to ask but please capcom give seth his own and unique fighting style . PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Posted by seth on November 26, 2009 at 10:51 p.m. #249
seth is good the way he is right now
Posted by arade on November 27, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. #250
no he aint.
Posted by remy1337 on November 27, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. #251
YOU CANNOT JUMP IN ON SETH!!!!!!! GUARANTEE TO GET DRAGON PUNCHED,HE SPAMS TELEPORTS, AND FOCUS ATTACKS ALL YOUR MOVES(PLAYING ARCADE)
Posted by crack head on December 3, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. #252
suck it
Posted by LOL you all fail. on December 15, 2009 at 10:52 p.m. #253
The only reason why his so hard is that the update had a problem with it.
It caused seth to be hard even if the mode was chosen as easy.
NOT STOP COMPLAINING LIKE LITTLE BITCHES AND JUST J.HK c.HK REPEAT
Posted by Daz on December 19, 2009 at 2:20 p.m. #254
CHEAP
Posted by seth on December 23, 2009 at 7:41 p.m. #255
@arcade/arade
yeah he is
Posted by ????? on December 29, 2009 at 6:07 a.m. #256
He is strong but you have to have speed to defeat him i killed him with vega and i didnt use any skills cos he can do his strong atks quickly and he can always atk you where ever you are.So i just got him to the floor then started doing hard punches on him. I hope this helps you:)
Posted by Dhalsim on January 4, 2010 at 7:35 p.m. #257
To all you retards who think seth is hard.......go learn how to use strategy. Seth does repetitive combos, you should learn over time how to beat him. I find Zangief more annoying though! his piledriver cannot be overcomed with other grabs! i execute my sumo slams with e.honda and tornado throws with abel at the same time zangief executes his piledriver and his piledriver ALWAYS WINS. talk about a cheap high priority attack!! and vega is annoying as hell too, always flying around the screen like a lil wuss. and the cammy computer on HARDEST only spams her special moves (cannon spike, spiral arrow) Whatevs. this game is good but it gets frustrating with these cheap AI computers that can predict some of ur moves and execute ultras in a millisecond
Posted by @ dhalsim on January 8, 2010 at 4:26 p.m. #258
Totaly agree with you. I can beat Seth on hardest with rose (my main) pretty simply but with some effort.
Also tornado is invunerable to grabs if you execute it before eps you should be sorted. Just need to be psychic.
Posted by Sgf on January 15, 2010 at 4:49 p.m. #259
Seth isn't overpowered, actually. The AI just spamms lame combos, u just normal attack him, out of almost everything... In tournament play, he just gets 1 combo and 50% hp went away... and he isn't on the top of the tierlist...
Posted by setth pwnz on January 29, 2010 at 2:37 a.m. #260
a really good seth user will dominate online
Posted by All_noobs_except_for_me on February 7, 2010 at 12:07 p.m. #261
Seth AI is easy to beat.
The advantage Seth has over Zangief is ridiculous. That needs to be fixed in SSF4. Right now that Match is the most imbalanced in the entire game.
A Zangief player needs to be an exceptionally fantastic player like me, in order to beat a below average Seth.
Posted by Oh Ning Yooh on February 19, 2010 at 9:27 a.m. #262
I love using Seth online.. XBOX LIVE= Oh Ning Yooh... duh
Posted by M BIson(homie) on February 20, 2010 at 7:41 p.m. #263
lol at #11 post julio, seems like capcom listened to this guy when they were deciding what characters to bring in to the game except for ingrid he got em all granted
Posted by Dash on February 28, 2010 at 7:25 p.m. #264
Seth is really good people just don't know, all they need to do is let him be able to take a hit and have better stamina. If they let his ultra do more damage thats extra but Seth does not need that. I will take over everything for him to be able to take a hit with stamina. That would change up things for him big time He would move up the list. Theres no reason for anyone in the game to be so weak and a freakin kick is like two throws. Capcom if you balance the characters fix this.
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