Rose vs. Character Strategies: Street Fighter 4
Last updated on Aug. 22, 2009
Vs. Balrog (Boxer)
A big key to this match is not letting Balrog get easy opportunities to do damage to you, and smart use of your fireball will help prevent that from happening.
So pester the Boxer with Light Punch Soul Sparks. If he uses his Headbutt to go through them, Dash forward and throw him as soon as he comes out of it. Beware of his Turn Punch though.
Use Crouching Medium Punch after you block his Running Punches and apply some pressure with follow up Light Kick Soul Drills.
Note that Balrog has some excellent pokes, so you'll have to be a bit more careful against him when throwing out some of your normals.
When you think he'll go for an EX-Running Punch, throw out an EX-Soul Spark to knock him out of it.
If he gets in close try to gain a little breathing room by jumping away. If he's expecting you to jump back, use Crouching Medium Punches with Soul Drills to push him back and then jump away. Then start throwing Soul Sparks again.
Also your Crouching Hard Kick has more range than any of Balrog's normal attacks, so if he's Crouched and throwing out a bunch of normals to try and catch you, sweep him and go for a cross up attack.
Vs. Blanka
You can punish Blanka's Beast Roll on block with your Ultra — but the key is you must be standing in most cases to do so.
The frame or so it takes you to stand when crouching will cause you to miss your Ultra when trying to punish a blocked Beast Roll, and many Rose players mistakenly assume they cannot punish this move.
If you don't have Revenge Meter, use Standing or Crouching Light Punch to knock him out of his Beast Roll and then go for a cross up, or use your Fireball to create some space.
Vs. Honda
Use a lot of Soul Sparks in this match. Honda is really tough to beat up close, so you want to push him away with your fireballs at every possible chance.
When he jumps in, if you're pretty far under him use a Crouching Hard Punch to knock him back and as soon as he lands make him block another Soul Spark.
If you're not in position to anti air him with Crouching Hard Punch, set up your Soul Throw.
Again keep your distance and jump away when he tries to Oicho Throw you. Make him work to get inside.
Vs. Vega (Claw)
You can effectively ground Vega's Wall Dive tactics with Rose. When he's hopping off the wall and some what far away from you, either jump in the air with Medium Punch or use a Soul Throw.
When he's directly above you after diving, use Crouching Hard Punch, and if he's to the side, go low and use a Crouching Medium Punch, which has a surprisingly high hit box.
Using these tactics will make it very difficult for Vega players to consistently apply pressure to you with his Wall Dive.
Vs. Zangief
Rose's Toward + Hard Kick command will beat Gief's Lariat clean each time if you do it from the proper distance. This thing has a surprisingly amazing range, because your foot can hit Zangief's outstretched arms.
Avoid executing this though if he's some what close in, because if you try this from too close, you'll likely trade hits and doing so is always in Zangief's favor because not only does he do more damage, but he'll also score a knock down.
So keep your distance as much as possible. Throw a lot of Light Punch Soul Sparks to pester Gief, using your anti air and ground game to maintain distance. Jump back or straight up when he gets too close for comfort.
Also, don't get too predictable with your foot games or Fireballs from mid to close range, because Gief can hit you right out of these moves while his Lariat is starting up, or blow through them with an EX-Green Glove.
Use your Ultra to catch him when he gets predictable with his jump in attacks, or does a Lariat too closely to you.
Posted by xearo death on February 25, 2009 at 6:24 a.m. #1
i need more like this, cause i have a hard time against obviously Sagat, they need to tone him down, ALOT!, he has no weaknesses at all and massive advantages to the lower tiers
Posted by NeXus on February 25, 2009 at 11:53 a.m. #2
Need a vs. Gief matchup. Rose can't seem to touch him. I tried her drills but the lariat always knocks it away.
Posted by BeWaRe on February 26, 2009 at 12:02 a.m. #3
yup, we need some for every character. We need a total break down for every character. Rose FTW
Posted by xMcBLACKx on February 26, 2009 at 4:24 a.m. #4
for gief:slide for the lariat, and just poke with st.HK or >HK
try stay away from SPD's and learn her normals well
sagat is just cheap
Posted by johnnyblue100 on February 27, 2009 at 6:44 p.m. #5
sagat, get in close with her slide when he does high tiger shots. he will probably try a tiger uppercut or tigershot, block counter with down MP and soul spiral then aura soul spark if you have it.
sagats game is to 'keep you away'. gettin close with the slide and pressurizing him works for me all the time. either slide then throw or slide and down+MP
and sagat isnt cheap, every1 has theor own style =]
Posted by eViL-LiNk on March 20, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. #6
Sagat isn't cheap, he's just really good. It still takes skill to play him, or any char for that matter. The trick is to learn your char well, then u can learn to beat others. and zangief is easy to beat with rose just poke n prod with crouching M punch or crouching high kick when he lariats. When he comes out of the lariat he might to try sweep you so use standing high kick, it goes over his, combo with a standing high punch which has good range
Posted by SF4 MONSTARZ on March 20, 2009 at 10:56 p.m. #7
Rose's backdash is her best non damaging move!! works good 4 me 2 setup 4 the lk + mk drills. (against whiffed tiger shots) if opp. suspects a drill mix up soul spark or reflect 4 tiger shots.
along with this, mastering the art of Rose's Focus Attack FA is on the way 2 being really dangerous!! sets up 4 ultra, super or just to soak that projectile you werent quick enough to reflect. if sagat likes 2 link into his specials sometimes a quick FA tap can catch those slower sweeps mp, or mks
sagat isn't unbeatable...believe me!! He can't handle well planned pressure very good and he's big n slow on the ground!!!
...sorry sagat...=(
Posted by yflow on March 28, 2009 at 2:08 p.m. #8
Standing MK and towards + HK beat lariat clean. Those are two very good moves to use against gief, and I think they'd make good additions to these notes.
Posted by tvn714 on May 11, 2009 at 6:58 p.m. #9
You can beat Gief with fireballs and vertical jumps with coming down with a fierce with rose. Try to stay in the air most of the time jumping back and jumping up. Her sweep is extremely effective against his fireball absorbing move. Once you knock him down, always get back to position yourself for a light punch fireball.
Posted by speedowa on June 2, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. #10
Just a tip against Bison/Dictator that's worked well for me. I used to have a hard time against him, but then I started using the back dash when he tried the head stomp. If you have an Ultra saved up, you can back dash and get him with the Ultra, or just a sweep.
Just be careful of the fake head stomp, you still won't get hit with the back dash, but don't burn up an Ultra!
Posted by ED on August 17, 2009 at 7:23 a.m. #11
Any help with Sagat?
Posted by Stop Complaining about Sagat on August 24, 2009 at 1:14 p.m. #12
Sagat is not a cheap character if you know the character well. For all the people who constantly say Sagat's cheap, maybe if you take the time to learn the character you may able to beat a good Sagat. I first thought Sagat was cheap but after learning and using him, he's really not. There are flaws about Sagat. For one, he's slow as hell as far as his walking and dashing speeds. His crossover move is crap because it's very difficult to combine into anything. His focus attack has no range. Finally he's consider a tall character. Fighting Giefs who spams his laterat in front of you is very difficult to counter since laterat hits three times now and Sagat can't crouch under it (it never before). To beat turtling Sagats you basically have to play a projectile game with him. Occassioanlly mix up with a ex projectile to go through his normal fireball. Then move in if Sagat's hit with the second hit of your ex projectile. Crouching under his high tiger shots works also. Jump in with a fierce or roundhouse sometimes can counter Sagat's standing roundhouse (his anti-air counter other than Tiger Uppercut). If Sagat pulls off his standing roundhouse late your jumping fierce / roundhouse should counter.
Posted by Don on September 19, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. #13
I'm really glad this was made cause most of the time, it's impossible to win with Rose unless the other guy is throwing stuff.
Posted by Rotarrius on October 10, 2009 at 3:02 a.m. #14
Thanks for this. i really enjoy using lower tier charcters and this really helped. But i have to agree that when playing a skilled Sagat - it's damn near impossible to win!
Posted by ShadowBison on November 29, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #15
what about vs c.viper match up? never heard anyone saying anything about this matchup? i think this match up is harder than sagat , its near or no its impossible to win against a very pro viper, i cant even hit her or soul trew her or anything and almost game over when i get knocked down becasuse rose has no answer for vipers cross up game or infact almost any of her special move , i so many times i cant do any presure games here !!! i feel i m on pressure allthe time near,mid or far in screen its all pressure , please i need a very good strategy about this fight
Posted by Sean on December 14, 2009 at 6:34 a.m. #16
In SF alpha 1, Rose used to pawn Sagat, reflect comes to mind, but in SF 4... WHY did they have to nerf reflect, why??
plus, woul dn't it be awsome if her soul spark's scarf could land an extra hit at point blank? (Considering her projectile is weaker and harder to do then other character's)
Posted by James on January 7, 2010 at 4:21 p.m. #17
It's not harder to do. It's a half circle fir crying out loud! And it's not weaker. Although it is worse. And yes her reflect should be better. Rose should be impervious to projectiles not just poorly timed ones. I hope it gets a buff in ssf4.
Posted by FamousAmos on January 12, 2010 at 5:33 p.m. #18
Rose players should play keep away against Sagat players. That means throwing alot of soul sparks/ex sparks and backing up. Reflect and absorb anything he throws at you while mixing in your own fireball of course. If he is a complete idiot, he will continue to throw out tiger shots. But if he's smart, the Sagat player will be forced to try and close the distance. When he closes in, bait his tiger uppercuts by staying within poke range and punish him when he does it. Mix in some quick slide throws and out poke him(trust me Rose has great pokes). Rinse and repeat this until you win the match.
I main Rose in SFIV, and I almost never lose to Sagat players.
Posted by James on January 13, 2010 at 9:44 a.m. #19
I find that it's best to just give up reflecting against sagat (I saw Sanford playing rise and he got down on heth trying to reflect them so I think this justifies it) most sagats online are scrubs. They throw poorly timed projectiles all the time just jump them, combo them cross them up on wake up. More advanced players you'll have to reflect and use slides.
Posted by FamousAmos on January 13, 2010 at 11:09 p.m. #20
Was he reflecting them more than absorbing them, because that would have made a big difference in the match if he did. If you can't reflect them back at Sagat that well, then maybe its best to just absorb them. The absorption last longer on screen than either the mp or hp reflects. and it builds your super meter faster also.
I play a very defensive Rose. So I take the time to make sure that no fireballs will ever hit me at all. I also try and reflect and absorb every thing a fireball spammer throws out. For one it makes them doubt their own strategy. and two, it throws off them off their game if I consistantly get the best of them.
Posted by Hiro on January 16, 2010 at 5:54 p.m. #21
ok i have a question. i have been using her pokes and all but what should u do against ken and ryu? its kinda hard to keep them off of me especially wen they do their famous foward jumps at the beginning of the match. its hard to use zoning techs on ken and ryu. please and thanks
Posted by FamousAmos on January 20, 2010 at 2:22 p.m. #22
Its not hard at all Hiro. Alot of it comes from predicting if they will try and jump in on you, or baiting them into jumping in. Try back dashing, doing this will let you see if your opponent will try and close the gap by jumping or dashing/walking in. If they are the jump happy type, then the next time you dash backwards use your soul throw right after.
Even at the beginning of the match. If they jump right at you as you say, use your soul throw as soon as the match starts. Or you can try the focus attact at the start of the match. If they don't jump right in, just cancel it.
But as I said before, just try and use your soul throw more. Its a bit of a risk if you whiff it. But if you learn to predict what your opponent is going to do next it can work wonders.
Posted by mutsu_kenichi on February 28, 2010 at 7:30 a.m. #23
I dunno why but when I use Rose, it seems that I can predict my opponent's jump. Of course I'm gonna Soul Throw him lol. I really enjoy playing Rose
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