Thanks alot! I will get on it... Got all titles now too except merciless... 16 more chip wins to go and i'll hopefully have 100%.
this is not really a helpfull chart, i reflects well, bison, vega or gief who dont "combo" that much, now take ryu or chun-li for exemple, their light punch doesn't cause 30 damage, it opens the way for an ultra, now replace the moves damage with the guaranteed damage it opens the way for and you'll have a much more intresting chart where ryu is not abysmal but holds a place closer to his own.
even then it would not reflect how godlike it is to have your opponent having to guess whether you laucnh a meaty lariat, or a meaty undodgable command SPD, that is just an example among a lot of others. this game is deeper thean just comparing strengh of a few moves.
mjcd #127
NO!! Some characters have ultras that would be too all-embracing if they were put together!
True, it would be cool to have both ultras at the same time - you could sometimes see moves like Ryu's ultra2 that nobody uses in a competitive play - but the game would have to be designed for that from the beginning.
@the_frog_splash_lives
I recently bought Madcatz TE stick for $90 and I love it! (I broke couple of fightpads earlier and got pretty pissed off). The TE (Tournament Edition) uses original sanwa parts (that are used in SF arcade cabinets), so it should be very durable. You gotta wait for a deal though... cause normally TE costs around $140!
There are cheaper sticks too. There is a MadcatzSE edition and Haori - they shouldn't cost more than $50-70. I also heard of Peawang Evolution that supposedly works on PS3/XBOX360 and PC and costs about the same. I don't know how good they are though...
Did you check the section on sticks here at eventhubs? You should find good info there! Cheers!!
the gameplay on this is so crap it unexplainable
the gameplay too fast
the movement all wrong
the facial expressions are wrong
on all streetfighters sagat has taken his opponents of the camera when giving them a tiger uppercut
BISON!! is a let down why is he so easy to defeat on super nitendo when you gave him a dragon punch he would still be standing...
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY BELOVED GAME SNK VS CAPCOM2 BEST GAME EVER
STREET FIGHTER 4 IS A PILE OF SH*T JUST LIKE PRO IS NOW YOU ARE DESTROYING STREETFIGHTER FIX UP
@131 I do... I use him the most & I've run into some others.
ssf4 is a great game. It has the good stuff from sf4 + improvements. The only thing i think is wrong with ssf4 is that you cant hit them after KO, lol. it was fun pounding some opponents after KO..
Also, is there an option to put on handicap settings in endless? it seems like you cant...
@ chickenwings u are a smart man... that would make this game so much better in many ways as long as they varied the amount of guard meter the characters had, kinda like stamina variations. I cant believe i havent heard someone say that yet. Regardless this game is still amazing just a guard meter would do wonders for this game.
OdinReborn, I appreciate the effort and time you put into that. Even though I don't play Sagat much, the information is always helpful. :]
@OdinReborn
I'd be happy to play against you, but I'm on XBL. :[ Oh, and I started maining Sagat. Go figure. And yeah, I hear Gouken's a pain.
I use a stick, personally. I got one recently and have grown so used to it that it feels weird to play any game moving around with the 360 controller's joystick. And well, the 360 controller has a garbage d-pad. I feel quite comfortable using the PS2/3 d-pad for Soul Calibur and the like.
Incidentally, I love Galaga. Wahahahaha.
I'll be on XBL today. If anyone wants to help me practice my SSF4 skills, my gamertag is ImTheChankiest.
^^ didnt I beat you yesterday? Aint you an Akuma crossup fiend! And I still smacked you!
@Meety If you're at the stage where you honestly believe in what you call "spamming" then you need to learn how projectiles operate in the game. A challenging player will use whatever works, if you can't get around fireballs they won't handicap themselves for you.
@155
"OH GODD NO DAN TRHEW A GADOKUEN AT MEE WUT DO I DO OMG OMG FK FK SPAMER SPAMMR!!!!!!!//"
@157
DOOD WAT U TLAKIN ABUOT THEIRS NO SYCH THING AS LP OR MP DP!!!!1 NOOB!!!!!!11 OLNY DP IS HP DP WEAR KENS HAND ON FIER. IM SO PRO BTW I MAIN KEN SO PLAY ME MY ID IS XFLAMEDARGONSASUKE292 BUT I ONLY PLAY ONE ROUND MATCH AND U CATN SPAMM FIERBALL PLZ
Finally got the C 2 shining C trophy today So happy I can go back to playing characters I enjoy online and I'll never have to play a shoto again.
@ Odin grabs are set up by being close actually. Take Abel for example his rolls may not cross up but it does confuses to place him right in your face at all times for a grab. Zangief cross up command grab is only for mix ups similiar to Able u can walk up and do 360's with him for a grab. To set it up is to hide it anyway you can by dashing in empty jumps and so on it all on your for every character...even tick throws i.e cr.lp into normal grab can be switched with cr.lp into Able TT ya get it?
ive been playing rose for a few days and i know this is from pros but rose is higher.
I hope Alex gets in this game, just think of the the mix up pontential, it would be similar to abels, although i don't main abel i like his stratergies, it was his look and personality that put me off so i didnt really use him much. I'd imagine Alex would have to lose atleast 1 special move like spiral d.d.t because that was barely useful and he'd have to move a little like abel (movement speed) and have good pokes, I don't really mind if he doesn't have much combos as he's most likey going to do a good amount of damage just from his specials and normals ..... anywho this is just what i hope from Alex if he is put in the ssf4 cast
Odin, you should just do an all-out Sagat guide, super in-depth. Nyeheheheh
@165
Yun and Yang lacking pages makes SOME sense for now, since they're not available anywhere besides testing areas (or so it seems)
but i want that re-vamped page for the other characters that have been around for a while. idk why they even started with Adon, nothing against him, i like him and use him as an alternate to my main... but it would be nice to see that re-vamped Vega (my main) page lol. of course certain characters should have had them too (although idk if they actually do have it yet), like ryu, ken, chun li, etc.
but to be honest, the entire sf4 could and should be redone for ssf4, in that "re-vamped" way, IMO.
@Odin
Keep it up, pal.
@170
I assume that they did Adon first because... Either the writer mains Adon, or the previous page on Adon was terrible. Wouldn't know.
@Odin
I think jf.MP should be on the list of normals. :D
Existent is right #154, using the term spam as an excuse for your inability to deal with a players repeat usage of a particular move or technique clearly means that you lack/undestand key elements of the game.
Each character has strengths, these stregths must be used so you can attain victory, Sagat wasn't given a fireball so you can stand there and Jab on the spot all day. He has the fastest fireball in the game, its supposed to be used to overwhelm your opponent, to trap them in the position you want, whilst his fireball is faster than others, his weakness lies in the fact that he is quite a large character and when performing a fireball a large portion of his body (his arms) are exposed, making it easy to hit him from a distance if you successfully jump the fireball.
If you lose to the repeat use of a move or technique, study it's properties, understand its priorities and then find moves with your character that can be used to counter/defeat your opponents moves, this is a fundamental of any good fighting game.
If you're playing a shooter and you repeatedly get shot in the head and killed, you don't say " he's spamming me with head shots" because your opponent is doing what is required (and expected) to defeat you and is doing it in an effective and efficient way that requires skill, the same rule applies in a fighting game.
You may argue that performing a fireball does not require much skill, and this would be correct, knowing when to alternate the speed of the fireball, judging the perfect range at which you should be when throwing the fireball and simply knowing when NOT to use a fireball does however require skill and knowledge. So chances are if you are defeated by someone "spamming" fireballs they are doing all of the above to keep you at bay.......or it simply could be that you are crap
Question? Does anyone know about information for super street fighter 4 online tournaments?
I love how people underestimate Zangief's and yet do not have the slightest clue how to use him to his highest potential.
Good lord this game is difficult. It seems like people do this for a living because I keep getting my ass handed to me. I simply don't understand how to do stuff like cancelling, or how to use the dash or focus attack. Is there a SSF4 for retards somewhere where I can try to get some of this stuff?
#185
Try doing the challenge trials with all the characters to help you with learning the moves, and train yourself not to mash. Also watch the streetfighter tutorial on vesperarcade's youtube channel- it explains how to use complicated features in the game such as focus attacks, dashing and cancelling.
gen combo video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piSuWO...
Fireballs should be useless just like in the perfect game that is SF3. Don't dare speak against SF3 because it's better in every way than every game because it's so 1337. SF4 is mainstream corporate garbage that everyone likes so I automatically hate it. Capcom used to be cool and only make 2D (i.e. SUPERIOR) games just like SF3 when they were just a small company of 5 people.
What? Capcom was a large company when SF3 was released? I didn't hear that and you can't make me. Everything was better before now and nothing will ever change the fact that video games are abominations now and everybody thinks so. What? HOW many people bought Street Fighter 4? They don't count.
ANYWAY as I was saying, everybody obviously agrees with me (not that I can find any examples right now), so stop being horrible Capcom and put a REAL fan in charge as CEO. I know exactly what to do: Re-release SF3. What? They're already doing that? HOW DARE THEY RUIN THAT GAME WITH THEIR FILTHY--
???? @ Shareware
Why would you want fireballs to be useless, this isn't Tekken or Soul Calibur, or Dead or Alive, since the dawn of Streetfighter fireballs have been a primary part of the games mechanics and players tactics, if you want to profess that you think Capcom was 'cool' when they only made 2d games why don't you refer to the original games that started it all.......like SF 2 World Warrior and Turbo and Super and Super Turbo, these were the classics, these were the games that started a generation of fighters.
So if you want to get real technical, SF 4 and SSF 4 are the closest the game has been to its original roots in a long time, i'm not knocking SF 3, but it was a different game, it played much differently.
Certainly there are people who jump on the band wagon and 'like' SF 4 just because everyone else does, which is crap, but as someone who has played the series since World Warrior,(which i suspect you never have)i am of the opinion that SF 4 has been Capcoms best release since Turbo(highly regarded as the best fighting game of the period and one of the best fighting games of all time.
So i'm pretty sure any other player out there who has played the series from its dawn would agree with me.
I've followed the series through all its changes from Alpha to EX (the rather crappy 3d version)to 3rd strike and enjoyed all of the games, but somewhere along that journey Capcom lost sight of the ball and streetfighter lost its essence, but it has been re-born and brought back with it that 'classic' feel and a dash of new age completing the package.
So before you disregard a fundamental feature of the game that has played a major role since its creation i recommend you consider how you view the game, because clearly you don't seem to have an understanding of what made the game what it is today......... but i'm just old school so don't take offence to this.
any advice for elf ? tried the character boards but can't post for some reason . am b ranked but have hit a plateau so am looking for any advice / mentoring. much appreciated if any of you guys can help.
@191
Yes. OH so hard.
@190
I'll let you in on this one:
My entire post was sarcastic. I was poking fun at 3rd Strike elitists with a rather LARGE dose of cheekiness. Don't worry, I'm not insane. In fact, I think a lot like you do, and have been playing just as long. Hell, call me crazy, but I even found the EX series somewhat TOLERABLE.
ahhh i do apologise, it can be somewhat hard to spot sarcasm in text form.
I get quite wroked up over the whole fireball thing! ever since Alpha i was mortified at how useless fireballs became, being hit by a fireball had the same value as blocking one in the past games, coupled with the fact that you could air block them aswell it made fireballs nothing more than a defensive keep away tool, to me it changed the game too much, people could jump around like monkeys without a worry in the world and if heaven forbid they landed on a fireball and didn't happen to air block, the damage was so ridiculously minimal they didn't care.
There was a very satisfying factor to tricking your opponent into landing on a fireball through varying speeds and what not, for a long time it has been absent from the series, so i'm happy fireballs have atleast regained some of there usefullness again.
i again apologise for mistaking you for an emo deusch bag with no understanding of the game hahahah
Daaaaaaaamn so much paragraphs!!!!!! @_@
Here's an idea for DLC to SSFIV:
Each console stores the number times you've played against an online opponent. Then, on the screen that says, "Which of these two will walk away a champion," it could display how many times you've defeated and lost to the online opponent. Good idea?
best and insightful website ill ever goto great info and most of its not from someone just playing for a little bit and then righting a strategy guide theres actuall player tips here so keep it going and looking foward to ae and mvc3 stuff
@ #199
That is a pretty cool idea. Set up mind games before the match even begins. "He beat me 7 times? I'M A WORTHLESS PIECE OF **** AND NO ONE LIKES ME!!!!" then BAM... cancer.
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Guys I just got SSF4 AE on disc it's da same exact thingnif undownloaded it don't botherngetting the cd
Got AE yesterday, gotta say I'm pretty disappointed. Basically in online you end up playing only Yun and Fei players, who I can now officially say are OP. The lower tiered characters I play with (Vega and Juri) didn't really get much out of the balancing and Surprise surprise, get rammed pretty by the S tier guys. Vanilla was great, Super was ok, AE is not so good.
OK one thing is driving me crazy, how come I always kick CPU Cammy's ass on XBOX on Hardest, and I usually win Human Cammy players, but I she always wipes the floor dust with on in SFIV on iPhone? What is wrong?!!! I sometimes keep losing for a week (rage-quitting then continuing later) before I can defeat her!
@Dark_Fantom #214, dude what are you talking about? I get rammed by a lot of other characters! :) no seriously, characters of all kinds are all over the place, AE is wonderful. You should go to challenge mode and execute all the combos from there, you should get better after finishing those.
Why do we want easy fights? if yun is OP then find ways around it. I fought some good yuns in my local community with my Fei and did quite well.
@ yun1989 #187
Do they really need to release AE on the 3DS? There's always Super Street Fighters IV. Infact,if AE was coming up,they might as well release that one INSTEAD of Super Street Fighter IV. That and personally. That game make Charge characters cheap. All I see is Guiles,Blankas,And E-Hondas.
Has enybody had a problem with the latest update for SFIV ps3 or is it me ?
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This game would be better with a little Poison and a large amount of Hugo . . . MY SFXT TEAM OF THE CENTURY!
Hey Eventhubs, can u guys update the frame data info? Thanks in advance
Chk out this vid from Zhang he.Air Ryu vs Brett Pexx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh4Dy...
I'll say my top 5 Chars of this game [based on gameplay, personality, appearence, moves, etcetera].
5. Cammy/Chun Li (Same Overall Stats)
4. Hakan/Dhalsim (Same Overall Stats)
3. C. Viper
2. Ryu/Ken (Same Overall Stats)
1. Juri/Ibuki/Sakura (Same Overall Stats)
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