I want to add some tips to guess comments. You DO NOT NEED to excecute the movement right after another movement to make it work. If you are doing another movement in my case it does not matter what rotation I use as soon as I do it quick enough. e.g. if you are executing a green glove just do a quick rotation 540 of the stick and the SPD or the ultra will be performed anyway. The problem is when you are not doing anything. Let us think about the big shoryuken from Ken, then you get cover and outstand the hit. If you catch Ken with a spinning piledriver at the moment he is going down you will grab him without any possible defense. Then you stand up, walk to Ken and then execute the spinning piledriver or the ultra in the way guess said. the point is not hitting any jumping point in the first movement of the stick, but going down. Same if you are going back while your opponent is coming to you and then he is in range for an spinning piledriver, then you will do the movement in the following way: b, db, d, df, f,uf, u, ub, b and Gief will not jump. In any case the circle have to be quick enogh to avoid Gief to jump.

My personal experience. Hope this helps.

#270 Nice I'll try this today!

In Soviet Russia, Lariat SPAMS YOU!!!

Dudes you need to see this Zangief song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk45TJ...

any one know any good moves to buffer zangiefs ultra

dequann:

taunt

whiff green hand

standing hard kick over crouched opponent

jump

crouching MK as opponent is getting up

harder ones are things like crouching LK

@273

That was so retarded, that it was good LOL.

anyone like ultra 2

For anyone that wonders, Zangief is still the strongest character in Super Street Fighter 4. I did a move by move comparison of Zangief vs T. Hawk and Gief is stronger on most of the moves. It took a while, but I did all the punches and kicks, all the special moves, and the Super/Ultras.

Zangief T. Hawk
Total Standing Damage 515 485
Total Crouch Damage 470 470
Total Jump Damage 510 525
Total Grapple Damage 490 460
Strongest Special Move 240 230
Super 450 430
Ultra 1 520 510
Ultra 2 450 450

Yo! Zangiefs what do you think of Gief on SSFIV? I feel is a little bit faster but you all know lariat is not the lariat it used to be. Just got the game yesterday and could only hit 1 Siberian Blizzard I also tried to Focus then Siberian Blizzard but It just wont grab the opponent from the ground ( I saw this on a video it actually grabbed it) will keep on playing and post how to effectively use Siberian.

I posted something similar to this on the Siberian Blizzard setup video post, but I'll post it here as well.

Zangief's Ultra II can be launched from the ground by doing a 1080 spin on the arcade stick. Unless hit DIRECTLY on the top of his head, it will connect against anything where his opponent's are not on the ground.

For example: Ibuki's overhead kick, Chun-Li's crossover kick/backflip light kick, Guile's upside down kick/hovering long kick/hovering knee kick, Abel's wheel kick, Dhalsim's yoga teleport/yoga mummy etc. I've grabbed people from the ground while doing these attacks and it will connect every time. That being said, the amount of screen he covers is extremely limited compared to launching it in the air and this tactic is brutally punishable if he whiffs.

I'm still working to perfect this strat because it requires absolute perfect timing, but once you land one of these from the ground your opponent will play it safe for the rest of the game! =)

@280

For clarification (and after looking them up), these are the exact attacks you can ground launch against I mentioned in my previous post:

Ibuki: Overhead hammer kick (F + MK), Jumping splits kick (F + HK)
Chun-Li: Flip cross-up kick (DF + HK), Rear spin kick (DF + LK)
Guile: Knee bazooka (F/B + LK), Rolling sobat (F/B + MK), Reverse spin kick (F/B + HK)

Thanks NRR!

UPDATE:

So I've been toying around with Siberian Blizzard a lot more and have had some interesting discoveries.

*Siberian Blizzard will NOT grab Makoto after she launches her focus attack. Her feet aren't on the ground, but the game must be convinced they are.

*A stationary EX air Hurricane Kick will put someone out of range of Siberian Blizzard. I launched it and my opponent (as Ryu) jumped and did an EX kick above me and wasn't grabbed. However he didn't hit me.

*Adon can be grabbed while doing a ground launched Jaguar Kick, however timing is extremely crucial since he's not in the air for very long. Similarly, you can grab him while doing a Jaguar Tooth but you have to wait until AFTER he leaves the wall, again timing is extremely crucial there.

If I had a method of recording this stuff, I'd post it in an instant for all the Gief enthusiasts out there... But I promise this stuff is legit. Once you learn how to launch Siberian Blizzard, you'll NEVER pick the Ultimate Atomic Buster again. After you've proven to your opponent Ultra II will come out if their feet aren't on the ground, Gief gets a free pass while in the air.

This guy ruins me. I have the hardest time fighting Zangief compared to the rest of the cast... but I guess it's my own fault for making costly mistakes and taking too many risks. Honestly, I'd rather fight Sagat!

NRR, how are you launching this from the ground? Are you doing it on wakeup? I only got it to launch after a taunt, I was just amamzed it worked. Tried to get it to come out after a c.mk but can't get it in fast enough. Will try again.

@ RidingTheHorse

Launching Siberian Blizzard on wakeup is definitely the easist execution, but there are a number of ways to launch: after a dash, after standing HK, or after practically any of Zangief's attacks. After a FADC folling a blocked Banishing flat, I dashed forward and managed to catch my opponent during a jumping retreat. Essentially the more creative you are with Ultra II execution, the more often you'll connect it.

The trick I've discovered to ground launching involves a 1080 (4 full rotation) spin on the arcade/analogue stick. The principle behind this is to intentionally whif a 720 grab forcing Zangief into a jump and by spinning the stick an additional 2 times, Ultra II will activate immediately after leaving the ground.

*Siberian Blizzard Connection Update*
*Vega (Dictator) cannot be grabbed while performing either the regular or EX scisscor kick. I haven't had a chance to try it against the Knee Press Nightmare or Psycho Crusher yet, however you can grab him directly after launching the Psycho Punisher (if you ground launch).

Thanks NRR.

I switched to U2 after talking to a friend an catch Rog with the U2 and a Bison a few times. Gief's ground game is press well covered so the option of grabbing someone out of the air is just too good to pass up.

Will definite work on that U2 ground launch. I've only done it in training but I only use it now so I've forcing myself to get used to it. REALLY want to see if I can get it from a c.MK. I like to train my opponents to jump after it and if I could get the U2 to connect after it would just be crazy good.

I need some advice, I am trying to find a main character worth keeping. I recently started playing Zangief, but I need some solid tips against certain characers. Ryu is the first the majority of the time I take damage against Ryu is when he is jumping in with a kick, I believe its j. HK. I lariat at the perfect time, but I don't even get the trade. Just wondering is their another anti-air move that I can use to destroy people with? or do I just need to work on my spacing? Other one is Sagat. What is the best way to work into Sagat.

@ Morgan24

The problem with those 2 characters is their unfair zoning game against Zangief. Ryu doesn't seem like he has that advantage, but most of his regular attacks can zone Zangief pretty effectively.

To deal with Ryu's jumping game you have a few options:
1) Dash back and catch him with a LP SPD (Spinning Pile Driver). Any other strength will whiff.
2) Focus break and absorb the first hit, dash back and EX Banishing Flat if he tries to do pretty much anything.
3) Block the air kick and grab immediately after he hits the ground. Timing is crucial here since you only have a couple frames to grab him. ALWAYS LP SPD this one, MP and HP are too slow.
4) If he's far enough away you can simply hit him with a standing HK, that works very well for anti-air.
5) Block the air kick and while blocking input the atomic power bomb command, this will only work if he jumps in REALLY close to you.

Strictly using the lariat in that situation will make the Ryu player constantly try that approach on you since it makes Zangief so vulnerable, so you have to mix it up. In general you should be avoiding the lariat unless you have plenty of room to whiff it for meter, or are trying to catch the counter attack.

Against Sagat my only suggestion is to be patient. Since most Sagat players are only capable of spamming F.HK, Tiger Shots and Uppercuts, you have to watch their pattern. If he does a high Tiger Shot, do a C.MK under it to gain ground. If he threatens with the lame HK or F.HK, do the long trip. You can also catch him with a J.HP, but that's a much riskier approach. Once you're in range to hit him, standing MP is your best friend. It will hit him through either standing or crouching tiger shots, through the HK and even through non-EX Tiger Knees (timing is difficult there though and you'll eat a hit). Otherwise you need to work on your patience and your zoning game.

Hope this was helpful.

Hi I just bought this game on July 6 for my birth day and its freaking awesome. Zangief is really freaking amazing and is a power house. He can pull of all those freaking grabs like no ones business he is the man. I use too play Tekken 6 and took me a long time too learn and remember all my fave characters moves and there juggles. Not to mention there 10 hit's but god damn this game. I just picked it up glanced at Zangief's command list and too my suprise was pulling of combos in just 10mins. But both of the games are bad ass but F@#k zangiefs he is awesome he can just do banishing flat followed by his Ultra or knock the guy down follow it with a focus attack and then Ultra really bad ass stuff rite there Zangief's the man. Also this site was really helpful helped me pull of zangiefs moves more fluently that and a Mad Catz SSF4 fight pad LOL

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Bring back Gief's air dash throw from Alpha!

and his air throw from Super Street Fighter 2!!?!?

here is a clip showing how input leniency applys to gief's moves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azqpby...

Nothing I haven't seen before.... Ultra 2 they should make it so you can Lariat FADC dash ultra2 it should be able to connect. I wish capcom, let us Giefs be able to execute that but they decided not to make it be able to connect.

Don't run... you look like a coward even if you do win. The only reason to run is if you don't know how to stop the Z Man. For all you turtles and spammers out there, you are just making me angry, and you don't wanna see me when I'm angry. Points are just hollow if you get them by running away and you don't actually learn how to defend yourself and fight like a man. You are just supporting your weakness... oh yeah and I will catch you regardless and punish you. To all the people out there willing to stand and fight, much respect to you and I will never complain if I get beat, at least you earned it.

This has worked for me a million times online..... if you land the regular green glove, most players will NEVER see an SPD right after. i took down a T.Hawk user by doing that 3 times. its pretty embarrassing when you take out T.Hawk's humongous health in roughly 30 seconds. Zangief rules.

Yo Zangiefs! How would you rather play Gief in a tournament stick or pad? I currently use pad since I dont have a stick but I rather play on a stick than a pad, I notice that on a Pad nobody will hear you if you are planning on doing a 720 motion so I guess thats a point to the pad, what do you guys think?

The pad is a little better in my opinion I know one of the best Zangeif players uses the ps3 controller I use the madkatz pad seems to work pretty good for me. The pad is fairly small and is easy to pull off 720s. I think if u are used to the stick then.keep with it.

Zangiefs! just came with a new Way to place ultra 1 in your face: Flying Body Attack + Crouching Light Punch 2x + Crouching Light Kick + FADC + Ultra 1

This is not expected by anybody sinc Zangief doesnt really do FADC, it works best if the oponet blocks the whole string, I have not seen anybody doing this but it works great =)

Good tip for fireball characters bullying Zangief. Put on Ultra 2 against them. Build meter and when opponent throws fireball, jump towards them. Buffer ultra and complete input as you TOUCH the ground. Now, if opponent jumps in ,they'll get nailed. Why? From the ground, zangief floats up a little and grabs all incoming jumpers. Great way to stylishly take out fireballers.

Dude Zangief is too BEAST!!!

They need to make zangief's light green hand safe on hit and/or block

There are some Gief users that complain about players running away from them. And it's true. But understand that that is the only way to beat Zangief, we gotta keep our distance. From up close with 3 or 4 of his grabs we are dead! while we have to use pokes that only takes away like 6% of your life. So basically we gotta poke around 20 times!! for you to be dead due to ur increased health. So do you think it seems fair to us? Specially players who don't have fireballs like Gen.
So please stop complaining. Its clear on top, they named him one of the best characters, the best Ultras, The largest amount of defense, the most damaging attacks, including normals, in the game. What else do you want?! So just stop complaining!

I main Gen

How to launch ultra 2 right after light green glove?
I tried but turned out to be ex Running Grab?
Thanks~

zangief s t best compared to ken,ryu,ibuki

Zangief is the best ever!! #GrapplersRunThis