Posted by Tony on October 30, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. #1

Does anyone know any combos for Sagat? He is listed as a very strong character, but no combos are listed here. Thanks in advance for any help.

Posted by Paul on November 8, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. #2

A quick strike I use is to jump in with Hard punch, crouching medium punch, directly into EX Tiger Uppercut. Good for half of your opponent's life bar. Sagat is an absolute monster.

Posted by garyoak99 on November 8, 2008 at 9:48 p.m. #3

Thanks! I'll use that combo! I also agree that Sagat is an absolute monster too; the first time I played him in this game; I got four wins! Then NO ONE wanted to challenge me! I'm a victim of Sagat's success!

Posted by ED on November 10, 2008 at 4:21 a.m. #4

I'ld play you, if I got the chance, Garyoak. And if you were to win, better yet. Strong opponents makes our gameplay improves until you find a way to win. There's always a way.

Anyway, is Sagat a boss in this game?

Posted by garyoak99 on November 14, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. #5

I would probably get owned by a Zangief user before you could challenge me! Hehehe...No, Sagat is NOT a boss in this game. There are only three bosses in this game and they are: Seth, Akuma and Gouken.

Posted by ken on November 24, 2008 at 5:48 p.m. #6

I'm in japan, these guys are good! though i was better until they somehow found out about secret moves.

Posted by ken on November 24, 2008 at 5:53 p.m. #7

One more thing! I've played longer than you guys since it was released here first, there is som speacial upper cut with sagat that can counter his cross over juggle. I havent figured it out yet. Watch out for ken, bolrog and that girl with the red hair. one more thing, the better they get, the less likley they will attack!!!! It turns into a waiting game, hop you got the patience.

Posted by D3T0X on December 10, 2008 at 1:41 a.m. #8

Killing them or What

Posted by ken on December 13, 2008 at 7:32 a.m. #9

I'll help you guys out a bit! for sagats ground combo into his uppercut first, your joystick has to be at 7oclock. then, Lk,Lk,Lp , tiger uppercut or knee. another, forward light kick cancel into Lp then tiger uppercut. One more thing!!!! I found out about sagat's special tiger uppercut.
some players like zangief will cross you up everytime you fall down.! If this happens, (juggle your joystick from 1 to 3 and hit light punch, sagat does a uppercut in reverse!) Just think about a computer keyboard,

Posted by Ken on December 13, 2008 at 7:37 a.m. #10

If you guys know of anything new please let me know. These guys over here in Japan got the jump on all of these combos and tricks. I wish I spoke Japanese more...I'm pretty strong but like I said, "you gotta have a lot of patience when you play some of the good guys."

Posted by sydney-guile on December 20, 2008 at 10:51 p.m. #11

Who's giving you a hard time when you play Sagat?

Posted by Chris on January 20, 2009 at 7:48 p.m. #12

What do people mean when they are talking about 'Cancel' and also 'Juggle'?

Posted by berwyn on January 27, 2009 at 9:26 p.m. #13

his s.hk doesn't juggle, his f+hk does. and if you tap s.hk twice quickly in succession then he sticks out his knee but cancels the rest of the animation. good to use for tick throws.

Posted by momo on February 1, 2009 at 6:51 p.m. #14

I can't fight Rufus with Sagat. He doesn't seem to have any weak points. General strategies?

Posted by BHeaggans on February 4, 2009 at 12:38 p.m. #15

What moves is Rufus using against you? I mean I could be wrong but I would think that since Sagat is really good at defense that you could use his standing roundhouse for the dive kick as well as the tiger uppercut. Plus you should be able to knock him into the corner as well and use your tiger shots. You also have you standing fierce and crouching fierce. As well as you highly abusive tiger knee. But again I could be wrong, but those are some of the weapons you have to use...and have been used with Sagat in every street fighter game he has been in.

Posted by King9999 on February 5, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. #16

@Chris: "Cancel" means you interrupt the animation of one move with another move. For example, going from crouching MK to Hadouken with Ryu. "Juggle" means that you hit your opponent while he's in the air, and it keeps him in the air, allowing you to follow up with another attack, hence a juggle (like juggling balls).

Posted by Sagat on February 7, 2009 at 1:56 p.m. #17

I think Sagat is a man eating beast. I need to know how to dash cancel? Tell me!

Posted by DARKWORLD on February 9, 2009 at 6:03 a.m. #18

You gotta dash cancel your focus attack (MP+MK hold -> f,f -> MP+MK release). Costs damn meter to do.

Posted by pakoito on February 10, 2009 at 8:25 p.m. #19

How is Fake Kick done?

Posted by Karate Kid on February 11, 2009 at 6:22 p.m. #20

Does Sagat have any good jumping over crossup combos when the opponent is knocked down?

Posted by SF4 MONSTARZ on February 12, 2009 at 9:50 p.m. #21

Sagat as far as sheer talent, "Best Character of the Game".(period)He has everything a shoto player could want and some. I always thought he had the fewest weakness of all the characters of original SSF2 and Alpha series. Can't wait to relearn SF4 with both of my favorite character and turn them into my two most favorite monsters of all time: Sagat as "Godzilla" and Chun Li as "the 50ft woman!!"
Be affraid...be very afraid!!

Posted by pesser on February 14, 2009 at 6:50 a.m. #22

his fake kick is a bitch to do tap hk twice in 1/30th of a second MADNESS

Posted by Charlie on February 14, 2009 at 8:43 p.m. #23

Happy V Day

Posted by Oni on February 17, 2009 at 12:38 p.m. #24

I did fake kick by mapping heavy kick to both A and B and just mashing them like crazy, got lucky. What a dumb move.

Posted by heyyy on February 17, 2009 at 7:39 p.m. #25

How on earth do you do a cancel????

Posted by pakoito on February 17, 2009 at 8:03 p.m. #26

I did fake kick by mapping heavy kick to both A and B and just mashing them like crazy, got lucky. What a dumb move.

Posted by Oni on February 17, 2009 at 12:38 p.m. #24

Tryed that but still nothing. Will try again tomorrow. Funny fact? I have achieved LVL1 in Difficult for him.

Posted by morphiend on February 17, 2009 at 8:22 p.m. #27

i'm having issues with his tiger uppercut, fadc, f+rh, ultra combo. sometimes after i fadc i wind up behind my opponent. sometimes i get stuck in the focus attack motion (the knee+elbow thing). it's a pain in the ass to get consistently. any suggestions?

Posted by will on February 18, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. #28

fake kick is a bitch to do, but just jump in the air while pressing the the hk rapidly and you should do it

Posted by matthew on February 18, 2009 at 6:21 p.m. #29

Sagat is the best, i just got the game today and am killing my brother over and over...lol

Posted by vinh on February 18, 2009 at 8:24 p.m. #30

i hope you're at least trying to show your brother how to get better to give you at least a fun challenge in the future

Posted by vinh on February 18, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. #31

when playing offensively i tend to use a level3 focus attack on a downed opponent with sagat. it opens you up for a lot of devastating openers as long as you double tap forward as you hit with the knee to dash. then mix it up with a level2 focus attack to fake them into trying an armor breaking ability. double tap backdash and punish their mistake.

Posted by jan on February 19, 2009 at 12:52 p.m. #32

sagats ex uppercut is too strong

Posted by Matt on February 19, 2009 at 1:37 p.m. #33

How do you cancel out of regular punch. I thought you could only cancel from focus moves?

Posted by yodogg on February 19, 2009 at 1:42 p.m. #34

anyone have any suggestions for using Sagat against Vega?

Posted by sdrat on February 19, 2009 at 7:15 p.m. #35

anybody know how to perform the 4th and 5th combo on the trial?? i cant seem to get the 4th: tiger genocide then tiger destruction... how do u put these two together into a combo???

Posted by sdrat on February 19, 2009 at 7:17 p.m. #36

ok nevermind....i actually just did it right after i posted... wow typical

Posted by publicenemynumberone on February 19, 2009 at 7:28 p.m. #37

hes beastly yo.

Posted by Frankyspankyyanky on February 20, 2009 at 12:22 a.m. #38

Question: What do you guys mean by cancels? (IE:Crouching Light Punch, "Cancel" into Tiger Uppercut.) Is it like the Fake Kick?

Posted by B on February 20, 2009 at 4:05 a.m. #39

I am truly astounded by all the questions about cancelling moves. I really can't believe my eyes. I've never seen so many rookies in one gathering. That's not to be disrespectful to anyone. It's always good to get fresh blood in a legendary franchise, but it just boggles my mind to see so many questions about the most basic technique in the game. I just figured everyone knew Street Fighter inside and out. And someone explained it above. It's interrupting the animation of a move, and going immediately into a special, i.e a 'two in one.'

Posted by >> on February 20, 2009 at 10:01 a.m. #40

any tips to do sagat's fake HK?

Posted by V Langs on February 20, 2009 at 10:59 a.m. #41

I love me some sagat about as good as his hd remix self and his ssf2t o.sagat

PSN vdiddy210 if you wanna fight.

ok question, facing guile, I can spam the crap outta tiger low shot and chip away at the damage (can't jump in incase of flash kick) but when I fadc into a tiger upercut I hit and then immediately get burned by flash kicks (i'm playing pretty decent read: 2300 bp+ players) some times i can recover fast after the flash kick to get away and turtle for a bit to get some chip but guile has such fast recovery after the kick i end up getting a few cheap shots handed my way (hk and the upside down k).

HELP! what is a better tactic (i'm guessing anything lol) to fight a good guile. I can crush normal guiles that can't charge and still fight, but the ones that can always seem to be a toss up for me.

Posted by Melcken on February 20, 2009 at 11:33 a.m. #42

The Kara Tiger Knee Crush should be added.

Posted by Hi, am I on the air? on February 20, 2009 at 1:22 p.m. #43

hi

Posted by craig on February 20, 2009 at 4 p.m. #44

haviing seroius trouble trying to pull of sagat finsher or anyones.. trying the one with single kick Tiger Genocide (Super)can anyone help on this

Posted by ugh on February 20, 2009 at 6:09 p.m. #45

why is my connection so damn slow

Posted by 1631616 on February 21, 2009 at 12:17 a.m. #46

does sagat have an overhead.

forward - hp seems like an overhead but i have not tried it on anyone that is crouch blocking.

Posted by Rudeboy on February 21, 2009 at 3:57 a.m. #47

Sagat fake kick is tooo stupid OMG.
And how exacly is that going to help in a match? Please some one show me!!!! If you can LMAO

If anyone is from the UK and would like to battle add me Rudeboy_2deep

Posted by toblovski on February 21, 2009 at 5:17 a.m. #48

i dont know how the EX-moves work in generally. u ve to push a button twice or more... but it doesnt work. am i too slow? ^^

Posted by selfisch on February 21, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. #49

@tobolovski

I don't own the game but I think u have to push 2 buttons at once.....

I can't wait anymore, ordered the game in uk, I live in austria and amazon needs a week to ship....-.-

Posted by Chillflame on February 21, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. #50

How do u do standing highkick with sagat in the training mode... i cant get past the 1st set of moves. anyone else had the same problem?

Posted by gunnah on February 21, 2009 at 2:24 p.m. #51

this is seriously pissin me off ive like done half of the characters normal trial and i just got to sagat and i cant do sagats gay fake kik wat do u need to press if sumone actually knows

Posted by Adam on February 21, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. #52

For the fake kick that everyone is struggling with, try mapping the HK to a button other than the trigger. It's hard to mash the trigger fast enough to get the move to register. I used one of the 360 shoulder buttons because you don't have to press down to far for the button press to register.

Quick question of my own though...I'm struggling mightily with the "Medium Kick/Tiger Knee Crush" combo. It seems not to register my MK unless I'm directly next to Dan and it does the close 2 hit combo MK move. But from a distance, for whatever reason my MP will register as a MK if it hits. But regardless, I'm not able to pull off the Tiger Knee Crush, and when I do it doesn't seem to happen fast enough to give me credit. Am I retarded?

Posted by Josh D on February 21, 2009 at 10:01 p.m. #53

Hey guys I'm pretty new to streetfighter, I played a little of streetfighter 2 turbo back on super nintendo but now I'm trying to be a more hardcore player but I just want some basic tips and strategies to get good playing online cuz I keep losing.Is that one player I should get really good with?I notice a lot of people choose either Ken or Sagat but I've heard that any character can be great if mastered.Also sometimes I feel like opponents wait to choose who I pic and then choose a character who sort of counters the oner I chose.Does this happen? Please help me guys you all seem really cool about sharing info unlike some people for other games who try to keep everything a secret.If anyone wants to actually take the time my e-mail is j_ditt187@yahoo.com if not just post on here.Thanks!

Posted by Supastar on February 22, 2009 at 12:14 a.m. #54

Josh D:

What you should do is start with a easy character such as Ken or Ryu (though i really do hate ppl playin with ken online). You should take your time with one of these characters, go through both normal and hard difficulty levels of the trial mode to understand the mechanism of the moves. Especially learn how to use the focus cuz that'll bring ur game up huge. Once you understand the mechanism, it'll be easy for you to move to any other character. And yes ppl do sometimes wait to see who you pick but you shouldn't concern yourself so much with that...in time you'll learn how to defeat every character and hence ur opponent's character wont matter.

Good luck on your game dude!

Posted by Josh D on February 22, 2009 at 7:47 a.m. #55

Thanks man that helps.I do know focus attacks and special moves and the ultra combo though and I have beaten the game with every character on medium.i still seem to get killed 9 times out of 10.I guess I should practice on hard?And if i get more proficient at the non special combos, such as Lp to Mk to HP are those better than special moves?anyways thanks a lot for the help.I will take your advice though and thanks for the tip!

Posted by Josh D on February 22, 2009 at 7:47 a.m. #56

Thanks man that helps.I do know focus attacks and special moves and the ultra combo though and I have beaten the game with every character on medium.i still seem to get killed 9 times out of 10.I guess I should practice on hard?And if i get more proficient at the non special combos, such as Lp to Mk to HP are those better than special moves?anyways thanks a lot for the help.I will take your advice though and thanks for the tip!

Posted by Ollie on February 22, 2009 at 7:55 a.m. #57

What's a good wake up game for Sagat? keeping geting knocked down and haven't yet a found a good way to get back into the fight. Also any good tactic's against Zangief and Abel zoning works well enough but has its flaws.. well I have my flaws seems more accurate. cheers

Posted by Ollie on February 22, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. #58

Josh D:

I've found that mapping triple kick and punch over the regular fierce attack buttons really helped, makes EX and Ultra moves much easier to bring into combos also it frees two buttons to use as focus ad throw which can be really useful when you need to react quickly like reversals or absorbing most projectiles. I'm also pretty new to Street Fighter too and these changes helped out alot still find some of the later challenges really hard tho.

Posted by dust1n ech0es on February 22, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. #59

hey guys im stuck trying 2 do sagats fake kick i dont understand what it means when it says summing like
( begin standing high kick) so i do tht and i hit str8t over the guys head from point blank and still i dont complete the move haha
im stuck ont he first trail with sagat ty guys

Posted by guy on February 22, 2009 at 4:24 p.m. #60

SAGAT's FAKE KICK:

If you have a fight stick, make a peace sign with your button hand. hit the button with your middle finger, then your index finger, 2 quick taps. If you have a controller, you can probably do the same thing, just tilt it so you can do that trick.

Posted by zuu zuu on February 22, 2009 at 5:06 p.m. #61

Ex tiger uppercut can be followed up by Tiger genocide. The Tiger uppercut section on the genocide does not register but you ultimatly do more damage, I did this in a corner so i dono if the connection is there when without it

Posted by Fake Kick?? on February 22, 2009 at 5:46 p.m. #62

Holy crap, his fake kick is the crappiest thing evar!! Extremely hard to do I thought. Just like someone else already said, just jump and start hitting HK. Worked first time I tried it

Posted by jcg992 on February 22, 2009 at 8:18 p.m. #63

omg wow, sagats fake kick is the stupidest move ever. Just like everyone else here said, i was having some trouble and was pissed that this was only the first tier for sagats trial. I came on this site and looked at the comments regarding the fake kick, and did as one of the users told me, and mapped hk to a and b and just rapidly tapped. This actually worked the best for me, and i suggest this method to anyone else here who hasn't performed the move. It took me a total of about less than 30 seconds, so executing it should be no problem if u do as stated above.

Posted by yflow on February 23, 2009 at 12:06 a.m. #64

I would add towardsHK to the list of notable normals. it's a good anti-air if your opponent is jumping at a bit of a distance, and it juggles into ultra (just like everything sagat has).

Posted by dbo on February 23, 2009 at 12:41 a.m. #65

I did his fake kick and I seriously believe it is a waste of a move and should never be tried in a game by the time you do the move you would already be dead an sagat is the best mauy thai fighter ever they don't call him the king for no reason I wish they can put him in tekken

Posted by D3T0X on February 23, 2009 at 1:12 a.m. #66

Sagat is the KING!

Pwning them n00bz

Posted by AcE on February 23, 2009 at 8:11 a.m. #67

could anyone tell me how to install sfiv onto my ps3 hard drive? i ahve no idea how to do it. people tell me to go to the game options but all i find there is about this game and information, any help would be greatly appreciated

Posted by Josh D on February 23, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. #68

How do you perform a ex tiger uppercut.I know focus is MP and MK but I don't understand in trial mode what it means when it says ex uppeercut. Any help???

Posted by V Langs on February 23, 2009 at 1:55 p.m. #69

AcE game options and then settings (or something similar) i'm not infront of the ps3 at the moment but i'm pretty sure it's that one just look through every context menu until you find it.

It doesn't help much though....Ultimately i've only noticed maybe 10 seconds quicker? and 6GB of install space...

Posted by V Langs on February 23, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. #70

@ everyone posting (sorry for using this term) "noob" questions,

I'm really happy you're here! and welcome to the eventhubs yadda yadda ya, but all those questions can be answered in the tips and tricks section of the guide, read it. it helped me a bunch (i've been playing SF for 17+ years but I didn't know the internet nomenclature very well) when i came here last year, and i promise it'll help you too.

As for sagat's hard fake kick, it's already posted here no need to ask 100 times (double tap HK matter of fact just foreword jump and while your foreword jumping start tapping the HK button repeatedly) I haven't done any trials (online baby!) but I use it a lot on unsuspecting kens who're trying to time out their srks. so it IS USEFUL

the wall should be for specific questions regarding sagat play, so that people don't have to sift through the randomness to find info that is useful..

...sorry if I sound snobbish! i don't mean it really! but it'll make the board that much better!

Posted by WetCrewDPer on February 23, 2009 at 2:06 p.m. #71

Basically get the street fighter gamepad or stick place turbo on HK and there you go:)

Posted by AcE on February 23, 2009 at 3:07 p.m. #72

thank you very much v langs, you saved me first killing myself from trying to install it

Posted by V Langs on February 23, 2009 at 4:05 p.m. #73

no problem bro,

and if you ever want a challenging sagat fight (2600+ bp)

PSN: vdiddy210

hit me up

Posted by NeXus on February 24, 2009 at 10:33 a.m. #74

This combo worked for me online yesterday. After the EX Tiger Uppercut, do the Ultra as they are falling back to the ground.

Posted by V Langs on February 24, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. #75

NeXus
That'd only work off of a counter hit because T-up is only juggleable after counter hit, but good job nonetheless!!!

Posted by void on February 24, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. #76

sorry for the noob question, but can someoen please tell me what the term "trading hits" means. I'm new and this would really help me out.

Posted by yep! on February 24, 2009 at 11:56 p.m. #77

yea keep posting tips guys this helps alot!! im new to street fighter so explain in depth please
can someone answer #76 also

Posted by Nate on February 25, 2009 at 2:59 a.m. #78

How good is Bison versus Sagat for competitive play? You'd think Bison's down + HK slide going under high Tiger Shot's would help.

Posted by SergeEXE on February 25, 2009 at 7:57 a.m. #79

@yep!

Trading Hits is when both you and your opponent use an attack where both characters get hit at the same time.

For example, Ken may be jumping at Sagat with a Roundhouse Kick. If you throw a Tiger Uppercut a bit too late, the hitbox of the Jumping roundhouse kick will hit Sagat as the Uppercut hits Ken, causing both characters to get hit back, maybe even fall down.

Posted by dude on February 25, 2009 at 7:05 p.m. #80

can someone list the advantages and disadvantages for sagat.

Like what he is good at, his good moves, etc
And his problem areas and what to watch out for, thanks

Posted by CapeKid on February 25, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. #81

The easiest way to do Sagat's fake kick is to use a rock band drum kit. Plug it in and use it as your controller and do a drum roll. Seriously. It worked for me on the first try.

Posted by cereal on February 25, 2009 at 9:12 p.m. #82

any one know how to do his fake kick (bloody joke)

Posted by berwyn on February 26, 2009 at 12:01 a.m. #83

just do a double tap (essentially what CapeKid is trying to say). drum your index and middle finger consecutively as quickly as possible.

Posted by Diamondis on February 26, 2009 at 5:50 a.m. #84

After recently winning a small SF IV tournament I've switched to Sagat from Akuma (mainly because Akuma is usually banned in tournaments) and loving how much of a beast he is!

I'm kinda stuck on one of his Trial Mode things. Crouch + LK x3 then Heavy Tiger Uppercut... But Dan keeps blocking my damn uppercut! Any tips?

Posted by lrgungrave on February 26, 2009 at 7:52 a.m. #85

....I didn't really see a couple of answers to some older specific questions so in my opinion......I think Sagat's best wake-up has to be his tiger uppercut, especially effective if its ex and they do you the favor of trying to camp over you....as for Bison....he's still a strong opponent but I've seen him bite it to the tiger knee into a lot.......and that rock band kit idea....genius.....as for Akuma's.....maybe I'm just seeing some bad ones but he's really been no threat at all.....just a little hard to approach if spammed....

Posted by SergeEXE on February 26, 2009 at 8:29 a.m. #86

@Diamondis

That trial is all about tricky timing. Immediatly after linking the third c.LK, you can cancel into the Uppercut. It just takes practice and timing.

Posted by jeff on February 26, 2009 at 6:40 p.m. #87

i cant get sagat to do his super or ultra do u press the kick with the d pad or wait untill after?

Posted by TrAb on February 26, 2009 at 7:32 p.m. #88

I usually press it right as i hit the last button on the D pad

Posted by You like...cornflakes? on February 27, 2009 at 12:17 a.m. #89

NO HAS EVER DEFEATED SAGAT, AND NO ONE EVER WILL

Posted by danielsan on February 27, 2009 at 5:05 a.m. #90

4 begingers which i am 2 it seems realy effective to start most rounds with a tiger knee and also jumping hard kick into a low hardpunch is a raely gd 2 combo move saved me from a few losses.

Posted by CBsagat on February 27, 2009 at 9:57 a.m. #91

Im in a National Street fighter 4 tournament. Round two is tommorow! Any Combos i should use???????

Posted by Sex Panther by Odeon on February 27, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. #92

I am having trouble defending cross up attacks, they kill me every time! Any input on defending cross up attacks, and if Sagat has any cross up attacks himself would be greatly appreciated!

Posted by Diamondis on February 27, 2009 at 4:17 p.m. #93

Love the name Sex Panther =P

Question about Cammy's moves. I can't defend against her cannon spike or cannon drill moves with Sagat >< They're just too damn fast and even if I block them she recovers rediculously fast! Any tips on defending VS Cammy?

Posted by renton on February 27, 2009 at 6:50 p.m. #94

The trick to Sagat's fake kick on Xbox is to roll your middle finger and index finger off the RT button in a finger drumming like motion. Try moving your hand backwards and away from the controller as you hit the button with this drum like motion and you will get it nearly everytime.

Posted by adrian on February 27, 2009 at 9:56 p.m. #95

im having trouble doing sagats super into ultra in the challenge. any suggestions? do i have to cancel into the ultra or do i time the ultra after the super has finished?

Posted by ADE1977 on February 28, 2009 at 2:22 a.m. #96

Basically Sagat can play 2 different games, zoning, using his tiger shots to protect the horizontal and tiger uppercut the vertical; close in using the tiger knee to get in tight, crouching MK into tiger knee is a good safe in close combo, even if it misses you get time to block, just be ready to technical(back lp+lk) the throw they might try. Its worth being aware that for a jump-in always use MP its got good hit priority(although not infallible), loads of hit frames and links in to most combos. Hope it helps.

Posted by lrgungrave on February 28, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. #97

-sexpanther.....!

...I've had the same problem defending the cross ups...especially since I live with an extremely aggressive chun player....but lately I've been using the tiger knee a lot more for mobility than anything else.....so just get out of there, whether you connect or not you now have a little space to retreat into zone or just prepare a good anti-air....hit me up on tips to be a complete dick to chun-li...=)

Posted by lrgungrave on February 28, 2009 at 9:04 a.m. #98

....Diamondis

First of all...Cammy pisses me off.....my best bet so far is to keep up the block low at almost all times, keep it tight if you can.....and counter your ass off with knee's and low tigers.......and when you see that ultra....do not jump, your brain will try to trick you into thinking you can just vault over this tiny woman and kick her in the back of her proper ass braided head.....and then you get spiked....just block.

Posted by V Langs on February 28, 2009 at 3:57 p.m. #99

Problems with cammy??

here's what I found to work:

being aggressive worked to an extent. but start with a T-Knee just to set the tone and then turtle the low tiger...I don't know if you have a morality issue, but it's the best way because it negates all of cammy's cannon moves.

if you're fighting a good cammy: don't jump in! just like guile the cannon spike will always get you.

fire low tiger shots and when they try jumping over it hit em up with an EX normal tiger shot. when they penetrate, (and they will) be ready with standing HKs and a wake up uppercut. hopefully that'll help....

another completely different tactic would be to rush down the cammy and keep the low block handy, don't give em space to do any moves and keep the standing hk handy. I don't recommend it because it requires a lot of timing. and obviously a higher level of play

good luck!

Posted by GosPEs on February 28, 2009 at 5:33 p.m. #100

Sagat is a BEAST!!!

Posted by Omniel on February 28, 2009 at 9:13 p.m. #101

Sagat is a monster I can beat the game on the hardest difficulty with him. I have a hard time playing it on medium with other characters. Maybe its just because sagat is over powered to the extreme has anyone else noticed this?

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 3, 2009 at 6:10 a.m. #102

sagat is not over powered or stronger than the rest, although, he is stronger than most.

sagat is on similar strength as ryu, ryu might be stronger. ken is no match for sagat but if im ryu i can beat sagat players. (ive really not attempted any other players to beat sagat)

ADVANTAGES (please add and apply agree/disagree)

- really strong
- tiger knee has excellent range
- tiger uppercut ex is real good save move
- ex tiger flame is good too
- learn patience, when to defend and how to goad a player and you'll win

cant think of anything useful to be honest hes a good player just lacks some good combos (what i mean by good combos is ones that are quite easy to pull off or chain). alot of his combos start from jumps, which can be deadly if someone pulls an anti air.

DISADVANTAGES (anyone agree?)

- he gets up a little too slow
- alot of his hard hitting moves just take that little bit longer to go through their motions
- tiger is fast, but if youre gonna spam it with ryu...ryu wins
-ultra doesnt do as much damage as i would have thought
- basically, a really really good abel player will really piss you off. if you get knocked down and abel is right next to you, the second youre up, he'll do his spinning grab thingy move. this move cant be blocked either. its a bitch to get out of but it is possible to get out of if you practice enough.

to see abel do that, go into training, put difficulty to hardest and make abel CPU, also allow the usual like guard on etc and watch that muppet do his throws!!

for some reason....the difficulty level in training is, IMO, harder than the difficulty of the arcade. anyone else notice this? try it and see.

ive used sagat on the hardest setting, had quite a few perfects...but i played seth and mustve gone for about fifteen minutes then decided to take a rest...just couldnt beat him. it was always 1 all but then hed get that final round the smurf!!

also, i dont use ANY of his combos, just find it too hard to pull off as im using the normal 360 pad and its a bitch!!

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 3, 2009 at 6:05 p.m. #103

OTHER NOTES **********

I prefer his Ex tiger knee....thats my saving grace...its REALLY quick in execution AND recovery. his normal is the same, the ex does more damage

DISADVANTAGE

never execute the ultra on its own, the ultra takes wayyy too long to come out and someone who has a quick ultra, like ken, will always beat you to the mark, as i learned today. always execute after a hit.

also, his ultra will require some timing, as he jumps in the air to tiger knee, if this first part of the ultra does not connect...say bye bye.

It is difficult to connect with smaller/skinnier players whom sagat towers over. so get the positioning right.

TACTIC -

well, im letting this one out. learn to control the other player. meaning if you keep them at a distance, you'll always have the upper hand. ill leave the rest of the thinking to you people.

im coming on live soon friends. watch me dominate KING style!!

Posted by Bubbles on March 4, 2009 at 2:32 a.m. #104

lol de bunk. you aren't letting much out. everyone who is remotely competent knows that you are supposed to play zoning and footsie poking game with sagat.

Posted by Bubbles on March 4, 2009 at 2:36 a.m. #105

oh i forgot to mention, only scrubs use sagat's ultra outside of going through fireballs and/or after a FADC combo.

Posted by Fagat-Hater on March 4, 2009 at 2:52 a.m. #106

I hate Fagat he is so damn cheap. And I hate his Tiger Balls.

Posted by XD on March 4, 2009 at 9:35 a.m. #107

he is so cheap does he even have a weakness???????

Posted by Hadoken on March 4, 2009 at 9:51 a.m. #108

Agreed. He is overpowered. But I've beat sagat players with blanka and chun online several times. But just one of his simple combos takes like half of your life bar. Cheap indeed.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 4, 2009 at 10:57 a.m. #109

@ - Boobles

footsie poking games? how can you play footsie poking games when your aim is to keep them away from you? this clearly shows you have not read what i wrote or even attempted to use your logic and creativity. probably a fat kid arent ya.

you can avoid the pokes completely and aniihalate your opponent through tiger moves.

@ Everyone Else

Ive already mentioned one player who can overpower Sagat. You kids really need to find a new game. Or, buy a SNES and practice on Street Fighter 2 Turbo for abit.

Ive even mentioned a method in which you can watch the CPU beat on Sagat, and the CPU AI should give you a decent idea or two on how to tackle the beast. But yet again, you all fail to understand everything that is on this site and the information providied to you.

You have no one to blame but yourselves. Go whine and cry to your mommy...Sagat will pwnn her a$$ too.

Posted by Bubbles on March 4, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. #110

LOLOLOL

Can you fail any harder? practicing on the cpu? The cpu is incredibly bad. They fall to unsafe moves all the time and can't punish for jack (such as being unable to punish with reversal srks and such). Footsies involve kara-knee's and such. You can't win an entire game just based on tigers (Akuma's fireballs come to mind). Seriously, at least learn the game before you talk.

I stopped reading your posts after you failed to include standing hk as a good move, him getting up slow (have you heard of a technical recovery? suck more please), mentioning execution as one of the disadvantages, and failing to beat the cpu seth. if i actually took your post seriously, i would have instantly lost brain cells. oh, and please learn to spell. it isn't hard. there is even spell check in case you can't comprehend that.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 4, 2009 at 4:20 p.m. #111

@ Bubbles
(Seriously, one or two letters jumbled and you pick that of all things to mention? Clearly you have no logic)

You didnt answer when i said youre a dumb fat kid. So i take your silence on that topic as a yes you are a dumb fat kid.

Bubbles you are an EPIC LIFE FAIL. Seriously.

READ my post. The training difficulty is harder than the arcade difficulty. I did say let the CPU BEAT ON YOU..Not 'Beat on the CPU' i know the CPU is nothing compared to the normal player. It gives you a fairly good idea of what counter moves they can do against yours.

Your ENTIRE game with Sagat involves tigers. You made the basic scrub mistake of assuming when i said 'tigers' i meant his "Tiger Shot", which is why you go on to mention Akumas fireball in brackets.

- Beating Seth. So what? I can come up with a range of reasons why i didnt at first. It doesnt matter now, i beat the game AND im on xbox live now.

I cant include ALL his good moves, this site has already done that. You cant always do a tech stand up. Obviously that just came as a shock to you.

Do you even play the game? I bet now youre gonna say you have a PS3 instead of an xbox to avoid the challenge. Otherwise id ask ya to post your gamertag and ill add you, whoop you, then post on the net what a lame excuse of a street fighter you really are!

Spellcheck that. Fool.

Posted by help meeeeeeeeee on March 4, 2009 at 4:24 p.m. #112

hey on online akuma keeps beating me when im sagat. so does ryu.

any tactics with these two guys? please help?

akumas ultra is a bit**!!i cant seem to avoid it!! help!!

Posted by Bubbles on March 4, 2009 at 4:29 p.m. #113

LOL I'm a fat kid sure. I'm as fat as you are educated.

My xbox live ign is Bubbles of HK. I'll be back from studying abroad in about 2-3 weeks. Play you then. Your rhetoric is so poor. Can you argue without trying to insult? Is your vocabulary so limited that you cannot do anything else? If you beat me, sure I'll be more than glad to admit you are better and refrain from posting. Until then, all you are doing is talking out of your ass like the dumb prick you are. I seriously do not know where you began to assume I am a fat kid.

"Posted by Bubbles on March 4, 2009 at 2:32 a.m. #104

lol de bunk. you aren't letting much out. everyone who is remotely competent knows that you are supposed to play zoning and footsie poking game with sagat.

Posted by Bubbles on March 4, 2009 at 2:36 a.m. #105

oh i forgot to mention, only scrubs use sagat's ultra outside of going through fireballs and/or after a FADC combo."

Really? From this? I was merely mentioning what you were lacking. Are you so insecure about yourself that you begin to flame when people give suggestions? LOL you are so clever, calling me Bboobles. Someone get this man a nobel prize in literature.

Posted by lrgungrave on March 4, 2009 at 4:54 p.m. #114

.....help meeeeeeeee!....

2 ways to avoid Akuma's ultra....hit him while he's on the way....or.....I like to jump and then just punish......just don't block and it's actually pretty easy to avoid.....I actually like it when someone's trying to pull one off online....you see them punching the air like all hell......and then they whiff it and die shocked as if Akuma's some god......

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 4, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. #115

@ Boobles

So is it 'Boobles' on its own or 'Boobles of HK (Homosexual Kings)'

(My vocabulary spreads far and wide...like the meat on you)

So when you had nothing useful to say the first time, you chose to comment on my spelling.

Now, again when you have nothing useful to say, nor can you argue well, you decide to pick on my vocabulary.

More and more you prove to everyone what i said all along, that youre a pesky little kid. Next its going to be punctuation and grammar, right?

You were not 'suggesting' anything with your two posts which you have quoted, rather you were making a point.

A point which was laced with the attitude of ' i know what i am doing im the master and youre just a noob and a scrub'

This is exacerbated by your constant posts on how, just because someone lost against the CPU utomatically makes them a scrub and how you 'cant believe someone would lose against a CPU' etc etc

Are you sure 2 weeks is enough for you to practice? I'll give you four weeks instead. At the moment im a little too good for some of these online players and im only using my pad. You better buy a fightstick if you want to stand a chance kiddo.

Posted by onimask on March 5, 2009 at 1:36 a.m. #116

I heard there is a downwards uppercut with sagat. Anyone know how to do it and also the best time to do it?

Posted by Sagat on March 5, 2009 at 3:30 a.m. #117

Tip to destroy Blanka with Sagat:

Whenever Blanka does any of his roll moves do a tiger knee.
vary the kick (l,m,h) depending on which roll he does.

oh and everybody needs to chill. :)

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 5, 2009 at 6:32 p.m. #118

im sorry im just a ****** that has no life. im also gay.......

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 5, 2009 at 10:23 p.m. #119

haha. funny. copy my title and make a post. guess originality runs in your family dont it?

people would fall for it, if it wasnt for the f***ed up mistake you made in your post.

you seem to think the term '******' and 'gay' are two different things altogether. go back to school while i tap your mommy!

@omnimask

stop being so lazy and read the comments on this page. its already stated how to do it.

Posted by Bubbles on March 5, 2009 at 11:12 p.m. #120

haha are u serious? did u just post that crap to make it seem like i tried to post as you? i live in california so posting i don't believe calling someone gay is an insult. anyway, im making it clear right now that im not gonna argue with a backward hick like you until after we play. if someone posts as me trying to argue with de bunk though, that aint me cuz im done until after we play.

if someone else tried to pull that stunt though, props to you.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 6, 2009 at 12:01 a.m. #121

it had to be you then. you sad old downie. i never even took your name and you automatically assume that i mean you?

you were clearly waiting for my reply against that comment so you could quickly sprout out and say it wasnt you.

shameful boobles. utterly shameful.

Posted by SAGAT VS ZANGIEF on March 6, 2009 at 1:47 a.m. #122

When I play Zangief against someone using Sagat it's an interesting battle as they will tend to play very aggressive but I'll just patiently wait for and opening then do the spinning piledriver.

People get so frustrated as they think it'll be an easy battle.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 6, 2009 at 4:12 a.m. #123

Damn, I just ate $40 dollars worth of McDonalds which confirms my morbidly obeseness because I am fat as hell. I am also lazy as hell, gay, and will never get laid. I sometimes if I am lucky get within 10 feet of a girl. If you want to find me, just head to your local McDonalds, I will be there eating, eating is what I do best.

Posted by Fagat Hater on March 6, 2009 at 4:49 a.m. #124

Fagat is so cheap that you can buy him at ebay for like one dollar including shipping. And he is Made in China by the way. Also I own Fagat with Fei Long anyday 24/7 even when I am sleeping with the controller in my feet.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 6, 2009 at 6:33 a.m. #125

@ fake de bunk da junk

lame lame lame lame. i do, however, like eating out your mum! oooooh yeah baby!! she always gives me fries with her shake!

@ fagat hater

wanna match? u on the xbox>

Posted by Bubbles on March 6, 2009 at 6:35 a.m. #126

@ the guy posing as debunkjunk

dude, youre so dumb in your approach. you keep getting put down badly by the original de bunk da junk guy its embarassing. go take your plight elsewhere and leave this board for usefil tips on playing with/as/against sagat.

Posted by Um, this is about Sagat on March 6, 2009 at 7:20 a.m. #127

can the mods band the IPs of the these two ladies having their little soap opera? I was here for Sagat info.

I got owned yesterday by a Sagat player spamming the Focus Attack/Tiger Knee. Was using El Fuerte, didn't have a chance to charge his Armor Breaking move (Quesadilla Bomb). Annoying.

Sagat is vicious.

Posted by Terminator on March 6, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. #128

Lol, at de bunk da junk trying to make it look like bubbles is pretending he is him. They are both incredibly stupid. Cant you guys take this somewhere else? Like myspace?

Posted by Mook on March 6, 2009 at 11:56 a.m. #129

Sagat is a beast. He so strong and he has so many good moves to do. The opponent won't know whats really coming. Only thing negative I can say about him is that when he's trapped in a corner its really hard to get him out.
IF YOU PLAY WITH SAGAT AND THE OPPONENT CHOOSES A VERY FAST CHARACTER...DO NOT LET THEM GET CLOSE TO YOU. DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO KEEP THEM BACK SO YOU CAN SPAM THOSE FIREBALLS :p

Posted by GudsGutt on March 6, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. #130

Pure win this tread is... mhmmmmm

Posted by Shintaku on March 6, 2009 at 4:48 p.m. #131

I bought the game, then I started playing with Sagat. I was interrupted by a Guy who picked Akuma. He was good in ladder. I owned him easily and I had been playing for 20 minutes. He lost 200p to me.

Shortly? Sagat kicks asses. Fullstop.

Posted by Rudy C on March 6, 2009 at 8:32 p.m. #132

Fuak Sagat

Posted by Trill on March 7, 2009 at 12:44 a.m. #133

hey to do Sagat's super combo into an ultra is a juggle so you do each motion in full you just have to get the timing down to complete that challenge maybe you can cancel into it but I didn't

Posted by lrgungrave on March 7, 2009 at 8:21 a.m. #134

....Trill

I found the spacing was really the hardest thing about the super into ultra....but this worked for me after a try or two.....make sure Dan is 2/3 between the wall and the center of the stage...get right in his face, pull the super and then almost immediately start inputting the ultra.....it'll work every time as long as you get the ultra off with his body still above your head.....just practice the timing a little and you'll have it.......but I honestly would not suggest this at all against a non CPU or scrub opponent......better to work on your HK to ultra....

Posted by FFS... - Please Read on March 8, 2009 at 3:45 a.m. #135

I own people online.

I can play with all the fireball characters.

Im really good and can kick a** most of the time.

But...I cant for the life of me

BEAT SETH EVEN ON EASIEST!!

I JUST CANT DO IT! I CANT BEAT HIM WITH RYU! RYU IS THE FIRST GUY I TRIED IT WITH AND SETH KEEPS BEATING MY A**!

ITS ON EASY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!

Seriously, ONLINE, im pretty high up there. But i just cant beat that B****rd Seth with Abel face!!

Posted by Sagat on March 8, 2009 at 5:24 a.m. #136

@FFS

Whats your battle points mate?

Try jump kicking and sweeping seth more.

Posted by FFS...- Please Read on March 9, 2009 at 12:54 a.m. #137

@sagat

thanks for the tip. i tried that but he kep ex shoryukenning me!

ive finally beat him and am on my way to unlocking all the players.

to beat this guy ive found a more defensive stance is best. wait for him to jump in and then attack him and space yourself again.

someone also said this on one of the comments above :-)

Posted by ove on March 9, 2009 at 6:40 a.m. #138

Just like "Sagat" says I find it the most effective to jump in to seth. Try jumping HK, standing HK and finish it with low HK, then repeat the procedure! ;) This tactics works over 50 % of the time hence seth is spamming a lot of sonic booms or doing his yoga punches. If you get hit by a shoryuken it doesn't take a hell lot of damage, I would guess sagats kick combo takes the double amount of damage, so in the end it's a good tactic even if you obviously get hit once in a while!

Of course you can zone play him as well shooting tigers at him, this tactic works once in while but hence seth aside from sonic boom spamming also LOVES yoga teleports it is dangerous (you get piledrived!). And if you use this tactic always shot EX tigers!! Seth almost always combos his regular conic booms with the EX version, so if you stand there shooting regular tigers your dead!

Sagat of course is a beast, but the real beast is from the east and his name is zangief! I find it absolute easiest to beat seth with zangief. Just jump around all the time and you avoid seth's sonic boom spamming and his piledriver, and then you punish him with your own (much more effective) piledriver.

Finally I wonder if anyone have noticed how much easier the computer is in this game compared to the previous? I remebered getting punished even at the easier levels in SF II - hyper fighting and in SF III - 3rd strike Gill is impossible to beat at the harder levels! Gill has to be the cheapest character EVER in a SF game!! But in SF IV i finished the game with zangief on the hardest difficulty settings the first time I played, and it didn't took me long time to finish it with sagat either...

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 9, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. #139

hello ove. youre right. the cpu has been dumbed down. i mentioned this earlier. its a shame really, too many whiny kids wouldnt be able tp play it then.

however if you increase the difficulty to max in training it seems to be harder than the cpu arcade hardest setting.

@FFS

make sure you put it on the

'easiest' setting

sometimes, like me, i left it on the 'easy' setting only to realise after half a days work that theres an easier setting!

Posted by Boing on March 10, 2009 at 9:08 a.m. #140

Strengths and weaknesses...

Weakness: none, hahaha!

You have to hit him loads to beat him and when he hits he hits hard...

Posted by Mushroom on March 11, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. #141

how do you do Sagat's fake kick?

Posted by project 52 on March 11, 2009 at 1:09 p.m. #142

Does anyone have tips on timing Sagat's ultra after a hard tiger uppercut? When to start the ultra motion maybe??? I just cant consistently land it, thanks.

Posted by project 52 on March 11, 2009 at 1:55 p.m. #143

Sorry, I meant the EX Tiger Upper Cut to Ultra

Posted by Mike on March 11, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. #144

i make ken noobs cry with Sagat.

Posted by TH3 JoK3R J on March 11, 2009 at 11:44 p.m. #145

@"Mushroom" to do the fake kick.Jump forward and press that kick button FAST! you don't have to make contact with the
opponent if trying to do in trial mode.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 12, 2009 at 5:06 a.m. #146

a good one they teach you in trial mode is to do the ex tiger uppercut focus attack dash cancel and then the ultra so it connects as they are falling

Posted by sbw on March 13, 2009 at 4:52 a.m. #147

@ de bunk

you forgot the forward HK, that combo doesn't work without that after the FADC. also, add me on xbla (B0BBYD1G1) im interested if you can back up all that trash talk you spew.

Posted by Fagat Hater on March 13, 2009 at 5:35 a.m. #148

@ de bunk da junk

No I am on PS3. I can RROD your x360 ingame with Fei Long! You better think twice before challanging me.

Also who ever thinks he can beat me is even more retarded than Fagat. Fagat has to add 260 IQ points to be an average intelligent person. For the people who doesn't know yet Fagat's De-evolution came from a camel.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 13, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. #149

@sbw

yes, a minor exclusion on my part. i did mention the trials so some intelligent individuals should work out that maybe they need to attempt the trials. cheers for pointing that out.
ill get in touch with you shortly.

@fagat hater

ur chilidish high school put downs really dont go down well amongst us adults. leave the trash talk to those who are capable of put downs. you just sound like a retard who keeps losing against sagat.

good excuse that you are on ps3. dont let that stop you from putting up your psn id. my friend is about to buy SF4 on the ps3 and the first thing im gonna do is ask him to add you so i can kick ur a@@.

i dont need to think, i am challenging you. so go ahead, post your psn id.

Posted by honestly on March 13, 2009 at 4:48 p.m. #150

You guys really dont think that Sagat is Overpowered?

Compare his damage on his heavy crouched compared to others.
Hell, compare his damage on any move compared to others.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 13, 2009 at 8:30 p.m. #151

@honestly

look, some of you are really pissing others off.

his heavy crouched comes out slower than most. you can block his heavy crouch attack and release your heavy crouch attack and it is guaranteed to hit.

you can get sagat like that all the time. and if your akuma against sagat, then sagat has met his match in damage dealing!

Posted by xXCollectorXx on March 15, 2009 at 12:44 p.m. #152

I need help doing that damn fake kick in challenge mode, i dont know if my timing is off or what but the name i posted this with is my gamertag on 360. Thanks.

Posted by MC G Pop on March 15, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #153

I made up a joke about Sagat.

What does Sagat put on his bruises after he fights?

Tiger Balm!

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 16, 2009 at 5:38 a.m. #154

@ Boobles

Just so everyone knows, the guy whose name i have quoted has failed to appear for the challenge invoked on him. Im sure its past the two weeks which he promised me. tut tut.

xxcollectorxx

people have made comments on how to make the fake kick. read it by scrolling to the top and then going through each one. its the only advice you'll get as everyone was having abit of trouble.

MC G pop

dont give up ya day job LOL hey with the right delivery you could pull it off hehe keem em coming lad

Posted by V Langs on March 16, 2009 at 11:45 a.m. #155

@ de bunk da junk

vdiddy210 PSN whenever I'm on gimme a challenge....

anyways, to clarify a few things, you've said some good things and also a whole lotta bad things.

first off, Standing HK IS SAGAT'S BEST Anti-Air. Hands Down.

second, I would like to point out that you've been telling everyone how high school put downs aren't cool yet you clearly started them. Bubbles clearly gave you good points not to hate but to educate EVERYONE ELSE who comes here to learn about Sagat. I haven't stopped by in a few days and I'm regretting it cuz this coulda stopped a long time ago. You turned his legit comment into a Flame War.

and finally, if you wake up tiger uppercut whenever you're knocked down, you're no better than the scrub ken/ryu players online and as soon as you play a legit sagat player i'm sorry, but you're gonna get your sh*t rocked.

I'm curious to see how well you fight. because frankly this is not the place for all the mom jokes and inappropriate name calling. I just read the entire thread (since my last post) and it's just ridiculous, i'm gonna see what I can do to have that sh*t removed. what new player is gonna wanna sift through all that garbage to find actual Sagat knowledge?

I'm on the East Coast and usually on at night so hit up a challenge and see what a real sagat player plays like.

hope you can send out tiger shots quick enough....

Posted by suck my dick on March 16, 2009 at 12:29 p.m. #156

lol @ all the cocky bastards that think they're world champions

Posted by VicSlick on March 16, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. #157

Whenever I try to dash cancel his uppercut to get underneath the guy, and land the high step kick into the ultra, I always "over-dash" and end up on the other side of the guy, or I do it too late. Any tips on the timing of canceling the ultra to dash right underneath your opponent?

Posted by dunyet on March 17, 2009 at midnight #158

Sagat is so powerful I stopped being him cause i got tired of constnatly playn Ryu.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 17, 2009 at 7:09 a.m. #159

@ V Lang

you sure you been reading the right posts? boobles said 'anyone competent with sagat should play a zoning and footsie game' i countered that by saying its possible to stay away and to look at it from that perpective. what did he do? go read again to find out.

i never did say his standing hard kick isnt good. neither did i say i always do a wake up tiger uppercut. i did say the ex uppercut and i did say the ex tiger knee. they both come out quick and are unexpected.

anyway ive moved on quite abit from then with sagat. you think you can play with sagat? you got another thing coming.

as soon as the PS3 version of SF4 is in my hands. iyou'll be my first challenge. :-)

@vicstick

thats har with a pad. it works best with a fightstick.

what i suggest is, start from the tiger uppercut to FADC to step kick.

so go in training, not challenge, and start doing tiger uppers to FADC and work from that point step by step until youve mastered the move.

then watch when you go into challenge you'll forget everything lol but keep trying!!

Posted by VicSlick on March 17, 2009 at 8:24 a.m. #160

Haha yeah, I'm starting to get the feeling that a lot of these moves are hard to pull off without a fightstick, might have to look into that investment, thanks for the tips, I'll let you know how it goes.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 17, 2009 at 11:28 a.m. #161

@VicSlick

make sure you map the controls properly on the pad. unfortunately the way the pad is, i can only map my buttons for kick players, so like guile, bison, sagat are the ones i use. i cant be ken or akuma online as you cant change the controls whilst youre there which is understandable but it is disappointing when you want to pick a character which can counter his.

so i tend to mix it up with guile or bison, but mostly im always sagat.

its gonna be hard and the hand will hurt like hell. ive been thinking about investing in a fightstick. not the madcatz ones though theyre just too expensive.

Posted by sakujo on March 17, 2009 at 7:25 p.m. #162

does anyone know what to do against campy guiles and p***y blankas
thanks!!!!!

Posted by berwyn on March 18, 2009 at 3:13 a.m. #163

spam projectiles and standing hk

Posted by 0357 on March 18, 2009 at 11:30 a.m. #164

I win more than half the time against Sagat online with ken, zangief, and balrog (my three favorites). I don't think he's overpowered. He's easy to punish when he misses moves...as are all shoto's except for distance-minded akuma! In the right hands, any character could beat me though because I'm no where near a tornament calibur player. Anyways I just wanted to say that reading all the posts here was hilarious! I got my drama for the day! lol. Very entertainting stuff.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 18, 2009 at 2:15 p.m. #165

i just lost frikkin 600 battle points in about an hour FFS cant believe it.

lost to bloody kens! and a guile. and a blanka! ive been on it too long thought id take a bleeding break before i lose some more. im soooooo frikkinnnnnn pissedddddd.

Ken has this thing where, if he backs you in the corner, he just keeps doing his focus which keeps knocking ya down man i got into that one but i think i got tired and my play n charge kit wasnt plugged in...(excuses lol)

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 18, 2009 at 2:17 p.m. #166

by the way, i always search for 'more skilled' players.

i never play a quick match or search for anything lower than my score at the moment. think its the best way to learn, to play against someone who the xbox thinks is better than you.

plus you get more battle points if you win!!

Posted by ADE1977 on March 19, 2009 at 3:34 a.m. #167

If you want to get right in an opponents face from a full screen distance Sagats forward step kick (towards and lk) kara cancels into a tiger knee or even an Ex tiger knee. Input the TKnee before the kick comes out. Useful after Focus absorbing a fireball type move.

Posted by Sam on March 19, 2009 at 7:25 a.m. #168

whats sagat's weaknesses?

Posted by Finersuperbro on March 19, 2009 at 7:47 a.m. #169

WoW, fake kick was so hard, i even went as far as to tape the joystick to one side and switch the controls to everything being HK... i tried and spammed and jumped while buffering all i could. The funniest part about everything is that there is no actual forward in the command, just double tap HK... I played stf 3 so i know about drumming buttons as well as buffering. So to everyone refer to comment #94, works on ps3 too, i think..?!

Posted by ONE EYED PSYCHO on March 19, 2009 at 5:14 p.m. #170

one of sagats obvious weakness is his move/dash speeds r sloow!!
certain characters can give sagat a real hard time in the right hands, i.e. blanka, cammy, rose, and fei long because sagat is a zoning character. when the presure is breathing right in sagats face, it's hard to pull out that ex tiger upper or knee.
always plan to keep opponent either in sweep distance, or my favorite a couple steps away from edge of opposite corner to bait them in if they jump w/ stand hk or better yet ultra. angled jump + mp is a great move to use if opp. is trying to cross up or in ariel pursuit at close range
also don't abuse tiger shots especially against non projectile characters. most of all of them can make sagat pay!

thanx 4 all the helpful info on the king!!

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 20, 2009 at 10:37 a.m. #171

i think it would be helpful if people posted certain tactics against match-ups.

like for example, what you did with blanka or vega or zangief etc to beat them using sagat

Posted by Sagat's Fake Kick is on March 21, 2009 at 1:45 a.m. #172

Man i cant do fake kicks. Its bull, with normal ps3 controller... ive tried 324234 times it wont work :S

Posted by Diamondis on March 21, 2009 at 12:46 p.m. #173

Blank pisses me off. The only way to beat a Blanka is to go into turtle mode. If you get aggressive you'll get beaten by his rolls and his electric shock.

Fire off some tiger shots, see what Blanka comes back with. One of my favourite ways to get a Blanka player is to wait for them to do the roll that makes Blanka go into the air, block it, f.HK f.HK -> Ultra

Posted by ace of simonds on March 21, 2009 at 5:19 p.m. #174

I LIKE APPLESAUCE

Posted by rawr on March 21, 2009 at 5:42 p.m. #175

Sagat ain't OP yet for one reason - Try juggling with his Ultra. Talk about fail lol, try a f,d,f+HP (Hard Tiger Uppercut) FADC (Focus Cancel) into his Ultra.
'Wee I flew off the flaming uppercut!'

Posted by Kobe012 on March 21, 2009 at 8:15 p.m. #176

SAGAT's FAKE KICK:

If you have a fight stick, make a peace sign with your button hand. hit the button with your middle finger, then your index finger, 2 quick taps. If you have a controller, you can probably do the same thing, just tilt it so you can do that trick.

Thanks a lot that worked

Posted by jonnybobhelpme on March 22, 2009 at 8:09 a.m. #177

im having trouble kicking guiles a**. please help. any tactics?

a good guile really hurts me dudes. he does a sonic boom foolows behind it and when i block he immediately throws me and does all kindas other stuff please help.

Posted by 0357 on March 22, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. #178

THis is in reply to people whe have trouble with certain match ups. I main Sagat and find that he is quite well rounded. Here are some strategies that i do against characters.

Blanka- zone him with tiger shots from a distance, don't throw any tiger shots from medium range though because he could either jump it or slide under it. Don't try and throw him because of his electricity, instead hit him with a jab or two and back off. If he does his electricity punish it w/ low tiger shot. If you block his slide move you can punish it with crouching HK or a combo for even more damage. If you ever sense that your apponent is getting sloppy up close you need to tag him with an Ex tiger uppercut.

Vega- force him in the air with tiger shots and then punish his air moves with tiger upperuts. From up close the ex tiger knee is a great weapon because even if he blocks it the recovery time is good.

Zangief-I used to main Zangief. Now that I main Sagat, Zangief is by far the toughest match up for me! ALWAYS keep your distance. If Zangief is any closer than jump in range, he has the advantage. Shoot fast and slow tiger shots from across the screen to try and catch him as he lariats and jumps over them. If he starts to close in on you, do either an HK tiger knee or an ex tiger knee to propell yourself out of the corner and get away from him again. DON'T try and hit him during the lariat move, that thing has way too much priority and damage. Never attempt anything on wake up except either jumping away (unless you're up against a beginner who doesn't seem to be blocking much, or if he's spamming lariat as you wake up, in that case...ex tiger uppercut!). Most gief users love it when shoto players wake up with shryuken attacks so they can punish it (i know i used to!). If he jumps in at you you must either counter it with an anti air move, or jump away as he lands. Don't just stand there and block, otherwise he might catch you with a super or ultra as he lands.

Posted by xxx on March 22, 2009 at 8 p.m. #179

why is everybody just talkin about the fukin sagat???
there are more characters..

Posted by true skill5 on March 23, 2009 at 1:20 a.m. #180

well dumb*** maybe because you're in a sagat forum

Posted by 0357 on March 23, 2009 at 5:38 a.m. #181

Against guile's sonic boom, throw tactic...can you jump straight up and then kick him as he follows the sonic boom? Never tried it, but it seems like it would work or at least trade hits. Better than getting thrown. Of course, if you've got room to work, just match his sonic boom with a tiger shot, that's the easiest solution.

Posted by de bunk da junk on March 23, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. #182

zangief, even a good zangief, is going to have a hard time against a good sagat.

every sagat player should know, the best move you have against zangief is....STANDING HK.

this move is amazing against someone as big as zangief. just keep a little distance, not too much, and time the s.hk and it will connect. plus because you are on the ground the priority is yours.

also, you can time a tiger shot to hit him just after the lariat is finished. this will really mess up their game because theyll be more cautious of spamming that move.

just beware of the ex claw (greenhand). if its the normal greenhand, even this wont go through your standing HK.

try it and see how easy it is to kicka giefs but* with the standing HK

Posted by 0357 on March 23, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. #183

I can attest to that. When I used to main Zangief, i was beat by a Sagat online because he Standing HK'ed me every time i jumped in! It won't beat the Lariat though, neither will crouching HK, but an ex tiger knee should do the trick if he's lariating from sweep distance.

Posted by help meeeee on March 23, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #184

hey guys im having serious problems against good ryus online.

i just cant seem to do anything to these guys and they are really pi**ing me off!

these are the agressive ryus theyre always looking for ways to get in my face and are very good any help tactics or even vids would be useful on youtubve

Posted by 0357 on March 23, 2009 at 12:16 p.m. #185

Well, most agressive ryu's or kens that i've seen online love to jump in with combos. Every time they jump at you, you need to make them pay with a tiger upercut. That should slow them down a little. Just make sure you're not late with it because you'll eat their combo. If they do get inside, they like to do either throws or those annoying overhead moves (if you block low, they hit you, then you block high, they sweep you). Either of these tactics can be avoided by throwing some quick crouching jabs anytime your apponent is close enough for that stuff. Best thing to do with overly agressive players is let them beat themselves. Just make sure and punish any openings that they leave. The only times I lose to these types of players now is if I'm really not focusing, in other words, don't let your guard down.

Posted by zero on March 23, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #186

ex uppercut can be juggled with ultra?

Posted by 0357 on March 24, 2009 at 6:25 a.m. #187

I would assume that it is focus cacelled, dash cancel out of focus, and then pull off the ultra. A little too advanced for me still, but maybe one day.

Posted by EvilGreenDevil on March 24, 2009 at 7:05 a.m. #188

@zero - an ex uppercut can be juggled into ultra. This is one of the hard trials the game walks you through in the challenge mode. Personally I'm a big fan of the get-up ex tiger uppercut into ultra. If they're blocking any get-up uppercuts, then its not to hard to pull one off since it's got such high priority.

Posted by Voice of Texas on March 24, 2009 at 7:53 a.m. #189

Sagat...yes he is a Good character. But seriously, look at how many people complain about Ryu's and Ken's honestly I don't main him. It's not hard to use him, and everytime I play against a Sagat, all I do is pick Sagat and out Sagat him. This is due to the fact most Sagat players do one of these 4 things. 1: Jump in instantly into a Tiger uppercut.
2: Jump into a Tiger Knee. 3: Instantly throw Tiger Crush High or Low 4: Try to Tiger knee instantly.
How to counter all this heavy kick and block. Then use Sagat the right way, please people get good and stop being Scrubs.

Posted by Voice of Texas on March 25, 2009 at 1:14 p.m. #190

Correction on number 3 I mean Tiger shots. Hmm I guess I thought Tiger Crush for a fireball sounded cooler.

Posted by From Blue hypergiant to Voice of Texas on March 25, 2009 at 4:01 p.m. #191

ha ha! yea i play sagat as main... if a person turtles then i will throw a few tiger shots from aggravation but i prefer to set offensive traps and use short safe 3 hit combos if at all possible... if the guy is really annoying i will just use HK alot... i love to pressure people but x box live is 95% turtling so every victory and every loss is nerve wrecking...

Posted by void on March 26, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. #192

Is sagat going to be banned or nerfed anytime soon?

Posted by Blue Hypergiant on March 26, 2009 at 10:26 p.m. #193

Mr. void,

sagat is very stoppable and though he is a bit more powerful than a ken or ryu they are equally as threatening... kens shoryuken is devastating to say the least and the priority his jumping HK is pretty great there are tons of ways to keep him in his place but hey maybe i am biased since i know his weakness...

Posted by 0357 on March 27, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. #194

Agreed. Most of my defeats as a Sagat Player come at the hands of more skilled opponents. Simple as that. A highly skilled Blanka, Ryu, Zangief, Balrog, or any character for that matter can and has made short work of me. You want to talk about overpowering strength...look at Zangief!

Posted by sakujo on March 27, 2009 at 10:05 a.m. #195

Look bottom line is Sagat is a beast........ They call him the king for a reason! no but seriously you can fit you game to beat any charater also long as your opponent is closer to your skill level

Posted by SagatFan on March 27, 2009 at 11 a.m. #196

Sagat FTW! I love it when i go online and face the ken-lovers, i just give them the deadly tiger genocide into the tiger destruction. Sagats the best

Posted by ljay103 on April 2, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. #197

tired of playing RYU KEN AKUMA GOUKEN ETC?

Guile
Fei Long

add me on PSN: LJAY103

Posted by matt on April 3, 2009 at 10:19 a.m. #198

im having a hard time doing sagats first challenge on the normal trial #4 its a jumping h kick, crouching m kick, tiger knee crush into a tiger genocide, i can perform all of those moves alone but cant get the m kick into the tiger knee crush to count....any advice?

Posted by mass_22 on April 7, 2009 at 3:40 a.m. #199

No offence but that combo is like one of the easyest sagat combo ever

Posted by Mass on April 7, 2009 at 3:51 a.m. #200

Does anyone here like to hustle online, its so funy with sagat. i play the fisrt round like a kid, by tiger shots and upercuts followd by jumping hk. Its such an easy strat to counter. Then in the second round play a bit beter and win and in the third round play like a pro. no jumps at all standing hk for any ariel att and hLk to trip up. This works soo well as ur opp will think u dont know wat ur doin and will att full out. my fav finish combo has to be jump hk low lk (lp) mp Ex tiger upercut(or knee) canceld into super tiger genocide. this move kills plus i think it works with his ultra as well jus remove ex tiger upercut

Posted by mass on April 7, 2009 at 3:57 a.m. #201

sory matt didnt mean to b an ass......erm try to do the mk to knee realy fast (or you might be doin too fast). its also timing. wait for the mk to just connect then smash tiger knee and straight away without waiting for tiger knee to connect input genocide.

Posted by Masked Nobleman on April 8, 2009 at 4:44 p.m. #202

Would have loved to know that Jumping + Mash HK for the fake kick when I was going through NORMAL trials. I pulled it off the good ol' fashioned way.

Also I don't consider Sagat overpowered, at least in SFIV. His decreased speed from previous games definitely knocked him down a peg. He's still a REALLY good fighter, but just being strong doesn't mean he's overpowered. You just have to know how to deal with him.

Posted by KenB1988 on April 14, 2009 at 12:39 a.m. #203

Im searching for good Sagat player and good Abel player I main Abel and Sagat... I wanna learn new moves.....specially Abel player Hard to find Abel players...I play on PS3 so add me if wanna do friendlymatch..cuz Rank wont find each other easily.....So whos up for the match agains me add me on PS3

PSN: KenB19888

peace I playe Sagat cuz Im Thai myself XD....

Posted by matt on April 15, 2009 at 11:11 a.m. #204

its all good mass im not a baby....i wound up beating that challenge and it wouldnt let me post anything back for a few days...now im stuck on his Hard Challenge #3, as youve seen from my previous post im pretty new to the series. Im having a hard time not dashing underneath Dan's stupid ass after the upper cut into the FADC any advice??

Posted by light-yagami_31 on April 17, 2009 at 2:24 a.m. #205

ok i think im a decent sagat player, i can whip most blankas, guiles, some vegas but the worst charge player wait i dont mean like worst character, but anyway the 1 i have a hard time playing against online is balrogs(boxer) i know thwy just wait and charge and do whaterevr then when you close, they do low punches, its irritating but i dont know what it is any advice, p.s if you wanna play ps3 online, my id is my name

Posted by name on April 17, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. #206

i hope you play better than you write.

Posted by sagat-owned!!!! on April 17, 2009 at 1:38 p.m. #207

lots of online players that i have encountere that use sagat, have been owned. my main is guile and obviously sagat lacks speed. and just to screw around, i played with viper, fei, gen, and even dhalsim and didn't lose to sagat. i also use sagat, dont get me wrong, he's an awesome character. i think its just the people that use sagat. alot of his speed can come from a tiger knee to compensate his walking or dashing speed. im not bashing on sagat, but im informing the people that use him to take advantage of his tiger knee cause its so quick. if speed doesn't come in, he can be eaten by freaking dhalsim!

Posted by someone on April 18, 2009 at 10:32 a.m. #208

I do think that the fake kick is not complete useless nor is hard to execute. All u need to do is to "double click" HK, jus need to be fast.

Posted by ??? on April 18, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. #209

fake kick complete

Posted by dluna88 on April 20, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. #210

how do u beat har challenge number 2 i cant seem to do three crouching light kicks and then the uppercut at the end can someone help

Posted by dluna88 on April 20, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. #211

sorry hard challenge number 2 with sagat

Posted by yeah boi on April 21, 2009 at 11:21 a.m. #212

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Posted by vicslick on April 22, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. #213

any tips with the timing of his FADC uppercut cancelling into forward hard kick? it seems like the forward roundhouse kick goes right through the oppoent every time...

Posted by saikotik on April 23, 2009 at 1:10 p.m. #214

insanely fast is the answer!

Posted by Chemokeule on April 28, 2009 at 1:48 p.m. #215

Hello,
im playin this game now a while, somehow i've got the feeling that i don't improve anymore. I would like to ask a good Sagat Player to be my Sensei. My BP are currently 2690, lost 3 games in a row.....record was 3100 BP. So im not a noob,but im also not a pro. I would like to learn some combos,to use the focus attacks properly and some tactics. If you want to be my Sensei please contact me in the PSN. My nick is Chemokeule.

see ya around

Posted by kingofironfist0 on April 29, 2009 at 10:23 a.m. #216

yeah same here i got 2400bp just by doing tiger, tiger, tiger knee/uppercut. ive got no combos other than jump high kick, grab/focus, or jump kick, lowkick shorts into low tiger, its hard comboing with sagat due to his lack of speed.

Posted by philli on April 29, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. #217

hi im a noob at this and hav only just started playing street fighter iv and im afraid to say that im having problems performing the most simplest of attacks, i can do a tiger shot but whenever i try doing a tiger genocide i end up doing a tiger uppercut more often and not, i can occasionly perform the genocide please could one of you give me any insight as to what i may be doing wrong? thanks

Posted by grapez on May 1, 2009 at 1:49 a.m. #218

to philli
your move execution is probably sloppy, dont just mash the dpad, actually try doing the motion slowly at first, even with the slow command input you can still execute the move probably.
then try doing it faster and faster cause you'll need to pull them out fast to do combos.
if you didnt grow up with street fighter then its probably gonna be tough in the beginning. just dont give up. honestly, i couldnt do any of the more advanced combos either. just practice like 10 mins a day and by day 3 or 4 you should be getting out stuff you couldnt do before. the human body is just amazing at learning and adapting. those trials help a lot too.

Posted by grapez on May 1, 2009 at 1:51 a.m. #219

to vicslick
you have to do it almost by habit...you cant see the game progress and then try to time it. you just have to do it fast. you're basically inputting the commands even before you can visually see your character do the next move. get it? so you're probably doing it a little to slow. input the kick command as hes dashing.

Posted by Targethead on May 1, 2009 at 2 p.m. #220

i main sagat and abel but im stuck on sagats 3rd hard trial. pulling off some of these combos is really hard on the 360 controller is it better to use the dpad or thumbstick? imo scrub players are those that run or jump away and spam tiger shot/hadoukens and thats just about the majority of the sagats ive played online

Posted by philli on May 2, 2009 at 5:17 a.m. #221

kk, cheers grapez, ill keep practising

Posted by Thanasi on May 3, 2009 at 11:09 a.m. #222

Sagat has, like in Japan, become the most popular ranked character to play as. Really though he needs to be patched. He is simply too weak. I think most people play him because he's just so fun to use but can't hit hard or take damage. Until then I'll keep using him, but he is just so weak.

Posted by Chemokeule on May 3, 2009 at 11:37 a.m. #223

Hello,
im looking for some Blanka players who would like to spar with me. Im a Sagat player. Please contact me, or leave your nick here. My nick is Chemokeule

see ya

Posted by beacon hill on May 3, 2009 at 3:20 p.m. #224

can a standing hardkick be comod to a tiger uppercat? i cant get this to work.

Posted by V Langs on May 3, 2009 at 5:09 p.m. #225

@beacon hill

Yea it can, if you're quick. I always found the best times are after counter attacks. if you do a counter, you get an extra frame or two to deal more damage. scrubs won't take advantage of this, but people with some skill will definitely see the use in it. to be honest, most of the challenge combos i use are off of counter attacks.

moral of the story, get into training mode and beat up dan. make him a cpu or get a friend so that he fights and then work on your counters. it'll literally +10 your fighting skills.

oh and beacon hill, i wasn't lecturing this to you, it was just a public service announcement for all the board readers. your answer is yes. :-p

Posted by Anon on May 7, 2009 at 9:13 p.m. #226

Get off the D-Pad philli.
Learn to use analog for the smoother motions.

That translates to easier usage of QCFs and HCFs on a stick.

Posted by Bob Sagat on May 8, 2009 at 5:06 p.m. #227

Can anyone give me some BnB combos for good 'ol fagat

Posted by ADE1977 (Live ID) on May 15, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. #228

I noticed a few people having problems with cancelling a tiger uppercut and then moving forward too much to combo the towards+HK. The trick is to uppercut, press towards once then press towards and mp+mk for the focus. The focus is instantly cancelled by buffering towards before the focus input. Personally i favour the Ex TU, Ultra juggle as it uses less gauge.

Posted by Icy4Ger on May 18, 2009 at 5:54 a.m. #229

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Posted by bay boray on May 20, 2009 at 3:09 p.m. #230

good day . im having problems despatching vega characters , help please !

Posted by To All Sagat Users on May 24, 2009 at 12:53 a.m. #231

don't feel good using the hands down best char in the game, always remember you always have a crazy advantage from the get-go over opponents

Posted by Criszt on May 24, 2009 at 8:24 a.m. #232

Combos one can get with practice. However, really good players, after getting to know different characters, don't fight the character chosen by the opposing player. They read and fight the player itself. That only comes with experience, especially the old school players who've gone thru SF2, Kof till this current SF4. Wana win, play and play and play. And yea, players whom u can trash already dun bother. Go up against those you'd at least lose a few rounds to.

Posted by Mugen on May 24, 2009 at 8:59 p.m. #233

Standing HK does not combo into the ultra if it's an AA attack. Switch that with Forward Round house and you're good.

Posted by duh on May 30, 2009 at 7:52 a.m. #234

I hate Sagat. Go to hell!

Posted by Sagat on May 31, 2009 at 9:11 a.m. #235

Would you like some Cornflakes?

Posted by Haha on June 1, 2009 at 3:07 a.m. #236

Cheapest and easiest character to use in the game hands down. Unless your a beginner you should be laughed at for using him.

Posted by B.A.L. on June 11, 2009 at 5:07 p.m. #237

Sagat hating is getting a bit old, dude. He is NOT cheap. Yes, he is damn strong, and yes he has high stamina (but not the highest), but he has disadvantages. He doesn't have massive combo's, he is big and slow, and his ultra only hits half in a lot of situations, and can even miss completely even tough it connected (I've been in situaties where the tiger knee part of the ultra hit but the fire uppercut missed completely). Furthermore Tiger Knee is quite punishable in most situations. I still don't get why people comment here just to diss Sagat players, when this is a Sagat page. He is not cheap, stop yer whining, or face my mighty barage of Tiger Shots!

TIGER!!!

Posted by Overpowered on June 13, 2009 at 11:21 p.m. #238

Sagat needs to be nerfed. Period. Yeah so what if he doesn't have long many hit combos? A simple 3 hit combo takes away half of most characters life! He has advantage from a distance spamming tiger shots and his knee and uppercut stuffs most pokes. On top of that he has high stamina AND a very versitle ultra with many ways to combo into it. It's truly frustrating and a bit ridiculous.

Posted by Goat. on June 14, 2009 at 9:56 a.m. #239

Hi.. Im Kelvin fr Singapore. Im usin Sagat at my workplace but it seems i cant ctrl it well, any1 can guide 2 bcm a pro Sagat player?

Posted by B.A.L. on June 14, 2009 at 2:17 p.m. #240

Spam tiger shot (but watch out for ultra's), learn to proper space tiger knee, watch out with tiger uppercut, learn to juggle with forward roundhouse, and time your ultra's well

Posted by Anon on June 15, 2009 at 12:29 p.m. #241

Sagat is the best character in the game. Statistics don't lie - there is a reason he is the "winningest" character in tournaments: http://curryallergy.blogspot.com/

He has tools for pretty much every situation and on top of that has high stamina. I play him when it's all about business although I prefer to play Ryu when it's just for fun.

Posted by gunnah on June 15, 2009 at 8:34 p.m. #242

best combo i have come up with sagat so far

jumping hard kick, crouching medium kick, hard tiger knee crush, ex focus attack cancel, hard tiger uppercut, ex focus attack cancel, tiger destruction. this works so well on charge characters and characters who like to fukin block looool

Posted by bay boray on June 19, 2009 at 2:57 p.m. #243

these vega's r p****** me off ! how do u kill em ?

Posted by B.A.L. on June 19, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. #244

Beware of cross-up, and just hit them out of their wall jumping antics. His attack have zero priority, you can simply hit him out of one.

Posted by bay boray on June 21, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #245

thanks B.A.L .

Posted by 3D on June 23, 2009 at 7:51 a.m. #246

i agree with B.A.L on the sagat hating subject. My most used combo is jumping mid kick,crouching mid kick into ex tiger crush knee

Posted by Don on June 24, 2009 at 9:53 p.m. #247

Anyone ever noticed how Sagat is popping up a whole lot nowadays online?

Posted by someone on June 25, 2009 at 1:46 p.m. #248

Goat.: I am also from Singapore and my main is Sagat. Where do you play at? Are you new to SF4? I can maybe teach a trick or two

Posted by Why? on June 26, 2009 at 1:14 p.m. #249

Why do you guys have the ultimate weapon in Sagat, but instead of trying to annihilate your opponent, you are satisfied with spamming tiger shot and playing "keep away" for 99 seconds???

How is that fun? Why not be the monster you truly are...stop being afraid to lose and unlock your true potential...otherwise you deserve to be disconnected against...its no fun playing a "scaredy-cat" Sagat.

Your cowardice may have saved you today...now go home and be a family man.

Posted by bay boray on June 27, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. #250

Why is right ! let there be no holding on back ,on all those who step to sagat .u hear wat i sayin ! forget that fireball game , an infiltrate with tiger kness , and ex crushes . Make these busters put down the pad , and turn to mortal kombat !

Posted by TIGER UPPERCUT on June 28, 2009 at 2:44 a.m. #251

Ok, I've made it to G2-E solely with sagat, I'll give starters some tips, and my opinon of Sagat's advantages and disadvantages:
Tiger Uppercut, this will be your saving grace, if an enemy is in the process of linking a combo, instead of holding back praying you'll block one, spam the hell out of tiger uppercut, if their timing is a billionth of a second off, yours connects and you now have an upper hand.

Tiger Knee, this is a great fielder. I start matches with this and knock jumpers out of the sky, use sparingly and only for surprise attacks though, if the opponent catches on and blocks one, you'll take a long nap on the floor for it.

Back+Throw, holy crap, capcom gave Sagat one of the better throws in the game. Big damage, and it will bewilder the opponent.

Heavy Kick, everything you can do with heavy kick is golden. Sagat's huge damage, sometimes even a flying heavy kick into a sweep kick (down hk) will do the trick with a decent chunck of damage.

Situational Awareness, Sagat doesnt combo very well, his jabs are slower than others, so base your attacks on the opponents mistakes. They carelessly jumped: tiger knee, they stand on your body, tiger uppercut. They decide to throw some projectiles your way, counter with a rapid fire tiger shot spam.

Advantages:
+Huge damage per hit
+Great range game
+Great wakeup
+Rather nice Anti-Air
+Strong EX
+Super links into Tiger knee with high damage output

Disadvantages:
-Lack of jab game
-Not a lot of crossup
-Failed tiger uppercuts leave self wide open
-Ultra will be your demise if it fails
-Sloooooooooow

Posted by Madness on June 29, 2009 at 11:12 p.m. #252

"Your cowardice may have saved you today...now go home and be a family man."

Lol niiiice

Posted by blzd on July 1, 2009 at 5:16 p.m. #253

where is the trial video?

Posted by ebows on July 1, 2009 at 7:04 p.m. #254

sagat has a vag in his yello alternate

Posted by NEWBIE on July 2, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. #255

What are focus attacks? and i dunno how to cancel
any understandable explanations

Posted by zero-rest on July 2, 2009 at 10:15 a.m. #256

gd point an wat about different lvl focus attacks

Posted by none on July 4, 2009 at 6:24 a.m. #257

i cant do the super.......... i do it good but its regular fire bolt

Posted by Turk on July 5, 2009 at 6:14 p.m. #258

Guys I just got the game a few days ago. At first I got owned online but then I learned from experiences and seriously Sagat kicks the s--t out of ppl. But I really hate akumas who jump and hadouken + that ultra hadouken (fire) but if u time right when he is jumping you mostly defeat that sob.
Anyway I just beat a gay Blanka xD

Add me on PSN: MajinSamurai

Posted by sagathater on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 p.m. #259

sagat is a great dude, i like his story, his apearence. the wicked scar and his fighting style. BUT hes the gayest character in the game. (mainly when hes cpu controlled hardest but some players also use this method) tiger punch (keep that going until the oponent closes the distance) tiger knee, keep the tiger punches going and keep doing that till you have won.
its just so gay, rye ken and all the others who have a decent ranged attack dont do that but he does and its just so... gay lol.
you can beat it yeah but its no easy match exactly. if you compare it to other players spaming attacks and how they suck if they spam them non stop.
so yeah final point being, sagat i hate because he can beat you even in the hands of a spaming rtard

Posted by sagat lover on July 11, 2009 at 1:33 p.m. #260

sagat is the best character

Posted by joeyy2time on July 11, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. #261

hey guys i am a master sagat player in G1 i have 32609 gp and im ranked 43 in grade points last time i checked. Sagat is definitely a great character but its not like he is ridiculously over powered. I hate how kids just complain about how sagat is over powered because its not about the character its about how well you play with that character. its all about the player not the character especially when your playing top ranked kids. if any of you sagat players out there want any help on defeating other characters and what strategies to use let me know i have them all down packed. my gamertag is the name that i use in this blog. so if you need any help send me a message. i play each character different and i dont just spam tiger shots.

the best thing to learn with sagat is his uppercut ex cancel to foward round house to ultra. you can also do a j.mp and combo right into your uppercut to te cancel to the kick to the ultra. i use that a lot against fireballers.

hopefully i hear from some of you that need help.

Posted by joeyy2time on July 11, 2009 at 2:37 p.m. #262

oh ya i forgot to add in that i play on 360 not ps3 but i can help those on ps3 also if they have any questions on here. all hard trials done and i know all his combos.

Posted by bay boray on July 11, 2009 at 6:40 p.m. #263

I need your help joey . im having a bit of trouble with gouken characters . how can they be killed ?

Posted by Spikestar on July 12, 2009 at 3:09 a.m. #264

How to you time Sagats Ultra after the EX-Tiger Uppercut?

Posted by huhu on July 12, 2009 at 7:42 a.m. #265

Sagat = God Tier . He's basicly the Chun-Li of Third Strike on Steroid.

Awesome priority
Awesome Hitpoints
Awesome Standard Move
Awesome Juggling Ability
Awesome Special attack

He's awesome but which mean .. 90 % use him online for ranked match(Ryu and Ken are next) and 75% use him in tournament .

He's beatable though.I play mostly Gouken online and i can beat some sagat player(whom aren't scrubs either)

But he's a beast and he's intimidating.You feel more comfortable playing Sagat than Dan let's assume

Posted by Master on July 12, 2009 at 10:38 p.m. #266

Posted by Spikestar on July 12, 2009 at 3:09 a.m. #266

How to you time Sagats Ultra after the EX-Tiger Uppercut?

most the time it works perfectly is when ur opponent jumps in then u use ur ex tiger uppercut and as soon as u land .. ultra straight away, ur opponent must be either above ur head or cannot be seen during the scene where sagat crosses his arms during the ultra start up, its harder to time the ultra when u use ex uppercut when ur opponent is on the ground though, just keep practicing soon it will be a breeze

Posted by Spikestar on July 13, 2009 at 1:04 a.m. #267

Posted by Master on July 12, 2009 at 10:38 p.m. #268

Posted by Spikestar on July 12, 2009 at 3:09 a.m. #266

How to you time Sagats Ultra after the EX-Tiger Uppercut?

most the time it works perfectly is when ur opponent jumps in then u use ur ex tiger uppercut and as soon as u land .. ultra straight away, ur opponent must be either above ur head or cannot be seen during the scene where sagat crosses his arms during the ultra start up, its harder to time the ultra when u use ex uppercut when ur opponent is on the ground though, just keep practicing soon it will be a breeze

Thank you for your help Master.

Posted by João da Silva on July 14, 2009 at 7:33 a.m. #268

I'am Brazilian , and the Best fighter of Sf4 is Blanka!

Posted by El Chéf on July 21, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. #269

I'm a poor bitter El Fuerte player come to scope out the competition. You bastards... So much damage... so... much damage... I see you are swapping tricks on how to combo into the ridiculously overpowered ultra! One day you'll get what you deserve, you'll see. Dash/sf4 Turbo will come out and El Fuerte will be stronger or more resilient or both and i'll pound you bitches into Thai Noodles.

Real men cook.

Posted by raghucbz on July 22, 2009 at 8:51 a.m. #270

El Fluerte can suck Sagat's Thai balls :-D

Posted by for joeyy2time on July 23, 2009 at 9:42 a.m. #271

are you on PSN? my gamertag is: blackhawk997989. add me! i am currently a G2. maybe you can give me some tips on strategies etc to hit G1.

Posted by Tired player on July 23, 2009 at 2:14 p.m. #272

I haven't read through all the comments but I just have to pop in and give a few good ol' flames...

First of all, is the pro and cons not listed because of being lazy? x), or is it so obvious that he has no flaws?

Secondly, Are people so desperate to win that they have to pick the most overpowered character in the game? since almost all top players use him... (G1-E 15397GP Xbox360)

And third, ... Anyone heard of an update coming soon or at all? :P

Broken Game ftw

Posted by lolzor on July 27, 2009 at 3:07 p.m. #273

people who main saggat are pathetic losers, seriously he is so freaking overpowered that he is the main reason why sf4 sucks.

Posted by ASDAD on July 27, 2009 at 8:44 p.m. #274

@lolzor

he might be very strong but his footsies game is very bad hes too slow... someone with godo knowlege of footsies will give him problems.. quit complaining

Posted by Stumped on July 28, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. #275

How do i beat a good Guile? Not the typical turtle type but the kind that seems to have intimate knowledge of all of my moves and combos?

Posted by Nobo on July 30, 2009 at 2:01 a.m. #276

I also think this character suck, adding that i personally don't like him, he sucks playing against.

He is ballanced if it is good or pro against good or pro, the problem is with the beginners.
Yesterday I palyed a total noob and he really sucked he only one 1 out of 15 games and that was with this guy becaus he spamed fireballs and ducked in the corner.. (lame) but verry effactive and as you know he does hell of a damage... i did hit him more often but have a charge char (chun li) so cant really do much damage fast...

Posted by rychu130 on August 5, 2009 at 1:34 a.m. #277

I think he isn't overpowered. If you think like that, you haven't played against Zangief or Blanka.

Posted by hobohitman on August 7, 2009 at 2:26 p.m. #278

@rychu130

if u think blanka is over powered u need to seriously stop playing this game lol. Imo both sagat and ryu are broken, with ryu being worst. Maybe its online lag but there should be no reason that ryu can mash jab dp and not be punished.

Posted by joeyy2time on August 11, 2009 at 6:03 p.m. #279

if any of you guys are having problems out there with honda here is a little trick, its tough to do but it definitely works. you obviously dont want to let honda get inside against sagat. honda is strong. a good move that can get honda in is the headbutt across the screen. if u see honda doing a medium or strong headbutt just block it and, once you get down the timming, you can do the f+hk kara uppercut and you can hit them without being blocked. if you dont know what the kara uppercut is then you should know what the foward roundhouse kick is. well as sagat steps foward during that kick you need to tiger uppercut before the kick. its almost immediately after you hit f+hk you enter in the uppercut. the f+lk kara uppercut wont work. only f+hk. if you land it you can go right into the FADC, f+hk, ultra.

Posted by joeyy2time on August 11, 2009 at 6:05 p.m. #280

oh and it only works with a sagat blocking while standing. you cant be crouched and still do the move without having block it. sagat needs to be standing when the headbutt is blocked

Posted by damnnoobs on August 14, 2009 at 6:23 a.m. #281

Everyone always cries about Sagat.

Yes he is strong but he isn't overpowered. His ultra dosn't hit for **** in the corner. His uppercuts arn't as good as ryu's(angle/speed not power)He gets clustered if you keep mean pressure on him aka balrog.

All he has is that high step kick into ultra that everyone complains about...

Well this is Street Fighter noob.... Don't jump all the time and you'll be alright

Posted by Bushin22 on August 15, 2009 at 8:13 a.m. #282

I personally never used Sagat in this game outside Arcade Mode.
But faced him numerous times (always with Cammy)...

He's the Emperor of Offensive Defense.

To get the upper hand on him,you must do some mind games and tons of pressure on him.
Trying to lure some Ex-Tiger Uppercut reversals while you defend is a good alternative while you destroy him in return.
his tiger knee is also dangerous,because he can link his Ultra in it.

He's a character for pros and Noobs that got tired of Ryu and Ken IMO... XD

Posted by Sagat!! on August 16, 2009 at 4:12 p.m. #283

Yeah boyee Sagat is beastly

Posted by Double Typhoon on August 17, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. #284

Sagat is getting slightly tweaked in Dash. His Tiger Knee is going to do quite a bit less damage.

Posted by Doubletyphoonlol on August 21, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. #285

Double Typhoon stop pulling stuff out your a**. Dash dosn't even exit at this point for one and I don't think the tiger knee is what everyone is worried about either you Jacka**

Posted by MetalKA on August 23, 2009 at 10:28 p.m. #286

someone know how to do the dam Fake kick??? i try , try try, but nothing

Posted by Kharazivoid on August 27, 2009 at 12:33 a.m. #287

press 2x high kick

Posted by Kharazivoid on August 27, 2009 at 12:33 a.m. #288

very fast

Posted by Kharazivoid on August 27, 2009 at 12:34 a.m. #289

Sagat have the best high kicks in game

Posted by Blue Lightning on August 29, 2009 at 5:14 a.m. #290

How do I do his fake kick? I can't do it at all o_o

Posted by Sagat on September 1, 2009 at 5:21 p.m. #291

Sagat is for pussies who want an easy win.

Posted by hemmerroid on September 2, 2009 at 4:17 p.m. #292

I used to play as E Honda, but I got sick and tired of always fighting Ryu, Ken and Akuma. So now I switched to Sagat for no other reason than it's easy to beat Ryu Ken and Akuma. If everybody would stop playing as those three characters ALL THE TIME, I'd drop Sagat and go back to Honda.

Posted by SF4noob on September 3, 2009 at 8:54 a.m. #293

hemmerroid: sagat is lame, and he is relatively easy to beat with ryu or ken. maybe not akuma since he has weak stamina, and sagat is overpowered. its like oil and water. i agree that most people use ryu, ken, akuma, and sagat. but, with that being said, not everyone uses the characters the same way. as "cheap" as most ryu and ken users usually are, there are some pretty good ryu and ken players out there that do some pretty nice combos with either of them. most people stand in the corner and throw tiger shots the whole time, wait for u to jump in, then tiger knee or uppercut. but its so easy to get out of that if u are the opponent. just be patient, wait for an opportunity to strike, and let sagat have it. his combos are totally useless inside, and thats one of his major weaknesses. sagat is A+ from far away cuz of his tiger shot throwing ability but, once u get inside on him, he folds up like a lawn chair. i hate sagat users. theres hardly any people that use sagat, that dont spam u the whole time. fact.

Posted by Sagat on September 5, 2009 at 12:45 a.m. #294

hemmerroid on September 2, 2009 at 4:17 p.m. #294

"I used to play as E Honda, but I got sick and tired of always fighting Ryu, Ken and Akuma. So now I switched to Sagat for no other reason than it's easy to beat Ryu Ken and Akuma. If everybody would stop playing as those three characters ALL THE TIME, I'd drop Sagat and go back to Honda."

My point exactly.

Posted by canabalistic999 on September 10, 2009 at 6:45 p.m. #295

Sagat is a beast as we all know but to me it seems like so many people are playing as him just cause he is top tier. But for people who actually know street fighter well or people who are not scrubs and can handle their own online here a few simple and more advanced combos that have worked very well for me against people online and local

Bread and Butter: j.HP->c.MK->heavy tiger uppercut
Bread and Butter 2: j.HP->c.HP (Better chance of landing but less damage also more time to get ready for their get up)
Super set up: j.HP->c.MK->medium low fireball->super (530 damage this is a beastly combo)
Anti-air: Anti-air kick->Hard Tiger Knee
Anti-air 2:Anti-air kick-> Ultra

Now for the harder stuff
Ultra set up: hard uppercut->FADC->Ultra ( possibly the fastest set up for the ultra with out using anti-air)
Ultra set up 2: j.HP->c.MK->EX Fireball high or low->ultra (your opponents back must hit the wall after the EX Fireball)
The big finisher:j.HP->c.MK->hard uppercut->FADC->Ultra (you can also leave out the c.MK or only use the c.MK but for max damage use all of them)

Posted by MitlaMit on September 13, 2009 at 9:28 a.m. #296

There's another funny Ultra set up with Sagat : jumping HP. If time correctly (which isn't too hard to do) you'll link the Ultra right in the hitstun, and with a full charged Ultra this means a 605 damage combo with no pricey FADC involved.

Posted by JunaidKhan on September 15, 2009 at 9:28 a.m. #297

I play with Sagat and Ishaq (both ishaqs), xohaib, online ppl and i lose all the time....

Posted by Alone Goliatps3 on September 15, 2009 at 7:04 p.m. #298

Hit me up someday, i main bison, but sagat has couple of intersting moves jaja, including the fake kiks, it scares noob when they see you doing it often lol, and yo cant relly say his slow, since hes able to cover the hole screen with a yellow kneewith the extra step of course(lk forward) and it will surely hit since they dont expect it, its amazingli usefull with the uppercut aswell since your reach is significantly incresed... Hes cheap ofcourse, but if u compare to ken, well, sagat is not for amateurs sertainly. since he is so strong its really hard to get a decnt combo(5 or more hits).

Posted by HolyG on September 20, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. #299

MitlaMit & canabalistic999 , just curious why you favour jumping HP over HK or MK? I thought the range was better on the kicks and in the case of MK saves me from having to change buttons to do the 3 hit BnB combo lol...

And for all the people saying SAGAT is overpowered I reckon that rings true if there's two noobs playing that only know how to use special moves as Sagat's do great damage.

Sagat's crossup is garbage though and his light punches and kicks won't chain, only link so you really need to have immpecable timing. Compare this to Ryu or Ken who have a great crossup, can land and chain light attacks (to hit confirm) into a special move for great damage. Also Sagat's recovery from moves is massive (compare to Ken!), if you miss you're gonna get punished...

Posted by MitlaMit on September 22, 2009 at 2:24 p.m. #300

It's essentially a matter of damage and hitstun for linking the Ultra afterwards. Of course kicks have better rage, but HP deals 140 freakin' damage !

Posted by Bucky on September 22, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. #301

He's looking like a punching bag now.

Posted by HolyG on September 22, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. #302

Thanks MitlaMit - didn't realise the HP did more damage, will have to pay more attention to the data in training!

I was trying to link the Ultra after the HP... is it really possible? Is it from a Jump in or when you hit a jumping opponent in the air with HP?

Cheers

Posted by Blood Spilahhhh on September 23, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. #303

not that good dude try some harder combos like// crouch light kick into crouch light punch into crouch medium kick into heavy uppercut ex cancel dash high stepkick into U L T R A \\ get it ............. ;-\

Posted by Blood Spilahhhh on September 23, 2009 at 3:30 p.m. #304

Sagat iz da champ dude just try 2 adjust timing and then he can take Ryu Ken and Akuma at the same time ...........m da best Sagat in N Y

Posted by Krochos on September 24, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. #305

Ugh he's highly over rated, he's only dominant when u don't know how to play.
As for combos on him I noticed this page missed to see the obvious link of:

Jump+HK, Heavy uppercut>FADC,"anti air", ultra

Or wat I like to use:

Jump+HK, c.LK(or MK), ex tiger shot>FADC, ultra

2 easy yet missed combos. Amazing isn't it?

Posted by NovaGnome24 on September 28, 2009 at 12:24 p.m. #306

The control scheme in this game is horrible D:

Posted by bloodspillaidiot on September 30, 2009 at 11:15 p.m. #307

bloodspillah that medium kick wouldnt work smart guy

Posted by @303 & 307 on October 3, 2009 at 11:20 p.m. #308

Yep the clp's not gonna link with the cmk.

Posted by Thatguy on October 7, 2009 at 1:25 p.m. #309

What was Caocom thinking?

Posted by Thatguy on October 7, 2009 at 1:25 p.m. #310

Capcom

Posted by Shkudde on October 11, 2009 at 3:46 p.m. #311

The ultra works from both the jump-in HP and HK, and i got it to link from jump-in MP and MK as well in training mode, although the timing was really strickt, kinda felt like i fluked it.

Posted by BEST on October 15, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. #312

I am a KEN user. I am in g1 with 34,000 gp right now. I played street fighter for quite a while now, grew up playing it. Basically its a part of me. Now about Sagat, he is pretty strong and has some cheap juggleing ability. But theres always ways around him. U lose some u win some. I can beat him any day all day. Want to test my Ken here is my gamer tag.................B3stoftheBest...........................

Posted by Scooby4 on October 19, 2009 at 3:36 a.m. #313

@305 / Krochos

Are you stupid? Sagat is not overrated. His rating is based on all matchups.

Let me guess, you play Ryu, Ken, and/or Akuma.

Sagat's strength is that 1/2 the cast have BAD MATCHUPS against Sagat. Zangief, Honda, Dalshim, etc. Literally 1/2 of all the characters suck against Sagat. Other characters like Ken or Blanka are 5-5 with Sagat.

If you think Sagat is overrated, let's see your Honda or Rose vs my Sagat.

Posted by Sagat-is-4-scrubs on October 19, 2009 at 2:19 p.m. #314

sagat is for scrubs

Posted by Thatguy on October 20, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. #315

^
What he said

Posted by Follaguiris on October 25, 2009 at 1:46 a.m. #316

Ex moves don't work in computer.

Posted by Luke on November 2, 2009 at 8:29 a.m. #317

@BEST nobody cares how many grade points you have, online play is an utter joke and should never be taken seriously. Just makes you look dumb.

Posted by ED on November 4, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. #318

Yeah, Sagat is a beast.

I don't care, though. I'll still use the chars I like the most.

But it's funny to see that still many people rather play as Ken or Ryu, specially Ken, beliving they're the best chars in the game. That choice would obviously be Sagat, but the general public is so used to fight as a shoto, that they can't even notice the obvious truth.

As for me, I'm a Cammy player. I tend to use Gouken a lot, too.

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