Posted by MasterHadou on September 11, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. #1

Well Ryu is good but his ultra and super moves seems to be doing too little damage compared to other fighters.

Posted by alias on September 23, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. #2

yeah i agree,his super n ultra hit really soft in comparison...i guess its because of their hit potential...

Posted by titantim on September 24, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. #3

I've been playing since it came out, and Ryu has an easy uppercut/super combo which is probably why they made it a little lighter than others.

Posted by nong shim on October 23, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. #4

I've tried to do crouching lp/mp followed by crouching mk/hp but it never combos properly.
Is there strict timing for this sort of combo? Anyone help?

Posted by Metsu Hadouken on November 11, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. #5

You forgot the crouching lk + crouching lp + crouching mp + hurricane kick lol.

Posted by nong shim on November 12, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. #6

I did crouching lp + crouching mp but the mp doesn't connect. Can anyone do these links properly?

Posted by Metsu Hadouken on November 13, 2008 at 12:40 a.m. #7

I think the only thing is that the opponent has to be standing and not crouching... I saw a video of Daigo trying this combo but he was crouching... Also i think the timing is very strict, but possible... Or else why would Daigo try it? lolol.

Posted by Shirin Rivalz on November 14, 2008 at 4:31 a.m. #8

so, off all his old ultra moves, the only one left is Shinkuu/Metsu Hadouken? what happenned to Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku, Shin Shoryuken? it just sucks...

Posted by pcmacro on November 14, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. #9

"so, off all his old ultra moves, the only one left is Shinkuu/Metsu Hadouken? what happenned to Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku, Shin Shoryuken? it just sucks..."

I am wondering the same, they could of gave us the option to choose our super move like in SF3

Posted by Shirin Rivalz on November 14, 2008 at 7:51 p.m. #10

That would be perfect

Posted by D3T0X on December 1, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. #11

Ryu's better than Gouki just saying.

Posted by Carmine on December 4, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. #12

Hurricane Kick has armor break. It will break focus on the first hit.

Posted by RyuCharPlayerStillInTraining on December 9, 2008 at 6:10 a.m. #13

Is this guide gonna have videos for those combos and how to properly execute them for every character cause it would definitely make it easier for me!!And i really would like to see a video of someone juggling with both his super and ultra!!

Posted by MRT3ABAG on January 1, 2009 at 3:28 p.m. #14

Nice guide, i've tried all the combos and it worked. just hard to pull of the 5th one.

Posted by berwyn on January 6, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. #15

try crouching lk, crouching lp, crouching hp xx hk hurricane kick. 4 hits, easy to link, pretty decent damage.

Posted by will on January 19, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. #16

you know what pisses me off when little asses play turtle with ryu, I was playing then this kid just turtles with ryu i jump he shyruken's i stay far away he throws fire balls or just stay crouched down

Posted by will on January 19, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. #17

""so, off all his old ultra moves, the only one left is Shinkuu/Metsu Hadouken? what happenned to Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku, Shin Shoryuken? it just sucks..."

I am wondering the same, they could of gave us the option to choose our super move like in SF3"

remember the story line is between 2 and 3
so the title of the game should be street fighter 2 1/2

ryu didn't learn his shin shyruken yet, his master knows it

Posted by james on January 19, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. #18

"remember the story line is between 2 and 3
so the title of the game should be street fighter 2 1/2

ryu didn't learn his shin shyruken yet, his master knows it"

...but wasn't he able to use it in Alpha3? story line makes no sense

Posted by BHeaggans on January 22, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. #19

Thats why you never get caught up in the street fighter story. Because in SF2 Ryu didn't have the Shin Shoryuken but he did have in Alpha/Zero 3 in which was the events that happened before 2.

Posted by Moy025 on January 22, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. #20

who cares!!!! Ryu Is still sick as HECK!

Posted by XaX on January 22, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. #21

I think Ryu does just fine with the Metsu Hadouken, he doesn't need anything else

Posted by BHeaggans on January 26, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. #22

Yes I agree. I have seen alot of videos of really good Japanese Ryu players on you tube. I believe that he is really powerful in this game. And that his game revolves around his juggles, so execution is a must.

Posted by Haaris Abbasi on January 27, 2009 at 4 p.m. #23

From what I understand of the SF storyline, it goes like this:

Street Fighter 1 and 2 are from the original storyline.
Alpha series is a side storyline that starts from the middle of part 1 and ends at the same time as part 2 (i.e.: Alpha 3 corresponds to events before and after SSF2T). Street Fighter 3 is the original storyline and SFIV takes place in between 3 and 2

Posted by dvn on January 28, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. #24

"you know what pisses me off when little asses play turtle with ryu, I was playing then this kid just turtles with ryu i jump he shyruken's i stay far away he throws fire balls or just stay crouched down"

I lol'd.

Posted by D3T0X on January 30, 2009 at 1:55 a.m. #25

Don't worry about that, he's just a NOOB!

Posted by Kira on January 31, 2009 at 5:09 a.m. #26

Ryu's Shoryuken, Focus Attack Dash Cancel into Ultra -> that's really possible to make all these moves before the opponent hit the floor ?

PS : i have only played to SF2 Turbo.

Posted by Daigo on January 31, 2009 at 4:53 p.m. #27

With training everything it's possible ^^

Posted by D3T0X on February 1, 2009 at 1:55 a.m. #28

True that!

Posted by COMBO MASTER on February 1, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. #29

I'm gonna make some new combos with Ryu.

I'm planning two hadouken's cancelled into an ultra, which will cancel into a focus and then another super.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 1, 2009 at 6:29 p.m. #30

To Combomaster..

I don't know if it will work but you can try it. But do remember that with damage scaling that combo may not be worth the effort.

Posted by monkey bwains on February 3, 2009 at 1:03 a.m. #31

ive been playin SFIV in the arcades recently but im having a hard time doing a FADC after the Hard shoryuken connects, any advice?

Posted by berwyn on February 3, 2009 at 1:17 a.m. #32

just do it as fast as possible, especially pressing mp+mk after the srk. you gotta hit it RIGHT after you hit hp for the srk and dash fast. practise a lot i guess. you'll get it soon. or for starters you can try simpler fadc combos like akuma's hp srk fadc into shakunetsu fireball.

Posted by Blue on February 4, 2009 at 9:13 a.m. #33

the way i've landed the Ultra is ... air mp (hits twice in the air) while your opponent is about to land do your Ultra and it should hit him.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 4, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. #34

There are a couple of ways to land the ultra:

1 Fierce Shoryuken> FADC> Ultra
2 Jumping Strong for 2 hits in the air> Ultra
( Similar to juggle with the super in super turbo/hd remix )
3 Hit a jumping opponent with a Jap Shoryuken> Ultra
( hit at the peak of their jump)
4 Juggle with ultra right after a ex hadouken in the corner
( has to been done fast to work )
5 Juggle with ultra right after landing a ex hurricane in the corner.
( similar to juggle with super after ex hurricane in 3rd Strike )
6 combo into ex hadouken> fadc> ultra
( saw this in a japanese match video last night, looked good and did good damage. But use 3 stocks of super meter)

These are the ways I read and have seen done to land a ultra. So if you can't FADC the Shoryuken yet, you do have other options.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 4, 2009 at 10:35 a.m. #35

I almost forgot that if you trade with a Jab Shoryuken you can ultra as well. Works if the opponent is jumping.

Posted by lol on February 4, 2009 at 11:18 a.m. #36

it's not metsu hadouken it's Retsu hadouken.

Posted by Shirin Rivalz on February 6, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. #37

"it's not metsu hadouken it's Retsu hadouken"

Are you sure about this?

Posted by Colton on February 7, 2009 at 9:34 a.m. #38

Ryu is a beast i have a good feeling in the console version he will still be top tier he is going to be my main

Posted by dsrget on February 8, 2009 at 4:54 a.m. #39

i find it hard dashing with the arcade stick,
so im having trouble with the focus cancel.

Posted by Cakeman on February 11, 2009 at 5:31 a.m. #40

"it's not metsu hadouken it's Retsu hadouken"
It's obvious in every video that he says Metsu - "METS!"

Posted by asreadd on February 11, 2009 at 8:49 a.m. #41

nice gzuide thanks!!
But i cant get ryus ultra/super to work, ???

Posted by StanPhilo on February 16, 2009 at 2:14 p.m. #42

aahh!!! My Favorite Super isn't in this game!!!

I want my Shin Sho Ryu Ken back!

Posted by Wave on February 16, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. #43

How do I do Ryu's air crossover move?

Posted by berwyn on February 16, 2009 at 4:56 p.m. #44

that would probably be his air medium kick, i think. you just have to make sure that you jump in at the right angle. practise and you should get it.

Posted by Bas on February 17, 2009 at 1:47 a.m. #45

How the hell do you do focus attack cancel? Like in the trial challenge level 3(i think) it says hard kick and then EX focus attack but i can't seem to pull it off?

Posted by ywat on February 17, 2009 at 6:37 a.m. #46

MP+MK Hold then Double Forward or Double Back to cancel the focus

Posted by KButz on February 17, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. #47

Does he... not have the fake hadouken?

Posted by nothingxs on February 18, 2009 at 12:12 a.m. #48

to StanPhilo:

Gouken's ultra combo is the shinshoryu.

Posted by beemerboy85 on February 18, 2009 at 6 a.m. #49

I can't get this move done in the third level of the challenge mode. Heavy punch to hadouken? how do i do it?

Posted by SF4inaWeek:( on February 18, 2009 at 6:13 a.m. #50

Try this beemerboy85:

D + HP (HOLD HP) , DF, F, (RELEASE HP)

i just find that way (negative edge, check out some SF3 third strike lessons in this site, they help in sf4) easier.

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if you want to do it the cancel way though:

HP, D, DF, F + P (any? on a normal control i find MP better)

you just have to do it very very quciky

Posted by beemerboy85 on February 18, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. #51

hey SF4inaweek: i tried that and it didn't work. i dunno what kinda of move this is. i'm not really familiar with the alpha controls and all that stuff. it's for ken and ryu. on the screen is shows arrow HP then arrow D,F Punch(hadouken) i've spent 2 hours trying this and i guess i just suck. lol.

Posted by beemerboy85 on February 18, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. #52

SF4

Posted by Ryu on February 18, 2009 at 3:09 p.m. #53

Ryu's 3rd trial hard move is fuc king impossible. Capcom are all CO** suckers those mother fuc** ing co ** sucking FAGG OOTTS

I fuc*ing hate them... damn those a** holes... DIE CAPCOM DIE... I HATE YOU I FUC*ING HATE YOU DIE DIE DIE DIE A** HOLE MOTHER FU* KING MOM FUC *ERS

Posted by SF4inaWeek:( on February 18, 2009 at 3:53 p.m. #54

maybe you guys need to make sure the input screen is up there? or go to the training room and practice and turn on the input screen to see what your doing.

It depends how they want you to do the move, negative edge hadouken might not work, but the definitely the the cancel should, you seriously have to be fast, it's way easier to do it on a joystick

BTW i haven't got SF4, i have to wait a week, but i am pretty damn 100% sure thats what you have to do, just i need to emphasis QUICKLY input!

Posted by One more thing on February 18, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. #55

-the HP has to connect you target

- If you doing the cancel way, make sure your not pressing any direction while pressing HP

Posted by haha you noob on February 19, 2009 at 4:23 a.m. #56

Ryu's 3rd trial hard move is fuc king impossible. Capcom are all CO** suckers those mother fuc** ing co ** sucking FAGG OOTTS

I fuc*ing hate them... damn those a** holes... DIE CAPCOM DIE... I HATE YOU I FUC*ING HATE YOU DIE DIE DIE DIE A** HOLE MOTHER FU* KING MOM FUC *ERS

hahahha dumb noob ^^

i practiced alot thanks to that trials.
if you think its impossible watch these two gods
Momochi (GO) vs Daigo (RY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gqyfn...

Posted by zAya on February 19, 2009 at 10:44 a.m. #57

i cant pull of the shinsu hadouken (cant spell it) becuase my game says its three punches wich is difficult cuz i got lil hands lol

Posted by rajman on February 19, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. #58

jesus christ that daigo and momochi play like a bunch of noobs.

my god. if you want to see some real street fighter 4 action...me beating akuma on the hardest difficulty AND beating the crap out of some people online....gimme a shout out on here and ill show you some real combo street fighter 4 vids.

scrubs/noobs...beware.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 19, 2009 at 1:08 p.m. #59

@rajman

Um you calling Daigo out of all people a noob?

I need to play you then.
XBL BHeaggans
PSN BHeaggans1

I own the game on both, add me to your friend list so we can get some matches in. I am always looking to play when I am off from work.

Posted by ryuuuu on February 19, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. #60

how do you get gouken? gotten all character except gouken and seth. what next? 2 perfects and 2 ultras?

Posted by ryuuuu on February 19, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. #61

how do you get gouken? gotten all character except gouken and seth. what next? 2 perfects and 2 ultras?

Posted by rajman/kapows on February 19, 2009 at 8:09 p.m. #62

@ BHeaggans

before you do...i think i ought to show you my skills on video? wanna watch?

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 7:22 a.m. #63

how do you link ryu's jumping hp to hk and then the shinku haduken

Posted by BHeaggans on February 20, 2009 at 8:35 a.m. #64

@rajman

Sure whats the link. If you are good then it will help me get better. But you have to land the combos first..lol Its more to this game then combos. But I still wanna play because it can help me to get better faster.

@who cares

Its not a link. Just jump in with hp, then hk ( the close verison which is a ax kick.), the cancel into the shinkuu hadouken. You have to cancel the first hit of the hk.

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 9:11 a.m. #65

you are talking about ryu's 3rd combo of the level 4 trial right?

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 9:13 a.m. #66

because it doesnt call for a cancel

Posted by BHeaggans on February 20, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. #67

Yeah, I am at work so I am not at home playing right now. But if my memory serves me correct its just like I said. But correct me if I am wrong.

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. #68

can I send you a friend request so you can help me out with some stuff tonight maybe

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 9:40 a.m. #69

i dont understand how anyone has time to input an ultra after a cancel sins you have to dash in between the force cancel and the ultra

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at noon #70

I need help with this too. Do you have to cancel the axe kick, dash back, and THEN do a super? It doesn't seem like my super motions register after the dash back

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. #71

I see whats happening...when I cancel, I am doing it out of a focus attack which is taking up my special meter. Is there another way to cancel I don't know about?

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. #72

I just figured out that you can cancel into the Shinkuu Hadoken without dashing, if you do it at exactly the right moment during the axe kick. Far as I can tell, this is nearly impossible to do following a jumping punch, but I managed to do it twice now out of a standstill axe kick (twice in maybe 30 attempts.) I don't understand how normal humans are supposed to beat this.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 20, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. #73

@who cares

Sure thats fine. I have it on both systems so here is my gamertags:

XBL BHeaggans
PSN Bheaggans1

I won't be on until later because I work 2 jobs and don't get off until 10 pm eastern time. ( I live in Baltimore, MD )
Plus I also have my wife but she won't mind.

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at 12:51 p.m. #74

@BHeaggans

Cool if I friend you too? Im on XBL, gamertag is the same as my name here

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at 12:57 p.m. #75

I did it!! I did it!! WOOOOOOO

Basically yeah BHeaggans was right. You need ot do the jumping Hard Punch (I did it straight vertical instead of jumping in,) then IMMEDIATELY hit Hard Kick and basically be doing the motion for a Shinkuu Hadoken as you're letting go of the kick trigger.

It seemed kind of like I only had to do one Quarter-Circle-Forward though, but it may have registered as 2 cause I was shaking with angry determination and ferocity.

Posted by who cars on February 20, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #76

i guess ill just keep practicing

Posted by rich on February 20, 2009 at 6:34 p.m. #77

how do to focus atack to solar plexus strike in chalk 2 hard

Posted by Organic on February 21, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. #78

I have huge problems doing the freaking 4th combo in Ryu's 4th trial!

Jeez it's freakin impossible. Any tips?

Posted by Cryuap on February 21, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. #79

No, I have tried it a hundred fuc*in times. It won't give it to me even though I do it properly.

Posted by Organic on February 21, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. #80

I can't even hit with the shoryuken in time since the HP knocks Dan back and I don't have enough time to dash and then do a shoryuken. Freakin hell! Btw does it save or do you have to redo all combos in 4th trial if you quit?

Posted by tyson on February 21, 2009 at 3:36 p.m. #81

it wont be saved..
guess u just need to keep doing it like i am atm =)

Posted by tyson on February 21, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #82

am kind of in need for some help my self, atm am playing arcade mode, and on the hardest dif. ryu vs seth, and i just cant get him down.. i normaly play a very very aggrasive ryu but seth just got to much defensive powers it seem.. anyone got a strategi vs him?

Posted by c 2 on February 21, 2009 at 9:53 p.m. #83

"The Hard Kick version will go through some projectiles, which can be a nasty surprise for the other fighter"
This is true but all versions of this special can go through projectiles, but with lp and mp versions it won't travel great distances to reach the other player. I remember dodging metsu in training with Lp hurrican but i was in throwing distance of him. maybe you can change so people reading the guide won't get confused?

Posted by shi on February 22, 2009 at 2:44 a.m. #84

Can anyone tell me why like 90% of the time in a fight I end up doing EX Shoryuken instead of my metsu hadoken. super annoying and always screws me over. I go into training and try different things but usually it just seems random sometimes i can do it whenever i want other times ryu just keeps doing the stupid shoryuken no matter what i seem to do.

Posted by saer on February 22, 2009 at 1:27 p.m. #85

on ryu's third trial, the last one- Crouch Heavy Punch to Shoryuken, I crouch punch and then go right and roll it back up, but it always does Shinku, any tips?

Posted by TornadoTK on February 22, 2009 at 9:13 p.m. #86

@ shi
You gotta finish the motion. Stopping the QCF at DF turns your attempt at a QCF into an F,D,DF. Throw in the multiple P's, and viola, an EX Shoryu.

Make sure you complete the QCF.

Posted by Incerto on February 22, 2009 at 9:16 p.m. #87

SHI i had the same problem as you, you are pressing the three punches too quicly, do the 2x QCF, wait a little then press the three punches

Posted by Wubinator on February 23, 2009 at 12:37 a.m. #88

With the • Metsu Hadoken (Ultra Fireball) • the three punches. Does that mean LP+MP+HP or 3 quick punches after another?

Posted by Raius1 on February 23, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. #89

Wubinator-

It's the three punch buttons all together. Every character's Ultra is done with three attack buttons at once.

Posted by Raius1 on February 23, 2009 at 8:31 a.m. #90

Pardone me, not Akuma.

Posted by Master on February 23, 2009 at 3:49 p.m. #91

here's a few combos that uses the ultra/super together that i'd like to share with everyone.

Combo A

2/3 saving atk, dash forward, dash punch, hard punch Shoryuken, cancel into Shinkuu Hadoken

if ur up for it after the above Shinkuu Hadoken ur opponent will be in mid air if ur timing is good u can follow it with ultra hadoken

this combo is really hard to pull off as ur pulling both super and ultra together but not impossible, however this combo is much easier when ur opponent is in the corner as they will bounce back off the side will allowing ur ultra to follow in easier

Combo B

not a super/ultra combo but just wanted to show what else this combo can pull off

similar to the combo in the guide above

• (Opponent in corner) Level 2/3 Saving Attack, Dash Forward, Towards + Hard Punch, Crouching Light Punch, Crouching Hard Punch, EX-Hurricane Kick, juggle with EX-Fireball and with another EX-Hurricane Kick •

but instead of juggling with EX fireball juggle with ultra it will link

if the above is too hrad to pull off try just simply while opponent in corner, EX-Hurricane Kick then juggle with ultra practice this first before combining with the combo

Posted by ay on February 24, 2009 at 1:11 a.m. #92

im having a very hard time connecting F+hard punch into crouching light, medium and hard punch..

also how do i connect crouching medium punch into crouching hard punch?

i am having difficulty with this.. anyone can help?

Posted by ONEofFIVEsTrIkE on February 24, 2009 at 1:26 a.m. #93

People of the SF4 nation... I was having problems following the Focus Cancel with another move but after reading through all your comments and the tutorial heading the page, I found myself punching the air in celebration.

Last night I was able to finish Ryu's HARD #3, #4 (after the nightmare of #3, #4 was child's play) and #5.

Focus Attack Dash Cancel saved my relationship with my PS3. Could you believe!? all this time I was trying to execute an ultra after the Focus Attack finished its animation. DOH! I must say I found it easier to use the D-Pad to input the FA Dash Cancel as my speed and precision with the analog stick on the Forward Forward motion was lacking.

I'm now on Ken's HARD #4. Thank you SF community. >:oD

Posted by yflow on February 24, 2009 at 10 a.m. #94

I think that you should add another combo to the list. Fierce shoryu, focus attack dash cancel, ultra is a very useful one. I would almost consider it to be a bread and butter way to land the ultra. It's the one I rely on the most, outside of just giving them the focus attack into ultra.

Posted by yflow on February 24, 2009 at 10:02 a.m. #95

ay:
Don't sweat it, man. You just have to get the timing down. This game provides VERY small frame windows for links, so you have to be very specific. I'm not even sure if things like that are entirely practical.

Posted by Christobelle on February 24, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. #96

What does "Level 2/3 Saving Attack" mean? Anyone know?

Thanks for the help!

Posted by someone on February 25, 2009 at 8:35 a.m. #97

I think u meant Focus Attack.

Level 1 focus attack = pressing mp+mk and release after pressing

Level 2 focus attack = pressing mp+mk and hold for around 1.5 sec

Level 3 focus attack = pressing mp+mk and hold all the way (around 3 sec )and it will auto execute

Posted by ay on February 26, 2009 at 1 a.m. #98

thanks yflow!

Posted by kill joy on February 26, 2009 at 12:44 p.m. #99

how do u cancel a move when in a combo

Posted by JJ86 on February 26, 2009 at 2:11 p.m. #100

I am starting to think that SRK xx FADC into Ultrra might be over rated. Finding it hard to find a place to use it when there are other ways to set up ultra with no need for 2 ex meters.

Posted by yflow on February 27, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. #101

Here's another combo for you:

SRK xx Super, juggle with Ultra.

This combo HURTS.
You can put whatever you want before it (i.e. jump-in Fierce to standing fierce, or crouching forward, or whatever, just so long as you land the SRK).

Posted by yflow on February 27, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. #102

kill joy:

You have to kind of interrupt the move you're doing with the next move. You have to be very quick for it.

Posted by KK on February 27, 2009 at 2:11 p.m. #103

Crouching Light Punch 3x, Crouching Medium Kick, Cancel into Fireball

How do i perform cancel into fireball???
Can someone please help me out?
thx

Posted by Raius1 on February 27, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. #104

You can link a Hard Punch or Kick into Ultra. Jump in with a hard kick, input looking like d, df, f + HK. Then immediatly follow it with d, df, f + PPP. If you do it right, easy nine hit combo. Much easier than the shoryu FADC ultra (although that is awesome.)

Posted by someone on February 27, 2009 at 7:56 p.m. #105

@ KK

Canacel into Fireball means that, after u press the crouching medium kick, u can execute ur fireball. You dont have the wait for the crouching medium kick animation to finish.

But sometimes i would prefer to use crouching medium punch than crouching medium kick. Cuz the animation time for c.mp is faster than c.mk, and the timing of execution is much more *freely* compare to c.mk

Posted by FalconTwelve on February 27, 2009 at 10:36 p.m. #106

This guide left out an important detail about Ryu's super move.

You can get a guaranteed hit with your super move immediately after a close-range special move. For example, you can jump in with a HK, hit HP and then 2-1 that into a fierce shoryuken, and as the shoryuken starts, perform the super move motion quickly and rapidly. You can also chain it from crouching low kick to 2-1 hadouken to super hadouken, and these moves link in a combo.

So basically, his super can add a huge chunk of damage to virtually all of Ryu's combos. Heck, it's even possible to throw a super hadouken while a normal hadouken of yours is on screen... just perform the super motion after Ryu has started normal hadouken motion, and time the input of the three punch button for whan Ryu says the "Do!" part of HaDo!uken. If you vary the speeds, you can get two fireballs that are spread a foot apart. Jump one and the other nails ya.

Posted by FalconTwelve on February 27, 2009 at 10:43 p.m. #107

Er sorry, I didn't mean to say "three punch buttons" in the last post. I was referring to the super which requires just one punch button. Still, if your revenge guage is < 50 percent, you could just as well hit all three if you wanted to.

Posted by someone2 on February 27, 2009 at 10:55 p.m. #108

@ someone
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Posted by nick nack patty wack on March 2, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. #109

Ryu is the best one on the game and his ultra and super moves looks cool.

Posted by playboy on March 2, 2009 at 11:48 a.m. #110

nick nack patty wack give a dog a bone for rock will ray the lobster bullshark farms go meat yeah but butty and giggy stank

Posted by Captain Hentai on March 3, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. #111

Hey guys, I was messing about in training mode and found an alternative input method for the Shoryuken, FADC, Ultra. The key difference here is removing the forward forward input and simply using a really fast double QCF motion to dash.

1) Do a shoryuken
2) hold MP and MK, then do the double QCF motion REAL FAST. If you do it quick enough, he will cancel the focus into a forward dash
3) release MP and MK, the press PPP

Practise the traditional method as shown in the main article and also practise using this method and find out which way works better for you!

Posted by BobDole on March 4, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. #112

Why do people consider Ryu a better choice than Ken? It seems to me that Ken's Shoryuken is much better, whether you are using HP for to cover more area, or MP to do more damage and get more priority against air attacks.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ryu, but I can't think of any reasons to pick him over Ken.

Posted by Bubbles on March 4, 2009 at 2:49 p.m. #113

Falcon, the reason the guide doesn't mention canceling specials into the super fireball is because if you hit with an srk for example, it is much better to use your meter to FADC into an ultra, which does much more damage.

Posted by fijilights on March 4, 2009 at 9:43 p.m. #114

For this game in particular, this is probably the most useful site I have seen so far. I really appreciate your comments you guys. I would like to ask for some help.

I am okay with most of the moves and I enjoy using Ryu but for the life of me I can't seem to execute his ultra unless by chance.

Simply put, I cannot execute hadouken twice.

Incidentally the directional layout, that is hadouken twice is the layout for some other fighter's ultra so my ultras and supers are wasted. Are there any tips for mastering this ultra. I have been practising for over four days. I'd really appreciate whatever advice you have. U can respond on this board or my email is emmyobinna@yahoo.com and have the subject as street fighter so I don't mistake you for a spammer.
Hope I am not being a bother and thanks again for such a helpful comments.

Posted by Kenny1213 on March 5, 2009 at 11:21 p.m. #115

jump RH -> solar plexus strike -> F.shoryuken -> Ultra

ended up pulling 520 dmg, while I can only get his shoryuken -> FADC -> ultra to do 450ish.

Why is the super so disregarded?

Posted by Kenny1213 on March 5, 2009 at 11:45 p.m. #116

jump RH -> solar plexus strike -> F.shoryuken -> SUPER***
sorry, you can also juggle with the ultra after the super, though.

Posted by dayday on March 6, 2009 at 2:21 a.m. #117

just bought sfIV, looks siik, should be a second tier in jumping to get bullsh!t juggles/combos off. like in marvel vs capcom on dreamcast..pwnage

Posted by The Psycho Spanish Ninja, Jink on March 7, 2009 at 12:33 a.m. #118

Does Ryu have Kara Throw?

Posted by rma on March 7, 2009 at 4:29 a.m. #119

Ryu's back in top tier! :D
I'm surprised most people here are having trouble with his jump in hp->hk cancel to super...i got that really quickly.
The Trial i couldnt get was his Hard mode 3rd trial (i think), where you have to fadc->hk->crouch hp->srk->super (if memory serves correctly), I couldn't do it due to the massive throbbing pain in my thumb xD, i need a fightpad. Oh just as a side question:I'm predominantly a console player (since i'm too cheap for arcades) but I am pretty fine with using an arcade stick so just wondering, as far as long hour gaming sessions go which one would be better? Arcade stick or fightpad? I'm thinking stick but can I get confirmation?

Posted by ryu fan on March 7, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. #120

ok heres a combo he has 2 be in a corner ok EX hurricane kick into his ultra pretty simple but u can also add a focus attack into into it mainly takes about half of ur health away

Posted by Boris on March 8, 2009 at 10:42 a.m. #121

Ryu is O.K. , but I stopped playing as him as soon as I unlocked Akuma. Ryu is 80% of the time played by newbs and their movement is predictable. There are very few good ryu players, but those who are very good are nearly unbeatable.

Posted by Trill on March 9, 2009 at 1:03 a.m. #122

On Ryu's third hard trial challenge you have to ex focus cancel a shoryuken into his ultra. Is there any way to abbreviate the ultra motion after you cancel? I can't get it out fast enough and I'm not sure if I should dash ex cancel or try and frantically input the ultra command as soon as he ex cancels. When can you can start inputting the ultra, is it during or after the ex focus cancel? If anyone knows a good link about this or can give me some pointers I would appreciate it.

Posted by Mike Hunt on March 9, 2009 at 6:16 p.m. #123

I find myself using Ryu over Ken in this game.

Unlike 3rd strike, Ken was the more appropriate character to use.

Ryu has gotten stronger through his VR training..LOL.

NIGGA

Posted by giggade on March 10, 2009 at 6:44 p.m. #124

ryu FTW

Posted by arsalon on March 10, 2009 at 7:48 p.m. #125

i love ryu but so much ppl think ken is better... why?

what is the difference between ken and ryu in game wise?

Posted by SurgeFist on March 10, 2009 at 8:58 p.m. #126

We need Ryu's Trial info help here ASAP!

Posted by SurgeFist on March 11, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #127

THANKYOU! for putting Ryu's Trial info!

Posted by dolemite3000 on March 12, 2009 at 2:21 p.m. #128

I like Ryu.He has crazy juggles,but his ultra moves are not the strongest

Posted by Dolomite2 on March 12, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. #129

Many consider Ryu's ultra to be the best in the game, and I agree. The reason it doesn't do as much damage as say, Ken's ultra, is because it is 10x easier to land.

In the hands of a casual player, Ryu's Ultra will absolutely suck. You shouldn't be using it just whenever, you need to use it when the opponent CANNOT avoid it, and there are SO many opportunities to do this. I play as Ryu, and I land my ultra so much more than most of my opponents. If Ryu's ultra did as much damage as some of the higher-damage ultra moves, it would be hideously imbalanced.

Focus attack, LP shoryuken, ANY Shoryuken you trade hits with, opponents as they are jumping (unless they have a trajectory-changing move) or, my favorite one, wait till a newbie Ryu fires his at you and just jump over it and fire yours.

Posted by Retro3 on March 12, 2009 at 7:25 p.m. #130

You can also combo into Ryu's ultra from a HK jump kick, just so long as your kick hits them close and below the neck.

Posted by The 7th Number on March 14, 2009 at 11:06 p.m. #131

Im trying to do Ryu's hard trial level 5. I can do it all except the ultra at the end, and when i do the ultra, its always when dan hits the ground, and then its way too late. I guess im not hitting the ultra fast enough right after hitting the EX MP+MK Cancel. Its just annoying because there is still time to do the ultra while dan is falling, but Ryu wont do it, till dan hits the ground. This one is very tough.

Posted by SSJ3X on March 15, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. #132

One thing I learned about that Trial is that you get use to FADC out of his shoryuken and dashing forward to finish with an ultra. I'd say practice doing that in the corner but dashing backwards. Eventually after doing it a lot of times, you'll be able to chain it so you can complete the trial.

Man... I really love his fireball traps, they seem much better than in the Super Turbo days.

Posted by void on March 18, 2009 at 2:45 a.m. #133

could someone please explain the point of mixing between crouching light and kick punches in combos. I dont understand why people keep mixing betweenthe two during combos instead of using one or the other. Is it just for style or something?

Posted by Lemon Boy on March 18, 2009 at 5:44 a.m. #134

Hey, could someone please explain the 'cancel' feature and how to execute it? thanks

Posted by Korobar on March 18, 2009 at 2:03 p.m. #135

For my favorite Combo of him the opponent has to stay in a corner. Jump HK , Crouch MK/LK , EX Hurricane Kick , Ultra. 15 Hit Combo . It deals about 55% to 60% damage.

Could someone tell me why, when you do Shoryuken -> Super -> Ultra it is only a 10 hit combo? Shouldn't it be a 16 hit combo?

Posted by dumb a$$ on March 18, 2009 at 7:50 p.m. #136

cannot land solar plexus strike after focus attack. any suggestions?

Posted by dumb a$$ on March 18, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. #137

dash u dummy

Posted by void on March 18, 2009 at 11:49 p.m. #138

um..what the hell am I supposed to do against a zangief cross up attack.

Posted by Chargi on March 19, 2009 at 12:33 a.m. #139

I have to correct a combo :X

• Crouching Light Kick, Crouching Light Punch, Crouching Medium Punch, Cancel into Hurricane Kick •

doesn't work well. Even if your cLK, cLP hits, cMP won't stand him up -> your HK doesn't hit your crouching opponent.

cLK, cLP, cHP xx HK Tatsu

Beware: doesn't work after Crossup, because your cHP won't hit, so try that one: cLK, cLK, HP Shoryu (shoryu must be a link!) - can be comboed with FADC into Ultra.

Posted by Yo on March 20, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. #140

Do a late shoryu on wake up eliminates most cross up games. If any blanka tries an ultra while you're waking up, an Ex'ed shoryu will knock him out of it. You can also focus the cancel and dash away, causing a whiffed throw for the most part.

Posted by Lam on March 23, 2009 at 2 a.m. #141

Hey I'm a newbie bout SF4, and having problem to execute super and ultra moves..

How do you actually do it? Is the time interval for the command input is really fast? Does using a standard controller is more disadvantage than using a joystick? I really need help, almost throw away my controller out of frustration lol.. Thanks

Posted by So_low on March 23, 2009 at 5:20 a.m. #142

This is a bit off topic, but would anyone happen to know daigo's current BP and win %, or at least link me up to a place that has this data. thanks

Posted by zero on March 24, 2009 at 12:29 a.m. #143

Hi Lam,

practice more. i still remember first time i put my hands on console sf, it is really difficult to perform any special moves. during the first week, i did not manage to perform a single one. since i was quite good at arcade version, i thought capcom removed special moves due to console's performance issue. lol.
i do not feel any time interval. actually, in order to counter opponent's moves or perform some combos, you need to perform as quickly as possible.

Posted by Rookie on March 25, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. #144

OK bare with me I havent played street fighter since it was on super nintendo. I have the Super down pact but I cant quite get the ultra. I see what your supposed to do but I just can't get it. Any Tips or help from you pro's

Posted by Lam on March 25, 2009 at 11:51 p.m. #145

Finally getting the hang of the combos and special moves..
Thanks zero.

Posted by Big Fish on March 27, 2009 at 3:07 a.m. #146

Why do you sometimes fire a Super Fireball (Shinkuu Hadoken) when you make the move for the Ultra (Metsu Hadoken)?
For example (in training mode): when you are a 1 end of the screen and your opponent at the other end, and you fire an EX-Hadouken then make the move for the Ultra, you only fire the Super (not true if you are a half-screen away from you opponent).
There are examples in non-training mode and at close range, but I do not remember them right now.
Do you also experience this? Do you know why this is?

Posted by cBo on March 27, 2009 at 4:24 a.m. #147

Are spezial pad like this a real advantage?
https://www.gcshop.ch/gcshop/details....

Or is the stick version better?

Posted by Big Fish on March 27, 2009 at 5:13 a.m. #148

@cBo: check out the Mad Catz pad review on http://www.capcom-unity.com/redvirtue...
It looks pretty good (compared to the basic pad though).

Posted by Sagat on March 27, 2009 at 5:17 a.m. #149

watchin that video just made me drop my jaw with awe, i will never do this!! :(

Posted by moogle on March 29, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. #150

My hands are tired from doing the shoryken FADC ultra. I always get shoryuken FADC EX shoryuken and even when the Ultra does come out it always misses. I only managed to land it about 2-3 times and those were like really fast movements to the point I might concuss from playing too much. So any advice on how to go about doing the ULTRA after the dash? I tried the 2 QCF movement dash cancel...it's really hard to do....

Posted by Peacecraft on March 30, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. #151

Big Fish: It has nothing to do with distance. The thing is that, you can't combo the ultra after a hadouken. That would be cheap.

Posted by ryu player on March 31, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. #152

hey man your guide was helpful but some more ryu combos wud be extra nice

Posted by yodola on March 31, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. #153

ryus timing has to be almost pin-point accuracy, thus if you land the shoryuken ultra combo you must execute the ultra as he dashes to maintain full accuracy. still 5 top moves i use wit ryu

1. ex hurricane->metsu (only in a corner)
2.shoryuken->metsu
3.shoryuken->shinku->metsu
4.low mk->ex hadu->metsu
hardest for me 5.low mk->hadu-> fadc-> exhadu-> metsu
try those and you will become a decent ryu player ^_^

Posted by Zen on March 31, 2009 at 2:02 p.m. #154

Here's a situational Ryu combo:

Jumping Hard Kick, Crouching Hard Punch, cancel into Hard Punch Shoryuken, cancel into Shinkuu Hadouken, Metsu Hadouken

Yes, if timed right, you can juggle a Shinkuu into a Metsu. Does about 70% damage with full ultra.

Posted by DR Jam on March 31, 2009 at 6:59 p.m. #155

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Help<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ryu Hard Trial 3

I can't seam to cancel the Hp into the Shoryuken. It always comes out as hadouken.

Any tips for input?

Posted by Big Fish on April 1, 2009 at 2:09 a.m. #156

@Peacecraft: Thank you for your explanations. I am only starting to understand how the game works, and your comment helps me to understand why, for example, you can link only the Shinkuu, and not the Metsu, after Towards + Hard Punch.

However, I maintain that you can link (or cancel into? I cannot say) a Metsu after an EX-Hadoken when you are 2/3 screen from your opponent, and that the Metsu turns into a Shinkuu when you are a full screen away from her (in training mode with unlimited super otherwise this is not possible) - please let me know what you think.

Thanks ! This forum is really helpful to get a grasp of the game mechanics for a newbye like me (hadn't played a SF game since SFII)

Posted by Peacecraft on April 1, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. #157

Big Fish: First of all, I'm just a newbie like you, so don't rely on me too much ;)
And I can only repeat myself. There are a few distance dependant moves (like one of Zangief's throw) in the game, but Ryu doesn't have any of them. The only thing that matters is the input, and it's easy to do a super by mistake in the heat of battle.

Posted by Peacecraft on April 1, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #158

I misunderstood your comment, but the point is that neither the super, nor the ultra are distance dependant moves.

Posted by sf4 on April 1, 2009 at 2:43 p.m. #159

Does anyone wants to challenge me in sf4 in xbox live add me as a friend im a pretty good ryu user i do know everything about him also i know the combos and FADC from ryu. I will be playing online today if u get the chance to play me. my gamertag is mr jiga321

Posted by Don on April 1, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. #160

Ryu's about 5 times as nasty to fight as ever.

Posted by Big Fish on April 2, 2009 at 2:39 a.m. #161

@Peacecraft (#158): so how do you explain the following (easy-to-reproduce, training mode with infinite jauges only):
-Perfom a Metsu after an EX-Hadoken when you are 2/3 screen from your opponent >> result is fine = Metsu
-Perform the same when you are a full screen away >> result = Shinkuu

I am looking at the input commands displayed on the screen and this shows the exact same sequence in both cases...

(I am insisting only because this could give me a better understanding of how the game works, not because of this specific example)

Posted by Wee Soldier on April 2, 2009 at 6:03 p.m. #162

@Big Fish when your ex hadoken connects ryu instantly recovers this is why its possible to combo the ex hadouken into the metsu in a corner what i imagine your doing is using the same speed of input and instead of doing a metsu because you have recoverd you are instead canceling the ex hadouken animation and performing the super , just a note why you are practicing this deludes me as at that range it will NEVER combo, incase your not always use training mode set to auto block this way anything that isnt a combo after the first hit wont connect

Posted by some guy on April 4, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. #163

i was playing with my friend using ryu and keep getting my ass beat by bison ... what should i do ?

Posted by B14ckPh03nix145 on April 6, 2009 at 6:20 p.m. #164

i kept getting beat by a cheap rufus player almost all my attacks dont work what should i do.

Posted by saikotik on April 7, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. #165

B14ckPh03nix145

as a ryu player and playing against ryu noobs, i see alot of people abusing the hadouken. this rufus player is expecting that since the ryu players that do nothing but throw projectiles have their technique set. this rufus player has probably found a way to counter those projectiles assuming you are throwing them.

rufus is unique, you have to use your ground technique to destroy him. F+MP and F+HP work pretty good in my case. D+HP - SHORYUKEN is good too. limit your projectiles cause it leaves you wide open.

Posted by Karyu on April 7, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. #166

"remember the story line is between 2 and 3
so the title of the game should be street fighter 2 1/2

ryu didn't learn his shin shyruken yet, his master knows it"

...but wasn't he able to use it in Alpha3? story line makes no sense"

Ryu's shoryuken super in Alpha 3 was NOT shin shoryuken, I believe its name was Mettsu Shoryuken. Whever I got the name right or not its a different move. Ryu would hit with a dashing elbow and then go into a shoryuken.

When Ryu performs a shin shoryuken he begins by doing a gut punch as if he is performing a normal shoryuken but then switches hands to perform the shin shoryuken.

Hope that made sense =)

Posted by saikotik on April 9, 2009 at 7:49 a.m. #167

some guy

shoryuken and hadou. Hadou VS PSYCHO CRUSHER, Shoryuken VS DEVIL'S REVERSE. F+MP XX SHORYUKEN VS. CLOSE TELEPORT.

If you miss a shoryuken, you will eat bison's ultra.

Posted by bxsfer on April 15, 2009 at 1:48 p.m. #168

I'm pretty new to Street Fighter and don't know what a saving attack is, can somebody explain it?

Posted by bxsfer on April 15, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #169

Never mind, reading through it, I realize that's the focus attack.

Posted by jon on April 16, 2009 at 5:57 a.m. #170

how the f`ck do u perform the massive hadouken on the pause menu the way it shows u is to small to read does any1 no thanks

Posted by saikotik on April 16, 2009 at 7:40 a.m. #171

@ jon

motion a regular hadouken twice and press all three punches

Posted by renanns on April 16, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #172

this combo wiv light shoryouken and ultra or super, only gets if u do the light shoryouken in the opponent who atacks ur in the air

Posted by saikotik on April 17, 2009 at 3:30 p.m. #173

I CANT BEAT GUILE, OF ALL PLAYERS, I CANT BEAT THIS GUY WORTH A CRAP. I DONT HAVE ISSUES WITH ANYONE ELSE, JUST GUILE! TIPS PLEASE!!!! NOT YOUR AVERAGE TURTLER GUILE, HE'S MORE ON THE OFFENSIVE AND SEEMS TO KNOW MY EVERYMOVE. I MIGHT AS WELL DISABLE THE SHORYUKEN, HE MAGICALLY BLOCKS EVERY SINGLE ONE. HADOUKENS ARE EXCHANGED WITH SONIC BOOMS, SOMETIMES EX SONIC BOOMS. WHILE IM FINISHING A HADOUKEN, I GET KNOCKED WITH A 5-HIT COMBO.

Posted by fine ill help on April 18, 2009 at 6:02 p.m. #174

ok, guile really isn't that big a deal when u take advantage of everything ryu does better. Let me guess, when ur close but not too close u'd trhow out some hadokens but he'd jump over one eventually while ur doing one and hit you. So he probably just has a good sense of timing and can anticipate a hadoken. What u shud do when ur close enough for a jump in is be weary of using hadokens and watch when he does sonic boom. when ur at a good distance u shud start throwing out hadokens as his projectile is a charge move, and he'll have a harder time matching yours. U'll eventually win any projectile war with him if ur at a good distance. When close it's usually a guessing game and is mostly about who has better timing. If ur fairly close, u shud throw out a hadoken now and then but not spam it. When he thinks ur about to throw one out he'll jump at you and thats when u shud punish him with a crouching hard punch or a heavy shory if ur quick enough. When you think he's about to throw out a sonic boom or ur quick enough to react to one, u jump at him and punish however u like. ust be careful as his flash kick will easily knock u out of teh air if u amke a wrong decision. And try not to shoryu on wake up alot or in battle for no reason unless hes recovering from a blocked special or anything,thats probably why he just blocks everyone. Also mix up ur game a little bit, if u do the same thing over and over again he'll notice the pattern and react accordingly..thats probably why he knows ur every move. Just don't be too predictable..mix up throws and attacks to keep him guessing. And remember, if he jumps in your crouching hard punch will make him pay. Also feel free to play some mind games and make him always wonder what u'll do next.

Posted by Shin Dan Hibiki on April 19, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. #175

Not bad of a character. but he is in my top three 1/ryu 2/ken 3/dan

Posted by saikotik on April 21, 2009 at 7:35 a.m. #176

ok it happened again only this time, he didn't block once, but it was jabs then throws. ex sonic booms when i throw a hadouken. i get FADC into his ultra. i added him as a friend cause he's such a great guile player. he was even telling me how to beat him and i couldn't do it. *sigh* i guess its back to basics!!! when im akuma i can stand a chance. but for some reason i cant get it with ryu! i mean !@#$ he guile has TWO MOVES! i have come to realize that i just suck! i have no problems with anyone else, just guile. and then he started using bison, had a perfect on me twice!!!! AHHHHHH

Posted by SFnoob on April 22, 2009 at 7:25 a.m. #177

Just a side note. The Trial video for Ryu is missing.

Posted by o RanSomE o on April 24, 2009 at 5:08 p.m. #178

just to start let me say i am aware there are good ryu players out although i think daigo throws a bit too many hadokens sometimes ryu is good in the right hands but seriously all you good ryu players need to hold a summit or some sort of meeting so all the good ryu players can have a chat with the cheese ones that make all of you look bad or cheesy as the case maybe

Posted by lance on April 25, 2009 at 11:35 p.m. #179

what happend to the trial video for ryu

Posted by Amiga4ever on April 26, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #180

@moogle
Do the ultra movement 3 times, ie D,DF,F x3. The closer you are to the edge of the screen, add a 4th motion.

Posted by SKI-MASK-SHOT-GUN on April 28, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. #181

" Level 2/3 Saving Attack, Dash Forward, Level 2 Saving Attack, Dash Forward, juggle with Shoryuken"

what does it mean by 'saving attacks' n level 2 savin attack, n 2/3

Posted by philli on April 29, 2009 at 3:20 p.m. #182

hi im a noob at this and hav only just started playing street fighter iv and im afraid to say that im having problems performing the most simplest of attacks, i can do a hadouken but whenever i try doing a Shinkuu Hadoken i end up doing a Shoryuken, i dont understand really since the shinkuu is basically down up down up and punch and while i have been able to succesfully do it in the past i find myself doing more Shoryuken's. the same goes for sagat since his Tiger Genocide is simialr and i end up doing a tiger uppercut instead more often and not, please could one of you give me any insight as to what i may be doing wrong? thanks

Posted by ljay103 on April 30, 2009 at 8:20 a.m. #183

@philli

try doing the motion 3 times fast, and hit all three punches. if you dont, you'll do an EX SHORYUKEN, or super! it doesn't require 3 times but in your case you want to be sure, and like i said you probably couldn't hit all three buttons.

Posted by phillil on May 2, 2009 at 5:17 a.m. #184

kk cheers

Posted by Chemokeule on May 3, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #185

Hello,
im looking for some Ryu players who would like to spar with me. Im a Sagat player. Please contact me, or leave your nick here. My nick is Chemokeule

see ya

Posted by Hellrazor on May 3, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. #186

@ Korobar, the reason why the Shoryuken > Super > Ultra only combos for 10 hits is that the Ultra juggle only hits for 3. I've gotten the timing perfect and it only hits for three and then passes thru. Guess that's the game's way of balancing his juggle abilities.

Posted by ExCelius on May 8, 2009 at 6:10 a.m. #187

Chemokeule, I'd love to play against your Sagat but are you on PSN or Live? I'm on Live, name's ExCelius there. Feel free to add me.

Posted by b r 1 x on May 11, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. #188

i want evil ryu, shin akuma and shin gouken -.-#

Posted by RYU on May 13, 2009 at 2:01 a.m. #189

B R X 1, i will thrash u n destruy u, Shoryuken!!!!

Posted by b r 1 x on May 13, 2009 at 7:36 a.m. #190

dreamer

Posted by BRX1'S DAD on May 14, 2009 at 2:46 a.m. #191

SHORYUKEN SON, TAKE MY ADVICE, DON'T GO UP AGAINST RYU, LIKE HE SAID HE WILL DESTROY YOU BOY! IF YOU RESPECT ME SON, YOU WILL NOT TRY HURT YOUR SELF.

Posted by b r 1 x on May 14, 2009 at 6:02 a.m. #192

it is not cool to write posts under two different nicks and claim to be two different persons
and with 11 years you cant be my dad, sry
and it's is not that hard to read 4 letters

Posted by anti-shoryuken on May 21, 2009 at 2:24 p.m. #193

ryu blows! all the hadou-spamming, linking to the ultra after an SRK, and crossups cant make him win. maybe just switch to an advanced character like dan, yes ryu is that bad!

Posted by SSJ3X on May 22, 2009 at 10:26 a.m. #194

I think Ryu has excellent potential when it comes to using him, though I'm starting to see that with him, you have to play aggressive and take some risks here and there. The only time I don't see an aggressive Ryu is if he's fighting Blanka, to which timing is key for almost everything that Blanka throws at him. The same goes for Dhalsim, whose defense is ridiculously hard to get through with Ryu. And while jump-ins are good, he seems better off as a ground based character usually setting up attacks or baits.

Posted by L on May 26, 2009 at 7:44 a.m. #195

Jumping hardkick, crouching hard punch, hard punch shoryuken, cancel into super.

Posted by patrick gabriel on May 27, 2009 at 8:05 p.m. #196

i think ryu is a honorable fighter,but his ultra and super is kind of a little damage

Posted by BuSta ChuCkz SF4 Champion on May 29, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #197

here are the real combos man Jump HK, crouch MK, Hadouken.
Jump HK, crouch MK, EX Hurricane Kick.
"When Opponent is trapped in the far corner of the stage"
Jump HK, Stand Heavy Punch, EX Hurricane Kick,
EX Shoryuken, EX Cancel,Metsu Hadouken. "Note: this is the last Challenge for Ryu in Challenge mode."
"This is one cheap move if u know how to do it well."
When opponent is near Light Hurricane kick then when ur near them grab straight away as they will be blocking.
TNX FOR READING AND THIS STUFF WILL HELP SO FUKN USE IT AND LEARN HOW TO LOLZ.

Posted by BuSta ChuCkz SF4 Champion on May 29, 2009 at 8:29 p.m. #198

if u want anymore tipz I got more just ask lolz

Posted by Ryu on May 31, 2009 at 9:16 a.m. #199

I'D LIKE SOME PANCAKES!!!!!

Posted by Ryu on May 31, 2009 at 5:16 p.m. #200

Hadouken!

Posted by Shin Ryu on June 1, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. #201

AssassinMist86 on Xbox Live, Hit me up if you guys want good matches to tone up skillz. always lookin for a good match! ^_^

Posted by street jonesy on June 14, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. #202

there cool< but i want different tips then other sites

Posted by :( on June 15, 2009 at 2:18 p.m. #203

FADC is too hard for me to pull off, I can do it but Im too slow when dashing after the FA. And on top of that I have to do a move like metsu hadoken after. any tips on how to do it? maybe I need a stick...

Posted by FlamingFist on June 16, 2009 at 7:10 p.m. #204

What happened to Ryu's challenge videos?

Posted by grapez on June 17, 2009 at 12:08 a.m. #205

to :(

do it in steps

first do 10 shoryukens
then do 10 shoryukens into the cancel.
Then do 10 shoryukens into cancel into dash forward
then do 10 shoryukens into cancel into dash forward into metsu

after you get that down, just keep trying to do it in games and when you get used to it, try to reach quick enough so that when the shoryuken is blocked, instead of doing the metsu after, throw.

Posted by :) on June 17, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. #206

ok ^^ thx for the tip grape

Posted by :D on June 19, 2009 at 12:21 p.m. #207

finally learned how to do it, lol thxa lot grape (again).

Posted by NvS xCriSp on June 20, 2009 at 4:29 a.m. #208

Iam formerly BuSta ChuCkz Street Fighter 4 Champion.
im here to let out yet another combo of ryu's.
Jump HK, Crouch MK, Ex Hurricane Kick.
When opponent jumps towards you, Light Shoryuken then Ultra as fast as u can.
these two mofo combos save ur arse a lot of health and shhit so learn it if u haven't and use it.

Posted by NvS xCriSp on June 20, 2009 at 4:31 a.m. #209

Hmm i have a feeling the person who created this website has not yet studied the game enough if u ask me

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 20, 2009 at 5:47 p.m. #210

@ NvS xCriSp
those are basic stuff any decent Ryu should know...

regardless, simple and works! I suggest dont waste the bar for ex hurricane kick if ur not near corner unless u feel like u need to damage. Cause in corner u may connect ultra. On the light shoryus, i think u might wanna wait a few miliseconds before throwing out the metsu, cause sometimes i do it too fast and it whiffs lmao (ironic eh?) and especially in corner, do it too fast and ur not getting it in.

If you are able to cr.LP,cr.LK,Heavy Shoryu, then FADC into ultra ^^. Or any normal into heavy shoryu, fadc ultra.

Heres a tip! Try to charge up ur super bar for round 2(or whenever its charged). Ryu's super is exceptional at catching people's jumps! If u start zoning, ur opponent will be tempted to jump over your hados, if u got the reflexes, SHINKU HADOKEN! Dead on hit in mid air! Ofcourse, you got to time it, cause it may go too fast(flys under them), too slow(they land and block), timing is quite tricky, but practice and you'll got a great trick up Ryu's sleave...even though he doesnt have any, meh ^^

Lucy~

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 20, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. #211

and for those...learners.... Ryu's ultra and supers does more than enough damamge! Considering they are so dam easy to land!

Posted by woot# on June 21, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. #212

Doesnt say anything about Ryu being able to cancel a shoryuken into his super here. j.HK+cr.LP+cr.HP+SRK+Super He can even juggle with his ultra after that though it will only get 3 hits. But why isnt this listed or even mentioned?

Posted by Justice on June 21, 2009 at 10:54 p.m. #213

another good combo is:

Focus as there falling do a super than an ultra its a perfect combo

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 22, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. #214

@Woot#
any shoryu can instantly cancel into Ryu's super, hado into Super works as well.

@Justice
if u got a focus crumble on ur oppenent. Just ultra, dont bother super. Save it for something else. The damage on your ultra alone will be around the same(even more if ur revenge meter high) cause of damage scaling.

Lucy~ *sighs* still so much easier to win with Ryu compared to Chun...

Posted by stabicron on June 23, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. #215

They really need to take out at least some of ryu's links. He has way too many ways to link into super, ultra or ex fireball. Its retarded no one else has that many outside FDAC's

Posted by Don on June 24, 2009 at 9:57 p.m. #216

Go in a corner annnnd

Jumping HK
Crouching MK
EX Tatsumaki Senpukyaku
LP Shoryuken
EX Shoryuken.

Or, after the LP Shoryuken, you can Do Ryu's Super, then his Ultra. Either way you slice it, someone's bound to toss their controller down while everyone else laughs their asses off.

Posted by Woot# on June 25, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. #217

@Lucy
I know but I was wondering why its not mentioned here at te site.

Posted by 3D on June 25, 2009 at 9:49 p.m. #218

My bro is a state champion and his favorite combo is solar plexis strike,ex shoryuken,FADC,Metsu Hadoken. if you guys wanna good fight my GT for xbox live is TheNightmanPTR. just tell me you saw this post.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 26, 2009 at 2:58 a.m. #219

Gah, having a lil trouble doing BnB + heavy Shoryu FADC ultra on my new fightstick >.< might need to upgrade the parts to be more sensitive... still like the arcade machines better ^^

Ive also learned a few ways to use:
Slightly further from midrange, just hado zone and if u anticipate a jump over, FADC, then light shoryu and juggle ultra. And if they didnt jump and u FADCed, dont wry, it looks pro, so go ahead and pressure them lol

When using a BnB combo but too far away from shoryu connect range (to FADC ultra) it is possible to Ex Hado (fireball) and FADC forward and Ultra (so 3 bars of meter). The damage is not as great(i think?), cost 3 bars, and much more strict timing but it could be useful if u did a cr.MK poke and u think u are too far for the Shoryu to connect, this combo works. It can also be done anywhere on the screen, but ofcourse no point doing it in the corner cause fireball can go into ultra directly in corner.

Lucy ~ can win most arcade matches, but still have lots to learn ^^

Posted by Woot# on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. #220

Yeah the EX Hado to ultra does a bit less damage.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 26, 2009 at 2:07 p.m. #221

Yea, prob cause the fireball is 2 hits or something.

I need to learn the exact spot to do cross up hurricane kick, i can only do it sometimes. My friend who plays a much better Ryu than I can, can land it in some good pressuring situations. When i played him, we would force me into a low block with i think crLK,crLP,crLP then stop jump and cross me up with his hurricane kick (ofcourse he doesnt do this everytime). After a round or two, i could block a few, but its still a great tool to have. So im gonna try to learn the exact positioning in the air to get the cross up tatsu so i can get it at least 90% of time i need it next time i head to an arcade ^^

Posted by Warren warner on June 27, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. #222

wwarner10@yahoo.com

The combos good, they help alot.

thanks

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 27, 2009 at 8:35 p.m. #223

YAY NEW FIND!

I watched a daigo (Ryu) video earlier today, and in a round he tried to cross up hurricane kick (tastu) and shinku hado (super) but it only hit a few and whiffed most. As said above, i went to the arcade to practice my crossup tastu which i got pretty well down now. But i decided i will also try to do what daigo did with the super. I tried on the comps, first attemp whiffed, i shot it out too fast. But then when i started to time it, it landed full on for great damage from just a crossup tatsu! I also got it in 2-3 times against vs matches, which was quite satifying ^^

So heres how to do it: Cross up with a ariel heavy tatsu (gotta get the spot right) and when they are flying to the other side, use the heavy(fastest version) shinku hadoken and if timed properly, will hit all. Timing is a bit tricky, might need to practice a few times before u get it down. Chances are, u wont use this too much, but another good option to know to add damage to your crossup tatsu!

Lucy ~ yay! Please try these combos online at home, tell me how they work for you. Have fun ^^

Posted by dick on June 28, 2009 at 1:26 a.m. #224

that wont work scrotum.

Posted by jordan on June 28, 2009 at 12:28 p.m. #225

I cant get it to ultra move.. IT just doenst work

I do the regular special fire ball, but punch twice and it doenst work!
Can any1 help

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 28, 2009 at 10:45 p.m. #226

@dick
Maybe u just cant do it?

@Jordon
Well you know the motion. Try to do it slowly. Pull ur joystick/analog down and do 2 quarter circle towards nice and smoothly and then press all punch (light+medium+heavy punch)

Posted by Woot# on June 29, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. #227

crossup tatsu to super worked pretty good for me ^^ thx Lucy didnt know it was possible until I read ur post.

Posted by jordan on June 29, 2009 at 11:45 a.m. #228

yah i figured it out hjust afteri did it.. I was hitting it 3 times.. instead of all 3 at same time

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 29, 2009 at 2:20 p.m. #229

@Woot#
No prob. Good job ^^

@jordon
Good job to you too ^^

It seems like i went back to playing Ryu again instead of playing my Chun more >_> o well. Im just so much better with Ryu and those easy to do and land super and ultra lol

Btw, anyone thinking of buying the PC version of SF4 when it comes out? Cause since i dont have a console im kinda limited to that >.<

Posted by Woot# on June 29, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. #230

Yeah I think Im going to buy the PC version, though I think Im still going to be more on PSN, unless I get an arcade stick or something. I like playing Ryu or Rose.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 29, 2009 at 8:29 p.m. #231

Cool, maybe we can get a few matches together then. Do you know when its coming out? I know its soon, but not sure about exact date.

You should get a fight stick, one that works for both ur ps3 and pc. I have one for xbox and pc, it was cheap \^^/ like... $80, so even if i upgrade it for full Sanwa set, it'll still be like $130 which is pretty good.

Posted by Woot# on June 30, 2009 at 4:20 a.m. #232

No idea when its coming out, and yes a stick isnt really expensive but Im wondering if I would actually use it or not, never tried one before so I have no idea if I would like it, I like the regular ps3 controller so maybe I get something like that to pc.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 1, 2009 at 4:27 a.m. #233

Well i heard most people who are used to the controller dislike the stick when they first try it cause u have trouble doing the direction motions, or even knowing where the button is when u want to press it. But in my opinion, you should give it a shot man. After some practice you'll get the muscle memory in and your execution will be better than ever! I think especially cause street fighter has 6 buttons you gotta press, makes it that much more essential to have the buttons laid out together. But thats just my opinion, i grew up with arcade machines lmao ^^

2 times fail FADC ultra costed me 1 dollar! (2 games) or i had those games! I realised i panicked too much after the FADC and just went into a shoryu of some sort =/

Posted by Woot# on July 1, 2009 at 5:26 a.m. #234

I had problems learning to FADC too, now I just have some problems with EX hado to ultra midscreen but at least I get it right most of the time. I grew up on a farm xD no arcade machines out here lol.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 1, 2009 at 1:09 p.m. #235

I always find myself have more trouble doing the FADC ultra when im playing players who are much better than me lol.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 1, 2009 at 6:03 p.m. #236

I just ran my pc through the SF4 benchtool test and it seems everything will run smoothly as long as i keep model detail at mid, it looks slightly for plasticy. Its fine it i set it at high, but it lags during the opening speech of the character or during ultra cinematics.

If anyone else wants to try out the benchtool here it is:
http://www.destructoid.com/street-fig...

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 3, 2009 at 12:32 a.m. #237

ZOMG!!! Cammys!!! How the hell do you fight them? Lost to 2 decent-good cammys today, got really dam frustrated cause i just don't know what to do against them! i mean, they are not an existent character in the arcade version, so i dont have any experience with a Cammy that knows what he/she is doing. I'll probably figure out how to fight em after i get my own pc version, but before that; anyone got a tip or two?

Posted by Xos on July 3, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. #238

Which button should I press to continue after losing a fight? I am playing the PC version and tried all the keys on the keyboard but non works! I am really clueless regarding this

Posted by Woot# on July 3, 2009 at 11:58 a.m. #239

against cammy I usually just do hadoken/SRK as anti air. Her spinnuckle that goes through hadoken is so slow it rarely hits.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 3, 2009 at 3:49 p.m. #240

Ok thx Woot, i was trying that pretty much but my shoryus were just a tad too slow. The pc version is out? O_o

Posted by Xos on July 3, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. #241

Ya. Like 2/3 days. But I simply can't find the button which should be pressed to continue after losing a fight.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 3, 2009 at 7:34 p.m. #242

Oh, where are u at? Cause i dont think its out at my location, or at least i heard it wont be coming out yet. Its probably the start button i would think, just check ur button configs to see what it is.

Posted by Xos on July 4, 2009 at 1:11 a.m. #243

I live in Bangladesh and its been here for 2 days:D
Well I checked the config but there's no sign of START or anything. That's the reason am totally confused. Even I tried connecting the controller and press start button on it but nothing works.

Posted by adon's friend on July 4, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. #244

I'am a turtle fighter with ryu and of course I like to bait people into attackin but Vega is givin me problems need help?

Posted by cere on July 4, 2009 at 10:07 p.m. #245

Xos, try ESC key.

Posted by XsaintedsinerX on July 5, 2009 at 4:04 a.m. #246

Against cammy I use the FA wich seems to completely negate her spiral arrow if you are quick you can pop her before she can get her cannon spike off. As for vega it all depends on whos hands hes in a lot of vega players rely on you to stand back and throw fireballs all day. Be aggresive and you will catch them with short damaging combos and they will get frustrated and THEN you can start zoning them. As for the noobs who play blanka,vega,and bison who only use the same attacks over and over and over(ie bisons head stomp, vegas downward claw, and blankas blanka balls) BE PATIENT these tards will make mistakes. Just make sure you punish them severely and you will be suprised how quickley some people change thier game plan.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 5, 2009 at 4:48 a.m. #247

By the way my gamertag is XsaintedsinnerX on xbl i welcome all challngers and ryu fans.

Posted by Xos on July 5, 2009 at 8:41 a.m. #248

@cere. Thanks, it worked :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 5, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #249

Thx XsaintedsinerX. I utilize saving attack against a lot of characters, so i guess Cammy will just be another one. Well i dont think i can buy it for PC until the 7-9th i think is when it will be sold around here (Canada is always a bit late on everything) ~.~ but for now i downloaded a cracked version just to test my buttons out and get use to the pc, i dont suggest downloading it, BUY IT.

Btw, is a permanent subscription on Windows LIVE 100% free or will it be p2p?

Posted by adon's friend on July 5, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #250

okay i need to throw fireballs more cuz I'am not aggressive at all but G1 I always get alot of points tho cuttyb87 PSN peace

Posted by adon's friend on July 5, 2009 at 8:30 p.m. #251

wtf is nerfed mean

Posted by sean on July 6, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. #252

I'm really good with sagat and with ryu but, every other character seems like a lost cause for me. Does anyone have any suggestions on another character i could get pretty good with? (NOT KEN for all you retards that are automatically gonna say him)

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. #253

@ sean
I would suggest F.Long. His general game is similar and his button combinations are the same and with his kick you still have that reflex anti-air attack you've grown accustomed to by playing ryu.His powerful overhead kick done at the right moments will also feel and can be used much like sagats knee.If you wanted to try a charge character i would suggest Guile. He has a good basic game but has the ability to do some pretty advanced combos and can put alot of pressure on your opponet in several ways. I use Guile quite a bit.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 6, 2009 at 4:22 p.m. #254

@adon's friend
nerfed essentially means made weaker because it was too strong or imbalanced.

@sean
Rufus? I think the fatty is a good choice because his moves and ultra are similar to ryu

Posted by sanwa boy on July 6, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. #255

Some1 please give me some tips on how to deal with Balrog boxer) using ryu..

Cheers

Posted by someone on July 6, 2009 at 6:22 p.m. #256

well ryu is good and i think fast but he is weak aldo i think being faster is better because in the middle of someone else attack he could counter fast

Posted by sean on July 6, 2009 at 8:18 p.m. #257

i have a question since you brought up guile, how do you do his ultra??? i don't quite understand his command input.

@ sanwa boy

it depends how you play, are you a turtle or do you usually run right up in boxer's face??? My idea is try the other than the one you usually do.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 9:57 p.m. #258

@ sean
Guiles ultra is certainly difficult vega has the same input. What you want to do is charge back and down at an angle,to release you want to go forward and diagonally down,go directly back where you started,and finaly forward and diagonally up.
For his flashkick super cancel its much easier. All you need to do is a flash kick input at an angle,then a normal flashkick input very quickly. Once you get his inputs down pat he is very fun to play.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. #259

@ sanwa boy
Fighting a balrog player can be a pain if they know what they are doing. The first thing you need to determine is he a turtle or an aggresive charge player(you should know right away by his starting move). After you have this established you can either start zoning or go right at him. Against most balrog players I find it best to do a bit a both. The trick is not to fall into attack patterns because balrog when played properly is a very quick character. Make sure you use your grabs I know it seems cheap but you will force him to release his charge and try to counter. Once you have him playing on your terms you can start utilizing more of your combos. He can also be a bit easy to read if not played right, just wait for a dash punch and knock the hell out of him for his trouble with an upercut DC combo.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 10:19 p.m. #260

Remember, ryu is the most balanced character in the game he has no truly bad match ups, only bad players. Playing him you are given more connections for you finishing attacks than any other character in the game. The best way to handle any fight is to figure it out as you go. You have so many options with ryu theres no reason to just do the same things over and over again. I have the most success with ryu by just comletely disrupting whatever plan my opponet has(ie a charge charcter cross up and often change sides,or just throw a few fireballs thier way, if you want to just sit there I'll gladly give you something to occupy your time with). Theres no real reason to have a plan for everyone, just have a good knowledge of what thier attacks do and what the recovery times are. Scrubby players and noobs fight with no real plan and you can't exactly plan for chaos, as for more experienced players they have a way of shutting down planned attack patterns quickly.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 10:36 p.m. #261

Forward+HP,shoryuken,FADC,EX hadoken,EX hurricane kick(it will connect anywhere on the stage)
clp,clp,cHp,light or EX hurricane kick
clp,clp,cmp,EX hadoken,ultra(in corner)
jump in HP,cHp,EX hurricane kick,EX hadoken,ultra(in corner you can also substitute an EX shoryuken after the kick if you are lacking gauge, or throw another EX hurricane kick after the hadoken.)
clp,clp,cmp,hadoken(a very safe short combo amd my fav because even if blocked it pushes your opponent away)
These are a few basic and effective combos and remember you can put a jump in attack or a safer forward mp before your light punches to suprise turtles

Posted by adon's friend on July 8, 2009 at 12:26 a.m. #262

Okay so thanks for the defination but who was nerfed on the game I think Able should be nerfed due to his and gief online play the lag really helps them out alot and

PSN name is CuttyB87 hit me up training lessons Ryu is my main but I can bounce around

Posted by XD on July 8, 2009 at 7:39 a.m. #263

Lol i just main Ryu 2 weeks ago...I was thinking geez I need other cha beside Abel XD

My PSN is : Thai-Pride
hit me if u wanna do a match

Posted by C'mon on July 8, 2009 at 7:53 a.m. #264

Some fight me I need to become the man with Ryu. He was always my first choice in every SF game..but the day SF4 came out..and saw Abel i was like omg his mine XD. Abel Ultra should be nerf abit..cuz its way to strong. I looked at some of u Retard Ryu or Ken or Sagat whos Think they can beast Abel easily by spamming...Keep this in mind are u just retard to trow fire ball at Abel when he have Ultra...! Thats 1 stupid move I've seen..alot Player do that..ok first round punish by Abel Ultra cuz u stupid enough to trow fireball. @nd round WTF, WTF u thinking trow that stuff again WTF..do some guys never learn geez.

ANyway do not underestimate Abel players like me cuz if u do 1 wrong shoryuken or fire ball! We would punish u hard with combo. or Worse Ultra which its a pain in the ass if landed on ur ass.

I SAY ALL THIS CUZ ITS SEEMS A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERESTIMATE ABEL PLAYERS! FOOL WE"LL PUNISH UR FIRE BALL

Posted by sean on July 8, 2009 at 9:51 a.m. #265

how many of you out there will purposely go easy on your opponnet without telling them and then will get a lecture from your opponnet then when you tell them you were going easy they think your lying.... the sad story of my life

Posted by sean on July 8, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. #266

how many of you out there will purposely go easy on your opponnet without telling them and they win and then you get a lecture from your opponnet then when you tell them you were going easy they think your lying.... the sad story of my life

Posted by Woot# on July 8, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. #267

@C'mon I will underestimate u, u seem to be retarded.

@sean I never go easy on anyone, people that cant play the game have to know they should at least be able to do something before they play online.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 8, 2009 at 2:43 p.m. #268

@sean i never go easy on people unless they are my personal friends OR its couteous in arcades when u can OBVIOUSLY beat the other side, let him/her win the middle round. But i wouldnt in online matches once i get game;today?

@Woot# lol @ ur comment to cmon

@C'mon ive been punished by that sort of ultra before, therefore, in any match with chun or able, i remind myself not to fireball when they got ultra. So if ur plannin to win that way, wont work against me!

Posted by beef on July 9, 2009 at 1:54 a.m. #269

going easy on your opponent is an insult to them and yourself. hasn't Ryu taught you the meaning of the fight yet. Always give your all or dont bother showing up.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 9, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. #270

IM SO ANGRY!!!! The game stores in my area had their SF4 pc release delayed to July the 17th!!! WTF!!! Im was really looking forward to play...

Posted by danjoru on July 9, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. #271

you should go down thier and Atomic Buster the store managers face

Posted by Akuma on July 10, 2009 at 7:43 a.m. #272

ryu IS NOT BETTER than gouki/akuma he hasn't trancended humanity lolz

Posted by dekto on July 10, 2009 at 7:45 a.m. #273

Why does an exshoryuken do less damage than a heavypunch shoryuken?

Posted by Woot# on July 10, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. #274

I cleared arcade mode with Ryu on hardest difficulty with 3 round setting and got 6 prefects 5 ultra finishes and first hit in all matches but didnt get to gouken after Seth... Is the requirements to get to him different depending on what difficulty u play on?

Posted by Woot# on July 10, 2009 at 12:46 p.m. #275

@Lucy aww I suffer with u, my computer crashed so now I just have a laptop from the stoneage :(

@dekto the EX shoryuken has more range and hits twice and lots of other juicy stuff, and Kens medium shoryuken does more damage than his flaming hard one cus the hard one has a lot more range and is really easy to hit with.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 11, 2009 at 2:57 a.m. #276

@Woot well at least you still got ur ps3 to play on ^^ and i got hit by a car last weekend so i cant rly go to the arcade either lmao

@dekto pretty much what Woot said, its just depends on ur situation. But u prob want to use the normal heavy shoryu for your solid combos in most occasions.

Posted by Woot# on July 11, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #277

u got hit by a car??!? damn, hope u get better soon. At least it doesnt seem too serious since u still post here but yeah... get better ^^ I want to fight you, you sure you dont want to buy a ps3? lol
btw... big LOL at #58...

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 11, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. #278

Yea im getting better. I really only have a broken pinky toe and some scratches on my side. I was lucky enough not to land on my head, thank god. I was actually considering a ps3 earlier on, but i thought it was pointless to spend an extra 400 bucks if it was coming out on pc. Looking forward to fight you too ^^
Yea i always find it funny how people call the best players in the world noob...it just doesnt make sense = ="

Posted by Woot# on July 11, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #279

I think that rajman is a scrub and dont really know who they are... Sooo ur not buying a ps3... guess I better fix my computer and get sf4 then :P

btw Im from Sweden. its 1.30am here now, dont know the difference in time and stuff... thingy.
and btw again are u a girl? cus losing to a girl would make me sad ^^ lol just kidding

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 11, 2009 at 10:21 p.m. #280

Oh ic. I dont know the time difference either. Im in pacific time zone. And no, i am NOT a girl, probably opposed to what you though up till now >_> i use this tag for nearly every game i play, and my clan mates all call me lucy so if you want to continue to call me that its fine if you dont find it weird yourself.
Ive actually came across some girls who are pretty good. Its a rare sight, but you can find a few in arcades :P

Posted by sean on July 11, 2009 at 11:03 p.m. #281

im sad i live in a very rural area of the usa...where i live i can't get high speed aka no xbox live so aka no online play ugh...just waiting till i can get my own place and move to city and play sf4 all day long online. Those will be the days. Anyways is it just me or can basically everyone whose anyone beat sf4 on the hardest difficulty??? Because i did and i thought i was Awesome but, then i tried Super Turbo (original) and got owned by the computers everytime. Are the games totally different in difficulty or is the difference like playing candyland and scrabble...there nothing alike??? Let me know your thoughts people!

Posted by Woot# on July 12, 2009 at 3:07 a.m. #282

Actually Luucy I have found that guys seem to use girlnames more often than girls do ^^ and I dont know but ive never heard about a girl being so into a game, so figured u werent, would have been cool though since as u say its kinda rare.

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 12, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. #283

Yea its true that girls would usually use more general names. Girls can get into games though. Like this girl named Alice (shes dam hot too) always likes to go to the arcade with me just to play random stuff. And i know she plays a lot of games at home too.
2 more days till release (or at least the store person said)!!!

Posted by Demonbreeder on July 13, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. #284

@Sean I think arcademode is easier in SF4, on hardest I can just spam FA+throw all the time and win with a perfect.

Posted by adon's friend on July 13, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. #285

is there a way to combo the forward medium punch ( collar breaker punch) with Ryu they say u can but I can't yet? any tips

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 13, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. #286

@adon's friend
personally i dont think its possible. I have never seen daigo succeed or attempt a combo from Ryu's overhead punch. If it is at all possible, timing, spacing would be too strict. I suggest just use it as that random tricky little dmg dealer than trying to combo from it.

1 day left!!! or i will bomb the store if they lied

Posted by Woot# on July 13, 2009 at 1:45 p.m. #287

Can link the collarbone breaker to super, and to shoryuken but thats almost impossible.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 13, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. #288

oh rly? Ive never seen it, but thx ill try that. I just spent like a good 30 min practicing my execution for
rush punch, crLP,crHP, and hurricane. i could do it before, just want to make sure i can at least get it 75+%.
I can also link crMP,crMP,crMK. But only like can do it 30%, that crMK is hard to link

Posted by heredity on July 14, 2009 at 1:08 a.m. #289

gotta say the PC version is totally worth the money. but it's kinda hard playing with the keyboard. how people here are playing with a keyboard vs. a joystick?

i finally beat the Challenge Mode trials, both Normal and Hard. They took damn forever to complete:
Normal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rPQq...
Hard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fzy6T...

Please leave a comment if you can.

Posted by heredity on July 14, 2009 at 1:09 a.m. #290

mean to say Ryu's Challenge Mode, will be finishing the others soon.

Posted by Woot# on July 14, 2009 at 8:33 a.m. #291

Ryus super can hit from pretty much any attack, I killed my brother with a lp + super once and he got pissed that its so easy to link into it, and if u hit someone crouching with a jump attack u can hit them with the ultra.

Posted by Ronald on July 14, 2009 at 10:35 a.m. #292

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Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 11:40 a.m. #293

@Adon's friend,

Yes you can connect Ryu's forward Medium Punch with a Shoryuken, i did it a couple of times but i still don't know the timing, it is totally different timing with forward High Punch.

Looking for a good and cool players to play with on PS3

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. #294

I think facing Blanka, Balrog (Boxer)and Chun-li also Akuma is hard using Ryu (especially Akuma) many noobs just ran away and do air fireball then teleport when they get cornered, if any one has any tip playing against Blanka and Balrog please let me know.

Trying to figure out how to counter Blanka after his horizontal rolling attack, by the way his EX horizontal rolling attack goes through any fireball/projectile attacks including Ryu's super and ultra for those of you who didn't know.

Posted by Woot# on July 14, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. #295

You can punish fireballspammers from like half a screen away and I cant imagine someone doing it being good enough to determine the distance and teleport away.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 11:58 a.m. #296

@ Woot

Yeah, that works on some players but they barely teleport when we are away from them, but good thing is Akuma's defense/HP is not that great, so if you exchange fireball hit, you'll see that you did more damage compare to Akuma's

Posted by Woot# on July 14, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #297

By the Im not sure but you could also use the hard hurricane kick, I think that one goes through Akumas ground fireballs if timed right gotta do it after the hadoken is thrown but fast enough so u wont get hit before the move comes out, think Akuma doesnt have that good recovery on his hadokens, its a good way to deal with spammers.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 3:01 p.m. #298

Yup, I found 1 player who is superb using Akuma, he didn't just do spam but he knows how to completely blend all of Akuma's moves.

Any idea how to deal with Blanka?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 3:02 p.m. #299

Oh and if anyone wants to play with me on PS3, you can send me an invite. my user name is Shin_Arnoldo usually on after 6PM

Posted by adon's friend on July 14, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. #300

HAHAHA i played u before shin I think ur main is Ryu but I think u were Akuma lol CuttyB87 is PSn gamertag I'll try to add u later

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 10:35 p.m. #301

Yup, my main is Ryu but i'm not that good and i hate Balroq, always having problem fighting him and i hate his High head butt, takes too much damage :(

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 11:21 p.m. #302

Being absent for 15 years in Street fighter really makes your reflexes super slow :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 15, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #303

@Woot
Hurricane kick is good for akumas who spam ground fireballs, especially that fiery one. But most smart ones wont if you are already standing and can hurricane. Akuma's deadliest weapon is that flip kick thingy, still often confuses me :(

@Shin_Arnoldo
I havnt fought many good Blankas yet, most are easy to deal with so far. Maybe just dont fireball when u know they got ex bar? Or fake your hadoken, if you what i mean ^^. If they dont fall for that, idk, maybe random neutral jumps at full screen? Im not 100% sure but i think Blanka's ex roll is full screen, so it might not be 100% safe, but its a tricky timing if u do it out of random when he sits on charge.
I personally have trouble with Balrog too, not enough experience fighting them. But this is what my friend (Scrubbydan if u have heard of him) told me to do against balrogs:
Play hella defensively; keep distance and try to figure out his attack trends and what moves he uses often. If he uses dash punch/low dash push a lot using Saving to punish him for them. If he turn punches, just have your shoryu go at him, or block and poke/saving infront of him with some distance so his light punch dont rach (cause a lot like to sweep after). Usual rule, if he turtling dont jump into him; that cr.HP will hurt, and if you try to crossup him on wakeup, you might just get a headbutt up your ass! When they charge at you with an ex, get ready for your ex shoryu!

Thats about all i know. I am very sad, the store still doesnt have the shipment in, and they dont know when either :(

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 15, 2009 at 3:04 p.m. #304

Btw Woot i consider Ryu's super best in the game because if its easy link and possibilities to land!

I forgot to mention too, if Blanka's rolls (vertical or horizontal) are blocked, you can land your Shinku hadoken as they approach landing. Timing is a bit tricky

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 15, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. #305

Thanks for the tip Lucy, i know how to deal with akuma now as i have this online friend who is very good with using him, and one thing that you should remember is that if both players are on the edge of the screen and akuma did his heavy red fire ball DO NOT BLOCK IT !!! you should jump over it because if you do then he will do that ex jump forward thing and will throw you and you don't have a chance to counter attack but not too many people know this.

Does anyone uses a D-Pad? i have problems with it when i have my superbar full, everytime i'm on defending low and want to do a shoryuken it will do Super hadouken instead but if not full then it will do a shoryuken, sometimes it bugs me alot since it is not what i wanted it to do, not sure if you use an arcade stick

Balrog's turnaround is too quick, its hard to time it right, but going to try to do some thing against him and hopefully it will work...... assuming i will play against him that is LOL

By the way do you guys ever get someone cursing at you because you beat them?

Posted by Woot# on July 15, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #306

I got like 100 hatemails so far, mostly from crappy Ken players just spamming SRK. And today I met someone playing online that didnt even know what a special move is... In a ranked match.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 15, 2009 at 3:57 p.m. #307

@Shin_Arnoldo
yea i have a stick and it does do accidental super hado sometimes when i try shoryu, not that i mind, its just not what i wanted to do lol. Yea i tend not to block Hados if i dont have to. Neutral is great as long as you want to hold your position there, but chances are u dont with akuma.

Its like that in every game, if they cant beat you, they just talk sh!t and try to make themselves feel better. Lolz

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 15, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. #308

LOL, yeah, by the way do you play on PS3 Woot and Lucy? if so anychance i can add you guys as friend? i sent request to Adon's friend last night and not sure if he accepted it yet :P and when will EVO be held this year? is it in LA or New York?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 15, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #309

I dont have a ps3, infact i dont have SF4 at home yet, but will get on pc. I do know that Woot has SF4 on his PS3, so ask him. EVO is taking place in probably around 24 hours from now in Vegas!

Posted by sean on July 15, 2009 at 9:34 p.m. #310

btw i have finally chosen my honorable mention....if anyone wants to know! It's Blanka!!!!

Posted by Woot# on July 16, 2009 at 8:04 a.m. #311

Demonbreeder666 on PSN
though I had some trouble today, got logged out all the time. Dunno why. And why is everyone using Sagat in ranked matches? 99/100 matches is Sagat noobs doing random ultras and spamming tigershots... Its harder to play unranked LOL

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 16, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. #312

NOOOOO !!!!!!!!! Not Blanka !!! i have the worst record playing against him only have 54% win rate :((((

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 16, 2009 at 8:56 a.m. #313

@ Woot#
I think because Sagat is overpowered, it takes less hit to kill an opponent using Sagat and his recovery from tigershot is pretty quick and his ultra can juggle too :( also he is tall so people tend to kick early when they jump towards him

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 16, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #314

YAYAYAYAYAAY I GOT THE GAME!!! lol yea i owning up some rank matches. Out of around 20, i lost to 1 balrog, 1 blanka, 1 sagat and 2 dhalsim. For some reason, championship mode is quite laggy. :(
Woot get ur pc working soon ^^
Windows LIVE tag: LushyLushy

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 16, 2009 at 4:18 p.m. #315

Awesome, i wish you have ps3 :P

Posted by Shoryuken this on July 16, 2009 at 7 p.m. #316

There are way too many people that main Ryu. I know people flock to easiest most powerful character but it's getting ridiculous. Yeah Sagats more powerful but he is not as fun and a lot less people play him. Championship mode is not even worth playing anymore unless you want to play an army of Ryus. Please learn some other characters and help the community.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 16, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. #317

mmm that is funny, when i play Championship i get mostly Sagat or Ken or Balrog and some Ryus.

I do play other characters but i want to be able to master 1 first before going to the next one, even though you do have a point Shoryuken this

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 16, 2009 at 10:41 p.m. #318

@Shoryuken this
i think you're just crying...
Wins nearly 90% :)

Posted by Woot# on July 17, 2009 at 4:36 a.m. #319

Think its gonna take like a week maybe to get my PC working again, got my birthday in 6 days so Im gonna try get some new stuff for free lol.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. #320

awesome :D, i wish i can get one new pc but i sure hope to have 1 arcade stick tournament edition :D going to get that on my birthday ...... if my wife lets me that is LOL

Posted by adon's friend on July 17, 2009 at 9:08 a.m. #321

my ryu is getting hella better Cuttyb87 psn network

Posted by Shoryuken this on July 17, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. #322

Lucy,

I'm not crying. My win rate is around 80% and that's with using multiple characters. It just gets really boring fighting Ryu after Ryu. After Diago won that tournament in San Francisco. Everyone decided to main Ryu and most of them play the same way. I'm not trying to insult anyone that plays Ryu because he is the most balanced character and he's fun to play. My point is there are a lot more characters and it would be great to see more of them in Championship mode.

Posted by Shn_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. #323

@ adon's friend
I hope i can learn from you tomorrow :D what time do you usually gets online

@Shoryuken this
my win rate is just 70% i'm a noob LOL, strangely i get to fight little ryu when i play championship maybe about 15 to 20% only

Posted by Woot# on July 17, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. #324

Think my winrate is like 40%, my brother kicks my ass all the time.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 11:09 a.m. #325

You must let him win so that he won't get upset and gave up playing again :D

Posted by adon's friend on July 17, 2009 at 11:20 a.m. #326

I live in Cali so 2morrow would be at around 1 cuz I will be working an overnight shift so to avoid me cheaping our match with me being tired I will hop on at around 1 lookin forward to the match with my Ryu and urs?

@Shin Arnaldo who is ur main Akuma Right?

Posted by adon's friend on July 17, 2009 at 11:22 a.m. #327

whats a better way to croosup with RyU It seems he can be attacked after he lands

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. #328

@ adon's friend
Nope my main is Ryu :P and the best way to crossup with Ryu is using medium kick, that is the only one that you can do it with (well light kick too but not as effective).

If the opponents block the cross up then yes they can attack you after you land but if it is a hit then they cannot attack you unless the timing when your kick is too high.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. #329

I live in Cali too but 1 pm tomorrow might not good for me as that is the time that my wife wants to go out and i promised her but we'll see if i can do it maybe later during the day

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 17, 2009 at 4:41 p.m. #330

@adon's friend and Shin_Arnolo
Personally i think the lite kick is a better cross up. It comes out faster, and it can be done deeper than the medium kick. The medium kick also enlarges ur hitbox while the lightkick doesnt and has a good downward vertical range. Both are good, but light kick is the better cross up choice in my opinion.

@Shoryuken that
ok. Sry for saying what i did earlier. I play other characters to fool around but will only play Ryu if i want to win because i know his links better. I agree with Arnoldo though, i dont see too many Ryus either, like 10%.

Posted by adon's friend on July 17, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. #331

okay I see we have an audience lol my main is Ryu and in Alpha I pick Adon but my prob is stf4 is that Ryu isn't as dominate as he use to be with his dragon punches but ill still manage to turtle up alot and rushdown when nesscary but I need to work on my cross-up game alot more any more tips I like the medium kick but sometimes my timing is off and I get countered alot

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 18, 2009 at 12:21 a.m. #332

guess just work on ur timing then ^^

Posted by adon's friend on July 18, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. #333

I won 2 G1 championships yesterday and I did work on my cross up game and it worked alot more I beat 3 sagats 2 chun' li's Guile's and Giefs on my Road to awesomeness but I noticed the closer to the ground the better for a cross-up normally I don't accept bad connections but thats all I was getting last night lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 18, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. #334

Oh nice. I just got into G2 today. I think im a long way away from G1 lol. I realise i too have the most trouble with balrogs. My win win rate for that is like 36%, probably gonna get lower

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 20, 2009 at 8:49 a.m. #335

@adon's friend
I wish i can play with you so i can learn :( but you weren't on last night, maybe today? is it true that you need to win at least 100 G2 championship before you can go to G1? was it at 15000 points? i can only play few games a day

Posted by Adons friend on July 20, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. #336

Yea its 15,000 and I seen ur vid Shin_arnaldo ur damn good and u played hard on the comeback and got the W so I do want to play u just stay online when I played last night u logged off an hour before I got home from work lol

Posted by Adons friend on July 20, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. #337

Yea its 15,000 and I seen ur vid Shin_arnaldo ur damn good and u played hard on the comeback and got the W so I do want to play u just stay online when I played last night u logged off an hour before I got home from work lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 20, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. #338

i think i still got a lot to learn. Players at finals of G2 gives me difficulties. One thing about the pc version is that it seems more laggy than the consoles ones, which really gets me. When i went back to arcade mode to unlock some stuff, it seemed like i was playing on turbo or something O_o

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 20, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. #339

@adon's friend
Lol, i just got lucky and not sure if it was a good match too me it was boring, what time do you get home from work? i'll be online tonight and hopefully you can teach me a trick or 2 :P

@Lucy,
The problem with pc in many games is that if your pc is superfast then your game tends to be faster, console has the same standard, lagging can be caused by many things that is why i don't like playing this kind of game on pc but they do have better graphics, and i found a little trick to fight against balrog, if they dash and you happened to be on the other end you can actually toss them before they hit you but its hard to do, but this only works if they use medium or heavy attack though

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 20, 2009 at 7:28 p.m. #340

yea thats prob why. Yea ive gotten that throw thing a couple lucky times but i wouldnt rely on it >_>

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 20, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #341

Played with adon's friend today, he is awesome and i learnt alot

Posted by adon's friend on July 20, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. #342

I'm good but I need to fine tune some things but my ryu is getting better but I do want to learn how to pick Akuma for some reason lol. But Shin Arnoldo is good and some parts better than me lol u got skill

CuttyB87 PSn tag

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 20, 2009 at 11:04 p.m. #343

u guys sound a lot better than me XD

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 21, 2009 at 8:11 a.m. #344

I know a great Akuma player and he is a cool guy too, I have him on my friend list, but don't remember his user name on top of my head, I'll ask him if he wants to play with you. trust me he is not an ordinary Akuma user.

and I think I need to remain super calm, I get paniced to esasily LOL

Posted by adon friend on July 21, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. #345

@ Shin Arnaldo I notice u try to fadc alot to get back in the match normally I would attempt to do it but I need the timing but try to play defensively and make ur opponent make the mistake and counter it RYu has enough defense and alot of punishing offensive moves if they mess-up

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 21, 2009 at 9:46 a.m. #346

hehe, yeah that is my favourite move.

I always have problems when people starts to do that focus attack, I'm not used to that, last I play was 15 years ago and it was Hyper fight/dash. just started playing SF4 about 2 months ago.

Next time I will be better :D

Going to work out on chain combos if I have time that is Lol

Posted by adon's friend on July 21, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. #347

@ shin arnaldo chain combos for Ryu should end up either in a hadoken or shoryuken, and maybe a hurricane kick and if u notice I play to the corners alot more baiting people and fighting in the corner and its possible to ultra everyone after 1 of those attacks in the corner and your chain combos are good I need my poke strings to be as good as urs

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 21, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. #348

Yup, I would like to keep them on the corner but sometimes when I get panic (very easily) I tend to forget everything and become clueless (not to mention my daughter and my wife bugging me :P)

and I almost never play against player that uses Ryu's forward High Punch, that thing takes lots of damage

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 21, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. #349

Its a nice move to throw out there sometimes due to its high priority. Some people think they can counter it in time but you end of hitting em, or if blocked u have a chance to mix it up here.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 21, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. #350

Yeah and adon's friend caught me with tons of those

Posted by adon's friend on July 21, 2009 at 6:12 p.m. #351

thats my favorite way to land the shoryuken and since I played with Shin Arnaldo I started fadc and using my ultra and I won a championship after my matches with Shin Arnaldo good sparring

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 22, 2009 at 10:28 a.m. #352

What is the best way to deal with Sagat's forward jump using medium punch?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 22, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #353

For if your jumping at him as well? Maybe Ryu's forward jump hard punch? Comes out fast and has good priority. I know Ryu's hard kick gets beaten by Sagat's, at least i think so

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 22, 2009 at 3:18 p.m. #354

Naw, I was on the ground, my reflexes is not as quick as 15 years ago so having problem doing shoryuken and I use a D-Pad that makes it harder to do

Posted by adon's friend on July 22, 2009 at 4:26 p.m. #355

When I fight Sagat I try to block the attack and since they almost always try to follow it up with a tiger uppercut I punish them after it. and try to stand up and up and dodge incoming fireballs and jump in on him

I like beatin sagat when I'am the aggressor don't wait

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 22, 2009 at 9:16 p.m. #356

a good sagat wont let you jump in on them w/o doing at least a trade with you (and he will do more dmg). I was bored today so i went through Cammy's trials, and started playing her online and its so much fun, ofcourse not as good as my Ryu, but shes just fun, sadly her crossup kinda sucks (i know this doesnt belong in Ryu section but you guys are cool lol) My sagat win ratio is 67% just now, 2nd lowest, balrog still far lowest lol

Posted by adon friend on July 23, 2009 at 12:14 a.m. #357

I understand man I have alot of akuma's trials done and I like to use him but I like to fight and I hate spamming fireballs all day so Shin_ arnoldo beat me 2 with my akuma

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 23, 2009 at 8:40 a.m. #358

Playing Akuma is not as hard as I used to play him ever since I played with that guy (forgot his username but on my friends list), basically you must be brave enough to trade hits with Akuma, if he jumps do a fire ball on him, depending on his distance use different speed, even if you get hit by his fire ball, you will lose less health compare to him, especially if you do a ex fire ball, and if you can time it right you can trade his air fire ball with your super or even ultra, did it many times.

Getting better on playing against balrog now, but only against average balrog player, beat 2 to 3 of them yesterday, but i can tell that they are an average balrog user.

Posted by adon friend on July 23, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #359

against balgor i like to use my medium kick to stop him from running end and don't try to trip him alot cuz his buffalo headbutt goes through everything

Posted by Ken on July 23, 2009 at 8:10 p.m. #360

Hi,
I've been lurking around this page for about a week, and i must say all the information is really helpful.

Can somebody spar with me if they have time? I would definitely like to improve my Ryu.
THanks!
Ken
username on PSN - STNKEN
i'm usually on after 9 pm PST

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 24, 2009 at 8:21 a.m. #361

@Ken
Not sure if I can play after 9 pm and I am not that good but will be glad to have a sparring friend. I'll try to add you tonight but will need to get wife's permission to play :P

Posted by adon's friend on July 24, 2009 at 8:22 a.m. #362

@ Ken okay I will go some rounds with are u in G1 or G2? sparring with friends can really haelp ur game alot and get ur execution down

Posted by Shuusui on July 24, 2009 at 10:27 a.m. #363

About that crossupdiscussion, I mostly use HP, find it more effective than the others against most characters.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 24, 2009 at 12:05 p.m. #364

You guys and your PS3s, im jealous lol

@Shuusui jump in HP you must be slightly infront of your opponent to land the cross up. Yes it does the most damage, and longest stun, but it also leave you most vulnerable for wake up watevers. Plus the spacing on the cross up is harder than the others.

Do add to that discussion, yea i have to use medium kick more often now cause in slightly laggy games i dont seem to have 100% timing on my cross up light kick. I still do it sometimes, but have to use medium kick a bit more. Especially if i want to do a standing hard combo after

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 24, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. #365

@Shuusui
HP doesn't work well against Sagat's air medium punch

@Lucy
you should buy a ps3 so that we all can play together :D

Posted by adon friend on July 24, 2009 at 5:28 p.m. #366

I use the HP against zangief and I beat his lariet with alot and when we trade on the shoryuken I go staright in to my ultra

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 24, 2009 at 8:05 p.m. #367

I was going to, but i need to save my money. I cant get a job for at least another year cause i need to focus on studies. My saving are running low already, cant afford to spend that extra 400.

HP on jump in on his lariot? It would work if hes already in lariot i guess

Posted by Ken on July 24, 2009 at 10:20 p.m. #368

@Adon Friend and Shin Arnoldo

what's your sn's?

i'm a G2-D

Posted by Adon friend on July 25, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #369

@Ken I'am G1 E haven't been playing lately but whatever adn my Gamer tag is CuttyB87

Posted by Shoulder Throw on July 26, 2009 at 5:03 a.m. #370

Hey can anyone help me am looking to find out how to do the shoulder throw.thanks

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 26, 2009 at 8:12 a.m. #371

@Ken
I'm at G2-C but only play 2 to 3 championships when i have the chance, my user name is Shin_Arnoldo

@Shoulder Throw
Standing next to opponent (neutral or forward) and press both low punch and low kick together

Posted by adon friend on July 26, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. #372

I seen some vids on how to link ur collar breaker punch into a shoryuken and I can do it but not with consistence

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 26, 2009 at 2:13 p.m. #373

@Shin_Arnoldo
you mean light punch + light kick right? ^^

@adon's friend
maybe i should practice collar breaker into shoryu too. Approximately what would the spacing be?

Posted by moves on July 26, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. #374

is there antwere else i can find more info on how to do more moves?

Posted by adon's friend on July 26, 2009 at 7:43 p.m. #375

@lucy... its like not far but close enough to hit them with both punches lol naw but honestly hella close try to like punch to help the link or a standing light kick works also

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 27, 2009 at 9:46 a.m. #376

@Lucy
Yes, you are right

@Lucy and adon's Friend
It is totally kinda hard and not always effective as the Shoryuken doesn't really hit properly and damage is kinda low (it doesn't hit like when you do the forward High punch and then shoryuken)

Posted by adon friend on July 27, 2009 at 11 a.m. #377

@ Shin Arnodlothats a move for when u r trying to fadc and go straight for the win cuz when I figure out the correct spacing I will let all the RyUs know or maybe I wont lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 27, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. #378

@adon friend
lol you meanie, jk :P yea i was thinking if that shoryu is FADCable, then it would have quite the use if you can do it pretty solidly. Get up and overhead...wait a second, i lost 1/3 bar? lol seems like something good to know for sure. Right now im not confident to linking anything to it so i just go for the low medium kick poke into hado, it works a lot too lol. Actually, ive seen daigo do 2 collerbreakers in a row as mixup (not linked ofcoz). but its a nice mixup if they think you going for the low again

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 27, 2009 at 3:40 p.m. #379

@Lucy and Adon's friend, you can FADC if it hits on the starting animation but when you do the collarbreakers, the shoryuken doesn't hit on the first animation, it was kinda on the way to the air, but i could be wrong, will do some testing later on

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 27, 2009 at 10:20 p.m. #380

ok good luck ^^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 28, 2009 at 8:28 a.m. #381

collarbreakers to shoryuken will only works if the opposition is on a standing mode, if he crouches the shoryuken can be blocked, i did the recording mode and tested it already and yes you can fadc to ultra with it but again they have to be on a standing position

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 28, 2009 at 2 p.m. #382

i guess that kinda defeats the purpose of the overhead punch. But might as well know the combo if they decide to get hit by it anyway while standing

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 28, 2009 at 4:18 p.m. #383

Yup but trying it is not a good idea, as its either you failed success or failed and get hits in counter attack

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 28, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. #384

yea i guess

Posted by adon friend on July 28, 2009 at 6:44 p.m. #385

i think thats what happened when i played my brother he stood up and it looked like he wasn't moving oooooo

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 29, 2009 at 8:04 a.m. #386

woohoooo I beat 3 Balrog to win 2 championship yesterday :D

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 29, 2009 at 12:47 p.m. #387

Congratz ^^ my balrog win rate is like 50+% now, still my lowest, but a lot better than before :)

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 29, 2009 at 2 p.m. #388

Becareful of his overhead dash attack it connects with his low punch/kick then headbutt

Posted by adon friend on July 29, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #389

wow u guys are so into street fighter its not funny maybe I should play more currently I been playing gears of war 2 but I should get on after work tonight

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 29, 2009 at 10:52 p.m. #390

well besides SF i play a lot of DotA if you guys know what that is lol. I gained like 1k GP today :)

Posted by Woot# on July 30, 2009 at 7:19 a.m. #391

PSN is getting lamer than ever, I guess I prefer playing on computers cus theres not a ton of 8year old scrubs constantly whining about losing. Think I have like 30 players blocked now... Yawn

Posted by Woot# on July 30, 2009 at 7:56 a.m. #392

btw, if you land a LP Shoryuken and then an EX Hadoken in the corner, can you juggle with the ultra?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 30, 2009 at 8:15 a.m. #393

@adon's friend
I only play for a bit, not much time to spend like 15 years ago max like 2 hours that is if i'm lucky enough

@Woot#
looks like you get more than I do, i have 2 so far but i don't really play that much and yes after low shoryuken then ex hadouken you can juggle with ultra but the distance has to be very close but ultra will not hit everything (not 8 hits) and we all know that Ryu's ultra does the most damage on the last hit.

but depending on where you hit, if you hit them on the ground then you can do it but if you hit them on the air, better if you go directly into Ultra

Posted by adon's friend on July 30, 2009 at 9:27 a.m. #394

@ Shin Arnaldo yea man I was like 5 when I first started playing street fighter 2 and I was a fireball guy all I did was throw fireballs when Ken and do his grab roll I was good but to bad those days of just playing is now over lol

@Woot# If the player is in a juggle state RYU can land his ultra with ease

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 30, 2009 at 10:28 a.m. #395

Yeah i missed those days (kinda except for losing on that semifinals on national championship in aussie (so they say) out of 10,000 people for 3 days cost me 2 weeks of no sleep wondering why did i lose), i retired pretty much after that only playing for fun not competition

Posted by Woot# on July 30, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. #396

Thanks Arnoldo, yeah the last hit on ultra doesnt connect, same with the fadc from EX hado midscreen, but its easy enough to combo into a shoryuken and FADC so thats not a big deal. Just want to find some new combos to try ^^

I play like 9 hours a day, though I have noticed that when its night here, a lot of good players are online. Most annoying thing is that I have friends playing on PSN, XBL and on PC so now Im thinking of buying it to everything lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 30, 2009 at 1:58 p.m. #397

@Woot#
lol, yeah i used to spend about 5 to 7 hours a day playing on arcade

if you want to try new combo you can do whatever combo then shoryuken to super then ultra, it works everywhere but the ultra only hit 3 times, but it is handy when you did it until super and saw that they still have a little life left thinking they can make a comeback but suddenly ultra appears and kill them off instantly :D did that quite a number of times. it just look cool though

if you want to be fancy you can do this (in the corner) FA lv 3, then forward HP, crouch low punch, standing medium kick, hadouken, FADC, crouch medium punch, crouch heavy punch, Heavy Shoryuken, FADC then ultra :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 30, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. #398

@Woot# just get the pc version to play with me lmao.

@Shin_Arnoldo
Yea, i just did that to a couple guys, its pretty funny, cause that ultra at the end does like... half a centimeter of damage lol, but enough to kill if necesary.
Wow that combo looks intense lol, be funny to ever pull something like that off in a match fully linked, it'd look so pro lmao

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 30, 2009 at 3:37 p.m. #399

@Lucy
yeah, i did a different version once and it is kinda cool, but nothing can be remembered :(

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 30, 2009 at 7:40 p.m. #400

ive done crMP, crMP, hado FADC something to shoryu FADC ultra before, just for fun.
Oh, sometimes i try to do crMP,crMP,crMK, hado for fun, its a lot of damage for 3 hits (excluding hado)

Posted by help wanted on July 31, 2009 at 2:19 p.m. #401

how do you counter bison's ex headstomp with ryu?

Posted by Woot# on July 31, 2009 at 2:23 p.m. #402

@help wanted You dont counter it.

Posted by help wanted on July 31, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #403

how do i counter regular headstomp?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 31, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #404

@help wanted
There are a few tricks to over come it but its not that easy

1. you can jump backwards and do a quick high kick (depending on where you are)
2. dash backward / walk backward (dash is better) they will land in front of you and you should be able to counter as he land (but this also depends on where you are) if he did the headstomp you should be walking backwards as you press back, if he did with the punch then you will be on the block mode)
3. you can do ex shoryuken (but timing and distance are important)
4. blocking is the best option if you are not to sure what to do (since he can only do a maximum 4 times with full bar, you don't lose much hp blocking it)

i'm sure there are other ways to counter it but i hope this helps

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 31, 2009 at 7:27 p.m. #405

@help wanted
probably the dash back or jump back hard kick are the best or at least easiest options. Cause even if it is the purple hand, if your jumped back he cant hit you i think. Oh btw, the hand is Savingable if he tries to hit you with it, most dont, but they might once in a while.

My problem with bison, when i get scizor kick pressured by a good bison, i dont know what to do, i just end up trying to jump away, which doesnt always work. Maybe i try to shoryu, but sometimes the time i put in command i get hit by the sizors. Sometimes he goes for the ex headstomp if he predicted my jump >_> yea bison is now my 2nd worse matchup

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 1, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. #406

@Lucy
against sizors kiock best if you block it, depending on their distance after that kick you can do certain things

if they land too far away from you don't do anything, if they land not so far you can do light punches, if they land near you, you can always go forward and toss them (i pretty much get them very often with this one)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 1, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. #407

yea i know. It usually depends how well they know their sizor pressure me if i win or not, i do punish them for bad sizors. And maybe its just me, sometimes bison's crossups confuse me

Posted by adon friend on August 1, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #408

Bison is easy heere's way spam fireballs and he has to jump he is strong but doesn't have alot of defense rush him and since he is a charge character he needs time for his moves and 1 more thing if u keep jumping in on him his ex head stomp or his regular stomp have priority on everything just just dash back and grab

I need help on beating rufus not alot of people use him so I have a odd time beating him

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 1, 2009 at 3:25 p.m. #409

Rufus is kinda weak on cross up, and his diagonal jump kick you can block down i think, try not to jump in on him as his kick is quick, zoning him is the best option

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 1, 2009 at 3:41 p.m. #410

@adon friend
Yea ill have to agree with Arnoldo, zone him as much as you can, but Rufus can get to you quick with dive kick and spin thing. Try to saving his messiah kick and sometimes dive kicks. If he divekicks you to cross you up, i think shoryus usually dont work (not sure) but you can spam standing LP on wake up and itll hit him out of divekick lol. Be conservative about jump ins

Posted by Ken on August 1, 2009 at 5:57 p.m. #411

@Shin_Arnoldo

what was the 5 hit combo that you use?
was it...jump kick, crouch SP, crouch MP, crouch MK, fireball?

also,
i noticed when i played you, you were able to use the dragon punch (while i was jumping toward you) really late. is this more of a timing thing? or does the medium dragon punch have more priority than small dragon punch?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 1, 2009 at 7:42 p.m. #412

@Ken
Jump Medium kick (overhead), crouching light kick, crouching light punch, crouching medium punch then hadouken but you can have many variation of course

It is a timing thing but also some you got hit because you didn't attack me and i do not use medium but high dragon punch (higher priority i think)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 2, 2009 at 1:40 a.m. #413

@Ken
yea that combo you described looks impossible, or if it was, it would be godly. Like a 300 dmg from just normals lmao
The medium dragon punch really has no use imo, the hard does the most dmg, highest priority, furthest hit range, therefore best for FADC and light has good juggling setups if used for anti air... but medium... just... has nothing specifically useful about it.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 2, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. #414

@Lucy
Actually there is a little use for it but doesn't happen much

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 2, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. #415

oh really? what is it?

Posted by adon friend on August 3, 2009 at 9:41 a.m. #416

Hey Ken I will love to play u I also learned alot after playing shin arnaldo hit me up CUttyb87

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 3, 2009 at 1:14 p.m. #417

@Lucy
Not telling :P lol, well basically it is good against someone who did a neutral jump, and when you do it at the right moment you can follow up with ex hadou/super

@Ken
if you play adon's friend becareful when he jumps towards you and do a high/medium kick, next you know he will toss you :D but he didn't do that if he land close to you though :P and when trapped in the corner and you are down, don't try to counter as he like to use crouching medium kick then ex tatsumaki then ultra :P and careful of his forward high punch, he likes that alot :P he is a calm type player only by uncalming him then you can win :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 3, 2009 at 3:13 p.m. #418

oh really? I must try it XD thats awsome

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 3, 2009 at 8:39 p.m. #419

@Lucy
I meant with super only :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 3, 2009 at 9:57 p.m. #420

oh its cause it goes higher than the light. ICIC :)

Posted by adon friend on August 4, 2009 at 9:32 a.m. #421

Wow Shin u told my secrets to be a great st4 player its all about the set-ups and counters lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 4, 2009 at 9:42 a.m. #422

LOL, i'm sure you already have the counter of all those set-ups hehehee

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 4, 2009 at 3:38 p.m. #423

A friend of mine said if a guy is trying to tick throw you a lot, dont bother trying to tech, remember his tick throw patterns and uppercut them lol. People can pretty much pull a lot of successful tick throws on me in first match, but after i start teching more. But i cant uppercut that fast usually lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 4, 2009 at 4:05 p.m. #424

Tech is better than countering in my opinion, counter is good too but sometimes they just pretend to tick and throw waiting for that uppercut to come, unless you have 2 bar of ex, it is not safe to do uppercut if it gets blocked unless you are100% certain that he will do a throw. few reasons are :

if you tech it you will need to press the throwing button, so if they did the tick and then wait for you to do shoryuken so that they can punish you for it, when you press the button, they will get throwed - you score :D

second if they did a chain command, you will still guard and you don't actually throw them but you are safe and if they fail to chain, you can actually throw them (depending on the range)

last if they did the throw you did a tech, you don't lose any HP but you will have a distance from them and from there you can decide your next move, by doing this often you will find that they will get frustrated and tend to lose their focus on the game.

if you use a pad, from blocking down then uppercut you are more likely to do a super (if you have full meter) rather than shoryuken unless you go to neutral first.

but if you have 2 bars then you can always do a shoryuken to counter and if they blocked it you can FADC then retreat or go forward to push for another attack or just keep on FADCing

but of course this is my opinion only

Posted by adon friend on August 4, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. #425

wassup yall I got the fadc down to a science care to c it

Posted by nomeUF on August 5, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. #426

Adon, ive been working on the same. Add me on xl is anything. my name is my tag.

Posted by adon friend on August 5, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. #427

@ nomeUF I have the gAME ON THE ps3 so I don't have it on the x-box360

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 5, 2009 at 10:17 p.m. #428

i think so too. He plays Sagat so somehow he always has bars for FADC lol. He did almost beat Jwong at evo. I went for a visit to the arcade today, havnt been for a while. my friend just came back from Japan so i got to spar with him :). I beat his viper once, then i lost 8 times lol, and he only played her for 4 days he said. He mains Ryu, and i was in awe when i saw him play against a extremely good Guile friend of mine. He has 33k BP in japan ranking. I hope i get to learn from him, as i do in all games i played at the arcade :)

Posted by Adon friend on August 5, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #429

@ Lucy what are u talking about?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 6, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. #430

Nothing really important, just some friend of mine. Just saying i have friends who are really good that i can learn from :)

theres a little tourney in my area this weekend...but what is stupid is...we arent allowed to bring our own fightpads/joysticks. We have to use their xbox controllers...and...i cant FADC ultra on controllers :(

Posted by adon friend on August 6, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. #431

really where I would love to go to a street fighter tourney lol I have it on the ps3 tho

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 6, 2009 at 10:07 p.m. #432

its in a london drugs (store) lmao

Posted by anthony rene perez on August 7, 2009 at 11:57 a.m. #433

i agree to the very first comment ryu needs to have a gudd speciall it not even fun usinqq it and its easy to dodge

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 7, 2009 at 1:47 p.m. #434

@anthony rene perez
um...no? its the best special in the game lol. It has so many setups where you can easily land it for a very solid 300 damage.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 7, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. #435

*super* i mean

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 8, 2009 at 12:26 a.m. #436

ok wish me good luck @ tourney tmr ^^ i hope i do well considering i cant use controller :(

Posted by adon friend on August 8, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. #437

@ Lucy use that ryu like no other good luck

Posted by Woot# on August 8, 2009 at 1:18 p.m. #438

Huge LOL at people saying Ryus super is easy to dodge, can be canceled/linked into from pretty much anything, all specialmoves, nromalmoves and uniquemoves. And it can be used as an antiair... guess you do it from full screen anthony?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 8, 2009 at 10:13 p.m. #439

yay i won :) :) :) lol, no prize money since it was free but i get this funny looking plaque and chun li figure. The entire time i couldnt FADC ultra until the last round of finals, but sadly he was in corner and i did it too early and it missed lol.

Posted by adon friend on August 9, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. #440

@ Lucy Wow good job man if I was their u still would of won lol go Ryu

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 9, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. #441

thx ^^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 10, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. #442

Is Lucy a guy!? I always thought that Lucy is a girl lol, anyhow congrats Lucy you deserve it :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 10, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #443

Im a guy, been over this with Woot :P

Something new to add: Crouching Shoryuken

Some of the shortcuts to the shoryu motion allows for a perfect shoryu from crouching position. I didnt know before, but this actually gives a big frame advantage. For example, if your opponent is going for a jump in (kind of infront of you) and you did a standing fierce shoryu, the two would trade hits, then you could ultra ofcourse. But if you did the crouching shoryu you would land the hit/counter hit without taking damage, and still go for the FADC ultra if you like. Considering ultra setup, you might think its a waste of 2 bars of meter, but that health you save is more important imo. And you can save that health everytime, not just the one time you want to land the Metsu. This is also a safer way to use the shoryu to counter Hurricane kicks with a stronger hit + ultra opportunity instead of just like crMP or crHP. I know it can also hit crossup, but i have not been able to do that yet, everytime i try i just get hit for the intire combo >_>, but i know it works.

Ive been practicing it, dont have it 100% yet, sometimes i try doing it and maybe cause of input lag i get hit for a painful jump in combo, but watever, its practice. Oh, the shortcut motion i use for this is; cr.diagonalFW/cr.Down/cr.diagonalFW. If you get use to using this motion, all your Shoryus will be crouching, which is good. Standing shoryus dont have any special advantages over the crouching one. ^^ hope this helped some people, and sorry for the long write-up, but i like to write more in-depth :P

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 10, 2009 at 1:52 p.m. #444

@Lucy,
It is the same Lucy, standing / crouching, the only differences is that when you are on a standing mode you tend to do it earlier since of course your opponent tend to kick/punch you earlier since you are higher compare to crouching, but if you did it at the right time, it barely trades at all. By crouching, your opponents tend to have his attack done already that is why you barely trade any hits but it still can trade, the problem with crouching is if you time it off, your opponent will already land and thus your srk will be blocked which results to .... if you don't have 2 bars to fadc it.

but it is very handy especially when you have them very close to you (like landing within your space)

Posted by Nashika on August 10, 2009 at 2:16 p.m. #445

Sometimes when I do j.HP c.MP c.HP EX tatsu to ultra in the corner, in the middle of the tatsumaki the opponent ends up on the wrong side and can block it or is send flying across the screen away from the corner, even though it hits. Can anyone explain why that happens?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 10, 2009 at 3:45 p.m. #446

@Nashika
It happens because the opponent get to far away after your cr. high punch, you must do it very close to the body so the timing and placing after you air attack is very important

what ex tatsu does is that the kick that hits will take the opponents to the otherside and so on so on for 5 hits it think but when an opponent get to far the kick that suppose to hit misses so they can guard. if you misses the final kick then the opponnent will be tossed away from the screen on the other side.

i hope this help

Posted by Nashika on August 10, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #447

Ok, thx Arnoldo ^^

Posted by adon friend on August 10, 2009 at 4:25 p.m. #448

I heard there is a big announcement coming soon and I hope its good news for RYU players lol I'm looking for a good match havig been playing in a while my execution is rusty but I need to sharpen my skills anytakers

PSN cuttyb87
I still need to play KEn lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 10, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. #449

@Arnoldo
a big announcement? Regarding change on the game? Or anything in general?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 10, 2009 at 5:28 p.m. #450

and i was told by Air that the crouching shoryuken can hit places the standing one cannot. I dont know, i havnt used it enough to know much about it.

Posted by Nashika on August 11, 2009 at 2:42 a.m. #451

hey woot# wtf thats my psn not yours

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 11, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. #452

@Lucy
I think you meant to ask adon's friend :P by the way i did some asking and they say that they will announce something at the Super Battle Opera this Friday, they say something about Dash version of SF4 (so it's a new game yes) but not too clear if there is going to be one sometime next summer, it's all still a rumor, we won't know until Friday.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 11, 2009 at 2:56 p.m. #453

oh ic ic. I guess we'll see sometime soon then :) i heard rumors Dash will have old characters and the car smashing bonus back

Posted by adon friend on August 11, 2009 at 5:23 p.m. #454

Friday can't come fast enough lol I need an update lol

Anyone opinion on Akuma I mean he is a bad ass but Ryu is the shish who should i main now? need suggestions

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 11, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #455

Ryu!!!

Posted by Adon's friend on August 11, 2009 at 10:21 p.m. #456

@ Shin Arnaldo Its funny when I posted this I was palying with akuma and when I started losing with him online I was like wow and then I played u and Fell for the RYU Passion again lol

BTW Ign forums listed the meanings of the symbols if u complete all the hard trials my new one means "Violent" lol ;)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 11, 2009 at 11:08 p.m. #457

akuma is really fun, its fun to fool around with his combos. If excluding move set, i just like ryu cause hes classic lol.

Oh, so you have to finish ALL hard trials to get those kanji word icons?

Posted by Ken on August 11, 2009 at 11:15 p.m. #458

@ adon friend

lol, i keep missing you online!

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 12, 2009 at 8:04 a.m. #459

hard trials? is that just the survival and time attack? if so yes i have, if individual moves i'm over 90% :P.

I played with MrSNK yesterday and wohoooo i beat him once lol, i got whopped 5 times though lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 12, 2009 at 11:12 a.m. #460

I want those icons >.< how do i get them lol

Posted by adon friend on August 12, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. #461

MR snk who is that I need a match with him

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 12, 2009 at 1:07 p.m. #462

@Lucy
Beat all hard trials, if you have difficulty then use Zangief and spam that lariat lol

@adon friend
he is a pro i think, he plays Honda along with Mike Ross, there is a photo of them both at this site where it says MrSNK on the left and Mike Ross on the right :D his Honda is awesome, he can dance in the air, first time i've seen it

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 12, 2009 at 1:32 p.m. #463

@Arnoldo
thx thx ^^ wtf how does Honda dance in the air? Hes so fat! lol

I found out one knew thing today, some of you probably know, but i didnt. After a light tatsu (probably from a combo) you can juggle for more damage with a hard shinku hado. Im not 100% sure if they have to be in the corner or not, but im pretty sure they dont have to if you use the hard version.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 12, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #464

@Lucy
lol yeah i know, i didn't believe it until i saw it yesterday and i think i know how to do it lol

and yes i already know but the timing is quite difficult with hard shinkuu you can do it any where in corner you can do any other. if you do certain combo it will make you unable to do it (it won't connect) you can also do super after an air tatsu

Posted by adon friend on August 12, 2009 at 2:13 p.m. #465

@ Shin Arnaldo I spam the Lariat all day but I had to fight cammy is to hard lol

@ Lucy honda can dance in the air WTF I need to see that wow and its a light hurricane kick into ur super works alot no corner nessarry but it wouldn't hurt

buffer the move after u connect to go right into it when u land

Hey everyone I decided to main RYU forrrreveer no more bouncin around lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 12, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. #466

@adon friend
That's the spirit lol, oh and yes when we have the chance i'll show you how he dances in the air, it confuses me real bad lol

Posted by Madness on August 12, 2009 at 4:41 p.m. #467

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2059...

Posted by adon friend on August 12, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. #468

@ madness don't tell me its shawn or a good photoshop and was that the PC version or what I need ansewers

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 12, 2009 at 11:35 p.m. #469

ok after a bit of testing, any 1 normal to light tatsu then super works. After 2 normals, they get too far (but possible). Yea the air tatsu to super juggle i knew, always fun one to land.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 12, 2009 at 11:36 p.m. #470

Lmao, Jamaican Ryu! Awsomeness lol

Posted by Madness on August 13, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. #471

Yea it's the pc version...ahah one of many ryu mods

I don't even like ryu but thought you guys should see

Posted by adon friend on August 13, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #472

I have to get the fadc perfect but I think my problem is in my ultra any tips on perfecting it ?

@ Lucy he isn't Jamaican its Seab from 3rd strike lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 13, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. #473

@adon friend
you have problem with FADC ultra? mmm... slowly put in the motion of the ultra during the dash? i dont know, it came to me naturally lol

Oh, i didnt play 3rd strike, so it just looked like a jamaican to me lol

Posted by adon friend on August 14, 2009 at 12:04 a.m. #474

okay i get slowly

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on August 16, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #475

so has anyone gotten the pc version?

Posted by rang on August 17, 2009 at 3:08 p.m. #476

Yup, the pc version beats the consoles tbh. Everything is so damn crisp and you can listen to spotify or whatever while playing:p

Posted by adon friend on August 17, 2009 at 4:33 p.m. #477

no I have the ps3 version with Shin arnoldo and Ken were awesome

Posted by Ian on August 17, 2009 at 10:30 p.m. #478

SF4PC has some nice advantages if you want to customize your characters. U can see them and Shoryuken.com

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 18, 2009 at 5:53 a.m. #479

ive been practicing low med, hado, FADC, low med, shoryu/tastu. I cant do them consistantly yet, but i link it like 50% in matches if my FADC works at all. It does a nice 300+ dmg and more stun from just a originally gonna end with hado combo. If it was done like: Jump in HP, crHP, hado, FADC, crMK, heavy dp. Thats slightly over 400 with only 2 bars of meter! And for added damage and awsomeness (mainly this lol) u can go for the FADC again and ultra! Lmao, dont know how much that does, but its pretty cool anyway!

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 18, 2009 at 9:13 a.m. #480

@Lucy
It won't help at all the damage won't be the same as there is a damage scalling involved especially after fadc is involved and if one opponent's hp is less than 50% the damage done is being reduced by certain %.

and you can only do after fadc low med then shoryu/tatsu if you land close enough to them but it is very unlikely, besided if you can land close enough, you should do a low mp, low hp, hp shoryuken, it takes over 300 damage without using any bar or you can change the hp shoryu with ex tatsu

like Ian said you can go to that site and be a member, i just joined a training room not so long ago and there are quite a few pc players, if you want me to hook you up let me know, i'll introduce you all the members (note that some of them are pro) they will give you advice and all to improve your game, i use the same username on that site

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on August 18, 2009 at 3 p.m. #481

@Arnoldo
Ive been through shoryuken too(ive seen ur first post too). Yes damage scaling reduces a lot of what the combo would orignally do, but these variety of combos are still hurtful. The ultra after all that is kinda of a waste but i did mention it is just for looking cool purposes. And actually, you dont have to be that close, you only do if you are going for the shoryu. But for crMP, crHP into something, you do have to be right next to them, at least for the shoryu to hit. If you have the bar early in the round before you got your ultra, why not land one of these? they still hurt a lot even after scaling.

If you want to introduce me to some guys to train with on the pc version, ill gladly appreciate it ^^

Posted by adon's friend on August 20, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. #482

@ Shin Arnoldo sorry bout that my brother wanted to get worked lol he picks Ken so I'll let u fight him sometime he rushes alot so be careful

Posted by AssassinMist86 on August 20, 2009 at 4:24 p.m. #483

This is a nice combo if u can get your timming down
FA,fwrd+HP,crMP,crMP,crMK cancel to HK Tatsu.
Great Damage without wasting your meter ^_^

Posted by adon friend on August 20, 2009 at 10:40 p.m. #484

I've seen that combo Assassin Mist but I can't link it IDK y

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 21, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #485

That combo does not work against all characters, it is only certain characters, usually it misses the tatsu but you can always replace it with cr hk

and if you can do that combo i think best after FA you can do cr mp, cr hp and hp srk, it takes more damage.

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on August 21, 2009 at 7:54 p.m. #486

oh? can you go from cr.MK to cr.HK?

Posted by Ken on August 22, 2009 at 1:41 a.m. #487

what's the best way to counter Vega's jump off the wall crossover? (the one where they have to charge down)

Posted by adon friend on August 22, 2009 at 10:13 a.m. #488

@ ken I think u need to dash forwards or backwards don't stay still keep moving on them

Posted by Hamcookie on August 22, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. #489

@ken just as you see them jump up you should do a dragon and juggle into ultra or ex fireball...after hitting them 4 times like this they will try and make you fireball at them so watch out...

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on August 22, 2009 at 8:08 p.m. #490

@Ken
if they try do that, you can jump back and hard kick them. After they notice a few times, they might try to grab you, then you can either dash back or go for light shoryu + fireball/ultra. Dont try to shoryu everytime, it doesnt work all the time, you gotta really watch the range of his attack in relation to the angle he is flying toward you. You really want the one time you land it to be the finishing ultra kill. Dont fireball or jump around too much when Vega has ultra, except the occasional ones when he is not turtle charging. So if he backflips, he is still charging. Hope this helped.

Posted by AssassinMist86 on August 23, 2009 at 1:22 p.m. #491

like adon said best to keep moving, if u find yourself losin to vega often its probably because your not rushing him down enough or your staying still. i like to dash back or foward and throw a focus attack in there to keep him off balance. then when hes close to defeat set up your LP Shoryu ulta for the final blow. or another lil trick i like to do to those backflip whores is set up my cross up so they try to do a wake up back flip and then just punish him when he recovers! ^_^

Posted by ken on August 23, 2009 at 9:36 p.m. #492

cool, thanks for the info guys! i'll try them out tonight!

Posted by adon friend on August 24, 2009 at midnight #493

@ Ken yea man vega gave me probs 2 but i kept playing and started winning

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 24, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. #494

@Lucy
no you cannot, but you connect crouching mp to crouching hk

@ken
I don't think doing shoryuken to counter vega's wall jump cross over is a good idea
first of all you might not have a reaction fast enough to do it
second is that vega can go to either side of the wall thus making your shoryuken movement into the wrong direction if they go the other way
third is you cannot be so sure if they are doing a cross over they might be doing a claw instead (the one with punch)

depending on your position sometimes it is better if you just stand still or move forward but this again depends on which button they use

jumping back and hk is probably one of the best option or you can actually jump forward and do a mp

try not to jump if he has ultra unless like lucy said he is not charging

all of his dives using a punch can be punished with ex hadou or super, his ultra can be punished using ultra after you block it.

if you can take out his claw then this will help you as he has shorter range.

also if you see him has an ultra ready what i suggest is that you do a fake hadou (do the movement and press kick or just don't press anything) this usually leads them to ultra and you can guard and punish them with ultra

like adon said, once you encounter enough vega then you should be able to play better against them, they are hard to deal with but not that hard as many of their moves are punishable easily

Posted by adon's friend on August 24, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. #495

@ Shin Arnoldo Hey I notice ur rush with RYU is great so I decided to take that style and use alot of the same combos and moves u use and the rush style with RYu is way more effective against people normally I would turtle and keep away now I fight and win alot more in G1

PSn cuttyb87

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 24, 2009 at 9:58 a.m. #496

@adon's friend
Yeah mate you completely threw me off so many times as i was expecting you are playing the calm type but suddenly out of no where like a lion you just snatch me without me realizing that i lost all my hp :P

I still need to work alot on my ryu, sometimes i'm just confused as what combo i want to do when i score a hit :P also was experimenting on some combos too

I still get panicked easily and confused as to deal with fa and ryu's forward+Hp lol

and about the icon, no i'm still 90+% there are a few more that I need to get but don't have much will to do it :P as some are hard to do with standard dual shock pad

Posted by AssassinMist86 on August 24, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. #497

Hey Shin Arnoldo, u play on xbl or psn. if u play on xbl then i would def lke to challenge u to some friendly matches. my Ryu is not bad ^_^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 24, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #498

@Assassin
yours are not but mine is :D but luckily i'm on psn :P and i don't like challenges cause i'm a noob lol

Posted by AssassinMist86 on August 24, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. #499

any one up for some matches on xbl?

Posted by adon friend on August 25, 2009 at 9:39 a.m. #500

@ Shin Arnoldo ur hard on urself for some reason but yea my rush style is good for almost any shoto now Akuma is wy better and I 'm going to show u and for Ryu u need a go to combo I would go to the the dash punches into shoryuken that takes alot of power and when u get good at it u can dash punch c.mk c.mk into an hurricane kick major damage for real

Posted by Adon friend on August 25, 2009 at 9:42 a.m. #501

BTW I will be going as my PSN name with the forum boards
Cuttyb87 is here and I pick Akuma now because of the challenge of the rush he has and the difficulty of the matches lol
@Shin Arnoldo ur Ryu is great so lets go some rounds and see whats up

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 26, 2009 at 8:25 a.m. #502

@adon
Akuma? lol, you should never go to the darkside lol :P and you cannot connect dash punch c.mk c.mk to tatsu unless you meant c.mp c.mk to tatsu or c.mk to tatsu after dash punch :D but if i can do that i won't do it, i will do dash punch c.hp to hp shoryuken this takes more damage compare to the one you mention and if you have super and full ultra you can do dash punchec, c.hp, hp shoryuken, super, ultra this is Ryu's most damaging combo that i found over 640/670 either one

Posted by watch on August 26, 2009 at 3:33 p.m. #503

I already know since 90% of you fags use ryu online I just wanted to say your all pussy, thanks for your time

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 26, 2009 at 3:53 p.m. #504

another ryu hater lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 26, 2009 at 5:56 p.m. #505

@watch u must lose to RYU alot 4 u to waste ur time and trash talk on a forum get a life and play the game for fun or play another game

Posted by Cuttyb87 on August 27, 2009 at 12:24 a.m. #506

@ Shin Arnoldo great good today u showed me what I needed to work on and I felt u were holding back I needed u to own me like their is no tomorrow maybe next time I have to perfect my smaller combos so they can go into my bigger combos and my fighting style with Akuma

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 27, 2009 at 8:12 a.m. #507

:P well, i think you didn't punish me enough, so for instance when you score a fa you follow up with just hp shoryu or just toss me, you might want to do a close hp, light tatsu, hp shoryu. Akuma's light tatsu can be followed by his shoryu then of course you can fadc the hp shoryu after the 3rd hit and follow up with hp fire hadou

problem with him is that he has low hp, so trading is not a good idea for akuma, even though he deals quite a damage but he gets beaten quite easily if trading happens, and if you fought ryu don't do air fireball too often when he has super as it is suicide and advantage to ryu

hope this help

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 27, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #508

@ shin Ur right I wasn't punishing enough the raging demon is cool but damage scalin hurt me alot but I will continue to be more discret RYU do own Akuma and I 'am having probs with RYU online so I happy to have u to fight

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 27, 2009 at 1:16 p.m. #509

@Cuttyb87
dont worry, once you get the hang of akuma, you'll be giving much Ryus trouble XD. Oh and the FADC fireball for akuma, actually you are suppose to do the light shoryu and go into heavy fireball, it deals more damage that way.

@Shin
are u able to do Dash punch into crHP 100%? I can only do it like 1/3 of the time, so i would only try it when im winning by a lot or just feel like i really need it to win. I usually do Dash punch, crLP, crHP. That i can do like 90% but the downside is i cant get the full shoryu hit if i can at all, i usually just go for the tatsu or ex tatsu.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 27, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. #510

@Cutty
we can play again next time but for the time being i think ryu has higher chance winning against akuma unless akuma player's defense is very high

@lucy
I never saw the amount of damage done since i don't really use him but i do know that if you use hp shoryu then fire hadou only 1 fire hadou will hit while if you do a light shoryu then all 3 fire hadou will hit.

and no i cannot connect cr.hp after f+hp 100% but definitely more than 33% though but i barely use any f+hp :P but i do use alot of cr.mp, cr.hp, srk (best is using hp but i do use lp as i can follow up with cross up or wake up game :P) the problem is its hard to hit opponent with f+hp unless you score and fa or your opponent mess up but i have been learning to do light light then hp shoryuken this is kinda like easy but not too easy combo to do but it does a decent damage and you have less chance of messing up and best part is you can fadc to ultra after that

Posted by cuttyb 87 on August 28, 2009 at 9:38 a.m. #511

@ shin he does cuz eo f the damage he seems to be beating more and thee match ups I have has changed but still adjusting to him he is way different to RYU I pick Akuma cuz I was bored with RYU lol and ur RYU is good so I need to practice against him

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 28, 2009 at 9:43 a.m. #512

@Cutty
Sorry about yesterday, i can't play with you as i have to attend a few things. will try tonight but after i finish up all my house works :P oh and not sure if you know this but after tatsu you can also do a cr.hk

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 28, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #513

@Shin
do you mean doing light light heavy shoryu from nothing or dash punch + light light dp?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 28, 2009 at 11:52 a.m. #514

@Lucy
c.lp / c.lk, c.lp, hp shoryu from nothing (but of course when the first light attack hit) or you can do c.lp, c.hp, shoryuken too and yes you can do dash punch, c.lp, c.lp, shoryu too but not recomended, if you can connect the c.lp from dash punch you might as well do c.hp then hp shoryuken (it deals alot of damage not to mention if you cancel it to super too)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 28, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. #515

Yea thats usually my bnb into ultra finish, since crLK hits low and with the crLP you have the hit confirmation to do the decide to finish off with ur dp or do a mix up.

Heres an good idea if you guys dont use this often, crLK/LP, crLP, crMK (if blocked), and jump for cross up tatsu or start new cross up combo. I tend to do the tatsu if i finished the block string with crMK and start new combo if i did 3 crouching lights. Another interesting one is 3 blocked crouching lights, walk up a bit (pretend of a tick throw, but not close enough) and go for crLK~combo, this only usually works if your oppenent techs your throws though, or just decided to be stupid

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 28, 2009 at 3:04 p.m. #516

Usually i only do 3 lights then cross up cause it is safer for me since many people like to mash up a counter after the second light and its easier to connect from c.lp to c.lp instead of c.lp to c.mk

and yes lucy your idea is nice but don't press c.lk, use c.mp instead, you have extra time to think following up but not sure if its a good idea doing this using pad sometimes ryu does a shoryuken :(

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 28, 2009 at 8:13 p.m. #517

@shin wats up hey man I been using akuma abd I 'm getting the hang of it but my Ryu bug is calling me I bounce around alot now but I will show u

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 28, 2009 at 8:53 p.m. #518

@Shin
if you're talking about the walk up re-attack thing, crMP is slower and doesnt require low block. By crLK~combo you can still do more normals for hit conformation

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 30, 2009 at 9:39 a.m. #519

@Lucy
yes it is slower but most player will block down anyway and after c.mp you still can follow up with normals for hit conformation and also it is a good frame traps as what they call it, and many people doesn't really expect c.mp then toss at least now for the time being

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 30, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. #520

@ shin arnoldo any tips on beating zangeif? that guys is to cheap 4 me lol
and what are u now g2 or g1?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 30, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. #521

@Shin
I guess it will work too, plus it goes farther. I could use both for mixup i guess. Yes most people will block low anyway, but sometimes you're lucky enough that they arent :)

@Cutty
Hadoken! Hadoken! Hadoken! Shoryuken! Pretty much just zone him, you want to almost never jump in on him when hes in neutral state. Gaining your super asap is a good idea. You can blast him with a super while he lariots through a hadoken

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 30, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. #522

@ Lucy>Elfend>Lied stay patient and spam okay sounds like a plan can't wait to get on lol Its all about RYU4now on seriously

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 30, 2009 at 6:45 p.m. #523

@Lucy
Not lucky but they are trying to tech a throw that is why they got hit

@cutty
well i only know a cheap way to beat gief but basically you have to go to the end of the screen, then you do hadouken, usually i use light one and then if he didn't move then follow it and if he did spinning lariat to avoid one, you can actually jump in and do a hk or hp. if he jump towards you, you can jump and do hk, then jump back and do a mix up like 1 or 2 fireball when he gets close sometimes he will jump towards you and you can do jump hk, if he press you to the corner you can quickly jump forward and do tatsu, this will take you to the other side and repeat.

if he does a green hand you can punish after you block it but don't get too close it's dangerous and don't just jump in on him as his neutral jump and hp does give you tons of stun

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 30, 2009 at 7:33 p.m. #524

@all u guys ur right I will be cheap like other gief players and make them pay for picking the russian douche bag

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 31, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. #525

oh and try not to quick recover when they knock you down as they will tend to do a quick crossover

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 31, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. #526

yea i find it hard getting away from geif after i take a knockdown, usually one knockdown is enough for them to catch up or even win = =" Just dont hado much when your in ex green hand range

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 31, 2009 at 8:15 p.m. #527

Gief is the only one that gives me probs lol why

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 1, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. #528

hahah, soon chun li and sim and sagat will also give you troubles

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 1, 2009 at 1:38 p.m. #529

I still dont have too much trouble with Sagat, its still rog, dictator and maybe honda >_>

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 1, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #530

hehehe wait till you play this guy, his sagat whopped me 22 in a row, rog is kinda like 1 or 2 in 5

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 1, 2009 at 9:04 p.m. #531

Well i can beat average sagats, my friend Dan is just too much. I think he is Canada's best sagat.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 2, 2009 at 12:54 a.m. #532

@ Shin Sagat can beat me but not in dominant fashion what was his name that beat u shin?

Posted by Yoga-Flamer on September 2, 2009 at 4:14 a.m. #533

@ Shin I happen to own all Sagat with Dhalsim....ahhh I just love playing shotos......yyyyYYYOOOgGGGAAAA

Posted by Malti on September 2, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. #534

Ryu rocks!...Haqq al bieba madonna! u foxx kristu re!

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 2, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. #535

what rank r ya'll i'm a g-1 d?

PSn cuttyb87

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 2, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #536

@Yoga-Flamer
haha, yes the guy mentioned that sim and sagat is pretty much equal and he loves fighting sim but this guy's sagat is a little much more than the rest he is at SG for a while now

@cutty
I'll send you a pm with his username but i have to ask him first if its ok with him. he plays best out of 3 rounds and if you are east coast you should have no connection issue playing with him, he is the only one that can beat another sg rank player with over 95% winning rate

oh and i'm at G2-C :( at 5700+ points

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 2, 2009 at 1:18 p.m. #537

I'amm on the westcoast longbeach california and I know a damn good Sagat player he isn't cheap and he is the best so I looking forward to the pm and btw check out my new vid of me in the cahmpionship I wa all over chun li lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 2, 2009 at 2 p.m. #538

hehe, you weren't playing my ryu's chun li girl lol, anyhow, i'll ask him if its ok too :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 4, 2009 at 1:02 p.m. #539

@Cutty
Hey did you happen to go to Northwest Majors sf4 tourny?

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 4, 2009 at 2:40 p.m. #540

no i didn't

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 5, 2009 at 12:25 p.m. #541

Oh, you should go to the next big one in seattle when there is one if its not too much trouble for you. I wanna go too XD

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 5, 2009 at 3:03 p.m. #542

hahaha, you might get to meet mickey d :P

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 6, 2009 at 9:07 p.m. #543

haha i wish man

Posted by PSN: KenB1988 on September 7, 2009 at 1:50 a.m. #544

eh whos name Ken here i wanna battle u XD hahah Ken vs Ken.... im Ryu user... actually i play all hahaha add me on PSN or on Windows : KenB1988 both PS3 and Windows...
Show me ur skillz all SF players!! brign it i love challenge!

Posted by PSN: KenB1988 on September 7, 2009 at 1:52 a.m. #545

Oh forget.... pm me if u from this site :P...
join this site to! http://www.gamernook.com/
join the little competition in the site :) makes clan so we can fight all peace

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 7, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. #546

mmmm, you can play cutty, i suck so no point in playing me lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 7, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. #547

Yea i saw Mickey D that one time i went before the recent Northwest Majors... he wasnt good at all. But you guys can check out the Videos of the tourny on youtube if you like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWg6O7...

i picked up C.viper a bit now, but to do her big combos (includes cancels in between) are ridiculously difficult, and i just lose a lot with her against better players >.<

Posted by lalo on September 7, 2009 at 4:58 p.m. #548

very god

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 8, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. #549

Lucy, I saw you !! not you but Elfen Lied :D good show, too violent though. how many series are there? i only saw until 14 but couldn't find 15, do you know? and i don't like viper, she is not sexy enough lol

Posted by Drewbee on September 9, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. #550

I like ryu but everytime he is used they are spammers so i just use rose and reflect on them, but other than that he is one of my favorites

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 10, 2009 at 5:01 p.m. #551

@Drewbee
I love to spam fireballs <3 Absorbing fireballs might be more in Rose's favor than reflecting them

@Arnoldo
unfortunately that is all of the anime. The manga is longer though

Posted by Pathetic Ryus on September 12, 2009 at 4:30 a.m. #552

Pussies are attracted to Ryu. Any idiot can win with his easy combos and a retard can combo into his ultra. People that would never win if they used any other character ruin this game. You are a pathetic and im so sick of beating loser Ryu after Ryu.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 12, 2009 at 7:08 p.m. #553

@ Pathetic Ryu dude ...get a life lol
play another game or shut up u must lose alot or something

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 13, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. #554

yea lmao, dont go hating on people, hate the game. So stfu QQ ragequit noob

Posted by PSN: KenB1988 on September 14, 2009 at 2:35 a.m. #555

Pathetic Ryus....

Pussies are attracted to Ryu. Any idiot can win with his easy combos and a retard can combo into his ultra. People that would never win if they used any other character ruin this game. You are a pathetic and im so sick of beating loser Ryu after Ryu.

OHooo is that so then u never fight me dude...
First of all some peopel like me Main ryu since the first series of SF so shut the hack up.
Second!! Some people like me! Does not only use Ryu u baka.
I use all characters cuz it FUn! But when i come serious matches I use Ryu and Sagat and Abel and Guile and Gouken and Sakura and SetH! LOLZ

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 14, 2009 at 10:01 a.m. #556

@PSN:KenB1988 It sounds like u are losing against RYU man
he is the most popular character in the series and alot of people know his tricks so it makes him a bigger target to beat and if u can't then damn u suck.
The game doesn't have all the characters I expected them to and alot of the ones on here suck like Fei long, Guile, e honda and Bison I have yet to play a bomb Bison lol in Hd remix I like those characters and pick them alot so when I play this they absolutely suck. so we pick Ryu and win b/c we are comfortable with him so KenB1988 go to a Ken page and complain and be a little girl over their lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 14, 2009 at 4:33 p.m. #557

@Cutty
I think you meant your comment to Pathetic Ryus, Ken was just quoting what Pathetic Ryus is writing :P

Posted by Cuttb87 on September 14, 2009 at 7:02 p.m. #558

@ Shin Arnoldo yeah ur right I thought it was Ken

@ ken Sorry for the rant

@ Pathetic RYU's u still suck I bet lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 15, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #559

Seems like the few of us have not really added any useful information in the last little while. Pretty much we just make small talk and comment on the haters. So, anyone learn anything knew that they can share? Or a Ryu tactic they would like to discuss?

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 15, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. #560

the shoulder breaker punch light shoryuken into ultra worked lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 16, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. #561

Ryu's most damaging combo without ex meter / ultra
FA lv3, Solar Plexus, c.hp, hp srk - 404 damage

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 16, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. #562

@Cutty
on a crouching opponent?

@Arnoldo
not sure on this, but might FA3, fHP, crMP, crHP, heavy shoryu do more? Anyhow, that is a lot of damage for a combo that requires no bar and ofcourse can be expanded on.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 16, 2009 at 9:24 p.m. #563

i have not tested it yet but when i did the same but i do fa3, f+hp,c.lp,c.hp, hp srk it does less damage than the one without c.lp, so i think it will be the same with c.mp, but i will test it later

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 16, 2009 at 10:14 p.m. #564

@ shin arnoldo u know what try to add cr.mp in their maybe it would add more damage and hit confirm into the cr.hp into SRK for the most damage cuz I seen it in a Diago match and playing wit an arcade stick is hella easier

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 17, 2009 at 9:52 a.m. #565

Did the testing, FA3, f+hp, c.mp,c.hp,hp srk only deals 380 damage.

the reason is that the shoryuken does not hit at the beginning, it hits later on thus the damage is lower and it seems that it can only be done to a specific characters not all. i think daigo did it against blanka but i can't remember and i'm not sure if the shoryuken hits at the very beginning.

regardless i can't seem to do it against ryu, i did it against zangief, sagat, seth.

c.mp, c.hp, hp srk deals 298 damage - this is handy but not that easy to do

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 17, 2009 at 11:21 a.m. #566

Damn so we should stick to the basics i guess

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 17, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #567

Actually i'm able to do solar plexus, c.hp, hp srk more times now along with c.mp, c.hp, hp srk too.

the whole idea is to be able to do damage as much as you can at any given opportunities, if you are not comfy then just do basic combo but my whole idea is i must be able to do any possible combo at any given chance during a real battle match not just in training

Posted by . on September 18, 2009 at 5 a.m. #568

Beat some scrubby sagats in ranked matches on PSN with Dan lol, nothing feels as good as beating scrubs with Dan. And the best thing is that they start crying about being beaten by a joke character, love it.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 18, 2009 at 7:55 a.m. #569

Did you get to do a super taunt as sagat loses?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 19, 2009 at 4:38 p.m. #570

I completely agree with you Arnoldo, when the opportunity is presented, gotta dish out Ryu's crazy damaging combos. It my opponent whiffed/missed an uppercut, i would usually punish with something along the lines of crMP, crHP, hado, cancel into crMP, crLP, shoryu? But sometimes i didnt have time to walk close enough and i would just go with basic HP, shoryu or hado cancel if i have bar.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 20, 2009 at 12:07 a.m. #571

YEa I like my system with combos but its fun to mix things up in matches every so often...

did anyone play stf alpha back in the day I heard their re-releasing it on the PSN soon true or what?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 20, 2009 at 12:16 p.m. #572

I didnt play alpha, and i dont know anything about this news either, sry :/

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 20, 2009 at 7:20 p.m. #573

Hi Lucy, the combo you mention doesn't really do much damage and it uses 2 bars, it deals about 300ish i believe, and you might have the chance of missing the second part after fadc.

if you do c.mp, c.hp, hp srk it deals 298 damage without meter and if you are very confident with f+hp, you can do that and c.hp, hp srk, this deals about 358 damage if i remember correctly and it is without meter but if you are not confident you might just do c.hp, ex tatsu which deals 300 damage and its only 1 bar

sometimes the simpler the better but if you are leading by much more or you are confident of doing it might as well do it, the combo you mention is very fancy and not easy to do but if you can do it and it breaks your opponent spirit, it worth wasting 2 ex bar :D

there are more than just damage done, there are tactical side, including destroying one's spirit :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 20, 2009 at 8:31 p.m. #574

so whats ya'll fav street fighter game

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 21, 2009 at 2:20 a.m. #575

@Arnoldo
No, the crMP, crHP hado cancel, crMP, heavy shoyu does 371, which is like a good 70 more. Or 335 with regular tatsu. Plus it looks fancy on top of that.
About the f+hp, i can still combo into crLP or crMP no prob, just still have trouble with crHP (still 40% or so). But i dont use f+hp or punishing too much, i do when i remember though.
Destroying spirit = GG :)

@Cuttyb87
Ive always like playing KoF since i was a kid. I only got good at Kof XI though before i started playing SF4. But my fav fighting games probably will include: Melty Blood and Arcana Heart. Arcana Heart was probably the first fighting game i ever got good at.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 21, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. #576

@Lucy
Does the second part after fadc always connect? it is character specific i believe, did you try it on Blanka? if you have not can you try it against him and see if it connects please.

going to try to do c.mp,mk,hadou,fadc,c.mp,chp,hp srk tonight

Posted by TheMightyBison on September 21, 2009 at 11:53 a.m. #577

Whoa whoa Cuttyb, you probably haven't played a good Bison because everybody uses Ken, Ryu, or Akuma

I play as Bison and usually don't have a problem against shotos. Sagat is easiest followed by Akuma, Ken, then Ryu but there are a lot inexperienced guys who use them.

If you wanna do some player matches hit me up, I'm not a great Bison but like I said I usually don't have a hard time vs the shotos.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 21, 2009 at 12:24 p.m. #578

Yeah Bison is kinda hard to beat if you don't have much xp against one, his lk cross up is kinda weird and always throws me off.

is sagat considered as shotos? i though his is thai kick boxing, anyway you should play against EmblemLord's sagat then you will know that sagat is not easy to beat using bison, even Mykalogist have problems against his sagat

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 21, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. #579

@Arnoldo
The combo is not character specific and will link 100% (if you have perfect execution, which i dont :P). Im not so sure of the crHP linking in the combo you suggested, maybe that might be character specific. I usually just do a crMP or crMK after hado cancel, its easiest for me.
Yea Sagat is considered a shoto; fireball and uppercut
People have trouble with characters like Bison or Balrog due to lack of experience.

@TheMightyBison
If you find Sagat is ur easiest character to go against, you've never played a "proper" (not even good) Sagat. Too many enexperienced shotos out there that just makes them look easy to beat

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 21, 2009 at 4:32 p.m. #580

@Lucy
I've seen the combo you mention on one of the evo games, after hadou fadc, the c.mp sometimes is too far away to connect with hp srk but i will test tonight.

and yes i have very low xp on rog thus i'm always most likely look like a noob that don't know how to play against them.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 21, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. #581

@mightybison Mykatalogist is my friend on the PSN and I played him today I WAST STUDYING his style with Bison and I notice some things about Bison and I think that the Shotos and Sagat are better than the charge characters

Bison is a mixed character cuz alot of people only hard kick and better players rush and throw MYkat is a mixture of the two but I must say Bison has a defense problem tho he dies fast and takes alot of power to

I know a damn good Sagat HUo juan jia and he is my bro friend he destroyed my Sagat and made me pick RYU and since then I have had lost sleep over alot of sleep but lately I 've been playing my old STreet fighter games so I'm rusty sry for the bad matches lately but I do have a G1 championship I uploaded a while ago check it out lol

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 21, 2009 at 4:43 p.m. #582

@ Shin btw way ur anaylis on E honda on Shoryuken.com was great and I think charge characters need to be charged to be effective and more throws and more trips works for ne so they have to start over and make them more predictable but making them make mistakes

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 21, 2009 at 6 p.m. #583

@Cutty
i think i'm just quoting someone, i really didn't do it lol
i have my own analysis but still i didn't type it in :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 23, 2009 at 1:32 a.m. #584

I think charge characters need to hide their charging while doing other stuff to be most effective; for example: pokes or purposely whiffed moves.

I still think its really too bad i cant play with you guys :/

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 23, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. #585

@Lucy
buy a ps3 :D then we can play with you :D its only $300 now :D

Posted by PSN: KenB1988 on September 24, 2009 at 2:02 a.m. #586

Shin_Arnoldo - Cuttb87

hahaha np Cuttb87 XD
hurrr so bored man... to much people choose shoto cha make me bored shoto cha XD ahahhaha god...
I knw its easy to use but c'mon play with other cha to ... I mean they all cool in their own ways .. just look at Seth wtf hes freaking silver surfer with ying yang sht XD that make me pick him :D ... Dhalsim (correct name?) dude hes so slow and flowing in the air WTF the legs everything its so .. lol
Abel LOlz i luv this cha man... G.I shorts! ahahha seriously emo lol!

Ryu is cool but try other ... u wont regret :D
I hope they add more characters for SF4 like Guy, Adon!, Alex :D, how about Shin bison ahahha,Karin maybe! feels so empty without karin... Ryu+Ken....Sakura+Karin lolz my girl name is Sakura to how awesome :D

TC all peeps

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 24, 2009 at 9:34 a.m. #587

Gyahahahhaa, i don't know why people always think i can only play ryu :P but honestly i also play Fei Long and sometimes Honda or Guile :P Fei is probably my second best character

Ryu is easy to use but hard to master :P

Posted by LickMyHead on September 24, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. #588

And Fuc My twat

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 24, 2009 at 8:45 p.m. #589

@KenB1988
I agree with Arnoldo
we here who main Ryu, doesnt mean we can only play Ryu. My second best is balrog or C.viper (probably hardest character in the game?)

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 25, 2009 at 1:09 a.m. #590

I like all shotos but I try Abel cuz I slam fei long 2

Shin Arnoldo has a great damn fei long and served my Abel lol but RYU is the man so I make sure I master him before I leave I picked and Mastered Sagat the Fagat he was easy RYu is more complexed tho IDK y

BUt we all main RYU on the page right?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 25, 2009 at 2:20 a.m. #591

No one "masters" any character in my opinion :P I think the phrase we should use is "get good at"

I find Sagat so much harder than Ryu... i have more trouble doing Sagat's crLK,crLK,crLP, heavy tiger upper than like Viper's crHP, tkfient, crHP, exseismo blah blah blah.

*raises hand* I MAIN RYU!!! ME ME ME!!! lmao

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 25, 2009 at 8:22 a.m. #592

Sagat's timing is different than ryu's so if you main ryu its kinda hard to do that chain, timing is slightly slower and they both have slightly different style well not slightly but totally different gameplay

i totally need to take a break, i need more xp against non shotos, some scrubs can beat me using rog but got owned when they use shotos, this is bad for my developement

but anyhow i will take a break

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 26, 2009 at 12:09 a.m. #593

usually what happens now if i own someone who is a shoto user with my Ryu, ill just play with my viper. I dont know, but once you understand most matchups and have experience fighting the cast, (only counting good players) the shotos are still the some of the most troublesome

Good games at the arcade 2night, though i got owned >.>

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 2:41 a.m. #594

@ Shin u said take a break u mean stop playing the game or what? cuz that a good deal to come back refreshed and don't burn urself out lol

Posted by Ouch. on September 26, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. #595

Dude...Am I the only guy who thinks that linking the Solar Plexus Strike to that Crouching Hard Punch is, like...

Well, Hard?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 26, 2009 at 8:44 p.m. #596

it is hard, its a 1 frame link afterall. Thats why i usually do light punch into hard punch after plexus. I still try plexus into crHP occasionally though

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 26, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. #597

Its not that hard at all, i have better success rate as of late, but of course it all depends on where you are playing, if you are playing online, there might be a little lag causing your timing is off, offline is different story

the difficult part is if you land it slightly far away then the 2 hits is like pretty quick but if you are close enough then it is kinda easy

best if you try it on training room first to kinda get the timing and even better when you apply it on the real battle cause it is not the same situation

@Cutty
no, i still play the game but maybe less time since i only play max 2 hours a day but that is if i'm lucky :P mostly average just an hour max

i need to fight non shotos, i don't have alot xp against them

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 11:07 p.m. #598

@ Shin arnoldo playing against other players is easy just avoid their strength moves i.e charge characters don't allow them to charge fight them and for others play keep away or or rushdown lol

@ Lucy when u say l.p after solar plex punch is it crouching or standing?

I can link cr.mp into cr.Hp dragon pucn offline online its harder

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 27, 2009 at 2:26 a.m. #599

@Cutty
crLP, its the easiest for me, i got that like 90%. i can do all the other ones too, just not as consistantly. But i still can pull out crMP or crHP at least 50% in offline, i dont try too much online.

I just found something kinda weird:
I was trying to heavy shoryu a guy when he jumped at me and FADC ultra, but for some reason, i just regular hadokened. But i still FADC and landed the full ultra. This probably isnt that applicable considering the hadoken has to be an anti air. I just never seen it so thought id mention it.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 27, 2009 at 8:12 a.m. #600

Yes that can happen, you can also do lp srk (aa), then ex hadou fadc, ultra, this looks super cool but ultra won't hit all however the damage done is the same as lp srk (aa), fadc, ultra.

@Lucy
if you can connect the c.lp after solar plexus, you can do that then c.hp, hp srk, you will deal less damage though but it is only 4 or 8 damage less so worth doing just don't follow with any other after srk cause the damage will be soo much lower unless you can beat the opponent

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 27, 2009 at 10:11 a.m. #601

Yea like Shin said its all about winning forget the cool stuff lol and The stf bar fight is in two weeks i debating whether I should be in it?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 27, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #602

Well as my friends and i always joke about, this game is all about looking cool, who cares about winning, "Im a noob and dont know how to play this game so i only try to win."

Cutty you should go if you have free time, local tournies are always nice. Test out ur Ryu against the community :)

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 28, 2009 at 8:29 a.m. #603

Yup, you never know how far you will get unless you try it :D i made it 3rd place on an online tourney just recently :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 28, 2009 at 4:44 p.m. #604

Yea u know I was leaning towards it and supposedly its famous maybe u should youtubue its street fighter bar fights and Gootecks is hosting it

Posted by macky on September 28, 2009 at 9:46 p.m. #605

can yu search for ryu longest hit count
please
love this game

thanks

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 28, 2009 at 10:10 p.m. #606

@Cutty
Go and win as much as you can bro, you got our support

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 29, 2009 at 8:44 a.m. #607

@macky
longest hit count? well ... it depends on where though, if you are doing it in training room, it is infinity.

in real game it all depends, if you score a stun, your combo can be longer but i know you can get 20 hits +, the most i did was 16 hits but i was going for damage not hits

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 29, 2009 at 6:04 p.m. #608

Wtf, how can Ryu do infinite combo?

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 29, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #609

RYU doesn't have an infinite combo> maybe if u have unlimited super and focus dash cancel alot lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 29, 2009 at 11:48 p.m. #610

my question to ya'll is whats ur favorite ryu super/ultra of all time? I like the Metsu-shoryuken?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 30, 2009 at 8:44 a.m. #611

he can, i did say on training room and its not that easy .. kinda ... well your opponent must be in the corner and you can do c.mp, hadou, fadc, c.mp, hadou, fadc or any variation, sakura can too

@cutty
you mean Shin Shoryuken? i never heard of Metsu shoryuken

i just realized that Chun Li can actually do an over 900+ damage combo and its doable during game play, and here we are having complains so many about ryu this and ryu that

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 30, 2009 at 2:34 p.m. #612

S shin arnoldo Its called mestsu shoryuken cuz he dashes with his elbow out and connenects the goes up the shin shoryuken is the gut punch to the dragon punch

the metsu scarred sagats chest cuz of the evil hadou in his body

@ lucy I tried to put my registration for it but I needed to qualify for another tourney first and I missed i for that deadline so I have to wait for the next 1 lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 30, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #613

Personally i never really like any of Ryus supers anyway. But if im to pick, it gotta be the regular shinku hado.

Dam thats too bad cutty, mebbe next time then.

Any of you interested in playing a specific character of SSF4?
I think Juri looks wicked :)

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 30, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. #614

@cutty
I don't think they ever put that moves into the game but i've been absent for a long time so i might be wrong

@Lucy
Me too, i like Shinku hadou and also the one that has a stun thingie
I will stick with Ryu and if there is Guy, i might use him too

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 30, 2009 at 6:24 p.m. #615

I think Guy is one of them, not sure if he is confirmed or not though.

Posted by Shotohater on September 30, 2009 at 7 p.m. #616

Dudley will own all you spammers...

You are going to have to actually learn how to play instead of banging on your joysticks for miracle uppercuts...

Ryu is cheap. So is Rufus, Balrog, Sagat and Akuma.

And all you noobs know it.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 30, 2009 at 9:40 p.m. #617

i just wanna say... NOOB ALERT!!! :)

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 30, 2009 at 10:55 p.m. #618

@ Shotohater y are u hating on RYU play ur game and leave us shotos alone we play our game and u play urs if u own RYU don't worry about it then bro... or u may lose alot and hate RYU cuz u can't beat us ur the noob bro lol

@ Shin I would like to see Adon from alpha and I would like to see a new brand new character

@ Lucy u know Jui looks like fun to pla cuz her fight style seems really really violent

and I hope they give us RYU fake fireball or is sliding kick lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 30, 2009 at 11:24 p.m. #619

@Cutty
yea lol ive given up trying to say anything back to haters.
And yea i think you're right, maybe she is appealing cause of how violent her style is. When she does her ultra and throws you to downwards, she gets up close to you as says, "Does it feel good?" before she pounds you into the floor ITS TOO AWSOME! lol

THEY SHOULD BUFF RYU, VIPER AND NERF EVERYHING ELSE!!! lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 1, 2009 at 12:54 a.m. #620

@ Lucy man u need a ps3 lol what sstem do u have man? I also want Adon from alpha in the game he is a cross between Vega ( claw) and sagat really good

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 1, 2009 at 12:47 p.m. #621

Not sure about viper but she has to most damaging combo using only 1 ex and it goes almost/over 450 :( but yeah Ryu for the winner !!! lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 1, 2009 at 6:08 p.m. #622

I play via pc. I was going to buy a ps3 when the game first came out considering that i wanted to play the future FFs as well, but didnt think i could afford using the money. Its really cheap to buy sf4 via steam too.

I think Viper needs a faster and more damaging anti air at least :) maybe like one of those flame kicks from her ultra.

NERF BALROG AND SAGAT (free jump ins pl0x) ALL THE WAY!

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 1, 2009 at 11:31 p.m. #623

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqGEBr... here it is

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 1, 2009 at 11:37 p.m. #624

lol kinda thats looks like what Kyo of KoF does; runs up to you with elbow then picks you up and you explode. Just Ryu uppercuts after. Cool stuff

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 2, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. #625

rumor has it that Akuma will be in an S tier next installment so Ryu will be in the A tier still? beacuse they will all have to drop a grade down so maybe Akuma will have all his supers to use or what

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 2, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. #626

Akuma in S tier? :( and yeah why people hate ryu? i have no clue, if there is no Ryu, it is not Street Fighter

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 2, 2009 at 5:16 p.m. #627

The reason y people hate RYU is cuz he is to good lol He has everyway to win he has great offense and defense and has many different play stykes he isn't cheap nor broken he is just awesome lol

But people hate cuz they don't understand... we can hate Balrog right? Honda? Or gief but we don't I just want a good match and hopefully the update can show everyone that it does take skill to play RYU in the right hands he is disgusting

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 3, 2009 at 1:13 p.m. #628

indeed well said :) Why does Akuma need to be S tier, he is already extremely good when played by an exceptional player. Juri should be S tier cause she likes big boobs XD

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 3, 2009 at 2:41 p.m. #629

They need to have more charge characters to the game everyone uses the same functions the game gets old really really fast

The japanese players Said Akuma will be the top tier in the next installment so I'm assuming they know something we don't

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 3, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #630

i guess so, that will be interesting. Aren't there enough charge characters already though? I think they should implement new super/ultra motions like QCB, HCF PPP kind of thing, instead of always QCF,QCF PPP.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 3, 2009 at 7:12 p.m. #631

hopefully they will I don't know... who knows man I just want the best game of all time

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 3, 2009 at 10:08 p.m. #632

Well yea but it wouldnt really matter for me anyway since there wont be a arcade release and they arent sure of a pc release :/ i still really want to play Juri though

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 3, 2009 at 10:14 p.m. #633

Lucy man u need to get a PS3 fast the price dropped alot so maybe u can get it soon or save up ur pennies lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 4, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. #634

my stick is for the xbox360 anyway :/ its ok, Arcade play is way better :)

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 4, 2009 at 5:21 p.m. #635

@ Shin arnoldo my bad for that my bro wanted to play other games instead of watch me play he bothers me alot lol next time ggs

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 4, 2009 at 10:32 p.m. #636

I wanted to do the solarplex punch into ch.lp , then cr. mp cr.mk then shoryuken or hurricane kick
But my probs are now coming from RYU players and Giefs lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 4, 2009 at 11:25 p.m. #637

Im pretty sure you cant link shoryu after those, i think tastu is ok though. Im have more trouble with good Ryu players too now

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 5, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #638

I like this 2x cr.lp light shoryuken fadc ultra

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 5, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #639

I like this 2x cr.lp light shoryuken fadc ultra

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 5, 2009 at 1:59 p.m. #640

its better to use hp srk, since it deals more damage

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 5, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. #641

what are ryu's most damaging combos? and on the site they have alot of combos Akuma and Ken can do so its like RYu needs to be different

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 6, 2009 at 8:44 a.m. #642

@Cutty
646 damage = F+hp, c.hp, hp srk, super, ultra

but i believe there is another one that will deal more damage but it requires to meet certain condition but i have not tested it

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 6, 2009 at 9:55 a.m. #643

I do that often but the ultra hits like 2 times and goes through the person so idk I will try more pokes strings on people

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 6, 2009 at 11:45 a.m. #644

Btw I like the cr.mp more than the cr. mk because I hit confirm better and I still can cancel better into a shoryuken or hadoken any other success stories lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 6, 2009 at 2:02 p.m. #645

Ultra hits 3 times but i gives enough damage to make it to 646.

more poke strings will reduce the damage done.

i believe it is like this :

1st attack damage is at max
2nd is also at max
3rd is 80% of the damage
4th is 70% of the damage
5th is 60% of the damage

and so on, if you do ultra i think it is reduced by 20% but i could be wrong

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 6, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. #646

really u broke it down 4 me lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 6, 2009 at 4:10 p.m. #647

Yes ultra reduced by 20%

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 6, 2009 at 4:13 p.m. #648

Not to mention once the opponent's health are down by 50% there is another reduction on damage :(

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 6, 2009 at 11:19 p.m. #649

how can u guys figure all this stuff out? 10% 20% wow u guys are the pros and I'm the noob

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 7, 2009 at 8:19 a.m. #650

lol, no we are not pros, we are noob just like you :P
you can actually see on the training room or go to that shoryuken.com they have tons of info there.

played with MagmaFisher, his seth is deadly, now i know why seth is not allowed in some tournaments :D

combo is just like akuma's and easy to do too, no ex usage too, how awesome is that :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 7, 2009 at 10:26 a.m. #651

At shoryuken.com they have some topics that we don't discuss here so we need to go their lol but their meduim punch topic

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 7, 2009 at 10:25 p.m. #652

played shin arnoldo today and he really wiped me into shape for anything today lol I blew my focus dash cancel ultra but I can land my ex fireball for some reason need help

and I also seen myself jumping a whole lot IDK y tho? I think its focus what do ya'll think

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 8, 2009 at 8:58 a.m. #653

@cutty
lol, yeah i noticed you jumpin alot but the thing is it was laggier than usual, i can see the screen pausing for a few milisecond :P

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 8, 2009 at 9:22 a.m. #654

yea right why the hell was I so antsy I guess since i rushmore I have to contain my rushdown beast at times lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 8, 2009 at 7:17 p.m. #655

its prob because ur just being impatient.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on October 8, 2009 at 11:52 p.m. #656

Maybe spam fireballs when I looking for more of a reaction from my victims lol so I need to stay focus like I use to do it when I was a g2

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 10, 2009 at 11:38 a.m. #657

yea a lot of the time now i find myself not spamming fireballs properly :/

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 10, 2009 at 9:42 p.m. #658

i was thinking i should buy a fightstick? maybe it would bring my game to a new level

Posted by Violent Lucidity on October 11, 2009 at 10:29 a.m. #659

Ugh.

I hate that F+Fierce >> D+Fierce link. Hate it with a passion. So strict. 1 framers can bite my a$$.

Think I'll stick to F+Fierce >> D+Forward off a Focus attack from now on.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 11, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. #660

My friend let me borrow his fight stick I can link that F+Fierce D+forward dragon punch with ease it is strict timing and now I can pull it off easily.

I like the solar plex punch into cr.lp . cr. mp into dragon punch now its easy with the fight stick I may buy one its makes moves seem easier to do but the learning curve is high

I'm using the madcats tournement edition stick it great

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 11, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #661

joysticks are essential. I dont think learning the joystick is difficult at all, i found learning the controller a pain in the ass lol. Besides man, they are so dam cheap now. At least the original TE is

Posted by Violent Lucidity on October 11, 2009 at 11:57 a.m. #662

Yeah, I have a TE stick myself. Had to put a bat top on it because the ball top made the stick too small for my huge hands to grab onto (lol, innuendo). It's also a bit too loose for my tastes, gonna tighten it up with an LS-32 spring, and shorten the engage with duct tape around the actuator. Not sure about the post-it-note slivers in the microswitches just yet, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Oh, and I still hate that Solar Plexus strike >> Cr.HP link. I don't think you can even plink it.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 11, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. #663

I have the te stick on the 360 but its my friends so I have to give it back soon lol but normally I play at home all the time and so I used the controller alot more but the transition is a little hard but looking forward to learning it

@ Violent Lucidity who's ur main character?

Posted by Violent Lucidity on October 11, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. #664

@cutty

I've been off and on for prolonged bouts of time, but I drift between Chun and Ryu, and I'm just starting to get into Viper. So, I really can't quite decide who to main. I guess it all depends on which one's execution I manage to get down first, and after that which one I like playing better. But all of that will likely go out the window as soon as Super hits the shelf.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 11, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #665

@ violent I hear that I like Adon from alpha and guy also so I don't know man and they are characters that are rumored to be in the game so hopefully I can choose between them cuz I doubt I will stay with RYU lol

Posted by Violent Lucidity on October 12, 2009 at 11:26 a.m. #666

Indeed. There are too many shotos in this game already. I think I'll stick with Viper for now.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 12, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. #667

I don't like the new characters to the game for some reason but more and more i like guile now lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 12, 2009 at 12:30 p.m. #668

@Violent Lucidity
Are you talking about the sanwa ultimate mod?
Ive played Viper a while myself, and gotten decent at it, but the problem is shes so easy to deal with lol. Shes f*cking awesome anyway XD
Ive gotten into Akuma recently lmao.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 12, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. #669

and i'm still stuck with ryu :(, am i too ignorant or am i too loyal?

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 12, 2009 at 3:14 p.m. #670

I like Akuma and RYU so I guess I'm loyal to the point of no return lol but I wonder who will be the new character to choose from

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 13, 2009 at 1:13 a.m. #671

How long do we need to practice before we can go pro? we all here seem to be vwey dedicated to the game?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 13, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. #672

well ... depends on your definition of PRO

if its earning money by playing SF4 then you should practice hard so that you win tourney that has money reward

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 13, 2009 at 11:20 a.m. #673

yea I was leaning towards that version of pro

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 13, 2009 at 10:41 p.m. #674

i would have to say: practice hardcore (not with randoms onlines, but with high skill lvl players IRL), go to every tourny you can to see how you stack up, and have really deep knowledge of the game.

my main chars seem to be: Ryu, Viper, Akuma. I will definitely put some effort into Juri when the time comes :)

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 14, 2009 at 1:42 a.m. #675

I can see all of us making those steps in becoming a street fighter pro cuz we all love the game

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 14, 2009 at 3:39 p.m. #676

Well loving the game isnt enough to be a pro :P But good luck to all of us. I dont plan on going pro, i just wanna play at a high lvl

Posted by perro on October 14, 2009 at 7:20 p.m. #677

hollllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 14, 2009 at 11:27 p.m. #678

@ Lucy at a high level u would get into in a tourney or something? I remembered u winning one and playing online will get u so far in being known for having skill lol

Posted by BEST on October 15, 2009 at 3:15 p.m. #679

Lucy i read ur comment and u seem to be pretty good. gamertag is...................B3stoftheBest........come challenge me i want to know where u stand. I am a Ken user and tear up Ryu all day with my kens pokes. come if u dare.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 15, 2009 at 3:35 p.m. #680

@Best
I hope you are referring to PC version cause that is the only console Lucy have. Go Lucy, make Ryu proud by making ken cry :P spam those counter pokes :D

Posted by Sanwa man on October 15, 2009 at 4:29 p.m. #681

ryus ex shoryuken is weaker than the normal one, you got the numbers wrong i think..

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 15, 2009 at 9:40 p.m. #682

@Best
Right if you play on PC. AND if you have 4+ connection with no lag.
After like 400+ kens on my Ryu account, i have 95+% win rate. So far i have 100% with my Akuma account... something like 50something/50something, FTW

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 15, 2009 at 11:50 p.m. #683

@ Best I think u must have the 360 version cuz I never seen u own the PSN account and if u play Ken what separate u from the rest? Spamming shoryukens or kara throwing

I main RYU and I highly doubt Ken can beat me lol

Posted by BEST on October 16, 2009 at 1:45 a.m. #684

LOL here comes the haters. I am just telling like it is, i beat ryu about 80% of the time. I have a console and its a 360. Im not hating on ryu, he is a top tier and all and one of the best character in the game, but i beat him most of the time. Call my bluff gamertag......B3stoftheBest.........i know that u are trying to defend Ryu and all but u would really have to be skilled to beat me. I dont use shoryukens that much cuz u pay the price if u miss and kara throwing kara haduken is kens game dont hate.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 16, 2009 at 8:20 a.m. #685

@ best I will see how u play then don't worry RYu and Ken always have friendly matches I will use my fight stick I got cuz I'm still learning it

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 16, 2009 at 12:26 p.m. #686

@Sanwa
Ex shoryuken deals less damage then HP shoryuken but when hit both it deals more damage then lp version, not sure about mp version.

@best
I don't like Ken since the beginning of SF :P but i'm a scrub and don't have xbox so you still can't beat me lol jk

Posted by newbie on October 16, 2009 at 2:57 p.m. #687

face it we are all scrubs, thats why we are at the strategy guide page lol durrrr

Posted by BEST on October 16, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. #688

i been playing sf ever since i was a kid. Grew up playing and ejoyed playing it. I always picked Ken cuz alot of people prefer ryu. Ken is my fav and best character. I can beat anyone on any given day. Dont get me wrong i do lose too but have a 72% win ratio on my sf4 for xbox. I have 35,5000 gp right now and going up. Ryu who wants to challenge come ill be waiting. CALL MY BLUFF COME AND SEE GAMERTAG..................B3stoftheBest............

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 16, 2009 at 6:33 p.m. #689

@ best ur a g1-c then thats cool but Ken is a character thats easier to beat then RYU u must play alot of Ryu's or something cuz u got balls coming to a RYu page challenging people keep it up and I'll add u on my x-box live account so I can check out ur vids u put up and see if ur worth playing don't be a bragger and suck thats all I'm saying

in order to have a 72% win ratio u must have been a ragequiter win it was ranked matches cuz the best still has their on the 60's percent and if ur g1-c somethings wrong?
X-box live gamertag: justbringit1987

Posted by BEST on October 16, 2009 at 11:53 p.m. #690

@ CUTTYB87 i never rage quit, just not something i do. I play with dignity and accepts a loss. Losing is going to make u better so if u rage quit ur only going to get weaker. I have a 72% cuz im a above areage player. Its understandable if u dont have urs that high but dont doubt mine. Ken is the best character in the game for me though and i love to play against ryu. Ryu has a advantage cuz of his juggleing ability but always happy to play a skilled ryu player. CALL MY BLUFF GAMERTAG.....................B3stoftheBest..........

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 17, 2009 at 1:11 a.m. #691

@ Ken I already sent u a friend request I won't have the game much longer on the 360 cuz I play on the PS3 I would like to c how good ur Ken is honestly

These are jokes dawg I c u online soon

Posted by BEST on October 17, 2009 at 2:38 a.m. #692

how do u upload ur fights?? just wondering cuz i want to upload them and put em online.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 17, 2009 at 6:25 a.m. #693

@BEST
too bad i wont be able to fight you, since your Ken sounds so damn good ;) maybe ill see you in a tourny someday.
Your vids are uploaded automatically when you get a new CP record.

Just wondering, how much BP do you have?

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 17, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. #694

The PS3 u upload ur vids once u get enough points but its only for ur friends to c them all and not for ur youtube account lol

Posted by BEST on October 17, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. #695

i have about 4,500 bp. I dont want to make it sound like my ken is hella great, but on the other my ken is very good. I have trouble playing a skilled sagat player cuz he does soo much damm damage. When i play a really skilled Ryu it always goes down to the wire, last round and 10% health left. I would play ryu as my main but some character just doesent suit me. I can play ryu like how i play ken, and i bet u cant play ken like ur ryu. I play on a controller for the 360 cuz i dont have a fight stick. I sure want to test out my skillz on the fight stick but in doing just fine on the controller. So to u guys how much different is the controller compare to a fight stick, give me the ups and downs cuz im doing great with the controller. Best out!!

Posted by Cuttyb87 on October 17, 2009 at 5:15 p.m. #696

@ best with the fight stick ur moves and Kara throws and even Kara hadokens are easier to do its better for ur execution and linking combos for the short time I had the fight stick I won alot of g3 championships even tho I'm a g1-c on the PS3 bu I was playing on the figh stick I can focus dash cancel easier..
I think its a better product than the joystick for real thats just me I was made to play at home so I would recommed it to anyone who wants to go pro

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 18, 2009 at 9:04 a.m. #697

too much hate for the main guy that people wanna beat ryu, ryu, ryu and ryu

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 18, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. #698

@ Shin he is the best what can I say lol

If akuma and atleat 100 points of more defense I would pick him more but for now its all about RYU even in stf3 RYU wasn't the best but I can hold my own with him against damn good Chun li's and Ken and even HUgo's

Its all about RYU and when Super Street Fighter comes out the world will see lol

Posted by ItzAce on October 19, 2009 at 2:15 p.m. #699

ryu is for scrubs like all the other shotos

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 19, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #700

How is RYu for scrubs he is technical like hell and if everyone claims he is easy to beat y do we ryu likers get hated on

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 19, 2009 at 4:38 p.m. #701

That means Daigo is a scrub too? and he is the world champ? lol the world got owned by a scrub.

I'm a happy scrub :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 19, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. #702

YEa I will join the clan of the scrubs

Posted by BEST on October 20, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. #703

Ryu is not a scrub. Some people might play him like a scrub but he is not. I smash on ryu easilty lol.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 20, 2009 at 10:21 a.m. #704

People text me messages calling me a ryu scrub I don't even know what a scrub is or even a noob lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 20, 2009 at 2 p.m. #705

I think people are comparing us Daigo in terms f gameplay or something lol if they are we scrubs lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 22, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. #706

Superb combo that work against sagat while he is standing, can be done anywhere on the screen

no ex meter for 368 damage :
jump hp/hk, c.mp, c.mp, c.hp, hk tatsu

against chun li with no ex meter for 367 damage :
f+hp, c.mp, c.mp, c.mk, hk tatsu

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 23, 2009 at 10:16 p.m. #707

@ Shin how do u figure all this stuff out?

and if the Sagat in the corner the ex tats and then ultra would be sweet but damage scaling would hurt alot tho

Posted by Figure on October 24, 2009 at 10:04 p.m. #708

Go in to training mode turn the attack data on then set the opponent to auto block so you will know if your attacks will combo

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 24, 2009 at 10:39 p.m. #709

yes, if in the corner you can do ex tatsu and ultra but i don't think its worth it unless you kill sagat but the thing is ex tatsu will not hit all :P and it is only if you want to save meter or don't have meter :P

Posted by ryu apprentice on October 25, 2009 at 12:57 a.m. #710

Ryu is not about power,nor about being easy, to me he is all about being calm in the heat of battle and picking your moves wisely, he can turn matches around in a blink of an eye, so if you have a calm spirit and a clear head then u can dominate and beat even the toughest opponent. That why I use ryu, ken is just too reckless for me and akuma fights like a demon and we all know that demons fight with no brains. So that's why ryu will always be above the rest. Oh well I guess the answer lies in the heart of battle.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 25, 2009 at 6:32 p.m. #711

Hey guys anyone miss me? :P

my akuma is improving, and along with that my Ryu's execution as well. I dont know why, but i picked up Diablo 2 again = ="
I find online play more and more boring... the arcades are still where its at XD

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 25, 2009 at 9:58 p.m. #712

:( i'm still stuck with ryu, i don't feel like learning others, i barely can play ryu i don't think i should learn others deeply :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 26, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #713

I only like to play Ryu against above avg lvl players, otherswise to f*** with people's minds with akuma is much more fun, and challenging lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 26, 2009 at 8:49 p.m. #714

man I wish Akuma had more defense than he does or I hope RYU gets a new move or have a different ultra

But RYU is the man and I did Play Akuma and Shin Made me go back cuz he wore me out lol

Who do u guys want in the update?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 27, 2009 at 8:14 a.m. #715

Ryu of course LOL

just came out 3rd on 2 tourneys ago and 2nd on last sunday :( by luck gyahahhhaaaaa

Posted by ryu apprentice on October 27, 2009 at 11:14 a.m. #716

Akuma has low defense and hi attack good for aggressive players,if you can string combos you can beat anyone with akuma. Ryu is still my major because since playing 8bit games, to 16bit to playstation to playstation 2 to arcade, I have always stuck with ryu and zangief. Ryu is just natural to me as jago is to killer instinct.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 27, 2009 at 3:01 p.m. #717

@ Ryu apprentce what system do u play on

@ Shin when do u play in this tournaments?

Posted by BEST on October 28, 2009 at 12:18 a.m. #718

Hey guys. Well as u all know i am a very good Ken user. I started to use ryu in g1 and i notice how good i was doing. Ryu is very good at zoning against people. I pretty much use kens rush down to win but i play Ryu differently. I still main Ken and still dominant with 47,000 gp on g1. Trying to learn how to beat diff characters with ryu cuz i know how to beat everyone with ken already. Anyone want to spar hit me up.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 28, 2009 at 2:18 a.m. #719

i still lol @ BEST

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 28, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #720

shoot :( i'm still a scrub using Ryu :(

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 28, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. #721

meh, Ryu ownzor lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on October 29, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. #722

@cuttyb87

am still waiting for my game to hit shore, I have ordered a PC version of it. But I just warm up with third strike. sounds like you wanna take me on. what system do you play on so I can make plans.

I wonder what kind of ultra they will give to Ryu if they decide to change it in SSF4,I really loved the shin shoryuken but that is already given to gouken, maybe they'll give him the denji hadoken, and why wont they give ken his kazyruu reppa (street fighter ex 2 plus) I really loved the move. and if you ask me akuma doesnt need two shun goku satsu moves, maybe the massatsu gou shoryuu will suit in more or even the messatsu gou hadou.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on October 29, 2009 at 12:31 p.m. #723

@ Ryu apprentice I have the game on the ps3 and I like Ryu Denjin Hadoken and I never seen Ken Kazyruu reppa is it on youtube?

And I hope RYU can have the shin shoryuken or the metsu shoryuken from the Alpha series

and if they give him his tasmuki super I hope its fast and has quick recovery on the move.

I want Ryu to be like the RYu from snkvscapcom 2 with his hop kick and his elbow dash

But I like stf3 but Ryu is really hard to play on that game tho lol but I'll get better

Posted by imma scrub on October 29, 2009 at 3:37 p.m. #724

everyone here is a scrub, that's why u are on the ryu strategy guide page. i mean who neads who needs a strategy guide for ryu, pretty sad if u ask me

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 30, 2009 at 12:46 a.m. #725

@Ryu Apprentice

I play PC and would love to spar with you anytime once you receive your game (finally found a pc version user!)

@Imma scrub
i understand that you are a scrub and just want to make scrub comments. I will clearify for you: we dont really look at this strategy guide anymore, we just use this page in a forum like manner (mainly just a few of us) and dicuss stuff about Ryu

Posted by Imma scrub too on October 31, 2009 at 1:40 p.m. #726

There's nothing more to say about Ryu, just spam shoryuken cancel ultra and be happy

Posted by ryu apprentice on October 31, 2009 at 11:26 p.m. #727

@cuttyb87

Ryu isn't so hard to play, in fact I think I have the fastest reaction time with him, love his sliding kick and his options for anti air. His combos are short and deal massive stun damage, as for ken the move is kuzuryu reppa (sorry for the error before) the move is similar to his ultra in SF4, its a combination of half shinpuu jinrai kyaku,two shoryukens, first haf of shoryuu reppa then shinryuu ken (30 hits if you tap the kick button rapidly enough)
Will post a link if I find one.

@lady

Will be glad to spar with you, will let you know when I am set.

Posted by ryu apprentice on October 31, 2009 at 11:49 p.m. #728

@imascrub too

Spamming shoryuken into ultra works only on rookies, I used to be a scrub and I got thrashed I had to adjust, from the looks of it you are not even a rookie. Good luck, I'll advice you get better by playing ppl better than you, trust me you'll quit scrubbing

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 1, 2009 at 2:23 a.m. #729

well, spam shoryukens for frame traps does work really well though.

Since when am i called "lady"?

Posted by ryu apprentice on November 1, 2009 at 8:31 a.m. #730

Sorry lucy, I mean no disrespect

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 1, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #731

Wow wtf about the hate we play ryu differently I like zone and rush but I will work on my anti air game my footsie game has gotten a lot better and hopefully I will go to evo

Posted by Megatonbeef on November 2, 2009 at 1:44 a.m. #732

I want Ryu to gain the sliding kick (Joudan Sokutou Geri) He had in 3s. It was an amazing punish move and the ex version wall bounced for easy set ups. If they really do plan to improve all the characters Ryu deserves this move back.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on November 3, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. #733

@megatonbeef

I agree with you. he really needs that move. but even without it he can skill do well.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 3, 2009 at 12:50 p.m. #734

I want his hop kick back it was cook for pressuring ur opponents and it can be a guard break for those focus attacks but the sliding kick belongs to Gouken tho right?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 3, 2009 at 6:35 p.m. #735

hey, to raise some discussion again, do you guys know of any option select for Ryu? It is new to me and i have yet to learn them. If you guys know some that work on certain chars, plz share ^^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 4, 2009 at 8:46 a.m. #736

Capcom wants to give the rest of the cast more tools for countering Dragon Punch/Tiger Uppercut attacks. :( i'm so sad :(

regarding option select, the one with lp srk works against bison. it will hit against ex headstomp and yes you can follow up with ultra.
it will trade with psycho crusher or ex, not sure about scissors kick though

it will also beat ken's ultra i believe

another one is against rufus, you will lose to ex messiah but damage done to you is like only 10 damage or something since you fall and his ex only hit once.

using tatsu will beat akuma's back teleport
using ex tatsu will beat viper's ex that ground hitting thing

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 4, 2009 at 12:11 p.m. #737

@ lucy what the hizzle is options select as far as moves or what

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 4, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. #738

@Shin Arnoldo
seems like you understand a fair amount... mind teaching how to do option selects? Too lazy to look into the SRK forums...

@Cutty
Option select is when you input multiple actions in a situation and allows the game system to select the best option available to you depending on your opponents reaction. Therefore, you wont be doing as much guessing and the outcome would probably be in your favor if your option select worked. Its a very advanced and useful tool against certain matchups.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 4, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. #739

well i did look in SRK forums and found this video to clear up what is option select and what it does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdNDX...

check it out!

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 5, 2009 at 10:55 a.m. #740

I just know about it but i never really uses it

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 5, 2009 at 11:08 a.m. #741

I didn't know about it but I use it sometimes for the chip damage win lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 5, 2009 at 7:15 p.m. #742

Well i tried it against this decent bison yesterday, and it work because he actuallt did try to ex devils reverse away, so i caught him with a light shoryu and ofcourse METSU!!! lol but im still playing around with it to get familiar with it.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 6, 2009 at 1:01 p.m. #743

Their is a picture on iplaywinner.com and shoryuken.com where ryu is doing the shin shoryuken the greatest ultra ever and it might be the metsu shoryuken but who Knows

But the Denjin Hadoukken is still my super art in stf3 but Could it work in stf4?

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 7, 2009 at 2:19 a.m. #744

@Lucy I remember when u said that the arcade is where its at... ad u couldn't been more right lol I suck with the fight sticks but man I seen some players taht were awesome it made me want to step up my sparring sessions up to the highest and try to dominate all who opposes me

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on November 7, 2009 at 10:05 a.m. #745

@cuttyb87

shin shoryuken? I doubt it, I dont think that capcom will like to repeat the move since they have already given it to Gouken, though they may modify it a bit (similar to his street fighter alpha 3 version). but am glad that Ryu is getting back to his roots GIVING HIS OPPONENT A JAW FULL OF SHORYUKEN!!

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 7, 2009 at 11:09 a.m. #746

@Cutty
yea its a whole different experience. Not to brag or anything, but theres really only like 2-5% of the entire online population that are good. Its not like my win rate is 95%, but even when i win against some people i just know they were good. At the arcade, when u get to know the regulars, everyone is good and i have to step up too for a chance to win. If seen on video, my play style at home and at the arcade are completely different. Its just the invironment :)

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 7, 2009 at 1:53 p.m. #747

@ Lucy yea its the people watching u play and u know what ur trying to do and u have other people thinking about it and talking about it lol so its u and the guy ur facing so I loved it and I lost alot but I got 1 win lol I beat this guy's Abel who had a win streak of 8 I think

Posted by BEST on November 7, 2009 at 9:48 p.m. #748

hey i need help. I am about to get the hori ex2 fight stick, so lend me what u guys think about that stick. should i get it or not help.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 7, 2009 at 11:28 p.m. #749

@Cutty
Yea, thats why i said online is a joke :P
placed top 16 in my tourny, thought id at least make top 8 :(

@BEST
its cheap, and it isnt bad, isnt great. That is all.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 8, 2009 at 2:07 a.m. #750

@ best it depends on how u set ur fingers u can youtube the reviews for that particualr fight stick and see what they say

@ Lucy man online is cool and convienent but the arcade is where its at lol I;m getting ready for evo2010 c ya their

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 8, 2009 at 3:01 p.m. #751

thats cool, get hyped :)
but i wont be attending evo, cant afford the air ticket :/

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 9, 2009 at 12:10 a.m. #752

@ Lucy u live in the Uk right?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 9, 2009 at 2:45 a.m. #753

no i actually live in Canada. How did u get the idea i live in the UK? O_o

Im RElearning how to play Ryu, gota solidify the basics again:
1. crMK, hado
2. Shoryuken!

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 9, 2009 at 8:40 a.m. #754

@Lucy my bad idk i gues i thought wrong

he is simple to re-learn just get ur pokes back and and everything will come

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 9, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. #755

@Lucy
That is why you should switch to other characters :D
i have always use ryu and i still need to learn how to do ultra lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 9, 2009 at 4:11 p.m. #756

yea, i mean, my combos are still on spot, i just need to learn my pokes better and how to apply mental pressure. My friend said i lack pokes and strategy. He says i have to tell my opponent "no option is completely safe, take your guess" through my pressure game. Also gotta quicken my reaction time for those Metsus to punish hado/tigershot (not on anticipation). Also speed up doing the crouching shoryu motion, to uppercut every jump in and some of those annoying cross-ups/mixups.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 9, 2009 at 11:52 p.m. #757

I like to buffer the motion to do my ultra on my option selects and like to cross up and tick throw or I will wait to after I sweep someone to throw them again lol

Posted by TM on November 10, 2009 at 3:13 a.m. #758

Ryu needs to be nerfed, along with Sagat, I hope in the next installment they achieve this! He has no weaknesess which is foolish.

Posted by TM on November 10, 2009 at 3:20 a.m. #759

For anyones having problems with Ryu's use Dhalsim 95% of ryu users don't have a clue on how to fight Dhalsim. I've racked up stacks and countless of wins with my Sim.

Ryu doesn't have any weaknesses so you have to use the keep away game to FRUSTRATE your opponent and exploit there OWN careless mistakes, its very satifying when they stop playing all together in the middle of a match and let you win LOL

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 10, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. #760

@TM
obviously you don't know ryu that well, he has quite alot of weaknesses, if he doesn't have one means that your 95% win rate will be 95% losing rate.

and if you are playing online, when they stop playing, it doesn't mean that they give up, they do have real life unlike some

just because too much scrubby ryu players like me doesn't mean that you should hate the character, if you can't stand it then just play other games and stop whinning

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 10, 2009 at 10:49 a.m. #761

@ Tm Dhalism is for scrubs cuz he doesn't fight ay all ryu has many more ways to fight then playing a good game of keep away lol RYU is for people that likes to fight and how can u play dhalism and call us RYu players scrubs?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on November 10, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. #762

I have a question for Ryu users

who is the baddest and toughest boss you ever faced in street fighter?

is it:

Bison

Akuma

Seth

or

Gill?

Personally Gill gives me the creeps, he is the only boss that I am never confident to face. I wish they would include him in Super Street Fighter IV, Imagine how cool it will be to have four boss characters in one game! wicked.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 10, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. #763

Well it all depends on which Street Fighter you play in and what difficulty it was set on.

The hardest one in my opinion was Akuma (Shin Akuma) at one of the street fighter but i don't know which series, it is like zero kinda art work but not the first zero and also the first akuma that appears.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on November 10, 2009 at 1:32 p.m. #764

Oh well I guess Shin Akuma really throws a beatdown, I play SF3 third strike, thats why gill is always handing my ass to me. his reach is too good,not to mention ressurection ability (as if beating him already isnt had enough). Difficulty set to maximum. Did you play street fighter ex2 plus, the White Bison (Shin Bison) really tough to fight with unlimited super bar, powered up psycho canon and psycho break smasher! These Bosses make playing street fighter worthwhile when you are not pounding someone else.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 10, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. #765

No i do not play them thus i do not know how hard it is. regarding ressurection ability, you can actually hit Gil and it will stop him from gaining full health bar

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 10, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. #766

Street fighter 2 with Shin Akuma when kills Bison and fights u he is the hardest gill isn't to much of a problem for me but Akuma is And in Ex Bison was a pain lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 10, 2009 at 3:36 p.m. #767

@Ryu_Apprentice
dont really know, never played much of arcade mode. Plus i didnt use Ryu in other series (only played SF2 other than SF4)

@Cutty
I disagree that dhalsim is for scrubs. He is a solid, difficult character to use (hes not as easy as he seems).

@TM
Ryu does have weaknesses, if you win as much as you claim, then that means you must of found them therefore you are contradicting yourself. I dont have too much trouble with Dhalsims, just sometimes when im not focused, i tend to do stupid jump ins. To be honest, i need to learn the dhalsim matchup better, i was beaten by a dhalsim @ the tournament i went to last saturday... i got pretty angry = ="

I think as long as Ryu takes a minor lead, Ryu can play a better against a sim. Sometimes, you just really have to aim for those time overs. I out fireball sims, i can shoryu/and normal when you tele to me. How are you gonna get in on me?

Posted by Figo Chen on November 10, 2009 at 3:55 p.m. #768

Does any guy know how to use shroyuken to counter cross up when waiting up?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 10, 2009 at 3:58 p.m. #769

@Lucy
Sim has sometricks to get in, fireball wars will result in sim's favour if sim's users know how to utilize it. some tricks is they do lp fireball from far distance and if ryu don't do anything they will IAT to the opposite site, thus resulting ryu to a not blocking position while the fireball is attacking from the back, his IAT will give him the chance to do an air attack, the timing is about at the same time.

Ryu's jumpin lost to sim's b+hk or b+mp unless sim messes up the timing.

but if you can get close to sim or put him in the corner, he is basically much easier to deal with.

sim to can bait a jumpin using his lp fireball then he can do ultra or super or both when you make a jumpin a little late

Posted by BEST on November 10, 2009 at 11:29 p.m. #770

check this out. If u beat someone in a ugly way, how would u consider that. I mean ur playing someone with very good skillz and u win in a ugly way. They commented and said the match was BORING and they didnt want to play for realz. I said a win is a win it doesent matter how u do it as long as u win. So how do u guys see it.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 11, 2009 at 12:37 a.m. #771

@ Chen I dont like wake shoryukens unless they are far away and trying to do drop in front thrn I will take the trade and ultra or ex fireball but I like to either dash back or forward or light hurricane kick my way out of bad situations

@ Lucy ur right a character isn't cheap just the player who uses them I beat sims with ease but I just hate keep away characters lol I like to fight

@ best I win is a win i guess but I put little side notes a give out a rematch because I hate winning by uck or some weird thing but sometimes I win by the lag lol

Posted by TM on November 11, 2009 at 3:18 a.m. #772

LOL None of you actually read my comment properly, don't wish to offend anyone I was just being honest.
I'll explain a bit better...

Ryu as in the character itself doesn't HAVE any weaknesses, I mean if there are any me and three quaters of the SF4 community don't know about it :)

The weakness comes from the actually players stupidity, predictability and thier OWN mistakes made out of frustration i.e constantly jumping in and taking a H BK in the ass...Its got NOTHING to do with Ryu.

Posted by TM on November 11, 2009 at 3:26 a.m. #773

Naahh thats where your wrong CuttyB, A scrub can't use Dhalsim hoping to get wins, with his poor health, slow speed and horrible match ups, you HAVE to have skill to win frequently, plus Dhalsims combos ALL have strict timing and need expert execution so hes not a button mashing character!

The fighters scrubs and amatuers use the most are Sagat, ryu and ken.

I'm willing to play anyone if you want to practice against Dhalsim my PSN name is TyphooMantis ;)

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 11, 2009 at 8:58 a.m. #774

@BEST
totally agree with you unless it is super laggy like slow mo or some pauses in the game, they can whine all they want, lost is a lost you play fair and square, boring it maybe, but its part of your game and tricks

@TM
now you explain it better that i can understand, i just can't stand some haters complaining about ryu this and that. most people complain about ryu cause they jumpin on him too much, just like against sim many ryu players jumpin like there is no tomorrow knowing that sim has that B+HK which is lethal. playing against good sim is hard to get a win with ryu, cause its hard to get near. and TM are you at east coast or west? i'm a scrub but i really need sim xp matchup so you might be able to teach me some tricks

Posted by BEST on November 11, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. #775

@TM
yo tm ur right, i agree with u that sim needs to be skilled to win. Actually he needs to be really skilled to win cuz i smash on him all day. About Ryu that u said dont have a weakness, where in the world are u at the guy has plenty of weaknesses. Ill tell u one big secret, He is always looking to pull off his ultra and everytime i play him i see it coming almost every single time lol. Now i gotten to 62,000 gp and on my way to SG mode

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 11, 2009 at 1:38 p.m. #776

@Chen
If the position is right, and your timing is perfect, you can crouching shoryuken (will auto correct) most cross-ups. I am working on this too.

@TM
Yes Dhalsim needs skill (i dont really think his combos need strict timing, not that he needs a lot of them). A good Ryu shouldnt have much trouble with Dhalsim, thats for sure. Dhalsim generally will throw if he is at a neutral position infront of a neutral opponent to either tech/or throw to regain distance. Here is where the frame traps come into play

@BEST
Ryus should land ultra, no doubt about it. Easy to get a setup, why not? And yes, a win is a win, doesnt matter if its boring or not. But in casuals, I tend to let go a bit and have fun. Fun and laughs with friends makes the game more enjoyable.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 11, 2009 at 3:37 p.m. #777

If landing a ultra is boring then stop jumping in street fighter its is a game of controlling the floor.

@TM we good no diss we cool but I was thinking that u were saying all RYU players suck which is super wrong lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 11, 2009 at 3:48 p.m. #778

If they get bored because its easy to land an ultra, have they ever think about rufus, balrog, chun li? rog can connect to ultra after headbutt and it can start with dash punch, to c.lp or c.lk

rufus has many more easier setup to connect to ultra

chun li can connect her ultra after a jumpin attack or even after lp attack (yes just regular attack) and i don't hear people complain about it

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 11, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #779

We get to much complliants about RYU and their some many other issues in the game to worry about it goes to show us RYU players that we are beating alot of scrubs lol

Posted by HadouKenny on November 12, 2009 at 1:03 a.m. #780

I did this pretty simple combo with Ryu, it takes out about half the life bar, depending on who it is. It only works in the corner.
Jumping Hard Kick > Crouching Medium Kick > EX Tatsumakii Senpu Kyaku (EX Hurricane Kick) > EX Hadouken (Shakunetsu) (EX Fireball) > Metsu Hadouken (Ultra Fireball)
15 hits.
-Everything in brackets is just an alternative name.
-Not all of the Metsu Hadouken hits.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 12, 2009 at 8:58 a.m. #781

@HadouKenny
That combo will work on all, you might change the crouching medium kick to crouching high punch for more damage, and there is no point besides looking cool to follow up the ex tatsu with ex hadouken then ultra as ultra will not hit all and if you skip the ex hadou and go straight to ultra the damage done will be the same and simpler also you save 1 ex meter and there are many other combos that works on any position that will take more than half the life bar

some combo deals over 400 damage without any ex (character specific) one deals over 600 on any characters and doesn't need to be in the corner

on a certain situation you can deals almost 700 damage 698 i think

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 12, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. #782

@Hadoukenny my favorite attack that apply pressure is cross-up kick cr. lp cr.lp. cr mp. and either shoryuken or fireball but if I ex fireball in the corner I go into ultra takes alot of damage and stun

and my new combo am working on is the solarplex punch into 2x cr.lp mp shoryuken its awesome it put alot of preesure on ur opponent making them make mistakes

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 12, 2009 at 3:28 p.m. #783

I need to learn how to portect the air alot better on people who are in front of me I think thats probably the worst part of my game now any tips for anti attacks and how I can improve on it?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 12, 2009 at 4:01 p.m. #784

@cutty
Spam those srk lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 12, 2009 at 7:58 p.m. #785

@Hadoukenny
probably a good idea to get that ultra with a regular, less flashy setup for most hits and saving meter (really important for Ryu). Damage probably be about the same too

@Cutty
Me too me too, i have trouble uppercutting every opportunity i get. Well some ways are:
neutral jump normal; best options are MP(fastest)HK(stronges
or
crouching dragon (ryu).... hidden SHORYUUUUUUUUKEN! lol as i was saying to Chen before, u hit crossups as well.

Still not 100% with my crouching srk motions, sometimes i stand up in the middle and trade (which i get to land ultra but thats not what im trying to do) or get hit = ="

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 12, 2009 at 8:45 p.m. #786

Another Ryu ultra setup without any ex meters on Balrog and Sagat, also work against rufus but didn't record it, haven't tested on others
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZxMpE...

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 12, 2009 at 11:02 p.m. #787

hey thats cool stuff! i never seen that XD

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 12, 2009 at 11:03 p.m. #788

@ shin arnoldo u have a fight stick? and if u do then witch one do u have

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 12, 2009 at 11:32 p.m. #789

@Cutty
Though u didnt ask me, thought id give my opinion :P
Im gonna put them into a categories by price:

Cheap: Hori EX2 (worth its price imo), Madcatz SE
Moderate: Madcatz SE with full upgrade, Madcatz TE, Hori Real Arcade Pro; HRAP
Expensive: Some newer models of HRAPs

My opinion:
The cheaper sticks all work well for their price, prefer the Hori EX2 over the Madcatz SE. I have the Madcatz TE stick, but i didnt like it as much as i hoped. Its a bit too big/heavy but it works great. Ive tried the HRAP EX or Ex2 dont remember, and i liked the feel of the stick and buttons more than the TE. Most noticeably, the HRAP buttons were "softer". Dont really know much of the new HRAP models, only seen screenshots.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 13, 2009 at 1:28 a.m. #790

@ Lucy the only stick I play with is the tournament edition fight stick by madcatz and I like it for charge characters alot more than qcf people but I can focus attack dash cancel with anyone alot better lol I'am thinking about playing in a tournament to see if I got better

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 13, 2009 at 8:22 a.m. #791

@cutty
no, i'm stuck with standard dual shock pad :(

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 13, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. #792

forgot to post this one too :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy3TpJ...
works on sagat great damage, 500+ without ex meter with full ultra :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 13, 2009 at 5:41 p.m. #793

@Cutty
I think doing anything on stick is easier and more precise in general. The reason i listed out all the models because of small detail differences, not actual like its a while different thing. Its all approximately the same setup.

Posted by cittyb87 on November 13, 2009 at 6:43 p.m. #794

I just seen something odd while I was playing in a online match against C.Viper the person attempted to do the crossover kick fire kick thingy and I fire a hadouken and they cancel each other out allowing me to go fpr the grab and throw for the win lol
How the hell did that happen?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 13, 2009 at 9:39 p.m. #795

well the flame on viper's kick counts as a projectile, but the hadoken shouldnt cancel it out.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 14, 2009 at 12:03 a.m. #796

for some reason it did and me and c viper both paused and I went for the grab and I won but wow ya know lol

anyway I played shin arnoldo today and he has the greatest Ryu I 've seen I'am studying his every combo so i can use them against him but my hands aren't as fast as his lol

man I blew alot of the combos I tried and he made me suffer big time I loved every minute of it he is the next Diago seriously he is super legit need

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 14, 2009 at 9:26 a.m. #797

actually its vipers fire kick that cancels your hadouken, it didn't hit you because i think he didn't get his cross over right and cutty i just got lucky, i'm not great at all, i'm till in g2-c :(

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 14, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. #798

I still think GP means nothing, BP gives a better estimate skill level.

@Shin_Arnoldo
do you got any tips on how to improve my ground game? Even when i beat other Ryus, i still feel like i was outpoked

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 14, 2009 at 4:58 p.m. #799

yea shin arnoldo evaluate me? what area should I should work on?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 15, 2009 at 8:56 a.m. #800

..... why do you guys asked me? i'm not good at all? :O

@lucy
i am always outpoked, so .... lets train together? lol
it doesn't matter if you are outpoked as long as you outlast your opponent right? my ground game is horrible

@cutty
i should be the one asking you for advice lol, remember you are the one that tought me not to panic :D if there is something to say which area you should be working on, i guess you could use some combos that deals more damage so that you have more option of punishing

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 15, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. #801

@ shin arnoldo ur two modest lol next time we play it will be on youtube lol but I tried to do ur combos in the match but I forgot how to set-up them and I last my cool trying to do so but I have been practicing them so whenever we can spar cool

And I notice Ryu doesn't have a strong mix-up game its average he is probably the most balanced character and solid all around and to be the best u have to be able to deal out punishment with him and I'am learning it since I last fought u

only thing I can say to u shin is that u may need to be more confident lol dude maybe I'm predictable but ur RYU is high level seriously

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 15, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. #802

@Lucy the way I like to poke is with the cr. lk on wake up its safe but I need a got to wake up attack or just dash back

Posted by BEST on November 15, 2009 at 11:21 a.m. #803

@SHIN
ill play u with my Ken. I have a xbox 360 and my gamertag is.................B3stoftheBest...........i have a pretty good Ken.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 15, 2009 at 2:54 p.m. #804

crLK on wakeup isnt necesarily safe. It does do crLK if i option select tech throw though.
I just seriously need to improve my footies. I know the max range of my crMK and sweep, but i feel like i dont hit with them enough :/
My anti airs shoryus are getting a bit better though, and tends to trade less now too.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 15, 2009 at 6:33 p.m. #805

@Best
I'm not good at all :( and i don't have xbox, sorry

@lucy
your c.mk or c.hk may hit if your opponent whiff a c.mk and c.hk as their hit box is extended dunno how to say it perfectly

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 15, 2009 at 9:50 p.m. #806

ic ic. I should look for those situations more then. thx :)

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 15, 2009 at 11:27 p.m. #807

@ Lucy then whats a good move to use on a wake up outside of dashing bakwards?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 16, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. #808

@cutty
Block?

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 16, 2009 at 10:55 a.m. #809

@ Shin lol yea that works but for a nice surprise do a light hurrican kick that works also

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 16, 2009 at 12:36 p.m. #810

@Lucy u know whats good walking back and forth before u go in o a cr.mk it thorws people off and its good for mind games which RYu bas his offense on anyway

@ Shin arnoldo I think ur Diago lol ( I think thats how u spell his name

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 16, 2009 at 12:49 p.m. #811

@cutty
it is misspelled, it's Daigo and no i am not him or no where near him :P gyahahahaa, and i'm not good at all.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on November 16, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. #812

hi guys, got my street fighter 4 PC version today, do you know of any controller that is great for the PC. please let me know. very soon I hope to be online (after practice and training) and maybe I'll add spice to the street fighter community online.

@cutty
How ya doing? learned anything about ryu lately

@shin_arnold
Wats up, how are you doing?

@lucy
getting better at the game are you.

guys it will soon be time to hang my third strike gloves and get in with the main deal. (I wish ryu had his sliding kick though) I hope it wont be too hard to transit to SF4

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 16, 2009 at 1:32 p.m. #813

@ RYU apprentice what I like abou RYU on stf3 is that he has the shin shoryuken and what I like about him in four is that he is alot like how he is in 3 by his damaging combos and how easy it is to get his ultra off lol

play lucy and tell us how it went good luck

@ Shin ur are good with RYu but the only thing about ur game is that u play it really safe and u don't take chances and maybe that gets u nervous and u may hestitate when u have an opening

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 16, 2009 at 3:11 p.m. #814

@Ryu apprentice
nice :D i wish i can get one for pc too but no luck, i do not want that hop kick back unless it becomes an overhead hahahaha

@cutty
not sure if i play it really safe i get beaten too much gyahahhaa, i'm a slow start :P plus my pad is kinda worn off so sometimes i press the button but nothing comes out :P

but lately my winning rates keeps on going up, close to 70% for all characters and over 75% win rate with ryu :D, aiming for 80% :D and no, i don't play against some newbies but against good players :P

cutty if you want you can try play with s0lid_snake_mgs4 his ryu is solid just like his name :P

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 16, 2009 at 3:43 p.m. #815

@ Shin I played him before like maybe a couple of times I remember his name because I like metal gear solid also lol yea
Shin how do u get beatin? its always good to work on weaknesses in player matches instead of going on championship trying something out and for me I want to deal out as much punishment with RYU as possible and I have to figure out my style and input it in with those combos get it

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 16, 2009 at 4:20 p.m. #816

@cutty
i'm not invincible lol, winning is nice but sometimes i play not to win but to find out somethings that i need, for instance if i got knock down, and my opponent is akuma, he walks towards me and get next to me, as i got up, i try to tech but instead he didn't throw me like many people he did a hp srk, which beat my throw attempt. so same thing happened again now i try lp srk cause i don't want to whiff hp srk, he did hp srk again, so i got hit again, so i tried backdash next time but i still got hit, maybe timing is wrong, so i did it again but still got hit, next i try hp srk and it beats out his :D so i found something but i lost the game, but i did learn something :D so its my win in other words.

for me, i don't mind losing as long as i can learn something

lately i haven't been using ultra as much as before, maybe like once in 2 or 3 matches, should have but i didn't, so when i beat a noob they can't say yeah easy ultra setup bla bla bla.

knowing alot of combos really helped alot, and sometimes you don't have to go through with the biggest damage but sometimes you want to have the tactical advantage with less damage, which with your tactical advantage you can deal more damage. there are a few scenarios but its too long to explain

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 16, 2009 at 5:40 p.m. #817

@ Shin I totally understand what ur talking about hmmm maybe I stressing over the elite players and trying to get like them instead of being myself lol I will log on tonight and domiante in championship matches

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 16, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #818

found another ultra setup on 3 characters, similar to the previous post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPr0Sh...
also found an excellent combo but didn't recorded, will try it again when i have the chance

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 17, 2009 at 12:09 a.m. #819

@ shin gg's man u really opened my eyes to what I needed to work on which the ground game I can dp on jupming opponents now alot more but I have to start winning the game on the ground thanks bro and I noticed that I wasn' landing it then u put the pressure on me for real and I have to play a more controlled game with forcing my opponents to make mistakes like how RYu is suppose to

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 17, 2009 at 7:51 a.m. #820

@cutty
ggs but i just got lucky too many times :P

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 17, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. #821

@ Shin lol my bro played to he was Ken by joystick as dying so i was changing it when i left and my other one was dying to so I am charging them now but my game has changed tho I will stay focussed and keep it on the floor instead of trying to mix-up game cuz ryu doen't really have any lol but Trying to get some resets in tho any advice

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 17, 2009 at 1:07 p.m. #822

I don't think Ryu has any resets ... at least not a useful one, was trying to find one myself but it is conditional so its not something that you can set it up :( at least i'm not aware of it

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 17, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #823

I agree with Arnoldo 100% Knowing damaging combos is important, but keeping solid and staying in tactical advantage is much more important.

@Ryu apprentice
Look forward to playing you, add me up, my tag is LushyLushy :) any xbox360 or ps3 pad/stick works great with pc

If anyone wants to see some high level Ryu mirrors, look up on youtube: Air vs Popojiro

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 17, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. #824

@Cutty
The only reset i can think of the ariel reset with LK and dash cross-under on landing

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 18, 2009 at 12:14 a.m. #825

@ ALL I learned what works for me and should work for me and what works for u should work for its fun to add but not change ur whole style of play I get it now but I will still practice for evo 10

what hurricane kick is good for the cross up? MK or HK

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 18, 2009 at 8:25 a.m. #826

well, it all depends, not really sure what is the differences besides the damage and the number of spins but i feel like mk version spins faster but covers less distance when on the ground

but when i do a cross up i tend to use mk unless if i want to chip damage i use hk

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 18, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. #827

@Cutty
Well i learned what works for me online before tends to not work when i play against good players at the arcade, therefore i actually completely altered my playing style in the last week or so, from the really aggressive, jumpy type to more defensive and tactical

good question Cutty, i never actually thought of it, i just knew there is difference in damage. That being said, i've only been using the HK version.

So can i start my ariel hurricane from different trajectories of my jump if i used different versions of hurricane kick? That could be quite useful thing to know ^^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 18, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. #828

@lucy
yes, you are correct, not only that but it also depends on which character your opponent uses, simple example is if you use ryu and your opponents pick zangief, you don't just go rush him down, its suicide. plus it also has something to do with your opponents style of play

ie, if you are playing against a turtling player you don't just turtle too, you have to rush him but carefully or chip him by spamming hadouken at safe distance

another is if you like to play defensively and you know your opponent barely can cope with a rush attack, you don't just play his stlye, you rush him to death as that is his weakness

the thing is with the tatsu, its hard to find exactly as you have to be at the same height and all before you can do the tatsu to get it accurate result

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 19, 2009 at 12:16 a.m. #829

@ Lucy try going back to the basics in the arcades recently I tried zoning with the cr.mk into hadoken and push ur opponent in the corner they will be frozen lol and do stupid things like wild jump ins and ea a shoryuken and it works well and even online u can domiante with ryu fireball traps and with a good game of footsie's u should do alright^^ and I like throwing the medium hadoken the most cuz its fast and I think the recovery the same on all I think am not sure but I will try it out.

RYU rushdown isn't all that great he really doesn't have a good mix-up game I think he is straight up and down a fighter a mix between Ken and Akuma lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 19, 2009 at 12:32 a.m. #830

@Arnoldo
Yea, i definitely try to play on my opponents' obvious weaknesses and patterns. But people online tend to not be great at anti air, so i wont get hit by a dp everytime i jump, but if i get used to that and try jumping in a lot at the arcade, im gonna be taking lots of shoryus up the ass lol. So i tend to jump less altogether now.

Its important to know the matchup too, like whats punishable, what options you have at what situation. For sure for sure ^^

@Cutty
Yea gotta zone with Ryu, regardless who your opponent is, just depends if they know how to deal with it or not :/ I think in terms of mixup it would be Ryu < Ken < Akuma

One tactic i like to use a lot is the cross up tastumaki, and i mean A LOT! lol but once in a while (prob after i done it 3 or so times) i would jump in at similar distance, and use HP instead. The jump would make you look like you will do a cross up tastu or any cross up hit, but then it doesnt, landing painful combo!
Ive been using ex tastu frame trap more recently too. Only works on players who actually know how to tech you though XD

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 19, 2009 at 8:37 a.m. #831

Lucy yea man thats the spirirt and in canada how is the arcade scene I live in California and people thinks its the mecca of aracdes if u live down the street from the spot I live atleast 20 minutes away from Arcade Infinity and I think 45 minutes away from Denjin Arcade but Aracdes teach u lessons about overly aggressive play which can benefit u in the long run I went back to th basics and started winning matches I was down in and its fun lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 19, 2009 at 1:48 p.m. #832

Cutty you are california? i always tought you are from east coast lol, no wonder we have 4 bars lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 19, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. #833

@ shin yea I live in Long Beach CA whee u live? and do u go to the arcades? if u live in LA area u should check out the scene

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 19, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. #834

I'm in SF and no i do not go to arcades, i wish i can but full time job + family means i barely have time to go to arcades :P

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 19, 2009 at 4:55 p.m. #835

@ Shin their is a norcal stf tourney coming soon u should enter u may win or do really good

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 19, 2009 at 7:39 p.m. #836

ugh, no, i'm scheduled to clean up the house :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 19, 2009 at 8:25 p.m. #837

@Cutty
wow thats pretty close. The arcade scene here is alright, only busy during weekends :/ it takes me at least half an hour to get to the one i go to. There is another one at a mall, which is decent, but i just dont like it there cause it gets too stuffy. but more random people play there

@Arnoldo
Do you have kids? XD

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 20, 2009 at 12:18 a.m. #838

@ Lucy wow its like that well not to brag it only costs 1 quarter to play street fighter 4 in my arcade and its really really good people their and peole have these massive winning streaks of like 20's and up and I only beat 1 person lol
I need to keep practicing on the fight stick tho so I can get better

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 20, 2009 at 7:57 a.m. #839

@lucy
Yes, i have a daughter and second one is on the way, if a girl i might name her Chun Li, if a boy i might name him Ryu

gyahahahahhaahha, i asked for my wife blessing to go to the tourney but no blessing, which means no blessing from her i won't be able to beat someone who just started playing :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 20, 2009 at 11:24 a.m. #840

@ Shin arnoldo tell ur wife she is pretty and then asks her with women u have to butter them up lol but yea name ur duaghter chun li or Karin lol or Eliza lol or Candy to pay homage to STF4 pr name her after Goukens Daughter name

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 20, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #841

@Cutty
25cents?! Thats so cheap! It cost 50 cents here, it WAS one dollar per game when it first came out O_o. Yea i usually have streaks around 10 before people just stop playing, or maybe my friends come and i get raped or the score goes back and forth. Looking back on my life... i grew up on those arcade machines :/ been going there since i was 13 lol

@Arnoldo
Thats so cute, i cant wait to be a dad XD My dad is actually named after Ken. When my family immigrated to Canada, my dad was needing an english name. My big bro, being a big fan of SF2, gave my dad the choices of Ryu or Ken. I guess Ken sounded more normal for my Dad so he picked that one lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 20, 2009 at 7:54 p.m. #842

new discussion what move do u guys want RYu to have on the update i like the hop kick and because its can be used like Ken step in Ken but who knows or the dashing elbow that would go into the shoryuke or just for pressure

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 20, 2009 at 9:52 p.m. #843

I think if Ryu got a fast, forward moving hit, it would imba. He already have the best ground poke in the game. Honestly though, i dont give a crap about any changes with Ryu if there isnt an arcade release, i just want to play Juri :P

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 21, 2009 at 1:24 a.m. #844

Lucy their will be an arcade release cuz in Japan they playin the arcades maybe it won't matter cuz all the elite arcades my get the update and not all the minor ones but still I want something new from RYu I hope its the shin shoryuken or something epic

I will bet money on the aracde version of sst4

Posted by Megatonbeef on November 21, 2009 at 5:25 a.m. #845

The sliding kick from third strike (Joudan Sokutou Geri), would be his best addition. It was an amazing punish move, it would be a huge improvement on his fottsie game and the Ex-version wall bounced to further increase the combo it was done with. If they really do plan to improve all the characters Ryu deserves this move back.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 21, 2009 at 8:22 a.m. #846

I don't know if they will give that move to Ryu back as Deejay has the similar moves where ex will crumple them :( so 4 ex 4 times crumples from a combo?

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 21, 2009 at 2:09 p.m. #847

@ Megatonbeef they will not give him that move cu thats Gouken focus attack but who knows maybe his fake fireball to bait more jumpins and more priority on his shoryukens or maybe a new move who knows... they gave akuma a double hard kick and he never had that so who knows

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 21, 2009 at 8:36 p.m. #848

actually i heard rumor that arcade infinity said there will be an arcade release. The arcade i am at will have it if there is cause they get things pretty soon after release in japan

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 22, 2009 at 1:59 a.m. #849

@ Lucy I o their and the twitter report said it will have it soon and at arcade infinity they use Japanese fights sticks so theirs no ex button u have to use the 3 buttons

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 22, 2009 at 3:31 a.m. #850

I found a new way to get a nice attack off a wake up cr.lk cr.lp cr lk hard shoryuken its cool and its very hit confirmable need to see the stun and damage tho easy to pull off I can do it... sort of lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 22, 2009 at 11:23 p.m. #851

The cabinets at my arcade also have the 6 button layout, and i never use the all punch/all kick buttons on my stick anyway. You can press 2 buttons for an ex move.

that doesnt seem like a good wakeup option because its counterable, throwable, and doesnt have high priority. But if you gonna do that, i recommend crLK, crLP, crLP. CrLP is much easier to cancel into shoryu compared to crLK. I personally use crMP as wakeup pressure because: covers some dash backs, easily cancelable, can link into sweep, good priority, can link HP frame trap if blocked and opponent is option select tech throwing

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 23, 2009 at 12:24 a.m. #852

@ Lucy ur fright adding another hit before shoryuke nis good but now I wanted to know after I get tripped up whats good on my wake -up I like to cr.lk like heck

Posted by Pissed Ryu on November 23, 2009 at 5:44 p.m. #853

Is anyone else confused about the special move damage in this game? Sagat's ex tiger shot does 150 damage while Ryu's ex hadouken only does 100. Not to mention Akuma's 130 damage on ex hado. Bulls**t

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 23, 2009 at 11:25 p.m. #854

@ Pissed RYU lol ur right man and people say us RYU players have the ADvantage lol he needs to be buffed on his priotirty's in the next street fighter honestly and u can lp him out of his ex tastu wtf

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 24, 2009 at 12:53 a.m. #855

Well heres why Ryu's ex does less than sagat/akuma's ex fireball. Ryu's ex fireball recovers faster than a regular hadoken when every other character's ex fireballs has extended recovery time. Also, ryu's ex fireball has more jungling opportunity, a one more little detail is ryu does NOT flash yellow when using it.

Using the ex tastu frame trap is a bit tricky. You have to start it expecting them to jab/tech throw AFTER it starts up. If done at the same time (or jab was sooner), most jabs will go through i think, but shorts/tech throws will get sucked into 200 damage of death. At least im pretty sure about this (just from experience)

Honestly, my opinion is Ryu IS overpowered, no doubt about it. (you guys can disagree with me)

Posted by piruett on November 24, 2009 at 1:46 a.m. #856

@ Lucy.ElfenLied

I don't disagree. Ryu is overpowered because he got everything. He can beat every character easier than others because of his anti air.

I might Ken is better, but harder to play with. His mixups is great.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 24, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. #857

@ Lucy I think he is perfect giving everyone flaws and strengths and how he matches up well with everyone but one thing that bothers me even with the the tastu trap an waking up enemy can jab u out of it trust me I know lol

@ Piruett Ken has more ways of attacking by jump ins his damaging hard Hurricane kick and is faster but sucks at a fireball war even Akuma seems perfect but he has his flaws no defense and low stamina

RYU Is not overpowered he's perfect

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 24, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #858

yea, i get jabbed outa my ex tastu trap occasionally too. Ryu is the most perfect all around character.

A perfect compared to a cast of imperfects, the perfect is obviously overpowered :P

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 25, 2009 at 12:18 a.m. #859

@ lucy yea thats right but he is the only true warrior out of the group of fighters and the game has people set up different ways elite ryu's rarely lose scrubby Ryus lose all the time
is it fair to say that its all about the player

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 25, 2009 at 12:53 a.m. #860

that is true, a dan can beat a ryu. Just depends who's hands the character it is in

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 25, 2009 at 2:55 p.m. #861

All am saying characters have their strength whether it be mind games teleporting or whatever u should stick to the character strenghts and avoid the weakness

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 26, 2009 at 1:29 p.m. #862

Looks like I will be spending my time with Adon and Ryu on the next version of the game lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 26, 2009 at 8:42 p.m. #863

Cant wait to rape some with Juri :) Wont take me much time to learn probably, always been good with fast rushdown characters

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 26, 2009 at 11:24 p.m. #864

@ lucy lol juri she seems like a cross between Cammy and C.Viper to me maybe thats y u may pick her Cuz of viper?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 27, 2009 at 2:06 a.m. #865

probably, and honestly, Juri is pretty hot :P i actually got into playing Cammy for a bit, but she isnt as much fun as Viper

Still would use Ryu though if i wanted to win :)

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 27, 2009 at 9:24 a.m. #866

if Ryu is overpowered then sagat is godly powered :P

Sagats ex tigershot can also juggle, plus you can hit twice in a row when you are far away from your opponent, it has faster speed than ryu's, ryu's recover faster yes, sagat has more speed yes, both can juggle, but ryu has lesser damage and sagat's can be kara-ed so i would say sagat has more advantage then ryu's not to mention sagat's regular tigershot has better recovery. so sagat is more powered than ryu. (if you check the health point comparison, sagat has 100 more than ryu, so 1 sagat's ex deals 15% damage to ryu and ryu can only deal about 9% to sagat)

sagat also has everything to beat out all the cast, he is still the top tier more than ryu.

but of course it is all depends on the players, to me every character can beat any character depending on who is using it, the thing is that some are easier to do and some are much harder to do

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 27, 2009 at 3:41 p.m. #867

@ shin arnoldo ur 100% right lol I would rather fight great RYu's than sorry 1's and Dagat in G1 now is flooded with scrubs and it isn't fun to win chips because no vid uploads lol I seen some improvement into my combos linking and chaining longer combos together and I trying to get better with RYU

BTW how can they beef up everybody and not to expect the same problems from before?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 27, 2009 at 6:41 p.m. #868

Sagat is god tier, so i just assume he is overpowered :P lol

Posted by Hyperbomb on November 27, 2009 at 10:57 p.m. #869

@ All ryu fans u guys have alot of topics about alot of stuff but how can ya'll and me preven cross-ups that lead into wrong side srk's?

I mean if I was swept and someone was trying to get over on me when I do the srk I go the wrong way how long should I wait for the ritght way?

Posted by Lex on November 28, 2009 at 5:50 a.m. #870

Ryu has one main weakness in SFIV, and i personally think it's his super/ultra, they're weaker than any other game and to add to that u get stunned after the ultra for a second.

please let me know what u guys think, thank u ^____^

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 28, 2009 at 8:01 a.m. #871

@ Lex u may be right due to damage scaling u may not be able to pull off a full ultra and super in combos and take the full hit

@ hyperbomb i think u should input the motion to the side u want to srk u should wait or just block but if ur cornered try to dash out of it

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 28, 2009 at 8:24 a.m. #872

@Lucy
oh and Ryu's ex hadou, he did flash yellow

@hyperbomb
there are a few ways some people says, first one is you press the punch button a bit later, second is you do srk motion then before pressing punch you go to blockdown then punch, third is you go forward, down forward, down, down back then punch

personally i think it depends on when the opponent goes to the otherside that is when you press the punch button

@Lex
Ryu's super is much easier to land compare to many others therefore his damage is lower than most to balance the game
his ultra also weak but it can juggle, people think its easy to score an ultra saying that ryu has lots of ways to land ultra which is true but most of it requires ex meters and damage is low. rufus has tons of ways to connect his ultra plus most of them doesn't need fadc and damage is bigger

personally i think ryu's super is very good but his ultra could use a little more damage :P

if you don't know, fei super damage is bigger than ryu's ultra :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 28, 2009 at 5:16 p.m. #873

@hyperbomb
if you see them cross you up, wait a little bit and do a deep crouching shoryu, should get them if you timed it correctly. This can also get Chun's flip kick, all shotos' cross up tastu, as well as some other weird cross ups. Timing does take practice though, cant just spam it.

@Lex
Ryu's super is easily one of the best supers in the game. It can hit/punish/juggle so many situtions, so you cant expect godly dmg output. The metsu hadoken is a solid, useful ultra. Not fanatastic, but definitely a good one. It has many setups, and does fair damage. Being a Ryu user, i would gladly accept a buff to his ultra, but i wouldnt think it's needed.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 29, 2009 at 2:44 a.m. #874

@ Lucy the information givin to hyperbomb is better than mine I thought u had to input the motion to the side u wanted to srk but will my method work its works like 45% of the time lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on November 29, 2009 at 8:02 a.m. #875

do you guys know of any laptop that can comfortably run STF 4 at the highest setting without glitches?

I installed mine and it was too slow (though I managed to pull of a shinkuu hadoken and metsu hadoken in practice, Yeaahh!)

@Cuttyb87

I hope to spar with you one day, you sound like an opponent stronger than me.

@Lucy

How r u doing?

does anyone still play third strike?

in STF 4 can you cancel a hadoken into a super if someone jumps over (like in third strike). I'm itching to play STF 4

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 29, 2009 at 8:12 a.m. #876

@Ryu Apprentice
yes you can cancel hadouken to a super at the few frames beginning and at recovery frame i think

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 29, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. #877

@ Ryu apprentice yea man one day if they release third strike and down-loadable game we can spar if u get the ps3 version and then in STF4 u can throw a regular fireball then throw ur super art or super fireball lol if u throw ur ex fireball FADC into ur Ultra Metsu Hadoken

But I am getting better I started noticing My losses while playing my bro and worked on my execution after my L's then I started picking up my play

@ lucy u have a viper game and I enjoy playing them alot because its a off the wall kind of game I try to spam the Cr.mk into fireball but I usually have to shoryuken them into ultra then its over... But I notice more and more Fei-longs online now Y?

Posted by therapy dog on November 29, 2009 at 1:14 p.m. #878

i just got this game and it seems like most of the combos are ridiculously difficult to time correctly unless you're some kind of weird ass asian that plays fighting games for 23 hours a day. yeah, i could probably put the time and effort into doing it, but why not spend my time doing something more worthwhile instead, like studying for the LSAT or learning how to bend a spoon with my mind?

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 29, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #879

@ therapy dog y don't u return the game if ur not going to put any time into it?

Posted by BEST on December 1, 2009 at 12:13 a.m. #880

u guys seem to be really dedicated to playing a great RYU. I will beat anyone one of u with ur own character. U guys have all these questions and comments on what to do and all. I mean if u guys know so much then go and win a damm tournament. Ur comments dont help but i do know what will help. All u have to do is go on youtube and watch diago play and try to master everything he does. That is the only way to be not good but GREAT with RYU

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 1, 2009 at 12:42 a.m. #881

@ Best What the hell is your problem? If u talk so much and act like u dawg people why don't u go and win a damn tournment?

Posted by Meh... on December 1, 2009 at 2:47 a.m. #882

In championship mode G3 70% of the people play ryu or ken, how lame is that?

Posted by Meh... on December 1, 2009 at 2:49 a.m. #883

Also, one thing I noticed that most of the SF4 players are douches, like mr. BEST here shows us.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 1, 2009 at 6:52 a.m. #884

@Meh
70% ryu or ken? really? well when i played many was sagat, ken, rog, ryu is in the middle maybe about 25-30% of the time, but i haven't touch championship mode for ages :P

@Best
will you consider coming out 4th in 10,000 participants a great achievement?

won tournaments? i'm not that great but i have won some tournaments, even though not major but i have won :P

Posted by Meh... on December 1, 2009 at 7:02 a.m. #885

@Shin
Maybe 70% is little exaggerated, more like 45%-50%, but still. Its insane how much people play Ryu, I watched the leaderboards replay list and from the first 40 players 12 was Ryu. Only 3 Ken...

Posted by Meh... on December 1, 2009 at 7:06 a.m. #886

And from 100 players 37 was ryu.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 1, 2009 at 7:43 a.m. #887

@Meh
was it just recently? or a while back? i think it has to do with some top players, so say if it was mago who won the world championship i think there will be alot more of sagat players, but at least this is what i think

i personally believe that it is easy to play as ryu but it is very hard to master it to a certain minimum degree

Posted by Meh... on December 1, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. #888

@Shin
It was like an week ago. Yeah, people are like sheep :P and now the championship mode has been taken over by an massive herd of sheep!

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 1, 2009 at 7:54 a.m. #889

with no sheperd lol

do you play on console? or just arcade? psn or xbox or pc?

Posted by Meh... on December 1, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. #890

PC, you?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 1, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. #891

i'm at psn only :P you can play with lucy, he has won a tourney at xbox :P

Posted by BEST on December 1, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. #892

like i said i'll beat any one of u aight. gamertag is ...............BestoftheB3st..............come if u want to lose

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 1, 2009 at 8:44 p.m. #893

its not that we don't want to play you or look you down but didn't you say you only have xbox? we don't have one

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 1, 2009 at 11:41 p.m. #894

@ Best I played before when I had the fight stick the game was really laggy so I lose interest your Ken is good and I see your point but... Alot of people has your playstyle with Ken you be aggressive then you get hit alot u turtle up its not that we talking bad about u we normally hit the website up if we found something new out

@ Shin congrats on placing fourth in a tourney I know u improved my jaw stilll hurts lol we need to spar soon cuz I played the Dhalism guy and we had a great match he stole the victory lag spike and a miss shoryuken for the win lol

Posted by Hyperbomb on December 2, 2009 at 12:48 a.m. #895

hello everyone I see that Best polluted your forum with trash of being the best Ken lol y does he do that?
@ cuttyb u said u played him give me ur honest opinion on his skills cuz he is a lil annoying

Posted by Dragon punch hater on December 2, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. #896

F*cking dragon punch interrupts all Roses attacks, damn I hate the dragon punch!

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 2, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. #897

@Dragon punch hater I hate rose's slide and her grab range is ridiculous after any attack dash and grab so their were even
BTW I use to main her back in Alpha she doesn't play the same now BOOOOO

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 2, 2009 at 4:38 p.m. #898

@Dragon punch hater
you should see luffy086, his rose is just ... too hard to beat :P, best rose in French, arguably the best rose player in the world

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 2, 2009 at 11:52 p.m. #899

@Meh...
willing to play as long as good connection :)

@Best
you always come back and go on and on and on...

@Dragon punch hater
since the beginning of sf, gotta hate the DP if you didnt have it lol

Posted by BEST on December 3, 2009 at 12:11 a.m. #900

i start to practice ryu for a bit and i know i can beat all of u with ur own characters. Dont belive me feel free to try best of 5. got 65,000 gp now and going up pretty soon im going to the top. Ill give u guys a really really big tip on how to play good. All u need is to have good reflexis.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 3, 2009 at 1:19 a.m. #901

@ best I seen ur last vid upload on the 360 and do u want to here my honest opinion on it? let me know if u do?

Posted by BEST on December 3, 2009 at 10:56 a.m. #902

@cuttyb87 sometimes i feel like i do and sometimes i dont. Its like after a match if i lose i think about it and could have done something different. Overall my reflexis is pretty good i think.

Posted by arcade on December 3, 2009 at 10:59 a.m. #903

hey does any one think that ryu is going to get his 3rd strike slide kick back. also does any one think he really needs it back.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 3, 2009 at 1:29 p.m. #904

@ Best cool cuz we all need feedback for us to go pro the thing I notice which is good and bad is the turtle thing ur were doing in the middle of the match its cool for baiting but all the time lol but it was a good match

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 3, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. #905

@ Aracde I would think that RYU would get it back or something new they gave Akuma something new and different the double hard kick but we shall see

Posted by Hyperbomb on December 3, 2009 at 3:10 p.m. #906

@ Arcade in TVC RYU has a Hoop kick like in alpha its easy to do its forward and Hardk kick its nice for a surprise attack and hopefuuly it hits overhead or break armor
and RYU had a dashing elbow attack in alpha and that was a good counter attack for most whiff attacks

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 3, 2009 at 4:13 p.m. #907

@Best
Cutty is right, you cant just always keep away and dp when they get to you, even though Ryu does it pretty damn well. Daigo rushdown every chance he gets which is why he is the best Ryu there is

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 4, 2009 at 2:26 a.m. #908

@ Kucy u said u had the PC version of the game? and if u do do u mod any costumes in the game?

Posted by Anyone on December 5, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. #909

Timing on the listed combos is obscenely strict. I'd even say they're entirely unfeasible in a real match.

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 5, 2009 at 11:17 p.m. #910

@anyone what combo u talking bout?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 6, 2009 at 6:49 a.m. #911

....

Posted by Dmitry on December 8, 2009 at 1:20 p.m. #912

на русском бы всё это ))

Posted by BEST on December 8, 2009 at 3:24 p.m. #913

@anyone
how do u guys do against a good skilled Akuma????

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 10, 2009 at 1:30 a.m. #914

I haven't really played a bomb Akuma everyone runs and I fire ball snipe them so I guess not

Posted by lala on December 10, 2009 at 2:12 a.m. #915

I saw a match online with Daigo(Ryu) vs Poongko(Ryu). At one point Daigo was cornered and Poongko was spamming fireball and Daigo fadc, DP, fadc again andhit him with an ultra. I counted and that take about 19 keypress in less than 2 seconds. Mindblowing.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 11, 2009 at 1:13 a.m. #916

@LALA I seen that and I never counted how many key presses but he labs all the time and probably has a legit ansewer for every situation

Posted by Tekkenfb368 on December 11, 2009 at 9:55 a.m. #917

Thanks for this guide. When I get this game, Ryu is gonna be my no 1 choice for compedetive play although I would place him lower than Sagat.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 11, 2009 at 11:37 p.m. #918

@ tekkenfb368 yea man main RYU u will be scrutinze with being called child like names lol

what system do u play on?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 12, 2009 at 10:57 a.m. #919

@ best

Well one thing with akuma is to fight him like you are playing chess, you have to know your opponent because how you play a zoning akuma is different from how you play a rush down akuma. for the zoning akuma you can beat him by getting close and then wait for your opening(there is always one) and the way to get close to him are plenty

1. jump over fireball (if you are away from shoryuken range)
2. block and forward dash.
3. block and light kick hurricane kick.
4. hi jump and hurricane kick ( works on third strike) then grab.

when you get close you can stick out pokes and hit confirming moves or you can dash and grab. when ever someone whiffs a shoryuken dont fail to punish it seriously.

for rush down akuma players that is something else always wanting to beat the crap out of ya. for me I always watch for the attacking pattern ( no matter how good there is a pattern) and find out how to counter (light punch shoryuken)
.

if you are using ryu, try light shoryuken or ex-hurricane kick to get him off you, you can also try ex-hadoken since it kinda pushes your opponent away.

am on yahoo if you want to chat id sexy_ugo_2u

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 12, 2009 at 1:51 p.m. #920

Akuma players do have patterns that u can figure out really soon in the match lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 12, 2009 at 9:18 p.m. #921

Sorry guys but i completely disagree. U cannot figure out GOOD akumas (honestly, ive yet to see ONE), period. There is no "rush down akuma", "zoning akuma". He is one, able to do both at given situations.

Let me give u an example:

1. he knocks u down with a sweep, cause akuma will get a sweep off eventually = ="
2. he jumps at you at what looks like a jump into the front but he ambiguous crossup tastu you, then links sweep.
3. now, you are in the same situation again; you think he'll tastu again, but he just kicks you from the front into combo
4. same situation again! now what? you know he knows how to do both, which will you pick? Dont forget he has plenty more options to choose from, and you are pretty limited being the one getting up

If you ever are able to find a pattern in an akuma, hes not good, that is all.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 12, 2009 at 10:51 p.m. #922

@ Lucy I seen an good Akuma but he is pro but he does alot of weird things like resest that end in his 3 hit fireball after an hard punch he throws people off but online its patterned

Posted by ryu apprentice on December 12, 2009 at 11:08 p.m. #923

What I mean by rushdown akuma is the style of some players that like aggrresive play. Everyone has a pattern that is why if you play someone long enough you get used to their style.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 12, 2009 at 11:31 p.m. #924

akuma's reset is too good...

my best reset (works occasionally):

if i manage to jump in hard kick or focus crumple this what i try to do if i have full super bar, its just tempting XD

1. crMP, HP, light tastu, reset with cr light punch
2. after crLP, jump over and cross up tastu, reset with crMP
3. after crMP, cancel into medium flip-> whiff demon palm
4. super on landing (unescapable)

ive tried it a good handful of times, all hit prob half the time (not counting the ones that i fail at execution), does 75%ish of Sagat's life

Posted by ryu apprentice on December 13, 2009 at 5:25 a.m. #925

Wonderful. Trust me it won't work on me more than twice

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 13, 2009 at 8:43 p.m. #926

o ofcourse i rarely even get a chance to do it, its not like i save my bar to do it. Just saying that is so godly :P

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 14, 2009 at 12:21 a.m. #927

@ Lucy akuma reset game isn't as good as it was in 3s the game doesn't allow juggles like it use to so with being in the game its harder to dash underneath mix up and attack all the shotos now face that problem so maybe Ryu apprentice has a point on that but ur ways of resets are nice but kind of predictable not like a flow chart but as I seen that coming kind of way

Posted by dleegill on December 14, 2009 at 9:20 a.m. #928

Anyone here play on PC, i'd love to play with some Ryu players who can show a thing or two to me.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 14, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #929

resets are generally not too tricky, you can pretty well see it coming. Its just his knockdown vortex setups are.

@dleegill
ill glady play you if you have 4+ connection

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 14, 2009 at 8:31 p.m. #930

if you want to play bomb akuma try
shin-akuma206 at psn

Posted by Jackson on December 14, 2009 at 10:35 p.m. #931

let's get back to ryu. akuma has his own page.

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 15, 2009 at 2:31 a.m. #932

@ jackson what else is their to talk about?

Posted by Michael on December 15, 2009 at 2:50 a.m. #933

I've tried over and over again to do dash mp into crounching lp but it never works for me how do I know when to pull of da lp?

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 15, 2009 at 10:39 a.m. #934

@ michael lol we here on the ryu page had that discussion a couple of times I worked it by only hitting once on the mp punch and crouching it works at a far range but close enough to hit the other guy

and I think I wont ryu to have the fake fireball like in alpha and HD remix that game add a little mix -up to hit game

Posted by dleegill on December 15, 2009 at 12:46 p.m. #935

@ Lucy.ElfenLied, my GFWL tag is davidleegill, you seem quite the experience ryu player, im excited to get destroyed.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 15, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #936

@Michael
dash mp? you mean overhead? if yes, then it will only work when you caught your opponent standing (hitting them when they are standing) then you can connect any 3 frame moves such as c.lp, mp, mk, srk or like what cutty said but i never done the one that cutty said

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 16, 2009 at 1:48 a.m. #937

using fakes for mixup is for viper :P

Posted by TyphooMantis on December 16, 2009 at 3:48 a.m. #938

Cuttyb87, I'll challenge you soon you up for it bro? ;)

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 16, 2009 at 6:32 a.m. #939

Guys I think that I am addicted to Ryu. I played ken and I love his flashy style and recklessness but I am still drawn to ryu, like a magnet. I dont really understand how you guys learn frames and hit frames, I guess there is still much for me to learn.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 16, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. #940

@ Ryu apprentice they show the ryu frames on this website just click on frames

@ typhooMantis yea its okay I need that rematch for the chip u stole from me lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 16, 2009 at 11:08 a.m. #941

@Cuttyb87

do you chat? yahoo or msn? I would really like to chat with ya

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 16, 2009 at 12:16 p.m. #942

@ Ryu apprentice naw I don't have nothing like that man sorry

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 16, 2009 at 2:44 p.m. #943

I wish they will bring back the parry system is ssf4. I can't imagine after all the practice on third strike that I have to go without it. about being addicted to ryu I guess it is because he is the only character that quite have the moves that I loved in Killer Instinct when I was a Jago freak. Oh well that was yesterday. so ppl time for some bragging, what is the maximum hits you have ever scored with ryu? mine is 14hits (third strike) without stun.

@cuttyb87

no problem bro.

RYU-SAMA is the bomb!

Posted by Akil(i love ryu) on December 16, 2009 at 9:51 p.m. #944

ok i need help i can do ryu fadc to ultra from srk.....but im havin a problem eit linkin..like i do crosss over c.lk, c.lp, and the hard punch srk doesnt link right after....any suggestions ..i play wit the halo 3 edition controller and im gettin a fight stick 4 xmas.

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 16, 2009 at 10:12 p.m. #945

@Akil instead of cr.lk cr.lp add another lp punch so u can hit confirm a little I practiced it a little bit but I like cr.lp then standing lp hard shoryuken

Posted by Hyperbomb on December 17, 2009 at 12:20 a.m. #946

I love this page lol has anyone unlock all the icons? and the character symbols if so what u get?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 17, 2009 at 2:48 a.m. #947

@Ryu apprentice
parrys are too overpowered man >_> and btw, when we gonna get some online matches?
And frame date (honestly i never knew wtf it was before this site) you just pickup as you play and get more experienced. You dont necesarily count it, but just by feel, you know the timing of stuff

@Cutty
Hi :D

@Shin
Hi :D

@Akil
i always hated controller, but i all i can say is; practice

@dleegill
ggs today. Sry for using viper most of the time :P if you have questions to improve your play style or just some tips on guile (it seems you want to main guile), feel free to ask me, it wont cost you... much :P jk jk

@Hyperbomb
PC version HAX :) you get some cool chinese words, and animal silhouettes

Posted by olcay on December 17, 2009 at 6:16 a.m. #948

ben ryunun hatasıyım en sevdıgım ıclerınde o....

Posted by dleegill on December 17, 2009 at 7:50 a.m. #949

@Lucy.ElfenLied
Yeah i've liked always guile and ryu more than the others. And i'll definately pay you in monopoly money for tips.

@Hyperbomb
Its being able to have a chicken icon alongside a chicken title that makes it all worth while. You get all kinds of japanese characters that probobly say stuff like "shrimp" and/or "bean curry" and theres more than animals, they also give you the option of representing mythological creatures. Like Geraldo Rivera.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 17, 2009 at 12:34 p.m. #950

why dont we share combos. or should I say create a ryu combo encyclopedia? we can just list the combos from the easy ones to the hard ones and learn from each other.

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 17, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. #951

@ ryu Apprentice some nice combos I like is the cr. mk. fireball. fadc cr.mk shoryuken fadc ultra its flashy tho but its cool

Posted by BEST on December 17, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. #952

Made it to SG...hardly anygames

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 17, 2009 at 3:04 p.m. #953

@Ryu Apprentice

people have combo videos for that. Its too much trouble to write out considering how varient ryu's linking can be. I could if i felt like it :P

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 17, 2009 at 6:50 p.m. #954

@Akil, you have to time it right, so when you press the punch button for the srk the timing has to be the same as from c.lk to c.lp

@Ryu apprentice there are alot of sites that has listed many combos, and which console again do you play on?

@lucy
hi

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 17, 2009 at 11:36 p.m. #955

@ Hyperbomb if u did all those trials for every character u get a special stf4.com symbol I think

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 19, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #956

we don't have no more topics lol I have played alot of characters and seem to have match-up advantages and I notice about RYu is he has normals that can beat alot of people attacks so people call him overpowered in a flawed system?

He is normal in every category lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 19, 2009 at 1:17 p.m. #957

well what can you do, there is no fighting game, MMORPG, RTS that is truly balanced

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 19, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #958

why would anyone on earth think that ryu is overpowered? if you ask me he is just in the middle of all. a bit above average in power, a little slower, his reach is in the middle, his combos are not that much minus the ultra juggles. Is that overpowered? Ryu is just a focused guy that puts strength in all his moves.

if you think he is overpowered then main him as for me he is just perfect for me to master.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 19, 2009 at 9:06 p.m. #959

ok honestly, Ryu's crouching foward is godly, that is all.

The reason he is overpowered is because he doesnt exactly excel in anything, he just has everything above average.

Even though i main Ryu, im not gonna defend him, he is overpowered in my views

Posted by BEST on December 19, 2009 at 10:12 p.m. #960

just came back from one of them tournies and took 7th overall

Posted by t.nall on December 20, 2009 at 12:04 a.m. #961

does ryu medium dp have any use?

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 20, 2009 at 12:05 a.m. #962

@ Best really what tourney

Posted by BEST on December 20, 2009 at 1:01 a.m. #963

@cutty
the one in sacramento at hot shot billards. only 50 people though

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 20, 2009 at 1:43 a.m. #964

@ t.nail I don't really use the medium dp alot lol

@ best thats still good did u buy the stick u wanted or the pad? and who u lose to? and did u know how u lost or was it by accident?

Congrats man

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 20, 2009 at 6:36 a.m. #965

Street Fighter 4 trivia

which fighter is most suitable for the following awards and why....

1. The cheap shot legend:

2. Biggest Sucker:

3. The Vampire of Street Fighter 4:

4. Jester:

5. MVP:

6. All brawl no Brains:

7. Copy cat:

This is just for fun.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on December 20, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. #966

1. Balrog
2. Ken
3. Gen / Akuma
4. Dan
5. Ryu
6. Zangief
7. Ken

LoL

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 20, 2009 at 12:12 p.m. #967

@ Ryu Apprentice what is this a game show

1.Balrog
2. Sakura cuz she follows Dan
3.Blanka cuz he bites u
4. Dan cuz he is funny
5.Ryu cuz he the man
6.Rufus cuz he is funny tied with Dan
7 Seth is a copy cat I would assume because he isn't original

Posted by BEST on December 20, 2009 at 12:13 p.m. #968

i lost to this one guy that uses balrog. It was a good game, we both had one set and it was down to the final round with no hp left and he got me

Posted by BEST on December 20, 2009 at 12:14 p.m. #969

i just stuck with the pad. There was plenty of sticks to use but im more comfortable with just the regular 360 pad

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 20, 2009 at 5:26 p.m. #970

1. The cheap shot legend: Ryu (C'mon sagat beat the guy senseless and what does he get for extending a hand to ryu? a metsu shoryuken!)

2. Biggest Sucker: Sagat (for leaving himself too open everytime and paying for it first by losing an eye to dans father and then a scar from ryu)

3. The Vampire of Street Fighter 4: Vega (He always want to taste blood)

4. Jester: Dan

5. MVP: Ryu of course

6. All brawl no Brains: Balrog

7. Copy cat: Seth

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 20, 2009 at 7:33 p.m. #971

went to tourny yesterday too. Didnt play in it cause i jewed out and did not want to pay 25 bucks = =" Played a lot of casuals though, more than what i coulda got in the tourny :P

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 21, 2009 at 1:20 a.m. #972

@ Lucy u got jewed out lol stop being cheap and pay 25 bucks next time lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 22, 2009 at 12:31 a.m. #973

lol maybe XD

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 22, 2009 at 2:13 a.m. #974

@ Lucy okay I understand u said ryu is overpowered because he is good n all the categories lol but people have to fight him and make him play their game I.E chun li ground game is nice top5 in the game chun li should have the advanatge but its up to the player to make ryu keept it on the ground lol

Another example Akuma has ryu pinned down spamming fireballs Akuma wins this war easily fireballs are good at mid range how do Ryu win?

Answer to pick and choose on what fireball to destroy and begin attacking Akuma before he gets away lol

Posted by Bison_User on December 22, 2009 at 5:04 a.m. #975

Ryu is top-tier for a reason....

However I've found a few good tricks against him....
Defo one of my tougher match-ups though, including Sagat -_-
my worst is Abel........jesus h. christ......

"Time to face the mighty Bisonnn...."

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 22, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. #976

@Bison_User I think about it like this Bison players do two things hard kick alot or try to scissor kick all the the time and wake-up teleport I like Bison he is to normal like Ryu

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 23, 2009 at 1:15 a.m. #977

Ryu is definitely hard match for Bison, no doubt about it.

@Cutty
Ryu can lose if he made the wrong choices, but just in general

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 23, 2009 at 1:39 a.m. #978

@ Lucy yea I like to cr mk. then Hadouken to keep Bison at bay and since he is a jumpy character he floats I pop him in the mouth with a shoryuken and ex stay on him so he has to teleport and try to fight back lol

BTw He is very normal not overpowered lol

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 23, 2009 at 9:05 p.m. #979

Also I think I would consider all the people on this page that hit it up consently are my sparring partners lol u guys are my friends honestly

Posted by TyphooMantis on December 24, 2009 at 4:38 a.m. #980

Hey cuttyb87, GGs, btw what did you mean when you wrote you thought my dhalsim was weak? Just curious

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 24, 2009 at 6:04 a.m. #981

I mean as far as damage he deals out he is weak so u have to hit me alot more to win but u know what ur doing with I can beat sim but urs is tricky lol and is the best I played so far
but u didn't always pick Him huh? Cuz u would of been SG already

Posted by TyphooMantis on December 24, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. #982

I was doing player matches for a looong time with sim, because I had to learn every match up because people often counter pick, so I wasnt ready for champ mode.

When I first bought the game I was Sagat an Ryu, but I personally thought they were overpowered, and didn't feel any glory in winning.

Then I was Blanka an Abel but couldn't beat the camping turtles, so that took care of them two!

Then I chose Sim since NO ONE can out turtle sim, plus I could attack using tricks and deception! When I first used sim I ust to get raped considering he's NOT a powerful fighter, but stuck with him until pain-stakingly I put together a method which can't easily be cracked, it was well worth the effort considering I hardly lose in champ mode!

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 24, 2009 at 7:37 p.m. #983

@ Ttphoomantis yea I can tell u put in the work wit Sim I play Ryu and minor with Akuma but we will See in Super street figher 4 what the future holds for me. my game is basically counter attacking and rushing when I see an opening but against Sim and Gief I pick and choose my spots to attack as u seen I play Ryu differently from most and I pride myself on that I just got a vid on a seth see what I did

Posted by mr superbad on December 25, 2009 at 9:40 a.m. #984

hi im new to the game and im very confused on what the arrows mean if someonee could help me out on understanding how to do these combos it would be great!

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 25, 2009 at 11:16 a.m. #985

@Superbad what arrows r u talking about sometimes they mean the order of the combo u have to do the sequence

Posted by p on December 25, 2009 at 11:48 a.m. #986

does any1 use the 1 button focus cancels i dont bt i found out today that u can

Posted by mr superbad on December 25, 2009 at 12:46 p.m. #987

@cuttyb87 i mean the arrows on the directional pad or the LS

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 25, 2009 at 3:02 p.m. #988

@P yea I found out before but I think thats cheap and then again in the tourneys they can mod their joysticks to anything they want so maybe they do or maybe they don't?

@Superbad sometime they mean u have to press forward and the button at the same time like RYu solar plex punch forward and punch at the same time kind of thing

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 26, 2009 at 4:01 a.m. #989

I figure out ryu kara throw its Hard Kick and then grab nice range for what it is kind of tricky tho

Posted by CoolStuff on December 26, 2009 at 8:11 a.m. #990

It is possible to do a jab srk into ultra. And not at the peak of the opponent jump either im talking about both chars on the ground. The position is extremely strict though as the jab srk has to touch the opponent char at the peak of the light jab srk, such that when ryu lands he has enough time to ultra and connect FULLY.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 26, 2009 at 4:52 p.m. #991

@Cutty
yea the kara throw is nice to know... honestly, its hard... i think its a 1 frame kara, and doesnt go too far, but hey, if you can do it, go for it! And you guys are friends to me too :P

@P
i dont get it, whats a 1 button focus?

@CoolStuff
Arnoldo taught us that already, he has videos for it too

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 27, 2009 at 1:23 a.m. #992

@Lucy u said u like to play akuma right Y? i have my reason and I just want to hear urs on him?

and I was thinking on how to make this game even better in the future... in street fighter 5 they should make it 2-d like third strike with a 3-d background like blaz blue and of the wall stuff like Guilty gear and maybe people from all other stf games past and present can comeback to it

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 27, 2009 at 1:16 p.m. #993

I watched one of daigo's fights, he tossed about a thousand hadokens. and plays a lot of footsie. I would dare him to play without throwing a single fireball and I know he will not even last. And is Akuma better than Ryu in street fighter 4, all the movies that I watched Ryu always loses to Akuma.

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 27, 2009 at 7:02 p.m. #994

@ryu apprentice. Ryu wins because he can keep akuma grounded and spam fireballs and play footsies

Posted by cuttyB on December 27, 2009 at 8:35 p.m. #995

And also a good ryu needs to spam its who he is loll he needs to push people n the corner and fireball spam its like akuma not runningv away or abel not rollinv c viper not punching the ground. IMO Diago is beast cuz he has his fundamentals down right to a science and he really stick to the basics and win alot

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 27, 2009 at 10:59 p.m. #996

@Cutty
I like Akuma cause of his mind boggling mixups, cool looking and very damaging combos, and for some reason, the low health also attracts me, i guess b/c it makes it more challenging. You know me, i like rushdown cause i can think of strange pressure and stuff like that.

@Ryu Apprentice
And well said Cutty, i was about to spaz out all those examples too; Geif w/o SPD, Balrog w/o dash punch, Ken w/o his flowcharts shoryukens! :P

Ryu's 3 most versatile, effective moves (since you guys disagree with me saying hes OP) are his Hadoken, crMK, Shoryuken. So essentially he usually has a large advantage with zoning/footsies

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 28, 2009 at 1:19 a.m. #997

@ lucy yea man people say we can't play like Diago but its like this honestly I have my own style of play and he has his I watch the best to learn form him he taught me about pressure and the ways o get around it and what to do in certian situations and I do my thing in matches also lookin forward to evo'10

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 28, 2009 at 4:37 a.m. #998

Im sure most Ryu's watch daigo's videos and such to learn from the best, i mean, why not? Everyone developes their own play style, it may not be as refined or effective as Daigo's but thats why we're learning :P

When is Evo2010 taking place? I wish anyone attending it good luck, for i dont have the cash to go there.

Also, early Happy New Years everyone!

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 28, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. #999

@Lucy.Elfenlied

I wonder how one can improve on reflexes and response time. I play ryu mainly and though I can spot whiffs and mistakes I cant punish fully cos my reflex aint that good.

Daigo is good, cmon he plays STF4 for seven hours everyday (opposed to me playing maximum 4hours) and he spends most time training and practicing combos.

I have gotten my PC version but my computer cannot run it smoothly so sorry I havent started playing stf4.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on December 28, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. #1000

@ Ryu apprentice Its all about practice u need to see what works for u and my advice to u is to play online and see matchups probs u do u lose to alot? and figure out how u lost the match

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 28, 2009 at 1:37 p.m. #1001

@cutty

Thanks man, well street fighter aint popular here and it is difficult to find anyone to play with so I dont know how good I am. Though I am comfortable with playing ryu the only problem I still have is whiffing shoryukens.

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 28, 2009 at 2:19 p.m. #1002

@ ryu apprentice check for ranges and see what works becareful of over poinkg and the footsie ranges use small shoryukens for jump ins and use hard for exchanges and ultras and

go to practice mode and do random things I call them workouts do combo workouts and do focus and anti air practices

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 28, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. #1003

I havent started playing STF 4 am still playing third strike. Guess I have to buy PS3 or XBOX360, which one is better

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 28, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #1004

@Cutty & Apprentice

I personally dont like using the light shoryuken and stay away from it as much as i can. There are those time people jump over you and u get them and free juggle ultra, and yes i do it if i see it. But as an anti air for more skilled players it is not realiable. Say they jump into you from front, but its not a safe jump. Your light shoryu can still get stuffed. As for HP srk does not and can be done very deeply with crouching position to not trade at all to save you that that bit of health. Trade the hit if you want to ultra and dont have ex bar i guess...

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 28, 2009 at 8:35 p.m. #1005

@ Lucy ur right the light shoryuken is a good one it on the player and I can do a light shoryuken and land then ultra my friend likes to fadc out of it IDk y lol

@ Ryu apprentice the price has dropped on the 360 and Ps3 it up to u to spend the money on it I guess I suggest to look at the systems and see what other games u would like to play if u play online the 360 has a better internet connection and go their but their pads suck u would use something else but the Ps3 is fine tho

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 29, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. #1006

Why cant I get used to not whiffing shoryukens, I always get my butt handed to me when I whiff. my dashing game is now much better. although I cant plan my moves up ahead yet.

How do I perform safe jump in moves, and can you play ryu without jumping?

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 29, 2009 at 3:58 p.m. #1007

@ ryu apprentice a safe jump for ryu something off a knock down and is a cross over not jumping in front wildly I think I can be wrong

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 29, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. #1008

Ok you have several options to obtain a safe jump from your ground game (so assuming you didnt jump in on a unsafe hado)

1. hitting a EX hado
-from poke
-through a regular fireball
-catch opponent trying to focus ur follow up hado after crMK
2. land a sweep <--- most important one
-combo in the sweep after jabs/crMP
-just get a sweep through footsies

After you got the hard knockdown, you can safe jump. Cutty, there is safe jump from the front, but they one will take a lot of practice for proper timing. I tend to use the front one more when i get the hard knockdown. There are safe cross overs too ofcourse. The front safe jump is one frame that if your opponent Shoryus on wakeup, you will block, if they didnt and tried to do something else, you will hit them for a hella painful combo.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 29, 2009 at 7:15 p.m. #1009

Thanks man.

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 29, 2009 at 10:22 p.m. #1010

Also don't do shoryukens on the wake up try a. To do hurricane kick are safer or dash back helps and fireball spam is ryu game so play the basics and u should be fine

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 30, 2009 at 4:30 a.m. #1011

pretty much... but wont hurricane kick on wakeup easily get stuffed by meaty attacks?

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 30, 2009 at 9:35 a.m. #1012

@ Lucy u know I have to say I don't know what to do on a wake up lol I just jump backwards or cr.lk that works sometimes

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on December 31, 2009 at 1:27 a.m. #1013

either watch for a possible anti air shoryuken, counter hit shoryu, or just block. There are some other options you will find for yourself for certain matchups.

Oh, if people try to cross you up, you can actually shoryu those without reversing the dp motion, auto correct ftw

Posted by cuttyb87 on December 31, 2009 at 12:28 p.m. #1014

So what ur saying is auto correct really? and what about miss timing and what shoryu is best?

Posted by cuttyb877 on December 31, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. #1015

Btw wha is an untechable knockdown a sweep or what

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on December 31, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #1016

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Wish you guys the best that a new year has to offer.
May some of you be better than daigo omehara
and some than justin wongs
May your lives be happy merry and full of blessings
and most importantly more SHORYUKENS to your elbows

Posted by BEST on January 1, 2010 at 12:52 p.m. #1017

ill beat anyone of ur ryu. Xbox live come if u want to lose

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 1, 2010 at 3:04 p.m. #1018

@BEST

hmm... you are just not worth fighting.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 1, 2010 at 7:08 p.m. #1019

@Cutty
miss timing might cause u to get hit, cause then it wouldnt have auto corrected and you would get hit in the back. Hard DP is only one you can do it with for Ryu, or if you can with otehrs, hard is the best.

HAPPY NEW YEARS

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 1, 2010 at 7:28 p.m. #1020

I'm movin so I need a new system which 1 should I choose to play stf4 on
@ Ryu apprentice don't be so mean he looking for attention lol
@ Best I would of thought since u lost u would of humbled urself but I guess not relax lol

@ Lucy what srk is the best 1 for the wake up I don't like to srk on the wake-up anyway tho cuz 4 what move is good on a wake up? I like nothing it depends lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 2, 2010 at 11:28 a.m. #1021

Though I havent played SF4, I guess the best wake up attack is low punch shoryuken then focus attack dash cancel backwards if its blocked. low punch shoryuken has the smallest startup frame and large hit frame

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 2, 2010 at 7:26 p.m. #1022

@ ryu apprentice. That's cool but a lot of the times u whiff u get destroyed. I think I should buy or a stick I play at the arcades but prefer a pad and I was wondering which one is the best for me I any ideas

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 2, 2010 at 7:38 p.m. #1023

Btw what is untechable knockdown and anybody feel that the mp hadouken is best 1 or is it just me

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 3, 2010 at 6:48 a.m. #1024

@cuttyb87

Oh well there is no perfect wake up move, just stick with which ever works with you.

About the controllers if your reflexes are god-like then go for an arcade stick but if you are more of a technical guy go for pad. I can never pull off a kara demon with akuma on a controller (I dont think anyone can) by the way all thing being equal then you should go for which ever you are confortable with.

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on January 3, 2010 at 2:09 p.m. #1025

@Cutty
yea just go with what u are comfortable with. About the hado... i think mp hado is the least useful. It travels at a rate slower than hard, there fore giving ur opponent more time to react. Also it travels are a rate faster than light, therefore they can jump earlier, and at a certain spacing, anything faster than light hado is not safe, but if they jumped over the light hado you can DP.

Generally in a full screen (or nearly) fireball war, i will throw variations of hados with no given pattern, that might be the only time i use mp hado.

Dude you gotta start liking wakeup shoryukens then! and i dont mean just spamming it like noobs. If you start doing them, you will learn when to do em. I rarely whiff, but i get baited and make mistakes too. As i said before, i use hard dp to cover both my sides. But light dp comes once in a while when they do a late jump and ur already up. A friend of mine also told me that medium dp covers a certain spot above Ryu that neither LP nor HP shoryu covers, but i havent found out what it is. Btw, all shoryus have same startup, but only HP shoryu has the priority you want.

As Apprentice said, even if they are pressuring you from the ground on ur wakeup (this is when u have to look really closely before shoryu) if you have two ex bars, you are safe even if it does get blocked because you just wanted to throw one out to see what happens (which you shouldnt do anyway).

Hope this helped, that was a lot of typing = ="

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 3, 2010 at 3 p.m. #1026

Guys I found this flash movie/game on street fighter online

Its hilarious

check it out

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view...

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 3, 2010 at 8:03 p.m. #1027

yea those lol, have seen em b4, pretty funny.

Ryu: "I WANT SOME PANCAKES!"

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 3, 2010 at 8:31 p.m. #1028

@Lucy yea notice that I play cautiously lol I serve and frustriate my enemy now but I need to land my fadc differently am trying to master the cr.lk cr.lp cr.mp shoryuken but I miss it 4 out 10 times idk what's going the shoryuken never comes out y? Btw I was lookin for start up on the shoryus lol good to know any advice on comboing into a shoryuken

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 4, 2010 at 12:31 p.m. #1029

@cuttyb87

This is how I normally combo into a shoryuken, I have to hide the motion into the move I am pulling off, for your combo I will do it like this

cr.lk cr.lp forward down cr.mp forward Punch

that should make the shoryuken come out faster.

I just bought a controller for my Third Strike (I busted the old one trying to pull off some moves on snk vs capcom)

and am just kicking as in third strike!

Tried using hadoken as wakeup and didnt turn out good
also try ex hurricane kick for wake up.

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 4, 2010 at 2:43 p.m. #1030

@ryu apprentice u mean hide the move? So by putting the motion in like that wouldn,t I move forward a lttle bit what if I just smashdown forward srk? I love snk vs capcom 2 and I main ryu n that along with other people what system ur playwing on

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 4, 2010 at 3:55 p.m. #1031

@cuttyb87

well the reason behind hiding the move is just to cut down the time it takes to perform the shoryuken motion normally,I dont really understand what you mean by smashdown forward srk.
I play on PC.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 4, 2010 at 5:14 p.m. #1032

check this page for some techniques for ryu

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/...

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 4, 2010 at 9:18 p.m. #1033

i still dont understand why use medium dp = ="

Anyway, im kinda pissed cause i just went on a losing streak online... i couldnt time anything right. This always happens after i get used to the arcade feel again... online is stupid... gotta input everything before you're actually suppose to = ="

This ryu was just spamming light dp's, and usually, these are easily punishable with a relatively fast attack like our crMK, but no, it gotta have redicolous delay so by the time it comes out he dp'ed me again = ="
If i knock him down, i do my usual safe jump, but again, nope, comes out too late so i shoryu'ed for ultra = ="]

Losing to that guy several times THE SAME WAY made me never want to play online in my life lol

Sry guys, i just wanted to rage QQ here :P

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 5, 2010 at 7:45 a.m. #1034

@Lucy online is good for the people who can't play in the aracdes I play online just to see different match-ups for upcoming tourneys or what not but yea it delays moves online and the majority of my misses come from online lol. maybe thats why I can't connect the meduim punch into shoryuken online but against my bro I do it... maybe u should only play friends face to face online lags and lag spike during close matches

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 5, 2010 at 8:43 a.m. #1035

Online Lags, thats painful, I envy you guys playiing street fighter 4, its quite easier to link combos.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 5, 2010 at 2:44 p.m. #1036

Do you guys know that reversals have a few frames of invincibility, so if you can land it consistently you can beat out cross over junkies.

I have mastered reversal supers (74% consistency) and I really love it.

Still 50-50 on reversal shoryukens

Posted by Lucy,ElfenLied on January 5, 2010 at 7:06 p.m. #1037

@Cutty
yea i try to play at arcades as much as i can, pretty much once or twice a week.

@Apprentice
is that in third strike or SF4? cause i know the reversal dp has invincible frames

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 6, 2010 at 2:20 p.m. #1038

jeez I tried playing alpha 3 online but the lag really made me look bad. I used Akuma and Dan had my hide, could only win a round with akuma.

@Lucy

Third Strike

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 6, 2010 at 2:23 p.m. #1039

@lucy yea thats cool to i use online only to fine tune a few things in the matches and do alot of things in practice in those games

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 6, 2010 at 2:32 p.m. #1040

Looking at the new trailer Ryu second ultra is the metsu shoryuken and it may be the best thing on the game hopefully they don't screw up nothing on it lol and I wonder how u can combo into it??? of a fadc perhaps

@Ryu apprentice in Alpha that game is actually easier to play cuz all characters have their supers and use the alpha counters I love alpha series so much its sucks u don't like it keep playing u will get it

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 6, 2010 at 3:05 p.m. #1041

@cuttyb87

Dont get me wrong I love alpha 3 the problem is the lag, before I can move its as if Dan teleports and strikes me down (I guess its bad internet connection)

As for the metsu shoryuken I didnt like it in alpha 3 (does very little damage) and it consumed three bars of super.

I hope that they made it better, though I would still stick with metsu hadoken because there are a million ways to land it

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 6, 2010 at 9:06 p.m. #1042

we'll see how the metsu shoryu comes out before.

@Cutty
Yea i only play online to learn matchup knowledge and such

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 7, 2010 at 6:59 p.m. #1043

@lucy wow ryu ultra is goddy I wonder how we can combo into maybe off a fadc or a corner juggle the damage better be worth it

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 8, 2010 at 12:44 a.m. #1044

damage probably better than metsu hado. Probably similar ways too chain it, but not as many.

See akuma's new roflcopter ultra? lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 8, 2010 at 3:38 a.m. #1045

I love the way this is going with Ryu
first the metsu-hadoken, then metsu-shoryuken

Then third strike SHIN SHORYUKEN!

wow that guy trains really hard.

Played alpha 3 online and got my ass whooped, out of six matches I only won two (with zangief and ken).

My ryu use in alpha sucked because I am only good with ryu in third strike.

I pray the give him the sliding kick.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 8, 2010 at 7:59 a.m. #1046

Ok, OH MY GOD! WHAT THE f**K, man did some piss off Ryu or something, if there was ever any shoryuken that was meant to kill someone then this is it. I wonder how Vega would feel to get hit with this deadly move

But I dont understand Ryu originally unleashed metsu shoryuken when he gave in to the Satsui no Hado, is it a sign that he hasnt fully overcome it even though Gouken sealed it off in SF4? your thoughts....

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 8, 2010 at 9:06 a.m. #1047

@ Ryu apprentice I love his new ultra but I was thinking how can he lad it successfully? after fadc or a blown move and a whiff attack by ur enemy maybe the startup time is close to nothing and that means Gouken beat Akuma and trained Ryu to fight him after the firsrt street fighter 4
BTW I main Ryu in alpha and try fireball trapping and lp shoryukens to beat ur enemy

@ Lucy wow man that damage scaling will suck I can already tell lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 8, 2010 at 9:42 a.m. #1048

Yeah, by the looks of it, looks similar to shin shoryuken in third strike in terms of landing it, of course it can nail a whiff and punish a blown move, may be tricky to land as an anti air though the priority will be godly.

Thanks for the tip on alpha. just that the lag is killing the joy.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 8, 2010 at 11:19 a.m. #1049

The articles on this website says that Ryu's hard shoryuken will hit twice?? Now he going to have the same problem as ken and Akuma wtf man so we have to learn the to use the medium or what?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 8, 2010 at 1:29 p.m. #1050

I dont like it either, I prefered the one punch version.

What problem does Ken and Akuma Have?

I dont like the ultra they gave to Akuma, made him look like a Joke, and most of them aint serious more like comical (dhalsim and cody and elfuerte and gief and blanka)

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 9, 2010 at 9:51 a.m. #1051

@Ryu apprentice the problem Akuma and Ken face is that they can hit u once with a shoryuken and miss the rest of the attack and be able to get punished coming down and ryu may have a better shoryuken anti air game cuz Ken medium shoryuken is his anti air which also hits twice

Posted by BEST on January 9, 2010 at 3:43 p.m. #1052

hey guys....just wanted to test where ur skills are at. gamertag is.............B3stoftheBest................lets play a couple of game and ill tell u what u can improve on.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 9, 2010 at 6:09 p.m. #1053

@Apprentice
yea akuma (mp,hp dp) and ken (mp dp) if used on a grouded opponent at certain ranges could cause the rest to whiff.

@Cutty
where did u see that HP dp will be changed? If the two hit worked like Ryu's ex shoryu, then it wouldnt have that chance of whiffing off grounded targets

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 10, 2010 at 7:17 a.m. #1054

@lucys check the message board on this site to see it ill get the headline for it

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 10, 2010 at 7:24 a.m. #1055

@lucy its called alternate custome bloggers discussed and djs alternate costume is shown on the front its listed as a change

Posted by BEST on January 10, 2010 at 11:59 p.m. #1056

i havent met a Ryu that was dominate yet. I only seen diago dominate with Ryu but noone can play like how diago does. Let me show u guys what im talking about, gamertag is up there.

Posted by KD on January 11, 2010 at 6:25 a.m. #1057

Ryu will most likely get nerfed in SSF4, because he was overpowered in SF4...that will be the best change in SSF4 ;)

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 11, 2010 at 7:04 a.m. #1058

Ryu isn't his best version because his srk. Isn't as good as they used to be ie trades and he has to use his ex for a red hado back. In the day it ws a. Half circle motion. I hope he get some. Old skool priority back so he can be a mix between alpha and third strike.
@best wy do u troll this page get a ps3 so u can play us. Or somethin I barely have time to play online but I go to practice mode more cuz online suck. Just to keep it real

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 11, 2010 at 6:24 p.m. #1059

@Best
yea why troll this page. Even if u dominate on XBL, what does it matter, play at the arcades. Thats where the real players are. I dominate WL, but it doesnt matter, im just average regarding the usual arcade crew in my area.

@Cutty & Apprentice
well Ryu's gameplay wont change too much thats for sure, still will be hadoken spam all day lmao. He'll be kept overpowered as a zoner due to his lack of really weird mixups.

Sadly, i dont think an arcade or PC release will be in the near future, hopefully some of my friends who play on XBL/PS3 will buy it :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 11, 2010 at 10:03 p.m. #1060

@lucy get the ps3 version because me and shin has it on that system if u get it on the 360 u will play best and tell us how he is lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 12, 2010 at 1:07 a.m. #1061

yea i'll see what my friends want to do, they aint that into SF though, but hopefully :D

I am curious how Best is, since he always comes to this page and boasts about his superiority in skill level.

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 12, 2010 at 10:16 a.m. #1062

@lucy I played him before he has a lil above average no kara throw just everything he does end in a ex tastu okay but horrible lag in the game he could be better I could of pick a charge character but I was playing on my friend fight stick tho so I sucked lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 12, 2010 at 11:24 a.m. #1063

The truth is that someone that is very good rarely boasts.

Posted by BEST on January 12, 2010 at 11:56 a.m. #1064

if i was above average then. Then i must be a pro now cuhz i improve big time. I think i beat cuttyb87 like 7 games to 1 i believe.

Posted by guile is best on January 12, 2010 at 1:10 p.m. #1065

does he have kick from 3rd strike

Posted by Cuttyb on January 12, 2010 at 5:19 p.m. #1066

@ Best man relax we played awhile ago I picked ryu like 2 times the lag was terrible and I was playing on a pad I was using my friends fight stick cuz I wanted to try it and I refuse to play the game on the 360 pad if u ever get the game on the Ps3 I would kill u believe my bro plays Ken and we play all the time and I show him vids of top level kens and he plays like them I got great practice against kens

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 12, 2010 at 5:35 p.m. #1067

Again at Best lol no disrespect man I am not talking trash or anything but I know u play the game alot but I play online soley for matchup situations so when I played u I never really picked Akuma, ( Cuz he wasn't unlocked yet) guile and even Sagat i was trying out the fight stick ur Ken is Above average I didn't see what u made urself out to be the greatest Ken ever so I graded u on ur words and actions

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 13, 2010 at 7:16 a.m. #1068

Its official his hard shoryuken is two hits which means it will whiff the. Second hit or it would be like kens anti air medium srk. No matter I started to use the medium srk more anyway lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 13, 2010 at 12:34 p.m. #1069

@best

*yawn*

@cuttyb87
Hey man I played ken and realized what you meant! am crying my eyes of because I always wiffed the shorykens after the first on hits.

Why didnt they leave it to one hit since his ex hits twice, so what will the ex do now? hit thrice?

Do you think that Ryu is going evil? he is making too much use of metsu moves which can only be done by using satsui no hado, He didnt have anything to do with metsu in third strike so what the hell is going on?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 13, 2010 at 4:27 p.m. #1070

@Cutty
above avg for online? thats fail in my books, sry Best, just having fun trash talking trolls :D

@Apprentice
word, good players are USUALLY modest

Well i think the storyline goes that Gouken sealed off Ryu's satui no hado at the end of SF4, thus going into SF3 where he uses Shin related techniques.

Cant wait to use Juri and her Feng-shui engine ultra, it'll be like playing KoF '02, or something of the sort :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 13, 2010 at 8:34 p.m. #1071

I don't want it to seem am hatin on best or anything but it is what it is he told me this is his first stf game so he is a noob in the series and my ken in sstf2 is retardedly great tourney worthy but anyway akuma may suck and ryu am undecided on what going to happen to ryu. Lord give me a sign lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 14, 2010 at 2:25 a.m. #1072

This is my first STF game as well, since i dont rly count SF2, i was like 6 years old or something :D

You can decide when u try them out in SSF4, no rush :P

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 14, 2010 at 10:24 a.m. #1073

I pick Ryu and Akuma and Guile alot and it seems Guile has gotten better his normals take nice damage and he may have a usable ultra finally and Akuma he is being put as a character that kills fast and dies faster and is hard to play for some reason. AND Ryu I'am undecided on what to think on what they are doing I guess he will be a zoner and spacer forever no mix up game what so ever

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 14, 2010 at 1:32 p.m. #1074

I play Ryu, Zangief, Ken.

But I love Ryu, He has a never say DIE attitude and he kind of inspires me never to give up when things get rough.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 14, 2010 at 7:39 p.m. #1075

Ryu's mixups are really his "tich throw" options, thats really where his mixups come in For example, at that range u can; throw, ex tastu, heavy shoryu, cr shorts/jabs, walk slightly backwards crMP. Besides that, he is all zone and reactions.

Akuma doesnt necessarily die fast with his teleport and air hados, he is reasonably hard to play well though.

Guile is kind of mediocre in this version of SF compared to before, but can still be very effective with skill and wit. His normals are godlike, he has next to no recovery for his SB, and his air throw is awsome :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 15, 2010 at 5:17 a.m. #1076

A mind screww with akuma is to dash forward and super lol and ryu is to walk to ur enemy then srk them with guile his target combo off a wake up lol try it dash up to ur opponent and do a special it will work 8/10 times

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 15, 2010 at 8:31 p.m. #1077

its because if they try to tech u, then u will frame trap them. Does anyone use akuma's flip into super? I find it very useful :D you can do it off light tastu resets as well.

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 15, 2010 at 9:42 p.m. #1078

I like akuma super personally its better than his ultra and I don't rely on his ex air fireball a lot but I do supers more and connect alot

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 16, 2010 at 10:19 a.m. #1079

Finally I am playing street fighter 4

wow! its soooooo cooolll!

Its a bit harder than third strike and I cant pull off FADC into ultra (I keep getting ex shoryuken)

Finished the trial for my dear Ryu-san both normal and hard

unlocked every one except gouken and seth.

now I can join the current trend yahoooo!

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 16, 2010 at 11:45 a.m. #1080

@ryu apprentice yea man what system u playing on? And try some moves and comeback and contribute to the discussion we have

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 17, 2010 at 12:19 a.m. #1081

yay congratz Apprentice ^^ did u get a new pc? or did u get it on console?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 17, 2010 at 4:49 a.m. #1082

I play on PC, my brothee in law's PC, spent hours tweaking the settings for it to be playable without being slow. I would love to play you guys online but I think am too far away that eh lag will be too much. Just unlocked gouken, wont bother to unlock seth. Ryu plays different than third strike and most of my tricks dont work so well on sf4.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 17, 2010 at 5:02 a.m. #1083

I cant seem to connect ultra with ryu, i only get it if it hit the PPP half a second after I do the motion. If I am fast I only get ex shoryuken, i think its because the three punch is assigned to the left shoulder button on my controller.

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 17, 2010 at 9:59 a.m. #1084

@ryu apprentice try doin the complete and do it fast but take ur time off the fadc u will get it eventually

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 17, 2010 at 2:20 p.m. #1085

getting used to FADC, thanks.
Trying out some unusual combos

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 17, 2010 at 2:37 p.m. #1086

@ryu app a lot of the fadc comes from the dashing forward so if u miss it its probably u forgot to dash forward. Btw work on your bnb combos before u go crazy

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 17, 2010 at 3:48 p.m. #1087

Bnb? I mastered those since the days of ex2 plus. Spent an hour practicing FADC into ultra and I am finally getting used to it, its kinda like Tai Chi, if I flow with the motion it comes out sweet.

Played my first game online. The lag was much but I managed to almost beat cammy, for some reason she couldnt dodge my ultra from a noticeable distance.

Tried some custom combos. Here is one of them:

Jmp MP into EX Shoryuken + FADC into Ultra,

Looks so cool, named it Satsui no Juggle.

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 17, 2010 at 8:23 p.m. #1088

@ryu apprentice wow great keep playing try doing a hard shoryuken instead of ex u take more damage and try focus training by having sagat through tiger shots low and high different speeds and focus back and forth work on reaction time

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 17, 2010 at 10:19 p.m. #1089

The combo is an air to air combo, thats why I use ex shoryuken for it to connect.

Thanks for the advice.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 17, 2010 at 10:20 p.m. #1090

@Ryu apprentice
sry about this but if you are doing "jmp mp ex shoryu" then you have your NOT even close to DOING bnb combos.

These combos are good, but are at a higher lvl of use:
jump in HP, crMP, crHP, HP shoryu
crMK, crMK, crHK
crLP, crLK, crLP, LP, crHK

Start with basic, practical stuff man. Here are some basic BNBs. Start off with stuff like this:
crLK, crLP, HP shoryu
crHP, HP shoryu
crLP, crLP, crHP, any tastu
crLK, crLP, crMP, hado
crMK, hado <---------------MOST IMPORTANT ONE!!!!

Just do these, you shouldnt really bother with anything else, theres just no point.

Assume any of these can start off from ground or Jump in, and any that end with HP shoryu can FADC ultra!

Good luck praticing!!! Give me some feedback!!!

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 17, 2010 at 11:11 p.m. #1091

I can already pull most of the combos you listed. Although in battle I prefer short but damaging combos like jmp HP standing HP into HK hurricane kick until I have ex to play with, thanks for the info.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 18, 2010 at 1:23 a.m. #1092

But honestly, against good players, how often do you get a jump in? Usually if you get a fully succesful jump in, you almost won :D

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 18, 2010 at 3:18 a.m. #1093

Yeah quite true, I am still learning to do without jump in, but it aint easy to jump in on computer even, oh well practice makes perfect.

Is it possible to play xbox players with the PC VERSION.

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 18, 2010 at 7:41 a.m. #1094

@ryu apprentice I think u can't play pc against 360 but who knows what controller u use to play the game on? And try doing or going over some ways to punish with ryu I like to do the solar plex punch into hp shoryuken fadc ultra. A lot of damagae and stun

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 18, 2010 at 7:58 a.m. #1095

The solar plexus strike has way too much start up time. I play with USB controller. I normally punish with HP instead.

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 18, 2010 at 11:45 a.m. #1096

@Ryu apprentice I use that move to pressure and put people in uncomfortable situations lol it does but when it easy to go into a shoryuken and fadc or u can cr.lp cr.mp and destroy u will figure out a system that best suits u this are all ideas youtube some matches or of diago and Mickey ryu they are great ryus and sanford kelley

and Btw what state are u from anyway

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 18, 2010 at 12:51 p.m. #1097

more like what continent. I am in Lagos, Nigeria. I guess the solar plexus strike is good for piling pressure on your opponents. I also love pulling reversal ultras but some how there is always space to block it unless you reversed a hit after blocking it

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 18, 2010 at 4:05 p.m. #1098

For punishing, usually i do crMP, crHP, hp shoryu, or if i have less time, then i would just crHP, hp shoryu since its a lot easier XD

Yea dash punch is good for pressure, because of its good priority and double hit to break focus. I usually like to do difficult links after it (just to challenge myself) unless i need the shoryu to win.

I dont even know where that is, but i assume its too far since its not within my geography knowledge XD

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 19, 2010 at 12:40 a.m. #1099

Yeah its very far in a continent named Africa, i won my first match online yesterday(then lost 2). The lag was a bit annoying but not as bad since I have a not up to par internet connection.

What is Ryu's kara throw?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 19, 2010 at 2:09 p.m. #1100

my game is improving, have 280 GP

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 19, 2010 at 3:02 p.m. #1101

Sorry I meant BP which is 351 now. Yeesh the lag is horrible and with it I still win 33% of my fights. Anyone on PC or XBOX. Tag is ryuapprentice

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 19, 2010 at 5:24 p.m. #1102

Ryu Kara throw is Standing hard kick then throw all in a split second of each other like third strike
RYu Apprentice ur black? Or should I say African? And try to watch matches online so u can see different scenarios I preach that because I learned alot from Diago and playing Shin Arnoldo

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 19, 2010 at 6:03 p.m. #1103

Yup am African, a cute handsome african,lol! Thanks for the info on the kara throw. My thumbs are kinda sore from playing online due to lag and execution delays. Would have loved to go one on one with you. So wats ya BP standing and your rep?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 19, 2010 at 10:43 p.m. #1104

yea online sucks when there is delay, and its prob worse for you cause u live so far away from the majority of the online population. My BP is currently stuck around 4k - 4200. Its hard to find matches where i get a significant amount of points now. I mostly just get 1 per match, and if i lose, i lose like 100+ bp lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 19, 2010 at 10:54 p.m. #1105

wow 4000+ you are cool! with the lag i may never get up to that. the botton response is so slow, shoryuken comes out a second late. guess I will only play against cpu

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 20, 2010 at 10:26 a.m. #1106

I don't have much BP lol 1500 I do Championship matches I'am a g-1 C

Posted by help on January 20, 2010 at 12:53 p.m. #1107

what does QBC mean

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 20, 2010 at 3:57 p.m. #1108

@ Help quarter circle back. down, down back, back

Posted by help on January 21, 2010 at 12:23 a.m. #1109

@cuttyb87

thanks

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 21, 2010 at 1:03 a.m. #1110

Cutty, u should play more Ranked matches, people there are better as you reach a certain BP. At least championship kinda sucks for PC, cause im in G-1 and i can never find games with decent connection, or even any games at all.

But BP is a better point system to determine skill lvl imo

Yea Apprentice, it really sucks to play with delay. I dont mind losing b/c of some stupid mistake, but losing cause of lag, really pisses me off. Maybe u can get godly internet? lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 21, 2010 at 9:29 a.m. #1111

Nah, it aint worth it, online is over hyped, the only cool thing is that there are different styles of play, from up close and personal to long distance figths, i fought a ken player that just does jump over and shoryuken, and another that just goes for cross ups which in my opinion is not dangerous, the best ken I fought can use kara throw to really make my life miserable. the funny part is the cammy I fought while using gief, she was a mile away everytime, but due to superior stamina and a couple of spinning pile drivers and ultimate atomic busters she refused to play me again. Lol! the most painful part is I cannot land any combos due to the lag issue. Bottom line I have to manage.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 21, 2010 at 10:18 p.m. #1112

BP now 400+, won 2 sraight matches online. I know that is not an achievement but if you play with lag to me it is, the game ran more smoothly today.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 22, 2010 at 1:46 a.m. #1113

well, at least it seems you are somewhat enjoying yourself, which is the important part ^o^

Well the different styles of play honestly doesnt really matter. At a top tier level, most users of that character will follow the style it is suppose to instead of doing random stuff that less experienced players may do.

Posted by CUTTYB87 on January 22, 2010 at 3:04 p.m. #1114

Yea really online is way to find out different attack methods to other characters and the aracdes where the comp really is or at tourney's

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 22, 2010 at 3:32 p.m. #1115

Guys I am going to hang up my street fighter gloves for the time being, my brother in law says that I will spoil his computer by playing games on it (what ignorance causes) going to have to save up and buy a laptop for my self. Is there any way that I can transfer my gamertag to another pc and retain all my points?

guess its back to third strike for the time being

Posted by doppler on January 22, 2010 at 9:03 p.m. #1116

well...the 80% of the internet players choce ryu.... he is an overpowered character, capcom must degrade ruy because his so tricky and do very much damage as well

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 23, 2010 at 12:24 a.m. #1117

I got so hype at arcade tonight, 13 win streak with the regulars with my Ryu. I also beat Canada's best sagat with my Viper, with 5 win streak :D

@Apprentice
u keep all your points if you log on to the same account, u do lose your unlockables though, but that is hackable

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 23, 2010 at 8:42 a.m. #1118

@ryu. Apprentice I don't think so, but atleast u played it and got ur stf fix tho and btw. Whoever said ryu is overpowered must never fought against a decent rufus lol ryu is boring and attacks head on stop jumping and failing into fireball traps

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 23, 2010 at 2:06 p.m. #1119

yeah I did and it was wonderful. anyway I think I can keep on fighting wheneva I can. I am basically the only one with the original version of the game in the country so there is no one to even play without serious lag.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 23, 2010 at 4:57 p.m. #1120

lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 24, 2010 at 2:09 a.m. #1121

@ryu apprentice how do u play dudley in third strike he seems easy but I can't do it for some reason he has chain combos and how do u do them thirdstrike expert

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 24, 2010 at 10:42 a.m. #1122

@cuttyb87

I never played with dudley, I play Ryu Ken Akuma and Alex (and Remy occasionally). I didnt play dudley.

but if you ask me I think the key to playing him is anticipation mmost of the time anyway.

Sorry I couldnt be of much help.

any question about ryu I'll be glad to answer

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 24, 2010 at 10:54 a.m. #1123

why cant I jump over the raging demon with a jump kick?

STF4

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 24, 2010 at 11:01 a.m. #1124

Hint to all Ryu Players,

NEVER THROW OUT A METSU HADOKEN WITHOUT ANY SETUP!

jesus I always get my ass kicked whenever I do that

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 24, 2010 at 11:34 a.m. #1125

todays lag was too much, I think my fingerS ARE BROKEN.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 24, 2010 at 4:10 p.m. #1126

@Apprentice

Lol, its a pretty given fact that you should never throw a super or ultra without a setup.
Metsu throw a enemy fireball that you SEE (not predict) seems random, but it isnt.

What do u mean u cant jump over a raging demon with jump kick?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 24, 2010 at 10:46 p.m. #1127

I mean if someone peforms a ultra raging demon and you jump kick at him its as if you freeze in the air and drop staight down into the move.

I am getting my ass whipped online, back to 200+ BP, I almost felt like tapping into the satsui no hado (LOL!)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 25, 2010 at 12:24 a.m. #1128

if someone just does a random raging demon, just HP shoryuken or metsu it. Dont wait for last second though, cause he can catch up on the starting frames. If you are feeling u can get the timing, just jump over it.

Posted by Evil Ryu Apprentice on January 25, 2010 at 9:26 a.m. #1129

@lucy

thanks for the advice. warming up for my laggy online play.
I am going to fight to win at all cost

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 25, 2010 at 10:56 a.m. #1130

@ryu apprentice be sure u are watching moves of other characters because u would learn how to puniosh missed attacks my ryu is a defensive spammer I wont people to jump and give them an srk I love my style of play just find urs

Posted by evil ryu apprentice on January 25, 2010 at 12:27 p.m. #1131

@cuttb87 i understand. i just need to train harder.

Posted by Satsui no Hadō ni Mezameta Ryu Apprentice on January 25, 2010 at 1:29 p.m. #1132

Watching african cup of nations, will head out online after that. I am burning with the desire to win.

@ everyone

Why dont we make a guide on how to punish various moves of various characters with Ryu, like which move has priority over which, what move counters which move. VS play tips and such

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 25, 2010 at 3:29 p.m. #1133

Had a greeat time online, won more matches

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 25, 2010 at 6:10 p.m. #1134

@apprentice
decided on a name yet? lol

Well theres info like that on SRK forums. And stuff like that could be a excessive long guide, because certain things can differ due to small differences of timing/spacing blah blah blah blah, so its fairly variable.

As you play, over time u just know (have a gut feeling) when u can do something and what not

Posted by ryu apprentice on January 26, 2010 at 6:20 a.m. #1135

lol! am still an apprentice. i played with vega online and he was funny to use, his ultra is the hardest to land only safe if you land it during a counter like when your opponent is air borne.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 26, 2010 at 12:16 p.m. #1136

Daigo is a sick player, if he was a karate guy he would murder akuma in a sec.

checkk out this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_5BH...

Posted by Doppler on January 26, 2010 at 1:05 p.m. #1137

wtf... why ryu is so powerfull??... no wait... why all the ryu players are so pussy?? all the people tha choce ryu always abuse of her priority and her light shoryuken and then...ultra

so bored I said, light punch, then jump to the other side, cross up medium kick, and then ligh punch or grab

the ryu players sucks, they only win with ryu jajaja xD so sad

Please capcom... degrade ryu's priority because people are so pussy with him!!! xD

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 26, 2010 at 6:21 p.m. #1138

@Doppler I bet u lose alot to Ryu players relax u suck I don't get over it lol Ryu sucked in thirdstrike and I played him at a high level this game is designed differently so he finally get benefited on the gameplay system so I'am taking advantage of it

Posted by ryu apprentice on January 26, 2010 at 9:29 p.m. #1139

@dopp you say that ryu is overated? in what area? he has the least damage average. and if you aint an amature you shouldnt even fall for a shoryu into an ultra besides ryu doesnt have that good of a priority he most of the time trade hits. so in my opinion stop whining and practice/train harder. one more thing ryu is a 'he'

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 26, 2010 at 10:08 p.m. #1140

@Doppler
QQ!!!! lol, i love QQers, they make my day

@Apprentice
actually, you are wrong. He has good damage overall, and HP shoryu definitely has great priority. Yea Ryu is a "HE" lol

Posted by hyperbomb on January 27, 2010 at 1:47 p.m. #1141

I miss my stf 4 game but I seen online yutube where best of the best gets owned by an Akuma player that doesn't run alot lol that use to troll this page talking trash lol btw his Ken and Ryu got owned for taunting

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 27, 2010 at 8:02 p.m. #1142

@hyperbomb I seen the vid and thats how he played me but he had way more lag and he said he got better he plays footsie's better than last time but he is looking to blow ex meter as soon as he gets it still. But I mean the Akuma guy was great I seen all his raging demon set-ups but other than that he make me want to play Akuma but I hate teleporting so I stick with Ryu and his "rushdown" game lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 27, 2010 at 8:20 p.m. #1143

oh what video? i wanna see :D

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 28, 2010 at 9:26 a.m. #1144

what does the G points in windows live stand for?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 28, 2010 at 9:59 a.m. #1145

man I always get whooped with ryu, I played a lot better online with vega. and I have gotten used to the FADC into ultra. I kinda noticed that everyone is used to ryu's tactics online and know how to counter. anyway all is well. who is this great akuma player everyone is talking about.

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 28, 2010 at 4:43 p.m. #1146

Go to the kens page and its like one of the last hyperlinks thats Best put up u can see his skill level and it was a 4 bar connection

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 28, 2010 at 11:35 p.m. #1147

yea everyone knows Ryu's general tactics, and thats his weakness. Regardless, if you play a good Ryu and leave no openings, what does it matter if they know what your tricks are?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 29, 2010 at 12:03 a.m. #1148

ok i just finished the video and my conclusion is:

The akuma was average;
1) knew a few tricks, but theres many more he can use
2) mixups were mediocre
3) did not make use of vortex
4) could of capitalized with more damaging combos
5) random ultras hoping to catch pokes (i would ultra those)

Best' Ken (his Ryu is not even worth mentioning) is average too, but inferior to the akuma (which is proven by the win results);
1) no abuse of kara throw mixup
2) could have capitalized more
3) pressure options were weak
4) no attempt of Ken's ambiguous crossup
5) not much sign of complex ground game/option control

Posted by BEST on January 29, 2010 at 8 a.m. #1149

lol that guy is considered to be one of the best akuma players. If u guys know who edma is, he beat edma. I would do crossup and stuff but that thing is easier said than done lol. Cuz akuma has that teleport thing. I am surprise how u guys analize my game makes me laugh. watch him and edma on youtube if u dont believe me.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 29, 2010 at 11:27 a.m. #1150

Best this, best that, you know its good to once in a while play for fun. pls guys what does the "G" points for and are there any use for them? Am still not good with ryu (due to the lag since I can only get a 1-3 bar at best). as you know ryu never stops training, I wonder he will settle down and have a family very soon ken wont be around anymore (being a daddy and all)?

How would Ryu look like in his mid thirties? I love to imagine him with a neatly trimmed beard

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 29, 2010 at 6:27 p.m. #1151

@ Best wow we should of never mentioned ur name lol am from socal and I know of JR rodgriguez he mains Akuma in like every stf game period. I like his stf3 game a hell of alot better than 4 cuz he still likes to rushdown Akuma buts its a lil harder on this game cuz ur ryu and ken...or anybody can kill Akuma with 1 combo. He is good in 4 but not how he was in 3's cuz of the gameplay mechanics change of the series and his vortex was weak in your match against ur lucky u don't have 3's.

@1886 who ur main character ever since I can remember I always picked ryu so for me to have a deadly ryu again is awesome.. Ot always was Ryu, Guile, and Gouki now Alex n 3's and Akuma in the 3's but always ryu number 1 cuz I protected the sky and had a mean ground game at a young age ( I seen how to use the cr.mk and pimped it lol)

@ Ryu apprentice u must love street fight huh wow do u read the manga series or what?

Posted by Cuttyb87 on January 29, 2010 at 6:36 p.m. #1152

@ Best your ryu game seems to be alot better than ur kens idk but I think why u rely on ken ability to hit more to make stuff seem like a bigger combo but ur ryu footsie game took jr by surprise u should stayed wit it... and ur ken vortex was terrible I don't play ken but when I do I like to step in kick cr.mk fireball fadc cr.mk. ex tastu and dash back or grab or meduim dragon punch... and all that trash u was talking and u got ur ken handled after taunting so my question to u is what have u learned from your match? just watch the video and

Posted by hyperbomb on January 29, 2010 at 6:48 p.m. #1153

@Lucy hey now best didn't suck that badly I give him some credit and what cuttyb said his ryu is better than his kens but they both played the same and ken and ryu are different characters but with the same moves but different game play styles its changes the outcome and he should punish all those empty jumps wit an srk or something my god what was that noob fighter 4 like that srk go. but yea I give his ryu 6 and his ken a 5 suck it best lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 29, 2010 at 7:55 p.m. #1154

the reason i gave his Ryu "not worth mentioning" is cause i see way to many high level ryus, and his just didnt stand out for me. It just looked like any average one. I just wanted to comment Ken cause its his main.

Yes, all those empty jump in... for shame

Ok, that akuma can beat edma once in a while, in a serious match or a casual? So what? lol

I think my standards are just too high... thats my own problem. If i were to talk about my own Ryu, i bet i got way more negative things to point out.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 29, 2010 at 8:30 p.m. #1155

still gotta boast that my Ryu is a lot better tho lmao

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 30, 2010 at 1:15 p.m. #1156

My ryu dominates the My ryumatch from beginning to end I apply pressure his seem to wait a lot more than normal but I guess he needs to either play as ken or ryu full time to break the habits of playing ryu as ken and ken as ryu . He lacks a good rush game with ken he should of used the step in kick more and spam foreballs with ryu he did get better from me playing but we had lag and I picked other people cuz it not worth playin n laggy matches at all

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 30, 2010 at 1:26 p.m. #1157

yea i agree, its just not worth it

Posted by BEST on January 30, 2010 at 4:38 p.m. #1158

lol well just for the record i beat picachu akuma already. I didnt post the one i won. If u guys think ur good come and challenge me.......B3stofthebest...........thats my gamertag.

Posted by hyperbomb on January 30, 2010 at 5:19 p.m. #1159

@ best my first point if u beat him u would of uploaded it period u play him alot so u are going to get him eventually but u should watch the match were u got spanked by him and learn. 2 u still think ur the man in the game when u got smashed and ur not practicing better set-ups for ur "pro" ken lol dude ur a waste return the game and do us a favor.

Ur braging about Pikachu Akuma like he is god in stf4 he is great in three not so much in 4 seen him play at A.I was okay he was okay but not a beast like in 3

Posted by BEST on January 30, 2010 at 9:33 p.m. #1160

@hyperbomb thanks for being my #1 fan

Posted by hyperbomb on January 30, 2010 at 10:57 p.m. #1161

@ Best will will be ur fan cuz all scrubs need encouragement to be a better player so I hope u practice a lot more than u did before JR whipped ur as

Posted by 1886RyuKiller on January 31, 2010 at 1:34 a.m. #1162

@cutty, I main Vega, 2nd Elfuerte, and Kill Ryu

i was just wondering if in SF4 Super he will "have what it takes"

SF4 should be renamed and called "Revenge of Ryu"

and if he still doesnt have what it takes, i just thought the one-button tactical nuke might give him all he thinks it takes..

Posted by Doppler on January 31, 2010 at 7:59 a.m. #1163

I said that ryu has more priority than others players, I play with vega and I won a lot of matches vs ryu, I said he becuse ryu players sometimes are vey pussy, thats the reazon.

I only think this... that inthe next game they must reduce some of his priorities, like they do with sagat or akuma.... only that

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on January 31, 2010 at 9:43 a.m. #1164

how do I learn how to play offensive tactics/game with ryu?

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 31, 2010 at 11 a.m. #1165

All this Ryu hate is funny one guy plays vega and says ryu is pussy lol he plays vega hahah vega gave me a hardtime before until I got more aggressive and learned that a crouching hp beats his dive shenanigans so the hell wit vega.

@ lucy that may be to complex for ryu apprentice I suggest he watch the ryu tutorial on youtube by mickey D or hit training mode and just play to
get his timing down playing online will kill head to head play

Btw what tastu do use for that hk or mk I knowbthe range but which kick to use

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 31, 2010 at 11:21 a.m. #1166

I guess it may not be as simple as i say it is. But apprentice u should still study it a bit, see if u understand, u can always ask if u dont

@Cutty
i guess the mickey D tutorial is a good start (as much as i hate that kid)
I've always the hard one, because i always found the most ambiguous drop trajectories work with the hard tastu. Maybe they all work, i never tried the others, lol.

Good morning btw XD

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 31, 2010 at 11:25 a.m. #1167

gonna head to the arcade in a bit, hopefully there will be people on a sunday afternoon, most likely not tho :(

O well, if there isnt, i can attempt to teach my gf how to play SF4 lol

Posted by Confused Ryu Apprentice on January 31, 2010 at 12:57 p.m. #1168

??????

@lucy
??????
Ok I hate to admit am a lot like Naruto, if you go into technical stuff then I cant follow.
Hmm guess I am going to spend more time on training.

The sad thing is there's no one near to play against and online is really not helping although its fun and I have made some friends online that say am good

@cuttyB87

This game is not like 3s in anyway and its a bit hard to adapt, (i even subconsciously did a universal hit mp+mk hoping to get a FADC)
Lol!

I wish I could play you guys.

Do you know a guy wit the tag LushyLushy?

And what is the G points (not GP) that you get used for?

Posted by cuttyb87 on January 31, 2010 at 3:30 p.m. #1169

@ Ryu apprentice no I don't know Lushylushy y? its not hard because ryu combos in third strike work in 4 so now u have something to build on. Ryu wins fireball wars so start off laying fireball traps and use the cr.mk like no other and u should be fine.

@Lucy u played Mickey D before? or u just don't like him lol

Posted by @Lied on January 31, 2010 at 7:34 p.m. #1170

Ryu keeps saying he still doesnt have what it takes

every strike of his has priority over every other in the game, and he can do 5 special moves, 4 ex moves and ultra ll in one combo

so i am posting in the ryu thread when wondering if we will ever hear the end of his complaining

ryu is a pussy

i kill him everytime

and if you cannot 5 special moves me, 4 ex moves me, and and an ultra to the end of all that, you will die.

but i think its so funny how he can spam a fireball, then add a super, then add an ultra and win

and i think its funny how is massively dominating uppercut allows a guaranteed ultra every single time

and i like how his jabs are rewarded with ultras and supers

and i especially love how people do nothing but tick throw with him every chance they get

i can totally see how he doesnt have what it takes

i suggest a one-button nuke might finally shut him up, and keep him from throwing out the teary-cry-baby face when he throws opponents

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on January 31, 2010 at 9:34 p.m. #1171

@1886
QQ, that is all. :)

@Apprentice
dude... i am LushyLushy (lol)...why? did u see me?
By G points do u mean the G1-C etc? Thats your championship mode division

@Cutty
i never had a chance to play him. At a northwest (in Seattle) SF4 tourny a year ago, i saw him, but he lost to a no name (and back then he was already bragging and full of himself). Ofcourse, we from BC, Canada took the 1st place prize money and then that kid starting talking trash and got his friends from the area to surround the front door of the place like he wanted to beat us up. We just wanted to get back home at the point so we just left from the back door to avoid trouble.
Like seriously, we just went there to play, he didnt have to take it so seriously. Its not like he even got close to the finals

Posted by BEST on January 31, 2010 at 11:12 p.m. #1172

i destroyed Mickey D....hey anyone on here have a xbox so we can get a couple matches.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 1, 2010 at 12:03 a.m. #1173

hey Best, screw online, come down to BC if ur ever near the west coast and play at the arcades for a day

Posted by BEST on February 1, 2010 at 12:07 a.m. #1174

all u guys and girls in here should become more of a analysis instead of a player.

Posted by cuttyb87v on February 1, 2010 at 12:28 a.m. #1175

Lol I think best is getting upset lol u know what I want a fightstick so I can play n the arcades fully so maybe I should invest n 1 the machines around me use the japanese cabinets so maybe I should get that 1.

@ everyone just ignore best from now on he is like a drunk party girl trying to get attention lolbi love family guy or best is like my bottom b!tch you know what am saying

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 1, 2010 at 1:36 a.m. #1176

yea man, sticks are really getting cheap these days. DO IT!

OK maybe this doesnt belong here but i wanna rant a bit. Have you guys seen the Daigo vs Uryo Godsgarden matches? They were insane! Uryo really got Daigo scared, and during the 2nd matches, the way Uryo finished daigo was just rediculous! Cutty, Apprentice and whoever else are my buddies here, go see watch that youtube! lol

Posted by Cuttyb87 on February 1, 2010 at 3:31 p.m. #1177

I seen Uryo now thats one sick Viper lol Lucy u have to get on his level cuz thats the best Viper i have ever seen he destroyed Mago Sagat and Shiro Abel and those are beasts and diago man my Ryu needs to get like that its really fundamental with flair he's ryu is goddy imo

BTW Lucy no disrepect but I respect top players I consider myself a scrub to and I only say that cuz I think he's viper is the best and I never seen urs ... were still cool right?

and what stick u have Lucy

Posted by BEST on February 1, 2010 at 4:21 p.m. #1178

lol lol....cutty u are a scrub thats why i beat u like 7 to 1. dont try to deny it or talk like ur a good player cuz ur not.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 1, 2010 at 4:50 p.m. #1179

Oh ofcourse i not saying im anywhere close to Uryo's level. Hes my inspiration. Though i would say my viper is one of the better in the local arcade scene, im consider myself still a scrub.

As i said b4 cause u asked me so many times, i have the original Madcatz TE (only around 100 bucks now)

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 1, 2010 at 9:13 p.m. #1180

@ Lucy me to man as long as their is a diago i can never be as good as him... btw the look at Number 1180 my b!tch is back lol until he upgrades his net connection our matches will suck

Posted by SHEZ on February 2, 2010 at 2:46 a.m. #1181

I THINK RYU IS A PRETTY GOOD FIGHTER THAN OTHERS

Posted by 1886 on February 2, 2010 at 9:12 a.m. #1182

Vega & El Fuerte

They both take an amazing amount of skill to win with , and alot of effort, and alot of focus and alot of energy

Ryu just uppercuts, fireballs, and tick throws, in that order

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 2, 2010 at 12:32 p.m. #1183

@lucy

really! so you are Lushy Lushy?! how come I played you online once, do you have PC version cos it looks like you can play against someone with an xbox with a pc version.

I got so say I love your crossups, been cracking my brains on how to counter that technique of yours.

oh well I still have quite a long way to go.

@best

oh man, you remind me of rufus always badmouthing ken but in your case ryu. If you hate him so much then it means you aint a top fighter that you so claim, Instead of pouring venom why dont you practice to be able to avoid getting hit with a shoryu + ultra( even as an apprentice rarely do I fall for that)

as for originality and style well ryu has alot of those,
eg: ex tatsumaki+ex shoryu+fadc(backwards) into ultra

cmon my friend hate the players and not RYU.

@lucy(again)

what time do you normally play online mine's 9:29PM (current time at this moment) - 12:00AM.
you are quite good and I believe I can still learn from you.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 2, 2010 at 4:02 p.m. #1184

damn do I want a match with Lucy also I play shin arnoldo but he is practing with his fight stick te edition so I all alon but if I get a version I can play Pc?

Posted by Ovi on February 2, 2010 at 9:34 p.m. #1185

We play to win. It doesn't matter if i have to repeat the exact same move or not, i need to win and i will do what ever it takes. Boring, no-creativity is just another word for loser.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 2, 2010 at 10:07 p.m. #1186

I am not sure but I think lucy has the xbox version and I have the PC version and he is on my friend list on windows live and I have even played with him then I think its possible. so cutyb87 are you on xbox and whats your gamertag? mine is ryuapprentice

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 3, 2010 at 11:16 a.m. #1187

well I DID play ya, if I didnt I wouldnt send a friend request. actually you are the only one I ever got a three bar connection against(lol!)
Nice to see you are mopping the floor with Viper (never played with her though except to unlock someone)

Posted by cuttyb on February 3, 2010 at 1:52 p.m. #1188

I like viper players her mixup game is the best n the game long range to short she is a beast I think people hate on ryu cuz they lose to him a lot and complain I had probs wit rog, gief, sagat and vega but I hit the practice mode and work on what was beating me and I conquered them all

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 3, 2010 at 6:23 p.m. #1189

i still have problem with good rogs, but not as much as before, i would have to say it is still one of my harder matchups.

@Apprentice
i sent you a friend request a long time ago, thats why

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 3, 2010 at 7:59 p.m. #1190

@ Lucy rog has alot more pokes then ryu rireball traps and nice zones and frustrate him and then cuz for jumpins then srks will being I beat Rogs and Hondas the same way don't let them get in but u have to alot of walking back and for to bait tho

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 4, 2010 at 12:06 p.m. #1191

@eventhubs

Pls guys can we cut off the older posts on this thread, I am having difficulty scrolling on my mobile and besides posts dated as far as june 2009 isnt really that important anymore isit?

@lucy

after a whiffed shinryuken is it possible to use jump mp twice then followed by a shoryuken(not ex)? saw it in a comboo tutoriall(tool assisted)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 4, 2010 at 5:16 p.m. #1192

@Cutty
yea i know thats the general strategy, but i mean really good rogs that zone the sh!t outa you just by pacing back and forth and bait ur pokes/hados. Cause rog is almost like a counter pick for ryu lol I can handle them, im just saying its hard.

@Apprentice
after i whiffed ken ultra? well i dont think u can cause normal shoryu has no juggling ability... why would u want to do that anyway? just wait till he drops and hurt him good :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 4, 2010 at 9:02 p.m. #1193

Go for the win and the flair just comes out just look at Diago no flair just basics and some cool stuff just happens

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 4, 2010 at 9:22 p.m. #1194

For The Win! :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 6, 2010 at 3:42 a.m. #1195

sadly, i didnt do so well today. Wasnt really mainting much of streak with viper, with highest of 4, so i started playing Ryu and was only able to get small streaks

Posted by remy1337 on February 6, 2010 at 4:55 p.m. #1196

Does the in air double MP(if it connects) put you in a position to juggle?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 6, 2010 at 8:38 p.m. #1197

yes, u can juggle with ex fireball/super/ultra. Obviously it would be most beneficial to connect an ultra after

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 7, 2010 at 6:59 a.m. #1198

The juggles give ryu more ultra potential he has always had those moves so now he is over powered juggles are always get real what. About rufus I think he is super overpowered

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 7, 2010 at 12:07 p.m. #1199

I notice that top players gain the edge on life by using their normals to bait and to cuz massive damage on people who are trying to smash into ultras and supers maybe offline it will work but the lag online suck.
with my ryu if I jumpin I hit u until ur far enough so I can dashback and wait for ur move if no move I continue to rush down I play Guile way differently than ryu but my guile shown me somethings

@Ryu Apprentice Remy plays kind of like Guile in thirdstrike huh

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 7, 2010 at 1:51 p.m. #1200

yea, if people seem like they are mashing, then i would bait it.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 8, 2010 at 8:25 p.m. #1201

I wish u had to hold back to maintain ur block but since u can smash out of the dp that's stupid but u can tell who's doing what wit certain characters

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 8, 2010 at 10:11 p.m. #1202

yea i completely agree. No matter what, my win ratio with viper just doesnt match up to my Ryu... its saddening T^T

Posted by cuttyb on February 9, 2010 at 9:27 a.m. #1203

@Lucy yea man its weird maybe cuz ryu has more hp than viper or maybe cuz of match-ups my Guile is getting better faster than my ryu's but I win more wit Ryu lol but tyring abel its seems u have to know his block strings for him to be effective tho

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 10, 2010 at 4:45 p.m. #1204

well when it comes down to characters like viper and abel, it really comes down how you option pressure. Except the different with viper is that excecution is at the most difficult level in this game.

With Guile, you dont need to mix up much. You just try to keep your opponent out for as long as u can, when they get close, poke them like no tomorrow with standing fierce, crMK.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 11, 2010 at 9:54 a.m. #1205

yea Lucy ur right but Abel is getting better I watched Rico Suave abel and I notice some things that he do is really effective like his poke strings tornado throw but I'am assuming that he is doing a light tornado throw but I don't know yet

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 11, 2010 at 3:07 p.m. #1206

Abel is definitely one of the really effective characters in the game if you know how to use him.

Its probably hp throw, because it does the most damage, most stun, least recovery. It just kinda makes the light and medium versions useless lol

Posted by Cuttyb87 on February 11, 2010 at 7:35 p.m. #1207

I think its the lp tt cuz its faster and people get caught by it and its has nice range but Abel is a new project am working on cuz supposedly he is like Alex but he but he is more of a mind game lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 11, 2010 at 8:47 p.m. #1208

The perfeThe perfup for the kara throw irct set us to do two light cr lp and the S.HK kara grab it works so well its a lil more range but its perfect tho

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 12, 2010 at 2:47 a.m. #1209

i still have practiced Ryu's kara throw much. In fact, i havnt been trying to learn much new stuff with Ryu, been just working on my viper to get fast/precise execution. Playing her makes my fingers cramp = ="

I've always played a fairly solid abel, so if u have any questions on him, i can help you out.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 12, 2010 at 12:37 p.m. #1210

He is a character that fun to play but limited in the ways you play him so he is a mixed bag so I like the lp change of direction fadc cr.hp thats hard to do is it a double dash or just dash once?

and his hard trial number three is hard also S mk. dash I keep double dashing lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 12, 2010 at 9:37 p.m. #1211

Just played and I was using akuma and I notice that he misses links like s hk into cr mk at a long distance if am close I srk but far cr mk into fireball but is it me or what messin it up

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 13, 2010 at 3:58 a.m. #1212

me @ arcade loopin the akuma loop on sagat all day :D abels awsome too, had 6 win streak with him today too.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 13, 2010 at 7:35 a.m. #1213

But my prob wit Akuma is that what's safe after landing the S HK sometimes. My opponents blocks the cr.mk but close enough I do a lp shoryuken fadc red fireball

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 13, 2010 at 12:52 p.m. #1214

after the double kick, if you watch your distance, link a crLK or a jab, or a little more damage you can link crMP (slightly more difficult) and then go into light tastu and connect a shoryu / mixup from there

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 13, 2010 at 2:58 p.m. #1215

Its a distance thing I figured it out but I seen what ryu can have to be even better he has no real mix. Or vortex I would give him the fake fireball like n hd remix the hop kick is to good for him the fake fireball is perfect

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 14, 2010 at 12:24 p.m. #1216

HELP!

I AM BEING BULLIED BY CAMMY! DAMN HER AND HER SPIRAL ARROW. pls what is option select?
sorry I havent been online for some time. am no longer improving in my ryu play. I guess I canot become the best street fighter player in the world.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 14, 2010 at 5:05 p.m. #1217

@Ryu apprentice cammpy is a rushdown demon lol space her with fireballs and footsie game u should be fine those overly aggressive cammy's give my Akuma probs due to low health tho

not to sure about option select tho

Posted by Cuttyb87 on February 14, 2010 at 9:27 p.m. #1218

@ Lucy I still haven't seen the video of Uryo and diago whats the link and whats option select the buffer of 1 move to another right?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 15, 2010 at 10:05 p.m. #1219

this is the amazing one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0P-kb...

@Apprentice
against cammy, stay within crMK range, generally u can do that all day (crMK to hado). Or if u happen to be end up full screen, just CAREFULLY throw hados to get her to you. If she has EX at full screen, almost definitely she will try to get in with a ex hooligan throw. You can light shoryuken those to ultra if timed properly

@Cutty
option select is imputing several commands for one situation and letting the system decide the best option in your favour (for example: from a safe jump in Hard kick you can input a shoruken, kara throw) so what happens is:
1) if the hard kick whiffs (from opponent doing invulnerable wakeup special) the shoryuken would come a bit late and probably beat out the attack.
2) If they throw, you will tech
3) If your hard kick connects, you are free to combo and all your other inputs did nothing

This is also known as the daigo option select, it is only one of many useful option selects in the game!

Yes, it is probably confusing...

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 16, 2010 at 6:13 a.m. #1220

I do that diago option select method it seems tom really safe I will practice it how valuable is learning option selects? And in the vid Uryo made Diago look bad lol but I guess we all have matchup probs people wit a strong mixup game seem to have an advantage over diago

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 17, 2010 at 1:59 a.m. #1221

yea Uryo kinda did. But honestly i gotta say that ending was completely bewildering.

Option selects is definitely a tool you want to have up your sleeve because you dont have to do as much thinking/reacting to get yourself in a beneficial or safer situation.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 17, 2010 at 2:07 p.m. #1222

yea Diago played like a real scrub there didn't he jumping up and down like a noob lol it happens to the best of us ..he can destroy alot of people but like mix-up characters like Shiro and Uryo he got served lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 17, 2010 at 6:23 p.m. #1223

actually, jumping up and down is one of the best ways to zone against a viper. It is much easier for viper to do damage and get in through mixups if someone is trying to defend on the ground.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 18, 2010 at 9:29 a.m. #1224

My plan against viper is to ground her wit minimal jump ins cuz she has no defense and I just limit her air options with light srks trade juggle ex/ super/ultra

Posted by ryu apprentice on February 18, 2010 at 10:34 a.m. #1225

Viper, well this is africa and I haven't played anyone, I think viper is powerful character, although the ai is predictable. So anything new on Ryu. Who is Hakan? I wish they included sean as dan's rival in ssf4. Why did they chabge ryu's hp srk to two hit? I had this crazy idea for Akuma ultra, first he jumps up then slide kick gut punch into uppercut sending the opponent flying then while the opponent is in the air he then slams his fist into the ground causing an eruption that hits the vulnerable opponent who is landing.

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 18, 2010 at 1:53 p.m. #1226

we haven't seen Hakan yet so I don't know but it looks like I will be playing Dudley a little bit more than ususal but they changed the srk cuz alot of people complained that it made ryu cheap a bunch of scrubs man it really doesn't matter cuz Keno said Ryu plays the same

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 18, 2010 at 7:25 p.m. #1227

In a way, the double hit shoryuken actually makes ryu better, because it allows ryu to break through saving armor, and other ex hyper armor attacks. I will be playing Juri, and Makoto if i feel like it, but her sprite looks a bit lame

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 18, 2010 at 10:15 p.m. #1228

Yea I think dudley and cody and adon for those characters are nice but am surprise am excited to use dudley

Posted by rizzzzy on February 19, 2010 at 12:11 p.m. #1229

how

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 19, 2010 at 2:58 p.m. #1230

Dudley is a rushdown charcter wit a lot of mixup options so I think I can destroy button smashers

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 20, 2010 at 9:27 a.m. #1231

I think that CPU is the worst sparring partners you can have. they just rush down and has no taste for tactics and strategy.

For some reason I still prefer third strike than stf4 because of the parries.

mixup rarely works on computer controlled fighters, they like know where to block and stuff.

why didnt they include Gill in SSTF4 I would have loved him to be in the game lol!

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 20, 2010 at 10:46 a.m. #1232

I do won't a hard secret boss to fight at the end of this game cuz I feel it will remind us of how the first time we beat shin akuma in super turbo but I have a question if I was option selecting a cr.mk into shoryuken would we still trade am whiffing it but auto correct helps out a lot lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 20, 2010 at 12:36 p.m. #1233

Shin Akuma. That brings back a lot of memories, I first fought him on alpha 3 with Evil Ryu and in my opinion was a classic, after the fight I was literally shaking (I was fighting for the 25th time) and was like "I beat him! I really beat him!". Those days are what made fighting in street fighter fun.

Unlocking stuff is insane in STF4 just finished the survival and time attack both normal and hard.

Pls how do I do fake kick with sagat?

Hey cuttyb87 so you like dudley? I couldn't figure out how to use him.

Block strings don't work on computer, they always focus attack and how on earth can you do a cross up against blanka?

How do you know you are a professional player with ryu?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 20, 2010 at 3:56 p.m. #1234

you know you are professional with ryu if u take him to a tournament and go home with money lol

On the pc version, u can use cheat engine to unlock everything in about 20 seconds :D

To do fake kick with sagat, u "double tap" HK, so you put two fingers over the button, have one finger slightly higher so that finger presses it like a millisecond after the first finger

Posted by cuttyb877 on February 20, 2010 at 7:34 p.m. #1235

Don't try to crossup blanka its impossible he has the electric field.am getting ready for super street fighter but its still all about evil ryu lol and ryu but in alpha 3 shin akuma was a pain so was in super turbo but ryu will be my main forever lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 20, 2010 at 9:45 p.m. #1236

Honestly to be pro is getting paid am no pro I have a solid ryu and I play a defensive ryu and basic ryu but if I can land cr.lp cr.lp hp shoryuken more I will go pro I need more ways to land ultras and to create openings any advice on connecting the link?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 21, 2010 at 5:43 a.m. #1237

You can punish kens hurricane kick when blocked,
1: block the first hit
2:press down to crouch(you'll still be in block stun)
3: input shoryuken for the reversal
Feel free to fadc into ultra

Reversal shoryuken can also punish blocked light punch shoryuken

Hope this helps...

@lucy

What is the way to unlock everything?

I am not pro. I still don't have what it takes, I must train harder.

Have a nice week guys

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 21, 2010 at 2:14 p.m. #1238

Lol ryu apprentice ur funny

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 21, 2010 at 7:14 p.m. #1239

Need help connecting cr lp into hp shoryuken help

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 21, 2010 at 8:35 p.m. #1240

@apprentice
here, watch this video, itll teach you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6km8-V...

@Cutty
if ur having problems doing the link itself, then just practice, not much i can help with.
but if you want to get that link in, start with a crLK, because it hits low and is easier to hit with.
So therefore: crLK, crLP, HP shoryu

personally, if i hit the crLP right next to my opponent, i'll got for bigger, like: crLK, crLP, crHP, HP shoryu

Posted by hendrix on February 22, 2010 at 2:52 a.m. #1241

add me on ps3 jhendrix60 and ill show u ppl what a real ryu is like ... and happy to help u with any info frame data worth while combos for ryu that dont destroy ur damage scalling etc drop me a line on ps3 network

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 22, 2010 at 7:40 a.m. #1242

@jhendrix60 ill add u once I get back am out of town I be back in march where do u live anyway

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 22, 2010 at 9:03 p.m. #1243

@hendrix
ohhhh, another big talker here!

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 23, 2010 at 1:58 a.m. #1244

@Lucy.ElfenLied

LOL! yeah. another big shot. On the scale of things, he seems to remind me of Dan.

on to better things, thanks for the video.

missed playing third strike, so I didnt play SF4 yesterday.

I think I have reached my limit with Ryu I cant seem to improve anymore. below is a rough profile of myself, if there is anything that I can add to my game let me know.

Playing Style: Turtle mostly

Can FADC quite well

Comfortable with crossup (just that I can only whip out a three hit after cross up)

Can Use throws to my advantage

A 'C' ranking in firball traps.

Still not able to stop throwing out random light punch shoryken

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 23, 2010 at 11:38 a.m. #1245

Hey guys check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWgHUX...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7tfWU...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNL9nu...

These guys are really creative with their ideas for an alternate costume, I love the Vega look and The fei long. I know that Ryu should probable grow a beard buy c'mon if its gonna look like that I will personally shave it with a chain saw

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 23, 2010 at 11:56 a.m. #1246

I am getting the fei long costume ASAP

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 23, 2010 at 7:53 p.m. #1247

i actually already have a few mods myself.

A few cool different costumes here and there but some worth mentioning that i did was

i changed viper's lightning and fire kicks purple
Adidas Ryu (im an Adidas fan)
Rufus into Majin Buu; totally awsome!
Rei (from Evangelion) custome for Cammy

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 24, 2010 at 12:28 a.m. #1248

@lucy

how on earth do you make those mods
do you have to install a software or what?

pls tell me

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 24, 2010 at 4:19 a.m. #1249

I never knew that costumes have a serious effect on one's choice of characters. I am know playing with fei long and I am enjoying every minute of it.

I am now using ryu with a japan theme outfit with jeans trousers, he looks sweet.

Posted by Vin on February 24, 2010 at 5:56 p.m. #1250

how do you in the air, block cancel your fall? i've done it before but don't know how i did it. for example u get hit in the air and u stop yourself from falling

Posted by Lucy.ELfenLied on February 24, 2010 at 6:19 p.m. #1251

@Apprentice
I suppose to figured out how to do the mods, so no point for me explaining. Well, the costumes get old after a while, the first little bit is fun though ^^

@Vin
have no idea what ur talking about, block cancel fall? o.o

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 25, 2010 at 3:04 a.m. #1252

Lol!, what he meant was air resets. Thats auto depending on what move that hit ya

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 25, 2010 at 9:48 a.m. #1253

Yea sometimes some moves can leave u in a juggle state and some moves restart the whole thing I prefer juggle to begin my mix-up but to each his own right?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 a.m. #1254

cuttyB87 where have you been?

I just watched auto select and I think its awesome, will incoporate that into my game. so I guess you're gonna main dudley in SSF4. me its Ryu and Fei long all the way.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on February 25, 2010 at 7:41 p.m. #1255

I have been busy trying to link srk's into fadc man I been on the site tho trolling lol but I see alpha and Adon plays like viper minus the fire and the cancel he can also do a jaguar kick after and medium kick so we shall see if Lucy switches mains

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 26, 2010 at 1:01 a.m. #1256

LOL!

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz...
(Bruce Lee oh I meant Fei Long
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz... (Ryu Japanese Street Style)
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz... (Metsu Hadoken with new costume)

These are screen shots from my PC version.
Cool Isnt it. wish I knew how to make custom outfits

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 26, 2010 at 2:22 a.m. #1257

http://s839.photobucket.com/albums/zz...

This is my street fighter screen shots, its worth checking out

Posted by lol on February 26, 2010 at 3:21 a.m. #1258

the things i like about ryu are he has the most heart i have ever seen compared to other fighters, he never gives up continues training to get stronger, he's not a pissabout he takes things seriously unlike ken and he is the main character in sf series.

the things i dont like about ryu is he's slow in sf4 and his look has changed and looks more or less like hulk.

overall: Ryu is a good fighter

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 26, 2010 at 4:35 a.m. #1259

switch mains to adon? NO WAY!!! The point of viper is the cancels and fancy stuff man! Which is why im excited to add Juri to one of my characters cause shes got crazy cancels, resets, and mixups. Plus she has colorful and flashy looking attacks lmao. Screw adon, hes ugly!

On a side note:
I taught my gf to hadoken spam and do random normals when they get near lmao.
Then i also taught her to dash punch and standing roundhouse and sweep with Balrog

Its pretty funny to watch her complain as i force her to play XD

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 26, 2010 at 5:09 a.m. #1260

No comment on the pics. lol! your gf playing street fighter, wow, kinda funny

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLIed on February 26, 2010 at 1:39 p.m. #1261

ive seen a lot of mods, so they arent too suprising for me. The Japanese style ryu is pretty dope though :D

Well yea, cause she watches me play at the arcade, so i want her to learn to play too instead of being bored like all other gfs at arcades = ="

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 26, 2010 at 4:27 p.m. #1262

Hey I will play adon and I should get sst4 on the 360 so I can beat ur juri wit my adon lol I use to go buy the name adon's friend remember

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 26, 2010 at 11:54 p.m. #1263

Oh yea, i forgot about that! lmao

Aight, i might be buying an xbox360 sometime if i find one real cheap

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 27, 2010 at 10:27 a.m. #1264

Lol we need to get shin arnoldo but he playing constantly playing wit his te stick lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 27, 2010 at 10:59 a.m. #1265

HURRAY!

Ryu finally changed his outfit.

Did Anyone notice that his clothes in third strike is less worn than stf 4.

Oh well just feeling out of sorts recently.

Just watched a video of daigo being whooped by e honda, the guy punished the heck out of daigo for throwing one fireball too many

Posted by cuttyb87 on February 27, 2010 at 5:12 p.m. #1266

sstf4 is coming out in 1 month and I may switch to the mestsu shoryuken because I don't think u guys noticed this but it looks like it will hurt...alot lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 27, 2010 at 10:18 p.m. #1267

@Apprentice
He bought a new set of close after SF4 for SF3s? lol

@Cutty
We'll see

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 28, 2010 at 3:39 a.m. #1268

yeah and it looks a lot whiter, lol.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on February 28, 2010 at 6:12 a.m. #1269

lucy I want to spar with ya! when will you be online

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on February 28, 2010 at 4:21 p.m. #1270

ill be on today, just send me a msg when ur on and if im off, tell me when u want me on

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 1, 2010 at 1:07 a.m. #1271

ok I will leave you a message on windows live when I am on. I just pray that the connection will be good enough.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 1, 2010 at 4:53 p.m. #1272

well if connection is crappy, i guess i dont mind playing a few just to see your playing style and such

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 2, 2010 at 12:24 a.m. #1273

Thanks man, I am training my ass off to fight you, I anticipate that you will be my strongest opponent yet. but I dont understand something, there is a guy i played against, even though it was a bar of connection the lag wasnt noticeable and i played someone else with three bars and it was laggy like hell.

anyway I always seem to win more matches online with vega, although cammy beat me (damn her) and viper almost made my life a living hell (focus absorbed my wall jump move) although I still won, my bp is still low 789, so I am training so you wont whip me perfect in all the rounds (lol)

so which time do no play most of the time (in GMT)?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 2, 2010 at 1:03 a.m. #1274

lol, dont stress it man, just playing for fun ya?

Well theres two kinds of lag;
1. connection delay: so stuff doesnt come out till some time after inputting, this can screw over your timing on combos, punishes and just about everything.

2. someone's pc sucks and runs on a low fps: this will make the game look really slow and draggy, also affects gameplay the same way

I dont really know what time GMT, and i really dont have a set time i play anyway. I tend to play around 7-9 pacific time (-7GMT? dont remember)

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 2, 2010 at 3:06 a.m. #1275

ok. I guess our paths will cross online sometime, just beat some guy with zangief and he disconnected his connection before I could get my points(why dont people learn that you dont stand close to gief if he has an ultra?)

My ryu isnt doing so well online.

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on March 2, 2010 at 10:46 p.m. #1276

yea i would say Ryu has a disadvantage with bad connections.

But dont wry about people disconnecting, you still get the points because it counts as you win (if your opponent d'ced)

These are characters who i think have a lot of advantage during a laggy game:
Zangeif, Balrog, Rufus, Blanka, Bison

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 3, 2010 at 12:48 a.m. #1277

Yeah you're right, zangief is really good with the lag, unless if you want to input ultra and you get a jump punch instead, lol!

Trying to learn guile but he is not as fluid as charlie is in alpha 3, why dont they want to include charlie like they did gouken and cook up a story that he was injured and found by a local girl that took care of him. Love Charlies flash kick (more like reverse flash kick.)

Posted by cuttyb87 on March 3, 2010 at 12:20 p.m. #1278

H the lag a turtle akuma gives me probs like hell and viper players only wit lagWit but other than that fighting gief in laggy matches is terrible I stopped picking abel cuz I hated laggy internet matches and abel needs to be precise arcades all the way

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 3, 2010 at 10:10 p.m. #1279

A lot of the time, if the connection is 3-4 bars, i still refuse to use Viper because a slightly screw up in execution can cost me all my life lmao.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 4, 2010 at 12:35 a.m. #1280

oh well I am used to the lag, am still baffled they keep giving ryu metsu moves, Is he going to satsui no hado again, metsu hadoken is the evil version of the shinkuu hadoken and metsu hadoken is tapping into satsui no hado, why are they corruption ryu for me

Posted by lol on March 4, 2010 at 1:32 a.m. #1281

@ryu apprentice

Hey dude do u have psn???

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 4, 2010 at 6:32 a.m. #1282

No I dont have psn,

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 4, 2010 at 5:51 p.m. #1283

@Apprentice
You asked me how you can improve your skills on AIs, and there is mainly two points that you can improve on:

Usually, the AI follows similar patterns, but can still be different. Therefore, you can practice your reaction on specific moves that you see the computer do for counter hits, anti-air shoryukens, and most importantly, improving your reaction time (and knowing what to react with) in those given situations. Ofcourse, the AI is limited to his programming therefore will not do things like a human, but at least your can have some more experience with reacting with the right move at right time.

Number two, just practice combo execution in general. Computers block, tech, focus on random usually, so you can learn your hit confirmation. So if they block, know immediately what block string you want to do for your advantage. If you hit, know what combo you want to hit him with, either for damage or tactical advantage. It will help your combo execution and hit confirmation be more accurate when playing real people, this is for sure

Hope this helped!

Posted by cal on March 4, 2010 at 7:56 p.m. #1284

Ryu has a similar hard punch ambiguous cross up as Ken, but it is not mentioned here as it is highlighted in Ken's guide

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 4, 2010 at 10:40 p.m. #1285

Because the spacing of it is much, MUCH harder than Ken's. I get it rarely by accident only

Posted by cuttyb on March 4, 2010 at 10:43 p.m. #1286

@ cal ur right but the ambigous cross up is the exact same thing but remember Ryu. Mix up game is okay so ur opponent may be expecting it so I do the mk as a cross over move but the hard punch range is different learn it

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 5, 2010 at 1:38 a.m. #1287

@lucy

Thanks for the advice, I will get right on it ASAP.

@cutty

except if your opponent is Blanka lol!

Posted by lol on March 5, 2010 at 1:51 a.m. #1288

@lucy

DO you have psn im a pretty good ken player.

Posted by lol on March 5, 2010 at 1:57 a.m. #1289

whats the relationship between gen and akuma?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 5, 2010 at 5:06 a.m. #1290

well as the story goes...

Akuma master of the fist seeks out only strong opponents like himself to fight

Gen is a practicioner of assasins fist used for killing and is terminally ill and looking forward to die in battle to a worthy opponent

Akuma is a worthy opponent in the eyes of Gen
Gen unlike Ryu has no problem with fighting to kill, in other words he will fight Akuma and take him to the limits

add those two together and you have an Ultimate Fight to the Death which is the dream of both of them.

So that's the relationship.

Posted by cuttyb87 on March 5, 2010 at 9:54 a.m. #1291

Akuma will fight to kill but would he fight ken? cuz ken and ryu are the same basically so would akuma consider ken for a fight to the death? he tried to kill gouken cuz gouken could have beatin him but gouken took the high road and let him win and ryu is the only 1 that can kill him... but akuma never fought sagat? he should that would be a great fight lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 5, 2010 at 11:11 a.m. #1292

well, cannonically Akuma hasnt fought sagat, but I dont think that Sagat can square with Akuma, lets face it Sagat is strong but Akuma (Devil) or Gouki (Demon) is almost like possesed with the satsui no hado, and most of the fights he fought cannon wise he never lost

Against Ryu, he just tested him and let him go when he split the Island in two

Against Gen, He almost beat Gen but discovered he was ill and left

Against his master he won and killed him

Against Gouken he won but Gouki emptied himself of all emotion and his soul as not to be killed by the shun goku satsu.

He even pulled off a Shin Goku Satsu on Gill (in my opinion the greatest boss in the series) but Gill had the uncanny ability to ressurect.

Against Oro, they just sparred and tested their strengths.

Against Bison (we all know how that ended) after the battle bison had to form another body to be able to feature in SF4

And he did all these as Akuma not Shin Akuma.

Against you know what happened when Ryu tapped a little into satsui no hado (the scar on Sagat's chest)

Sagat is strong but I dont think he can beat Akuma.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 5, 2010 at 11:14 a.m. #1293

and on a side note, he fought ken once and didnt waste time in beating him ( you can argue that due to the alpha days ken was not his strongest)

Posted by cuttyb87 on March 5, 2010 at 3:32 p.m. #1294

I thought he can only perform the satsu no hado as shin akuma in the canon? Cuz the story goes he killed bison and then the street fighter 2 he had the ability to throw to fire balls out of the sky faster and stronger then in as shin Akuma he has more hit in the satsu and he is fastewr and way stronger

In stf2 you fight shin akuma and in all the other stf games u only fight hikm if u dismantle everyone else

But Akuma steals moves he stole Kens shroryuken and Goukens Gouresen

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 5, 2010 at 7:56 p.m. #1295

well aside from story (which i dont care about) Akuma is actually sagat's worst matchup due to Akuma's effective mixup and loop combo.

I might play Ibuki instead of Makoto in SSF4 because Ibuki looks like a fun character with good mixups that may play similarily to Akuma.

I dont understand why you guys are so interested with the story of SF... i just want to play lmao

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 6, 2010 at 1:22 a.m. #1296

@cutty

Akuma has always used satsui no hado but he witholds himself from using it completely in order not to end the battle prematurely, as shin akuma he is fully fighting with the satsui no hado and doesnt care if he kills you in a split second.

He didnt steal Kens shoryuken, Ken has shoryuken his is Go-Shoryuu, ken has Shoryuu-Reppa Akuma has Messatsu Gou Shoryuu, in each case Akuma's does more damage than Ken.

About Goken since they both trained together they inevitably have to share some moves, Akuma can only do Messatsu Gou Ransen (with a much deeper focus of energy) while Gouken can do it painlessly.

Posted by cuttyb on March 6, 2010 at 3:51 a.m. #1297

@ ryu oky that makes sense they all practice the same way of fighting and it makes sense for the killing intent to take over akuma but how come gouken never sufferef signs of it?

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 6, 2010 at 4:43 a.m. #1298

Originally Gotetsu (Akuma and Goukens Master) wanted to train both of them in the ways of ansatsuken(hope I got it right)a fighting style rooted in the assasination arts and uses satsui no hado (surge of murderous intent) to maximize its potential,

but when Gouken saw that the style was meant to kill he rejected the style but instead created a version of the style without the killing intent while Akuma embraced satsui no hado completely due to his insatiable hunger for power up to the extent of killing Gotetsu (which Gotetsu was happy that his pupil surpassed him in the use of satsui no hado)

Gouken had no issues due to the fact that he has never fought for the sole purpose of winning but rather for enlightenment, but Ryu succumbed to the satsui no hado whenever the urge of winning at all cost was present.

Posted by loraa on March 6, 2010 at 11:47 a.m. #1299

chup randi k bachoon

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 7, 2010 at 12:24 a.m. #1300

@Apprentice

i love your SF knowledge, its always fun to read &^^

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 7, 2010 at 8:18 a.m. #1301

@cutty

lol! thanks for the complement, How was your weekend?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 7, 2010 at 5:35 p.m. #1302

it was kinda boring :/

and dont try to play ryu without fireballs... it defeats the purpose of him and you wont be able to win against any decent player

Posted by Doppler on March 7, 2010 at 6:40 p.m. #1303

hadouken hadouken hadouken hadouken hadouken is the only sound that I listen in a vs ryu match

pussy ryus

ryus is for beginners who need a character overpowered

Posted by cuttyb87 on March 7, 2010 at 11 p.m. #1304

@ryu did u say have a good weekend to me or Lucy.. Today March 7 is my bday so now I'm 23 and I was playing online for a bit and was called a shoto scrub cuz I did 2 wake up dragon punches because I saw a bison stand over me. Then he had the nerve to say Biso needs a buff I fel Bison is fine as is but who am I...Btw I used a Akuma he luck I didnt fight him wit Ryu...

@ Ryu apprentice I think Akuma is Ryu father what do u think? Cuz they blood line of the evil intent is in Ryu also

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 8, 2010 at 12:13 a.m. #1305

@cutty

Akuma is not Ryu's Father, although it was rumored to be but capcom said that there is no biological relationship between both even though they have striking similarities

Akuma

1.Master of the Fist
2.Uses satsui no hado
3.Seeking out top fighters

Ryu
1.Always focused on training to improve
2.Fights to find meaning
3.Posseses satsui no hado but unwilling to use it

Even in the anime, there was a suggestion that he was his father when the boy that claimed to be Ryu's brother also has satsui no hado and Ryu had to seek out akuma to find out if he was the father
But the anime wasnt cannon so its not official.

So basically in capcoms view satsui no hado is the latent power that is awakened when there is a terrible desire to win and a far terrible fear to lose.

If you ask me I would think that they are related though.

and HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAN!! BY MAY I WILL ALSO BE 23 LOL!

@lucy

saw the replay of your G1 finals match, man how on earth do you pull of those links! lol, the match made me think twice about fighting you, haha. but I guess I only have to learn from you first, learning from daigo is not really my thing.

and to think you are in the top 1500 street fighters online while me am at 25000. phew what a long way to go.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 8, 2010 at 1 a.m. #1306

@lucy

pls check if there is any replay match from me, you should find it through the leaderboards. Though due to the lag those wont be my best but it has the core of my game play

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on March 8, 2010 at 2:19 a.m. #1307

@Cutty
HAPPY BDAY !!!! :D

@Apprentice
oh... that replay of me, i just rewatched it... erg... i still remember how laggy that game was.... i feel disgusted just by thinking of it = ="

I tried looking for your replays, but for some reason i cant find any of you. :/

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 8, 2010 at 3:52 a.m. #1308

ouch! is my ratings that low that they couldnt even upload my games?!

anyway thats fine, no sweat. was that finals laggy? wow it didnt show in your reflex to combos and blocking that ehonda's ass drop move, thanks for showing how to block it, i didnt know you should block that move high.

anyways I think u can find my replays under ranked matches and in your friends column.

I was desperately looking for where I measured up a bit to you and luckily in the arcade scores we are at 700000+

but in the others you are far far far far far far far far far far far far far away.

Posted by cuttyb87 on March 8, 2010 at 11:04 a.m. #1309

Since I been playin my Akuma has gotten way better I mix-up way more now but I hate vipers cuz we both fly so much lol tried Bison but he isn't as dynmaic as Viper next stop C Viper watch out Lucy I will be the best Viper lol

Posted by Lucy.ELfenLied on March 9, 2010 at 12:07 a.m. #1310

@Apprentice
ok i will try looking again
and yea, championship mode gets really laggy cause you can only seem to find people with 1 or 2 bar connection, which is why i dont even bother playing champ mode anymore, just player and ranked

@Cutty
i look forward to our vipers meeting on the battlefield one day :D

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on March 9, 2010 at 4:03 a.m. #1311

@lucy

no sweat man

@cutty
viper all the way man!

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 9, 2010 at 6 a.m. #1312

did you know that during their training that Ken learned his moves faster than Ryu, even though Ryu trained harder than Ken, also Ken focused on improving his Shoryuken to the extent that flames accompany his shoryuken and he even had his own move Shinryuuken, Ryu focused on the Hado principle and thats why he has alot of fireball moves, Hadoken, flame Hadoken, Shinkuu Hadoken, Metsu Hadoken.

Posted by LushyLushy on March 9, 2010 at 6:27 p.m. #1313

ok this is lucy... whats with the bs that we have to log in to comment = ="

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 10, 2010 at 10:48 a.m. #1314

@lucy

here is Ryu on you tube, Its against PC on the hardest difficulty, help me point out weaknesses in my game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAryGj...

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 10, 2010 at 11:04 a.m. #1315

playing with Akuma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNc7ZH...

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 10, 2010 at 11:24 a.m. #1316

some more videos of me in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H9_NV... (Akuma)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7lNSn... (Ryu vs Guile)

@lucy

be gentle when criticizing

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 10, 2010 at 11:45 a.m. #1317

Ryu's Medium and Hard Dragon Punches hit twice now. Damage is down on it, but if you Focus Attack Dash Cancel, you only get one hit from it, so damage is down even farther. Trades into Ultra from Dragon Punches are gone, and most trades into Ultra from Street Fighter 4 are gone, but not all. Puts you in a floaty state, and you can't combo after wards.

Oh no! Ryu has been robbed, WHY CAPCOM WHY!!!!

Posted by LushyLushy on March 10, 2010 at 10:09 p.m. #1318

I think thats fair, trade into ultra is rediculous... lmao. I wonder if they took out viper's trade ultra then, cause hers is actually difficult to do.

I really dont know how to comment on ur videos dude, they are comps, are it doesnt look like you are doing a lot, to tell the truth. But u got the ryu spirit, so keep working on it!

Hey what programs can i use to record my games so i can post them? Preferably one that has high-res video playback

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 10, 2010 at 11:24 p.m. #1319

wow what part of this did I miss y do we have to sign in to make a crappy comment.
@Ryu apprentice u have the idea but lack the experience u remind me of my Abel in the sense of finding holes and punishing mistakes if u keep playing and even playing the computer u will see what means beat what and the priority a certian move have like on very hard Abel is god on that game so I go in the training room and just fight him and I learn things its all about learning the game

I beat some SG players and they are over-rated and I think that its all about style and all about zoning and spacing and online players forget that and fall vitim of a Srk whan they get beat down by fireballs
@ Lucy I was just playing about my Viper skill lol I play Guile, Abel, Akuma and Ryu and soon Hakan and of course Adon but Ur viper will own mine I was kidding u lol

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 11, 2010 at 2:52 a.m. #1320

lol! oh well, I guess I still have a long way to go then. I wished there was a street fighter community here in Nigeria, (the only closest opponent i have fought online is from Egypt)
I guess I have to put down my gloves, there are too many great players out there.

@lucy
Thanks for the advice man

@cutty
I would really love to see your guile in action, I play guile too but I'm not effective like I am with playing Charlie.

Posted by LushyLushy on March 11, 2010 at 2:52 a.m. #1321

I play... Ryu, Viper, Akuma, Sagat, Abel, Sakura, Cammy, Balrog, Chun Li, and Rufus. Well, i play them relatively decently for now. I tend to only learn the characters who are at least somewhat useful in their own way lmao

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 11, 2010 at 3:48 a.m. #1322

I was about to hang up my gloves a few minutes ago and guess what I found, a Nigeria street fighter community!!! I am so happy,am heading there straight away now to spar with some people, heard that there is a guy that's as good as justin wong and he's so good that no one wants to play him.

I am an apprentice but not for long, Thanks guys.

@lucy

Thnaks man. do me one more favour I will paste a replay of me playing gief either today or tomorrow. let me know your thoughts and hints.

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 11, 2010 at 4:47 a.m. #1323

@lucy
you can use fraps to record your games at high resolution, it kind of uses resources and unless your pc is very good it may cause the game to lag a bit. the one i use is zsoft and doesnt require much to run and can also use high resolution. my pc is not that power ful so I had to turn down the settings and resolutions and thats why the quality is quite low

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 11, 2010 at 11:15 a.m. #1324

will go out in search of other street fighters. I guess its time I leave the comfort of my PC and head out, to feel the fear of losing, the pain of defeat and the joy of victory. To get better no matter what the result may be and never give up in my quest to be the greatest street fighter that ever lived (even better than Daigo Umehara and Justin Wong). It doesnt matter how many techniques I know its the guts to keep on fighting that counts and you may never know what the future holds.

The answer is between my two thumbs and my controller.....

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 11, 2010 at 4:22 p.m. #1325

lol go ahead ryu apprentice

@ Lushy man u hvae a casts lol I play more alpha characters so in super I will be a diverse machine but I think I will keep able and Akuma a little bit longer cuz playing ryu may get boring I need an Ace in the hole

Posted by LushyLushy on March 11, 2010 at 5:44 p.m. #1326

@Apprentice
lol i love that "the answer is between my two thumbs and controller...." thats awsome man!

Hope you learn lots at the SF4 community, its impossible to learn enough to get good on your own, u need people to play and help you.

ok thanks, i will look into those programs!

@Cutty
i may really give up on Ryu if the nerf is really that significant when SSF4 becomes mainstream. It might have to come down and pick Viper, Akuma, or Sagat :/ or maybe even rufus if they didnt nerf him lmao.

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 11, 2010 at 9:34 p.m. #1327

all they did for sstf4 is tone the good people down because of the noobs complaints to the game thats it its actually going to make the hardcore players hate 4 series even more now... no more trade srk ultra anymore wtf

Posted by LushyLushy on March 11, 2010 at 11:44 p.m. #1328

@Cutty
yea man i agree! ok, i accept the nerf of the trade srk ultra, it was kinda overpowered... but ryu's fadc doing less damage is stupid. I wouldnt be suprised if some would prefer to stay with original SF4

@Apprentice
thos programs arent free :( lol

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 12, 2010 at 4:20 a.m. #1329

@Lushy

yeah I know it aint free, but zsoft is free as long as you can bear their logo lodged at the top of the screen (like in my vids) if you can manage that then go for it.

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 12, 2010 at 9:10 a.m. #1330

tried out at the arcades and I didnt do so bad, I played against three guys, I won all my matches with the first but got owned by the second guy with his guile (he wasnt so good just that the controller wasnt responding well enough) all he does is to sweep and even though I know I can focus attack the second sweep it wouldnt just come out, the third guy beat my akuma and gief but my ken and ryu was better than his,so though am sad am not there yet I am happy I played someone stronger than me,

The funny part is that they say that ryu's ultra was hard to land and was suprised I can pull of a fadc into ultra and ex tatsu into ultra. I have the chance to be the best and I am going to be the best.

Lucy thanks for all your advice. (I am now comfortable with lp to mp links.

Posted by LushyLushy on March 12, 2010 at 1:32 p.m. #1331

@Apprentice
Thats great man! Get some real matches in! Train hard, become the best in your community! When playing in a real community, you'll improve a lot faster than playing bullsh!t matches online.

Btw, if guile sweeps you and u can react on block, dont bother focuses the second hit, shoryuken or ultra :D

Also, can you post me a link where i can dl zsoft for free? or whichever version u are using, thx :)

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 13, 2010 at 1:39 a.m. #1332

I cant really remember the link that I used to download mine, send me an email at ugonnaleonard@yahoo.com and I will send you my own copy.

am still training as much as I can.

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 13, 2010 at 5:04 a.m. #1333

here is the zangief vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9owJV... (I love this one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi2llH...

Posted by LushyLushy on March 14, 2010 at 5:12 a.m. #1334

a few good SPDs, especially the ones that caught abel's throws. That walk up bear hug never really works with humans though, so dont be using that too much.

Record and post some of you playing some online matches man, even if you didnt win, i can give you more pointers that way than watch you abuse the SF4 AI :P

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 14, 2010 at 9:30 a.m. #1335

@lushy

got owned at the arcades today against arguably one of the best players in the country, 2wins and 25losses and also got owned alot but looks like I am one of the best ryu player he has faced yet, he always seems to win by a hair's breath.

I wonder why I should continue fighting, I dont have the time nor the mentor to be able to be the best.

I will try to record online matches but it will be seriously lagged.

Anyway how are you doing? waiting for SSF4? I am thinking about stopping playing street fighter for a while.

Though I know the moves and all that I lack the spirit of a fighter. Maybe if I lay off a bit empty myself of all I know then return I may be a master.

Posted by PAIN on March 14, 2010 at 12:09 p.m. #1336

........

Posted by LushyLushy on March 14, 2010 at 9:35 p.m. #1337

well, i dont know what it really is to play, but i play to win :D

Posted by LushyLushy on March 15, 2010 at 1:10 a.m. #1338

Thanks Apprentice for the zdsoft recorder! Unfortunately, i dont think i will be recording/uploading any videos because whenever i begin the recording, my game begins to lag A LOT, and makes it pretty much unplayable.

If i find a better recorder than doesnt lag me when it is on, then ill try to make some vids, but until then, o well :(

Cutty, how is ur playing coming along? Havnt heard much about you lately bro.

Theres a tourny two weeks from now, wondering if i should attend. Itll cost me 20-25 dollars, but i will probably go if my friends do. XD

Posted by PAIN on March 15, 2010 at 2 a.m. #1339

ok to cut down on the lag you can reduce the resolution that the zdsoft records with, alternatively you can connect a tv to your system and record via a dvd recorder/player.

Good luck on the tournament

Posted by LushyLushy on March 15, 2010 at 6:10 p.m. #1340

Hello Pain, welcome to the page :D thx for the tip

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 15, 2010 at 8:18 p.m. #1341

@Lushy I hear man I just was doing skool work lol... I decided not to have a main for sstf4 until a major tourney is ready for me to enter because It seems Ryu was nerfed and lower tier characters are better so I will play the game and when Evo rolls around I can getin on some action... But for some reason I feel Abel will raise and I learning him and he has what it takes to be goddy what do you think?
I think u should play in the tourney man it never hurts to pay and see where your skill level is at

I play Ps3 so if I wanted to record matches and stream video i would need a dvd player or what?

I bro made Sg and he mains Ken and I beat him wit my newly discovered Abel game I feel if Abel had a better roll and faster sweep he would be better but rushdown characters like Cammy and turtles like chun give me probs lol

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 15, 2010 at 8:25 p.m. #1342

Ryu apprentice have you tried anyone else in the game yet? I play Guile Abel Ryu Akuma so when super comes out I will play Abel more but y don't you bounce around more to see who fits your playstyle also
The first time I played stf4 in the arcades I played very defensively their was the guy their who had 25 game win streak and I nearly beat him he and I had a battle of the footsie's lol but I blew an ultra and lose... I'm a pad player so by me losing made me practice more and harder. And my friends seen my weakness so they came to my house and we were just making each other better

This was no run of the mill aracde it was Aracde AI Aracde Infinity it was japanese sticks and cabinets everywhere so the guy was super legit he destroyed everyone and I barely lost cuz I don't the stick I know the game :-}

Posted by LushyLushy on March 15, 2010 at 9:30 p.m. #1343

thats pretty legit man. If i continue through with the game enough to and think i am good enough, i want to go play in Tokyo like my friends, and visit Arcadia Infinity to fight some of the best Americans.

Abel does have trouble with Cammy specifically because he has no good anti air for her while she is fast moving and her cannon spike pretty much beats out everything you have and if u rolled and she whiffed, she still goes pretty far.

School is starting for me again... blah :/

Posted by PAIN on March 16, 2010 at 12:37 p.m. #1344

is it wise to remap the controller from the default state in order to pull off moves easier, does daigo do that?

and one sf veteran said to practice a particular combo 100 times per day, does that work.

why does ryu have a bad day with balrog, cammy and blanka.

learned to fadc skatnetsu hadoken dash into ultra today.

appart from mp mp tatsu(hk) which other link does most damage.

now mashing lp really bait moves.....

what is the meaning of the signs on ryu's glove?

pad vs fightstick which one is better?

@cutty
if you have a ps3 you can easily record your movies either by connecting your tv to a dvd recorder via a AV out. or you can buy a TV card for the pc and relay it that way.

@lushy

still waitin for your vids, friend.

Posted by friedpork on March 16, 2010 at 2:52 p.m. #1345

LUSHY TEACH ME THE WAYS OF THE RYU!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by LushyLushy on March 16, 2010 at 6:10 p.m. #1346

@Pain
You MAY want to remap your controller, but daigo does not do that because he, like most other top ranking players, play on the default japanese style arcade cabinet setup

Practice combos 100 times a day? Theres no harm, go for it if u want to! but that seems like a lot of effort... even though i find myself practing a combo over and over sometimes too

Balrog is definitely one of Ryu's most difficult matchups. Cammy and Blanka should be fine, just gotta get used to it.
But why? Dunno, just is, figure that out urself lol

several of Ryu's most damaging combo are:
fHP, crHP, HP shoryuken
crMP, crHP, HP shoryuken

No idea what his glove says

Fightstick is much, MUCH better... i cant emphasize enough lol

I actually did a few recordings last night, but i recorded them with zdsoft uncompressed because it lagged me the least so it was still mildly playable. BUT, the 3 min videos turned out to be over 1 GB each!?!? So i did not bother to upload those obviously. Next time i head to the arcade, i will hopefully get some videos recorded by camera/mobile and i will post those if the quality is acceptable.

@Friedpork
go away nubcakes :D

Posted by friedpork on March 16, 2010 at 6:38 p.m. #1347

:(

Posted by canabalistic999 on March 16, 2010 at 7:03 p.m. #1348

I am soo happy his shoryuken is getting down-powered is SSF4, he was way to easy to use and dominate with in SF4, now he will actually take more than just a shoryuken, ultra, hadoken, and jump in heavy kick to win with him. Still i think they need to do more to down power sagat far more than Ryu. Im just happy he will be totally fair in SSF4

Posted by LushyLushy on March 16, 2010 at 9:20 p.m. #1349

@Canabalistic
Sagat got nerfed way less than Ryu is true. Ryu's uppercut did not have to be nerfed in my opinion, he is definitely one of the stronger characters in the game, but everyone knows how to play against him, thats his problem, and every average Ryu player will get owned because of it.

Ryus just need his 3 main moves: crouching foward (crMK), hadoken, and shoryuken. :D

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 17, 2010 at 2:56 a.m. #1350

Lucy, I can help ya with the size, will send you a video conveter that will reduce the size to 9mb or at most 12mb without losing quality. should I use the same email you used?

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 17, 2010 at 10:42 a.m. #1351

People hate whI see y peoplepeople get beat by ryu a lot so stop whiningg and learn the matches up hate ryu cuz u get beat by him... u know who is honestly the best in the game Rufus cuz his damage output is high high defense and stamina he has more ultra potential than ryu he is the best in the game the reason noone plays him at a high level look at jwong rufus compare it to ryu or abel and decide for yourself. Btw how many time must people complain about Ryu but in third strike no body played but me now they nerf the only person I liked damn

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 17, 2010 at 10:50 a.m. #1352

Btw the I typed this in class sorry for the bad grammer lol but if any deserves a nerf its Rufus for the fat he has no weakness he can't be zoned he can't be rushed down and if turtles its a wrap for u and his tornado move eats 1 fireball and move. Forward and he isn't a bad match for my able but his dive kick is to good and deadly if performed low if he didn't get nerf in super he is my new main lol but I hate the his new alt costume... whomever has the best alt uniform is my new main lol

Posted by LushyLushy on March 17, 2010 at 8:06 p.m. #1353

Well Cutty, i have to agree with you. I do play Rufus to some extent. He is definitely one of the more easily annoying/good characters of the cast, and his ultra is very easy to link. I heard that he getting nerfed in some ways for sure though

But u mentioned he cant get zoned... but i disagree with that. He can rush down really well with his divekick, but he takes quite a beating getting up to your opponent, but once you do, you usually more than make up for it :P

@Apprentice
Wow, thats awsome! Yes, please send that to me ^^

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 18, 2010 at 1:14 a.m. #1354

ok. will do just that. just remember that you have to convert your vids to flv.

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 18, 2010 at 8:25 a.m. #1355

@ lushy yea I guess but when I'm ryu I don't lose. To rufus but when I play guile or able which are rufus favorable matches I get owned or its a chess match I think if Akuma dive kick isn't as good as rufus on super I may quit the game all together. Did I mention the ex messiah kick stops all Abel mixups that move is the best thing on the game by the chip damage or a clean hit and the options he gets afterwards are to good so I think I will try rufus more to give more of a indepth analysis lol

Posted by LushyLushy on March 18, 2010 at 5:05 p.m. #1356

@Cutty
well you should say "you dont lose" with Ryu, everyone loses. Actually, if you anticipate a ex messiah, you can neutral jump and he will whiff, as Able, u can ultra when u land... guile... just do watever lmao

Posted by LushyLushy on March 18, 2010 at 7:44 p.m. #1357

@Apprentice
received the video converter, thank you! I will start recording when i can :D

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 18, 2010 at 11 p.m. #1358

Yea I meant I usually take that match but I'm working on the matchup wit Able still cuz I picked him up Saturday and its coming along fine it seems that people run away from him during the match cuz they don't see a lot of Abel players all they do is spam fireballs and get by ultras lol

Posted by LushyLushy on March 18, 2010 at 11:54 p.m. #1359

@Cutty
well i spam fireballs UNTIL you have ultra :P and safe jumps own abels, so im not afraid to go in at all

@Apprentice
ive come across yet another problem. I manages to record two videos, the quality wasnt great but whatever, i just want to post something. But once i converted it, im not sure why, but the video multiplied o.o like... a match i had against a akuma which the video was about 8 minutes... turned out to be over 2 hours after conversion, which the video just repeats over and over. I know i can just edit out the extra parts, but why did it do that? = ="

Posted by Ryu_Apprentice on March 19, 2010 at 1:17 a.m. #1360

That has never happened to me before...

here is the process I normally take

1.Open the converter
2.Click on new task then select import file...
3.Select the file that I want to convert and choose open.
4.Next I select the video output format (in this case FLV)
5.Then I click on convert now.

It has never given me problems, one other thing I should mention, the zdsoft video format I use is MPEG4 video (in the zdsoft settings tab) It may be that so try recording in that format and then convert. Let me know if the problem continues.

Posted by cuttyb1987 on March 19, 2010 at 1:13 p.m. #1361

Lushy lol if Abel had a descent move to attack jumpins like a get the heck off me kind of thing he would be top tier but anyway screw the tier list I think its rewarding to beat Giefs and Cammys but the I need to be in the center of the match not the corner then I would have a chance lol so ur Ryu against my Abel sounds fun cuz shotos either play a turtle style and mke mistakes or try to rush me down and get scooped a lot lol

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