Posted by MasterHadou on September 11, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. #1

Well Ryu is good but his ultra and super moves seems to be doing too little damage compared to other fighters.

Posted by alias on September 23, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. #2

yeah i agree,his super n ultra hit really soft in comparison...i guess its because of their hit potential...

Posted by titantim on September 24, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. #3

I've been playing since it came out, and Ryu has an easy uppercut/super combo which is probably why they made it a little lighter than others.

Posted by nong shim on October 23, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. #4

I've tried to do crouching lp/mp followed by crouching mk/hp but it never combos properly.
Is there strict timing for this sort of combo? Anyone help?

Posted by Metsu Hadouken on November 11, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. #5

You forgot the crouching lk + crouching lp + crouching mp + hurricane kick lol.

Posted by nong shim on November 12, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. #6

I did crouching lp + crouching mp but the mp doesn't connect. Can anyone do these links properly?

Posted by Metsu Hadouken on November 13, 2008 at 12:40 a.m. #7

I think the only thing is that the opponent has to be standing and not crouching... I saw a video of Daigo trying this combo but he was crouching... Also i think the timing is very strict, but possible... Or else why would Daigo try it? lolol.

Posted by Shirin Rivalz on November 14, 2008 at 4:31 a.m. #8

so, off all his old ultra moves, the only one left is Shinkuu/Metsu Hadouken? what happenned to Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku, Shin Shoryuken? it just sucks...

Posted by pcmacro on November 14, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. #9

"so, off all his old ultra moves, the only one left is Shinkuu/Metsu Hadouken? what happenned to Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku, Shin Shoryuken? it just sucks..."

I am wondering the same, they could of gave us the option to choose our super move like in SF3

Posted by Shirin Rivalz on November 14, 2008 at 7:51 p.m. #10

That would be perfect

Posted by D3T0X on December 1, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. #11

Ryu's better than Gouki just saying.

Posted by Carmine on December 4, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. #12

Hurricane Kick has armor break. It will break focus on the first hit.

Posted by RyuCharPlayerStillInTraining on December 9, 2008 at 6:10 a.m. #13

Is this guide gonna have videos for those combos and how to properly execute them for every character cause it would definitely make it easier for me!!And i really would like to see a video of someone juggling with both his super and ultra!!

Posted by MRT3ABAG on January 1, 2009 at 3:28 p.m. #14

Nice guide, i've tried all the combos and it worked. just hard to pull of the 5th one.

Posted by berwyn on January 6, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. #15

try crouching lk, crouching lp, crouching hp xx hk hurricane kick. 4 hits, easy to link, pretty decent damage.

Posted by will on January 19, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. #16

you know what pisses me off when little asses play turtle with ryu, I was playing then this kid just turtles with ryu i jump he shyruken's i stay far away he throws fire balls or just stay crouched down

Posted by will on January 19, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. #17

""so, off all his old ultra moves, the only one left is Shinkuu/Metsu Hadouken? what happenned to Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpu Kyaku, Shin Shoryuken? it just sucks..."

I am wondering the same, they could of gave us the option to choose our super move like in SF3"

remember the story line is between 2 and 3
so the title of the game should be street fighter 2 1/2

ryu didn't learn his shin shyruken yet, his master knows it

Posted by james on January 19, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. #18

"remember the story line is between 2 and 3
so the title of the game should be street fighter 2 1/2

ryu didn't learn his shin shyruken yet, his master knows it"

...but wasn't he able to use it in Alpha3? story line makes no sense

Posted by BHeaggans on January 22, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. #19

Thats why you never get caught up in the street fighter story. Because in SF2 Ryu didn't have the Shin Shoryuken but he did have in Alpha/Zero 3 in which was the events that happened before 2.

Posted by Moy025 on January 22, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. #20

who cares!!!! Ryu Is still sick as HECK!

Posted by XaX on January 22, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. #21

I think Ryu does just fine with the Metsu Hadouken, he doesn't need anything else

Posted by BHeaggans on January 26, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. #22

Yes I agree. I have seen alot of videos of really good Japanese Ryu players on you tube. I believe that he is really powerful in this game. And that his game revolves around his juggles, so execution is a must.

Posted by Haaris Abbasi on January 27, 2009 at 4 p.m. #23

From what I understand of the SF storyline, it goes like this:

Street Fighter 1 and 2 are from the original storyline.
Alpha series is a side storyline that starts from the middle of part 1 and ends at the same time as part 2 (i.e.: Alpha 3 corresponds to events before and after SSF2T). Street Fighter 3 is the original storyline and SFIV takes place in between 3 and 2

Posted by dvn on January 28, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. #24

"you know what pisses me off when little asses play turtle with ryu, I was playing then this kid just turtles with ryu i jump he shyruken's i stay far away he throws fire balls or just stay crouched down"

I lol'd.

Posted by D3T0X on January 30, 2009 at 1:55 a.m. #25

Don't worry about that, he's just a NOOB!

Posted by Kira on January 31, 2009 at 5:09 a.m. #26

Ryu's Shoryuken, Focus Attack Dash Cancel into Ultra -> that's really possible to make all these moves before the opponent hit the floor ?

PS : i have only played to SF2 Turbo.

Posted by Daigo on January 31, 2009 at 4:53 p.m. #27

With training everything it's possible ^^

Posted by D3T0X on February 1, 2009 at 1:55 a.m. #28

True that!

Posted by COMBO MASTER on February 1, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. #29

I'm gonna make some new combos with Ryu.

I'm planning two hadouken's cancelled into an ultra, which will cancel into a focus and then another super.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 1, 2009 at 6:29 p.m. #30

To Combomaster..

I don't know if it will work but you can try it. But do remember that with damage scaling that combo may not be worth the effort.

Posted by monkey bwains on February 3, 2009 at 1:03 a.m. #31

ive been playin SFIV in the arcades recently but im having a hard time doing a FADC after the Hard shoryuken connects, any advice?

Posted by berwyn on February 3, 2009 at 1:17 a.m. #32

just do it as fast as possible, especially pressing mp+mk after the srk. you gotta hit it RIGHT after you hit hp for the srk and dash fast. practise a lot i guess. you'll get it soon. or for starters you can try simpler fadc combos like akuma's hp srk fadc into shakunetsu fireball.

Posted by Blue on February 4, 2009 at 9:13 a.m. #33

the way i've landed the Ultra is ... air mp (hits twice in the air) while your opponent is about to land do your Ultra and it should hit him.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 4, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. #34

There are a couple of ways to land the ultra:

1 Fierce Shoryuken> FADC> Ultra
2 Jumping Strong for 2 hits in the air> Ultra
( Similar to juggle with the super in super turbo/hd remix )
3 Hit a jumping opponent with a Jap Shoryuken> Ultra
( hit at the peak of their jump)
4 Juggle with ultra right after a ex hadouken in the corner
( has to been done fast to work )
5 Juggle with ultra right after landing a ex hurricane in the corner.
( similar to juggle with super after ex hurricane in 3rd Strike )
6 combo into ex hadouken> fadc> ultra
( saw this in a japanese match video last night, looked good and did good damage. But use 3 stocks of super meter)

These are the ways I read and have seen done to land a ultra. So if you can't FADC the Shoryuken yet, you do have other options.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 4, 2009 at 10:35 a.m. #35

I almost forgot that if you trade with a Jab Shoryuken you can ultra as well. Works if the opponent is jumping.

Posted by lol on February 4, 2009 at 11:18 a.m. #36

it's not metsu hadouken it's Retsu hadouken.

Posted by Shirin Rivalz on February 6, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. #37

"it's not metsu hadouken it's Retsu hadouken"

Are you sure about this?

Posted by Colton on February 7, 2009 at 9:34 a.m. #38

Ryu is a beast i have a good feeling in the console version he will still be top tier he is going to be my main

Posted by dsrget on February 8, 2009 at 4:54 a.m. #39

i find it hard dashing with the arcade stick,
so im having trouble with the focus cancel.

Posted by Cakeman on February 11, 2009 at 5:31 a.m. #40

"it's not metsu hadouken it's Retsu hadouken"
It's obvious in every video that he says Metsu - "METS!"

Posted by asreadd on February 11, 2009 at 8:49 a.m. #41

nice gzuide thanks!!
But i cant get ryus ultra/super to work, ???

Posted by StanPhilo on February 16, 2009 at 2:14 p.m. #42

aahh!!! My Favorite Super isn't in this game!!!

I want my Shin Sho Ryu Ken back!

Posted by Wave on February 16, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. #43

How do I do Ryu's air crossover move?

Posted by berwyn on February 16, 2009 at 4:56 p.m. #44

that would probably be his air medium kick, i think. you just have to make sure that you jump in at the right angle. practise and you should get it.

Posted by Bas on February 17, 2009 at 1:47 a.m. #45

How the hell do you do focus attack cancel? Like in the trial challenge level 3(i think) it says hard kick and then EX focus attack but i can't seem to pull it off?

Posted by ywat on February 17, 2009 at 6:37 a.m. #46

MP+MK Hold then Double Forward or Double Back to cancel the focus

Posted by KButz on February 17, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. #47

Does he... not have the fake hadouken?

Posted by nothingxs on February 18, 2009 at 12:12 a.m. #48

to StanPhilo:

Gouken's ultra combo is the shinshoryu.

Posted by beemerboy85 on February 18, 2009 at 6 a.m. #49

I can't get this move done in the third level of the challenge mode. Heavy punch to hadouken? how do i do it?

Posted by SF4inaWeek:( on February 18, 2009 at 6:13 a.m. #50

Try this beemerboy85:

D + HP (HOLD HP) , DF, F, (RELEASE HP)

i just find that way (negative edge, check out some SF3 third strike lessons in this site, they help in sf4) easier.

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if you want to do it the cancel way though:

HP, D, DF, F + P (any? on a normal control i find MP better)

you just have to do it very very quciky

Posted by beemerboy85 on February 18, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. #51

hey SF4inaweek: i tried that and it didn't work. i dunno what kinda of move this is. i'm not really familiar with the alpha controls and all that stuff. it's for ken and ryu. on the screen is shows arrow HP then arrow D,F Punch(hadouken) i've spent 2 hours trying this and i guess i just suck. lol.

Posted by beemerboy85 on February 18, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. #52

SF4

Posted by Ryu on February 18, 2009 at 3:09 p.m. #53

Ryu's 3rd trial hard move is fuc king impossible. Capcom are all CO** suckers those mother fuc** ing co ** sucking FAGG OOTTS

I fuc*ing hate them... damn those a** holes... DIE CAPCOM DIE... I HATE YOU I FUC*ING HATE YOU DIE DIE DIE DIE A** HOLE MOTHER FU* KING MOM FUC *ERS

Posted by SF4inaWeek:( on February 18, 2009 at 3:53 p.m. #54

maybe you guys need to make sure the input screen is up there? or go to the training room and practice and turn on the input screen to see what your doing.

It depends how they want you to do the move, negative edge hadouken might not work, but the definitely the the cancel should, you seriously have to be fast, it's way easier to do it on a joystick

BTW i haven't got SF4, i have to wait a week, but i am pretty damn 100% sure thats what you have to do, just i need to emphasis QUICKLY input!

Posted by One more thing on February 18, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. #55

-the HP has to connect you target

- If you doing the cancel way, make sure your not pressing any direction while pressing HP

Posted by haha you noob on February 19, 2009 at 4:23 a.m. #56

Ryu's 3rd trial hard move is fuc king impossible. Capcom are all CO** suckers those mother fuc** ing co ** sucking FAGG OOTTS

I fuc*ing hate them... damn those a** holes... DIE CAPCOM DIE... I HATE YOU I FUC*ING HATE YOU DIE DIE DIE DIE A** HOLE MOTHER FU* KING MOM FUC *ERS

hahahha dumb noob ^^

i practiced alot thanks to that trials.
if you think its impossible watch these two gods
Momochi (GO) vs Daigo (RY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gqyfn...

Posted by zAya on February 19, 2009 at 10:44 a.m. #57

i cant pull of the shinsu hadouken (cant spell it) becuase my game says its three punches wich is difficult cuz i got lil hands lol

Posted by rajman on February 19, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. #58

jesus christ that daigo and momochi play like a bunch of noobs.

my god. if you want to see some real street fighter 4 action...me beating akuma on the hardest difficulty AND beating the crap out of some people online....gimme a shout out on here and ill show you some real combo street fighter 4 vids.

scrubs/noobs...beware.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 19, 2009 at 1:08 p.m. #59

@rajman

Um you calling Daigo out of all people a noob?

I need to play you then.
XBL BHeaggans
PSN BHeaggans1

I own the game on both, add me to your friend list so we can get some matches in. I am always looking to play when I am off from work.

Posted by ryuuuu on February 19, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. #60

how do you get gouken? gotten all character except gouken and seth. what next? 2 perfects and 2 ultras?

Posted by ryuuuu on February 19, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. #61

how do you get gouken? gotten all character except gouken and seth. what next? 2 perfects and 2 ultras?

Posted by rajman/kapows on February 19, 2009 at 8:09 p.m. #62

@ BHeaggans

before you do...i think i ought to show you my skills on video? wanna watch?

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 7:22 a.m. #63

how do you link ryu's jumping hp to hk and then the shinku haduken

Posted by BHeaggans on February 20, 2009 at 8:35 a.m. #64

@rajman

Sure whats the link. If you are good then it will help me get better. But you have to land the combos first..lol Its more to this game then combos. But I still wanna play because it can help me to get better faster.

@who cares

Its not a link. Just jump in with hp, then hk ( the close verison which is a ax kick.), the cancel into the shinkuu hadouken. You have to cancel the first hit of the hk.

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 9:11 a.m. #65

you are talking about ryu's 3rd combo of the level 4 trial right?

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 9:13 a.m. #66

because it doesnt call for a cancel

Posted by BHeaggans on February 20, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. #67

Yeah, I am at work so I am not at home playing right now. But if my memory serves me correct its just like I said. But correct me if I am wrong.

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. #68

can I send you a friend request so you can help me out with some stuff tonight maybe

Posted by who cares on February 20, 2009 at 9:40 a.m. #69

i dont understand how anyone has time to input an ultra after a cancel sins you have to dash in between the force cancel and the ultra

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at noon #70

I need help with this too. Do you have to cancel the axe kick, dash back, and THEN do a super? It doesn't seem like my super motions register after the dash back

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. #71

I see whats happening...when I cancel, I am doing it out of a focus attack which is taking up my special meter. Is there another way to cancel I don't know about?

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. #72

I just figured out that you can cancel into the Shinkuu Hadoken without dashing, if you do it at exactly the right moment during the axe kick. Far as I can tell, this is nearly impossible to do following a jumping punch, but I managed to do it twice now out of a standstill axe kick (twice in maybe 30 attempts.) I don't understand how normal humans are supposed to beat this.

Posted by BHeaggans on February 20, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. #73

@who cares

Sure thats fine. I have it on both systems so here is my gamertags:

XBL BHeaggans
PSN Bheaggans1

I won't be on until later because I work 2 jobs and don't get off until 10 pm eastern time. ( I live in Baltimore, MD )
Plus I also have my wife but she won't mind.

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at 12:51 p.m. #74

@BHeaggans

Cool if I friend you too? Im on XBL, gamertag is the same as my name here

Posted by Pakorn on February 20, 2009 at 12:57 p.m. #75

I did it!! I did it!! WOOOOOOO

Basically yeah BHeaggans was right. You need ot do the jumping Hard Punch (I did it straight vertical instead of jumping in,) then IMMEDIATELY hit Hard Kick and basically be doing the motion for a Shinkuu Hadoken as you're letting go of the kick trigger.

It seemed kind of like I only had to do one Quarter-Circle-Forward though, but it may have registered as 2 cause I was shaking with angry determination and ferocity.

Posted by who cars on February 20, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #76

i guess ill just keep practicing

Posted by rich on February 20, 2009 at 6:34 p.m. #77

how do to focus atack to solar plexus strike in chalk 2 hard

Posted by Organic on February 21, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. #78

I have huge problems doing the freaking 4th combo in Ryu's 4th trial!

Jeez it's freakin impossible. Any tips?

Posted by Cryuap on February 21, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. #79

No, I have tried it a hundred fuc*in times. It won't give it to me even though I do it properly.

Posted by Organic on February 21, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. #80

I can't even hit with the shoryuken in time since the HP knocks Dan back and I don't have enough time to dash and then do a shoryuken. Freakin hell! Btw does it save or do you have to redo all combos in 4th trial if you quit?

Posted by tyson on February 21, 2009 at 3:36 p.m. #81

it wont be saved..
guess u just need to keep doing it like i am atm =)

Posted by tyson on February 21, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #82

am kind of in need for some help my self, atm am playing arcade mode, and on the hardest dif. ryu vs seth, and i just cant get him down.. i normaly play a very very aggrasive ryu but seth just got to much defensive powers it seem.. anyone got a strategi vs him?

Posted by c 2 on February 21, 2009 at 9:53 p.m. #83

"The Hard Kick version will go through some projectiles, which can be a nasty surprise for the other fighter"
This is true but all versions of this special can go through projectiles, but with lp and mp versions it won't travel great distances to reach the other player. I remember dodging metsu in training with Lp hurrican but i was in throwing distance of him. maybe you can change so people reading the guide won't get confused?

Posted by shi on February 22, 2009 at 2:44 a.m. #84

Can anyone tell me why like 90% of the time in a fight I end up doing EX Shoryuken instead of my metsu hadoken. super annoying and always screws me over. I go into training and try different things but usually it just seems random sometimes i can do it whenever i want other times ryu just keeps doing the stupid shoryuken no matter what i seem to do.

Posted by saer on February 22, 2009 at 1:27 p.m. #85

on ryu's third trial, the last one- Crouch Heavy Punch to Shoryuken, I crouch punch and then go right and roll it back up, but it always does Shinku, any tips?

Posted by TornadoTK on February 22, 2009 at 9:13 p.m. #86

@ shi
You gotta finish the motion. Stopping the QCF at DF turns your attempt at a QCF into an F,D,DF. Throw in the multiple P's, and viola, an EX Shoryu.

Make sure you complete the QCF.

Posted by Incerto on February 22, 2009 at 9:16 p.m. #87

SHI i had the same problem as you, you are pressing the three punches too quicly, do the 2x QCF, wait a little then press the three punches

Posted by Wubinator on February 23, 2009 at 12:37 a.m. #88

With the • Metsu Hadoken (Ultra Fireball) • the three punches. Does that mean LP+MP+HP or 3 quick punches after another?

Posted by Raius1 on February 23, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. #89

Wubinator-

It's the three punch buttons all together. Every character's Ultra is done with three attack buttons at once.

Posted by Raius1 on February 23, 2009 at 8:31 a.m. #90

Pardone me, not Akuma.

Posted by Master on February 23, 2009 at 3:49 p.m. #91

here's a few combos that uses the ultra/super together that i'd like to share with everyone.

Combo A

2/3 saving atk, dash forward, dash punch, hard punch Shoryuken, cancel into Shinkuu Hadoken

if ur up for it after the above Shinkuu Hadoken ur opponent will be in mid air if ur timing is good u can follow it with ultra hadoken

this combo is really hard to pull off as ur pulling both super and ultra together but not impossible, however this combo is much easier when ur opponent is in the corner as they will bounce back off the side will allowing ur ultra to follow in easier

Combo B

not a super/ultra combo but just wanted to show what else this combo can pull off

similar to the combo in the guide above

• (Opponent in corner) Level 2/3 Saving Attack, Dash Forward, Towards + Hard Punch, Crouching Light Punch, Crouching Hard Punch, EX-Hurricane Kick, juggle with EX-Fireball and with another EX-Hurricane Kick •

but instead of juggling with EX fireball juggle with ultra it will link

if the above is too hrad to pull off try just simply while opponent in corner, EX-Hurricane Kick then juggle with ultra practice this first before combining with the combo

Posted by ay on February 24, 2009 at 1:11 a.m. #92

im having a very hard time connecting F+hard punch into crouching light, medium and hard punch..

also how do i connect crouching medium punch into crouching hard punch?

i am having difficulty with this.. anyone can help?

Posted by ONEofFIVEsTrIkE on February 24, 2009 at 1:26 a.m. #93

People of the SF4 nation... I was having problems following the Focus Cancel with another move but after reading through all your comments and the tutorial heading the page, I found myself punching the air in celebration.

Last night I was able to finish Ryu's HARD #3, #4 (after the nightmare of #3, #4 was child's play) and #5.

Focus Attack Dash Cancel saved my relationship with my PS3. Could you believe!? all this time I was trying to execute an ultra after the Focus Attack finished its animation. DOH! I must say I found it easier to use the D-Pad to input the FA Dash Cancel as my speed and precision with the analog stick on the Forward Forward motion was lacking.

I'm now on Ken's HARD #4. Thank you SF community. >:oD

Posted by yflow on February 24, 2009 at 10 a.m. #94

I think that you should add another combo to the list. Fierce shoryu, focus attack dash cancel, ultra is a very useful one. I would almost consider it to be a bread and butter way to land the ultra. It's the one I rely on the most, outside of just giving them the focus attack into ultra.

Posted by yflow on February 24, 2009 at 10:02 a.m. #95

ay:
Don't sweat it, man. You just have to get the timing down. This game provides VERY small frame windows for links, so you have to be very specific. I'm not even sure if things like that are entirely practical.

Posted by Christobelle on February 24, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. #96

What does "Level 2/3 Saving Attack" mean? Anyone know?

Thanks for the help!

Posted by someone on February 25, 2009 at 8:35 a.m. #97

I think u meant Focus Attack.

Level 1 focus attack = pressing mp+mk and release after pressing

Level 2 focus attack = pressing mp+mk and hold for around 1.5 sec

Level 3 focus attack = pressing mp+mk and hold all the way (around 3 sec )and it will auto execute

Posted by ay on February 26, 2009 at 1 a.m. #98

thanks yflow!

Posted by kill joy on February 26, 2009 at 12:44 p.m. #99

how do u cancel a move when in a combo

Posted by JJ86 on February 26, 2009 at 2:11 p.m. #100

I am starting to think that SRK xx FADC into Ultrra might be over rated. Finding it hard to find a place to use it when there are other ways to set up ultra with no need for 2 ex meters.

Posted by yflow on February 27, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. #101

Here's another combo for you:

SRK xx Super, juggle with Ultra.

This combo HURTS.
You can put whatever you want before it (i.e. jump-in Fierce to standing fierce, or crouching forward, or whatever, just so long as you land the SRK).

Posted by yflow on February 27, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. #102

kill joy:

You have to kind of interrupt the move you're doing with the next move. You have to be very quick for it.

Posted by KK on February 27, 2009 at 2:11 p.m. #103

Crouching Light Punch 3x, Crouching Medium Kick, Cancel into Fireball

How do i perform cancel into fireball???
Can someone please help me out?
thx

Posted by Raius1 on February 27, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. #104

You can link a Hard Punch or Kick into Ultra. Jump in with a hard kick, input looking like d, df, f + HK. Then immediatly follow it with d, df, f + PPP. If you do it right, easy nine hit combo. Much easier than the shoryu FADC ultra (although that is awesome.)

Posted by someone on February 27, 2009 at 7:56 p.m. #105

@ KK

Canacel into Fireball means that, after u press the crouching medium kick, u can execute ur fireball. You dont have the wait for the crouching medium kick animation to finish.

But sometimes i would prefer to use crouching medium punch than crouching medium kick. Cuz the animation time for c.mp is faster than c.mk, and the timing of execution is much more *freely* compare to c.mk

Posted by FalconTwelve on February 27, 2009 at 10:36 p.m. #106

This guide left out an important detail about Ryu's super move.

You can get a guaranteed hit with your super move immediately after a close-range special move. For example, you can jump in with a HK, hit HP and then 2-1 that into a fierce shoryuken, and as the shoryuken starts, perform the super move motion quickly and rapidly. You can also chain it from crouching low kick to 2-1 hadouken to super hadouken, and these moves link in a combo.

So basically, his super can add a huge chunk of damage to virtually all of Ryu's combos. Heck, it's even possible to throw a super hadouken while a normal hadouken of yours is on screen... just perform the super motion after Ryu has started normal hadouken motion, and time the input of the three punch button for whan Ryu says the "Do!" part of HaDo!uken. If you vary the speeds, you can get two fireballs that are spread a foot apart. Jump one and the other nails ya.

Posted by FalconTwelve on February 27, 2009 at 10:43 p.m. #107

Er sorry, I didn't mean to say "three punch buttons" in the last post. I was referring to the super which requires just one punch button. Still, if your revenge guage is < 50 percent, you could just as well hit all three if you wanted to.

Posted by someone2 on February 27, 2009 at 10:55 p.m. #108

@ someone
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Posted by nick nack patty wack on March 2, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. #109

Ryu is the best one on the game and his ultra and super moves looks cool.

Posted by playboy on March 2, 2009 at 11:48 a.m. #110

nick nack patty wack give a dog a bone for rock will ray the lobster bullshark farms go meat yeah but butty and giggy stank

Posted by Captain Hentai on March 3, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. #111

Hey guys, I was messing about in training mode and found an alternative input method for the Shoryuken, FADC, Ultra. The key difference here is removing the forward forward input and simply using a really fast double QCF motion to dash.

1) Do a shoryuken
2) hold MP and MK, then do the double QCF motion REAL FAST. If you do it quick enough, he will cancel the focus into a forward dash
3) release MP and MK, the press PPP

Practise the traditional method as shown in the main article and also practise using this method and find out which way works better for you!

Posted by BobDole on March 4, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. #112

Why do people consider Ryu a better choice than Ken? It seems to me that Ken's Shoryuken is much better, whether you are using HP for to cover more area, or MP to do more damage and get more priority against air attacks.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ryu, but I can't think of any reasons to pick him over Ken.

Posted by Bubbles on March 4, 2009 at 2:49 p.m. #113

Falcon, the reason the guide doesn't mention canceling specials into the super fireball is because if you hit with an srk for example, it is much better to use your meter to FADC into an ultra, which does much more damage.

Posted by fijilights on March 4, 2009 at 9:43 p.m. #114

For this game in particular, this is probably the most useful site I have seen so far. I really appreciate your comments you guys. I would like to ask for some help.

I am okay with most of the moves and I enjoy using Ryu but for the life of me I can't seem to execute his ultra unless by chance.

Simply put, I cannot execute hadouken twice.

Incidentally the directional layout, that is hadouken twice is the layout for some other fighter's ultra so my ultras and supers are wasted. Are there any tips for mastering this ultra. I have been practising for over four days. I'd really appreciate whatever advice you have. U can respond on this board or my email is emmyobinna@yahoo.com and have the subject as street fighter so I don't mistake you for a spammer.
Hope I am not being a bother and thanks again for such a helpful comments.

Posted by Kenny1213 on March 5, 2009 at 11:21 p.m. #115

jump RH -> solar plexus strike -> F.shoryuken -> Ultra

ended up pulling 520 dmg, while I can only get his shoryuken -> FADC -> ultra to do 450ish.

Why is the super so disregarded?

Posted by Kenny1213 on March 5, 2009 at 11:45 p.m. #116

jump RH -> solar plexus strike -> F.shoryuken -> SUPER***
sorry, you can also juggle with the ultra after the super, though.

Posted by dayday on March 6, 2009 at 2:21 a.m. #117

just bought sfIV, looks siik, should be a second tier in jumping to get bullsh!t juggles/combos off. like in marvel vs capcom on dreamcast..pwnage

Posted by The Psycho Spanish Ninja, Jink on March 7, 2009 at 12:33 a.m. #118

Does Ryu have Kara Throw?

Posted by rma on March 7, 2009 at 4:29 a.m. #119

Ryu's back in top tier! :D
I'm surprised most people here are having trouble with his jump in hp->hk cancel to super...i got that really quickly.
The Trial i couldnt get was his Hard mode 3rd trial (i think), where you have to fadc->hk->crouch hp->srk->super (if memory serves correctly), I couldn't do it due to the massive throbbing pain in my thumb xD, i need a fightpad. Oh just as a side question:I'm predominantly a console player (since i'm too cheap for arcades) but I am pretty fine with using an arcade stick so just wondering, as far as long hour gaming sessions go which one would be better? Arcade stick or fightpad? I'm thinking stick but can I get confirmation?

Posted by ryu fan on March 7, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. #120

ok heres a combo he has 2 be in a corner ok EX hurricane kick into his ultra pretty simple but u can also add a focus attack into into it mainly takes about half of ur health away

Posted by Boris on March 8, 2009 at 10:42 a.m. #121

Ryu is O.K. , but I stopped playing as him as soon as I unlocked Akuma. Ryu is 80% of the time played by newbs and their movement is predictable. There are very few good ryu players, but those who are very good are nearly unbeatable.

Posted by Trill on March 9, 2009 at 1:03 a.m. #122

On Ryu's third hard trial challenge you have to ex focus cancel a shoryuken into his ultra. Is there any way to abbreviate the ultra motion after you cancel? I can't get it out fast enough and I'm not sure if I should dash ex cancel or try and frantically input the ultra command as soon as he ex cancels. When can you can start inputting the ultra, is it during or after the ex focus cancel? If anyone knows a good link about this or can give me some pointers I would appreciate it.

Posted by Mike Hunt on March 9, 2009 at 6:16 p.m. #123

I find myself using Ryu over Ken in this game.

Unlike 3rd strike, Ken was the more appropriate character to use.

Ryu has gotten stronger through his VR training..LOL.

NIGGA

Posted by giggade on March 10, 2009 at 6:44 p.m. #124

ryu FTW

Posted by arsalon on March 10, 2009 at 7:48 p.m. #125

i love ryu but so much ppl think ken is better... why?

what is the difference between ken and ryu in game wise?

Posted by SurgeFist on March 10, 2009 at 8:58 p.m. #126

We need Ryu's Trial info help here ASAP!

Posted by SurgeFist on March 11, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #127

THANKYOU! for putting Ryu's Trial info!

Posted by dolemite3000 on March 12, 2009 at 2:21 p.m. #128

I like Ryu.He has crazy juggles,but his ultra moves are not the strongest

Posted by Dolomite2 on March 12, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. #129

Many consider Ryu's ultra to be the best in the game, and I agree. The reason it doesn't do as much damage as say, Ken's ultra, is because it is 10x easier to land.

In the hands of a casual player, Ryu's Ultra will absolutely suck. You shouldn't be using it just whenever, you need to use it when the opponent CANNOT avoid it, and there are SO many opportunities to do this. I play as Ryu, and I land my ultra so much more than most of my opponents. If Ryu's ultra did as much damage as some of the higher-damage ultra moves, it would be hideously imbalanced.

Focus attack, LP shoryuken, ANY Shoryuken you trade hits with, opponents as they are jumping (unless they have a trajectory-changing move) or, my favorite one, wait till a newbie Ryu fires his at you and just jump over it and fire yours.

Posted by Retro3 on March 12, 2009 at 7:25 p.m. #130

You can also combo into Ryu's ultra from a HK jump kick, just so long as your kick hits them close and below the neck.

Posted by The 7th Number on March 14, 2009 at 11:06 p.m. #131

Im trying to do Ryu's hard trial level 5. I can do it all except the ultra at the end, and when i do the ultra, its always when dan hits the ground, and then its way too late. I guess im not hitting the ultra fast enough right after hitting the EX MP+MK Cancel. Its just annoying because there is still time to do the ultra while dan is falling, but Ryu wont do it, till dan hits the ground. This one is very tough.

Posted by SSJ3X on March 15, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. #132

One thing I learned about that Trial is that you get use to FADC out of his shoryuken and dashing forward to finish with an ultra. I'd say practice doing that in the corner but dashing backwards. Eventually after doing it a lot of times, you'll be able to chain it so you can complete the trial.

Man... I really love his fireball traps, they seem much better than in the Super Turbo days.

Posted by void on March 18, 2009 at 2:45 a.m. #133

could someone please explain the point of mixing between crouching light and kick punches in combos. I dont understand why people keep mixing betweenthe two during combos instead of using one or the other. Is it just for style or something?

Posted by Lemon Boy on March 18, 2009 at 5:44 a.m. #134

Hey, could someone please explain the 'cancel' feature and how to execute it? thanks

Posted by Korobar on March 18, 2009 at 2:03 p.m. #135

For my favorite Combo of him the opponent has to stay in a corner. Jump HK , Crouch MK/LK , EX Hurricane Kick , Ultra. 15 Hit Combo . It deals about 55% to 60% damage.

Could someone tell me why, when you do Shoryuken -> Super -> Ultra it is only a 10 hit combo? Shouldn't it be a 16 hit combo?

Posted by dumb a$$ on March 18, 2009 at 7:50 p.m. #136

cannot land solar plexus strike after focus attack. any suggestions?

Posted by dumb a$$ on March 18, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. #137

dash u dummy

Posted by void on March 18, 2009 at 11:49 p.m. #138

um..what the hell am I supposed to do against a zangief cross up attack.

Posted by Chargi on March 19, 2009 at 12:33 a.m. #139

I have to correct a combo :X

• Crouching Light Kick, Crouching Light Punch, Crouching Medium Punch, Cancel into Hurricane Kick •

doesn't work well. Even if your cLK, cLP hits, cMP won't stand him up -> your HK doesn't hit your crouching opponent.

cLK, cLP, cHP xx HK Tatsu

Beware: doesn't work after Crossup, because your cHP won't hit, so try that one: cLK, cLK, HP Shoryu (shoryu must be a link!) - can be comboed with FADC into Ultra.

Posted by Yo on March 20, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. #140

Do a late shoryu on wake up eliminates most cross up games. If any blanka tries an ultra while you're waking up, an Ex'ed shoryu will knock him out of it. You can also focus the cancel and dash away, causing a whiffed throw for the most part.

Posted by Lam on March 23, 2009 at 2 a.m. #141

Hey I'm a newbie bout SF4, and having problem to execute super and ultra moves..

How do you actually do it? Is the time interval for the command input is really fast? Does using a standard controller is more disadvantage than using a joystick? I really need help, almost throw away my controller out of frustration lol.. Thanks

Posted by So_low on March 23, 2009 at 5:20 a.m. #142

This is a bit off topic, but would anyone happen to know daigo's current BP and win %, or at least link me up to a place that has this data. thanks

Posted by zero on March 24, 2009 at 12:29 a.m. #143

Hi Lam,

practice more. i still remember first time i put my hands on console sf, it is really difficult to perform any special moves. during the first week, i did not manage to perform a single one. since i was quite good at arcade version, i thought capcom removed special moves due to console's performance issue. lol.
i do not feel any time interval. actually, in order to counter opponent's moves or perform some combos, you need to perform as quickly as possible.

Posted by Rookie on March 25, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. #144

OK bare with me I havent played street fighter since it was on super nintendo. I have the Super down pact but I cant quite get the ultra. I see what your supposed to do but I just can't get it. Any Tips or help from you pro's

Posted by Lam on March 25, 2009 at 11:51 p.m. #145

Finally getting the hang of the combos and special moves..
Thanks zero.

Posted by Big Fish on March 27, 2009 at 3:07 a.m. #146

Why do you sometimes fire a Super Fireball (Shinkuu Hadoken) when you make the move for the Ultra (Metsu Hadoken)?
For example (in training mode): when you are a 1 end of the screen and your opponent at the other end, and you fire an EX-Hadouken then make the move for the Ultra, you only fire the Super (not true if you are a half-screen away from you opponent).
There are examples in non-training mode and at close range, but I do not remember them right now.
Do you also experience this? Do you know why this is?

Posted by cBo on March 27, 2009 at 4:24 a.m. #147

Are spezial pad like this a real advantage?
https://www.gcshop.ch/gcshop/details....

Or is the stick version better?

Posted by Big Fish on March 27, 2009 at 5:13 a.m. #148

@cBo: check out the Mad Catz pad review on http://www.capcom-unity.com/redvirtue...
It looks pretty good (compared to the basic pad though).

Posted by Sagat on March 27, 2009 at 5:17 a.m. #149

watchin that video just made me drop my jaw with awe, i will never do this!! :(

Posted by moogle on March 29, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. #150

My hands are tired from doing the shoryken FADC ultra. I always get shoryuken FADC EX shoryuken and even when the Ultra does come out it always misses. I only managed to land it about 2-3 times and those were like really fast movements to the point I might concuss from playing too much. So any advice on how to go about doing the ULTRA after the dash? I tried the 2 QCF movement dash cancel...it's really hard to do....

Posted by Peacecraft on March 30, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. #151

Big Fish: It has nothing to do with distance. The thing is that, you can't combo the ultra after a hadouken. That would be cheap.

Posted by ryu player on March 31, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. #152

hey man your guide was helpful but some more ryu combos wud be extra nice

Posted by yodola on March 31, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. #153

ryus timing has to be almost pin-point accuracy, thus if you land the shoryuken ultra combo you must execute the ultra as he dashes to maintain full accuracy. still 5 top moves i use wit ryu

1. ex hurricane->metsu (only in a corner)
2.shoryuken->metsu
3.shoryuken->shinku->metsu
4.low mk->ex hadu->metsu
hardest for me 5.low mk->hadu-> fadc-> exhadu-> metsu
try those and you will become a decent ryu player ^_^

Posted by Zen on March 31, 2009 at 2:02 p.m. #154

Here's a situational Ryu combo:

Jumping Hard Kick, Crouching Hard Punch, cancel into Hard Punch Shoryuken, cancel into Shinkuu Hadouken, Metsu Hadouken

Yes, if timed right, you can juggle a Shinkuu into a Metsu. Does about 70% damage with full ultra.

Posted by DR Jam on March 31, 2009 at 6:59 p.m. #155

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Help<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ryu Hard Trial 3

I can't seam to cancel the Hp into the Shoryuken. It always comes out as hadouken.

Any tips for input?

Posted by Big Fish on April 1, 2009 at 2:09 a.m. #156

@Peacecraft: Thank you for your explanations. I am only starting to understand how the game works, and your comment helps me to understand why, for example, you can link only the Shinkuu, and not the Metsu, after Towards + Hard Punch.

However, I maintain that you can link (or cancel into? I cannot say) a Metsu after an EX-Hadoken when you are 2/3 screen from your opponent, and that the Metsu turns into a Shinkuu when you are a full screen away from her (in training mode with unlimited super otherwise this is not possible) - please let me know what you think.

Thanks ! This forum is really helpful to get a grasp of the game mechanics for a newbye like me (hadn't played a SF game since SFII)

Posted by Peacecraft on April 1, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. #157

Big Fish: First of all, I'm just a newbie like you, so don't rely on me too much ;)
And I can only repeat myself. There are a few distance dependant moves (like one of Zangief's throw) in the game, but Ryu doesn't have any of them. The only thing that matters is the input, and it's easy to do a super by mistake in the heat of battle.

Posted by Peacecraft on April 1, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #158

I misunderstood your comment, but the point is that neither the super, nor the ultra are distance dependant moves.

Posted by sf4 on April 1, 2009 at 2:43 p.m. #159

Does anyone wants to challenge me in sf4 in xbox live add me as a friend im a pretty good ryu user i do know everything about him also i know the combos and FADC from ryu. I will be playing online today if u get the chance to play me. my gamertag is mr jiga321

Posted by Don on April 1, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. #160

Ryu's about 5 times as nasty to fight as ever.

Posted by Big Fish on April 2, 2009 at 2:39 a.m. #161

@Peacecraft (#158): so how do you explain the following (easy-to-reproduce, training mode with infinite jauges only):
-Perfom a Metsu after an EX-Hadoken when you are 2/3 screen from your opponent >> result is fine = Metsu
-Perform the same when you are a full screen away >> result = Shinkuu

I am looking at the input commands displayed on the screen and this shows the exact same sequence in both cases...

(I am insisting only because this could give me a better understanding of how the game works, not because of this specific example)

Posted by Wee Soldier on April 2, 2009 at 6:03 p.m. #162

@Big Fish when your ex hadoken connects ryu instantly recovers this is why its possible to combo the ex hadouken into the metsu in a corner what i imagine your doing is using the same speed of input and instead of doing a metsu because you have recoverd you are instead canceling the ex hadouken animation and performing the super , just a note why you are practicing this deludes me as at that range it will NEVER combo, incase your not always use training mode set to auto block this way anything that isnt a combo after the first hit wont connect

Posted by some guy on April 4, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. #163

i was playing with my friend using ryu and keep getting my ass beat by bison ... what should i do ?

Posted by B14ckPh03nix145 on April 6, 2009 at 6:20 p.m. #164

i kept getting beat by a cheap rufus player almost all my attacks dont work what should i do.

Posted by saikotik on April 7, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. #165

B14ckPh03nix145

as a ryu player and playing against ryu noobs, i see alot of people abusing the hadouken. this rufus player is expecting that since the ryu players that do nothing but throw projectiles have their technique set. this rufus player has probably found a way to counter those projectiles assuming you are throwing them.

rufus is unique, you have to use your ground technique to destroy him. F+MP and F+HP work pretty good in my case. D+HP - SHORYUKEN is good too. limit your projectiles cause it leaves you wide open.

Posted by Karyu on April 7, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. #166

"remember the story line is between 2 and 3
so the title of the game should be street fighter 2 1/2

ryu didn't learn his shin shyruken yet, his master knows it"

...but wasn't he able to use it in Alpha3? story line makes no sense"

Ryu's shoryuken super in Alpha 3 was NOT shin shoryuken, I believe its name was Mettsu Shoryuken. Whever I got the name right or not its a different move. Ryu would hit with a dashing elbow and then go into a shoryuken.

When Ryu performs a shin shoryuken he begins by doing a gut punch as if he is performing a normal shoryuken but then switches hands to perform the shin shoryuken.

Hope that made sense =)

Posted by saikotik on April 9, 2009 at 7:49 a.m. #167

some guy

shoryuken and hadou. Hadou VS PSYCHO CRUSHER, Shoryuken VS DEVIL'S REVERSE. F+MP XX SHORYUKEN VS. CLOSE TELEPORT.

If you miss a shoryuken, you will eat bison's ultra.

Posted by bxsfer on April 15, 2009 at 1:48 p.m. #168

I'm pretty new to Street Fighter and don't know what a saving attack is, can somebody explain it?

Posted by bxsfer on April 15, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #169

Never mind, reading through it, I realize that's the focus attack.

Posted by jon on April 16, 2009 at 5:57 a.m. #170

how the f`ck do u perform the massive hadouken on the pause menu the way it shows u is to small to read does any1 no thanks

Posted by saikotik on April 16, 2009 at 7:40 a.m. #171

@ jon

motion a regular hadouken twice and press all three punches

Posted by renanns on April 16, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #172

this combo wiv light shoryouken and ultra or super, only gets if u do the light shoryouken in the opponent who atacks ur in the air

Posted by saikotik on April 17, 2009 at 3:30 p.m. #173

I CANT BEAT GUILE, OF ALL PLAYERS, I CANT BEAT THIS GUY WORTH A CRAP. I DONT HAVE ISSUES WITH ANYONE ELSE, JUST GUILE! TIPS PLEASE!!!! NOT YOUR AVERAGE TURTLER GUILE, HE'S MORE ON THE OFFENSIVE AND SEEMS TO KNOW MY EVERYMOVE. I MIGHT AS WELL DISABLE THE SHORYUKEN, HE MAGICALLY BLOCKS EVERY SINGLE ONE. HADOUKENS ARE EXCHANGED WITH SONIC BOOMS, SOMETIMES EX SONIC BOOMS. WHILE IM FINISHING A HADOUKEN, I GET KNOCKED WITH A 5-HIT COMBO.

Posted by fine ill help on April 18, 2009 at 6:02 p.m. #174

ok, guile really isn't that big a deal when u take advantage of everything ryu does better. Let me guess, when ur close but not too close u'd trhow out some hadokens but he'd jump over one eventually while ur doing one and hit you. So he probably just has a good sense of timing and can anticipate a hadoken. What u shud do when ur close enough for a jump in is be weary of using hadokens and watch when he does sonic boom. when ur at a good distance u shud start throwing out hadokens as his projectile is a charge move, and he'll have a harder time matching yours. U'll eventually win any projectile war with him if ur at a good distance. When close it's usually a guessing game and is mostly about who has better timing. If ur fairly close, u shud throw out a hadoken now and then but not spam it. When he thinks ur about to throw one out he'll jump at you and thats when u shud punish him with a crouching hard punch or a heavy shory if ur quick enough. When you think he's about to throw out a sonic boom or ur quick enough to react to one, u jump at him and punish however u like. ust be careful as his flash kick will easily knock u out of teh air if u amke a wrong decision. And try not to shoryu on wake up alot or in battle for no reason unless hes recovering from a blocked special or anything,thats probably why he just blocks everyone. Also mix up ur game a little bit, if u do the same thing over and over again he'll notice the pattern and react accordingly..thats probably why he knows ur every move. Just don't be too predictable..mix up throws and attacks to keep him guessing. And remember, if he jumps in your crouching hard punch will make him pay. Also feel free to play some mind games and make him always wonder what u'll do next.

Posted by Shin Dan Hibiki on April 19, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. #175

Not bad of a character. but he is in my top three 1/ryu 2/ken 3/dan

Posted by saikotik on April 21, 2009 at 7:35 a.m. #176

ok it happened again only this time, he didn't block once, but it was jabs then throws. ex sonic booms when i throw a hadouken. i get FADC into his ultra. i added him as a friend cause he's such a great guile player. he was even telling me how to beat him and i couldn't do it. *sigh* i guess its back to basics!!! when im akuma i can stand a chance. but for some reason i cant get it with ryu! i mean !@#$ he guile has TWO MOVES! i have come to realize that i just suck! i have no problems with anyone else, just guile. and then he started using bison, had a perfect on me twice!!!! AHHHHHH

Posted by SFnoob on April 22, 2009 at 7:25 a.m. #177

Just a side note. The Trial video for Ryu is missing.

Posted by o RanSomE o on April 24, 2009 at 5:08 p.m. #178

just to start let me say i am aware there are good ryu players out although i think daigo throws a bit too many hadokens sometimes ryu is good in the right hands but seriously all you good ryu players need to hold a summit or some sort of meeting so all the good ryu players can have a chat with the cheese ones that make all of you look bad or cheesy as the case maybe

Posted by lance on April 25, 2009 at 11:35 p.m. #179

what happend to the trial video for ryu

Posted by Amiga4ever on April 26, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #180

@moogle
Do the ultra movement 3 times, ie D,DF,F x3. The closer you are to the edge of the screen, add a 4th motion.

Posted by SKI-MASK-SHOT-GUN on April 28, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. #181

" Level 2/3 Saving Attack, Dash Forward, Level 2 Saving Attack, Dash Forward, juggle with Shoryuken"

what does it mean by 'saving attacks' n level 2 savin attack, n 2/3

Posted by philli on April 29, 2009 at 3:20 p.m. #182

hi im a noob at this and hav only just started playing street fighter iv and im afraid to say that im having problems performing the most simplest of attacks, i can do a hadouken but whenever i try doing a Shinkuu Hadoken i end up doing a Shoryuken, i dont understand really since the shinkuu is basically down up down up and punch and while i have been able to succesfully do it in the past i find myself doing more Shoryuken's. the same goes for sagat since his Tiger Genocide is simialr and i end up doing a tiger uppercut instead more often and not, please could one of you give me any insight as to what i may be doing wrong? thanks

Posted by ljay103 on April 30, 2009 at 8:20 a.m. #183

@philli

try doing the motion 3 times fast, and hit all three punches. if you dont, you'll do an EX SHORYUKEN, or super! it doesn't require 3 times but in your case you want to be sure, and like i said you probably couldn't hit all three buttons.

Posted by phillil on May 2, 2009 at 5:17 a.m. #184

kk cheers

Posted by Chemokeule on May 3, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #185

Hello,
im looking for some Ryu players who would like to spar with me. Im a Sagat player. Please contact me, or leave your nick here. My nick is Chemokeule

see ya

Posted by Hellrazor on May 3, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. #186

@ Korobar, the reason why the Shoryuken > Super > Ultra only combos for 10 hits is that the Ultra juggle only hits for 3. I've gotten the timing perfect and it only hits for three and then passes thru. Guess that's the game's way of balancing his juggle abilities.

Posted by ExCelius on May 8, 2009 at 6:10 a.m. #187

Chemokeule, I'd love to play against your Sagat but are you on PSN or Live? I'm on Live, name's ExCelius there. Feel free to add me.

Posted by b r 1 x on May 11, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. #188

i want evil ryu, shin akuma and shin gouken -.-#

Posted by RYU on May 13, 2009 at 2:01 a.m. #189

B R X 1, i will thrash u n destruy u, Shoryuken!!!!

Posted by b r 1 x on May 13, 2009 at 7:36 a.m. #190

dreamer

Posted by BRX1'S DAD on May 14, 2009 at 2:46 a.m. #191

SHORYUKEN SON, TAKE MY ADVICE, DON'T GO UP AGAINST RYU, LIKE HE SAID HE WILL DESTROY YOU BOY! IF YOU RESPECT ME SON, YOU WILL NOT TRY HURT YOUR SELF.

Posted by b r 1 x on May 14, 2009 at 6:02 a.m. #192

it is not cool to write posts under two different nicks and claim to be two different persons
and with 11 years you cant be my dad, sry
and it's is not that hard to read 4 letters

Posted by anti-shoryuken on May 21, 2009 at 2:24 p.m. #193

ryu blows! all the hadou-spamming, linking to the ultra after an SRK, and crossups cant make him win. maybe just switch to an advanced character like dan, yes ryu is that bad!

Posted by SSJ3X on May 22, 2009 at 10:26 a.m. #194

I think Ryu has excellent potential when it comes to using him, though I'm starting to see that with him, you have to play aggressive and take some risks here and there. The only time I don't see an aggressive Ryu is if he's fighting Blanka, to which timing is key for almost everything that Blanka throws at him. The same goes for Dhalsim, whose defense is ridiculously hard to get through with Ryu. And while jump-ins are good, he seems better off as a ground based character usually setting up attacks or baits.

Posted by L on May 26, 2009 at 7:44 a.m. #195

Jumping hardkick, crouching hard punch, hard punch shoryuken, cancel into super.

Posted by patrick gabriel on May 27, 2009 at 8:05 p.m. #196

i think ryu is a honorable fighter,but his ultra and super is kind of a little damage

Posted by BuSta ChuCkz SF4 Champion on May 29, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #197

here are the real combos man Jump HK, crouch MK, Hadouken.
Jump HK, crouch MK, EX Hurricane Kick.
"When Opponent is trapped in the far corner of the stage"
Jump HK, Stand Heavy Punch, EX Hurricane Kick,
EX Shoryuken, EX Cancel,Metsu Hadouken. "Note: this is the last Challenge for Ryu in Challenge mode."
"This is one cheap move if u know how to do it well."
When opponent is near Light Hurricane kick then when ur near them grab straight away as they will be blocking.
TNX FOR READING AND THIS STUFF WILL HELP SO FUKN USE IT AND LEARN HOW TO LOLZ.

Posted by BuSta ChuCkz SF4 Champion on May 29, 2009 at 8:29 p.m. #198

if u want anymore tipz I got more just ask lolz

Posted by Ryu on May 31, 2009 at 9:16 a.m. #199

I'D LIKE SOME PANCAKES!!!!!

Posted by Ryu on May 31, 2009 at 5:16 p.m. #200

Hadouken!

Posted by Shin Ryu on June 1, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. #201

AssassinMist86 on Xbox Live, Hit me up if you guys want good matches to tone up skillz. always lookin for a good match! ^_^

Posted by street jonesy on June 14, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. #202

there cool< but i want different tips then other sites

Posted by :( on June 15, 2009 at 2:18 p.m. #203

FADC is too hard for me to pull off, I can do it but Im too slow when dashing after the FA. And on top of that I have to do a move like metsu hadoken after. any tips on how to do it? maybe I need a stick...

Posted by FlamingFist on June 16, 2009 at 7:10 p.m. #204

What happened to Ryu's challenge videos?

Posted by grapez on June 17, 2009 at 12:08 a.m. #205

to :(

do it in steps

first do 10 shoryukens
then do 10 shoryukens into the cancel.
Then do 10 shoryukens into cancel into dash forward
then do 10 shoryukens into cancel into dash forward into metsu

after you get that down, just keep trying to do it in games and when you get used to it, try to reach quick enough so that when the shoryuken is blocked, instead of doing the metsu after, throw.

Posted by :) on June 17, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. #206

ok ^^ thx for the tip grape

Posted by :D on June 19, 2009 at 12:21 p.m. #207

finally learned how to do it, lol thxa lot grape (again).

Posted by NvS xCriSp on June 20, 2009 at 4:29 a.m. #208

Iam formerly BuSta ChuCkz Street Fighter 4 Champion.
im here to let out yet another combo of ryu's.
Jump HK, Crouch MK, Ex Hurricane Kick.
When opponent jumps towards you, Light Shoryuken then Ultra as fast as u can.
these two mofo combos save ur arse a lot of health and shhit so learn it if u haven't and use it.

Posted by NvS xCriSp on June 20, 2009 at 4:31 a.m. #209

Hmm i have a feeling the person who created this website has not yet studied the game enough if u ask me

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 20, 2009 at 5:47 p.m. #210

@ NvS xCriSp
those are basic stuff any decent Ryu should know...

regardless, simple and works! I suggest dont waste the bar for ex hurricane kick if ur not near corner unless u feel like u need to damage. Cause in corner u may connect ultra. On the light shoryus, i think u might wanna wait a few miliseconds before throwing out the metsu, cause sometimes i do it too fast and it whiffs lmao (ironic eh?) and especially in corner, do it too fast and ur not getting it in.

If you are able to cr.LP,cr.LK,Heavy Shoryu, then FADC into ultra ^^. Or any normal into heavy shoryu, fadc ultra.

Heres a tip! Try to charge up ur super bar for round 2(or whenever its charged). Ryu's super is exceptional at catching people's jumps! If u start zoning, ur opponent will be tempted to jump over your hados, if u got the reflexes, SHINKU HADOKEN! Dead on hit in mid air! Ofcourse, you got to time it, cause it may go too fast(flys under them), too slow(they land and block), timing is quite tricky, but practice and you'll got a great trick up Ryu's sleave...even though he doesnt have any, meh ^^

Lucy~

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 20, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. #211

and for those...learners.... Ryu's ultra and supers does more than enough damamge! Considering they are so dam easy to land!

Posted by woot# on June 21, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. #212

Doesnt say anything about Ryu being able to cancel a shoryuken into his super here. j.HK+cr.LP+cr.HP+SRK+Super He can even juggle with his ultra after that though it will only get 3 hits. But why isnt this listed or even mentioned?

Posted by Justice on June 21, 2009 at 10:54 p.m. #213

another good combo is:

Focus as there falling do a super than an ultra its a perfect combo

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 22, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. #214

@Woot#
any shoryu can instantly cancel into Ryu's super, hado into Super works as well.

@Justice
if u got a focus crumble on ur oppenent. Just ultra, dont bother super. Save it for something else. The damage on your ultra alone will be around the same(even more if ur revenge meter high) cause of damage scaling.

Lucy~ *sighs* still so much easier to win with Ryu compared to Chun...

Posted by stabicron on June 23, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. #215

They really need to take out at least some of ryu's links. He has way too many ways to link into super, ultra or ex fireball. Its retarded no one else has that many outside FDAC's

Posted by Don on June 24, 2009 at 9:57 p.m. #216

Go in a corner annnnd

Jumping HK
Crouching MK
EX Tatsumaki Senpukyaku
LP Shoryuken
EX Shoryuken.

Or, after the LP Shoryuken, you can Do Ryu's Super, then his Ultra. Either way you slice it, someone's bound to toss their controller down while everyone else laughs their asses off.

Posted by Woot# on June 25, 2009 at 8:23 a.m. #217

@Lucy
I know but I was wondering why its not mentioned here at te site.

Posted by 3D on June 25, 2009 at 9:49 p.m. #218

My bro is a state champion and his favorite combo is solar plexis strike,ex shoryuken,FADC,Metsu Hadoken. if you guys wanna good fight my GT for xbox live is TheNightmanPTR. just tell me you saw this post.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 26, 2009 at 2:58 a.m. #219

Gah, having a lil trouble doing BnB + heavy Shoryu FADC ultra on my new fightstick >.< might need to upgrade the parts to be more sensitive... still like the arcade machines better ^^

Ive also learned a few ways to use:
Slightly further from midrange, just hado zone and if u anticipate a jump over, FADC, then light shoryu and juggle ultra. And if they didnt jump and u FADCed, dont wry, it looks pro, so go ahead and pressure them lol

When using a BnB combo but too far away from shoryu connect range (to FADC ultra) it is possible to Ex Hado (fireball) and FADC forward and Ultra (so 3 bars of meter). The damage is not as great(i think?), cost 3 bars, and much more strict timing but it could be useful if u did a cr.MK poke and u think u are too far for the Shoryu to connect, this combo works. It can also be done anywhere on the screen, but ofcourse no point doing it in the corner cause fireball can go into ultra directly in corner.

Lucy ~ can win most arcade matches, but still have lots to learn ^^

Posted by Woot# on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. #220

Yeah the EX Hado to ultra does a bit less damage.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 26, 2009 at 2:07 p.m. #221

Yea, prob cause the fireball is 2 hits or something.

I need to learn the exact spot to do cross up hurricane kick, i can only do it sometimes. My friend who plays a much better Ryu than I can, can land it in some good pressuring situations. When i played him, we would force me into a low block with i think crLK,crLP,crLP then stop jump and cross me up with his hurricane kick (ofcourse he doesnt do this everytime). After a round or two, i could block a few, but its still a great tool to have. So im gonna try to learn the exact positioning in the air to get the cross up tatsu so i can get it at least 90% of time i need it next time i head to an arcade ^^

Posted by Warren warner on June 27, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. #222

wwarner10@yahoo.com

The combos good, they help alot.

thanks

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 27, 2009 at 8:35 p.m. #223

YAY NEW FIND!

I watched a daigo (Ryu) video earlier today, and in a round he tried to cross up hurricane kick (tastu) and shinku hado (super) but it only hit a few and whiffed most. As said above, i went to the arcade to practice my crossup tastu which i got pretty well down now. But i decided i will also try to do what daigo did with the super. I tried on the comps, first attemp whiffed, i shot it out too fast. But then when i started to time it, it landed full on for great damage from just a crossup tatsu! I also got it in 2-3 times against vs matches, which was quite satifying ^^

So heres how to do it: Cross up with a ariel heavy tatsu (gotta get the spot right) and when they are flying to the other side, use the heavy(fastest version) shinku hadoken and if timed properly, will hit all. Timing is a bit tricky, might need to practice a few times before u get it down. Chances are, u wont use this too much, but another good option to know to add damage to your crossup tatsu!

Lucy ~ yay! Please try these combos online at home, tell me how they work for you. Have fun ^^

Posted by dick on June 28, 2009 at 1:26 a.m. #224

that wont work scrotum.

Posted by jordan on June 28, 2009 at 12:28 p.m. #225

I cant get it to ultra move.. IT just doenst work

I do the regular special fire ball, but punch twice and it doenst work!
Can any1 help

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 28, 2009 at 10:45 p.m. #226

@dick
Maybe u just cant do it?

@Jordon
Well you know the motion. Try to do it slowly. Pull ur joystick/analog down and do 2 quarter circle towards nice and smoothly and then press all punch (light+medium+heavy punch)

Posted by Woot# on June 29, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. #227

crossup tatsu to super worked pretty good for me ^^ thx Lucy didnt know it was possible until I read ur post.

Posted by jordan on June 29, 2009 at 11:45 a.m. #228

yah i figured it out hjust afteri did it.. I was hitting it 3 times.. instead of all 3 at same time

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 29, 2009 at 2:20 p.m. #229

@Woot#
No prob. Good job ^^

@jordon
Good job to you too ^^

It seems like i went back to playing Ryu again instead of playing my Chun more >_> o well. Im just so much better with Ryu and those easy to do and land super and ultra lol

Btw, anyone thinking of buying the PC version of SF4 when it comes out? Cause since i dont have a console im kinda limited to that >.<

Posted by Woot# on June 29, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. #230

Yeah I think Im going to buy the PC version, though I think Im still going to be more on PSN, unless I get an arcade stick or something. I like playing Ryu or Rose.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on June 29, 2009 at 8:29 p.m. #231

Cool, maybe we can get a few matches together then. Do you know when its coming out? I know its soon, but not sure about exact date.

You should get a fight stick, one that works for both ur ps3 and pc. I have one for xbox and pc, it was cheap \^^/ like... $80, so even if i upgrade it for full Sanwa set, it'll still be like $130 which is pretty good.

Posted by Woot# on June 30, 2009 at 4:20 a.m. #232

No idea when its coming out, and yes a stick isnt really expensive but Im wondering if I would actually use it or not, never tried one before so I have no idea if I would like it, I like the regular ps3 controller so maybe I get something like that to pc.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 1, 2009 at 4:27 a.m. #233

Well i heard most people who are used to the controller dislike the stick when they first try it cause u have trouble doing the direction motions, or even knowing where the button is when u want to press it. But in my opinion, you should give it a shot man. After some practice you'll get the muscle memory in and your execution will be better than ever! I think especially cause street fighter has 6 buttons you gotta press, makes it that much more essential to have the buttons laid out together. But thats just my opinion, i grew up with arcade machines lmao ^^

2 times fail FADC ultra costed me 1 dollar! (2 games) or i had those games! I realised i panicked too much after the FADC and just went into a shoryu of some sort =/

Posted by Woot# on July 1, 2009 at 5:26 a.m. #234

I had problems learning to FADC too, now I just have some problems with EX hado to ultra midscreen but at least I get it right most of the time. I grew up on a farm xD no arcade machines out here lol.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 1, 2009 at 1:09 p.m. #235

I always find myself have more trouble doing the FADC ultra when im playing players who are much better than me lol.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 1, 2009 at 6:03 p.m. #236

I just ran my pc through the SF4 benchtool test and it seems everything will run smoothly as long as i keep model detail at mid, it looks slightly for plasticy. Its fine it i set it at high, but it lags during the opening speech of the character or during ultra cinematics.

If anyone else wants to try out the benchtool here it is:
http://www.destructoid.com/street-fig...

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 3, 2009 at 12:32 a.m. #237

ZOMG!!! Cammys!!! How the hell do you fight them? Lost to 2 decent-good cammys today, got really dam frustrated cause i just don't know what to do against them! i mean, they are not an existent character in the arcade version, so i dont have any experience with a Cammy that knows what he/she is doing. I'll probably figure out how to fight em after i get my own pc version, but before that; anyone got a tip or two?

Posted by Xos on July 3, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. #238

Which button should I press to continue after losing a fight? I am playing the PC version and tried all the keys on the keyboard but non works! I am really clueless regarding this

Posted by Woot# on July 3, 2009 at 11:58 a.m. #239

against cammy I usually just do hadoken/SRK as anti air. Her spinnuckle that goes through hadoken is so slow it rarely hits.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 3, 2009 at 3:49 p.m. #240

Ok thx Woot, i was trying that pretty much but my shoryus were just a tad too slow. The pc version is out? O_o

Posted by Xos on July 3, 2009 at 7:16 p.m. #241

Ya. Like 2/3 days. But I simply can't find the button which should be pressed to continue after losing a fight.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 3, 2009 at 7:34 p.m. #242

Oh, where are u at? Cause i dont think its out at my location, or at least i heard it wont be coming out yet. Its probably the start button i would think, just check ur button configs to see what it is.

Posted by Xos on July 4, 2009 at 1:11 a.m. #243

I live in Bangladesh and its been here for 2 days:D
Well I checked the config but there's no sign of START or anything. That's the reason am totally confused. Even I tried connecting the controller and press start button on it but nothing works.

Posted by adon's friend on July 4, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. #244

I'am a turtle fighter with ryu and of course I like to bait people into attackin but Vega is givin me problems need help?

Posted by cere on July 4, 2009 at 10:07 p.m. #245

Xos, try ESC key.

Posted by XsaintedsinerX on July 5, 2009 at 4:04 a.m. #246

Against cammy I use the FA wich seems to completely negate her spiral arrow if you are quick you can pop her before she can get her cannon spike off. As for vega it all depends on whos hands hes in a lot of vega players rely on you to stand back and throw fireballs all day. Be aggresive and you will catch them with short damaging combos and they will get frustrated and THEN you can start zoning them. As for the noobs who play blanka,vega,and bison who only use the same attacks over and over and over(ie bisons head stomp, vegas downward claw, and blankas blanka balls) BE PATIENT these tards will make mistakes. Just make sure you punish them severely and you will be suprised how quickley some people change thier game plan.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 5, 2009 at 4:48 a.m. #247

By the way my gamertag is XsaintedsinnerX on xbl i welcome all challngers and ryu fans.

Posted by Xos on July 5, 2009 at 8:41 a.m. #248

@cere. Thanks, it worked :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 5, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #249

Thx XsaintedsinerX. I utilize saving attack against a lot of characters, so i guess Cammy will just be another one. Well i dont think i can buy it for PC until the 7-9th i think is when it will be sold around here (Canada is always a bit late on everything) ~.~ but for now i downloaded a cracked version just to test my buttons out and get use to the pc, i dont suggest downloading it, BUY IT.

Btw, is a permanent subscription on Windows LIVE 100% free or will it be p2p?

Posted by adon's friend on July 5, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. #250

okay i need to throw fireballs more cuz I'am not aggressive at all but G1 I always get alot of points tho cuttyb87 PSN peace

Posted by adon's friend on July 5, 2009 at 8:30 p.m. #251

wtf is nerfed mean

Posted by sean on July 6, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. #252

I'm really good with sagat and with ryu but, every other character seems like a lost cause for me. Does anyone have any suggestions on another character i could get pretty good with? (NOT KEN for all you retards that are automatically gonna say him)

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. #253

@ sean
I would suggest F.Long. His general game is similar and his button combinations are the same and with his kick you still have that reflex anti-air attack you've grown accustomed to by playing ryu.His powerful overhead kick done at the right moments will also feel and can be used much like sagats knee.If you wanted to try a charge character i would suggest Guile. He has a good basic game but has the ability to do some pretty advanced combos and can put alot of pressure on your opponet in several ways. I use Guile quite a bit.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 6, 2009 at 4:22 p.m. #254

@adon's friend
nerfed essentially means made weaker because it was too strong or imbalanced.

@sean
Rufus? I think the fatty is a good choice because his moves and ultra are similar to ryu

Posted by sanwa boy on July 6, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. #255

Some1 please give me some tips on how to deal with Balrog boxer) using ryu..

Cheers

Posted by someone on July 6, 2009 at 6:22 p.m. #256

well ryu is good and i think fast but he is weak aldo i think being faster is better because in the middle of someone else attack he could counter fast

Posted by sean on July 6, 2009 at 8:18 p.m. #257

i have a question since you brought up guile, how do you do his ultra??? i don't quite understand his command input.

@ sanwa boy

it depends how you play, are you a turtle or do you usually run right up in boxer's face??? My idea is try the other than the one you usually do.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 9:57 p.m. #258

@ sean
Guiles ultra is certainly difficult vega has the same input. What you want to do is charge back and down at an angle,to release you want to go forward and diagonally down,go directly back where you started,and finaly forward and diagonally up.
For his flashkick super cancel its much easier. All you need to do is a flash kick input at an angle,then a normal flashkick input very quickly. Once you get his inputs down pat he is very fun to play.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. #259

@ sanwa boy
Fighting a balrog player can be a pain if they know what they are doing. The first thing you need to determine is he a turtle or an aggresive charge player(you should know right away by his starting move). After you have this established you can either start zoning or go right at him. Against most balrog players I find it best to do a bit a both. The trick is not to fall into attack patterns because balrog when played properly is a very quick character. Make sure you use your grabs I know it seems cheap but you will force him to release his charge and try to counter. Once you have him playing on your terms you can start utilizing more of your combos. He can also be a bit easy to read if not played right, just wait for a dash punch and knock the hell out of him for his trouble with an upercut DC combo.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 10:19 p.m. #260

Remember, ryu is the most balanced character in the game he has no truly bad match ups, only bad players. Playing him you are given more connections for you finishing attacks than any other character in the game. The best way to handle any fight is to figure it out as you go. You have so many options with ryu theres no reason to just do the same things over and over again. I have the most success with ryu by just comletely disrupting whatever plan my opponet has(ie a charge charcter cross up and often change sides,or just throw a few fireballs thier way, if you want to just sit there I'll gladly give you something to occupy your time with). Theres no real reason to have a plan for everyone, just have a good knowledge of what thier attacks do and what the recovery times are. Scrubby players and noobs fight with no real plan and you can't exactly plan for chaos, as for more experienced players they have a way of shutting down planned attack patterns quickly.

Posted by XsaintedsinnerX on July 6, 2009 at 10:36 p.m. #261

Forward+HP,shoryuken,FADC,EX hadoken,EX hurricane kick(it will connect anywhere on the stage)
clp,clp,cHp,light or EX hurricane kick
clp,clp,cmp,EX hadoken,ultra(in corner)
jump in HP,cHp,EX hurricane kick,EX hadoken,ultra(in corner you can also substitute an EX shoryuken after the kick if you are lacking gauge, or throw another EX hurricane kick after the hadoken.)
clp,clp,cmp,hadoken(a very safe short combo amd my fav because even if blocked it pushes your opponent away)
These are a few basic and effective combos and remember you can put a jump in attack or a safer forward mp before your light punches to suprise turtles

Posted by adon's friend on July 8, 2009 at 12:26 a.m. #262

Okay so thanks for the defination but who was nerfed on the game I think Able should be nerfed due to his and gief online play the lag really helps them out alot and

PSN name is CuttyB87 hit me up training lessons Ryu is my main but I can bounce around

Posted by XD on July 8, 2009 at 7:39 a.m. #263

Lol i just main Ryu 2 weeks ago...I was thinking geez I need other cha beside Abel XD

My PSN is : Thai-Pride
hit me if u wanna do a match

Posted by C'mon on July 8, 2009 at 7:53 a.m. #264

Some fight me I need to become the man with Ryu. He was always my first choice in every SF game..but the day SF4 came out..and saw Abel i was like omg his mine XD. Abel Ultra should be nerf abit..cuz its way to strong. I looked at some of u Retard Ryu or Ken or Sagat whos Think they can beast Abel easily by spamming...Keep this in mind are u just retard to trow fire ball at Abel when he have Ultra...! Thats 1 stupid move I've seen..alot Player do that..ok first round punish by Abel Ultra cuz u stupid enough to trow fireball. @nd round WTF, WTF u thinking trow that stuff again WTF..do some guys never learn geez.

ANyway do not underestimate Abel players like me cuz if u do 1 wrong shoryuken or fire ball! We would punish u hard with combo. or Worse Ultra which its a pain in the ass if landed on ur ass.

I SAY ALL THIS CUZ ITS SEEMS A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERESTIMATE ABEL PLAYERS! FOOL WE"LL PUNISH UR FIRE BALL

Posted by sean on July 8, 2009 at 9:51 a.m. #265

how many of you out there will purposely go easy on your opponnet without telling them and then will get a lecture from your opponnet then when you tell them you were going easy they think your lying.... the sad story of my life

Posted by sean on July 8, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. #266

how many of you out there will purposely go easy on your opponnet without telling them and they win and then you get a lecture from your opponnet then when you tell them you were going easy they think your lying.... the sad story of my life

Posted by Woot# on July 8, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. #267

@C'mon I will underestimate u, u seem to be retarded.

@sean I never go easy on anyone, people that cant play the game have to know they should at least be able to do something before they play online.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 8, 2009 at 2:43 p.m. #268

@sean i never go easy on people unless they are my personal friends OR its couteous in arcades when u can OBVIOUSLY beat the other side, let him/her win the middle round. But i wouldnt in online matches once i get game;today?

@Woot# lol @ ur comment to cmon

@C'mon ive been punished by that sort of ultra before, therefore, in any match with chun or able, i remind myself not to fireball when they got ultra. So if ur plannin to win that way, wont work against me!

Posted by beef on July 9, 2009 at 1:54 a.m. #269

going easy on your opponent is an insult to them and yourself. hasn't Ryu taught you the meaning of the fight yet. Always give your all or dont bother showing up.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 9, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. #270

IM SO ANGRY!!!! The game stores in my area had their SF4 pc release delayed to July the 17th!!! WTF!!! Im was really looking forward to play...

Posted by danjoru on July 9, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. #271

you should go down thier and Atomic Buster the store managers face

Posted by Akuma on July 10, 2009 at 7:43 a.m. #272

ryu IS NOT BETTER than gouki/akuma he hasn't trancended humanity lolz

Posted by dekto on July 10, 2009 at 7:45 a.m. #273

Why does an exshoryuken do less damage than a heavypunch shoryuken?

Posted by Woot# on July 10, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. #274

I cleared arcade mode with Ryu on hardest difficulty with 3 round setting and got 6 prefects 5 ultra finishes and first hit in all matches but didnt get to gouken after Seth... Is the requirements to get to him different depending on what difficulty u play on?

Posted by Woot# on July 10, 2009 at 12:46 p.m. #275

@Lucy aww I suffer with u, my computer crashed so now I just have a laptop from the stoneage :(

@dekto the EX shoryuken has more range and hits twice and lots of other juicy stuff, and Kens medium shoryuken does more damage than his flaming hard one cus the hard one has a lot more range and is really easy to hit with.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 11, 2009 at 2:57 a.m. #276

@Woot well at least you still got ur ps3 to play on ^^ and i got hit by a car last weekend so i cant rly go to the arcade either lmao

@dekto pretty much what Woot said, its just depends on ur situation. But u prob want to use the normal heavy shoryu for your solid combos in most occasions.

Posted by Woot# on July 11, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #277

u got hit by a car??!? damn, hope u get better soon. At least it doesnt seem too serious since u still post here but yeah... get better ^^ I want to fight you, you sure you dont want to buy a ps3? lol
btw... big LOL at #58...

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 11, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. #278

Yea im getting better. I really only have a broken pinky toe and some scratches on my side. I was lucky enough not to land on my head, thank god. I was actually considering a ps3 earlier on, but i thought it was pointless to spend an extra 400 bucks if it was coming out on pc. Looking forward to fight you too ^^
Yea i always find it funny how people call the best players in the world noob...it just doesnt make sense = ="

Posted by Woot# on July 11, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. #279

I think that rajman is a scrub and dont really know who they are... Sooo ur not buying a ps3... guess I better fix my computer and get sf4 then :P

btw Im from Sweden. its 1.30am here now, dont know the difference in time and stuff... thingy.
and btw again are u a girl? cus losing to a girl would make me sad ^^ lol just kidding

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 11, 2009 at 10:21 p.m. #280

Oh ic. I dont know the time difference either. Im in pacific time zone. And no, i am NOT a girl, probably opposed to what you though up till now >_> i use this tag for nearly every game i play, and my clan mates all call me lucy so if you want to continue to call me that its fine if you dont find it weird yourself.
Ive actually came across some girls who are pretty good. Its a rare sight, but you can find a few in arcades :P

Posted by sean on July 11, 2009 at 11:03 p.m. #281

im sad i live in a very rural area of the usa...where i live i can't get high speed aka no xbox live so aka no online play ugh...just waiting till i can get my own place and move to city and play sf4 all day long online. Those will be the days. Anyways is it just me or can basically everyone whose anyone beat sf4 on the hardest difficulty??? Because i did and i thought i was Awesome but, then i tried Super Turbo (original) and got owned by the computers everytime. Are the games totally different in difficulty or is the difference like playing candyland and scrabble...there nothing alike??? Let me know your thoughts people!

Posted by Woot# on July 12, 2009 at 3:07 a.m. #282

Actually Luucy I have found that guys seem to use girlnames more often than girls do ^^ and I dont know but ive never heard about a girl being so into a game, so figured u werent, would have been cool though since as u say its kinda rare.

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 12, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. #283

Yea its true that girls would usually use more general names. Girls can get into games though. Like this girl named Alice (shes dam hot too) always likes to go to the arcade with me just to play random stuff. And i know she plays a lot of games at home too.
2 more days till release (or at least the store person said)!!!

Posted by Demonbreeder on July 13, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. #284

@Sean I think arcademode is easier in SF4, on hardest I can just spam FA+throw all the time and win with a perfect.

Posted by adon's friend on July 13, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. #285

is there a way to combo the forward medium punch ( collar breaker punch) with Ryu they say u can but I can't yet? any tips

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 13, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. #286

@adon's friend
personally i dont think its possible. I have never seen daigo succeed or attempt a combo from Ryu's overhead punch. If it is at all possible, timing, spacing would be too strict. I suggest just use it as that random tricky little dmg dealer than trying to combo from it.

1 day left!!! or i will bomb the store if they lied

Posted by Woot# on July 13, 2009 at 1:45 p.m. #287

Can link the collarbone breaker to super, and to shoryuken but thats almost impossible.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 13, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. #288

oh rly? Ive never seen it, but thx ill try that. I just spent like a good 30 min practicing my execution for
rush punch, crLP,crHP, and hurricane. i could do it before, just want to make sure i can at least get it 75+%.
I can also link crMP,crMP,crMK. But only like can do it 30%, that crMK is hard to link

Posted by heredity on July 14, 2009 at 1:08 a.m. #289

gotta say the PC version is totally worth the money. but it's kinda hard playing with the keyboard. how people here are playing with a keyboard vs. a joystick?

i finally beat the Challenge Mode trials, both Normal and Hard. They took damn forever to complete:
Normal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rPQq...
Hard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fzy6T...

Please leave a comment if you can.

Posted by heredity on July 14, 2009 at 1:09 a.m. #290

mean to say Ryu's Challenge Mode, will be finishing the others soon.

Posted by Woot# on July 14, 2009 at 8:33 a.m. #291

Ryus super can hit from pretty much any attack, I killed my brother with a lp + super once and he got pissed that its so easy to link into it, and if u hit someone crouching with a jump attack u can hit them with the ultra.

Posted by Ronald on July 14, 2009 at 10:35 a.m. #292

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Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 11:40 a.m. #293

@Adon's friend,

Yes you can connect Ryu's forward Medium Punch with a Shoryuken, i did it a couple of times but i still don't know the timing, it is totally different timing with forward High Punch.

Looking for a good and cool players to play with on PS3

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. #294

I think facing Blanka, Balrog (Boxer)and Chun-li also Akuma is hard using Ryu (especially Akuma) many noobs just ran away and do air fireball then teleport when they get cornered, if any one has any tip playing against Blanka and Balrog please let me know.

Trying to figure out how to counter Blanka after his horizontal rolling attack, by the way his EX horizontal rolling attack goes through any fireball/projectile attacks including Ryu's super and ultra for those of you who didn't know.

Posted by Woot# on July 14, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. #295

You can punish fireballspammers from like half a screen away and I cant imagine someone doing it being good enough to determine the distance and teleport away.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 11:58 a.m. #296

@ Woot

Yeah, that works on some players but they barely teleport when we are away from them, but good thing is Akuma's defense/HP is not that great, so if you exchange fireball hit, you'll see that you did more damage compare to Akuma's

Posted by Woot# on July 14, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #297

By the Im not sure but you could also use the hard hurricane kick, I think that one goes through Akumas ground fireballs if timed right gotta do it after the hadoken is thrown but fast enough so u wont get hit before the move comes out, think Akuma doesnt have that good recovery on his hadokens, its a good way to deal with spammers.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 3:01 p.m. #298

Yup, I found 1 player who is superb using Akuma, he didn't just do spam but he knows how to completely blend all of Akuma's moves.

Any idea how to deal with Blanka?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 3:02 p.m. #299

Oh and if anyone wants to play with me on PS3, you can send me an invite. my user name is Shin_Arnoldo usually on after 6PM

Posted by adon's friend on July 14, 2009 at 8:40 p.m. #300

HAHAHA i played u before shin I think ur main is Ryu but I think u were Akuma lol CuttyB87 is PSn gamertag I'll try to add u later

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 10:35 p.m. #301

Yup, my main is Ryu but i'm not that good and i hate Balroq, always having problem fighting him and i hate his High head butt, takes too much damage :(

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 14, 2009 at 11:21 p.m. #302

Being absent for 15 years in Street fighter really makes your reflexes super slow :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 15, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #303

@Woot
Hurricane kick is good for akumas who spam ground fireballs, especially that fiery one. But most smart ones wont if you are already standing and can hurricane. Akuma's deadliest weapon is that flip kick thingy, still often confuses me :(

@Shin_Arnoldo
I havnt fought many good Blankas yet, most are easy to deal with so far. Maybe just dont fireball when u know they got ex bar? Or fake your hadoken, if you what i mean ^^. If they dont fall for that, idk, maybe random neutral jumps at full screen? Im not 100% sure but i think Blanka's ex roll is full screen, so it might not be 100% safe, but its a tricky timing if u do it out of random when he sits on charge.
I personally have trouble with Balrog too, not enough experience fighting them. But this is what my friend (Scrubbydan if u have heard of him) told me to do against balrogs:
Play hella defensively; keep distance and try to figure out his attack trends and what moves he uses often. If he uses dash punch/low dash push a lot using Saving to punish him for them. If he turn punches, just have your shoryu go at him, or block and poke/saving infront of him with some distance so his light punch dont rach (cause a lot like to sweep after). Usual rule, if he turtling dont jump into him; that cr.HP will hurt, and if you try to crossup him on wakeup, you might just get a headbutt up your ass! When they charge at you with an ex, get ready for your ex shoryu!

Thats about all i know. I am very sad, the store still doesnt have the shipment in, and they dont know when either :(

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 15, 2009 at 3:04 p.m. #304

Btw Woot i consider Ryu's super best in the game because if its easy link and possibilities to land!

I forgot to mention too, if Blanka's rolls (vertical or horizontal) are blocked, you can land your Shinku hadoken as they approach landing. Timing is a bit tricky

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 15, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. #305

Thanks for the tip Lucy, i know how to deal with akuma now as i have this online friend who is very good with using him, and one thing that you should remember is that if both players are on the edge of the screen and akuma did his heavy red fire ball DO NOT BLOCK IT !!! you should jump over it because if you do then he will do that ex jump forward thing and will throw you and you don't have a chance to counter attack but not too many people know this.

Does anyone uses a D-Pad? i have problems with it when i have my superbar full, everytime i'm on defending low and want to do a shoryuken it will do Super hadouken instead but if not full then it will do a shoryuken, sometimes it bugs me alot since it is not what i wanted it to do, not sure if you use an arcade stick

Balrog's turnaround is too quick, its hard to time it right, but going to try to do some thing against him and hopefully it will work...... assuming i will play against him that is LOL

By the way do you guys ever get someone cursing at you because you beat them?

Posted by Woot# on July 15, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #306

I got like 100 hatemails so far, mostly from crappy Ken players just spamming SRK. And today I met someone playing online that didnt even know what a special move is... In a ranked match.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 15, 2009 at 3:57 p.m. #307

@Shin_Arnoldo
yea i have a stick and it does do accidental super hado sometimes when i try shoryu, not that i mind, its just not what i wanted to do lol. Yea i tend not to block Hados if i dont have to. Neutral is great as long as you want to hold your position there, but chances are u dont with akuma.

Its like that in every game, if they cant beat you, they just talk sh!t and try to make themselves feel better. Lolz

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 15, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. #308

LOL, yeah, by the way do you play on PS3 Woot and Lucy? if so anychance i can add you guys as friend? i sent request to Adon's friend last night and not sure if he accepted it yet :P and when will EVO be held this year? is it in LA or New York?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 15, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #309

I dont have a ps3, infact i dont have SF4 at home yet, but will get on pc. I do know that Woot has SF4 on his PS3, so ask him. EVO is taking place in probably around 24 hours from now in Vegas!

Posted by sean on July 15, 2009 at 9:34 p.m. #310

btw i have finally chosen my honorable mention....if anyone wants to know! It's Blanka!!!!

Posted by Woot# on July 16, 2009 at 8:04 a.m. #311

Demonbreeder666 on PSN
though I had some trouble today, got logged out all the time. Dunno why. And why is everyone using Sagat in ranked matches? 99/100 matches is Sagat noobs doing random ultras and spamming tigershots... Its harder to play unranked LOL

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 16, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. #312

NOOOOO !!!!!!!!! Not Blanka !!! i have the worst record playing against him only have 54% win rate :((((

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 16, 2009 at 8:56 a.m. #313

@ Woot#
I think because Sagat is overpowered, it takes less hit to kill an opponent using Sagat and his recovery from tigershot is pretty quick and his ultra can juggle too :( also he is tall so people tend to kick early when they jump towards him

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 16, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #314

YAYAYAYAYAAY I GOT THE GAME!!! lol yea i owning up some rank matches. Out of around 20, i lost to 1 balrog, 1 blanka, 1 sagat and 2 dhalsim. For some reason, championship mode is quite laggy. :(
Woot get ur pc working soon ^^
Windows LIVE tag: LushyLushy

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 16, 2009 at 4:18 p.m. #315

Awesome, i wish you have ps3 :P

Posted by Shoryuken this on July 16, 2009 at 7 p.m. #316

There are way too many people that main Ryu. I know people flock to easiest most powerful character but it's getting ridiculous. Yeah Sagats more powerful but he is not as fun and a lot less people play him. Championship mode is not even worth playing anymore unless you want to play an army of Ryus. Please learn some other characters and help the community.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 16, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. #317

mmm that is funny, when i play Championship i get mostly Sagat or Ken or Balrog and some Ryus.

I do play other characters but i want to be able to master 1 first before going to the next one, even though you do have a point Shoryuken this

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 16, 2009 at 10:41 p.m. #318

@Shoryuken this
i think you're just crying...
Wins nearly 90% :)

Posted by Woot# on July 17, 2009 at 4:36 a.m. #319

Think its gonna take like a week maybe to get my PC working again, got my birthday in 6 days so Im gonna try get some new stuff for free lol.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. #320

awesome :D, i wish i can get one new pc but i sure hope to have 1 arcade stick tournament edition :D going to get that on my birthday ...... if my wife lets me that is LOL

Posted by adon's friend on July 17, 2009 at 9:08 a.m. #321

my ryu is getting hella better Cuttyb87 psn network

Posted by Shoryuken this on July 17, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. #322

Lucy,

I'm not crying. My win rate is around 80% and that's with using multiple characters. It just gets really boring fighting Ryu after Ryu. After Diago won that tournament in San Francisco. Everyone decided to main Ryu and most of them play the same way. I'm not trying to insult anyone that plays Ryu because he is the most balanced character and he's fun to play. My point is there are a lot more characters and it would be great to see more of them in Championship mode.

Posted by Shn_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. #323

@ adon's friend
I hope i can learn from you tomorrow :D what time do you usually gets online

@Shoryuken this
my win rate is just 70% i'm a noob LOL, strangely i get to fight little ryu when i play championship maybe about 15 to 20% only

Posted by Woot# on July 17, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. #324

Think my winrate is like 40%, my brother kicks my ass all the time.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 11:09 a.m. #325

You must let him win so that he won't get upset and gave up playing again :D

Posted by adon's friend on July 17, 2009 at 11:20 a.m. #326

I live in Cali so 2morrow would be at around 1 cuz I will be working an overnight shift so to avoid me cheaping our match with me being tired I will hop on at around 1 lookin forward to the match with my Ryu and urs?

@Shin Arnaldo who is ur main Akuma Right?

Posted by adon's friend on July 17, 2009 at 11:22 a.m. #327

whats a better way to croosup with RyU It seems he can be attacked after he lands

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. #328

@ adon's friend
Nope my main is Ryu :P and the best way to crossup with Ryu is using medium kick, that is the only one that you can do it with (well light kick too but not as effective).

If the opponents block the cross up then yes they can attack you after you land but if it is a hit then they cannot attack you unless the timing when your kick is too high.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 17, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. #329

I live in Cali too but 1 pm tomorrow might not good for me as that is the time that my wife wants to go out and i promised her but we'll see if i can do it maybe later during the day

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 17, 2009 at 4:41 p.m. #330

@adon's friend and Shin_Arnolo
Personally i think the lite kick is a better cross up. It comes out faster, and it can be done deeper than the medium kick. The medium kick also enlarges ur hitbox while the lightkick doesnt and has a good downward vertical range. Both are good, but light kick is the better cross up choice in my opinion.

@Shoryuken that
ok. Sry for saying what i did earlier. I play other characters to fool around but will only play Ryu if i want to win because i know his links better. I agree with Arnoldo though, i dont see too many Ryus either, like 10%.

Posted by adon's friend on July 17, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. #331

okay I see we have an audience lol my main is Ryu and in Alpha I pick Adon but my prob is stf4 is that Ryu isn't as dominate as he use to be with his dragon punches but ill still manage to turtle up alot and rushdown when nesscary but I need to work on my cross-up game alot more any more tips I like the medium kick but sometimes my timing is off and I get countered alot

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 18, 2009 at 12:21 a.m. #332

guess just work on ur timing then ^^

Posted by adon's friend on July 18, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. #333

I won 2 G1 championships yesterday and I did work on my cross up game and it worked alot more I beat 3 sagats 2 chun' li's Guile's and Giefs on my Road to awesomeness but I noticed the closer to the ground the better for a cross-up normally I don't accept bad connections but thats all I was getting last night lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 18, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. #334

Oh nice. I just got into G2 today. I think im a long way away from G1 lol. I realise i too have the most trouble with balrogs. My win win rate for that is like 36%, probably gonna get lower

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 20, 2009 at 8:49 a.m. #335

@adon's friend
I wish i can play with you so i can learn :( but you weren't on last night, maybe today? is it true that you need to win at least 100 G2 championship before you can go to G1? was it at 15000 points? i can only play few games a day

Posted by Adons friend on July 20, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. #336

Yea its 15,000 and I seen ur vid Shin_arnaldo ur damn good and u played hard on the comeback and got the W so I do want to play u just stay online when I played last night u logged off an hour before I got home from work lol

Posted by Adons friend on July 20, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. #337

Yea its 15,000 and I seen ur vid Shin_arnaldo ur damn good and u played hard on the comeback and got the W so I do want to play u just stay online when I played last night u logged off an hour before I got home from work lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 20, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. #338

i think i still got a lot to learn. Players at finals of G2 gives me difficulties. One thing about the pc version is that it seems more laggy than the consoles ones, which really gets me. When i went back to arcade mode to unlock some stuff, it seemed like i was playing on turbo or something O_o

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 20, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. #339

@adon's friend
Lol, i just got lucky and not sure if it was a good match too me it was boring, what time do you get home from work? i'll be online tonight and hopefully you can teach me a trick or 2 :P

@Lucy,
The problem with pc in many games is that if your pc is superfast then your game tends to be faster, console has the same standard, lagging can be caused by many things that is why i don't like playing this kind of game on pc but they do have better graphics, and i found a little trick to fight against balrog, if they dash and you happened to be on the other end you can actually toss them before they hit you but its hard to do, but this only works if they use medium or heavy attack though

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 20, 2009 at 7:28 p.m. #340

yea thats prob why. Yea ive gotten that throw thing a couple lucky times but i wouldnt rely on it >_>

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 20, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #341

Played with adon's friend today, he is awesome and i learnt alot

Posted by adon's friend on July 20, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. #342

I'm good but I need to fine tune some things but my ryu is getting better but I do want to learn how to pick Akuma for some reason lol. But Shin Arnoldo is good and some parts better than me lol u got skill

CuttyB87 PSn tag

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 20, 2009 at 11:04 p.m. #343

u guys sound a lot better than me XD

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 21, 2009 at 8:11 a.m. #344

I know a great Akuma player and he is a cool guy too, I have him on my friend list, but don't remember his user name on top of my head, I'll ask him if he wants to play with you. trust me he is not an ordinary Akuma user.

and I think I need to remain super calm, I get paniced to esasily LOL

Posted by adon friend on July 21, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. #345

@ Shin Arnaldo I notice u try to fadc alot to get back in the match normally I would attempt to do it but I need the timing but try to play defensively and make ur opponent make the mistake and counter it RYu has enough defense and alot of punishing offensive moves if they mess-up

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 21, 2009 at 9:46 a.m. #346

hehe, yeah that is my favourite move.

I always have problems when people starts to do that focus attack, I'm not used to that, last I play was 15 years ago and it was Hyper fight/dash. just started playing SF4 about 2 months ago.

Next time I will be better :D

Going to work out on chain combos if I have time that is Lol

Posted by adon's friend on July 21, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. #347

@ shin arnaldo chain combos for Ryu should end up either in a hadoken or shoryuken, and maybe a hurricane kick and if u notice I play to the corners alot more baiting people and fighting in the corner and its possible to ultra everyone after 1 of those attacks in the corner and your chain combos are good I need my poke strings to be as good as urs

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 21, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. #348

Yup, I would like to keep them on the corner but sometimes when I get panic (very easily) I tend to forget everything and become clueless (not to mention my daughter and my wife bugging me :P)

and I almost never play against player that uses Ryu's forward High Punch, that thing takes lots of damage

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 21, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. #349

Its a nice move to throw out there sometimes due to its high priority. Some people think they can counter it in time but you end of hitting em, or if blocked u have a chance to mix it up here.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 21, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. #350

Yeah and adon's friend caught me with tons of those

Posted by adon's friend on July 21, 2009 at 6:12 p.m. #351

thats my favorite way to land the shoryuken and since I played with Shin Arnaldo I started fadc and using my ultra and I won a championship after my matches with Shin Arnaldo good sparring

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 22, 2009 at 10:28 a.m. #352

What is the best way to deal with Sagat's forward jump using medium punch?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 22, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #353

For if your jumping at him as well? Maybe Ryu's forward jump hard punch? Comes out fast and has good priority. I know Ryu's hard kick gets beaten by Sagat's, at least i think so

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 22, 2009 at 3:18 p.m. #354

Naw, I was on the ground, my reflexes is not as quick as 15 years ago so having problem doing shoryuken and I use a D-Pad that makes it harder to do

Posted by adon's friend on July 22, 2009 at 4:26 p.m. #355

When I fight Sagat I try to block the attack and since they almost always try to follow it up with a tiger uppercut I punish them after it. and try to stand up and up and dodge incoming fireballs and jump in on him

I like beatin sagat when I'am the aggressor don't wait

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 22, 2009 at 9:16 p.m. #356

a good sagat wont let you jump in on them w/o doing at least a trade with you (and he will do more dmg). I was bored today so i went through Cammy's trials, and started playing her online and its so much fun, ofcourse not as good as my Ryu, but shes just fun, sadly her crossup kinda sucks (i know this doesnt belong in Ryu section but you guys are cool lol) My sagat win ratio is 67% just now, 2nd lowest, balrog still far lowest lol

Posted by adon friend on July 23, 2009 at 12:14 a.m. #357

I understand man I have alot of akuma's trials done and I like to use him but I like to fight and I hate spamming fireballs all day so Shin_ arnoldo beat me 2 with my akuma

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 23, 2009 at 8:40 a.m. #358

Playing Akuma is not as hard as I used to play him ever since I played with that guy (forgot his username but on my friends list), basically you must be brave enough to trade hits with Akuma, if he jumps do a fire ball on him, depending on his distance use different speed, even if you get hit by his fire ball, you will lose less health compare to him, especially if you do a ex fire ball, and if you can time it right you can trade his air fire ball with your super or even ultra, did it many times.

Getting better on playing against balrog now, but only against average balrog player, beat 2 to 3 of them yesterday, but i can tell that they are an average balrog user.

Posted by adon friend on July 23, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #359

against balgor i like to use my medium kick to stop him from running end and don't try to trip him alot cuz his buffalo headbutt goes through everything

Posted by Ken on July 23, 2009 at 8:10 p.m. #360

Hi,
I've been lurking around this page for about a week, and i must say all the information is really helpful.

Can somebody spar with me if they have time? I would definitely like to improve my Ryu.
THanks!
Ken
username on PSN - STNKEN
i'm usually on after 9 pm PST

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 24, 2009 at 8:21 a.m. #361

@Ken
Not sure if I can play after 9 pm and I am not that good but will be glad to have a sparring friend. I'll try to add you tonight but will need to get wife's permission to play :P

Posted by adon's friend on July 24, 2009 at 8:22 a.m. #362

@ Ken okay I will go some rounds with are u in G1 or G2? sparring with friends can really haelp ur game alot and get ur execution down

Posted by Shuusui on July 24, 2009 at 10:27 a.m. #363

About that crossupdiscussion, I mostly use HP, find it more effective than the others against most characters.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 24, 2009 at 12:05 p.m. #364

You guys and your PS3s, im jealous lol

@Shuusui jump in HP you must be slightly infront of your opponent to land the cross up. Yes it does the most damage, and longest stun, but it also leave you most vulnerable for wake up watevers. Plus the spacing on the cross up is harder than the others.

Do add to that discussion, yea i have to use medium kick more often now cause in slightly laggy games i dont seem to have 100% timing on my cross up light kick. I still do it sometimes, but have to use medium kick a bit more. Especially if i want to do a standing hard combo after

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 24, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. #365

@Shuusui
HP doesn't work well against Sagat's air medium punch

@Lucy
you should buy a ps3 so that we all can play together :D

Posted by adon friend on July 24, 2009 at 5:28 p.m. #366

I use the HP against zangief and I beat his lariet with alot and when we trade on the shoryuken I go staright in to my ultra

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 24, 2009 at 8:05 p.m. #367

I was going to, but i need to save my money. I cant get a job for at least another year cause i need to focus on studies. My saving are running low already, cant afford to spend that extra 400.

HP on jump in on his lariot? It would work if hes already in lariot i guess

Posted by Ken on July 24, 2009 at 10:20 p.m. #368

@Adon Friend and Shin Arnoldo

what's your sn's?

i'm a G2-D

Posted by Adon friend on July 25, 2009 at 2:50 p.m. #369

@Ken I'am G1 E haven't been playing lately but whatever adn my Gamer tag is CuttyB87

Posted by Shoulder Throw on July 26, 2009 at 5:03 a.m. #370

Hey can anyone help me am looking to find out how to do the shoulder throw.thanks

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 26, 2009 at 8:12 a.m. #371

@Ken
I'm at G2-C but only play 2 to 3 championships when i have the chance, my user name is Shin_Arnoldo

@Shoulder Throw
Standing next to opponent (neutral or forward) and press both low punch and low kick together

Posted by adon friend on July 26, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. #372

I seen some vids on how to link ur collar breaker punch into a shoryuken and I can do it but not with consistence

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 26, 2009 at 2:13 p.m. #373

@Shin_Arnoldo
you mean light punch + light kick right? ^^

@adon's friend
maybe i should practice collar breaker into shoryu too. Approximately what would the spacing be?

Posted by moves on July 26, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. #374

is there antwere else i can find more info on how to do more moves?

Posted by adon's friend on July 26, 2009 at 7:43 p.m. #375

@lucy... its like not far but close enough to hit them with both punches lol naw but honestly hella close try to like punch to help the link or a standing light kick works also

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 27, 2009 at 9:46 a.m. #376

@Lucy
Yes, you are right

@Lucy and adon's Friend
It is totally kinda hard and not always effective as the Shoryuken doesn't really hit properly and damage is kinda low (it doesn't hit like when you do the forward High punch and then shoryuken)

Posted by adon friend on July 27, 2009 at 11 a.m. #377

@ Shin Arnodlothats a move for when u r trying to fadc and go straight for the win cuz when I figure out the correct spacing I will let all the RyUs know or maybe I wont lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 27, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. #378

@adon friend
lol you meanie, jk :P yea i was thinking if that shoryu is FADCable, then it would have quite the use if you can do it pretty solidly. Get up and overhead...wait a second, i lost 1/3 bar? lol seems like something good to know for sure. Right now im not confident to linking anything to it so i just go for the low medium kick poke into hado, it works a lot too lol. Actually, ive seen daigo do 2 collerbreakers in a row as mixup (not linked ofcoz). but its a nice mixup if they think you going for the low again

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 27, 2009 at 3:40 p.m. #379

@Lucy and Adon's friend, you can FADC if it hits on the starting animation but when you do the collarbreakers, the shoryuken doesn't hit on the first animation, it was kinda on the way to the air, but i could be wrong, will do some testing later on

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 27, 2009 at 10:20 p.m. #380

ok good luck ^^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 28, 2009 at 8:28 a.m. #381

collarbreakers to shoryuken will only works if the opposition is on a standing mode, if he crouches the shoryuken can be blocked, i did the recording mode and tested it already and yes you can fadc to ultra with it but again they have to be on a standing position

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 28, 2009 at 2 p.m. #382

i guess that kinda defeats the purpose of the overhead punch. But might as well know the combo if they decide to get hit by it anyway while standing

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 28, 2009 at 4:18 p.m. #383

Yup but trying it is not a good idea, as its either you failed success or failed and get hits in counter attack

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 28, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. #384

yea i guess

Posted by adon friend on July 28, 2009 at 6:44 p.m. #385

i think thats what happened when i played my brother he stood up and it looked like he wasn't moving oooooo

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 29, 2009 at 8:04 a.m. #386

woohoooo I beat 3 Balrog to win 2 championship yesterday :D

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on July 29, 2009 at 12:47 p.m. #387

Congratz ^^ my balrog win rate is like 50+% now, still my lowest, but a lot better than before :)

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 29, 2009 at 2 p.m. #388

Becareful of his overhead dash attack it connects with his low punch/kick then headbutt

Posted by adon friend on July 29, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #389

wow u guys are so into street fighter its not funny maybe I should play more currently I been playing gears of war 2 but I should get on after work tonight

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 29, 2009 at 10:52 p.m. #390

well besides SF i play a lot of DotA if you guys know what that is lol. I gained like 1k GP today :)

Posted by Woot# on July 30, 2009 at 7:19 a.m. #391

PSN is getting lamer than ever, I guess I prefer playing on computers cus theres not a ton of 8year old scrubs constantly whining about losing. Think I have like 30 players blocked now... Yawn

Posted by Woot# on July 30, 2009 at 7:56 a.m. #392

btw, if you land a LP Shoryuken and then an EX Hadoken in the corner, can you juggle with the ultra?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 30, 2009 at 8:15 a.m. #393

@adon's friend
I only play for a bit, not much time to spend like 15 years ago max like 2 hours that is if i'm lucky enough

@Woot#
looks like you get more than I do, i have 2 so far but i don't really play that much and yes after low shoryuken then ex hadouken you can juggle with ultra but the distance has to be very close but ultra will not hit everything (not 8 hits) and we all know that Ryu's ultra does the most damage on the last hit.

but depending on where you hit, if you hit them on the ground then you can do it but if you hit them on the air, better if you go directly into Ultra

Posted by adon's friend on July 30, 2009 at 9:27 a.m. #394

@ Shin Arnaldo yea man I was like 5 when I first started playing street fighter 2 and I was a fireball guy all I did was throw fireballs when Ken and do his grab roll I was good but to bad those days of just playing is now over lol

@Woot# If the player is in a juggle state RYU can land his ultra with ease

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 30, 2009 at 10:28 a.m. #395

Yeah i missed those days (kinda except for losing on that semifinals on national championship in aussie (so they say) out of 10,000 people for 3 days cost me 2 weeks of no sleep wondering why did i lose), i retired pretty much after that only playing for fun not competition

Posted by Woot# on July 30, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. #396

Thanks Arnoldo, yeah the last hit on ultra doesnt connect, same with the fadc from EX hado midscreen, but its easy enough to combo into a shoryuken and FADC so thats not a big deal. Just want to find some new combos to try ^^

I play like 9 hours a day, though I have noticed that when its night here, a lot of good players are online. Most annoying thing is that I have friends playing on PSN, XBL and on PC so now Im thinking of buying it to everything lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 30, 2009 at 1:58 p.m. #397

@Woot#
lol, yeah i used to spend about 5 to 7 hours a day playing on arcade

if you want to try new combo you can do whatever combo then shoryuken to super then ultra, it works everywhere but the ultra only hit 3 times, but it is handy when you did it until super and saw that they still have a little life left thinking they can make a comeback but suddenly ultra appears and kill them off instantly :D did that quite a number of times. it just look cool though

if you want to be fancy you can do this (in the corner) FA lv 3, then forward HP, crouch low punch, standing medium kick, hadouken, FADC, crouch medium punch, crouch heavy punch, Heavy Shoryuken, FADC then ultra :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 30, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. #398

@Woot# just get the pc version to play with me lmao.

@Shin_Arnoldo
Yea, i just did that to a couple guys, its pretty funny, cause that ultra at the end does like... half a centimeter of damage lol, but enough to kill if necesary.
Wow that combo looks intense lol, be funny to ever pull something like that off in a match fully linked, it'd look so pro lmao

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 30, 2009 at 3:37 p.m. #399

@Lucy
yeah, i did a different version once and it is kinda cool, but nothing can be remembered :(

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 30, 2009 at 7:40 p.m. #400

ive done crMP, crMP, hado FADC something to shoryu FADC ultra before, just for fun.
Oh, sometimes i try to do crMP,crMP,crMK, hado for fun, its a lot of damage for 3 hits (excluding hado)

Posted by help wanted on July 31, 2009 at 2:19 p.m. #401

how do you counter bison's ex headstomp with ryu?

Posted by Woot# on July 31, 2009 at 2:23 p.m. #402

@help wanted You dont counter it.

Posted by help wanted on July 31, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #403

how do i counter regular headstomp?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on July 31, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. #404

@help wanted
There are a few tricks to over come it but its not that easy

1. you can jump backwards and do a quick high kick (depending on where you are)
2. dash backward / walk backward (dash is better) they will land in front of you and you should be able to counter as he land (but this also depends on where you are) if he did the headstomp you should be walking backwards as you press back, if he did with the punch then you will be on the block mode)
3. you can do ex shoryuken (but timing and distance are important)
4. blocking is the best option if you are not to sure what to do (since he can only do a maximum 4 times with full bar, you don't lose much hp blocking it)

i'm sure there are other ways to counter it but i hope this helps

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on July 31, 2009 at 7:27 p.m. #405

@help wanted
probably the dash back or jump back hard kick are the best or at least easiest options. Cause even if it is the purple hand, if your jumped back he cant hit you i think. Oh btw, the hand is Savingable if he tries to hit you with it, most dont, but they might once in a while.

My problem with bison, when i get scizor kick pressured by a good bison, i dont know what to do, i just end up trying to jump away, which doesnt always work. Maybe i try to shoryu, but sometimes the time i put in command i get hit by the sizors. Sometimes he goes for the ex headstomp if he predicted my jump >_> yea bison is now my 2nd worse matchup

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 1, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. #406

@Lucy
against sizors kiock best if you block it, depending on their distance after that kick you can do certain things

if they land too far away from you don't do anything, if they land not so far you can do light punches, if they land near you, you can always go forward and toss them (i pretty much get them very often with this one)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 1, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. #407

yea i know. It usually depends how well they know their sizor pressure me if i win or not, i do punish them for bad sizors. And maybe its just me, sometimes bison's crossups confuse me

Posted by adon friend on August 1, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #408

Bison is easy heere's way spam fireballs and he has to jump he is strong but doesn't have alot of defense rush him and since he is a charge character he needs time for his moves and 1 more thing if u keep jumping in on him his ex head stomp or his regular stomp have priority on everything just just dash back and grab

I need help on beating rufus not alot of people use him so I have a odd time beating him

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 1, 2009 at 3:25 p.m. #409

Rufus is kinda weak on cross up, and his diagonal jump kick you can block down i think, try not to jump in on him as his kick is quick, zoning him is the best option

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 1, 2009 at 3:41 p.m. #410

@adon friend
Yea ill have to agree with Arnoldo, zone him as much as you can, but Rufus can get to you quick with dive kick and spin thing. Try to saving his messiah kick and sometimes dive kicks. If he divekicks you to cross you up, i think shoryus usually dont work (not sure) but you can spam standing LP on wake up and itll hit him out of divekick lol. Be conservative about jump ins

Posted by Ken on August 1, 2009 at 5:57 p.m. #411

@Shin_Arnoldo

what was the 5 hit combo that you use?
was it...jump kick, crouch SP, crouch MP, crouch MK, fireball?

also,
i noticed when i played you, you were able to use the dragon punch (while i was jumping toward you) really late. is this more of a timing thing? or does the medium dragon punch have more priority than small dragon punch?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 1, 2009 at 7:42 p.m. #412

@Ken
Jump Medium kick (overhead), crouching light kick, crouching light punch, crouching medium punch then hadouken but you can have many variation of course

It is a timing thing but also some you got hit because you didn't attack me and i do not use medium but high dragon punch (higher priority i think)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 2, 2009 at 1:40 a.m. #413

@Ken
yea that combo you described looks impossible, or if it was, it would be godly. Like a 300 dmg from just normals lmao
The medium dragon punch really has no use imo, the hard does the most dmg, highest priority, furthest hit range, therefore best for FADC and light has good juggling setups if used for anti air... but medium... just... has nothing specifically useful about it.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 2, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. #414

@Lucy
Actually there is a little use for it but doesn't happen much

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 2, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. #415

oh really? what is it?

Posted by adon friend on August 3, 2009 at 9:41 a.m. #416

Hey Ken I will love to play u I also learned alot after playing shin arnaldo hit me up CUttyb87

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 3, 2009 at 1:14 p.m. #417

@Lucy
Not telling :P lol, well basically it is good against someone who did a neutral jump, and when you do it at the right moment you can follow up with ex hadou/super

@Ken
if you play adon's friend becareful when he jumps towards you and do a high/medium kick, next you know he will toss you :D but he didn't do that if he land close to you though :P and when trapped in the corner and you are down, don't try to counter as he like to use crouching medium kick then ex tatsumaki then ultra :P and careful of his forward high punch, he likes that alot :P he is a calm type player only by uncalming him then you can win :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 3, 2009 at 3:13 p.m. #418

oh really? I must try it XD thats awsome

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 3, 2009 at 8:39 p.m. #419

@Lucy
I meant with super only :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 3, 2009 at 9:57 p.m. #420

oh its cause it goes higher than the light. ICIC :)

Posted by adon friend on August 4, 2009 at 9:32 a.m. #421

Wow Shin u told my secrets to be a great st4 player its all about the set-ups and counters lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 4, 2009 at 9:42 a.m. #422

LOL, i'm sure you already have the counter of all those set-ups hehehee

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 4, 2009 at 3:38 p.m. #423

A friend of mine said if a guy is trying to tick throw you a lot, dont bother trying to tech, remember his tick throw patterns and uppercut them lol. People can pretty much pull a lot of successful tick throws on me in first match, but after i start teching more. But i cant uppercut that fast usually lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 4, 2009 at 4:05 p.m. #424

Tech is better than countering in my opinion, counter is good too but sometimes they just pretend to tick and throw waiting for that uppercut to come, unless you have 2 bar of ex, it is not safe to do uppercut if it gets blocked unless you are100% certain that he will do a throw. few reasons are :

if you tech it you will need to press the throwing button, so if they did the tick and then wait for you to do shoryuken so that they can punish you for it, when you press the button, they will get throwed - you score :D

second if they did a chain command, you will still guard and you don't actually throw them but you are safe and if they fail to chain, you can actually throw them (depending on the range)

last if they did the throw you did a tech, you don't lose any HP but you will have a distance from them and from there you can decide your next move, by doing this often you will find that they will get frustrated and tend to lose their focus on the game.

if you use a pad, from blocking down then uppercut you are more likely to do a super (if you have full meter) rather than shoryuken unless you go to neutral first.

but if you have 2 bars then you can always do a shoryuken to counter and if they blocked it you can FADC then retreat or go forward to push for another attack or just keep on FADCing

but of course this is my opinion only

Posted by adon friend on August 4, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. #425

wassup yall I got the fadc down to a science care to c it

Posted by nomeUF on August 5, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. #426

Adon, ive been working on the same. Add me on xl is anything. my name is my tag.

Posted by adon friend on August 5, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. #427

@ nomeUF I have the gAME ON THE ps3 so I don't have it on the x-box360

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 5, 2009 at 10:17 p.m. #428

i think so too. He plays Sagat so somehow he always has bars for FADC lol. He did almost beat Jwong at evo. I went for a visit to the arcade today, havnt been for a while. my friend just came back from Japan so i got to spar with him :). I beat his viper once, then i lost 8 times lol, and he only played her for 4 days he said. He mains Ryu, and i was in awe when i saw him play against a extremely good Guile friend of mine. He has 33k BP in japan ranking. I hope i get to learn from him, as i do in all games i played at the arcade :)

Posted by Adon friend on August 5, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #429

@ Lucy what are u talking about?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 6, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. #430

Nothing really important, just some friend of mine. Just saying i have friends who are really good that i can learn from :)

theres a little tourney in my area this weekend...but what is stupid is...we arent allowed to bring our own fightpads/joysticks. We have to use their xbox controllers...and...i cant FADC ultra on controllers :(

Posted by adon friend on August 6, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. #431

really where I would love to go to a street fighter tourney lol I have it on the ps3 tho

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 6, 2009 at 10:07 p.m. #432

its in a london drugs (store) lmao

Posted by anthony rene perez on August 7, 2009 at 11:57 a.m. #433

i agree to the very first comment ryu needs to have a gudd speciall it not even fun usinqq it and its easy to dodge

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 7, 2009 at 1:47 p.m. #434

@anthony rene perez
um...no? its the best special in the game lol. It has so many setups where you can easily land it for a very solid 300 damage.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 7, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. #435

*super* i mean

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 8, 2009 at 12:26 a.m. #436

ok wish me good luck @ tourney tmr ^^ i hope i do well considering i cant use controller :(

Posted by adon friend on August 8, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. #437

@ Lucy use that ryu like no other good luck

Posted by Woot# on August 8, 2009 at 1:18 p.m. #438

Huge LOL at people saying Ryus super is easy to dodge, can be canceled/linked into from pretty much anything, all specialmoves, nromalmoves and uniquemoves. And it can be used as an antiair... guess you do it from full screen anthony?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 8, 2009 at 10:13 p.m. #439

yay i won :) :) :) lol, no prize money since it was free but i get this funny looking plaque and chun li figure. The entire time i couldnt FADC ultra until the last round of finals, but sadly he was in corner and i did it too early and it missed lol.

Posted by adon friend on August 9, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. #440

@ Lucy Wow good job man if I was their u still would of won lol go Ryu

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 9, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. #441

thx ^^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 10, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. #442

Is Lucy a guy!? I always thought that Lucy is a girl lol, anyhow congrats Lucy you deserve it :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 10, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #443

Im a guy, been over this with Woot :P

Something new to add: Crouching Shoryuken

Some of the shortcuts to the shoryu motion allows for a perfect shoryu from crouching position. I didnt know before, but this actually gives a big frame advantage. For example, if your opponent is going for a jump in (kind of infront of you) and you did a standing fierce shoryu, the two would trade hits, then you could ultra ofcourse. But if you did the crouching shoryu you would land the hit/counter hit without taking damage, and still go for the FADC ultra if you like. Considering ultra setup, you might think its a waste of 2 bars of meter, but that health you save is more important imo. And you can save that health everytime, not just the one time you want to land the Metsu. This is also a safer way to use the shoryu to counter Hurricane kicks with a stronger hit + ultra opportunity instead of just like crMP or crHP. I know it can also hit crossup, but i have not been able to do that yet, everytime i try i just get hit for the intire combo >_>, but i know it works.

Ive been practicing it, dont have it 100% yet, sometimes i try doing it and maybe cause of input lag i get hit for a painful jump in combo, but watever, its practice. Oh, the shortcut motion i use for this is; cr.diagonalFW/cr.Down/cr.diagonalFW. If you get use to using this motion, all your Shoryus will be crouching, which is good. Standing shoryus dont have any special advantages over the crouching one. ^^ hope this helped some people, and sorry for the long write-up, but i like to write more in-depth :P

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 10, 2009 at 1:52 p.m. #444

@Lucy,
It is the same Lucy, standing / crouching, the only differences is that when you are on a standing mode you tend to do it earlier since of course your opponent tend to kick/punch you earlier since you are higher compare to crouching, but if you did it at the right time, it barely trades at all. By crouching, your opponents tend to have his attack done already that is why you barely trade any hits but it still can trade, the problem with crouching is if you time it off, your opponent will already land and thus your srk will be blocked which results to .... if you don't have 2 bars to fadc it.

but it is very handy especially when you have them very close to you (like landing within your space)

Posted by Nashika on August 10, 2009 at 2:16 p.m. #445

Sometimes when I do j.HP c.MP c.HP EX tatsu to ultra in the corner, in the middle of the tatsumaki the opponent ends up on the wrong side and can block it or is send flying across the screen away from the corner, even though it hits. Can anyone explain why that happens?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 10, 2009 at 3:45 p.m. #446

@Nashika
It happens because the opponent get to far away after your cr. high punch, you must do it very close to the body so the timing and placing after you air attack is very important

what ex tatsu does is that the kick that hits will take the opponents to the otherside and so on so on for 5 hits it think but when an opponent get to far the kick that suppose to hit misses so they can guard. if you misses the final kick then the opponnent will be tossed away from the screen on the other side.

i hope this help

Posted by Nashika on August 10, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #447

Ok, thx Arnoldo ^^

Posted by adon friend on August 10, 2009 at 4:25 p.m. #448

I heard there is a big announcement coming soon and I hope its good news for RYU players lol I'm looking for a good match havig been playing in a while my execution is rusty but I need to sharpen my skills anytakers

PSN cuttyb87
I still need to play KEn lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 10, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. #449

@Arnoldo
a big announcement? Regarding change on the game? Or anything in general?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 10, 2009 at 5:28 p.m. #450

and i was told by Air that the crouching shoryuken can hit places the standing one cannot. I dont know, i havnt used it enough to know much about it.

Posted by Nashika on August 11, 2009 at 2:42 a.m. #451

hey woot# wtf thats my psn not yours

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 11, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. #452

@Lucy
I think you meant to ask adon's friend :P by the way i did some asking and they say that they will announce something at the Super Battle Opera this Friday, they say something about Dash version of SF4 (so it's a new game yes) but not too clear if there is going to be one sometime next summer, it's all still a rumor, we won't know until Friday.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 11, 2009 at 2:56 p.m. #453

oh ic ic. I guess we'll see sometime soon then :) i heard rumors Dash will have old characters and the car smashing bonus back

Posted by adon friend on August 11, 2009 at 5:23 p.m. #454

Friday can't come fast enough lol I need an update lol

Anyone opinion on Akuma I mean he is a bad ass but Ryu is the shish who should i main now? need suggestions

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 11, 2009 at 9:08 p.m. #455

Ryu!!!

Posted by Adon's friend on August 11, 2009 at 10:21 p.m. #456

@ Shin Arnaldo Its funny when I posted this I was palying with akuma and when I started losing with him online I was like wow and then I played u and Fell for the RYU Passion again lol

BTW Ign forums listed the meanings of the symbols if u complete all the hard trials my new one means "Violent" lol ;)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 11, 2009 at 11:08 p.m. #457

akuma is really fun, its fun to fool around with his combos. If excluding move set, i just like ryu cause hes classic lol.

Oh, so you have to finish ALL hard trials to get those kanji word icons?

Posted by Ken on August 11, 2009 at 11:15 p.m. #458

@ adon friend

lol, i keep missing you online!

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 12, 2009 at 8:04 a.m. #459

hard trials? is that just the survival and time attack? if so yes i have, if individual moves i'm over 90% :P.

I played with MrSNK yesterday and wohoooo i beat him once lol, i got whopped 5 times though lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 12, 2009 at 11:12 a.m. #460

I want those icons >.< how do i get them lol

Posted by adon friend on August 12, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. #461

MR snk who is that I need a match with him

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 12, 2009 at 1:07 p.m. #462

@Lucy
Beat all hard trials, if you have difficulty then use Zangief and spam that lariat lol

@adon friend
he is a pro i think, he plays Honda along with Mike Ross, there is a photo of them both at this site where it says MrSNK on the left and Mike Ross on the right :D his Honda is awesome, he can dance in the air, first time i've seen it

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 12, 2009 at 1:32 p.m. #463

@Arnoldo
thx thx ^^ wtf how does Honda dance in the air? Hes so fat! lol

I found out one knew thing today, some of you probably know, but i didnt. After a light tatsu (probably from a combo) you can juggle for more damage with a hard shinku hado. Im not 100% sure if they have to be in the corner or not, but im pretty sure they dont have to if you use the hard version.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 12, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #464

@Lucy
lol yeah i know, i didn't believe it until i saw it yesterday and i think i know how to do it lol

and yes i already know but the timing is quite difficult with hard shinkuu you can do it any where in corner you can do any other. if you do certain combo it will make you unable to do it (it won't connect) you can also do super after an air tatsu

Posted by adon friend on August 12, 2009 at 2:13 p.m. #465

@ Shin Arnaldo I spam the Lariat all day but I had to fight cammy is to hard lol

@ Lucy honda can dance in the air WTF I need to see that wow and its a light hurricane kick into ur super works alot no corner nessarry but it wouldn't hurt

buffer the move after u connect to go right into it when u land

Hey everyone I decided to main RYU forrrreveer no more bouncin around lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 12, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. #466

@adon friend
That's the spirit lol, oh and yes when we have the chance i'll show you how he dances in the air, it confuses me real bad lol

Posted by Madness on August 12, 2009 at 4:41 p.m. #467

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2059...

Posted by adon friend on August 12, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. #468

@ madness don't tell me its shawn or a good photoshop and was that the PC version or what I need ansewers

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 12, 2009 at 11:35 p.m. #469

ok after a bit of testing, any 1 normal to light tatsu then super works. After 2 normals, they get too far (but possible). Yea the air tatsu to super juggle i knew, always fun one to land.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 12, 2009 at 11:36 p.m. #470

Lmao, Jamaican Ryu! Awsomeness lol

Posted by Madness on August 13, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. #471

Yea it's the pc version...ahah one of many ryu mods

I don't even like ryu but thought you guys should see

Posted by adon friend on August 13, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. #472

I have to get the fadc perfect but I think my problem is in my ultra any tips on perfecting it ?

@ Lucy he isn't Jamaican its Seab from 3rd strike lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 13, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. #473

@adon friend
you have problem with FADC ultra? mmm... slowly put in the motion of the ultra during the dash? i dont know, it came to me naturally lol

Oh, i didnt play 3rd strike, so it just looked like a jamaican to me lol

Posted by adon friend on August 14, 2009 at 12:04 a.m. #474

okay i get slowly

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on August 16, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #475

so has anyone gotten the pc version?

Posted by rang on August 17, 2009 at 3:08 p.m. #476

Yup, the pc version beats the consoles tbh. Everything is so damn crisp and you can listen to spotify or whatever while playing:p

Posted by adon friend on August 17, 2009 at 4:33 p.m. #477

no I have the ps3 version with Shin arnoldo and Ken were awesome

Posted by Ian on August 17, 2009 at 10:30 p.m. #478

SF4PC has some nice advantages if you want to customize your characters. U can see them and Shoryuken.com

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 18, 2009 at 5:53 a.m. #479

ive been practicing low med, hado, FADC, low med, shoryu/tastu. I cant do them consistantly yet, but i link it like 50% in matches if my FADC works at all. It does a nice 300+ dmg and more stun from just a originally gonna end with hado combo. If it was done like: Jump in HP, crHP, hado, FADC, crMK, heavy dp. Thats slightly over 400 with only 2 bars of meter! And for added damage and awsomeness (mainly this lol) u can go for the FADC again and ultra! Lmao, dont know how much that does, but its pretty cool anyway!

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 18, 2009 at 9:13 a.m. #480

@Lucy
It won't help at all the damage won't be the same as there is a damage scalling involved especially after fadc is involved and if one opponent's hp is less than 50% the damage done is being reduced by certain %.

and you can only do after fadc low med then shoryu/tatsu if you land close enough to them but it is very unlikely, besided if you can land close enough, you should do a low mp, low hp, hp shoryuken, it takes over 300 damage without using any bar or you can change the hp shoryu with ex tatsu

like Ian said you can go to that site and be a member, i just joined a training room not so long ago and there are quite a few pc players, if you want me to hook you up let me know, i'll introduce you all the members (note that some of them are pro) they will give you advice and all to improve your game, i use the same username on that site

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on August 18, 2009 at 3 p.m. #481

@Arnoldo
Ive been through shoryuken too(ive seen ur first post too). Yes damage scaling reduces a lot of what the combo would orignally do, but these variety of combos are still hurtful. The ultra after all that is kinda of a waste but i did mention it is just for looking cool purposes. And actually, you dont have to be that close, you only do if you are going for the shoryu. But for crMP, crHP into something, you do have to be right next to them, at least for the shoryu to hit. If you have the bar early in the round before you got your ultra, why not land one of these? they still hurt a lot even after scaling.

If you want to introduce me to some guys to train with on the pc version, ill gladly appreciate it ^^

Posted by adon's friend on August 20, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. #482

@ Shin Arnoldo sorry bout that my brother wanted to get worked lol he picks Ken so I'll let u fight him sometime he rushes alot so be careful

Posted by AssassinMist86 on August 20, 2009 at 4:24 p.m. #483

This is a nice combo if u can get your timming down
FA,fwrd+HP,crMP,crMP,crMK cancel to HK Tatsu.
Great Damage without wasting your meter ^_^

Posted by adon friend on August 20, 2009 at 10:40 p.m. #484

I've seen that combo Assassin Mist but I can't link it IDK y

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 21, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #485

That combo does not work against all characters, it is only certain characters, usually it misses the tatsu but you can always replace it with cr hk

and if you can do that combo i think best after FA you can do cr mp, cr hp and hp srk, it takes more damage.

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on August 21, 2009 at 7:54 p.m. #486

oh? can you go from cr.MK to cr.HK?

Posted by Ken on August 22, 2009 at 1:41 a.m. #487

what's the best way to counter Vega's jump off the wall crossover? (the one where they have to charge down)

Posted by adon friend on August 22, 2009 at 10:13 a.m. #488

@ ken I think u need to dash forwards or backwards don't stay still keep moving on them

Posted by Hamcookie on August 22, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. #489

@ken just as you see them jump up you should do a dragon and juggle into ultra or ex fireball...after hitting them 4 times like this they will try and make you fireball at them so watch out...

Posted by Lucy.Elfenlied on August 22, 2009 at 8:08 p.m. #490

@Ken
if they try do that, you can jump back and hard kick them. After they notice a few times, they might try to grab you, then you can either dash back or go for light shoryu + fireball/ultra. Dont try to shoryu everytime, it doesnt work all the time, you gotta really watch the range of his attack in relation to the angle he is flying toward you. You really want the one time you land it to be the finishing ultra kill. Dont fireball or jump around too much when Vega has ultra, except the occasional ones when he is not turtle charging. So if he backflips, he is still charging. Hope this helped.

Posted by AssassinMist86 on August 23, 2009 at 1:22 p.m. #491

like adon said best to keep moving, if u find yourself losin to vega often its probably because your not rushing him down enough or your staying still. i like to dash back or foward and throw a focus attack in there to keep him off balance. then when hes close to defeat set up your LP Shoryu ulta for the final blow. or another lil trick i like to do to those backflip whores is set up my cross up so they try to do a wake up back flip and then just punish him when he recovers! ^_^

Posted by ken on August 23, 2009 at 9:36 p.m. #492

cool, thanks for the info guys! i'll try them out tonight!

Posted by adon friend on August 24, 2009 at midnight #493

@ Ken yea man vega gave me probs 2 but i kept playing and started winning

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 24, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. #494

@Lucy
no you cannot, but you connect crouching mp to crouching hk

@ken
I don't think doing shoryuken to counter vega's wall jump cross over is a good idea
first of all you might not have a reaction fast enough to do it
second is that vega can go to either side of the wall thus making your shoryuken movement into the wrong direction if they go the other way
third is you cannot be so sure if they are doing a cross over they might be doing a claw instead (the one with punch)

depending on your position sometimes it is better if you just stand still or move forward but this again depends on which button they use

jumping back and hk is probably one of the best option or you can actually jump forward and do a mp

try not to jump if he has ultra unless like lucy said he is not charging

all of his dives using a punch can be punished with ex hadou or super, his ultra can be punished using ultra after you block it.

if you can take out his claw then this will help you as he has shorter range.

also if you see him has an ultra ready what i suggest is that you do a fake hadou (do the movement and press kick or just don't press anything) this usually leads them to ultra and you can guard and punish them with ultra

like adon said, once you encounter enough vega then you should be able to play better against them, they are hard to deal with but not that hard as many of their moves are punishable easily

Posted by adon's friend on August 24, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. #495

@ Shin Arnoldo Hey I notice ur rush with RYU is great so I decided to take that style and use alot of the same combos and moves u use and the rush style with RYu is way more effective against people normally I would turtle and keep away now I fight and win alot more in G1

PSn cuttyb87

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 24, 2009 at 9:58 a.m. #496

@adon's friend
Yeah mate you completely threw me off so many times as i was expecting you are playing the calm type but suddenly out of no where like a lion you just snatch me without me realizing that i lost all my hp :P

I still need to work alot on my ryu, sometimes i'm just confused as what combo i want to do when i score a hit :P also was experimenting on some combos too

I still get panicked easily and confused as to deal with fa and ryu's forward+Hp lol

and about the icon, no i'm still 90+% there are a few more that I need to get but don't have much will to do it :P as some are hard to do with standard dual shock pad

Posted by AssassinMist86 on August 24, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. #497

Hey Shin Arnoldo, u play on xbl or psn. if u play on xbl then i would def lke to challenge u to some friendly matches. my Ryu is not bad ^_^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 24, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #498

@Assassin
yours are not but mine is :D but luckily i'm on psn :P and i don't like challenges cause i'm a noob lol

Posted by AssassinMist86 on August 24, 2009 at 8:20 p.m. #499

any one up for some matches on xbl?

Posted by adon friend on August 25, 2009 at 9:39 a.m. #500

@ Shin Arnoldo ur hard on urself for some reason but yea my rush style is good for almost any shoto now Akuma is wy better and I 'm going to show u and for Ryu u need a go to combo I would go to the the dash punches into shoryuken that takes alot of power and when u get good at it u can dash punch c.mk c.mk into an hurricane kick major damage for real

Posted by Adon friend on August 25, 2009 at 9:42 a.m. #501

BTW I will be going as my PSN name with the forum boards
Cuttyb87 is here and I pick Akuma now because of the challenge of the rush he has and the difficulty of the matches lol
@Shin Arnoldo ur Ryu is great so lets go some rounds and see whats up

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 26, 2009 at 8:25 a.m. #502

@adon
Akuma? lol, you should never go to the darkside lol :P and you cannot connect dash punch c.mk c.mk to tatsu unless you meant c.mp c.mk to tatsu or c.mk to tatsu after dash punch :D but if i can do that i won't do it, i will do dash punch c.hp to hp shoryuken this takes more damage compare to the one you mention and if you have super and full ultra you can do dash punchec, c.hp, hp shoryuken, super, ultra this is Ryu's most damaging combo that i found over 640/670 either one

Posted by watch on August 26, 2009 at 3:33 p.m. #503

I already know since 90% of you fags use ryu online I just wanted to say your all pussy, thanks for your time

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 26, 2009 at 3:53 p.m. #504

another ryu hater lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 26, 2009 at 5:56 p.m. #505

@watch u must lose to RYU alot 4 u to waste ur time and trash talk on a forum get a life and play the game for fun or play another game

Posted by Cuttyb87 on August 27, 2009 at 12:24 a.m. #506

@ Shin Arnoldo great good today u showed me what I needed to work on and I felt u were holding back I needed u to own me like their is no tomorrow maybe next time I have to perfect my smaller combos so they can go into my bigger combos and my fighting style with Akuma

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 27, 2009 at 8:12 a.m. #507

:P well, i think you didn't punish me enough, so for instance when you score a fa you follow up with just hp shoryu or just toss me, you might want to do a close hp, light tatsu, hp shoryu. Akuma's light tatsu can be followed by his shoryu then of course you can fadc the hp shoryu after the 3rd hit and follow up with hp fire hadou

problem with him is that he has low hp, so trading is not a good idea for akuma, even though he deals quite a damage but he gets beaten quite easily if trading happens, and if you fought ryu don't do air fireball too often when he has super as it is suicide and advantage to ryu

hope this help

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 27, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #508

@ shin Ur right I wasn't punishing enough the raging demon is cool but damage scalin hurt me alot but I will continue to be more discret RYU do own Akuma and I 'am having probs with RYU online so I happy to have u to fight

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 27, 2009 at 1:16 p.m. #509

@Cuttyb87
dont worry, once you get the hang of akuma, you'll be giving much Ryus trouble XD. Oh and the FADC fireball for akuma, actually you are suppose to do the light shoryu and go into heavy fireball, it deals more damage that way.

@Shin
are u able to do Dash punch into crHP 100%? I can only do it like 1/3 of the time, so i would only try it when im winning by a lot or just feel like i really need it to win. I usually do Dash punch, crLP, crHP. That i can do like 90% but the downside is i cant get the full shoryu hit if i can at all, i usually just go for the tatsu or ex tatsu.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 27, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. #510

@Cutty
we can play again next time but for the time being i think ryu has higher chance winning against akuma unless akuma player's defense is very high

@lucy
I never saw the amount of damage done since i don't really use him but i do know that if you use hp shoryu then fire hadou only 1 fire hadou will hit while if you do a light shoryu then all 3 fire hadou will hit.

and no i cannot connect cr.hp after f+hp 100% but definitely more than 33% though but i barely use any f+hp :P but i do use alot of cr.mp, cr.hp, srk (best is using hp but i do use lp as i can follow up with cross up or wake up game :P) the problem is its hard to hit opponent with f+hp unless you score and fa or your opponent mess up but i have been learning to do light light then hp shoryuken this is kinda like easy but not too easy combo to do but it does a decent damage and you have less chance of messing up and best part is you can fadc to ultra after that

Posted by cuttyb 87 on August 28, 2009 at 9:38 a.m. #511

@ shin he does cuz eo f the damage he seems to be beating more and thee match ups I have has changed but still adjusting to him he is way different to RYU I pick Akuma cuz I was bored with RYU lol and ur RYU is good so I need to practice against him

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 28, 2009 at 9:43 a.m. #512

@Cutty
Sorry about yesterday, i can't play with you as i have to attend a few things. will try tonight but after i finish up all my house works :P oh and not sure if you know this but after tatsu you can also do a cr.hk

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 28, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #513

@Shin
do you mean doing light light heavy shoryu from nothing or dash punch + light light dp?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 28, 2009 at 11:52 a.m. #514

@Lucy
c.lp / c.lk, c.lp, hp shoryu from nothing (but of course when the first light attack hit) or you can do c.lp, c.hp, shoryuken too and yes you can do dash punch, c.lp, c.lp, shoryu too but not recomended, if you can connect the c.lp from dash punch you might as well do c.hp then hp shoryuken (it deals alot of damage not to mention if you cancel it to super too)

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 28, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. #515

Yea thats usually my bnb into ultra finish, since crLK hits low and with the crLP you have the hit confirmation to do the decide to finish off with ur dp or do a mix up.

Heres an good idea if you guys dont use this often, crLK/LP, crLP, crMK (if blocked), and jump for cross up tatsu or start new cross up combo. I tend to do the tatsu if i finished the block string with crMK and start new combo if i did 3 crouching lights. Another interesting one is 3 blocked crouching lights, walk up a bit (pretend of a tick throw, but not close enough) and go for crLK~combo, this only usually works if your oppenent techs your throws though, or just decided to be stupid

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 28, 2009 at 3:04 p.m. #516

Usually i only do 3 lights then cross up cause it is safer for me since many people like to mash up a counter after the second light and its easier to connect from c.lp to c.lp instead of c.lp to c.mk

and yes lucy your idea is nice but don't press c.lk, use c.mp instead, you have extra time to think following up but not sure if its a good idea doing this using pad sometimes ryu does a shoryuken :(

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 28, 2009 at 8:13 p.m. #517

@shin wats up hey man I been using akuma abd I 'm getting the hang of it but my Ryu bug is calling me I bounce around alot now but I will show u

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 28, 2009 at 8:53 p.m. #518

@Shin
if you're talking about the walk up re-attack thing, crMP is slower and doesnt require low block. By crLK~combo you can still do more normals for hit conformation

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 30, 2009 at 9:39 a.m. #519

@Lucy
yes it is slower but most player will block down anyway and after c.mp you still can follow up with normals for hit conformation and also it is a good frame traps as what they call it, and many people doesn't really expect c.mp then toss at least now for the time being

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 30, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. #520

@ shin arnoldo any tips on beating zangeif? that guys is to cheap 4 me lol
and what are u now g2 or g1?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 30, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. #521

@Shin
I guess it will work too, plus it goes farther. I could use both for mixup i guess. Yes most people will block low anyway, but sometimes you're lucky enough that they arent :)

@Cutty
Hadoken! Hadoken! Hadoken! Shoryuken! Pretty much just zone him, you want to almost never jump in on him when hes in neutral state. Gaining your super asap is a good idea. You can blast him with a super while he lariots through a hadoken

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 30, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. #522

@ Lucy>Elfend>Lied stay patient and spam okay sounds like a plan can't wait to get on lol Its all about RYU4now on seriously

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 30, 2009 at 6:45 p.m. #523

@Lucy
Not lucky but they are trying to tech a throw that is why they got hit

@cutty
well i only know a cheap way to beat gief but basically you have to go to the end of the screen, then you do hadouken, usually i use light one and then if he didn't move then follow it and if he did spinning lariat to avoid one, you can actually jump in and do a hk or hp. if he jump towards you, you can jump and do hk, then jump back and do a mix up like 1 or 2 fireball when he gets close sometimes he will jump towards you and you can do jump hk, if he press you to the corner you can quickly jump forward and do tatsu, this will take you to the other side and repeat.

if he does a green hand you can punish after you block it but don't get too close it's dangerous and don't just jump in on him as his neutral jump and hp does give you tons of stun

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 30, 2009 at 7:33 p.m. #524

@all u guys ur right I will be cheap like other gief players and make them pay for picking the russian douche bag

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on August 31, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. #525

oh and try not to quick recover when they knock you down as they will tend to do a quick crossover

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on August 31, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. #526

yea i find it hard getting away from geif after i take a knockdown, usually one knockdown is enough for them to catch up or even win = =" Just dont hado much when your in ex green hand range

Posted by cuttyb87 on August 31, 2009 at 8:15 p.m. #527

Gief is the only one that gives me probs lol why

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 1, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. #528

hahah, soon chun li and sim and sagat will also give you troubles

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 1, 2009 at 1:38 p.m. #529

I still dont have too much trouble with Sagat, its still rog, dictator and maybe honda >_>

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 1, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. #530

hehehe wait till you play this guy, his sagat whopped me 22 in a row, rog is kinda like 1 or 2 in 5

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 1, 2009 at 9:04 p.m. #531

Well i can beat average sagats, my friend Dan is just too much. I think he is Canada's best sagat.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 2, 2009 at 12:54 a.m. #532

@ Shin Sagat can beat me but not in dominant fashion what was his name that beat u shin?

Posted by Yoga-Flamer on September 2, 2009 at 4:14 a.m. #533

@ Shin I happen to own all Sagat with Dhalsim....ahhh I just love playing shotos......yyyyYYYOOOgGGGAAAA

Posted by Malti on September 2, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. #534

Ryu rocks!...Haqq al bieba madonna! u foxx kristu re!

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 2, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. #535

what rank r ya'll i'm a g-1 d?

PSn cuttyb87

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 2, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. #536

@Yoga-Flamer
haha, yes the guy mentioned that sim and sagat is pretty much equal and he loves fighting sim but this guy's sagat is a little much more than the rest he is at SG for a while now

@cutty
I'll send you a pm with his username but i have to ask him first if its ok with him. he plays best out of 3 rounds and if you are east coast you should have no connection issue playing with him, he is the only one that can beat another sg rank player with over 95% winning rate

oh and i'm at G2-C :( at 5700+ points

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 2, 2009 at 1:18 p.m. #537

I'amm on the westcoast longbeach california and I know a damn good Sagat player he isn't cheap and he is the best so I looking forward to the pm and btw check out my new vid of me in the cahmpionship I wa all over chun li lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 2, 2009 at 2 p.m. #538

hehe, you weren't playing my ryu's chun li girl lol, anyhow, i'll ask him if its ok too :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 4, 2009 at 1:02 p.m. #539

@Cutty
Hey did you happen to go to Northwest Majors sf4 tourny?

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 4, 2009 at 2:40 p.m. #540

no i didn't

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 5, 2009 at 12:25 p.m. #541

Oh, you should go to the next big one in seattle when there is one if its not too much trouble for you. I wanna go too XD

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 5, 2009 at 3:03 p.m. #542

hahaha, you might get to meet mickey d :P

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 6, 2009 at 9:07 p.m. #543

haha i wish man

Posted by PSN: KenB1988 on September 7, 2009 at 1:50 a.m. #544

eh whos name Ken here i wanna battle u XD hahah Ken vs Ken.... im Ryu user... actually i play all hahaha add me on PSN or on Windows : KenB1988 both PS3 and Windows...
Show me ur skillz all SF players!! brign it i love challenge!

Posted by PSN: KenB1988 on September 7, 2009 at 1:52 a.m. #545

Oh forget.... pm me if u from this site :P...
join this site to! http://www.gamernook.com/
join the little competition in the site :) makes clan so we can fight all peace

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 7, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. #546

mmmm, you can play cutty, i suck so no point in playing me lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 7, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. #547

Yea i saw Mickey D that one time i went before the recent Northwest Majors... he wasnt good at all. But you guys can check out the Videos of the tourny on youtube if you like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWg6O7...

i picked up C.viper a bit now, but to do her big combos (includes cancels in between) are ridiculously difficult, and i just lose a lot with her against better players >.<

Posted by lalo on September 7, 2009 at 4:58 p.m. #548

very god

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 8, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. #549

Lucy, I saw you !! not you but Elfen Lied :D good show, too violent though. how many series are there? i only saw until 14 but couldn't find 15, do you know? and i don't like viper, she is not sexy enough lol

Posted by Drewbee on September 9, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. #550

I like ryu but everytime he is used they are spammers so i just use rose and reflect on them, but other than that he is one of my favorites

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 10, 2009 at 5:01 p.m. #551

@Drewbee
I love to spam fireballs <3 Absorbing fireballs might be more in Rose's favor than reflecting them

@Arnoldo
unfortunately that is all of the anime. The manga is longer though

Posted by Pathetic Ryus on September 12, 2009 at 4:30 a.m. #552

Pussies are attracted to Ryu. Any idiot can win with his easy combos and a retard can combo into his ultra. People that would never win if they used any other character ruin this game. You are a pathetic and im so sick of beating loser Ryu after Ryu.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 12, 2009 at 7:08 p.m. #553

@ Pathetic Ryu dude ...get a life lol
play another game or shut up u must lose alot or something

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 13, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. #554

yea lmao, dont go hating on people, hate the game. So stfu QQ ragequit noob

Posted by PSN: KenB1988 on September 14, 2009 at 2:35 a.m. #555

Pathetic Ryus....

Pussies are attracted to Ryu. Any idiot can win with his easy combos and a retard can combo into his ultra. People that would never win if they used any other character ruin this game. You are a pathetic and im so sick of beating loser Ryu after Ryu.

OHooo is that so then u never fight me dude...
First of all some peopel like me Main ryu since the first series of SF so shut the hack up.
Second!! Some people like me! Does not only use Ryu u baka.
I use all characters cuz it FUn! But when i come serious matches I use Ryu and Sagat and Abel and Guile and Gouken and Sakura and SetH! LOLZ

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 14, 2009 at 10:01 a.m. #556

@PSN:KenB1988 It sounds like u are losing against RYU man
he is the most popular character in the series and alot of people know his tricks so it makes him a bigger target to beat and if u can't then damn u suck.
The game doesn't have all the characters I expected them to and alot of the ones on here suck like Fei long, Guile, e honda and Bison I have yet to play a bomb Bison lol in Hd remix I like those characters and pick them alot so when I play this they absolutely suck. so we pick Ryu and win b/c we are comfortable with him so KenB1988 go to a Ken page and complain and be a little girl over their lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 14, 2009 at 4:33 p.m. #557

@Cutty
I think you meant your comment to Pathetic Ryus, Ken was just quoting what Pathetic Ryus is writing :P

Posted by Cuttb87 on September 14, 2009 at 7:02 p.m. #558

@ Shin Arnoldo yeah ur right I thought it was Ken

@ ken Sorry for the rant

@ Pathetic RYU's u still suck I bet lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 15, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #559

Seems like the few of us have not really added any useful information in the last little while. Pretty much we just make small talk and comment on the haters. So, anyone learn anything knew that they can share? Or a Ryu tactic they would like to discuss?

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 15, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. #560

the shoulder breaker punch light shoryuken into ultra worked lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 16, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. #561

Ryu's most damaging combo without ex meter / ultra
FA lv3, Solar Plexus, c.hp, hp srk - 404 damage

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 16, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. #562

@Cutty
on a crouching opponent?

@Arnoldo
not sure on this, but might FA3, fHP, crMP, crHP, heavy shoryu do more? Anyhow, that is a lot of damage for a combo that requires no bar and ofcourse can be expanded on.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 16, 2009 at 9:24 p.m. #563

i have not tested it yet but when i did the same but i do fa3, f+hp,c.lp,c.hp, hp srk it does less damage than the one without c.lp, so i think it will be the same with c.mp, but i will test it later

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 16, 2009 at 10:14 p.m. #564

@ shin arnoldo u know what try to add cr.mp in their maybe it would add more damage and hit confirm into the cr.hp into SRK for the most damage cuz I seen it in a Diago match and playing wit an arcade stick is hella easier

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 17, 2009 at 9:52 a.m. #565

Did the testing, FA3, f+hp, c.mp,c.hp,hp srk only deals 380 damage.

the reason is that the shoryuken does not hit at the beginning, it hits later on thus the damage is lower and it seems that it can only be done to a specific characters not all. i think daigo did it against blanka but i can't remember and i'm not sure if the shoryuken hits at the very beginning.

regardless i can't seem to do it against ryu, i did it against zangief, sagat, seth.

c.mp, c.hp, hp srk deals 298 damage - this is handy but not that easy to do

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 17, 2009 at 11:21 a.m. #566

Damn so we should stick to the basics i guess

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 17, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. #567

Actually i'm able to do solar plexus, c.hp, hp srk more times now along with c.mp, c.hp, hp srk too.

the whole idea is to be able to do damage as much as you can at any given opportunities, if you are not comfy then just do basic combo but my whole idea is i must be able to do any possible combo at any given chance during a real battle match not just in training

Posted by . on September 18, 2009 at 5 a.m. #568

Beat some scrubby sagats in ranked matches on PSN with Dan lol, nothing feels as good as beating scrubs with Dan. And the best thing is that they start crying about being beaten by a joke character, love it.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 18, 2009 at 7:55 a.m. #569

Did you get to do a super taunt as sagat loses?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 19, 2009 at 4:38 p.m. #570

I completely agree with you Arnoldo, when the opportunity is presented, gotta dish out Ryu's crazy damaging combos. It my opponent whiffed/missed an uppercut, i would usually punish with something along the lines of crMP, crHP, hado, cancel into crMP, crLP, shoryu? But sometimes i didnt have time to walk close enough and i would just go with basic HP, shoryu or hado cancel if i have bar.

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 20, 2009 at 12:07 a.m. #571

YEa I like my system with combos but its fun to mix things up in matches every so often...

did anyone play stf alpha back in the day I heard their re-releasing it on the PSN soon true or what?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 20, 2009 at 12:16 p.m. #572

I didnt play alpha, and i dont know anything about this news either, sry :/

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 20, 2009 at 7:20 p.m. #573

Hi Lucy, the combo you mention doesn't really do much damage and it uses 2 bars, it deals about 300ish i believe, and you might have the chance of missing the second part after fadc.

if you do c.mp, c.hp, hp srk it deals 298 damage without meter and if you are very confident with f+hp, you can do that and c.hp, hp srk, this deals about 358 damage if i remember correctly and it is without meter but if you are not confident you might just do c.hp, ex tatsu which deals 300 damage and its only 1 bar

sometimes the simpler the better but if you are leading by much more or you are confident of doing it might as well do it, the combo you mention is very fancy and not easy to do but if you can do it and it breaks your opponent spirit, it worth wasting 2 ex bar :D

there are more than just damage done, there are tactical side, including destroying one's spirit :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 20, 2009 at 8:31 p.m. #574

so whats ya'll fav street fighter game

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 21, 2009 at 2:20 a.m. #575

@Arnoldo
No, the crMP, crHP hado cancel, crMP, heavy shoyu does 371, which is like a good 70 more. Or 335 with regular tatsu. Plus it looks fancy on top of that.
About the f+hp, i can still combo into crLP or crMP no prob, just still have trouble with crHP (still 40% or so). But i dont use f+hp or punishing too much, i do when i remember though.
Destroying spirit = GG :)

@Cuttyb87
Ive always like playing KoF since i was a kid. I only got good at Kof XI though before i started playing SF4. But my fav fighting games probably will include: Melty Blood and Arcana Heart. Arcana Heart was probably the first fighting game i ever got good at.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 21, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. #576

@Lucy
Does the second part after fadc always connect? it is character specific i believe, did you try it on Blanka? if you have not can you try it against him and see if it connects please.

going to try to do c.mp,mk,hadou,fadc,c.mp,chp,hp srk tonight

Posted by TheMightyBison on September 21, 2009 at 11:53 a.m. #577

Whoa whoa Cuttyb, you probably haven't played a good Bison because everybody uses Ken, Ryu, or Akuma

I play as Bison and usually don't have a problem against shotos. Sagat is easiest followed by Akuma, Ken, then Ryu but there are a lot inexperienced guys who use them.

If you wanna do some player matches hit me up, I'm not a great Bison but like I said I usually don't have a hard time vs the shotos.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 21, 2009 at 12:24 p.m. #578

Yeah Bison is kinda hard to beat if you don't have much xp against one, his lk cross up is kinda weird and always throws me off.

is sagat considered as shotos? i though his is thai kick boxing, anyway you should play against EmblemLord's sagat then you will know that sagat is not easy to beat using bison, even Mykalogist have problems against his sagat

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 21, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. #579

@Arnoldo
The combo is not character specific and will link 100% (if you have perfect execution, which i dont :P). Im not so sure of the crHP linking in the combo you suggested, maybe that might be character specific. I usually just do a crMP or crMK after hado cancel, its easiest for me.
Yea Sagat is considered a shoto; fireball and uppercut
People have trouble with characters like Bison or Balrog due to lack of experience.

@TheMightyBison
If you find Sagat is ur easiest character to go against, you've never played a "proper" (not even good) Sagat. Too many enexperienced shotos out there that just makes them look easy to beat

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 21, 2009 at 4:32 p.m. #580

@Lucy
I've seen the combo you mention on one of the evo games, after hadou fadc, the c.mp sometimes is too far away to connect with hp srk but i will test tonight.

and yes i have very low xp on rog thus i'm always most likely look like a noob that don't know how to play against them.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 21, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. #581

@mightybison Mykatalogist is my friend on the PSN and I played him today I WAST STUDYING his style with Bison and I notice some things about Bison and I think that the Shotos and Sagat are better than the charge characters

Bison is a mixed character cuz alot of people only hard kick and better players rush and throw MYkat is a mixture of the two but I must say Bison has a defense problem tho he dies fast and takes alot of power to

I know a damn good Sagat HUo juan jia and he is my bro friend he destroyed my Sagat and made me pick RYU and since then I have had lost sleep over alot of sleep but lately I 've been playing my old STreet fighter games so I'm rusty sry for the bad matches lately but I do have a G1 championship I uploaded a while ago check it out lol

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 21, 2009 at 4:43 p.m. #582

@ Shin btw way ur anaylis on E honda on Shoryuken.com was great and I think charge characters need to be charged to be effective and more throws and more trips works for ne so they have to start over and make them more predictable but making them make mistakes

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 21, 2009 at 6 p.m. #583

@Cutty
i think i'm just quoting someone, i really didn't do it lol
i have my own analysis but still i didn't type it in :P

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 23, 2009 at 1:32 a.m. #584

I think charge characters need to hide their charging while doing other stuff to be most effective; for example: pokes or purposely whiffed moves.

I still think its really too bad i cant play with you guys :/

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 23, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. #585

@Lucy
buy a ps3 :D then we can play with you :D its only $300 now :D

Posted by PSN: KenB1988 on September 24, 2009 at 2:02 a.m. #586

Shin_Arnoldo - Cuttb87

hahaha np Cuttb87 XD
hurrr so bored man... to much people choose shoto cha make me bored shoto cha XD ahahhaha god...
I knw its easy to use but c'mon play with other cha to ... I mean they all cool in their own ways .. just look at Seth wtf hes freaking silver surfer with ying yang sht XD that make me pick him :D ... Dhalsim (correct name?) dude hes so slow and flowing in the air WTF the legs everything its so .. lol
Abel LOlz i luv this cha man... G.I shorts! ahahha seriously emo lol!

Ryu is cool but try other ... u wont regret :D
I hope they add more characters for SF4 like Guy, Adon!, Alex :D, how about Shin bison ahahha,Karin maybe! feels so empty without karin... Ryu+Ken....Sakura+Karin lolz my girl name is Sakura to how awesome :D

TC all peeps

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 24, 2009 at 9:34 a.m. #587

Gyahahahhaa, i don't know why people always think i can only play ryu :P but honestly i also play Fei Long and sometimes Honda or Guile :P Fei is probably my second best character

Ryu is easy to use but hard to master :P

Posted by LickMyHead on September 24, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. #588

And Fuc My twat

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 24, 2009 at 8:45 p.m. #589

@KenB1988
I agree with Arnoldo
we here who main Ryu, doesnt mean we can only play Ryu. My second best is balrog or C.viper (probably hardest character in the game?)

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 25, 2009 at 1:09 a.m. #590

I like all shotos but I try Abel cuz I slam fei long 2

Shin Arnoldo has a great damn fei long and served my Abel lol but RYU is the man so I make sure I master him before I leave I picked and Mastered Sagat the Fagat he was easy RYu is more complexed tho IDK y

BUt we all main RYU on the page right?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 25, 2009 at 2:20 a.m. #591

No one "masters" any character in my opinion :P I think the phrase we should use is "get good at"

I find Sagat so much harder than Ryu... i have more trouble doing Sagat's crLK,crLK,crLP, heavy tiger upper than like Viper's crHP, tkfient, crHP, exseismo blah blah blah.

*raises hand* I MAIN RYU!!! ME ME ME!!! lmao

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 25, 2009 at 8:22 a.m. #592

Sagat's timing is different than ryu's so if you main ryu its kinda hard to do that chain, timing is slightly slower and they both have slightly different style well not slightly but totally different gameplay

i totally need to take a break, i need more xp against non shotos, some scrubs can beat me using rog but got owned when they use shotos, this is bad for my developement

but anyhow i will take a break

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 26, 2009 at 12:09 a.m. #593

usually what happens now if i own someone who is a shoto user with my Ryu, ill just play with my viper. I dont know, but once you understand most matchups and have experience fighting the cast, (only counting good players) the shotos are still the some of the most troublesome

Good games at the arcade 2night, though i got owned >.>

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 2:41 a.m. #594

@ Shin u said take a break u mean stop playing the game or what? cuz that a good deal to come back refreshed and don't burn urself out lol

Posted by Ouch. on September 26, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. #595

Dude...Am I the only guy who thinks that linking the Solar Plexus Strike to that Crouching Hard Punch is, like...

Well, Hard?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 26, 2009 at 8:44 p.m. #596

it is hard, its a 1 frame link afterall. Thats why i usually do light punch into hard punch after plexus. I still try plexus into crHP occasionally though

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 26, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. #597

Its not that hard at all, i have better success rate as of late, but of course it all depends on where you are playing, if you are playing online, there might be a little lag causing your timing is off, offline is different story

the difficult part is if you land it slightly far away then the 2 hits is like pretty quick but if you are close enough then it is kinda easy

best if you try it on training room first to kinda get the timing and even better when you apply it on the real battle cause it is not the same situation

@Cutty
no, i still play the game but maybe less time since i only play max 2 hours a day but that is if i'm lucky :P mostly average just an hour max

i need to fight non shotos, i don't have alot xp against them

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 26, 2009 at 11:07 p.m. #598

@ Shin arnoldo playing against other players is easy just avoid their strength moves i.e charge characters don't allow them to charge fight them and for others play keep away or or rushdown lol

@ Lucy when u say l.p after solar plex punch is it crouching or standing?

I can link cr.mp into cr.Hp dragon pucn offline online its harder

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 27, 2009 at 2:26 a.m. #599

@Cutty
crLP, its the easiest for me, i got that like 90%. i can do all the other ones too, just not as consistantly. But i still can pull out crMP or crHP at least 50% in offline, i dont try too much online.

I just found something kinda weird:
I was trying to heavy shoryu a guy when he jumped at me and FADC ultra, but for some reason, i just regular hadokened. But i still FADC and landed the full ultra. This probably isnt that applicable considering the hadoken has to be an anti air. I just never seen it so thought id mention it.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 27, 2009 at 8:12 a.m. #600

Yes that can happen, you can also do lp srk (aa), then ex hadou fadc, ultra, this looks super cool but ultra won't hit all however the damage done is the same as lp srk (aa), fadc, ultra.

@Lucy
if you can connect the c.lp after solar plexus, you can do that then c.hp, hp srk, you will deal less damage though but it is only 4 or 8 damage less so worth doing just don't follow with any other after srk cause the damage will be soo much lower unless you can beat the opponent

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 27, 2009 at 10:11 a.m. #601

Yea like Shin said its all about winning forget the cool stuff lol and The stf bar fight is in two weeks i debating whether I should be in it?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 27, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. #602

Well as my friends and i always joke about, this game is all about looking cool, who cares about winning, "Im a noob and dont know how to play this game so i only try to win."

Cutty you should go if you have free time, local tournies are always nice. Test out ur Ryu against the community :)

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 28, 2009 at 8:29 a.m. #603

Yup, you never know how far you will get unless you try it :D i made it 3rd place on an online tourney just recently :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 28, 2009 at 4:44 p.m. #604

Yea u know I was leaning towards it and supposedly its famous maybe u should youtubue its street fighter bar fights and Gootecks is hosting it

Posted by macky on September 28, 2009 at 9:46 p.m. #605

can yu search for ryu longest hit count
please
love this game

thanks

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 28, 2009 at 10:10 p.m. #606

@Cutty
Go and win as much as you can bro, you got our support

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 29, 2009 at 8:44 a.m. #607

@macky
longest hit count? well ... it depends on where though, if you are doing it in training room, it is infinity.

in real game it all depends, if you score a stun, your combo can be longer but i know you can get 20 hits +, the most i did was 16 hits but i was going for damage not hits

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 29, 2009 at 6:04 p.m. #608

Wtf, how can Ryu do infinite combo?

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 29, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #609

RYU doesn't have an infinite combo> maybe if u have unlimited super and focus dash cancel alot lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 29, 2009 at 11:48 p.m. #610

my question to ya'll is whats ur favorite ryu super/ultra of all time? I like the Metsu-shoryuken?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 30, 2009 at 8:44 a.m. #611

he can, i did say on training room and its not that easy .. kinda ... well your opponent must be in the corner and you can do c.mp, hadou, fadc, c.mp, hadou, fadc or any variation, sakura can too

@cutty
you mean Shin Shoryuken? i never heard of Metsu shoryuken

i just realized that Chun Li can actually do an over 900+ damage combo and its doable during game play, and here we are having complains so many about ryu this and ryu that

Posted by cuttyb87 on September 30, 2009 at 2:34 p.m. #612

S shin arnoldo Its called mestsu shoryuken cuz he dashes with his elbow out and connenects the goes up the shin shoryuken is the gut punch to the dragon punch

the metsu scarred sagats chest cuz of the evil hadou in his body

@ lucy I tried to put my registration for it but I needed to qualify for another tourney first and I missed i for that deadline so I have to wait for the next 1 lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 30, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #613

Personally i never really like any of Ryus supers anyway. But if im to pick, it gotta be the regular shinku hado.

Dam thats too bad cutty, mebbe next time then.

Any of you interested in playing a specific character of SSF4?
I think Juri looks wicked :)

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on September 30, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. #614

@cutty
I don't think they ever put that moves into the game but i've been absent for a long time so i might be wrong

@Lucy
Me too, i like Shinku hadou and also the one that has a stun thingie
I will stick with Ryu and if there is Guy, i might use him too

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 30, 2009 at 6:24 p.m. #615

I think Guy is one of them, not sure if he is confirmed or not though.

Posted by Shotohater on September 30, 2009 at 7 p.m. #616

Dudley will own all you spammers...

You are going to have to actually learn how to play instead of banging on your joysticks for miracle uppercuts...

Ryu is cheap. So is Rufus, Balrog, Sagat and Akuma.

And all you noobs know it.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 30, 2009 at 9:40 p.m. #617

i just wanna say... NOOB ALERT!!! :)

Posted by Cuttyb87 on September 30, 2009 at 10:55 p.m. #618

@ Shotohater y are u hating on RYU play ur game and leave us shotos alone we play our game and u play urs if u own RYU don't worry about it then bro... or u may lose alot and hate RYU cuz u can't beat us ur the noob bro lol

@ Shin I would like to see Adon from alpha and I would like to see a new brand new character

@ Lucy u know Jui looks like fun to pla cuz her fight style seems really really violent

and I hope they give us RYU fake fireball or is sliding kick lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on September 30, 2009 at 11:24 p.m. #619

@Cutty
yea lol ive given up trying to say anything back to haters.
And yea i think you're right, maybe she is appealing cause of how violent her style is. When she does her ultra and throws you to downwards, she gets up close to you as says, "Does it feel good?" before she pounds you into the floor ITS TOO AWSOME! lol

THEY SHOULD BUFF RYU, VIPER AND NERF EVERYHING ELSE!!! lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 1, 2009 at 12:54 a.m. #620

@ Lucy man u need a ps3 lol what sstem do u have man? I also want Adon from alpha in the game he is a cross between Vega ( claw) and sagat really good

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 1, 2009 at 12:47 p.m. #621

Not sure about viper but she has to most damaging combo using only 1 ex and it goes almost/over 450 :( but yeah Ryu for the winner !!! lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 1, 2009 at 6:08 p.m. #622

I play via pc. I was going to buy a ps3 when the game first came out considering that i wanted to play the future FFs as well, but didnt think i could afford using the money. Its really cheap to buy sf4 via steam too.

I think Viper needs a faster and more damaging anti air at least :) maybe like one of those flame kicks from her ultra.

NERF BALROG AND SAGAT (free jump ins pl0x) ALL THE WAY!

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 1, 2009 at 11:31 p.m. #623

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqGEBr... here it is

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 1, 2009 at 11:37 p.m. #624

lol kinda thats looks like what Kyo of KoF does; runs up to you with elbow then picks you up and you explode. Just Ryu uppercuts after. Cool stuff

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 2, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. #625

rumor has it that Akuma will be in an S tier next installment so Ryu will be in the A tier still? beacuse they will all have to drop a grade down so maybe Akuma will have all his supers to use or what

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 2, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. #626

Akuma in S tier? :( and yeah why people hate ryu? i have no clue, if there is no Ryu, it is not Street Fighter

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 2, 2009 at 5:16 p.m. #627

The reason y people hate RYU is cuz he is to good lol He has everyway to win he has great offense and defense and has many different play stykes he isn't cheap nor broken he is just awesome lol

But people hate cuz they don't understand... we can hate Balrog right? Honda? Or gief but we don't I just want a good match and hopefully the update can show everyone that it does take skill to play RYU in the right hands he is disgusting

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 3, 2009 at 1:13 p.m. #628

indeed well said :) Why does Akuma need to be S tier, he is already extremely good when played by an exceptional player. Juri should be S tier cause she likes big boobs XD

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 3, 2009 at 2:41 p.m. #629

They need to have more charge characters to the game everyone uses the same functions the game gets old really really fast

The japanese players Said Akuma will be the top tier in the next installment so I'm assuming they know something we don't

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 3, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #630

i guess so, that will be interesting. Aren't there enough charge characters already though? I think they should implement new super/ultra motions like QCB, HCF PPP kind of thing, instead of always QCF,QCF PPP.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 3, 2009 at 7:12 p.m. #631

hopefully they will I don't know... who knows man I just want the best game of all time

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 3, 2009 at 10:08 p.m. #632

Well yea but it wouldnt really matter for me anyway since there wont be a arcade release and they arent sure of a pc release :/ i still really want to play Juri though

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 3, 2009 at 10:14 p.m. #633

Lucy man u need to get a PS3 fast the price dropped alot so maybe u can get it soon or save up ur pennies lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 4, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. #634

my stick is for the xbox360 anyway :/ its ok, Arcade play is way better :)

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 4, 2009 at 5:21 p.m. #635

@ Shin arnoldo my bad for that my bro wanted to play other games instead of watch me play he bothers me alot lol next time ggs

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 4, 2009 at 10:32 p.m. #636

I wanted to do the solarplex punch into ch.lp , then cr. mp cr.mk then shoryuken or hurricane kick
But my probs are now coming from RYU players and Giefs lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 4, 2009 at 11:25 p.m. #637

Im pretty sure you cant link shoryu after those, i think tastu is ok though. Im have more trouble with good Ryu players too now

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 5, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #638

I like this 2x cr.lp light shoryuken fadc ultra

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 5, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. #639

I like this 2x cr.lp light shoryuken fadc ultra

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 5, 2009 at 1:59 p.m. #640

its better to use hp srk, since it deals more damage

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 5, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. #641

what are ryu's most damaging combos? and on the site they have alot of combos Akuma and Ken can do so its like RYu needs to be different

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 6, 2009 at 8:44 a.m. #642

@Cutty
646 damage = F+hp, c.hp, hp srk, super, ultra

but i believe there is another one that will deal more damage but it requires to meet certain condition but i have not tested it

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 6, 2009 at 9:55 a.m. #643

I do that often but the ultra hits like 2 times and goes through the person so idk I will try more pokes strings on people

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 6, 2009 at 11:45 a.m. #644

Btw I like the cr.mp more than the cr. mk because I hit confirm better and I still can cancel better into a shoryuken or hadoken any other success stories lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 6, 2009 at 2:02 p.m. #645

Ultra hits 3 times but i gives enough damage to make it to 646.

more poke strings will reduce the damage done.

i believe it is like this :

1st attack damage is at max
2nd is also at max
3rd is 80% of the damage
4th is 70% of the damage
5th is 60% of the damage

and so on, if you do ultra i think it is reduced by 20% but i could be wrong

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 6, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. #646

really u broke it down 4 me lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 6, 2009 at 4:10 p.m. #647

Yes ultra reduced by 20%

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 6, 2009 at 4:13 p.m. #648

Not to mention once the opponent's health are down by 50% there is another reduction on damage :(

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 6, 2009 at 11:19 p.m. #649

how can u guys figure all this stuff out? 10% 20% wow u guys are the pros and I'm the noob

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 7, 2009 at 8:19 a.m. #650

lol, no we are not pros, we are noob just like you :P
you can actually see on the training room or go to that shoryuken.com they have tons of info there.

played with MagmaFisher, his seth is deadly, now i know why seth is not allowed in some tournaments :D

combo is just like akuma's and easy to do too, no ex usage too, how awesome is that :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 7, 2009 at 10:26 a.m. #651

At shoryuken.com they have some topics that we don't discuss here so we need to go their lol but their meduim punch topic

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 7, 2009 at 10:25 p.m. #652

played shin arnoldo today and he really wiped me into shape for anything today lol I blew my focus dash cancel ultra but I can land my ex fireball for some reason need help

and I also seen myself jumping a whole lot IDK y tho? I think its focus what do ya'll think

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 8, 2009 at 8:58 a.m. #653

@cutty
lol, yeah i noticed you jumpin alot but the thing is it was laggier than usual, i can see the screen pausing for a few milisecond :P

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 8, 2009 at 9:22 a.m. #654

yea right why the hell was I so antsy I guess since i rushmore I have to contain my rushdown beast at times lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 8, 2009 at 7:17 p.m. #655

its prob because ur just being impatient.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on October 8, 2009 at 11:52 p.m. #656

Maybe spam fireballs when I looking for more of a reaction from my victims lol so I need to stay focus like I use to do it when I was a g2

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 10, 2009 at 11:38 a.m. #657

yea a lot of the time now i find myself not spamming fireballs properly :/

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 10, 2009 at 9:42 p.m. #658

i was thinking i should buy a fightstick? maybe it would bring my game to a new level

Posted by Violent Lucidity on October 11, 2009 at 10:29 a.m. #659

Ugh.

I hate that F+Fierce >> D+Fierce link. Hate it with a passion. So strict. 1 framers can bite my a$$.

Think I'll stick to F+Fierce >> D+Forward off a Focus attack from now on.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 11, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. #660

My friend let me borrow his fight stick I can link that F+Fierce D+forward dragon punch with ease it is strict timing and now I can pull it off easily.

I like the solar plex punch into cr.lp . cr. mp into dragon punch now its easy with the fight stick I may buy one its makes moves seem easier to do but the learning curve is high

I'm using the madcats tournement edition stick it great

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 11, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. #661

joysticks are essential. I dont think learning the joystick is difficult at all, i found learning the controller a pain in the ass lol. Besides man, they are so dam cheap now. At least the original TE is

Posted by Violent Lucidity on October 11, 2009 at 11:57 a.m. #662

Yeah, I have a TE stick myself. Had to put a bat top on it because the ball top made the stick too small for my huge hands to grab onto (lol, innuendo). It's also a bit too loose for my tastes, gonna tighten it up with an LS-32 spring, and shorten the engage with duct tape around the actuator. Not sure about the post-it-note slivers in the microswitches just yet, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Oh, and I still hate that Solar Plexus strike >> Cr.HP link. I don't think you can even plink it.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 11, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. #663

I have the te stick on the 360 but its my friends so I have to give it back soon lol but normally I play at home all the time and so I used the controller alot more but the transition is a little hard but looking forward to learning it

@ Violent Lucidity who's ur main character?

Posted by Violent Lucidity on October 11, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. #664

@cutty

I've been off and on for prolonged bouts of time, but I drift between Chun and Ryu, and I'm just starting to get into Viper. So, I really can't quite decide who to main. I guess it all depends on which one's execution I manage to get down first, and after that which one I like playing better. But all of that will likely go out the window as soon as Super hits the shelf.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 11, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. #665

@ violent I hear that I like Adon from alpha and guy also so I don't know man and they are characters that are rumored to be in the game so hopefully I can choose between them cuz I doubt I will stay with RYU lol

Posted by Violent Lucidity on October 12, 2009 at 11:26 a.m. #666

Indeed. There are too many shotos in this game already. I think I'll stick with Viper for now.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 12, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. #667

I don't like the new characters to the game for some reason but more and more i like guile now lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 12, 2009 at 12:30 p.m. #668

@Violent Lucidity
Are you talking about the sanwa ultimate mod?
Ive played Viper a while myself, and gotten decent at it, but the problem is shes so easy to deal with lol. Shes f*cking awesome anyway XD
Ive gotten into Akuma recently lmao.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 12, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. #669

and i'm still stuck with ryu :(, am i too ignorant or am i too loyal?

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 12, 2009 at 3:14 p.m. #670

I like Akuma and RYU so I guess I'm loyal to the point of no return lol but I wonder who will be the new character to choose from

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 13, 2009 at 1:13 a.m. #671

How long do we need to practice before we can go pro? we all here seem to be vwey dedicated to the game?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 13, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. #672

well ... depends on your definition of PRO

if its earning money by playing SF4 then you should practice hard so that you win tourney that has money reward

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 13, 2009 at 11:20 a.m. #673

yea I was leaning towards that version of pro

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 13, 2009 at 10:41 p.m. #674

i would have to say: practice hardcore (not with randoms onlines, but with high skill lvl players IRL), go to every tourny you can to see how you stack up, and have really deep knowledge of the game.

my main chars seem to be: Ryu, Viper, Akuma. I will definitely put some effort into Juri when the time comes :)

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 14, 2009 at 1:42 a.m. #675

I can see all of us making those steps in becoming a street fighter pro cuz we all love the game

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 14, 2009 at 3:39 p.m. #676

Well loving the game isnt enough to be a pro :P But good luck to all of us. I dont plan on going pro, i just wanna play at a high lvl

Posted by perro on October 14, 2009 at 7:20 p.m. #677

hollllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 14, 2009 at 11:27 p.m. #678

@ Lucy at a high level u would get into in a tourney or something? I remembered u winning one and playing online will get u so far in being known for having skill lol

Posted by BEST on October 15, 2009 at 3:15 p.m. #679

Lucy i read ur comment and u seem to be pretty good. gamertag is...................B3stoftheBest........come challenge me i want to know where u stand. I am a Ken user and tear up Ryu all day with my kens pokes. come if u dare.

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 15, 2009 at 3:35 p.m. #680

@Best
I hope you are referring to PC version cause that is the only console Lucy have. Go Lucy, make Ryu proud by making ken cry :P spam those counter pokes :D

Posted by Sanwa man on October 15, 2009 at 4:29 p.m. #681

ryus ex shoryuken is weaker than the normal one, you got the numbers wrong i think..

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 15, 2009 at 9:40 p.m. #682

@Best
Right if you play on PC. AND if you have 4+ connection with no lag.
After like 400+ kens on my Ryu account, i have 95+% win rate. So far i have 100% with my Akuma account... something like 50something/50something, FTW

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 15, 2009 at 11:50 p.m. #683

@ Best I think u must have the 360 version cuz I never seen u own the PSN account and if u play Ken what separate u from the rest? Spamming shoryukens or kara throwing

I main RYU and I highly doubt Ken can beat me lol

Posted by BEST on October 16, 2009 at 1:45 a.m. #684

LOL here comes the haters. I am just telling like it is, i beat ryu about 80% of the time. I have a console and its a 360. Im not hating on ryu, he is a top tier and all and one of the best character in the game, but i beat him most of the time. Call my bluff gamertag......B3stoftheBest.........i know that u are trying to defend Ryu and all but u would really have to be skilled to beat me. I dont use shoryukens that much cuz u pay the price if u miss and kara throwing kara haduken is kens game dont hate.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 16, 2009 at 8:20 a.m. #685

@ best I will see how u play then don't worry RYu and Ken always have friendly matches I will use my fight stick I got cuz I'm still learning it

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 16, 2009 at 12:26 p.m. #686

@Sanwa
Ex shoryuken deals less damage then HP shoryuken but when hit both it deals more damage then lp version, not sure about mp version.

@best
I don't like Ken since the beginning of SF :P but i'm a scrub and don't have xbox so you still can't beat me lol jk

Posted by newbie on October 16, 2009 at 2:57 p.m. #687

face it we are all scrubs, thats why we are at the strategy guide page lol durrrr

Posted by BEST on October 16, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. #688

i been playing sf ever since i was a kid. Grew up playing and ejoyed playing it. I always picked Ken cuz alot of people prefer ryu. Ken is my fav and best character. I can beat anyone on any given day. Dont get me wrong i do lose too but have a 72% win ratio on my sf4 for xbox. I have 35,5000 gp right now and going up. Ryu who wants to challenge come ill be waiting. CALL MY BLUFF COME AND SEE GAMERTAG..................B3stoftheBest............

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 16, 2009 at 6:33 p.m. #689

@ best ur a g1-c then thats cool but Ken is a character thats easier to beat then RYU u must play alot of Ryu's or something cuz u got balls coming to a RYu page challenging people keep it up and I'll add u on my x-box live account so I can check out ur vids u put up and see if ur worth playing don't be a bragger and suck thats all I'm saying

in order to have a 72% win ratio u must have been a ragequiter win it was ranked matches cuz the best still has their on the 60's percent and if ur g1-c somethings wrong?
X-box live gamertag: justbringit1987

Posted by BEST on October 16, 2009 at 11:53 p.m. #690

@ CUTTYB87 i never rage quit, just not something i do. I play with dignity and accepts a loss. Losing is going to make u better so if u rage quit ur only going to get weaker. I have a 72% cuz im a above areage player. Its understandable if u dont have urs that high but dont doubt mine. Ken is the best character in the game for me though and i love to play against ryu. Ryu has a advantage cuz of his juggleing ability but always happy to play a skilled ryu player. CALL MY BLUFF GAMERTAG.....................B3stoftheBest..........

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 17, 2009 at 1:11 a.m. #691

@ Ken I already sent u a friend request I won't have the game much longer on the 360 cuz I play on the PS3 I would like to c how good ur Ken is honestly

These are jokes dawg I c u online soon

Posted by BEST on October 17, 2009 at 2:38 a.m. #692

how do u upload ur fights?? just wondering cuz i want to upload them and put em online.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 17, 2009 at 6:25 a.m. #693

@BEST
too bad i wont be able to fight you, since your Ken sounds so damn good ;) maybe ill see you in a tourny someday.
Your vids are uploaded automatically when you get a new CP record.

Just wondering, how much BP do you have?

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 17, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. #694

The PS3 u upload ur vids once u get enough points but its only for ur friends to c them all and not for ur youtube account lol

Posted by BEST on October 17, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. #695

i have about 4,500 bp. I dont want to make it sound like my ken is hella great, but on the other my ken is very good. I have trouble playing a skilled sagat player cuz he does soo much damm damage. When i play a really skilled Ryu it always goes down to the wire, last round and 10% health left. I would play ryu as my main but some character just doesent suit me. I can play ryu like how i play ken, and i bet u cant play ken like ur ryu. I play on a controller for the 360 cuz i dont have a fight stick. I sure want to test out my skillz on the fight stick but in doing just fine on the controller. So to u guys how much different is the controller compare to a fight stick, give me the ups and downs cuz im doing great with the controller. Best out!!

Posted by Cuttyb87 on October 17, 2009 at 5:15 p.m. #696

@ best with the fight stick ur moves and Kara throws and even Kara hadokens are easier to do its better for ur execution and linking combos for the short time I had the fight stick I won alot of g3 championships even tho I'm a g1-c on the PS3 bu I was playing on the figh stick I can focus dash cancel easier..
I think its a better product than the joystick for real thats just me I was made to play at home so I would recommed it to anyone who wants to go pro

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 18, 2009 at 9:04 a.m. #697

too much hate for the main guy that people wanna beat ryu, ryu, ryu and ryu

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 18, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. #698

@ Shin he is the best what can I say lol

If akuma and atleat 100 points of more defense I would pick him more but for now its all about RYU even in stf3 RYU wasn't the best but I can hold my own with him against damn good Chun li's and Ken and even HUgo's

Its all about RYU and when Super Street Fighter comes out the world will see lol

Posted by ItzAce on October 19, 2009 at 2:15 p.m. #699

ryu is for scrubs like all the other shotos

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 19, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #700

How is RYu for scrubs he is technical like hell and if everyone claims he is easy to beat y do we ryu likers get hated on

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 19, 2009 at 4:38 p.m. #701

That means Daigo is a scrub too? and he is the world champ? lol the world got owned by a scrub.

I'm a happy scrub :D

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 19, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. #702

YEa I will join the clan of the scrubs

Posted by BEST on October 20, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. #703

Ryu is not a scrub. Some people might play him like a scrub but he is not. I smash on ryu easilty lol.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 20, 2009 at 10:21 a.m. #704

People text me messages calling me a ryu scrub I don't even know what a scrub is or even a noob lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 20, 2009 at 2 p.m. #705

I think people are comparing us Daigo in terms f gameplay or something lol if they are we scrubs lol

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 22, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. #706

Superb combo that work against sagat while he is standing, can be done anywhere on the screen

no ex meter for 368 damage :
jump hp/hk, c.mp, c.mp, c.hp, hk tatsu

against chun li with no ex meter for 367 damage :
f+hp, c.mp, c.mp, c.mk, hk tatsu

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 23, 2009 at 10:16 p.m. #707

@ Shin how do u figure all this stuff out?

and if the Sagat in the corner the ex tats and then ultra would be sweet but damage scaling would hurt alot tho

Posted by Figure on October 24, 2009 at 10:04 p.m. #708

Go in to training mode turn the attack data on then set the opponent to auto block so you will know if your attacks will combo

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 24, 2009 at 10:39 p.m. #709

yes, if in the corner you can do ex tatsu and ultra but i don't think its worth it unless you kill sagat but the thing is ex tatsu will not hit all :P and it is only if you want to save meter or don't have meter :P

Posted by ryu apprentice on October 25, 2009 at 12:57 a.m. #710

Ryu is not about power,nor about being easy, to me he is all about being calm in the heat of battle and picking your moves wisely, he can turn matches around in a blink of an eye, so if you have a calm spirit and a clear head then u can dominate and beat even the toughest opponent. That why I use ryu, ken is just too reckless for me and akuma fights like a demon and we all know that demons fight with no brains. So that's why ryu will always be above the rest. Oh well I guess the answer lies in the heart of battle.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 25, 2009 at 6:32 p.m. #711

Hey guys anyone miss me? :P

my akuma is improving, and along with that my Ryu's execution as well. I dont know why, but i picked up Diablo 2 again = ="
I find online play more and more boring... the arcades are still where its at XD

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 25, 2009 at 9:58 p.m. #712

:( i'm still stuck with ryu, i don't feel like learning others, i barely can play ryu i don't think i should learn others deeply :D

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 26, 2009 at 4:08 p.m. #713

I only like to play Ryu against above avg lvl players, otherswise to f*** with people's minds with akuma is much more fun, and challenging lol

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 26, 2009 at 8:49 p.m. #714

man I wish Akuma had more defense than he does or I hope RYU gets a new move or have a different ultra

But RYU is the man and I did Play Akuma and Shin Made me go back cuz he wore me out lol

Who do u guys want in the update?

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 27, 2009 at 8:14 a.m. #715

Ryu of course LOL

just came out 3rd on 2 tourneys ago and 2nd on last sunday :( by luck gyahahhhaaaaa

Posted by ryu apprentice on October 27, 2009 at 11:14 a.m. #716

Akuma has low defense and hi attack good for aggressive players,if you can string combos you can beat anyone with akuma. Ryu is still my major because since playing 8bit games, to 16bit to playstation to playstation 2 to arcade, I have always stuck with ryu and zangief. Ryu is just natural to me as jago is to killer instinct.

Posted by cuttyb87 on October 27, 2009 at 3:01 p.m. #717

@ Ryu apprentce what system do u play on

@ Shin when do u play in this tournaments?

Posted by BEST on October 28, 2009 at 12:18 a.m. #718

Hey guys. Well as u all know i am a very good Ken user. I started to use ryu in g1 and i notice how good i was doing. Ryu is very good at zoning against people. I pretty much use kens rush down to win but i play Ryu differently. I still main Ken and still dominant with 47,000 gp on g1. Trying to learn how to beat diff characters with ryu cuz i know how to beat everyone with ken already. Anyone want to spar hit me up.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 28, 2009 at 2:18 a.m. #719

i still lol @ BEST

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on October 28, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. #720

shoot :( i'm still a scrub using Ryu :(

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 28, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. #721

meh, Ryu ownzor lol

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on October 29, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. #722

@cuttyb87

am still waiting for my game to hit shore, I have ordered a PC version of it. But I just warm up with third strike. sounds like you wanna take me on. what system do you play on so I can make plans.

I wonder what kind of ultra they will give to Ryu if they decide to change it in SSF4,I really loved the shin shoryuken but that is already given to gouken, maybe they'll give him the denji hadoken, and why wont they give ken his kazyruu reppa (street fighter ex 2 plus) I really loved the move. and if you ask me akuma doesnt need two shun goku satsu moves, maybe the massatsu gou shoryuu will suit in more or even the messatsu gou hadou.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on October 29, 2009 at 12:31 p.m. #723

@ Ryu apprentice I have the game on the ps3 and I like Ryu Denjin Hadoken and I never seen Ken Kazyruu reppa is it on youtube?

And I hope RYU can have the shin shoryuken or the metsu shoryuken from the Alpha series

and if they give him his tasmuki super I hope its fast and has quick recovery on the move.

I want Ryu to be like the RYu from snkvscapcom 2 with his hop kick and his elbow dash

But I like stf3 but Ryu is really hard to play on that game tho lol but I'll get better

Posted by imma scrub on October 29, 2009 at 3:37 p.m. #724

everyone here is a scrub, that's why u are on the ryu strategy guide page. i mean who neads who needs a strategy guide for ryu, pretty sad if u ask me

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on October 30, 2009 at 12:46 a.m. #725

@Ryu Apprentice

I play PC and would love to spar with you anytime once you receive your game (finally found a pc version user!)

@Imma scrub
i understand that you are a scrub and just want to make scrub comments. I will clearify for you: we dont really look at this strategy guide anymore, we just use this page in a forum like manner (mainly just a few of us) and dicuss stuff about Ryu

Posted by Imma scrub too on October 31, 2009 at 1:40 p.m. #726

There's nothing more to say about Ryu, just spam shoryuken cancel ultra and be happy

Posted by ryu apprentice on October 31, 2009 at 11:26 p.m. #727

@cuttyb87

Ryu isn't so hard to play, in fact I think I have the fastest reaction time with him, love his sliding kick and his options for anti air. His combos are short and deal massive stun damage, as for ken the move is kuzuryu reppa (sorry for the error before) the move is similar to his ultra in SF4, its a combination of half shinpuu jinrai kyaku,two shoryukens, first haf of shoryuu reppa then shinryuu ken (30 hits if you tap the kick button rapidly enough)
Will post a link if I find one.

@lady

Will be glad to spar with you, will let you know when I am set.

Posted by ryu apprentice on October 31, 2009 at 11:49 p.m. #728

@imascrub too

Spamming shoryuken into ultra works only on rookies, I used to be a scrub and I got thrashed I had to adjust, from the looks of it you are not even a rookie. Good luck, I'll advice you get better by playing ppl better than you, trust me you'll quit scrubbing

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 1, 2009 at 2:23 a.m. #729

well, spam shoryukens for frame traps does work really well though.

Since when am i called "lady"?

Posted by ryu apprentice on November 1, 2009 at 8:31 a.m. #730

Sorry lucy, I mean no disrespect

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 1, 2009 at 11:40 p.m. #731

Wow wtf about the hate we play ryu differently I like zone and rush but I will work on my anti air game my footsie game has gotten a lot better and hopefully I will go to evo

Posted by Megatonbeef on November 2, 2009 at 1:44 a.m. #732

I want Ryu to gain the sliding kick (Joudan Sokutou Geri) He had in 3s. It was an amazing punish move and the ex version wall bounced for easy set ups. If they really do plan to improve all the characters Ryu deserves this move back.

Posted by Ryu Apprentice on November 3, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. #733

@megatonbeef

I agree with you. he really needs that move. but even without it he can skill do well.

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 3, 2009 at 12:50 p.m. #734

I want his hop kick back it was cook for pressuring ur opponents and it can be a guard break for those focus attacks but the sliding kick belongs to Gouken tho right?

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 3, 2009 at 6:35 p.m. #735

hey, to raise some discussion again, do you guys know of any option select for Ryu? It is new to me and i have yet to learn them. If you guys know some that work on certain chars, plz share ^^

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 4, 2009 at 8:46 a.m. #736

Capcom wants to give the rest of the cast more tools for countering Dragon Punch/Tiger Uppercut attacks. :( i'm so sad :(

regarding option select, the one with lp srk works against bison. it will hit against ex headstomp and yes you can follow up with ultra.
it will trade with psycho crusher or ex, not sure about scissors kick though

it will also beat ken's ultra i believe

another one is against rufus, you will lose to ex messiah but damage done to you is like only 10 damage or something since you fall and his ex only hit once.

using tatsu will beat akuma's back teleport
using ex tatsu will beat viper's ex that ground hitting thing

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 4, 2009 at 12:11 p.m. #737

@ lucy what the hizzle is options select as far as moves or what

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 4, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. #738

@Shin Arnoldo
seems like you understand a fair amount... mind teaching how to do option selects? Too lazy to look into the SRK forums...

@Cutty
Option select is when you input multiple actions in a situation and allows the game system to select the best option available to you depending on your opponents reaction. Therefore, you wont be doing as much guessing and the outcome would probably be in your favor if your option select worked. Its a very advanced and useful tool against certain matchups.

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 4, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. #739

well i did look in SRK forums and found this video to clear up what is option select and what it does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdNDX...

check it out!

Posted by Shin_Arnoldo on November 5, 2009 at 10:55 a.m. #740

I just know about it but i never really uses it

Posted by Cuttyb87 on November 5, 2009 at 11:08 a.m. #741

I didn't know about it but I use it sometimes for the chip damage win lol

Posted by Lucy.ElfenLied on November 5, 2009 at 7:15 p.m. #742

Well i tried it against this decent bison yesterday, and it work because he actuallt did try to ex devils reverse away, so i caught him with a light shoryu and ofcourse METSU!!! lol but im still playing around with it to get familiar with it.

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 6, 2009 at 1:01 p.m. #743

Their is a picture on iplaywinner.com and shoryuken.com where ryu is doing the shin shoryuken the greatest ultra ever and it might be the metsu shoryuken but who Knows

But the Denjin Hadoukken is still my super art in stf3 but Could it work in stf4?

Posted by cuttyb87 on November 7, 2009 at 2:19 a.m. #744

@Lucy I remember when u said that the arcade is where its at... ad u couldn't been more right lol I suck with the fight sticks but man I seen some players taht were awesome it made me want to step up my sparring sessions up to the highest and try to dominate all who opposes me

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